REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 982 Qaf Feeling Behind Regaining Control In Chaos Outgrowing Your Inner Circle

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

On today's episode, Andy answers your questions on how to deal with feeling behind when you lack clear goals, how to regain control during chaos in a growing business, and how to recognize personal gr...owth when others don't support the new you.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Keeping on the floor. Now my jury box, O' count it millions and a-oh, got a on. What is up, guys? It's Andy Fersela. This is the show for the realists. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society
Starting point is 00:00:23 and welcome to motherfucking reality. Guys, today we have Q&AF. That's where you submit the questions and we give you the answers. Now, you can submit your questions a few different ways. DJ, how can they do that? Yeah, guys, you can email these questions
Starting point is 00:00:36 in to ask Andy at Andyfercella.com. You can also submit your questions through the link in the description below or drop them in the comment section of the Q&AF episodes on the new Andy for Seller Motivation YouTube channel. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I think we'll just skip the 75 hard, all right?
Starting point is 00:00:55 Because everybody's going to be starting it this week. Yeah, they are. All right, there is a massive group, a massive group of people starting 75 hard this week. So I'll give you the resources. What is cut to the chase? You know we do shows within the show. If you're unfamiliar with 75 hard,
Starting point is 00:01:11 you get the entire program outline for free at episode 208 on the audio feed if you're unfamiliar with 75 hard it is the initial phase of the live hard program which is the world's most famous mental transformation program ever clearly i need it all right uh again it's free episode 208 on the audio feed there is a book available the book is called the book on mental toughness you can get it andyfercellar dot com i'd highly recommend it you don't don't need it. But the main thing I want to let you know is that there is a massive group starting on the first, not the second, not the fourth, not the seventh. We're going to start this year. We're going to start it right. I'm doing it with you. We're going to get after it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 All right. So with that being said, we do have a fee for the show. The fee is very simple. Don't be a ho. Share the show. All right. What's happening? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Beautiful Monday morning. Yep. Mm-hmm. Are you lying again? Yep. Yeah. It's Sunday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It is Sunday. Sunday, though. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's good, man. How's it going? Good. Just got done training. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yep. Yeah. Looking all handsome. Yeah, you do. That's right. What's going on with you? Oh, nothing much, man. You know, I had to steal one of your vans.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You did? Mm-hmm. You steak the bike, too? No, no. The bikes still there. So we move from bikes to vans. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:44 What van? I have a van? The gray one, yeah. What? The gray sprinter van. Yeah, you got like two of them. The gray. Back there.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Oh, the weed van. Oh, yeah. Dude, I'll be, I just feel like I was. That's the weed transport van. It used to be. I think. Yeah, I think we upgraded. I think we upgraded.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah. But no, I, dude, I did feel like, like I was doing some nefarious shit with it, though. You know what you used it for? Trash. Just moving trash. Yeah. I got big bags of trash. So you just trashed out the inside of our van, huh?
Starting point is 00:03:14 No, no, no. Listen, clean the sweat. I know the standard. Oh, yeah? Yeah, we got the standards here. How's that house coming along? You know, it's actually, we're about 92% done. 92.
Starting point is 00:03:25 92% done. There's still some talent. So that means that 8% will not be ever done. Probably. Probably. My little contract, dude, shout out to my contract. Awesome dude. I've had a lot of really awesome people help me out with this.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But he told me, like, we were going through, he's like, man, listen, if you don't do this right now, you're never fucking doing it again. Like, don't lie to yourself either. You're going to do it right now or you're not fucking doing it. Yeah. I'm like, all right, we're fucking do it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:50 But no, it's going good, though, man. It's going good. House looks great, you know. What did you learn? Never do this shit again. That's right. That's what I learned. That's what I'm, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Listen, I'm done. I know. Everybody's like, oh, dude, why don't you build something or do this? I'm never building the motherfucking thing again in my entire life. That garage wore me out. That was, I got PTSD. D bro. No,
Starting point is 00:04:12 never happening. I'm moving in. That was like a three year project, wasn't it? Yeah. And three times as much as it was supposed to be. Three times as long as it was supposed to be. Well, dude, the problem in my house,
Starting point is 00:04:23 dude, it's like my house is built in 1970. And so like every time I fucking peeled something back. Found like a body. Thousands of dollars right there. Like just, just dumping. Coming out of the walls.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Bro. Like, I wish. Shit, I wish. Yeah. No, I'm putting this shit into the wall.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. That's a problem, man. It's, you know, it's a learning experience though. You know? And it's been good. It's been good.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. But yeah, never again. I'm glad it wasn't me. I'll die in that house. No, you won't. Like, I'm done, bro. The whole thing is you just got to move into other people's masterpieces. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You know, let them deal with the stress. That's right. Yeah. Well, I mean, dude, whoever buys my house next is going to be pretty happy. Yeah, I'm never doing it. You know, fucking never. Never. Never.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Never happening again. Oh, man. Yeah. But, yeah, beautiful day. That's, uh. Bro, when shit starts to get built now, I just fucking leave. He's just looking to look at it. He's out.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. Yeah, no, it's good though, man. Beautiful day. Got a 70 degrees outside. Yeah, 29 tomorrow. Dude. What? Fuck this place, man.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I'm with you, bro. I'm so sick of this. 70 today. 29 tomorrow. That's insane. Like, I don't even understand how that works. Yeah. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:05:35 But, you know, that's a great day. That's our punishment for being domestic terrorists. I'm going to say, what do we do? It's our punishment for. for speaking against Israel. Just like they say. Oh, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Well, yeah, dude. Let's make some people better today. Let's do it. It's a beautiful Monday. Enough messing around. Let's get down to business. Oh, yeah, we do have a live show tonight. Thank you, Matt.
