REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 999. Andy, Royce White & DJ CTI: Bad Bunny's Super Bowl Halftime Performance, ICE Raids in Minnesota & Epstein Files

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

On today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by Royce White. They discuss Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime performance, the ICE raids happening in Minnesota, and the Trump administration's ha...ndling of the Epstein files. 

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Starting point is 00:00:03 On the flow Now my jury box froze Fuck a pole Fuck a stole Count it millions In the old Got a on What is up guys
Starting point is 00:00:17 It's Andy for selling This is the show For the realists Say goodbye to the lies The fakeness and delusions Of modern society And welcome to motherfucking reality Guys today we have
Starting point is 00:00:26 Andy and DJ Cruz the motherfucking internet That's what we're gonna do We also have a very special guest Mr. Royce White Thank you Coming all the way down From Minnesota to be on the show
Starting point is 00:00:38 A lot of you guys are fans A lot of you guys been requesting them. We've been talking for years. A couple years. Yeah, about getting you on the show. So I'm glad we here. Thanks for having me. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It's awesome to have you. So before we even get into the show, yeah. Kind of like bring people up to speed on where you're at and what you're trying to do and how you kind of got here. Man, what a story. I mean, I'm born and raised in Minnesota. Five generations on either side.
Starting point is 00:01:07 My mother's father's side and my mother's father's side. mother's side. I come from a unique heritage in that my mother's mother is half black, half Norwegian. Her mom was, my grandmother's mom was a first generation immigrant from Norway. That's where you got all that height from, bro. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:23 No doubt. What are you, 6-8? 6-8. Yeah. And some change, you know, and some change. Yeah. He's 6-9. He's 6-9. He's 6-9. Actually, Charles Oakley always jokes with me every time I see him. He goes, you're 6-7. You're 6-7. I love Charles. I love Charles Oakley shout to him, but no, my mom's father was, is half black and half Mexican.
Starting point is 00:01:45 His mother was a first generation immigrant. See, that's why you're not six nine. That's exactly right. That's right. Gotcha. That's right there. All right. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:55 We'll talk about illegal immigrants. That's right. But no, man, I mean, I'm born and raised in Minnesota. Started off as professional athlete. Obviously excelled at basketball. I played all sports when I was young, though, basketball, football, baseball, even a little bit of soccer. And, you know, basketball took off from me around high school, became an All-American.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Then I became an All-American in college. Went to University of Minnesota, got in some trouble. Young years, staying at home, best player, arguably one of the best players in the history of high school basketball in Minnesota. So it came with a lot of attention, a lot of scrutiny, a lot of friends, a lot of trouble when you're 18. Especially staying at home. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And I end up making it through that. I always tell people I could have easily not survived that time of my life. Yeah. Taught me a lot. And I went on to transfer to Iowa State, played under Fred Hoyberg, and go Cyclones. They're doing great right now. And I was a part of turning that program around. When I got there, they hadn't been to an NCAA tournament in seven years.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And we made it back to the tournament for the first time. I was an All-American there for one season, got drafted, had a huge. Huge blowout fight with the NBA about their mental health policy. And I'll just tell that story briefly because I think it is the best backdrop for my political career. Yeah, when I first got to, well, first of all, I was diagnosed with a generalized anxiety when I was 16. First and only time I ever smoked weed, I had a massive panic attack. And then I would have subsequent panic attacks for like three months straight, three times. day and they all hit at the exact same time every day. You know, when you're 16 and you got a
Starting point is 00:03:44 single mother, you barely have good health coverage. You don't get good checkups every year. Yeah. And you start feeling like you're having a heart attack. That's scary. Most people don't know. Anxiety attack gets thrown around a lot now. Most people don't know what a real anxiety tax is. No, I mean, this is full-blown, blurry vision. Can't breathe. Heart. You know, where you go to the ER and they say, we're going to have to draw some blood to make sure you're not having a heart attack. Right. Because all the markers are bouncing. Right. So I went through that.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I was diagnosed with anxiety in high school, and somehow I was able to still be an All-American athlete. Basketball court was a place where I kind of zoned out, and the anxiety just went away. And once I got to college at Iowa State, we were doing well. We were picked to be last in the Big 12. We ended up finishing top three in my one season. And I got a lot of media attention for that. ESPN writers would come in and interview me and they asked you, what's your routine?
Starting point is 00:04:44 And I told them my routine for the pregame routine. And I ended up letting it slip that I didn't eat on the days of games. And I said, because of my anxiety. And the reporter's like, huh? What do you mean because of your anxiety? You can't just skip over that. So I went and I explained it to him and it became a front page headline that year. What year was this?
Starting point is 00:05:05 This was in 2012. Okay. Okay. Okay. So as I went through the season and we were successful and my draft stock started to rise, every year there's questions about a prospect's profile. Right. Okay, he's got the skills and the attributes. He's versatile. He's a good team player.
Starting point is 00:05:26 He's an excellent passer. He can do a little bit of everything. You know, some of the commentators called me a Swiss Army knife, right? Because I just did a little bit of everything. I was 6'8. I'm 260. But I played the one on offense. and I guard the centers on defense.
Starting point is 00:05:39 It's unique, hybrid, you know, kind of player. And so, okay, well, where's his NBA draft stock going to be? Well, his anxiety is a huge question mark. Do we consider anxiety a genuine health issue, or do we consider the character flaw? This was the question that was... Yeah, and this is before mental health became mainstream. Oh, this was what kind of sent mental health mainstream in a sense, because it was the first time that the NBA or professional sports across the board,
Starting point is 00:06:07 had to answer questions about their mental policy. So then I get drafted to the NBA. And I'm at this thing called the rookie transition program. They have it in Hoboken, New Jersey, every year. And it's basically a seminar where they bring all the incoming rookies in and they teach you about finance and, you know, attorneys and watch all for the girls. Yeah. You try and trap you get you pregnant and get pregnant and all the whole night.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Watch out for your family. Even your own mother may be stealing from you. You got to be careful. Right. Here's an agent. Here's a financial guy. and you're on your way, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So I'm there and I'm reading. I'm probably one of you. So you find out those guys are the biggest ones. Then you, yeah. That's another story. You learn that quick. Yeah, you learn that quick. So I go back to my hotel room and I read and I'm listening to all these stories.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And one of them really stuck out to me is a guy by the name of Chris Heron who was addicted to heroin. Very good player. I believe he went to I believe he went to St. John's, but it might have been, might have been Boston. It might be Boston College, but one of those, Boston College of St. John's. Anyway, people with no basketball, no Chris Herron. Anyway, you know, his story was that he was
Starting point is 00:07:14 severely addicted to drugs. So they bring him in to speak to us. And I'm listening to him talk about leaving the game at halftime to go score smack on the streets in New York City. And I'm sitting there and not the drugs part because obviously I was adverse to drug use from my first, you know, bout with marijuana. I just, you know, never had drugs around me as a kid. And unfortunately for me, the marijuana turned me off to drugs altogether. So drugs went apart. It wasn't a part of it, but the feelings and the things that he was talking about resonated with me. So I'm sitting there, I go back and I look at my collective bargaining agreement and there wasn't a single mention of
Starting point is 00:07:50 mental health in the entire document. But there was a banned substance list. Consequently, I'm prescribed one of the drugs that's on the banned substance list. So I'm asking the NBA and the team now, okay, you know, what is this? I mean, how do you guys look at me being prescribed Xanax by, you know, when needed, as necessary for panic attacks, am I considered like, you know, a risk to the organization to the NBA? Yeah. No answers, crickets.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Well, we don't know. It's a unique situation. We've never had a player who was public about his anxiety ahead of time. Well, lucky you. I saw, you know, and the first one through the door usually gets, what, shot, that's right. You know, and that, so that's kind of what happened there. And subsequently, you know, two years after I went through a big public bout with them about this mental health policy, they would end up putting a mental policy in place. Kevin Love came out and was talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Bro, I think I remember. Yeah. I think I remember this. Yeah, Kevin Love. It was Kevin Love and DeMarter Rosen where the next one's through the door. And obviously much more accomplished players because they had already been in the league. Kevin Love is $100 million already at the time. And after them, it was just a, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:07 a watershed moment for the, for all the professional sports. And, you know, part of me was like, I'm thankful that I was kind of a trailblazer, but I'm also regretful because I had no idea that the mental health conversation was going to be weaponized by the woke left the way it is now. Right. I didn't, at 21, you don't realize,
Starting point is 00:09:29 oh, they got plans for this. topic. Right. You know, it goes from genuine anxiety, depression, let's say drug abuse, right, drug and alcohol abuse or even PTSD, like with some of our troops, cops, players, young black men that come from the ghetto where people are shooting each other every day. And now all of a sudden it's if we don't let this person cut their penis off, then we're harming their mental health. That was not the mental health movement. I was. You just don't blaze that. That's because it ain't.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's not the same thing. It's not the same thing. Right. Right. I mean, and that shift came after I was already out of the league and off of the main stage. Yeah. And I just say that because. This is interesting you're bringing this up.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. Because I watched this happen. Yeah. Like I've always been paying attention. Because you're a fitness, dude. I'm sure. Yeah, dude. And by the mental is a point.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I've had my struggles with it. Everybody. Like real shit. Okay. And it's to someone who's actually struggle with these things in a real. in a real way, it's insulting to watch everybody else fucking talk about it when it's being used as a shield. Snowflaking.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Right, exactly. Yeah. No. And so, I only tell people that story in the beginning because a lot of people will ask, you know, what makes you qualify to run for office at 34 years old? You know, what have you done? It's like, I fought one of the biggest and most influential organizations in the the entire world, in the history of human civilization,
Starting point is 00:11:00 and I was vindicated. I was found to be right. And then I experienced them weaponized something that I sacrificed a career for, because I did end up being blackballed for that. Yeah. Right? I mean, they were like, and they told me straight out. They were like, look, you got two doors. You can shut your mouth, go along with the program, make you some money,
Starting point is 00:11:22 be a great player that we know you're gonna be because you're skilled as hell. And we will help you be a trailblazer, we will help you with become the face of this mental health conversation. And I just told them no. Yeah. On the, from the outset, I'm like, it sounds like a payoff. It sounds like you're trying to, you just can't pay to shut me up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:46 On principle. Yeah. Why do they want to show you up? Well, because it threw, well, this is interesting. Again, apropos to me running for office. If you got to understand, the MBA and professional. sports is a watering hole for a global corporate community. And industry and corporations have done great things for civilization.
Starting point is 00:12:09 You run a great company yourself. I'm learning. So I'm not anti-company. I'm certainly not anti-capitalist. That would make me a communist. And we're advently anti-communists around the America First and Maga camp. But there are severe issues with the culture of corporate America and the global corporate community.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And one of them is when you when you one of them. How do I say this? Say it another way. The the greatest trick that Karl Marx and the communists played on the world was to pinpoint that in an industrialized world, eventually everything does come down to price unless you have people like this guy, which I respect, who does business with some sacred honor. It's just like having a country without God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:56 If you have a business without sacred honor, everything gets reduced down to price. And the Chinese will beat us if it gets reduced down. Not just the Chinese, but Marxists. Marxists will win in a game of radical materialism where the human condition is reduced to price. So what I was saying is using the mental health as a interface for that consideration. I'm like, okay, you guys have basketball players here, professional athletes. It only benefits them if we talk openly about what people struggle with. in their mind.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And the mind, ironically, is a gateway to the spirit. I tell people all the time, St. Thomas Aquine is a very, in my opinion, the greatest Catholic theologian of all time. He said that the intellect and the spirit are inextricably linked, that the two go hand in hand. This is a very Catholic perspective on theology. is like the intellect and the spirit are inextricably linked.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You don't have one without the other. In fact, the more you develop the intellect, which the Bible is a guide for, the more fruitful spiritual life you will have and the better connection you will have to God. Right. And so that starts with your psychology, your mental health. It is your mental health, your mind. It starts with education as well, and you can form people up the right way. But mental health is another way to say the human condition.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Right. And a person's psychology. So when I brought that to the MBA, which is a representative of almost every industry in the world, they were like, you think we want to have that conversation, dude? Yeah. We are about to launch the greatest propaganda machine in the history of known civilization, social media. See, this was pretty, remember 2012 social media was just getting more. Yeah, dude, it was, I'm connected to the person I went to high school with.
Starting point is 00:14:51 that I've never seen in 20 years. That was pretty much it. Remember when you needed a college email to be on Facebook? That's right. Okay, that was 09. Yeah. We're talking three years later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So social media didn't even get its pants on yet, right? But these people knew what the plans were because they were the early investors. They had already read the white papers. They knew what they were going to push. They wanted to keep the mental off conversation in a very controlled sort of narrative. Right. so that people wouldn't ask too many questions about the broader implications of dopamine, addiction, game theory, you know, casino theory on social media.
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's like when you're sitting at your social media scroll, your feed. Yeah, they don't want their, they don't want their nefarious design to be exposed. That's right. Yeah. And so talking about mental health was a precursor, you know, for uncovering that. And it still is. It still is a canary in the cold mind. And if you track it forward, and this is why I say, you know, why I'm running for office.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And I got blackballed because of this conversation and this ended up being the real canary and the coal mine. But even if I had shut my mouth on that, if it was China, if it was the COVID vaccine, if it was the LGBTQ. I was getting blackballed on all those issues too. Yeah, because you're not the kind of dude. That's right. I would have, oh, fuck you, no China. Fuck you. No LGBT.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Fuck you. No COVID vaccines. Right. So I look back at it and it hurts me sometimes because I dedicated my life to basketball. I love the game. I mean, I really, I'm a purist. Yeah. I love the game at an intimate level.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You know what I mean? Yeah, man. You dedicate your whole life to it. Yeah. But I'm thankful to God that I, that he tapped me on the shoulder and said, I got a bigger plan for you. Yeah. You know, and then now that brings us up to 2020.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I'm in Minnesota. Just come back from Canada, London, Ontario. I was playing professionally there for. two years. One there, won two championships. I was, you know, the MVP, my first season, broke the triple double record, the second season. I was the runner up for MVP,
Starting point is 00:16:59 but I was the scoring leader. And during this time is when Jordan Peterson went through his Bill C-16 controversy in Toronto. And now I'm sitting there, I'm watching this on local Canadian television at my house in London.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I'm on TV. I'm on, in my room one morning and I'm just watching local television at the news channel. And I see this dude, Jordan Peterson. And he comes on and he's kind of scraggly looking. He's got a weird little voice. And these people, these hosts,
Starting point is 00:17:30 they just started attacking them about this transgender thing. I didn't even know what it meant. Wherever I was under a rock playing basketball for all these years in my life, I had no fucking clue what transgender even meant. At 24 years old. And no clue. But I'm listening now,
Starting point is 00:17:47 and I walked away. from it thinking I fucking like this dude Jordan Peterson yeah he's logical concise brilliant very articulate and I don't understand what they're accusing him of exactly so then I started listening to Jordan Peterson I went back and I was listening to some of his lectures and then I watched him go through this fight with the people there in Canada and what I ended up thinking was I'm getting the fuck out of Canada and I did I went back to Minnesota I'm getting the fuck out of I don't know what these Canadians are up to,
Starting point is 00:18:19 but this guy looks like one of the smartest people I think I've ever seen, and they look like they want to string up up on a cross. I'm getting out of this place, right? But it introduced me to a political conversation that was far, far different than what I had been involved with the NBA. Same, same but different, right?