Starting point is 00:05:59 7 p.m. Central. Yeah. CTI Live. A lot of current events. That's right. Yeah. And there's a lot of events that are current. Bro.
Starting point is 00:06:11 With us having off last week, man, a lot of shit happened. Maybe that was a bad call. Yeah, no more breaks, guys. Fuck to you guys. Shit. Yeah, no, there is a lot, man. But yeah, check us out tonight, guys, 7 p.m. Central on the tube and Twitter. But, yeah, let's make some people better.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I got three good ones for you. All right. I know you do. Guys, Andy, question number one. Andy, I'm 27. I see people my age already married, buying houses or starting businesses. and I feel like I missed some memo. I'm not lazy.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I show up to work, but I don't feel like I'm building anything. How do you figure out what direction to move when you don't even know what you want? I feel like I'm just behind this ball. Needho. Well, I mean, I'll tell you this. If you think showing up for work
Starting point is 00:06:59 is doing fucking something special, then you're definitely behind the ball. Okay, so let's get real about that. You're supposed to show up for work. You're supposed to show up on time. you're supposed to do a good job. These are the things of a functioning adult. That's a bare minimum.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah. Like so, yeah, you are behind, bro. Real talk. Now, I'm not saying you're behind
Starting point is 00:07:21 because you're not making any money because I'll tell you what, when I was 27 years old, I moved back in with my dad because I was so broke. All right? So that's not what I'm talking about. But what I am talking about
Starting point is 00:07:30 is that your standard is fucking bullshit. All right? And I can tell by the way that you wrote the question, oh, I show up to work. What the fuck are you talking about, bro? that's the, like, what can you expect if that's your standard, right?
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'm doing it. Yeah. You're not really doing it. You think showing up's a win. All right. So you got to understand. Winning isn't for everybody. Kicking ass is not for everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Building a great life is not for everybody. And it sure as fuck isn't for the people that just quote unquote show up for work. All right. So if you actually want something and you actually want to be better, you're going to have to understand those standards have to raise. Now, you may not know what you want to do, but have you actually thought about it? Have you actually sat down and planned it out? Have you actually sat down and said, hey, this would be cool for me to do?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Have you sat down and said, you know, if I could do anything, this is what I would do because I would be happy and it would provide enough income for myself and the way I want to live. Have you thought about those things? Because those are the things that people don't think about. And then they act surprised when nothing materializes. up in their, you know, 40s and they're like, what happened? Okay, well, here's what happened. Time went by and time is going by right now and you're still at a massive advantage
Starting point is 00:08:49 because you're 27 years old. But if you keep fucking around and thinking that your standard is, I'm going to show up for work and things are just going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's never going to happen. So you have to come to that understanding and understand that, yeah, you may think that's not fair. You may think that that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:07 And by the way, it is fucking fair. It's totally fair. All right. We got all these people crying about how unfair shit is. Well, the motherfuckers that you look up to who have built things that you want to be like and those people did a lot of shit you didn't do. And they got the fair return on that investment. You're getting the return on your investment. So this whole idea of what's fair and what's not fair is fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Okay. For the last 27 years, bro, I haven't done anything but build my shit. All right. What have you done, sir, for 27 years? I bet you drank water. You fucking took shits. You ate food and you slept. And those are probably the only things that you could say you've done for 27 years straight.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I've done this for 27 years. That's why my life looks the way that it does. And that's why people who haven't done that, their life looks the way that it does. And I'm not saying that everybody wants to do what I do, but whatever level of success or whatever level of success that you're after, you're going to have to realize that it's going to take a lot more than, you know, just existing and breathing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So, you know, this whole idea, and unfortunately, dude, you grew up in a time where people were told that everything was supposed to be equal and everything was supposed, you were special for being born and you get a trophy for showing the fuck up. No, you don't. That's all bullshit. That's all lies.
Starting point is 00:10:32 That's all been propaganda to train in. entire generation and not do anything so that they can be miserable, angry, mad at the rich people, so they're easy to control and get them to buy into like communism. All right. So I commend you for not thinking that way, but you're going to have to adjust your thinking in terms of what it is that you're willing to do to get what you want. Because I'm going to tell you right now, dude, a passive attitude or even an average attitude isn't going to get it.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It's going to have to be hard. It's going to be the hardest thing you ever fucking did. you're going to have to force it into reality. And I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions that people have about success is that they think that like, you know, if you just show the fuck up and, you know, you try a little bit that things will materialize. Bro, we're talking about the national championship here. We're talking about the Super Bowl here.
Starting point is 00:11:25 We're talking about the most ruthless competition that you could ever compete in, which is business and life. And it takes that level of commitment and that level of effort to get to that point. And if you're not willing to give it, you can't be mad about where you're where you're at. Now, I'm saying all this because you're 27 years old and you still have a chance to fix it. But when you're in your 50s and there's lots of people to figure out this when they're in their 50s, you're kind of fucked, okay, because you don't have the relationships built. You don't have the connections built. You don't have the ability to, you know, earn the way that you would when
Starting point is 00:12:05 you're younger. So. Oh, but 80. Colonel Sanders were, yeah, that's true. That's true. That's an anomaly. All right. And there's lots of people. Here's the good thing. The way technology is now, there's lots of opportunity for older people to change things very quickly. But it's still more difficult for them than it is for people who are 27 or 20 or 25. And this whole idea of like fucking off your 20s until you figure out what you want to do, dude, you just wasted a valuable decade to put into your foundation of what you're going to have for your whole life. So this whole idea of these people saying, oh, your 20s are for fun and this and that and this
Starting point is 00:12:43 and that. And do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. You know, yeah, okay. But there's a price that you're trading for that. And people don't realize that. That's 10 years where someone else who's the same age as you, who's the same ability as you that dedicated that 10 years is going to be 10 years ahead. Man, they might even be dumber than you.
Starting point is 00:13:02 They might have less skills than you. They're still going to be 10 years ahead. So this whole idea of young people taking it easy and just going with the flow, it's a bad idea for people that want to achieve things. It just is. And not only is it a bad idea because of the time you waste, it's a bad idea because of the habits you build. All right?
Starting point is 00:13:23 You build this habit of like, you know, leisurely existence. And that becomes very hard to change as you get older. Now can you change it for sure? I would highly recommend, you know, the Live Hard program because that helps keep these things in check. But, you know, ultimately, dude, you've got to sit down. You've got to think about where you want to be. You've got to say, hey, this is what I would like my life to look like. This is my ideal job.
Starting point is 00:13:49 This is what I, and you can't think, oh, well, I could never do that. You've just got to start building it. And the one thing that, you know, I think young people lack perspective on is that, you know, know, these people that you look up to and they have this life that you want, those people are not any different than you do. They just execute different. They do things. They understand about setting a goal out here in the future and then backtracking it into daily actions that you execute against to get to that point. It's no different than going from here to Los Angeles, bro. Like, yeah, that's a long walk. But if you never start walking, you're never going to get there. And if you
Starting point is 00:14:27 do start walking, you will get there. And that's reality. So, you know, Most people spend more time planning vacations or weekends or their trips or this or that. Then they spend deciding what it is they want for their whole lives. And then they get upset that they don't get it. I mean, it doesn't, it's not confusing to me, you know, so I don't understand why it's confusing to everybody else. But my advice to you would be to take a fucking day, sit down, outline what it is you want to do. Ideally, not like what you think you can do based upon your skill set now because you could develop all the skills to do these things. make a plan, say this is what I want.
Starting point is 00:15:03 This is the kind of money I want to earn. This is what I want to do. And then I would start working towards that plan. That's what the operator standard does. The operator standard does this literally for you, plus a whole bunch of other shit. But it's not open right now, so you can't get in. But that's the gist, man.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And it's very, very simple. But people just don't take the time to do it. Dude, the idea of just showing up that, like, when you were talking about it made me think of like, imagine had Tom Brady just showed up to the Super Bowl. Like he would have gotten his ass beat. Bro, I don't know what that is. Like, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I know. I'm Tom Brady. I mean, one of the biggest pet piece for me is when people say things like, I do what I'm supposed to do. I show up. I work hard. Bro, that's the fucking minimum. That is the minimum.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's the minimum. Working hard is the minimum. Okay. You've also have to develop. skills. You also have to develop grit and perseverance to execute when you don't feel like it because guess what? Most of the time you're not going to feel like it. So there's all kinds of things that come into play here. But I can tell you this, it certainly isn't easy. And you're certainly not going to get where you want to go thinking that you're winning every day by showing up and working hard.
Starting point is 00:16:18 That's not enough. It's just not. There's no trophies. Yeah. And the price you're going to pay for not doing it is going to be much worse than the discomfort that you're going to pay now by doing it. All right, because you don't want to be the guy who's 47 years old having to get a second job at fucking Taco Bell because you didn't take your life serious. All right. And unfortunately, a lot of people end up that way and you don't want to do that. So. Don't. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I just think it's like I say this a lot, but there's a drastic misunderstanding that happens with people of what they think success takes and. what it actually takes. And with most people, it's a fucking 10,000 miles away. You know what I'm saying? It's, I don't know who told them this, but they believe,
Starting point is 00:17:13 they literally believe that if they go to work, do what they're told and execute their job, someone's going to come to them and say, hey, here's this new thing. Here's this new paycheck. Here's this new opportunity.
Starting point is 00:17:25 When in reality, dude, nobody opens the door to opportunities. They don't open. You have to kick them the fuck down. You have to take the opportunity. They're not given. They're not granted. They're not, you know, hey, welcome to the club.
Starting point is 00:17:36 The door actually slams in your fucking face over and over and over again. And it comes down to your willingness to kick the motherfucker down that determines how far you're going to go. Okay. So it has to be by force. And anybody who tells you different doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. And I bet you anybody that tells you different, they say, oh, you could just manifest these doors open. And you blah, blah, blah, blah. I guarantee you they are either broke or they make all their money spewereens.
Starting point is 00:18:02 doing that bullshit. Yeah. They haven't actually built things. So, you know, you guys got to get your minds right, bro, and what it takes and,
Starting point is 00:18:10 uh, accept the price up front. You know, when, when, you know, people complain about the process and how hard it is, most of the pain that comes from it is that you're constantly
Starting point is 00:18:23 arguing with yourself if the price is worth it. Yeah. Okay. You're like, oh, dude, is it done yet? Am I there yet? Am I going?