Starting point is 00:18:37 And so I get back to Minnesota, and I go to playing the Big Three, 2019, and in 2019, I gotta be honest, I'm kind of pissed. kind of pissed what I experienced with Jordan Peterson. Because I'm like, I'm a big guy on fairness. Yeah. And they weren't being fair to them. I mean, clearly, there was no sacred honor in the way they were attacking them.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Right. And it's a herald, like, for all of us. Like, I'm going to be next. And that is kind of the heresy of democracy and the danger of mob rule. So I go to Big Three, I'm pissed. I'm wearing shirts, you know, free the Uighers, you know, every political, Edward Snowden, you know, the whole panoply of what they would call red-pilled conspiracy theories. I'm just throwing them out there.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, so you know. You're a fucking problem. Yeah. Oh, so, but, you know, Ice Cube and Jeff Quodinitz were cool. Yeah, cubes with it. Cube was always supportive. He's like, man, do your thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I'm with you. I support you. We love you. Whatever you want to say, man, this with this league is for you guys, the players. And his partner, Jeff Quotanitz, who became a really good friend of mine, Jewish cat, you know, graduated at Harvard. in Obama's class, always been at the center of controversy because of the stuff Ice Cube has said, and Jeff defends him. He's like, no, this guy's not anti-Semitic. This dude is my partner. And he can say what he wants, freedom of speech, just like anybody else, right?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Anyway, I tell you that because Jeff ends up introducing me to Bannon. Him and Bannon were partners, former partners in a company. And once me and Bannon got hooked up, it was like, well, first, the 2020 happens. So I'm in the big three. I'm saying all these political issues, boom, George Floyd dies.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Inflection point. I think that's where I first started following your stuff. You know, inflection point for American history. I'm sitting at home and this video goes viral. Everybody's watching it. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:20:39 I started seeing these people pop up and talk about it. People I've never seen before. Remember, I grew up born and raised in Minnesota, in the hood, right, in the neighborhood. St. Paul, Minneapolis, the whole Twin City metro area, all those neighborhoods you see now on the, you know, on the news where black people live. I grew up there. And now I was raised by a single mom with a big extended family, so I kind of grew up around the entire metro area. Yeah, yeah. So I'm watching this and these talking heads are popping up these black people who I've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Never seen them at any wakes, never seen them at any weddings, never saw them at the after-school program. They didn't play basketball with us. They weren't in the neighborhood, ding dong ditching. Yeah. They weren't around in Halloween. You know, so I'm like, who the fuck are these people? Yeah. And who are you to come in here and talk on my behalf?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah, bro, we saw that shit during Mike Brown here in St. Louis. Yeah, that's where it's right after us. This shit pissed me off. No, it really pissed me off. Yeah. So being the crazy, you know, brash, smash-mouth motherfucker I am. Yeah. I'm just like, I'm putting my suit.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I'm at the house. I'm putting my suit on. And then I get a call from Stephen John. Jackson, who was related to George Floyd, you know, they were friends, but, you know, his family to him. And he was like, I'm coming to Minnesota. I'm like, soon as you get here, you know. You're talking about Stephen Jackson?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Stephen Jackson from. The Rams? No, from the big three. Well, from all the smoke. Yeah. Oh, okay. Stephen Jackson. Yeah, got it.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Okay. Yeah, Matt Barnes is co-host. Okay. So, and we played in the big three together. Okay. So when he came to Minnesota, I said, look, I got you. You know, when you come, I'm with you. Because whether I agree with your politics or not or whatever you think, a friend of yours,
Starting point is 00:22:14 just died and you're coming to my state and my city, I'm going to be supportive of you. Right. You know what I mean? I'm going to be there with you. Okay, along the way, I'm also going to educate people on some things because I don't know any of these leaders. Yeah. But we're going to talk, we're going to get this shit organized real.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Because I don't, I wasn't there. Remember when I got drafted was when Trayvon Martin first died. So the whole kick up and spin up of BLM happened while I was playing in the NBA and then fighting the NBA about mental health. policy, completely disconnected from the whole race, BLM conversation. I watched it. I saw some of it, but along the way, I just chimed in like, hey, it's not all on the cops, not all on the citizens.
Starting point is 00:22:56 We've got to be reasonable about this shit. Fair. Until the George Floyd thing popped up. And then I'm like, oh, okay, so wait a minute. So you mean to tell me these people been here the whole time doing the activist? Oh, hell no. Right. So I go to the front line and I organize this demonstration.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I bring about 5,000 people to the front door of the Federal Reserve. Yeah, that's the first March protest we did. We're on our way to the, we started at U.S. Bank Stadium. We walked through the streets. Everybody's like, we must be going to the first police precinct. No, no, no, we're not going to the first precinct. The Federal Reserve is right around the corner. I'm bringing you guys, you said the whole system is guilty.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm going to show you how guilty the system is. I'm going to bring you to the doorstep of one of the most corrupt institutions in the country, in the world, central fractional reserve banking, unconstitutional tax, inflation. Let me tell you how the system works economically. Let me talk to you about monetary policy. People are looking at me like I had three eyes.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Oh, yeah. And I'm like, good. I like that. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah, when you let people blame the cops for all your problems, I know you either aren't serious about your problems. Or you're uneducated.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Or you're getting paid. Yeah. Or you're getting, you're getting, Yeah, or you're getting paid. So anyway, when I was out there and I was talking to people about corporatocracy and monetary policy and the Fed, all of a sudden, the LGBTQ activists of the city didn't like that me and some of my black friends, men, heterosexual, might have. Oh, yeah. No, they didn't like that. Well, they didn't like that we were doing our own protests and weren't coordinating with them.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Right. Then this really pissed me off. I almost slapped the shit out of somebody. Seriously. No, seriously, this pissed me off. There was a young girl who came out and she sang the national anthem. Beautiful young girl, her name is Jackie. Jackie Blue. She has a few songs on iTunes. You can go look it up. Anyway, she came out to sing just to, you know, be, you know, inspirational, right?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah. So it caught on and we started to have her sing. Every time I go to the Fed or do one of these things where I'm trying to do, we bring her. All of a sudden, I get a call from this LGBTQ organization, and they ask me, is she gay or she? straight. And I'm looking at my phone. I said, I said, excuse me. They's like, well, we just want to know our, you know, are the LGBTQ people getting a fair chance to be represented and perform and sing? Like it's a fucking talent show. Like what fucking difference does it make? I said, first of all, if I, even if, first of all, this is a grassroots, completely organic. Me and a few of my
Starting point is 00:25:39 basketball friends and some other black men in the community that I grew up with decided that the city's burning down. We need to do something that's stabilizing. We're not going to let these young white kids that are dressing up in all black dictate the energy of what's going on here in the Twin Cities. If people want to protest, I'm all for it, no matter what your views are, actually, because I believe in the right to protest. But if we're going to protest, let's actually get to the heart of the problems. I'm going to bring you here, and you're going to bow your heads and pray. And guess the beautiful part of the whole thing was about 10 times I got about 10,000 what would be atheist to bow their heads while we prayed. I don't know who they were praying
Starting point is 00:26:16 to, but I was praying to Jesus Christ and they were respectful. Yeah. Because when you get real strong male leadership, you'd be surprised how some of these Satanists will back down. Oh yeah. Right? So anyway, I get this call. They can't have that, bro. That's why they, that's why they've intentionally made men weak. That's 100% percent. So I get this call and this is what they were trying to do to me. They were trying to punk me, passive aggressively and in secret. Not out in the front when we're at the Fed and say, you know what? We want to be at the police precinct because economic and monetary policy will point us to the leaders of the Democrat Party that are funding us being out here. I didn't know that at the time because I'm not in that little community.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Right. I don't know the verticals coming down from George Soros and those people on high all the way down to your average local activists. Right. Now the person who shows up in the street who gets high and fucks on the weekends, they don't know about the whole. webbing of how the money flows. They just have their heartstrings pulled by a George Floyd video, right? So I get this fucking call and they're like, who is she, who is she, you know, having said, you know, who's she with?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Is she a lesbian or straight or buy, whatever? And I said, even if this was an actual organization or corporation, it would be illegal. It would be discriminatory for me to ask her. Right. What her sexuality is. You're actually asking me to discriminate against her. Yeah. Now you're asking, I said, so first of all, it's none of your fucking business.
Starting point is 00:27:36 who she's having sex with. I don't know, but if I did know, I wouldn't tell you. And if you show up to my protest, I'm going to slap the fucking teeth out of your mouth for even asking. And, oh, the backlash was heavy. Then it was Royce's homophobic. I said, oh, great, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I just saw Jordan Peterson go through this. I'm prepped. I love this. Let's fucking do it. And I didn't back down. So then they tried to push me out. You know, the Washington Post was like, Royce White, a towering figure for local Minneapolis activism.
Starting point is 00:28:06 till they figured out I was at the Fed, then I was homophobic. And then I said, okay, you guys want to play this game? I'm running for Congress on the Republican side. Ultra MAGA, America First, this LGBTQ shit is out of control. I'm not going to watch a black man die
Starting point is 00:28:20 and you act like you're out here protesting on his behalf. And as soon as we get in the street, you say black trans lives matter. I don't even know what transgender is. Yeah. And if you want to have a transgender protest, you're an American citizen.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, right. Don't blend that shit with us. That's right. Don't blend that shit with me. And don't speak on. behalf of black. So that brought me up to 2022. I ran for Congress. Try to run against Ilhan Omar.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I lost an endorsement in a convention by about 40 votes, went to primary, lost the primary by 900 votes. Let me tell you a story about Minneapolis. This is how bad Minneapolis is. Minneapolis Republicans. We're going to talk about Republicans today. Listen, bro, I'm not affiliated with either.
Starting point is 00:28:59 How soft-bellied these Republicans are makes me sick. And I never knew them growing up because they're so weak. Yeah. They don't want, they don't have the stones to bring representation into the city. But then they talk about needing to swing these votes. So I never saw, I never even met a person who was actually affiliated with the Republican Party my entire life until I decided to run. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Right. Running in CD5, this is Ilhan Omar's district. Mm-hmm. There were only, there were only 10,000, 22, midterm Republican voters in the entire primary. 10,000. Now, to help you understand that the gravity of that, in the general, there were about 230,000 Republican primary voters. So they just decided in the, in the, in the, in the, in the primary, they're just not going to show up. In the general, there were 220,000. In the primary, there were only 10,000. 10,000 of 220 show up to the primary? It means you guys
Starting point is 00:30:02 aren't even involved in politics. They don't know politics. They don't, they don't, they don't, they They don't understand, dude. People don't understand. The general public does not understand the importance of community primaries. Correct. And the grassroots elections that happened. Correct. They just don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So, I mean, I lost by 800 votes. And everybody said, dude, you got to go for a smaller office. Yeah. You got to run for city council or run for mayor. That'd be great. You know, you're really articulate. We need somebody on the Republican side to run for mayor against Jacob Fry. I said, fuck you, I'm going up.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I'm running statewide because I don't like this sample size. I think these were, the fact that only 10,000 of you showed up for the primary tells me you guys aren't serious. I want to go up. Let's see what the statewide Minnesota Republican Party thinks. So I decided to run for Senate in 24 against Klobuchar. When a statewide endorsement, then with a statewide primary against the entire Republican establishment. I cannot tell you from Minnesota. in Minneapolis, all the way to Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 00:31:09 I had every Republican vertical lined up against me, and I still beat them in a primary. Shot hurt around the world. Because what it said for the first time is a nationalist populist conspiracy theorist. No, that's what they call you. A nationalist populist conspiracy theorist could win a primary election
Starting point is 00:31:30 with no funding, no support from the local establishment or the national establishment, and I didn't even have an endorsement from President Trump. Now, President Trump stayed out of my primary, which was helpful. He didn't endorse my opponent, which I'm sure they were lobbying hard for him to do. But he was wise enough to say, no, this young kid Royce is something, something's up here. Yeah, I'm not, right? Plus, Bannon endorsed me and a lot of the other MAGELWing of the Republican Party like
Starting point is 00:31:56 Kerry Lake and, you know, some of these people like that. So he stayed out of my, out of my race. But Norm Coleman, head of the RJC, the Republican. Republican Jewish coalition. Rudy Boschwitz, senator, former U.S. Senator, very heavy Israel himself. Tim Palente, last Republican to win a statewide race, won governor's race, didn't do shit for conservatives. Certainly can't be considered America first. All these people endorse my primary opponent after I won an endorsement. Now, let me tell how these endorsements work are, you go to statewide convention, about 2,000 delegates of the Minnesota Republican Party are there.
Starting point is 00:32:32 they're going to vote who they're going to endorse as the candidate, and then the party is supposed to consolidate around that candidate and support them going into the general election. You're not even supposed to face a primary, in theory, once you've been endorsed, especially when you've been endorsed at an overwhelming 68% on the first ballot. I was endorsed with 68% of the delegate vote on the first ballot. There wasn't even a second ballot.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Most of these conventions going to third, fourth runoff ballots. the establishment still endorsed my opponent spit right in the face of all the Republican delegates in Minnesota and they weren't even shy about it. So it's been a war since then. I lost the election to Amy on paper. You know, there's rumors that she was smurfing, the machine still aren't secure.
Starting point is 00:33:19 We don't know what's really going on. But on paper, I got more votes than any other Republican U.S. Senate candidate in the history of the Minnesota Republican Party except Jason Lewis. And I'm running again in 26. I won't stop until we crack the dam until we cracked the levee.
Starting point is 00:33:38 That's the story. I don't know. How long was that? 15 minutes? No, no. That's good, bro. Because I think it's very important for people to hear that it's possible for someone to run
Starting point is 00:33:50 without the endorsement or the financial backing that these candidates are traditionally getting. It's very, very important because one of the biggest things that people will say is, well, what the fuck should we do? Brother, where do you live?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Get involved. Stand up. Organize your people. There's no reason. And to be honest, I think that most people are coming to the realization that they need to elect candidates that are not bankrolled by the typical bankrolling procedures. Right. You know?
Starting point is 00:34:27 And so we got to. I think people it's important that they hear that from you. I think that's funny. They still call you a conspiracy theory. Of course I am. Michael, you say these are the types of candidates America needs. They're not bought and paid for. Brother, that's you too.
Starting point is 00:34:44 That's you. That's you guys. There's plenty of people in this chat here and listen to this show that you're waiting for someone to tell you or approve you. This is no different than in your business. Nobody's coming to say, hey, man, fucking grow. that business you got what it takes you know it's you anyway number one issue number one issue in this country special interest in lobbies yeah special interest in lobby money yeah these politicians
Starting point is 00:35:12 for the most part are bought and paid for absolutely we all know it we know what the problem is it's just a matter of to whom and how much it's right yeah 100% dude so how's a campaign going so far for you it's a dog fight man it's a fucking dog fight because you know money does play, right? I mean, money plays. There's a lot of people, I said this early on next, you know, we have an epidemic of selling out. People have a price. Yeah. And we say we don't want these candidates to sell out, but then we expect them to. A part of us expects a candidate to sell out. Right. Because we, in our head, we think, well, in order for them to even make it, there's no way. They're going to need a lot of money. Right. Okay, who do you, who do people think
Starting point is 00:35:56 you could go to, the conventional wisdom about a United States Senate race is that you need $20 to $30 million to even be competitive. Who do people think you go to to get $20 or $30 million without selling a piece of your soul or this country? The people who buy souls. The people who buy souls. It's not rocket science. And I've had them knock on my door.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I had them call me. I've had them say, hey, don't talk about this. Don't talk about that. And we'll support you. And I tell them all, go fuck yourself. Yeah. And that makes it really hard to run a campaign, but the sacred honor helps me sleep at night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And if we're ever going to turn this country around, that's what we need. And I only tell that whole story. I don't mean to carry on, but from the time I was 21 years old in the NBA, up until my last campaign against Amy Klobuchar, it's the same people. No, no, seriously. No, I get it. It's the exact same group of special interests and lobbies. It's been going on for decades. Both sides of the aisle, too.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Both sides of the aisle. No one can get in unless you are part of the club on either side. Right. So. Dude, nobody even talks about like the shit that happens once you do get in. You know what I'm saying? Like once you do get that Senate seat, you know, let's say you did raise 20 million in your campaign, right? Well, now you want to get on a committee.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Well, those committee seats cost. How are you paying for the, those are millions of dollars. How are you paying for that? We're not going to go back to the special interest and lobby group again. Look, dude, people got to real. People got to stop. They have to detach their party identities. They have to stop identifying as Democrat or Republican.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Like, dude, if you just took the Republican or Democrat off of the fucking thing and said, this is what this person stands for, this is what this person, and put their policy on there, we'd have a much easier time getting people elected that should be elected. But we all fall into the propaganda and the way the machine is designed. And it's designed around tribalism. around getting people to attach to their favorite team, no different than, you know, who was in the Super Bowl, oh, Seahawks or Patriots, it's the same shit.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Right. And we, the American people, have to get back to a time where we are electing people on policy, not on popularity, or if there are our representative or our team, right? Right. And that's what's destroying this country. That's really what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:20 We saw, you have, I mean, among a bunch of other things. For sure. That's a good place. That's what's removing the power from the people. Yeah, bro, because you will have people who will literally, openly knowingly vote against their own interests simply because they don't like the other guys letter in front of their name.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Or they don't like, he said one thing. They didn't like. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But like, your tax is about to go up. You ain't going to be able to buy the house. It doesn't matter. It's crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:45 But he didn't win. That's all that. That's the hardest thing about running a campaign. As a candidate, that's the most difficult thing. In order to tell the truth, you run the risk of offending the people that you want to vote. for you. Yeah. This is the heresy of democracy. I talk about this all the time, the four great heresies of the West. Scientific method, democracy, computer technology, and the fourth and final one will be artificial intelligence. Heresy democracy, circa, I don't know, 1300s in France. The heresy
Starting point is 00:39:15 is that all majorities are made equal and righteous. What kind of stupid philosophy is that? All Democratic majorities, all majorities are not made equal and righteous. In fact, if you look throughout history, the majority of the majority of majorities get it absolutely fucking wrong. Not only that, it ends in the slaughter. That's right. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But our politics are set up in a way where everybody's trying to pander to the people, and we're totally willing to trick them if necessary in order to win. I'm just not about that. I'll tell you every little detail, nuance, whatever topic you want to talk about, I'll give it to you exactly what I think. People want that. They want the, they, they, they, I don't know. Deeply.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Deeply want that. On the surface, no. I think a lot of people are waking up to that. Yeah. You might have been a little early. Enough for President Trump to have won the last election. Yeah. And whether you like him or not, hate them, love them, disagree, question them.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I do it as well on my show. But you can't deny that President Trump is the first politician candidate president to disrupt, to upset the apple cart since JFK. Well, Reagan, you could say Reagan maybe, but they shot him too. Never forget. And that was kind of conspicuous also. But, you know, Reagan, Nixon was about to. He was trying to say some things.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And I think Watergate was kind of an intelligence coup on Nixon in a way. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And then you had Reagan. Yeah. He got popped. He was saying some shit. And then you get the Bush junta, you know, the neo-conservative wing of the Republican
Starting point is 00:40:44 party that's still running shit today. They're still running the intelligence community. They're still running the military industrial complex. These people are bad hombres. But, you know, President Trump, was the first one to say a lot of things. And you got to give them credit for that, whether you like them or not, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Well, I think, you know, there's a lot of discontent with Trump right now. I'm frustrated with Trump right now. I think most of our listeners are frustrated with Trump right now, but not because of anything else that he's, we feel he's not being aggressive enough. Amen. Yeah, and that's,
Starting point is 00:41:15 go max. Yeah, that's where we're, we'll talk about it as we get into the show. But let's go ahead and get into the show, guys. Let's do it, man. Glad I'm here. Thank you, man. You can be good, man. Well, seatbelts on, guys.