Starting point is 00:18:32 going, like, how's it going? Can I stop working yet? And you've got to reframe that to like, hey, motherfucker, I'm never going to fucking stop. Nothing's ever going to stop me. You could build a fucking bank vault in front of me. I'm going to kick that fucker in and I'm going to make it happen. And that's the attitude you got to have. It's got to be the complete opposite of, man, am I there yet to, I don't care what the
Starting point is 00:18:49 fuck it takes. I, and real talk, I don't care what it takes. I do not fucking care. I don't care who stands in front of me. I don't care who slams the door because I know that that door is coming open, even if they don't know it yet. So, and that's the attitude you have to have. If you don't have that attitude, you're not going to get very far.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Oh, man. So I love it, dude. I love it. Let's go. Guys, Andy, question number two. Andy, my service-based business is finally making some money. There you go. But cash flow is a mess.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Okay. I'm constantly moving money around, paying things late, stressing about payroll. From the outside, it looks successful. But how do you actually regain control once things are already chaotic? Well, you got to sit down and fucking break it, break it down. And by the way, let me start with this. Almost all businesses run that way, at least for a period of time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like, there's no business that you just turn on and it's just flush with cash and you can just do everything you want. You know, part of growing a business is the dance that you have to do with cash flow to allocate it where it needs to be to the most important part that affects you now. and paying late sometimes or, you know, being stressed or having to move money around, that's just called entrepreneurship, dude. And welcome to the club. Yeah. You don't want to make habits of those things, but let's be real, dude. Every business that starts off starts in the same position.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So the reason I say all this is because I want you to feel like it's just you. That's every business, okay? Dude, secondly, the best thing that you could do is to get like a really good. bookkeeper, someone that is very familiar with cash flow and how to allocate it and where it needs to go. You don't got to get a CPA yet or a CFO, but a very strong bookkeeper that can help you manage the cash coming in. And that is an investment that will pay for itself exponentially that you can make now, even when cash is tight because it's not that expensive, that will make a huge difference. Another thing you can do is you could just teach yourself how to do it. You
Starting point is 00:21:02 know, we didn't have complicated accounting or bookkeeping for a very long time. And Chris and I just did it on Excel. So, I mean, there's no right or wrong way to do it. But now we live in this age where there's all this great software. There's all these great technologies. There's very smart people. And you have to lean into that because these are skills that you don't have yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah. On this part about being chaotic, right, in entrepreneurship and the business. business, when things are, you know, quote unquote, shit hitting the fan, right? How do you manage what fires? Is it simply off of what's the biggest fire or like, hey, this fire, if I don't dress this small one now, it's going to get, like, how do you do that? Listen, chaos is entrepreneurship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:47 There is, it's not when, when does it get chaotic? It's chaotic. It's a shit show all the time. There's no real entrepreneur. I don't care if they're selling, you know, sea shells or, Jeff Bezos, where their shit isn't chaotic. The seven of the shores, yeah, right? It's a chaotic choice of profession by nature.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And it takes someone who is either very good at handling chaos or someone who can acclimate to handling chaos to do it. And, you know, the first few years you do it, it's going to stress you the fuck out. But just like anything, we talk about performance acclamation, once you start to live in that, becomes just normal and you don't get like freaked out or stressed out and I know that's hard to I know that's hard to imagine now but you start to get to a point where you're like okay this is just the way it is and when you address these fires to your question you have to be good at trying to figure out where the priorities are in the heat of the moment okay it's no different
Starting point is 00:22:59 something like you're in a battle, okay, and you're running a, you're running a platoon, okay? And we have this plan. And the plan is we're going to sneak up the mountain and we're going to do this shit. But we get halfway up the mountain and we find out they already thought of that, all right? And they're kicking our ass. Well, then we got to make a fucking move and we got to pull everybody back. We've got to go around the other side. And this is, it's like a, it's like conducting an orchestra.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Okay. And there's always a section that's not right. And you have to be able to identify that, address those things big and small. Okay. And at first, when you start off, you're going to only see the big fires. Okay. I feel like that's where people would want to focus on. You're only going to see it because you don't have the perspective to know that the small fires turn into the big ones.
Starting point is 00:23:46 So when you first start, you're going to see the big fires pop up. And you're going to be like, all right. Yeah. Holy shit. I got to address that. Okay. But what happens is as you gain the skill set. of just experience of running a company,
Starting point is 00:24:01 you start to identify the little fires when they're first starting, okay? And that just comes with experience. You know, you get to a point where little remarks that happen from your employees, you already know where that can go, right? Like an employee says something that doesn't sound right, and you're like, okay, well, last time I heard this,
Starting point is 00:24:25 this turned into a big fucking ordeal. Let me go address this. now. Correct. So you start to like identify these things quicker and more accurately as you go. That's a normal process. So that's there's not there's nothing that can teach you that. You just have to go. And that's I think a big thing about entrepreneurship that people don't understand is like there is no set rule book. Yes, there's there's there's common practices that are good ideas. Right. Like don't spend more money than you fucking have. Right. Right. Uh, right. Uh, But outside of these, you know, generally accepted practices, it's like anything, dude, you know, anybody listening that's ever had a job. Did you learn your job before you started or did you learn it after, right? Did you learn, you know, you went through training and all these things? Did you learn more actually on the job or did you learn more in training?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Every fucking person in the world, every job in the world, doesn't matter if you're a fucking doctor. it doesn't matter how specialized your profession is, you really can't learn it until you're doing it. And this is the same with entrepreneurship. People think that they can get certified or, you know, have a great mentor and they're going to, you know, gather all this knowledge. But dude, information doesn't equal results. Execution equals results. So you can sit there and be the smartest theoretical, quote unquote, information-filled entrepreneur. But if you never go, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And it doesn't create anything. And, you know, we see a lot of this online, right? Like how many of these people are giving entrepreneurship advice when their whole business is giving advice? They've never actually proven themselves to build anything, all right? So a lot of things sound good. But the reality is you're never going to develop the skills until you go. And that's something that people greatly misunderstand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I want to ask you this, too, on the fires, right? We're on this topic. Do you notice too that like, you know, some of the fires that you thought were these massive fucking wildfires happening, you know, 20 years ago? Or nothing now. They're nothing now. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, like, what changes? Is it, is that?
Starting point is 00:26:37 That's just acclamation, dude. Yeah. And, by the way, increased skill set. Okay. Like, when you've seen something happened three or four times over your career, you start to recognize not just how to prevent it, but. but also how to solve it immediately. Okay? So like this big fire, the first time it happens,
Starting point is 00:26:58 you know, usually people's big fire and entrepreneurship comes from owen taxes, all right? Almost everybody goes through a thing where they get this letter in the mail and it's this absurd amount of, and they're like, fuck! And it sucks, okay? But what happens?
Starting point is 00:27:12 You address it the first time, then maybe it happens a little bit again. And then you start to, you know, understand how to keep that from happening. Yeah. You realize it's not that big of a problem. Well, yes, you gain the confidence in your own skill set and ability to solve the problem. And when you know how to solve the problem, the anxiety doesn't exist anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Like the problems that really cause you stress as a seasoned entrepreneur are the ones that you just don't know the answer to. Like when we have a problem in any of the companies and it's something that's happened before, it's very easy to. walk in, talk to Sal or Jason or Chris and say, hey, we fucking saw this. We got to do this. And they already know, right? But and by the way, as your company matures and you get better leaders, the leaders will know that ahead of time. And you will stop seeing those things, which can be good and bad sometimes depending
Starting point is 00:28:08 on who you have. But at the end of the day, man, you know, as your skills grow, as you become more seasoned, these things that pop up and happen to you become no different than your shoe got untied. You know how to tie your shoe? Yeah, okay? It's not a fucking big deal. You're out doing something.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Your shoe gets untied. You're like, fuck, all right? Tie it. Yeah. Right? It's that. So, but it's hard to understand that when you're at the beginning. You don't have that perspective.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, it's very hard. Is it funny too? Like, do you have, like, I guess when you started having employees and started putting the managers, right? And they come to you with fucking problems. that you've already seen before it handled. Like, I imagine that kind of be like a little fun. Like, dude, you're freaking out for nothing.
Starting point is 00:28:51 No, that's not what you do. No? No, not at all. You let them freak out. Okay? And then you say, you say, well, how do you think we should solve it? And they'll say, you know, either the right way or they'll say the wrong way. If they say the right way, you say, that's, I think that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Go try that. You don't say, hey, I fucking know that's the right idea. Yeah, right. Okay. Because then you remove the. teaching moment from the situation. A bad leader, a leader that will never be able to scale will always solve those problems. And then here's what happens. Your leaderships never develop, your leaders never develop into actual leaders because they know that you'll solve the fucking
Starting point is 00:29:31 problem no matter what. So you have to be able to look at them and say, all right, well, what do you think you should do? And by the way, if they say the wrong thing, you would say something like this. I don't know, man. What about this? And you would make a suggestion. And then they'll be like, I don't know, you know. And I say, okay, well, what about this? And you kind of coach them in to finding the right path.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah. And then you let them go execute. And then they learn and then they gain the confidence. And then they become a better leader. And then next time that problem shows up, they know how to handle it. Okay. But poor leaders will just solve the problem. And then your employees will learn that you'll just solve the problem.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So they'll never develop. This is a big problem. And people who run like a, you know, let's say a three or four man operation and they scale to like a 40 or 100, because you can't keep up with that. It's impossible. Yeah. So you have to learn. It's not about delegating as it is about having a teaching moment so that then they can just handle it on their own. If you delegate shit to people that don't know what the fuck they're doing, they'll fuck your business up.
Starting point is 00:30:39 All right. Yeah, but I said they got to be a hard position for an entrepreneur to be in. right because you're supposed to be solving your fucking problems right so it's like that's got to be a hard hard thing to be like okay no you go you know what I'm saying like like that's got to be difficult well and there's levels to problems too right like let's say there's a five alarm fire and you don't have time to fuck around then you move motherfuckies do that exactly right right and then then there's an important part to that too okay you bring them with you all right hey look we're gonna fucking solve this right now you go solve it and then after you solve it you solve it you
Starting point is 00:31:13 you turn around, you say, okay, what did I do? You did this and this and this? Why did I do that? Because of this and this and this. And you still turn it into a moment where they can learn from your actions. But that's never as good as letting them come up with the answer on their own. I love it, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I love it, man. I love it. Guys, Andy, we got one more question. We got a third and final question. Question number three. Andy, I've changed a lot in the last couple of years. My habits, my mindset, priorities. and some people close to me
Starting point is 00:31:44 clearly don't like the new version of me. But my question is, how do you know when you're outgrowing people versus you're just becoming an asshole? Like, we talk about this quite a bit, right? Moving up, you know, no man's land, things like that. But how do you know you're really moving up and how do you know you're not just being a fucking asshole?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Is there a test for this? Like, how do you do this? Listen, not everybody wants what the fuck you want. Okay. And when people are around you and they've been around you your whole life, they believe, and you have to think about this. Okay. Nobody's ever been anybody but themselves. And most people look at themselves and believe that their way of doing things is the right way of doing things. Because, you know, they're alive. They're able to have some beers. They're able to go to dinner once in a while. They drive a decent car. They have a decent house. these people believe that their way is the right way. And so a lot of this comes from them seeing you kind of go off of that and them thinking, oh man, he's going to fucking end up broke because the idea of,
Starting point is 00:33:00 and by the way, you might a few times. Okay, that's another thing that comes with entrepreneurship. You're going to fucking fall and you're going to be embarrassed and you're going to need money and things are going to happen. And that's, that's the game.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That's what happens. it's your ability to push through those things that actually seasons you and skills you to the point that you need to be but the reality is dude is you have to understand man like unless you want exactly what the fuck they have you shouldn't be listening to them and you should be able to like hear what they're saying and not let it affect you you know um and that goes on for a long time
Starting point is 00:33:37 you know until you get to a point where your results are completely fucking undeniable that you know what the fuck you're doing and it was a great thing people are going to question it and they're going to doubt it and even now like in my position you know i still get people that they don't doubt my ability dude it's funny because it moves from oh don't do that or remember where you came from or that's for other people or be careful or don't you know you're getting you need to be a little more hump it goes from that shit to when you're like winning then it goes well i bet he's not happy You know what?