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's Sounded Cruz. Yeah. It's Sounder Cruz. Guys, you guys know how this works. We bring a headline in. We talk about it. If you guys would like to see any of these headlines, these videos, articles, links. Go to Andy for Seller.com.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You guys can find them all link there for you. That being said, let's get to headline one. Do it. We got a Super Bowl. We got to talk about Super Bowl. Oh, man. Yeah, we got to talk about the dumbest shit in the world. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Start the fucking show. You know, no, we got to talk about it, man. This is a big, big contention piece here. And it has nothing to do with the two teams that actually played. It's the bread and circuses, bro. Bro. Well, so this is a CNN headline. And I'm going to show you guys this.
Starting point is 00:42:09 This is how they're describing it. Bad Bunchies Super Bowl halftime performance redefined what it means to be an American patriot. Okay. How? Yeah. Please enlighten me. Yeah, and just over 13 minutes worth of music starts stars and symbolism, Puerto Rican superstar, Bad Bunny, rewrote what it means to be American in the time of strife. And for those that maybe didn't get a chance to see the halftime performance, I have condensed it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Let's check it out. That's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. What's up with the shoulder pads? I don't know, man. Is that like a football thing he's doing there? I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:06 it was football, right? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. But that was pretty much it. You know, but one piece,
Starting point is 00:43:12 you know, it's kind of divided everybody. Everybody's divided right now on this halftime show. Everybody's divided by everything. Yeah, it's just another thing. I like peanut butter. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I like jelly. That's right. Oh, what kind of jelly? You grape or strawberry. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Fucking grape. Fuck you, grape.
Starting point is 00:43:25 It's right. It's right. And, you know, but one thing that did happen during this halftime show, you know, as it redefines what it means to be an American patriot, was this slip up here. A new low for the NFL bad bunny featured two men simulating sex dry humping during halftime show. You see that? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Did you watch it at all? No. Did you watch it at all? No. Oh, so this is new for everybody. All right. I mean, I've seen the fucking internet today. That's all people are talking about.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I mean, I didn't. I forgot it was even on. I will say this. I will say this, right? I was actually expecting way more gay. Okay, well, is it, let's see. It was two seconds. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:44:02 This is the clip. Two seconds. That's what you got. Okay. That was it. Well, that's super gay. Super gay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Super gay. I was expecting way more. I was expecting way more. And so, like, I'll say this first. I'm glad it was just the two seconds. I knew, like, listen, you can't avoid that. They're going to do it. They're going to try it.
Starting point is 00:44:21 You know, this is probably about seven minutes in or so. and, dude, I remember watching this live. I was at my buddy's house. I was watching this live. You got excited, didn't you? No, dude, like, we're sitting there, bro. Like, as soon as this pop, got yourself, one of them game owners.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Oh, man. That's right. That's right. But something interesting did happen, right? And so you had the Super Bowl. Everybody knows it. I think it was actually streamed in every country. It was like the first time that's happened.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Like, it was streamed across the globe. So all eyes on America, right? You got Bad Bunny leading the halftime performance. And TPUSA took this opportunity to give an alternative to the Super Bowl halftime. Because I know it was like a lot of talk up, like Bad Bunny was wearing a dress and ice was going to be there. It might have been this big spectacle. You know, the dudes an American citizen, I believe, to my knowledge, I think he is. Puerto Rican naturalized.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 51st date, right? Whatever. And, you know, but TPSA put their own thing on. And they had an all-American halftime show. And it actually did pretty well from all the stats and stuff that came in. And they had everybody there.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I mean, they've had our good buddy, Brantley Grillbert was there. Kid Rock was there. He performed. And some of the data, they had about 5 million live, because they live streamed. And they had about 5 million people watching, right? During the NFL's halftime, about 5 million people were watching the TPSs All-American. can have time show. And apparently it took like, it was like 22.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It accounted for like, we had the stats, like 20% of global views. During that time, we're on TPUSA. Huh. Yeah, some crazy stats, dude. Crazy stats. So I don't know. I mean, thoughts, theories on any of this stuff, dude. What do you, you say bread and circus?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Was this a distraction? Was it just pointless shit? I mean, it's, I don't think it's a planned distraction. We have the Super Bowl every single year. I think sports in general provide. and I'm a sports guy, I like sports, but I think people sink way too much of their life into them to avoid having to confront realities
Starting point is 00:46:31 that actually affect their lives. And the more that sports have started to morph into this political environment where they push messages, it's actually pushed me away from really being able to enjoy sports. And I was an athlete my whole life. You know, and so, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:53 it's hard for me to look at the internet knowing what was just released last week and the information that is in those Epstein files and to see people just like go on with their normal life. And that's that's frustrating for me to see. Regardless of bad bunny or kid rock or Brantley or anything, you know, that's where that's where my frustration comes from. you know, ever since these sports have taken on these political identities, it's just started to not be cool for me to like, you know, if my friend's playing or I got somebody that's playing, I'll watch.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But outside of that, dude, like, I don't even, you know, I don't even like feel like a sports fan anymore. Like, I don't, I used to go to games. I used to really care, you know, and my life was more fun whenever I was doing it, when I felt that way. But I don't feel that way anymore. And so, like, you know, I was, I was in the middle of other shit and someone texts me and was like, dude, are you watching this? And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:48:03 Like, I forgot that it was even on. So, you know, I think it's being certain. The controversy is being served up to get people distracted from a lot of the things that we've been talking about on the show. And you've talked about on your show that are going on in the world, you know, the fraud, the, the ice shit, the Epstein. shit, oh look, fucking football. You know, and two dudes grinding. Yeah, like, it's just, I'm just over it, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And I mean, aside from all that, I don't give a shit about either one of those teams. So, yeah, that's true. I mean, us Minnesota fans, you know, took one on the chin last night. Yeah. I mean, Sam, Sam, Sam Donald, our quarterback from the year before ends up winning.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. That never feels good. I'm happy for him. Yeah, he wins a Super Bowl on his fifth team. That never feels good when your quarterback leaves. goes on to win the Super Bowl and you and your team, you know, shits the bed for the yeah. But like, you know, I've got friends that are in various sports that I watch and, and I
Starting point is 00:49:03 kind of watch for them and it's kind of like it for me. Yeah. I think, yeah, there's just a real paradox in American culture when it comes to sports because as sports fans, we respect and revere excellence. We respect and revere excellence and, you know, some, you know, things that we don't hold in a high regard in the rest of our culture anymore. It's just a complete, what we love about sports
Starting point is 00:49:37 and what we've turned American society into are diametrically opposed. Correct. You know, meritocracy, excellence, mastery, skill. And then you have on the flip side of everyday citizens and, you know, schools is participation, And we all have to, you know, we're all equal. And elite sports, we're not all fucking equal.
Starting point is 00:49:57 No, dude. Matter of fact, none of us are equal. I've talked about this exact example. I don't even know how many times over the years. It's like, dude, you guys will cheer for, you know, D.E.I. And, you know, everybody's inclusion and this and that. But you won't say shit about it on your sport that you like to watch. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Because nobody wants to fucking watch that. Nobody wants to watch somebody who's half as good. It's not even reality. It's like it's it's absurd to even discuss. And that's why it's so frustrating to watch it in other areas of the world. You know, like for years and years and years, like people, like you run a business, right? And you take a picture with your team and they would say, well, how come you don't have any gay people? Or how come you don't have the amount of black people that I want?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Or how come you don't have the amount of trans people that we it's like, motherfucker, I don't even notice that shit. Like, I'm trying to win a fucking game. Right. You know, and like when you're at a high level of competition like you've been at, you don't look around at your team and think, fuck, dude, is the white guy going to fucking let me, you're like, fuck, is he good enough? That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Are we going to fucking win? That's right. You better hit this fucking shot, dude. Yeah. I don't care what your skin. Yeah, dude. That's it. Dard that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah. And I think, you know, that's why sports are such a good metaphor for life. Right. Right. You know, kids that grow up playing sports understand the reality of life. Yes. Right. There is a there is a there's idealism and then there's fucking reality.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Right. And whether it's your business, whether it's a sports team, whether it's whatever. The best people are going to fucking play. And we can debate and we can say, oh, well, this and that and this get better, motherfucker. Like, I don't know what to tell you. And we've lived in this society so long where, you. You know, like you said, we've rewarded kids for participation. We've told them they were special when they really weren't.
Starting point is 00:51:56 We've told them that they're all unique and everybody deserves to be equal. And that's just not the fucking truth. The guy, I watched this clip of Patrick Bet David debating this like communist chick on TV. Yeah. That show where everybody's in and they run in. And she was like, and Patrick, you know, it's a successful entrepreneur. He's worked this whole life. I've known Patrick for a long time.
Starting point is 00:52:22 It worked really fucking hard. Good dude. Smart dude. Yeah. Like, he came here. He fucking worked. And that's all he's done his whole life. And you got this woman sitting in front of him saying, well, not everybody can be you.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And he's like, well, you could have been if you would have made decisions that are different. Yeah, if you weren't a communist liberal. Yeah, bro. They could not fucking understand. Like, she could not understand what he was saying. And it was just, she was like, you don't know what it's like to make minimum wage. She's like, I've worked a job. He's like, I worked in fucking Hagenas for four fucking dollars an hour, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Exactly. Like, the problem is, is when people see that, they don't see the 20 years that put him there. Right. You know, just like you with basketball. They didn't see you fucking practice basketball when you're four years old on the fucking driveway, bro. Right. And do it every single day your whole life. My brother played professional sports.
Starting point is 00:53:14 The motherfucker. That's all he did. That's all he did. His whole life was play baseball. That's all he did. running around having a fuck no fucking baseball yeah throw hit go in the basement hit golf balls hours hours relentless people do not and then they obsessed it's obsessed yes it's total obsession and it and that's what it takes to win in business too and people look at people and they say well
Starting point is 00:53:38 I can't do that well then fucking you ain't cut out to win motherfucker like I don't know what to tell you that's the reality of life it's natural order the strong survive and the weak perish this is And no matter what arguments we want to make, no matter what ideal is and things that sound good, no matter, you know, if it's fair or not, it doesn't fucking, nobody, it doesn't matter. It doesn't even fucking matter. Like, fair is, is, it's not even a thing that is discussed at that level. It's not even, it's like, are you good enough or are you not? Well, at the same time, yes.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. I mean, the snowflaking is biblical. I mean, it's just, it's outrageous, the level of stuff. But that person could have spent their entire lives becoming something else. And they chose not to. But people are limited in what they can become. That's certainly true. Well, for sure.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I'm not playing the NBA. Yeah, right? You know, so, I mean, and I'm not going to be a rocket scientist either. I wasn't great at math. But there is something to be said for justice, right? And I think they're conflating a lot of these liberals. Certainly the communists in the left is certainly the feminist. I mean, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And their libted boyfriends. they're conflating justice with how they want things. Right. That's not the same. That's right. The idea of society needs justice. Yeah, we have that. Even Christian scripture supports that a society that doesn't execute justice is doomed.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah. So you need justice. Yeah. But justice isn't whatever I think it is on a given day. That's right. Justice isn't however I wanted, it should go or there's been an injustice done to me. Yeah. That's just a whole other topic.
Starting point is 00:55:16 What's a real injustice? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what a real injustice is. I know. A real injustice is being a Michael Jordan fan and simultaneously being an AOC voter. That's an injustice. That's an affront. Seriously. I don't know how the two things square. Well, how can you be a Michael Jordan fan and an AOC voter? The fundamental mentality about life is so polar opposite as to they shouldn't even be in the same universe.
Starting point is 00:55:44 They don't understand the process. That's right. They don't understand the process of greatness. They look at someone like Michael Jordan or, let's say, you know, fuck. Who's the greatest at something else? Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And you know what they think? Fucking, dude, he came out of the vagina and he, Michael Jordan. And when you talk to everybody else who knew Michael Jordan and he was so competitive, his work ethic was so strong that his teammates actually fucking hated him until they won. I love that. It's the truth. I love that. And dude, you see it, you've seen the doc, right?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah. Like, dude, he's, he's, Michael Jordan's sitting there and he's like, he's having emotional because he's watching videos of other teammates that he loved, okay? This is what people don't get about fucking greatness. Michael Jordan love those motherfuckers. The motherfuckers that he was up their ass, that he was like on their ass all the time. He loved them. He saw greatness in them.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And he was calling them to greatness. and people can't fucking tolerate that when you're dealing with someone who's a fucking maniacal obsessed this is the most important thing in the world even the greatest athletes have a hard time accepting that so he's sitting there and I relate to this dude
Starting point is 00:57:00 because I've had employees for a long time and there's been a lot of them that you know didn't work out and it wasn't because I didn't like him or didn't believe in them but they got tired of me being up their fucking asses and he's emotional because like dude his intent was to make them great too
Starting point is 00:57:16 and they hate them for it still to this day and that's fucking hard man that's a hard thing but at the end of the day back to what we're talking about they don't understand people don't understand that dude they don't understand the process they don't understand this rich guy
Starting point is 00:57:33 and are their cases of guys being chosen and getting funding and yeah but parent and but bro those people never become the greatest because they got shit. They were handicapped by the shit that they got. It's such an interesting thing because it's never one way or another.
Starting point is 00:57:54 That is true. And here's where I point out to liberals and Democrats, like when I'm on the campaign trail, I talk about politics. It is true that the corporate elites in our country, the banks, multinational.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Unfair advantage. It is true. It's not even an advantage. It's true that they're running. Anytime you have a merger of the corporation and the government, that's fascism. Yeah, I know. So we do have a proto-fascist system. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:22 So really, it's techno feudalism. But, you know, you neither heard no there. They have done a grave injustice. They have run a Ponzi scheme. There's no doubt about that. No, the fractional reserve banking. It's a scheme. The problem with it, though, is the Democrats...
Starting point is 00:58:38 Anytime you could take $1. Are the ones who ran it. You could take $1 and fuck a... loan out $9 against it? That's a problem. That's a fucking scheme. That's a problem. But my point is to these people,
Starting point is 00:58:50 they're so selective and they're so selective with their criticism. It's never coherent. Right. It's the same thing with the illegal immigration deal. That's a perfect example. Right. When Obama said it was okay.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Well, that was Obama different. He's not a fascist. Nobody died. People didn't get shot. People did get shot. Well, he did die. He's not a racist. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Now, you know, well, the point. The point is when it comes, and I do think the money scheme is the most important political issue. No doubt. Right? No doubt. So they did, they are on, it is an injustice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 The taxes. Yeah. Are fucking ridiculous. Dude. It's absolutely upstart. The question, but then, okay, so if you say the tax system is how the corporate elites are funneling money back to each other and stripping it from the working class, why on earth do Democrats continue to vote for a party that has the predominant support from the billionaire class?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Because they make people like me the fucking bad guy. That's right. And they say that I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not one of them. I'm a guy who fucking started from scratch who built a fucking company. That's right. Right. We employ people.
Starting point is 00:59:56 We provide careers in our community. We sponsor sports teams. We rebuild our communities. And they look at people like that and they say, tax that motherfucker more. Okay? They can see you. But they don't understand that by taxing that guy, more, he's actually not creating as much as many jobs.