Starting point is 00:34:13 You know, you need to take some time to smell the roses. You know, because now I'm not being judged on the fact of whether or not I could build what I wanted to build. Now I'm being judged on, is it worth it? And by the way, it may not be worth it to them because there is an extreme price that you have to pay to build things. Like we talked about in the first question, that's not for everyone. But if you spend your whole life trying to appease people who are not on the same path as you, it's only a matter of time before you get pulled into that thinking again. It's like a fucking tractor beam that you see in the space movies, right?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Like it captures you. And this is the importance of you being able to mentally disconnect from people's advice that aren't on the same path as you. If you emotionally get disturbed every time your old friends or your parents or, you know, whoever it might be says something to you, if that bothers you, you have to, you have to change you. that dude because that's never going to change that's something that comes along with straying off the path that's what they see it as they see it as you're straying off the path you see it as i'm going to be
Starting point is 00:35:22 great all right we're not seeing the same thing here because they've never seen it remember this dude most people don't know anybody that's built something most people don't know somebody who drives a fucking Ferrari or has become financially successful or built a major company they don't They see it on Instagram, but they don't know someone. They don't, so if they don't see it, they don't believe it. Okay. And this is why we talk about personal excellence being the ultimate rebellion, because most people have never seen it.
Starting point is 00:35:58 So whose responsibility is it to show them that it's, well, that's yours. Okay. And that's where our obligation to be personally excellent comes from, because when we're excellent, other people see it. And they're like, fuck. If DJ did it, I can do it. Okay? And that creates a ripple effect through society that we're lacking right now
Starting point is 00:36:18 about people's belief in their own abilities to be great. And if we have great individuals, we have a great culture. If we have a great culture, we have a great country. Because culture dominates everything. Everything in the country is downstream from culture. Culture is dictated by the individual's behavior at collective. So this is the whole reason we started operator standards. It's why I built this tech.
Starting point is 00:36:39 It's going to be the greatest consumer product of fucking, all time and, you know, it's going to fix what's going on in society at scale. But, but the reality is, is that we have to first accept that it is our responsibility to show people. And they're not going to believe it first. Like, dude, I can't like, look, man, nobody fucking nobody. No, fucking nobody. Okay. Were there people that said, hey, man, I'm proud of you for continuing to work. Yeah. Were there people that said, hey, it's cool what you're doing? Yeah. But the minute that you walk away, those people are like, fuck, dude, I don't know if he's going to fucking make it. Okay. So the belief is never there. It's never fucking there. That's
Starting point is 00:37:23 why you have to build yourself into someone that you trust, that you believe in, that has the skills, that has the discipline. Because like we talk about all the time, dude, if you have a place that you're going and you have a plan to get there, the only element that you need past that is the ability to execute. The ability to execute comes from building discipline and mental tough. If you could become mentally tough, if you could develop grit, fortitude, perseverance, discipline, self-confidence, self-belief, and you build the ability to adhere to a plan, then success becomes a very simple thing. It's just execute on the plan. But where most people fail is, they don't know the outcome. They don't know what it's going to take on a daily
Starting point is 00:38:09 basis to get there and they sure as fuck don't have the ability to follow the plan. So they don't have any of the three elements. But the three elements are very simple. Where the fuck you're going? What do you got to do today to get there? And do you execute when you don't fucking feel like it? Because you're not going to feel like it most of the time. So if you combine those three things where you have the ability to execute, you have the plan, you have the outcome. It's just as simple as executing. And this is why we say, you know, you cannot fucking beat someone that will be able to execute on good and bad days, no matter what the fuck is going on. That person cannot be beat.
Starting point is 00:38:42 They cannot be beat by anything or anyone. Because it doesn't matter if the whole world's coming down on their motherfucking head, bro. It doesn't matter if they're having a nervous breakdown. It doesn't matter if things are shitty. It doesn't it doesn't fucking matter. None of the other shit matters. They're still going to get their shit done. Like dude, and that's something you develop.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Okay, I didn't really start developing that until I was 36 years old. six years old. Wow. Okay. So you can get to a certain level. Yeah, you can get to a certain, bro, you know, when I figured it out, we, we, we had a hundred plus million dollar company. But you could get pretty far, kind of, kind of half-assant.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But like if you want to get, if you want to get there fast, like, like, had I known that on day one of my business journey, I would have got where I'm at, like now in 10 years. I would have got, I would have went, instead of 25 years, it would have been 10, all right? but you know it's simple it's just a fucking it's simple bro it's simple it's simple it's simple is it easy no it's very difficult but it's simple as fuck and um you know this idea that we're that we're you know kind of propagated into that there's like this magic or this club or there's like this fraternity or you know the fucking illuminati or whatever right that like allows you to come in and then dictates what that's not how the fuck it works bro how it works is this you execute you produce
Starting point is 00:40:14 results people above you start to respect that and they start to say hey that motherfucker's a go-getter he's a killer dude i want to know that guy because as you get older you start to realize i got to play ball with the young guys i want to i want to bring the young guys in i want to be surrounded with the young winners and that's a great thing for someone who's young that produces results. But at the end of the day, bro, there's no secret. There's no club. There's no mystical fucking success fairy that comes down and says, oh, DJ, I grant you
Starting point is 00:40:47 the power to be successful. That's how the fuck it works. And I thought that's how it worked for a long time. You know, for a long time, I was wondering when I was going to get the break or when I was going to get the call or when I was going to feel like I made it. And you know what? None of that ever happened. I still don't feel like I've made it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And anybody around me knows that. That's not bullshit. Like that sounds like, I know, I know for a lot of you guys, you know, you probably think, oh, well, he's just saying that. No, dude, not really. Like, I'm definitely afraid of having to go dig ditches. And while that might not be true that that's where I would end up, in my mind, that's what I think. And that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I don't want to lose that. You know what I mean? Because I don't ever take it for granted, dude. And I don't think anybody here does. I know they don't. No. You know? Dude, I was thinking about this, too, it's like, you know, you talk about this proverbial path, right?