Starting point is 01:00:16 He's actually not able to grow his company. And if you're actually, if what you think is true that those people are ultra greedy and will just keep the money, then that even plays more into the fucking idea that they're going to grow their company so can make more money. Like their whole fundamental understanding of it is completely fucked. They miss Milton Friedman's free market capital. Yes. Like if you really think that those middle guys who sponsor your kids team and shit,
Starting point is 01:00:42 are too rich and you think that they're that greedy, then if you didn't tax them as much, wouldn't they go make more money and provide more jobs here? But I will say this. As a critique of the middle market, the middle market, because a lot of middle market people are on loan. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Right? They're in debt and they're on loan. Yeah. And they have a bank. And they have to answer to them. Yes, right. That's right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:06 So a lot of them are disincentivized from organizing their middle market money politically. Correct. No, because they won't get any money for the company. There you go. Bro, people are, see, we're debt-free. That's right. See, nobody fucking owns.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Nobody owns me, bro. You know, you're a unicorn in the middle market. We're one of the biggest companies in the world that is not fucking, does not carry debt. You're a unicorn in the middle market. Yeah. Most middle market needs working capital loans. When they come in here, because we get shop, people try to come in and buy the
Starting point is 01:01:37 company and shit. Yeah. And we tell them that, they think we're lying. they think we're lying. They're like, oh, there's no, what are you talking about, no debt? I'm like, I don't know how to fucking explain this to you. Let me write it on the board. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Like, that's why it took 27 fucking years. And I didn't do it in five years. That's why you talk like a badass. Yeah. Because you're a badass motherfucker. Well, bro, like. Any middle market dude who doesn't have debt is a natural born badass. Well, I mean, nobody ever gave me anything.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And to be completely honest, I'm, I was never good financial. being financially literate. I, you know, when I was, when we were growing this company, we didn't really understand that we could have accelerated by taking debt. I was afraid of taking debt. And the reason I was afraid of it was because I know how fucking stupid I've been before where I fuck shit up. And the last thing I want to do is make a big boo-boo and owe a bunch of people money because then I can't pay. I don't want to do that. So like, you know, you sacrifice velocity for security, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Sacred honor. Right. But a bunch of American business is predicated on the debt system. Absolutely. And even more so, it's predicated on I can take out a big, and this is probably the biggest contradiction in modern American politics. The most progressive president in the history of our country was responsible for the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of human civilization by bailing out the people
Starting point is 01:03:06 who ran the Ponzi scheme. Barack Obama bailed out the banks in Wall Street. after the 2009 financial crisis. And Democrats just let him fucking. The Democrats just cannot reconcile how they still chant and cheer and throw rose pedals at the feet of a man who was responsible for that type of scam. Yeah, but that's just because he's well-spoken, bro, and he's charismatic. And he gets away with a lot of shit because of that.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Bro, when you watch fucking Barack Obama, okay, I know what Barack Obama has done. Okay, but when I watch him, and I'm also a pretty fucking damn good public speaker, so I'll pay attention to the other ones. That motherfucker's good. He's fucking, bro. He's one of the best ever. Yes, he is. And like, I watch him, and even though I know what he's done, I watch him, and I'm like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Like, I kind of like that dude. You know, you hear. He's got that Michael Jordan of public speaking. Yeah. And so people that don't know what he's done, it's very easy to be. be like, oh, like we saw it this, this weekend we saw it. Everybody, because with that fucking video that came out with that clip on the end of it. And everybody was like, oh, dude, by the way, Trump did that on purpose.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I don't know if you guys are fucking not reading it right or what. But the entire video was about the fucking election fraud. And they've been screaming about election fraud for years. Nobody wants to listen to it. So how do you get people to pay attention to it? Oh, you throw in a fucking clip that gets everybody. pissed off that you have deniability because it's part of another video well played mr president dude dude and not a single motherfucker out there is like pointing that out it's like dude what do you
Starting point is 01:04:49 got like all the talking heads all the people were like oh fucking it's like made the monkeys what the fuck are you talking about he he had to get people to look at it the snowflaking in the race in the race in the race the race bait conversation is part of what pulled me into politics i can't It makes me sick to my stomach. Seriously. Pro. Everybody's over it. With all due respect.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Okay. Black people have been through some rough shit in this country. There's no doubt about it. Nobody denies it. Nobody has any sense denies that. Nobody's even questioning that. But black people have done a lot of self-inflicted harm, especially recently. You continue to do.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Not only with cultural issues like hip-hop that says, hey, kill the next guy just for no reason today. Disrespect you. Not even that. Yeah. Just kill him because, hey, I pop. pop to perk and I'm feeling a little crazy this evening. That's crazy. It's demonic is what it is. It really, it really is.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I know, bro. I have, but voting for people like Barack Obama is also a self-inflicting wound in the black community because we are so gullible. The black community, and I'm fighting an uphill battle with this as a black Republican. And, you know, you're, oh, you're Uncle Tom. You're with, you're sitting with the money. Don't tell me you're some freedom fighting revolutionary Che Gueva-A-Rata type. AOC's wearing a $130,000
Starting point is 01:06:08 couture dress to the Met Gala. Yeah, that says fucking pay taxes on their shit. Did they bring any illegal immigrants into the Met Gala or the Grammys or the Oscars? Or... Do they have a little special section for illegals? Well, how about this? I mean, how many of these...
Starting point is 01:06:21 Don't they want to enjoy the show? The Vorn Invaders? How many illegal families do these people host? Zero. Oh, that would be zero. Yeah. And how many illegal families do the protesters in fucking Minnesota have in their homes?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Oh, that would be zero. Oh, that's right. No, actually, wait a second. Minnesota lip tars are a special brand of Liptar. Okay. Well, let's just say. Let's just say it's a percentage. They'll actually let, yeah, small, but. What's the percentage?
Starting point is 01:06:44 The percentage is 99% of these people are totally full of shit. True. And that is why you cannot allow them to morally manipulate you like you're some bad person. They're full of shit. They know you're a good person. And they're trying to manipulate your good heart to fucking advance their agenda. You're making the argument, though, for President Trump to go max. Well, that's what everybody wants, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Well, no. Well, hold on. Let's be clear about it. I want to be, we want it. Yeah. People in this audience may want it. A good portion of the MAGA movement in America First Movement want it. But there's about, I don't know, I'd say a good 25 to 30 percent of plumline milk toast moderate Republicans that, like Nikki Haley,
Starting point is 01:07:33 or the Mitt Romney folks or they're super Israel first that do not want President Trump to go, look at Tim Scott. You rhino cuck motherfucker, Tim Scott. Can you believe that he goes, oh, this is the most racist thing that's come out of the White House?
Starting point is 01:07:54 Are you kidding? Are you kidding? Depends on who you ask. Tim Scott, I mean, but again. I mean, I personally found it racist when you got Joe Biden and Kamala Harris standing up saying that white men are the biggest fucking problem in America, I think that's pretty fucking racist. That's horrendous to say.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah. I mean, they're saying it on television over and over and over again for an entire political campaign. I think that's pretty fucking racist. Super. Yeah. It should be. I'm not offended by it because I don't get fucking offended.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And I'm like, whatever. I don't give a shit. But like... In a normal society, something like that wouldn't even be acceptable to say? No, it's because, dude, it's, dude, when we, if you go back to 2000, like the year 2000 or 2005, motherfucker, we were over all this shit. Nobody was, you couldn't fucking say that shit. Everybody was getting along.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And then all the sudden, bro, Soros got his shit going here. And now look what the fuck's going on. It's the same shit he's done everywhere. Yeah. Anyway. Real, man. That's real. That's, uh.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Bro, I'm glad you came on the show, man. I love it, man. I love it, man. Hey, you're the man. Aye, bro. I got the tour before the show. No, dude. We got to talk after where.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You're a badass dude. Well, seriously, this country was built intended to be a nation of shopkeepers and agrarian farmers, middle market, entrepreneurs, independent businessmen. And the fact that you have a business this big with no debt,
Starting point is 01:09:18 you're a fucking unicorn, but you're a, you are, it's getting harder to navigate because we're getting into that bigger, the bigger business. Oh, and they're going to come with a sellout.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah. Yeah, it's coming. I just saw the other day. I love my people though, bro. I love this fucking I love what I do every day. I've seen so many entrepreneurs sell their companies because look dude, I'm just being real. I'm not trying to be arrogant. I don't need the money. They sell their purpose and I've seen so many people sell their company thinking that the money is going to replace that purpose and it just never will for me. Like I love fucking coming in here. I love solving problems with these people. I love fucking seeing them get better. I love seeing them like develop and grow and sometimes go on to other things. I love that shit. And I feel like that's what I'm here to do.
Starting point is 01:10:05 You know what I mean? And dude, no amount of money could replace that for me, especially when I live a pretty fucking good life. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, Amen.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Anyway. I probably wouldn't feel that way if I hadn't have seen so many people go through that. You know? Anyway, we got another topic. Yeah, we got to keep cruising, man.
Starting point is 01:10:23 We got a headline too. Let's go to Minnesota show. Let's do it. Let's dive in on this. We covered a little bit of it. But I thought this was interesting. We've been covering this on the show for weeks now, man.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Looking at it, and I think we've kind of come to a pretty good consensus, and I would love your take on it, but like, you know, I believe that they're continuing the ICE riots and the protests and stuff. It's a major cover for the fraud. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And that's really what we're going to do. You see it that way, too? Do the American people even care if they're being robbed, though? Like, I'm getting kind of cynical, and I'm so optimistic, but back to what you said about asking. Let's be real. Yeah. Okay, when I'm being real, like, if I'm sitting at home at night and I got on MSNBC
Starting point is 01:11:07 and I'm watching Rachel Maddow, you know, give the game play, you know, call the shots for the entire neoliberal establishment, the entire world order. And that's who she is. She's one of the brain child. People don't understand what you're saying. Make no mistake about it. When you watch Fox or you watch CNBC or you watch CNN, these are people who are people who are put on television to call the play.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yes. This is how you're supposed to feel. It's not just entertainment. It's not news either. It's this is how you're supposed to feel. Right. Dude, there was something crazy stat not to cut you off. I think it was like in the 80s or 90s that like 70% of all the news anchors were actual CIA operative.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Yes. Yes. That's crazy. What? But this is what I'm saying. That's what? To my apropos of what I'm saying. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:57 When I'm sitting there at night and I'm watching this shit and I got my notebook out. and I got my notes and I'm doing my political thing. I just always revert back to you get the government you deserve. You get the government you deserve, and by God we all will. And we the people have to at some point say enough is enough. And I just don't think we've got here. Here's the bottleneck that we're facing now. Convenience is the crisis in our society.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Like you were saying about how we've made kids soft. Yeah. We have made our society convenient writ large, just culturally, globally, right? Look, dude, you could order a pizza, be there in 15 minutes. You could fucking talk to your friends across the world without getting on an airplane. You can text. You could, it's, and dude, to people that don't have the perspective that we would have before all that shit, they can't see it any other way.
Starting point is 01:12:51 No doubt. Right? So when we talk about, like, what you're saying about, like, you say, do people give a fuck about the fraud? Well, the only reason they don't know if they do, bro. Bro, but the reason they don't... The high is too good. They don't know how much better their life could be without it.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Amen. They don't understand. They don't understand that when... This is just the way it is. Bro, they don't understand that, like, you wouldn't have that problem paying your fucking rent. You wouldn't have that problem going to dinner with your girl once in a while. You wouldn't be embarrassed about having to, you know, shopped at the thrift store or whatever you got to do. Like, dude, this would solve...
Starting point is 01:13:25 People just don't understand. But this reverts back. This is where... This is where it gets real. I mean, there's just such a fine needle to thread. And the people selling the message are making money selling it. Well, that too.
Starting point is 01:13:38 For big, big money. Yeah. No, and like I say about the Fed, and I say, do people care about getting robbed? Yeah. Right? Imagine somebody comes in, I said this on my show two days ago.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Imagine somebody comes into your house at night, takes your wallet or purse out, robs you of all your cash, comes back the next day and says, you got to pay back the money I stole with interest. with interest. You have to pay me back money. I stole from you with interest.
Starting point is 01:14:03 That's what the Fed has done to us. Dude. And people say, oh, taxation is theft. No, the fuck it isn't. It's fucking extortion. That's right. Because don't pay it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:12 And they make you pay, but they're still in it. It's do this or that. They're going to make you pay back the Vig on an inflated number that, a price that they've set is straight. Mafia shit. Bro. And so my- Look at property tax.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Oh. Oh, they don't raise property tax, but you don't even own your shit. You don't even own your fucking shit. shit, bro. So I think to myself, I go, okay, when are people going to actually say enough is enough? And this is where it gets complicated because, again, in order for people to even have a starting point where they would be offended by the taxation or they would be offended at the prospect of being stolen from their central bank, you would have had to have had a generation's consistency of American civics. What it means to be a citizen.
Starting point is 01:14:59 So we have to get back to those basic political terms where what is to be a citizen? What does sovereignty mean? What does it mean to be economically independent? And so where these things have been lost going down the fucking memory hole. Well, yeah, intentionally confiscated, you could say. They've gone down the memory hole. Now people's only political identity is transgender. I'm a woman.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I'm black. I'm Jewish. I'm Christian. I'm Muslim. Yeah. These are the only things that they can even identify. identity politics. Which is why the border, to your point about the race, to tie it in, the border has become a proxy for all other identity politics. It's not even about the border because
Starting point is 01:15:39 nobody can even give you a same or logical argument about the border itself. You have to have a border. If you don't have a country, if you don't have a country, you don't have citizenship. If you don't have citizenship, you don't have rights. You don't have human rights. You don't have women's rights. You don't have gay rights. You don't have rights, civil rights. You don't have rights if you don't have a country. These are fundamentals that were not unintentionally. Well, brother, they understand it. Or otherwise they wouldn't be building fucking forts in the middle of the fucking street saying,
Starting point is 01:16:08 keep the fuck out. That's right. Yeah. Right. That's right. So, I mean, as far as the ice rays go, I mean, I just think it's probably one of the greatest siops. The whole illegal immigration argument and debate might be one of the greatest siops in American history. Because I don't even understand the argument.
Starting point is 01:16:26 There is no argument. There is no argument. No, this is one of those things where, but it's also, but you got to think, we think of it like this from a lot. Again, you're making the point for President Trump to start arresting judges. Yes. To start arresting some of these elites. Yes. To start arresting some of these mayors and governors.
Starting point is 01:16:44 He needs to go, and people are going to say, well, wait a second. I mean, he's not, listen, if you get to a place in your society where given a prepubescent kid, hormone blockers is acceptable and then you get down the okay fine you guys got some weird kinky view about mutilating our children we totally disagree with it and we should do everything we can to stop that but it proves the point that you're disanchored from reality
Starting point is 01:17:11 when we get to the next argument and you say there's no such thing as illegal on stolen land okay so now we realize you guys have a thread of ideas that is completely detached from reality we cannot and you can have them because this is America you can have whatever ideas as you want, we're just not following you. We're not following you, and we sure
Starting point is 01:17:29 as hell aren't going to let you govern. And any of these conservatives, like Tim Scott, and the rest of the Mitch McConnell's band of running dogs, the NRC, and of course they come and recruit sideline doll, Michelle Tofoya, who's pro-choice and about ankle-deep on any of these issues. There's no substance whatsoever, because you don't survive in 30 years as a sideline
Starting point is 01:17:51 reporter unless you say absolutely nothing controversial. You get fired. If you say, anything dangerous. These conservatives that think even hesitate that President Trump should go max when we have a cultural crisis in psychological rot at this level, throw them in with the communists. Arrest them to. Arrest them too. God wills it. That's where Trump's getting his, Trump's getting his fracture is from not doing that. You know, everybody's fucking pissed off. They're pissed off about him sucking fucking Netanyahu's
Starting point is 01:18:25 dick. They're pissed off about our money going everywhere and they're pissed off by him coming in and being like, oh, you know, it's the greatest time of all time. At the golden age, motherfucker, dude, I don't know. When was the last time you went to fucking, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:41 and visited some people that are actual people? Like, when was the last time you talked to them? Because they won't tell you that it's the golden age. They won't tell you that. So, you know, There's my opinion politically like from because I have a more extreme opinion of what needs to happen. But let's just say that we're in a recoverable state, which I'm not sure that we are. But let's say we are for argument of discussion.
Starting point is 01:19:06 He has to fucking make those arrests and he has to hold accountability or he has there's no chance of those midterms happening. Nobody will show up. They won't show up. So. Well, and two things. One is I'm going to say finally because every time I see these ice raids head, line, I get dizzy thinking about how stupid these people are. But these liberal women in Minnesota are the bane of our existence. But there are actually a lot of liberal-esque women,
Starting point is 01:19:32 liberal leaning type women on the conservative side. And that's where you get your Mitt Romney's who are just about as cucked as any center-left Democrats you find. At the same time, I hate scapegoats. It's my pet peeve. And I do get the same. sense that President Trump, just like with the left, has become somewhat of a scapegoat on the right. Not to say that we shouldn't be critical, because I'm the first one to say, if we do anything in Iran, again, if there's one more thing done in Iran, I'm going to lose my shit. You know, if they want to do greater Israel, they can do it on their own. My opinion, let the Persians deal with the Mullahas. Let the Persians be Persians. But if Republicans don't understand,
Starting point is 01:20:21 that MAGA, making America great again, making America great always, America First is not a political philosophy or movement that they can choose to participate in or not. They just have to force the issue. They have to move the Overton window, if necessary by force, that that happens by showing up. Like, in Minnesota, it was just the caucuses
Starting point is 01:20:42 on February 3rd. If you didn't come to caucus, you're not going to be a part of the process because the primaries in America, and Eric Weinstein said this the best I've ever heard. The primaries all across the country are intended to prune both political parties of the populist candidates. So what they do is they have a bunch of party insiders on both sides of the aisle that strip the party of the candidates that actually would challenge the status quo before they ever make it to a general election. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And so most people don't understand that by not being involved in that process, from caucus up to the endorsement and then the primary. The whole game is, it's like right now, the Save Act is like, oh, well, we need to pass the Save Act. Motherfucker, they're already early voting in some states. Yeah. The time for the Save Act was yesteryear. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Okay, so we missed that because people do not even understand how the process works. And with all due respect to President Trump as well, and I know he's battling a lot. And, you know, you got World Wars breaking out while he's also trying to get a hold of these elections. And you got this Epstein file thing that doesn't bode favorably for him either, you know, to be quite just optics. Yeah. Now, I don't think he was guilty of a crime in it. Because if he was, surely Rachel Maddow would run a 24-7 cycle that President Trump should be convicted on those charges.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Yeah. They're not doing that for a reason. But it's still an indictment of him that he was even involved with Epstein to some degree. And everybody else up and down the line, some of them are child sex traffickers. And we need to, we need to parse that out. and we need that shit unredacted so we can figure out who's who. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Point being, though, even President Trump, and this is his spiritual burden to bear at this moment in history, because I do think that he was, he's been given a divine mission. But just because you've been given a divine mission doesn't mean you're going to make the right choices.