Starting point is 00:41:40 That most people are on where it's safe, it's comfortable, right? Like, there's consistency to it, right? And you step off of that path to go build something, do something crazy. It made me think, like, how many people, the moment they stepped off that path and they started getting that, you know, the pushback or the doubts, whatever. And they were like, okay, I'm just going to come back to where that happened. That, dude, bro. Fuck, man. Bro, listen, there are more amazing businesses, more cures for disease, more culture-shifting ideas.
Starting point is 00:42:15 There's more greatness in the motherfucking graveyard than there is in the entire world because of what you just said. People are afraid to step out and let their internal who they were supposed to be shine because some losing. say a couple things to them. That's not doing anything. Bro. And you have to, you have to understand. They're them and you're you.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You're a fucking lion. They are a fucking mouse. It's two different things. You know what I mean? They're a fucking, they're a fucking race. You're a race car. They're a fucking bicycle.
Starting point is 00:43:00 It's two different things. Like you can't operate the same. And if you try to, and you try to appease that, you're going to end up riding the motherfucking bike just like them. Okay, so we have to understand. Like, all this shit that we read online,
Starting point is 00:43:15 all this, like, feel good, you know, victimhood mentality, you know, feel good about doing nothing, take a break, this, that, the other. Motherfucker, you've been on a break your whole life. That's why your life looks like shit. Okay, let's be fucking honest. All right, you know, and I know,
Starting point is 00:43:33 and everybody else fucking knows too. It's inputs and outputs. And if you don't have the fucking results, you haven't, you haven't done the fucking work. Okay. That's the reality. And people will bitch and they will cry and they'll complain and they'll say, well, I fucking worked hard for 20 years. Well, yeah, okay, maybe you did. Maybe for the last 20 years you did roofs and you work your fucking ass off.
Starting point is 00:43:55 There's not much harder than doing a roof. But in 20 years, you're still doing roofs. Why is that? Well, you didn't learn any new skills. You know what's fucked up? you have the hardest part licked the ability to fucking work hard all you have to do is take your time off and invest in other skill sets and start to leverage those skillsets and continue to grow and then at some point make a jump from that to this and then use the skill set of the discipline and the work ethic that you have
Starting point is 00:44:24 I mean bro like who who works harder than guys on a roof it's fucking hard it's hard it's hard you get up at fucking 3.30 in the morning and you work till 3 in the afternoon and it's fucking hard as shit. Those dudes are tough. They're hard workers. But very rarely do they make a jump to anything else not understanding that that work ethic would fucking pay in exponential spades applying it with skill. Okay. So it's not just work hard. It's work hard and get skilled and then apply the two together. And, you know, it's overly, it's so simple that I feel stupid talking about it. I'm being real, dude. But then I got to remember, like, there's a lot of people that don't know that yet. You know what I mean? It's just, it's, I know it. I know it like you know gravity.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Okay. Like, that's how sure I am of what I'm telling you. It, no different than you stepping off the building on the top of the roof and hitting the fucking ground. I know with that level of confidence that what I'm telling you is how it works. That's how it works. I've seen it's too many times. I've seen tens of hundreds of thousands of people at this point in my career do it. Okay. And there's no difference between you and them.
Starting point is 00:45:42 The only difference is they made a decision that they are going to go here. They made the plan of where they're going to go and they develop the ability to execute no matter what. And if they do those three things, dude, you cannot fucking lose. Dude, it's literally impossible. It's impossible to lose. It's impossible to lose if you do those three things. Because who the fuck's going to stop you?
Starting point is 00:46:05 There's no magic success monster either. It jumps out and says, no. You're done, kid. You shall not pass. Like, that's not how it works, dude. And sometimes, you know, little things do feel like that. I feel like that. Yeah, but they're not.
Starting point is 00:46:19 As long as you keep your head down and keep moving. You can't be stopped. You know how many times I've had bad things happen to me in public where the whole city or the whole country knows about it? And dude, I just plug my fucking ears and I show up the next day and I keep executing. And eventually the noise goes away and I keep moving forward. And it's funny because every time it happens, I see all the fucking little weasels come out and fucking pile on, right? And say, oh, hey, Fricela's done this time. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Got you, bitch. I'm never going to be done because I wake up every motherfucking day and execute. So it doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter what the world says. Doesn't matter what the internet says. What matters is what the fuck I do. And I do that every single day. And I've done that every single day for a long enough time to where I understand that when bad things happen, all I do is keep moving.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And to your point, that's a skill. Okay. So when you first start out and you first start hearing these little chirps and these little things, yeah dude it hurts but i'm gonna tell you how you do you're blessed to have it because here's the thing to this day i still remember all of those remarks i remember who fucking said them i remember where i was when they said them and and there's a whole lot of people that that uh conveniently don't remember they said those things oh yeah you know because you know me yeah just like last night at dinner you don't forget what will i do yeah i'll fucking straight up saying oh my dude i'll say
Starting point is 00:47:46 Hey, remember that time you told me this? Yeah, right. And they'll be, I didn't say that. And I do it just to make it awkward because I like that. Like, I like making it fucking awkward. All right. So, you know, but they never remember. And it's okay.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It's okay. It's okay. I didn't give you a reason to believe in me. I hadn't proven myself. Back then, you know, I look like a fucking idiot out there trying to do shit. I don't look like an idiot anymore. Okay. Well, some of you guys might disagree.