Starting point is 01:22:39 God's still going to let you make those choices. Like King David, in the scripture it says, king David is a man after the Lord's own heart, but he was covetous. He sent one of his generals off to war so he could bang the wife. I mean, this is right out of scripture, right? Right. But he was still a man after Lord's own heart.
Starting point is 01:22:54 So President Trump has been touched by, you know, touched by, you know, a divine calling. He still has to make those choices. And one of those choices for him personally, I believe, with this all due respect, Mr. President, is he believes in his own ability to cut deals. And so he has to overcome his own ego about being able to facilitate deals in order to get to a place where he can go matter. and not care what the public says about it. Yeah. That's his mountain to climb right now. There's also-
Starting point is 01:23:23 I'm pushing you down. I'm up right there behind you, pushing you up that mountain. Fuck these people, go max. Dude, do we have the Epstein shit in here? Yeah, that's the third topic? Yep. All right, because I got a lot of shit to say about it. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:23:34 But let's- We'll save it, yeah. No, that's real. I do want to get into the fraud, though, up there. Because I think this is the cover up, man. I think all the eye stuff. $100 billion dollars, when it's all said done.
Starting point is 01:23:43 100 Billy. At least. At least. At least. In one city, in one, That's one city. But people of Minnesota, let me tell you about Minnesota. I just want to give you an insight into Minnesota culture.
Starting point is 01:23:56 In Scandinavian, in old Scandinavia, and my grandmother came from Norway. So I understand the transition that Scandinavians had from the Viking warrior culture to the, what they call Jonte culture. Jonte was a more post-enlightenment Scandinavian culture where they had formed these communities where they didn't, they didn't like conflict. They especially didn't like conflict about ideology or politics. And there's an entire law of Jonté. You can look it up.
Starting point is 01:24:24 If you're out there in the audience, look up the law of Jontay. It's a political theory, but it's real. And it's what now is called Minnesota Nice. People in Minnesota, on both sides of the aisle, they don't like confrontation. This was a mechanism. They're like Canadians. Yes. But this is something that the Norwegian and the Scandinavian cultures did because the winners were harsh.
Starting point is 01:24:44 They had to scrape and claw to get the food gathered that they needed. and they had to worry about the neighboring village or tribe coming to kill them. So they didn't have time to scuffle internally. So their answer to that wasn't, we're going to become a battle-hardened warrior culture like Spartans. No, we just don't have time for any arguments. Right. We don't want any individuality.
Starting point is 01:25:03 We want collectivism. A collectivism will help safeguard us from the outside threats. That's why Minnesota is the belly of the fucking beast. Academic philosophy, government fraud, the brainwashing about illegal immigration. In Minnesota, you are looking at an epicenter of people who don't mind getting robbed. And they're going to show us in these midterms.
Starting point is 01:25:29 They're already showing us now, but trust me when I tell you, when these midterms... That makes sense. It makes perfect sense. It's called Minnesota Nice. Have you heard of Minnesota Nice? You probably have. But people in Minnesota have been to Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Oh, Minnesota, nice. All it is is Jonte culture. We don't want people to stand out. We don't want any too much comments. controversy, we just, and it's prime for people to go along with the get-along. You could still 100, why do you think the $100 billion fraud happened there? Because the Minnesotans are susceptible to accepting that type of theft. Right. How could you ever go back and vote for the, I could see you abstaining your vote. I could see you saying, you know what, I'm out if I'm a
Starting point is 01:26:08 Democrat. But for you to cast a ballot for Amy Klobuchar running for governor or Peggy Flanagan, who was the lieutenant who's now running against me for U.S. Senate, these, People were part of the fraud. In fact, Amy Klobuchar prosecuted a statewide daycare fraud in the Hmong community back in 2003. And you mean to tell me this $100 billion fraud happened? And she never once called over to the governor and said, hey, man, this is how they run that. She told them how to do it. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 01:26:38 When you can make money off of it. There you go. Kickback city. Yeah. The shit's crazy. And more fraud keeps coming out day and day. these fraud tourists, they just played guilty to a new Medicaid scheme. It was two men from Philadelphia admitted their rows of a $3.5 million scheme
Starting point is 01:26:56 involving Minnesota's Housing Stability Services Program. Another woman just sentenced to prison for stealing $325,000 in SNAP benefits. It's just one woman, right? It keeps coming out. Now, in more recent news, this report just came out. that simply on one policy alone, on one policy alone, up to a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Wow. Just because of some language in one policy that affected 14 services. That was it. That was it. And this just came out. And that's just one piece. They actually revealed that it was a total
Starting point is 01:27:39 about $9.4 billion in 14 Medicaid programs that were deemed high risk. The report we have it linked for you guys online. It's all there. But here's my question, dude. Because we kind of got into it, man. You explained the Minnesota nice side of it, right? But it's like, I'm still trying to understand why more people are not upset at our taxpayer dollars just being fucking just gone.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Right? And like, I'm thinking about this. I'm like, okay, well, could it be part of it? Is that because most people are not really truly paying into it? You know what I'm saying? Like there's a lot of people that are just paying their taxes. Yeah, right. Like, is there, is, is that a part of it?
Starting point is 01:28:22 I think when people think about, you know what I'm saying? I think when they think about fraud, they don't, they don't make the connection that that's like their money. Yeah. I think people don't do that. I think, I think when they hear this, they, what they are, what they're actually hearing is like rich people are being scammed. That's what they're hearing. Like, they're not hearing that it's, their household or their money or, you know, like they don't understand that even if the rich
Starting point is 01:28:54 people are being scammed, that's money that should be spent on their well-being. They're not connecting those two things. Right. Well, yes. And again, it goes back to, hence why I brought people to the Fed after George Floyd died. Yeah. Right? Because the culture issues, the cultural wedge issues are WWE. The whole, not to say that there are real cultural issues. Right. But what I'm saying is that the disproportionate amount of time that's spent
Starting point is 01:29:21 on the cultural issues, like hence the bad bunny thing versus the fraud in Minnesota or the Epstein Files tells you that people have displaced priorities. Yeah, or the central baking system that robs us blind our whole entire lives. But people don't even, here's two days.
Starting point is 01:29:37 But how do you get someone to understand that like, like it's like, it's like, start with a child. Bro, you got to, like, go back to slavery, okay? How do you convince a slave who has, because this is fucking slavery in a different form? Way slavery, okay? How do you convince someone that's been enslaved? They were born in slavery.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Okay, it's been their whole life. They don't understand anything other than this is what I was born into. To have a conversation with that person and say, hey, it's not supposed to be this. way, dude. They're looking at you like, the fuck are you talking about? This is what I've always known. This is just the way that it is. You're going to watch. I've got to go pick this shit, man. You guys get you get into it. It's like explaining color. It's right. It's explaining color to someone who's blind. It's a very hard thing to make people understand. Well, I do say, and I will say this, yes, 1,000% right, people are born into the, especially in economics,
Starting point is 01:30:38 people don't even have the rudimentaries of how finance works. Right. Right. And you tell, Like if you were to tell somebody how your business works to look at you like you at three eyes. Same thing with monetary policy. Right. And it's always the buried lead. So the mainstream media is helping cover it up. Correct. They never teach you it in school, right?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Because why would we want you to know how the money works? Not only do they not teach you at school, they handicap you intentionally so that you become a debt slave. That's right. The whole thing, the entire public school system is a factory for death slaves. But at the same time, again, I always go back to the people because, there is a part of us in our American culture that intuits. We have an intuition that something's gravely wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:22 And where that little piece of us exists, there's more upside for riding the wave, the rise of all tides, so to speak, the rise of the baseline material wealth. And there is a rise of baseline material wealth in this country that is on the same trajectory as the scam, which makes it even harder for people to connect with it because they're going, shit, 10 years ago, the appliances in my bathroom were porcelain, now they're glass or stainless steel. Right?
Starting point is 01:31:51 So as you get those little, and see the elites, this is how slick they are. If they can make the PlayStation or the iPhone or the internet or the appliances at your home or the amenities in your apartment complex just a little better, gradually, you won't get mad if they steal from you. They make you think it's better.
Starting point is 01:32:09 That's right. Okay. And this goes into fucking brutalism and structural design and architecture as well. You know, look at the architecture from 100 years ago versus now. Anybody that you showed it to would say, well, clearly it was better then. But little by little along the way, they do exactly what you're saying. Yes. Look how cool this is.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Look at this beautiful glass building with no soul and no, and these technology. And they convince you that it's better when it's. It's not really better. And you can't identify it until you look back and say, fuck, dude, when I bought a fridge back in the fucking 80s, that motherfucker last 40 years. Oh, dude, I just went to you that. Yeah, I know you did.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I just went through that. Now I got to replace them every three because they look cool. And at the same time, I'm still optimistic to some degree because with all of that downward pressure from the media industrial complex and what they're feeding us and what they're selling at the public schools, with all of that being said, more people than ever are starting to wake up in question things.
Starting point is 01:33:13 The problem with it is we're so late to the game, they can throw these little stones in the water, drop these rocks, these boulders in the water, and it creates a ripple where people have, they lose focus really quick on the plot. They lose the plot real quick. We're attention horrors, right? So in that sense, the conspiracy theory
Starting point is 01:33:31 is it does become a problem. When you condition people to fucking starve, you can make them think that they're at a feast by giving him a fucking cracker. Yeah. Okay. Right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah. Dude, what's your take? What's the end result up in Minnesota? When it comes to this fraud, it's Tim Walts going to jail. He sure as hell should be. Well, we're going to get to that in the next time. He sure is as hell should be. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Look, I think this, I think people see President Trump as a political monolith to some degree, and they think that he can snap his fingers. and make things happen and in some sense he can, but at the same time, there are agencies and the DOJ being one of them, right? And I'm not a huge fan of Pambondi. I'm not here. I think that she's, you know.
Starting point is 01:34:22 I think she's at very best, at the very best, she's incompetent. I think she might be retarded. Well, I'm just saying, at her best, she's incompetent. She's, she is your prototypical institutionalist, middle of the row conservative woman who spent lifetime in the legal system, which has been liberalized over 30 years, right? And so she believes in the institution, and she believes that there's a way to do this, that doesn't rough any
Starting point is 01:34:49 she thinks there's a logical way to win the argument. This is probably the problem with the entire conservative movement. Everybody thinks there's some type of intellectual highbrow debate. At some point in time, you've got to be ready to ball your fist up and just break the other dude's jaw. I don't know, because I'm a mixed martial artist. I kind of think that, yeah, we can debate, But at some point, and this is speaking to Pam Bondi, metaphorically, break their jaw. I mean, don't even make, because they will do it to you. They try to throw President Trump in prison for the rest of his life. That right there is why people are saying that Trump is bought and paid for.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Because they just watched him go through all this shit. Get shot. And now he's up there and he's playing with fucking kitty gloves on, you know, pacifying the political structure. Pulling ice agents out of Minnesota. The reason he's doing it is because Trump still believes that the foundational structure of America can be saved through the channels. And that's a, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's false right now. That's not real. We have a fucking problem in this country that can only be solved through force.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Okay. Violence is the gold standard of fucking every language. Okay. certain people, and by the way, if they don't drop the hammer, there will be mass violence eventually. That is what's happened historically. Against us. Well, against us and them, because we're going to give it back. True.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Yeah, but yes, 100%. Well, but I always go back to this, and we got to be very careful here because never forget, and we just experienced it up in Minnesota. And remember, George Floyd, 2020, George Floyd wasn't a, a saintly figure by any means. But I did think what Derek Chauvin did was wrong. His prosecution was political. And the fact that the governor and mayor made public statements
Starting point is 01:36:40 made it impossible for him to have a fair trial. That's just fact. Yeah, yeah. Okay, but my point of you bring that up is this. The, a pillar of the conservative movement is this thin blue line deal. Look at how many cops sided with these Democrat traders on this immigration argument up in Minnesota. It blew my mind.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Well, bro, 80% of them, wait a second, 80% of them took the shot, the cops, 80% of the military took the shot. This tells me one thing. Our law enforcement and our military are the best of us. They're the people who have the best relationship
Starting point is 01:37:19 with reality because what they do every day. That's right. So we should respect them. And I do. I love hanging out with military guys because they just know what real is real, right? In the fog of war, real becomes more real
Starting point is 01:37:29 than you can experience at home everyday life. But they have their own crisis of being led by the institution. So I'm not so sure that if the Democrats take back power, and then you also got to realize that the post-World War II Democrat liberal order has always placed a high premium on the military industrial complex. So it's grease in their palms, which is why you get so many former military guys that they put into these offices like Dan Crenshaw, who establishes a lot. in the back, but he's a Navy man. So I'm just saying if we let the Democrats take over.
Starting point is 01:38:05 We've already learned that lesson. We learned it during COVID. They're going to militarize their agenda this time. 100%. And that's why people are fucking pissed at Trump. Yeah. They understand what you're saying because they just went through COVID. And we saw motherfuckers get arrested for being at the fucking beach.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Okay. We saw that. And it's an unfair position for the police and the military to be in because they're being threatened with their, livelihoods to follow orders. And at some point in time, there's going to come a time for the police and military where they have to honestly ask themselves, what do I actually believe in? What did I take this oath?
Starting point is 01:38:44 And what do I stand for? And that's a very, very important thing for people to do if you're one of these people. Our military and our police have become a victim of Marxism. Yeah. Reducing the human existence down to price. even our military veterans with their pensions and their retirement and our law enforcement officers with the benefit. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:06 They are incentivized as well by the call to survival economically. For their own families. Which means the people who control the flow of money control them. Correct. And sacred honor, how am I going to ask? And think of this. And this is I'm just trying to be real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:23 All right. It's really, yeah, but I'm just trying to be real. No, bro. I love our military. I love our police officers. They get a raw deal. That's why I didn't bring people. to the police representative. I said the Federal Reserve. These people are working class people.
Starting point is 01:39:34 But how am I supposed to expect some 18-year-old girl who watches TikTok all day and has been brainwashed with feminism since the first day she stepped into school to have any sacred honor if our 20-year naval vets still brag about going over into a war that we should have never been in the first place. How can I expect this 20-year-old girl, this 20-year-old white liberal suburban, for lack of a better term, mentally impaired, right, brainwashed? How can I expect her to have any type of relationship with sacred honor, an idea like sacred honor? Yeah. If General Millie's backstabbing President Trump and talking to the Chinese. Yeah, right, right. You know, so you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. It's a problem.
Starting point is 01:40:24 That's dark. But it's easily, it's fixable. Because I think if you get a, this is where leadership is important. It's a crisis of leadership. It's a failure of citizenship, but a crisis of leadership. The citizens aren't going to rise to the occasion in this sense. Technology's too good. The high is too, too good.
Starting point is 01:40:40 But you can have leaders from the top down that start to fundamentally change the culture. Just like in the neighborhood, one person can do a disproportionate amount of damage. In politics, one person can have a disproportionate influence on the trajectory of things, where President Trump, again, needs to go max. But some of these military people in here, and even law enforcement, like the mayor here
Starting point is 01:41:02 in Minneapolis, I mean, you guys got to have some sacred honor. And if you don't, it's incumbent upon somebody higher than you to drop the hammer on your ass. Yeah. And, you know, it has to come to that ultimately because, again, our national mortal enemies, they're not having this problem. Yeah. China, not having this problem.
Starting point is 01:41:22 They, they, we are losing a war with China, right? They're laughing at us. We're not losing a war to China. We're losing a war to ourselves. True. But what I'm saying is the Chinese, 100%. They are very, they are much older civilization in ours, and they're much more patient. Their culture is patience.
Starting point is 01:41:42 And they view themselves as divine. They, they view their, they're very ethno-national. They view the Chinese race as a supreme, race. Well, they're not the only ones. These people, first of all, they view that they owe us to from World War II. Despite their feud with the Japanese and their hatred for the Japanese, that's still their part of the world, they view they owe us too, okay? They owe us from the opium wars. That's why you got fintinol flooding your streets through
Starting point is 01:42:10 Mexican proxies. These people are waiting for us to collapse. And see, Xi and the China, they're smart because they're saying, we're going to hold the power base together by total totalitarian means, as long as we continue to, you know, elucidate what appears to be arising China from when we went in in the 70s with Kissinger, the Chinese people, for the most part, will not revolt. That's how Ji could become president for life and have full-blown surveillance in their elections. You can't even vote in China the way you want to without the government knowing about it. Yeah, who's going to vote against that? Exactly. Right. So they have this shit sorted out in the crash course, in the collision course. with us. And this is, I tell you this all the time. Yes, America first, but we also have to consider our enemies and how we go about America first. Because you get all these libertarians, right? Like Massey, and I like Massey. I love his debt clock. I think Massey says a lot of things that are right. He's got more stones than a lot of people in the Congress, and I don't like the feud between him and President Trump. I feel like it's more personal than it is political because Massey and
Starting point is 01:43:19 and Rann, Massey, Rand Paul was the President Trump of, and we ran Mitt Romney instead. I mean, what an indictment of the Republican Party. Okay, but Massey, answer me this question, brother, and I've asked him, I've sent a message to his team, answer me this question. If you're telling me that the Congress is 90% plus, 95% plus bought and paid for by APEC and Israel's influence,
Starting point is 01:43:44 how are you going to tell the president to go to that same Congress to take military action? See, there's all these constant. institutionalists in there now from the libertarian wing that are saying, well, hold on, President Trump, even Rand. And I like Rand. I think he's a little squishy. His father was better. But, you know, Rand is a good one to the extent. And he comes out, well, they shouldn't wear masks. The ICE agents shouldn't be wearing masks. And I get it. But you only can make that comment if you have no consideration at all about what we face across the water. And the fact that we,
Starting point is 01:44:14 Rand, you, how is it? And again, I'm not being hypercritical of Rand. and Thomas Massey. But how is it that Rand spent two decades in politics there from Kentucky? And somehow Mitch McConnell comes out of there too. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. How is it that Tom? Who votes for Massey, Ray and Paul and Mitch McConnell? Nobody.
Starting point is 01:44:36 So the people in Kentucky must be just as fucked up as the people in Minnesota. Or it's not real. That's right. Okay. Now we're getting there. So my point is they're responsible for President. Trump's need to go max. So I don't want to hear this from any Republicans or Democrats.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Oh, he's violating the Constitution. You all didn't defend the Constitution when we could have applied the Constitution more practically. Now the Constitution is so blown out. Yeah. Look, dude, we're so far away from being what this country constitutionally is supposed to be that trying to behave as if that's a reality. is naive. It's not even naive. People are seeing it as evil. That's right. Amen. Like, and this is
Starting point is 01:45:26 why we're seeing, like, the average person, they understand that. Like, they see that. And when they see Trump not doing anything, they see, oh, well, fuck, he's in on it then. Well, and that's what they're seeing. And he has to own that. And with all due respect, Mr. President, I supported them as much as anybody else since 2022. Motherfugger, we all did. And, and, and look, I was, I got a billboard. I got three billboards made with his face and my face. I can't tell you how much heat I took. Well, why are you putting your face on a billboard? He's a racist. You know what? Shut your fucking mouth. Bill Clinton was a damn all of them were in on it. Okay. President Trump's the first one to say, wait a second. This deal, this deal we have going is messed up.
Starting point is 01:46:07 And the tax not taxing the tips, not taxing the overtime and not taxed social security. Groundbreaking economically. You got to give him his credit. But people are right to. to question whether or not he is in on it. I know. They're right to question it. Am I saying that he is? What I'm going to say is I think he's playing a very dangerous game. Let me,
Starting point is 01:46:28 you get four bullets zoom past your head and tell me you don't move different. And tell me how people, and this is the even more scary reality. I don't think you're, if your average American citizen doesn't understand how the Fed works, imagine trying to explain to them how the CIA works. They don't even realize that the CIA is its own country. They really think Tulsa Gabbard is running things over at the CIA.
Starting point is 01:46:52 She's got no control over that agency. They don't even understand. The CIA has a literal budget and you can fucking read it for making movies to glorify the CIA. Yes. Okay. Why would they need that? Why would they need that? Because they coined the term conspiracy theorists and they're masters of propaganda.
Starting point is 01:47:13 And they'll kill you. Or they'll have their buddies over at Mossad do it. I mean, it's just, he understands that he's in danger, and I think he's trying to thread a needle. When you're a president, and I think about this myself as being a U.S. Senate candidate, I'm a little different to President Trump in that I'm stupid enough and not read in to just say whatever the fuck I think. Yeah. Right. So I'm a little wonky that way, but I haven't been read into the top security clearance.
Starting point is 01:47:36 And there's probably a lot of fake material that he's being fed as well in his own administration. Yeah. We know that this is going. So I think he's trying to thread a needle. I think people got to give them some grace. I think I'd have a good idea of exactly what's happening. Go ahead. Yeah, well, I'd love to hear it.
Starting point is 01:47:53 It's going to have to go with this third topic. Let's go to three. Yeah, perfect. Epstein. Yeah, let's keep going, man. We got headline three guys. Let's get to the Epstein stuff. There's some shit going on there.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Yeah. So let's check in with it. Yeah. I've got some, you got some theories. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're all concerned as I always do. I know Royce has some theories too. Yeah, let's dive into it.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Just ask the internet. Yeah, that's right. I want to hear what you think. Yeah. Let's check it out, man. Yeah, no, Ian, no. No. It's not Ian.
Starting point is 01:48:22 No. Kingdom of Heaven. You seen that movie? Kingdom of Heaven. Good movie. Phenomenal. That's a great movie. That's where I'm at.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Phenomenal. That's where I'm at with shit. Bro. God wills it. That's wrong. Yeah. Give you a fucking mask? No, Luther.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Luther. All right. Yeah. When you're saying stuff like God wills, you might be on your way to the case. I'm going to bring you to the Catholic. No, I'm kidding. I'm with.
Starting point is 01:48:45 I'm with. whoever wants to put some heads on some fucking stagher. That's right. That's right. That's right. Hell yeah, man. Let's get to Headline 3, man. Let's get on the Epstein dialogue. There's some things happening.
Starting point is 01:48:57 So one of the biggest moves that just happened with this whole Epstein situation is that you now have some lawmakers that have been allowed to review the unredacted Epstein files. Okay. It's quite a bit. And along with that. That happened today? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Start happening today. Okay. And along with that. There's been a couple of things. So right now you got Thomas Massey. You got Rokana from California. They're among some of the members of Congress that are viewing the unredacted versions
Starting point is 01:49:25 of the Justice Department's files on Jeffrey Epstein today. And they were allowed to start reviewing that stuff this morning. And so that's been happening. At the same exact time, you got Galane Maxwell being deposed. Well, they attempted to depose her. And she's not saying shit, right? and she's tying everything that she's going to speak on, she's tying that to a clemency deal with Trump.
Starting point is 01:49:50 And Clinton. And Clinton. Yeah. Which is weird. Yeah. Which is weird. She said that she would, she would be able to clear Trump and Bill Clinton of any wrongdoing if she was granted clemency.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Right. Right. And then the lawyers made her plead the fifth. Mm-hmm. And that was literally it, right? And so you had the, some of the congressmen and women, they came out from that. And like, I mean, she didn't say anything.
Starting point is 01:50:11 She was just pleading the fifth. And that was it. Lawyers made a statement. And that was it. So really nothing else coming out of that. But she has committed to speaking honestly, quote-unquote, if she was granted clemency by President Donald Trump. And then one more big piece that came out today was Steve Bannon.
Starting point is 01:50:31 The Justice Department has moved to dismiss its long-running criminal case against Steve Bannon that tied to his refusal to testify before the congressional committee that investigated the J-6 riots. So you've got a lot of stuff happening there But with this Epstein stuff coming out The files that have been released thus far You have pretty much the entire government Of the UK collapsing it right now Like in real time that's happening
Starting point is 01:50:56 It should As it should As it should For other reasons besides this But like Yeah yeah I mean it's completely collapsing You know we've covered the Peter Mendelsoson stuff
Starting point is 01:51:09 That came out right The former ambassadors to the US He resigned I mean, that's just the start. I hope the people in the UK understand that this is like their one and only opportunity ever. Bro. To reclaim their fucking country. I'm not getting it again.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Yeah. They're not getting it. So the question becomes, once something collapse, what's replacing it? Exactly. And if they don't fucking take control and replace it with what they actually want, it's going to be bad for them. Yeah. It's going to be a lot hot snack bars. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:36 That's what it's going to do. It already is that, you know. So you have every corner. Dude. It's come, it's, it's, it's, it's, they're, culturally, they're gone. Yeah. Culturally, the UK's gone. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:51:48 We shall see. Now, with that, dude, also all of this stuff's coming out, right? I mean, you even got Prince William and Princess Catherine. They're deeply concerned about the Epstein revelations coming out, right? And I'm kind of like this dude. There's a clip of this dude. He was in the airport. I don't know if you guys have seen this clip.
Starting point is 01:52:05 I got this clip. This is kind of where I'm at. Check this out. Because the Epstein files have been released. All they all are acting normal. Epstein files have been released. And all they all are actual are actual normal. That's where I'm back.
Starting point is 01:52:24 That's what I'm back. He's saying all of y'all are acting normal. Yeah, he's like the Epstein files have been released and all of y'all are acting normal. It's Atlanta airport. That's kind of where I'm at, dude. Because I'm like, where the, what the fuck is happening? I think this was like yesterday. Yesterday before.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no shit. For those, but not, he said he was at that airport where that happened. What airport is this? Atlanta. You were there? Really?
Starting point is 01:52:58 That's crazy. Oh, yeah, you won. Congrats, bro. That's the BJJ guy. He's not that good. He got the gold. Shout out to the jiu-jitsu operators. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:09 He's not that big. No, but that's kind of where I'm at, dude. And so with that, though, a couple of, you know, a couple of key things, right? We've always explained it as like, this is happening, but what's happening over here, right? And with this whole Epstein stuff, it's happening inside of that. You have Thomas Massey, who was just on an interview, and he was asked specifically about some of the Epstein stuff that happened. Let's check this clip. It's just starting to gain some traction.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Tell me what you guys think. Also, I'm going to say this here on camera because it's important. One of Cash Patel's staff threatened my staff with a criminal investigation if we didn't straighten up and play ball. I was going to ask you about that, but since you brought it up and I didn't bring it up. Okay, you brought it up. And so... Smart dude. Like a criminal investigation having nothing to do, he said it was going to be a fraud.
Starting point is 01:54:12 We're going to investigate one of your staff for fraud. And he told another one of my staff this. If you guys don't straighten up, you know, if you want to play hardball, if this is how you want to play it or something like that, this member of your staff is going to get criminally investigated for fraud. A very specific threat. And so he's saying that this was in reference to the Epstein stuff
Starting point is 01:54:36 that one of Cash Patel's guys reached out to one of his guys and told him this is what was about to happen. if you guys don't straighten the fuck up. Okay. That's weird by itself. And then in another tweet that he just pushed out. Because like I said, we, and we've talked about this.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Like I don't know Massey personally, right? I've never met the guy. On the whole, he kind of seems legit. I like him. I don't have any reason to say I don't like him, but I don't know him personally, right? Just speak on his character or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:55:03 But he's, like I said, in the beginning, he's been one of the lawmakers that was allowed to start seeing some of this unredacted shit. And he tweeted this out today. This evening. couple of hours before we started sitting down record.
Starting point is 01:55:15 He says, quote, a sultan seems to have sent this. DOJ should make this public. And this is a piece of the Epstein files where this person, who is a sultan, right, according to Thomas Massey, because he knows who it was, has sent, received an email from Jeffrey Epstein saying, where are you? Are you okay? I loved the torture video to which this redacted Sultan replied,
Starting point is 01:55:48 I am in China. I will be in the U.S. second week of May. Okay. Now, you guys know how the internet works. The internet never deletes itself. There's wayback machines. You can search fucking political records and travel logs.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Okay, right now, they figured out who was. The working theory is, that this is actually B.B. Netanyahu. No. Because the timeline of this, I mean, anybody can go back to May of 2009. Okay. Bibi Netanyahu was in China and then the United States in the second week of May 2009.
Starting point is 01:56:29 What about Ahoo Barack? I haven't seen that late. Don't him and Netanyahu fucking travel together? They do, typically. And for people that don't understand, Aahubarak is the globalist. Right. It's not actually Netanyahu. Right.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Ahud Barak is the one who is promoting the migration into the Western culture, and that's all his shit. So it's very, this is not me sticking up for Netanyahu. I don't like him either. Yeah. So you got- Ehud, Barack and Jeffrey Epstein are peanut butter and jelly, bro. Right, right. So they have one without the other.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Yeah. So, I mean, it's interesting, right? And so Massey pushes this out. I would he call him a sultan? I don't know. That piece I don't know. Yeah. That piece I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:15 That's weird. It's fucking, but I know this. There's some real cryptic language. You got to do, in black and white, telling you that he likes the torture videos that allegedly this dude fucking sent him. I'm sorry, that's more than just a implication. That's more, like, you're fucking in it.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Who the fuck is this guy? Why is this being redacted? Fucking released this name. Like, this isn't some ambiguous fucking, could be misinterpreted, could be, like, that's pretty fucking clear if you ask me. It could also be he saw a clip on the internet of
Starting point is 01:57:49 some fucking depraved shit like the rest of us have all seen and shared it with him. It's possible. It's possible. Okay? The problem is that we don't know. Yeah. You understand? Like how many times have you and I sent videos said, oh, the dude got his fucking face blown off? Check this out.
Starting point is 01:58:06 No, I get it. But why redact it? I get it. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Well, I want to hear your theories. Well, are you doing? Last little piece. Last little piece because to your body, we talked a little bit earlier, right? This last little piece on this dude is fucking weird. It just got revealed, okay,
Starting point is 01:58:23 that there was a $100,000 check from the Tides Foundation to Galane Maxwell's Terramar project. Okay? That same foundation is also connected to the Super Bowl commercial that featured all of those, oh, BB Netanyahu, guys,
Starting point is 01:58:44 BBNNN Yahoo. The audio. cut out. Holy moment. Yeah. Right. Right. All right. Bro. I can tell you about how it's getting kicked off the streams and shit. I'll tell you after the show. So, so, so that same foundation, the Tide's foundation is the same foundation that's also connected to the Super Bowl commercial that featured all of these Epstein victims, right? Which was produced by a company called World Without Exploitation. It's a project operating under the Tide Center. The Tide Center is funny.
Starting point is 01:59:17 by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and George Sorrows Open Society Foundation. Jesus. So the Tides Foundation and the Tide Center, there's separate entities operating under the same network. So that commercial that was played during the Super Bowl, right,
Starting point is 01:59:33 with all these victims of Jeffrey Epstein, it's just weird. I think that that is fucking weird that allegedly some abusers and now you're working with the Vick, now, Now you're working with the victims. How does that make sense?
Starting point is 01:59:50 After years of being kept apart. Well, the easy answer on that one is it's crazy and inappropriate should be unacceptable. But that is typically how this global corporate community works going all the way back to what I said in the beginning. Because remember when the tobacco companies did the same thing and they funded all of the anti-tobacco ads. This is how the corporation, they actually think that's an appeasement, which makes them even more sick and twisted. It's fucked up. Yeah. So they think, so what you're saying is they know that people are going to figure out that they're funding this and that people are going to say, well, why would they fund this if they're guilty?
Starting point is 02:00:28 No, I think even more they're just saying we're doing what we can. This is a bad situation and we don't really know who did what because the files are redacted, but we're trying to make amends. And you got to think maybe they can convince. It's not about convincing the public because if they can keep this. stuff redacted as long as possible. The only people they have to convince are these so it's like plausible liability. They're able to say. The people inside the
Starting point is 02:00:52 administration. What do you mean us? We funded the fucking ad on the Super Bowl. They're just trying to paper it over. It ain't going to work. I mean, this is too deep. This ain't the type of thing that that's going to work. But you don't know how they're going to try and fence it to the public. Right. You know, so it's... I see it's control on both sides of the fucking propaganda. I hadn't seen this. You haven't seen it? Oh yeah. This
Starting point is 02:01:12 should just, I mean, this is fresh off the press, baby. That's really weird. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know, dude. There's a lot of here. I think this true. Yeah, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:20 What you got on it, doc? Well, I mean, this goes back to what we're talking about with Trump. You know, I agree. So everybody's pissed at Trump right now. That's just the reality. Okay. And I agree with you that he's trying to thread the needle in some way, shape, or form. But I also.
Starting point is 02:01:49 believe that they this is what I see happening dude like I just see shit from a different angle than everybody else because I live in strategy world that's what I do for my companies the way I think about what's going on and the way I see it and I am not saying that this is what's going on I'm saying this is the way I see it Trump is not a fucking idiot contrary to what people want to say about him or this or that the dude's smart and he's very strategically smart. And when we look at what just happened with the drop of three million files, okay, his for the last seven years that this has been talked about, and it's been talked about by other people for much longer, Alex Jones been talking about it for 20 years, all right?
Starting point is 02:02:48 But it's gathered steam over the last six, seven years. When I have had to to go, and I'm going to give you a practical example about this, when I have had discussions with people who are not very knowledgeable about what's going on, and I look at them and I say, hey, there's a fucking pedophile blackmail ring where kids are being harvested, farm, tortured, and sometimes eaten. Okay, what the fuck do you think that the people outside of the quote unquote know think when I say that to them? Yeah, you're fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:03:25 You're fucking insane, bro. You've lost your goddamn mind. You are, Andy, what are you, what are you, what do you? Like, dude, I've had successful friends of mine. People that you know their names, look at me and be like, bro. Like, you need to touch some grass, man. Like, it's so unbelievable and it's so bad that a normal person can't comprehend it. It'll break their fucking structure of what they believe reality to be.