Starting point is 00:48:15 But the point is, is that eventually those voices quiet, you prove yourself. And then it becomes something else. It becomes, you know, you're too focused on this or, you know, are you really happy or this or that or this? And this and it, it's just always bullshit. And if you can't put your earplugs in and separate the bullshit from everything else, you can't make it, dude. You know what I'm saying? You got to have selective hearing. And then there's the other part of that, too.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Like a lot of people will say, well, because I'm not saying this. Fuck whatever they say. Well, dude, if you have the attitude of fuck everybody else, which serves you in a lot of ways, right? Like all those comments that I heard, when I don't want to do shit, I remember those things to this day, bro. Like if I don't want to get out of bed, I'll fucking cycle through all the shit people told me and I'll be like, fuck them. And I'll get the fuck up. That's valuable. But here's where it becomes toxic.
Starting point is 00:49:13 when you have an attitude of fuck whatever, fuck everything everybody says, you miss out on a lot of good, a lot of good, uh, points that you could improve because usually inside of criticism, there's always like a shred of truth. And a very smart person will pick out the truth.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And fix that ahead of time. Yeah, make that adjust. Yeah, they'll do it proactively. And, you know, that,
Starting point is 00:49:36 that leads into something else. Like a lot of people don't value information properly. You know, you know, they'll read a whole book and they'll say, well, I wasted six hours reading that book because you didn't get anything out of that book, bro. You didn't get one sentence. Okay. If you read a book, it took you six, seven hours to read and you got one paragraph that fucking made something click. That means it was worth your time.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Okay. If you are, you know, like, let's just say operator standard or Arte or something like that, where it costs money, okay? let's just say operator standards, 50 bucks a month. I could promise you 1,000% that there's going to be a paragraph or there's going to be a conversation or there's going to be a lesson that is going to make you exponentially more money than you will ever spend in that by doing that. So you have to learn how to value information properly and winners value it properly. They understand that if I sit down and I invest 10 hours, of my time learning something and I only get one paragraph, then it was worth that.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Because that will make me X amount of dollars on the backside. You see what I'm saying? Like, okay, for example, this little conversation that we just had about putting out fires before they start. That little piece of information, listen, that little piece of information will make you, if you're smart and you're executing, it's going to make you millions of dollars over the course of your life, period. it.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Okay. And you got it for fucking free. But if you don't value it and you don't understand that, you know, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're just not a very intelligent person. Yeah. Most people though, right? They don't think most stuff applies to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah. Something does. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So a big difference between winners and losers is their ability to value information properly. And to be able to filter through the bullshit to figure. it to figure out what the thing is that could be some truth. Like, for example, you know, people will say, oh, man, everybody's a hater.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Not everybody's a fucking hater, bro. Now, some people will deliver messages, and some people are haters. But sometimes those haters, there's a piece in there that you can look at and move the emotion out and say, you know what? They're right about that. Okay. When I was fat, when I was 350 fucking pounds, every time I post on the internet, someone will be like, oh, you're a fat fuck.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And I'd be like, fuck, fuck you, man. You're just a hater. Yeah, you're just a fucking hater. And then one day I woke up and I'm like, fuck I am a fat fuck. You see what I'm saying? And then I fixed it. And by the way, fixing that has made me literally hundreds of millions of dollars. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:30 From fucking people that most people say, oh, he's a fucking hater. Fuck that person. Yeah. Like, bro, real talk, like haters are very valuable because they give you, they don't care about your fucking feelings. All right. So they give the most honest feedback. If it's true, okay, you also have to have the ability to say, well, that's not true. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Right. But if it is true, that's some valuable shit. And- Isn't that funny, it's switches now that you're ripped and in shape? Now it's like you just do steroids and shit. Oh, yeah. Breakfast lunch you're dinner, baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It's like, it's like it doesn't matter what it is or how long you're doing it, you're going to get something. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck, man. So.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Well, dude, I love it, man. Like, guys, Andy. At the very least, bro, you got to be able to, like, haters provide lots of value. Okay. They'll tell you things that you can fix in a very honest way. All right. But then the other thing is if they are just hating, that shit that you could put in your fucking dark energy bank and draw upon it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:34 If you don't have a chip on your shoulder about the things people say about you and you can't draw that dark energy and say, fuck them. I'm gonna fucking prove them wrong. You're missing out on most of the valuable energy that you have to drive because there's much more negativity than there is positivity. So these guys who are like, oh, well, fuck, dude. It's not about proving people wrong. It's about proving people
Starting point is 00:53:55 right. Okay. Well, there's not enough people that you could prove right when you're when you're just starting out. So you have to be able to harness that negativity. And dude, there's been times where guys that are way above me have given me negativity. And that's the shit that really
Starting point is 00:54:11 fucking sticks. You know what I'm saying? It's like, alright, bitch. One day I'll be sitting across table from you. You know what I mean? Game all. I'm going to tell you this. There's a few companies that I'm going to buy just to fucking fire people. I ain't playing, dude. I believe you. Yeah. I know. I wholeheartedly. I ain't playing. I don't ever fucking forget. I don't ever.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I might smile. I might fucking shake your hand. I might smile on your fucking face. I'm going to tell you right now, I don't fucking forget. I've never forget. Never, ever, ever. So. I look forward to it. I love it, man. Well, guys, Andy, that was three, dog.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Yep, that's three. 7 p.m. tonight, Central Time. Real AFCTI live. Be there. Yeah. All right, guys, let's go out and kick some ass. Don't be a hoe. Share the show.
Starting point is 00:54:59 We're from sleeping on the floor. Now my jury box froze. Fuck a bull. Fuck a stole. Counted millions in a cold. Bad bitch, booted swow. Got her own bank row. Can't fold.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Just a no. Shot case closed

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