Starting point is 02:03:54 ours broke a long time ago, which is what it's allowed us to question historical events and to look into things and to go back to 1913 and what happened in World War I and World War II and all of these things. And it's allowed us to see the propaganda for what it is. The regular person has not had that yet. They have not had that understanding that everything that they believe is a fucking lie. They don't get it. So when you say this to these people, they think you're fucking crazy. Okay. Now, what's happened over the last week or so that has changed that?
Starting point is 02:04:36 Oh, Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files. Okay? And anybody with any reading or actual comprehension skill can go into the Epstein files right now and see that none of the shit that Donald Trump's name is on is actually anything to have to do with kids or any of this fucking crazy shit, okay? But it needs to be in there for the simple reason that it forces everybody else to say, holy shit. This is real, okay?
Starting point is 02:05:12 So you have half of the Epstein files with three million pages. You got another half that's yet to drop. This drops on people, and it forces everybody outside the fucking, quote, unquote, conspiracy circle to say, holy shit, this might be real. Yeah, right. Okay. And the people on the left are gobbling it the fuck up now because they hate Trump so
Starting point is 02:05:34 bad. They want to get Trump no matter what. But what that's done is that's forced them to accept this is real. Okay. Now, if you got everybody looking at it and saying, oh, it's real and you're holding back three million documents. And by the way, for people who kind of know what's been going on, the really bad shit hasn't come out.
Starting point is 02:05:57 No. Okay. And then they drop that on everybody. We're going to have total public outrage, which gives Trump the position, if he so chooses, to hold those people accountable outside of the typical fucking standard of law or the Constitution. People are demanding. Okay? Because people are going to say they are fucking killing, fucking kids.
Starting point is 02:06:23 I don't care what you have to do. put these people on fucking stakes. The temperature has to be that for him to hold those people accountable. If he were to try to come in on day one and arrest everybody the way that people wanted him to, everybody in the whole world would have been saying, he's a dictator, he's fucking taking over the country. We'd have NATO here. We'd have outside forces aligning with NATO.
Starting point is 02:06:49 And we'd have a fucking military force on this country to liberate us. Okay? What I believe is actually happening is that the table is being set for accountability. And if I'm wrong, we're going to know in 30 days. Okay. And if I'm wrong, then that means that we're going to have to do it as men. I'm okay with that. But you have to understand.
Starting point is 02:07:16 You can't hold people accountable. No government system that's ever existed over the course of human history took any severe action towards the other side of the government without intense public pressure. Okay? And so this is why when people say nothing's going to happen, it's such a terrible thing to say because you're actually creating a scenario where nothing will happen by saying nothing's going to happen. What needs to happen in this country, if we want accountability, there needs to be so much
Starting point is 02:07:51 public pressure for accountability that the person, whether it's Trump or whoever, replace Trump with somebody else you'd like or don't like. It doesn't matter. If it was Andy Fasella as president and I walked in on first day and I arrested everybody, the same outcome would happen. I, as the leader, would have to create public fucking demand in order for me to take the action necessary to solve the problem. If you look at what happened over the weekend with the tax video or the stolen election,
Starting point is 02:08:28 video. Okay. And you look at what, what happened. This is exactly the same thing on a different issue where they got people enraged, but now people are looking. All right. Fuck a ditty post. Okay. Now, what that is is that's just a play on how public perception works nowadays. Okay. Look at all the Instagram influencers. Look at all the social. How do they, how do they get their fucking clout. They start drama. They start beef. They fucking, they play the audience. Okay, look at how Jake Paul's created this amazing fucking brand for his boxing. It's, he's created a controversy. People watch him fight. Do you know, by the way, uh, that Jake Paul and Donald Trump are pretty fucking tight. Just so you know. Okay. So when we think about how he's playing public perception,
Starting point is 02:09:23 in my opinion, there's really only one way to hold those. people accountable and it seems to be unfolding in my opinion now I could be wrong and if I'm wrong and these child predators and these murderers and these blackmailers are now held accountable then we will have to do it as American men that is real shit because I like everybody else who has decency in their heart is I cannot live in a country that is ruled by people who do such things I refuse to and we as men need to understand two things right now. One, we should be putting pressure on Trump for accountability.
Starting point is 02:10:05 And two, we should be accepting the reality that this could be a situation where we have to get our fucking hands dirty for real if it doesn't happen. Amen. Okay. That's all I'm saying. And that's not me polishing Trump's nuts. That's not me saying he's playing 70 chess. This is basic strategy that should be able to be seen by people. But, you know, I understand why they can't because they don't live in a strategic mindset 24 hours a day.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Right. So that's what I see happening. And it seems to be playing out more and more every day. And our role in this is to be loud and vocal and tell him that this is what the fuck we want, bro. The reason we're pissed at you is not because of any other reason that you're not going hard enough, dude. And you're making us feel like you are part of the fucking cabal that you've, sworn to drain. Okay. And we've lost hope in that. And that's why people are pissed at him. I think personally, if Trump were to go hard and he were to hold these people accountable,
Starting point is 02:11:14 you would see his approval rating go to fucking 98%. When we look at what happened post 9-11, okay? The day after 9-11, everybody was an American. It was so outrageous, so terrible. and we all sought that we did not give a single fuck how they were held accountable. All we knew is that we wanted fucking blood. Come to find out, the whole thing was fucking engineered. Okay? And what did we do? Oh, we went to war for 20 motherfucking years and killed millions of innocent people on the idea of something that...
Starting point is 02:11:52 Somebody fucked us. Okay. So if he can build that public outrage around something that's true, he will be just fight in holding the accountability. There's no other way for him to have done it. Okay, really think about this. Okay, and you can be critical of Trump, and I am. Dude, if he doesn't do it, he's the worst motherfucking president that ever walked
Starting point is 02:12:13 in the face of the earth. He will go down in history as the man who fucking lost America. And you can argue whether Trump is a good guy or a bad guy or this or that. But one thing we all know about Trump is Trump loves fucking Trump. And I can promise you a deep part of who he is. wants to be known as the greatest American president ever. And we have to let him know that if you are going to be considered
Starting point is 02:12:38 the greatest American president ever, you are going to have to follow through on all of the promises that you made to free us from this corrupt shit. That's it. Okay? That's what I personally see. And I know a lot of people are going to clip this out of context
Starting point is 02:12:55 and they're going to say, Andy's fucking a maga nut sucker. No, I'm not. At all. I'm not at all. I am pro freedom and I am a patriot and I believe that our country by design when run by design is a perfect fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking. Aftain thing. And we are dealing with a fucking infectious disease that has to be cut out or we will die. And that's what we're dealing with now. And I think people should be enraged about this Epstein shit. I think people should stay. I think people should stay. And I think they need to let President Trump know through their voice and not in a not in the way that people do where they're just like fuck this motherfucker. I think it needs to be like, hey, we demand this. And if you don't do it, we're going to fucking do it. And that needs to be the fucking message.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Because I'm going to tell you right now and I mean this shit. If they are not held accountable, I will be the first motherfucker out there because, dude, I'm not going to sit in front of and be judged by God. God can say a lot of things about me. He could say all kinds of shit, but one thing he's not going to fucking say is that you look the other way when fucking little kids and women and shit were raped and murdered and fucking and then
Starting point is 02:14:13 you didn't do shit. I'm not doing that. I don't care what it cost me. Amen. Yeah. Amen. So that when you ask like what I see, that's what I see. I think he knows the 250th anniversary of America is coming up.
Starting point is 02:14:29 I think his goal is to have his mission accomplished by then, quote unquote. And I think we're on a limited time frame. And I think if we don't see some shit happen in the next few months, I think we're going to know what needs to be done and we're going to have to fucking do it. That's what I think. Yeah. That was legendary rant.
Starting point is 02:14:51 Yeah. I mean, that's how I see it. And I get heat. No, I'm serious. I get heat on it all the time because people are like, oh, you're not giving them a chance or you're too pro this. No, I'm not anything, bro. I'm a fucking dude who runs a company who wants Americans to win, who wants Americans to be great, who wants to not get fucking taxed into oblivion, who wants our citizens to not get taxed
Starting point is 02:15:14 in oblivion and be profitable and have what we were promised, which is the land of opportunity and that all men are created equal and they should all have equal opportunity. Like, I fucking believe that shit to my core. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I don't have a political affiliation. Did I support Trump? Yeah, absolutely. I voted for Trump three times.
Starting point is 02:15:34 Would I vote for Trump how Trump's being right now? Fuck no. I wouldn't. But I also know because I've read every single book that there is to read about Donald Trump. I was studying him as a businessman before he was ever a politician. If you go read his book, there's a book called Think Big and Kick Ass. It's one of the best business books ever fucking written. There is an entire chapter written about revenge.
Starting point is 02:15:57 he is not a look the other way motherfucker he's not that guy this is a guy who wrote a whole book i don't know a single other author i've read thousands of books about business and winning and all this shit you know what they all say don't worry about revenge the best revenge is success that's what they all say you know what trump says fuck that kill him that's what he says so i think there's a lot of things happening here at the same time and Royce to your point I think he's trying to thread the needle to get to a point to where he can do the thing that he promised that he would do and if he doesn't do it I'm going to say this until I'm blue in the face we have to do it we have to do it and you have to start getting ready now you have to start preparing now you got to prepare your mind you got to prepare
Starting point is 02:16:47 your body you got to prepare your fucking soul and you got to be ready to fight for what the fuck you stand for whatever the fuck that means. So that's real. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I look, you know, there's a couple scenarios in my opinion that play out here. The first one is that President Trump is aware of more than what we see. Absolutely. And even furthermore, it's totally possible that he and other people who are in his cohort
Starting point is 02:17:19 have been informing on Epstein that there's been an internal battle happen because this whole Epstein thing I mean it glows like a moon rock I mean there's so there are so many competing intelligence agencies in here and you got MBS
Starting point is 02:17:37 and you got maybe BB and you got definitely BB in Israel but you got China I mean he was just connected to so much you got to think at some point he became a proxy for competing intelligence agency Correct. And so if that's the case, then it's completely possible that somebody within ours,
Starting point is 02:17:54 or maybe in others around the world, we're fighting a battle and laying traps or trying to trap. And we're trying to. A thousand. I don't think that's even possible. I think that's 100% accurate. So if that's the case, then it's possible that, like you said, President Trump's aware of and read into more things than most people are. Yeah. And for whatever reasons, they say national security.
Starting point is 02:18:15 But really it's, you know, we can't let the people of Saudi Arabia. run a coup on MBS in the middle of a trade war with China and let the what's left of the Petro Dollar Alliance fall because the entire economy will come to a halt. I'm not saying it's okay. No, no, no. I think you're saying exactly. I'm saying how they think. That plays into what I'm saying too.
Starting point is 02:18:37 For sure. Because when you look at the moves that he's made with Venezuela and you look at the moves that he's made with Greenland and you look at these moves, okay. Breaking from all those alliances. Here's what you got to remember. He understands that when he does what the fuck we're talking about doing that there's a chance that all the other countries might want to fucking come here that's right for war okay because their systems will collapse as a result we're already
Starting point is 02:19:00 seeing it in english yeah right okay he's on his way so everybody needs to calm the fuck down in terms of he's bought and paid for and they need to start considering that we as a functional Democratic Republic society things don't happen unless there's pressure pressure forces outcomes okay and if we sit on the internet
Starting point is 02:19:25 and we say nothing's gonna fucking happen you know what's going to happen nothing that's right because that I would go so far to say that people who say nothing's going to happen they don't want anything to happen they are either stupid or in on it or they are in on it yes okay because they are trying to
Starting point is 02:19:41 I think a lot of the people who say oh nothing's to happen are bots that they're trying to quell the the the the fucking outcry you wouldn't know if their bots or not because they're fucking tweeting from anonymous that's a whole other thing the last i was going to say that i think there's going to be a convergence here of multiple multiple crisis at the same time where if the midterms aren't held as sure as the turning of the earth president trump will be impeached and they will use this as the means to impeach him And that's why I think it's going to happen. Let me say this about Democrats.
Starting point is 02:20:19 And it is just, again, President Trump has to go max. Part of going max is the accountability on the Epstein deal. And he's got to, listen, if Epstein was a part of facilitating him having sex with some women who were 18 and over, just come out and say that. Yeah. Just come to the White House. And you know what? This is what me and Epstein. This is our relationship.
Starting point is 02:20:43 modeling agency there was some 18 year old 19 year old girls I was a little bit too old it's a little inappropriate but hey I did what I did I didn't I wasn't a part of any child torture or anything that probably needs to happen sooner than later if that's the case I don't think he did that yeah I don't think he did either but it needs to happen nonetheless he was a motherfucker that kicked him out bro it started the whole thing and I know any any help the feds but what I'm saying is it needs to be said yeah for the optics if you care about the optics yeah if you're a bad like us you don't care about the optics then don't care about the optics then don't care about the optics Yeah. I said this about the ICE deal, and I want to draw this connection. Because with the immigration issue, and this is connected because this is all happening at once now. You got immigration, you got Epstein, you got the elections that, again, to me, the Epstein thing becomes a MacGuffin for the elections not being secure. When all said and done, you know, McGuffin is, McGuffin is like the Maltese falcon, right? It's meant to drive the story forward, but it's not really what the plot is about in Maltese.
Starting point is 02:21:43 he's falcon, there is no falcon, right? Okay, the elections aren't secure. Yeah. I mean, we're burning daylight and they're not, it doesn't look like they're going to end up being secure. Unless we nationalized it, which is going to be considered an act of unconstitutional tyranny, and that plays into the argument about immigration tyranny.
Starting point is 02:22:03 It's one after, you see the Democrats already doing it. As soon as Bannon said, put those ICE agents at the polls, Rachel Maddow lost their mind and said, oh my goodness, they're going to try and stick. this election by intimidating people not to vote. No, no, no. She's projecting. I understand.
Starting point is 02:22:20 I was getting to, wait a second. I was getting there. I was getting there. Wait a second. This is what I need people to understand and realize, especially on the right. Yes, we want to know everything that there is to know about these Epstein files. There cannot be a society, especially an American society, that allows us to go unchecked. It just can't happen.
Starting point is 02:22:41 It's unacceptable. As a matter of national honor and sacred honor, we can't have a functioning republic or a nation that has any, any favor if we allowed this to go unchecked. However, I don't give any Democrats a single aoda of credibility in their fake outrage up and down the line from illegal immigration to trans to trans discrimination to Epstein to Epstein accountability. Don't tell me, I don't want to hear from the group of people who wanted to mutilate our children and have tried to normalize minor attracted people that now Epstein's going to be the hill they die on. Everything that the communists and the Marxists scrutinize is a projection and a deflection. And we have to understand that we're fighting an internal civil war battle asymmetrical with real boots on the ground, that's Antifa, but also ideological and informational where they're going to try and
Starting point is 02:23:41 hit us over, you know, they're going to hit us both ways. They're going to split the atom. They're going to say, like they're doing now. Well, tell me how you feel about your president being a pedophile. You all are pedophiles. Yeah, you're right. So I'm not, you know, you can play that game, but I'm going to call the balls and strikes on it. If you're a communist or leftist or you believed have advocated for for the last 10 years that we should be pushing transgender sexual content in the public school libraries of grade school children, I don't want to hear your opinion on Epstein. Let me talk to some trad Catholics, okay, who want to hold the sexual morality of our society intact. I'll listen to their opinion on Epstein and there are some
Starting point is 02:24:21 further, right? We don't go too high there. But you know what I mean? On the ground, yeah. But you know I'm saying. I'm not going to listen to these people who proliferated sexual perversion about this situation. Let's a McGuffin for them. For them. Not for you. A hundred percent, bro. We had the man who wrote you see an agenda and agenda too yes okay Curtis Bowers Curtis Bowers who wrote those
Starting point is 02:24:46 he is the world's leading expert on communism at this time he's been on the show two or three times the communist work very simply three steps forward one step back they push push push when they get enough push back they go back then they wait for everybody
Starting point is 02:25:04 calm down then they push push push when we watch what's happened over the last decade. That's exactly what they've done, which is why people don't trust Trump right now because they think that he's part of that. One step back. Yes.
Starting point is 02:25:17 We're just trying to satisfy you guys by putting him in there, right? Which at this point in time... Could be. Yes. Catherine Austin Fitz thinks so. Yeah. Catherine Austin Fitz said that Trump was selected to, to usher in the digital ID because the liberals
Starting point is 02:25:34 weren't doing it quick enough. Bro. And a lot of the fucking shit that's happening. And the SAVE Act does have a digital ID in it. They need to take that out before they pass it. And that's the people who are strongly anti-Trump. That's why. That's why they believe that he's bought into it
Starting point is 02:25:48 because they're pushing the Palantir, surveillance state, all this shit, which by the way, I agree with them on. You know? But I also feel like we're already in there. You know what I'm saying? We have been for a long time. That's what Snowden was trying to tell us.
Starting point is 02:26:02 That's right. So I don't know. I actually do think, Look, I think we're in this type of position as a country. Again, President Trump, I'm 34 years old. And one day me and you may have to step in and run for, run for president or something like that. But what I'm saying is until that time comes,
Starting point is 02:26:23 President Trump is the best hope that we have politically. Now if we want to go to a... That's why the pressure has to go on them. Yes, no doubt. Oh, keep it on 1,000%. But if we want to go to the mattresses as self-government, sovereign citizens and say, you know, we're gonna do more of a Thomas Jefferson
Starting point is 02:26:41 a Jeffersonian approach to restructure this thing. A, I don't know that I trust all these people. No. I trust you. I trust some people, but what I'm saying is some of these people, you know, it's like you can have an evolution or revolution. And right now this country needs to evolve. It's like with AI, the whole apprehension of AI should be this.
Starting point is 02:27:06 We don't see a single piece of evidence that a broad majority of American citizens or citizens all over the world have their mind together, are rap-tight. So why would we let those people map their minds onto the robots? It's just, it's, you're asking for big trouble. I believe the AI came out intentionally,
Starting point is 02:27:27 intentionally for this Epstein situation. Oh, I was just gonna tell, I was gonna say that the- All these crimes are gonna come out, Yes. And now we're going to be like, well, is that fucking AI? Is that real? Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:41 I can't even tell. I put a couple clips out and I have people in the comments on Facebook, from my Facebook saying, dude, this is AI. I'm in the comments going, I'm real, motherfucker. What are you talking about? But it's only in the last six months that AI has gotten that good, by the way. That is the real threat on the horizon, AI. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:58 And the usherning of digital ID is the real threat and danger. Epstein and this, again, back to the Democrats. And I don't make a Democrat Republican because I could just as easy run independent or there could be a third party. The problem is that the system doesn't allow for those things to have any traction. But Epstein does seem to be the connective tissue of a globalist political philosophy and structure.
Starting point is 02:28:24 And that was just more. The leftist, the Rachel Maddow's, the MSNBCs, they can try and play however they want to, but the bottom line is this sort of internationalism that everybody subscribed to since World War II leads to a Jeffrey Epstein being able to have dual citizenship and he's going to this country and that country he's meeting with this leader and that leader
Starting point is 02:28:47 and it's about finance and stocks and guys we need to bring it on home regardless of what ends up happening with this Jeffrey Epstein deal America first must be there are two things that people must go into the midterms with as a you know, know, determining factors of who they support. Are they America first?
Starting point is 02:29:10 Can they be born paid for? That's it. Simple. That is it. That is it. Not for fucking sale. That's it, bro. That's it.
Starting point is 02:29:17 If I ever ran for shit, that'd be my fucking slogan. Not for fucking sale. You might not like me. You might not like everything I say. You might not like everything I do. But you can know that I'm doing it with the intent of making the country better, not for fucking Israel or fucking whoever's paying me. Like, I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 02:29:33 And if we could edge, Dude, it's such a great point you're making. This can go a couple different ways still. The peaceful way, there's three options, really, okay? Well, there's four. One, we put pressure on Trump and he does it. Okay? Two, voters become intelligent enough to stop voting for people who are bought and paid for,
Starting point is 02:29:56 which that's going to take some re-education. Yes. All right. Three, we could fucking try to physically take over, which is going to be challenging because of what we said about the police and military. So those people would have to wake up and say, hey, I stand with the people, not stand with the government. Or four, we fucking lose.
Starting point is 02:30:19 Those are the four options. I don't think there's another option. So, you know, it's kind of an order like in business, how I would look at this. Okay, what's the best case scenario? The best case scenario is to put the pressure on Trump and hope that he fucking does it. the next best case scenario is to make sure that people do exactly what you just said where they vote for America first and people that are not bought and paid for. If that doesn't work, that's because each one of these doubt has considerations and assumptions
Starting point is 02:30:47 that we don't know to be true. So because if we say, okay, well, let's re-educate the voters, then we have to then put our faith in the election system which doesn't seem secure. Right. Right. At each trough, you have more unintended consequences. Correct. Correct.
Starting point is 02:31:01 And that, you know, it's a, it's a flow chart of best, better, not so good. You know what I'm saying? Right. Really bad. Yeah. But we have to prepare in business for worst case scenario. So if this were, let's just say this were America, my little business here, I would tell the guys, I would say your job right now is to put pressure on the fucking, on this person, because they have the ability to
Starting point is 02:31:31 to correct it or not vocally however you need to okay not not violently vocally and then you need to go out and you need to get in shape and you do start learning how to do shit yeah prepare for the worst that's right yeah and that's that's the message that we need to be sending to american men that's what i think amen that's real man guys jump into this comment jump jump into this conversation let us under down in the comments yeah well what you guys think man look some heavy shit yeah it's It's, you know what, I think? I think it's fucking awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:07 What a time to be alive. That's what I'm saying. Yes. I think it's fucking awesome. I think it sucks. I think there's a lot. I think I'd rather be doing other shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:16 But then when I'm at home at night and I'm a little demoralized and I feel the pressure because, dude, I mean, Royce, you do too. When you put yourself out the way that you have or the way that I have or the way that he has, there's a lot of pressure, bro. I'm worried about exploding pages, but I'll say that next time. I think these guys, all of our crew is in on that. They understand. I'll save that for the next time I come back.
Starting point is 02:32:38 Yeah, and we could fucking, we could. I swear, no, I was up last night. Bro. I was laying in my bed, right? And my phone was like just, you know, because I'm in the hotel, right here. Yeah, yeah. And the phone was like close to me on the bed.
Starting point is 02:32:51 And I was watching Dan Wong talk about China. Yeah. And, you know, he made an excellent point. He said, China is ruled by engineers. America is ruled by lawyers. Yeah. by lawyers, ruled by engineer versus rule by lawyers. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:04 And that's part of our problem. We have an over litigious society and a corrupt legal system. Correct. Which is how you get an Epstein first. But anyway, so I'm looking at my phone and I'm just thinking, is this motherfucker going to explode on me one day? And just blow my whole face and my abdomen out of my, you know, out of my body. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:33:24 I'm just. It might. It might. That's a real thing. But dude, that's what I'm saying. Look, bro, people don't realize this. Okay, when I started talking about this, just like when I started my business, I accepted what it was going to take to get the result. Okay, when I first started talking about this shit, I knew that people were going to hate me.
Starting point is 02:33:45 I knew that I was going to have to deal with shit. I knew all of these things. I accepted it up front. And I think American men need to do some accepting of reality on their own and realize that for us to get this fucker back on track, it's going to take. some participation. Some inconvenience. It's going to take some inconvenience. And it's never going to be easier than it is right now.
Starting point is 02:34:10 And the thing that we can do now is to let Donald Trump know, motherfucker, we elected you three fucking times. All of us have taken so much shit for you, bro. Do what you said you were going to do. And that should be the message. And I do. think that knowing Trump's genius about branding and I think he wants to have this done by July 4th I think he wants to celebrate the new independence of the United States of America
Starting point is 02:34:45 and I think he wants to be the hero and that's what I think so we're going to know soon we need to participate and we need to prepare that's what I think I love it man yeah I love it Make Minnesota Grady. You know, what's funny is I'll put some up on my site, Roycewhite.U.S. My Senate site, I'll put some up there. But I got it from a small BPOU in Minnesota up in northern Minnesota, and I was at a governor's form, and they just handed me one. They were like, man, will you wear this hat?
Starting point is 02:35:24 And I love that hat. And I've been wearing it ever since. Make Minnesota Grading. And, you know, my whole thing is this. And we have to get ready for this as well. Because I do think, I do think this. Now, keep in mind with everything I said, I'm also a bit of an extremist.
Starting point is 02:35:40 Well, we're out there. We're way over there. We're way over there in what they call the unelectable zone, which is probably why we should run for office, right? All the unelectable people should step up at front center. But I do think that America has a divine calling as a nation. In scripture, nations do have divine calling. Now, you can lose that favor as well.
Starting point is 02:36:05 But I do think that what's written in our founding do, documents has the DNA of a Christian evolution and at least to be codified in government, right? If you look at Israel in the time that Jesus walked and what was codified then in the Roman Empire and then, you know, there was a lot of corruption in the Roman Empire. Then you get the Anglican Church in Great Britain, which was a nightmare by the end. And we had to revolt and declare our independence from them. And then you get America. I do think that there's something in American DNA that longs for the truth and longs for freedom. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:39 No matter what tyranny. Revolution's in our blood. Yes. No matter what tyranny befalls us, we will eventually rise up. The question is, how much suffering are we going to have to go through before we rise? I totally agree. Okay. So with that being said, I do feel like this next political season, you know, of 2026 will be a judgment
Starting point is 02:37:07 on us as a country. It's going to be a judgment on us in that, you know, and I tell my, if I can leave people with anything, even if the elections are not secure and rigged, you still have to get out there. Correct. You have to force them to cheat. You have to force them to feel the spirit and the pressure of the will of the people. And it does become harder to cheat the more people show up. That's a fact. But in 2024, with the Satanus and communists, full hand around our throat as a nation. 32 million Christians didn't vote. In Minnesota alone, it's estimated a million, conservatively, a million conservatives and Christians of voter age did not vote in the 2024 presidential election.
Starting point is 02:38:01 This is going to be a judgment on Christians. And I'm not saying if you don't believe in Christ or you're not a Christian, you don't believe, You don't believe in God or you're an atheist libertarian that you're not welcome to the party. All I'm saying is that I think the dividing line has gotten pretty clear when an international sex ring is passing emails about torturing kids. So if we can't, if we can't then draw that,
Starting point is 02:38:26 look, even if I'm an atheist. If I don't like child sex torture, I'm probably going to have to fall in with the Christians. Unless there are some Christians who are in on it and then we're going to dump them back in with the Satanus. So it's a restructuring. But people have to realize if we don't, if after Charlie Kirk's brutally assassinated in this entire country of Christians gets together locks hands and sings kumbaya
Starting point is 02:38:50 and then you don't come out to participate in the most consequential political season in our 250 year history, then the problem isn't with Muslims. It's not with communists. It's not with liberals. It's not even with pedophiles. the problem is with Christians. Apathetic, lazy, 501C3 Christians.
Starting point is 02:39:14 I'll give you an example. And I hesitate to say this, but I do think that the post-enlightment Christianity is such a watered-down version of Christianity. We are susceptible right now, culturally as a Christian community, because our first instinct is to turn the other cheek
Starting point is 02:39:33 and let God sort everything out in the afterlife. It's not even what the Bible calls for. It's not what it calls for. But that's what they teach. We have to throw that out right now. Christian Christian Inquisition. And I don't mean that we need to go purse to people. I mean, we need to be ready.
Starting point is 02:39:47 Christians need to be ready for war this time. We can't just sit in our people. Charlie, that was great. Everybody sang and cried. And when I go to one of these Protestant, no offense, Mr. Lutheran, man. But when I go to some of these Protestant services, everybody's holding their hands up and they're crying and they're swaying. And it's just real emotional and real poetic.
Starting point is 02:40:05 But these Muslims, they're ready to throw down. These Marxists, these antifas, they're ready to throw down. Dude, it's real simple. Yeah. Okay, you have the extreme Muslims that talk openly about exterminating Christians. That's right. Okay, that's not all Muslims, it's the extremes. You also have the extreme Jews saying the same shit.
Starting point is 02:40:27 Okay, people need to realize, and that's not all Jews, okay? People need to realize, I don't see Christian. I don't, I've never heard the most extreme. Christian. I've never heard them say, we need to fucking kill all the Muslims or we need to kill all the that's not. But those are said by these other groups in the extreme circles, that should be a red flag for people. Amen. Okay. This is real shit. Most people don't think, and I'm going to hit your point on the voter thing too in a second, because I have said I'm not going to vote, but I said it out of anger because I was pissed. People don't think that Satanism is a real thing. I know. They think it's
Starting point is 02:41:05 fucking, they think it's an adjective for evil. They think it's a synonym for evil. Oh, that's a bad person. So they're Satanist. No, there are people that literally believe in human sacrifice, in power by all means, in deception. And these people have, over the last 600 years, found themselves embedded in places of power that control society. And that is a real thing that you can trace all the way back 12,000 years ago to the beginning of quote unquote humanity in Samaria. Okay? This is real. This is not bullshit.
Starting point is 02:41:49 And people think it's fucking fake. And that's a big problem. And what do they say that the devil's greatest fucking feat was? To convince people that he wasn't real. And they're right up in your face with is my point. Look at Epstein with the bank account named after Ball, the child sacrificing demon and see this is what I meant about the leftist they're not well that got debunked but well there's plenty of other but yeah the whole yeah the whole symbology the whole the whole thing with Epstein is a satanic correct uh ideology correct and the left has embraced it so I'm not I'm not taking their Epstein you know bull yeah I'm just not buying it we'll be the ones to
Starting point is 02:42:27 prosecute Epstein because we believe in that moral standard that's right right and and but you know the the problem with Christians again I'll say this again the problem with Christians right now is we believe that we should leave all of the you know rough stuff to God and and and it's just he doesn't even tell you to do that you know it's just not it's not going to work it's just it's not going to work that way we have to be ready you know what would make me feel good if out of response to Charlie Kirk being assassinated and out of response to these Epstein files and out of response to the clear divide we see
Starting point is 02:43:08 between people who believe in good and evil, I want to see Christians showing up in open carrying on Sunday. I want to see every Christian march into their place of worship carrying a loaded handgun on their hip, open carry, not concealing carry. Yeah, it says a signal.
Starting point is 02:43:25 You're not going to fuck with us. Don't fuck with us. Yeah. Don't, we're ready to, we're not going to play this game too much longer. Yeah. And if we're not willing to do that, we're going to get conquered. It's fucking natural order, dude.
Starting point is 02:43:36 It goes back to Darwin. Right. On the playground, if you let people push you around too much, you'll be a punching bag. Forever. Exactly. Yeah. And dude, to go to your voting point, and then we can wrap up. But the vote, like, for example, people will say, well, I'm not going to fuck a vote because it's all bullshit.
Starting point is 02:43:51 Well, what about those votes that they just went and confiscated in Georgia? Okay. Now, and I said, remember when I said this during the election? I said, you have to fucking vote. Because if you don't vote and they cheat, they're not going to be able to tell that it was fake anyway. So the only evidence of a fake election is the amount of votes that aren't counting. Okay. So two things can be true at the same time.
Starting point is 02:44:19 You can believe that we deserve a different system. You can believe that by voting we're consenting to be governed. and we can believe all of this shit because a lot of libertarians will say, you know, I'm not voting because it's given my consent to be ruled. Listen, motherfucker, we're living in reality here. Okay, this is reality.
Starting point is 02:44:41 We can talk about the way things should be, but then there's the way things are. And if the difference between way things should be and the way things are, mean that you're going to stand by the way things should be and you're going to get slaughtered for it, you're a fucking idiot. Okay?
Starting point is 02:45:00 stupid. We have to vote and we have to vote and then if we need to fix all of the shit we can, but the votes have to exist in order to know if there's fraud or not. Right. Right. Like, it's like take a basketball game, for example, if you come into a basketball game and somebody else's hometown or somebody else's home gym and you say, hey, we're going to be cheated from the start so we might as well not play. That's it. Then they win. Yeah, they win by default. You forfeit. No, we play the game. And if they cheat, we review it, we go back, we play again, we deal with the outcome of being cheated.
Starting point is 02:45:37 Hey, then it might, you know what? After 2020, people should have been in the streets. Yeah. Because obviously there was election fraud, but everybody had something better to do. Yeah. And this time, that's ratcheting up. People are getting sick of the election fraud. But, you know, you have to vote or else.
Starting point is 02:45:52 You can't really complain if you get cheated. Because you didn't get cheated. Yeah. That's right. That's right. If you didn't play, you didn't get cheated. But then you got Rachel Maddow saying, Oh, they're trying to fix the election.
Starting point is 02:46:01 No, bitch. You've been doing that for fucking 25 years. That's right. Okay? We're not trying to fix shit. We're trying to get an honest election out of what we're promised. What we work our whole lives to support with our tax dollars. Like, what the fuck, bitch?
Starting point is 02:46:15 Like, we're trying to fucking be, this ain't about fixing. This is about, we don't trust the system. And to give one more thing. The plan that I laid out that I think Trump is running right now, that a lot of people are going to say, He thinks he's running 7D chess It's working and let me tell you why it's working Because I got a call yesterday From my cousin
Starting point is 02:46:40 Who is as far left of a person That I personally know She is the furthest left person That I know personally And she was like Holy shit I had no idea this was real I thought it was bullshit
Starting point is 02:46:57 Can you send me more information And it was a great conversation. Okay? Good. That's a good song. Yeah, bro, because these people are starting to realize that the bill of goods that they've been sold has been bullshit too. So, anyway. Good.
Starting point is 02:47:13 Yeah. I love bro. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I wish we were having done it sooner. We'll do it again. Yeah, we will.
Starting point is 02:47:20 We'll. Absolutely. Anytime you want. Likewise, dude. You're welcome to come on anytime, bro. Like anytime you want to come on, you got something to say. Come on down. What's the best way?
Starting point is 02:47:30 for people to support you right now, dude. Yeah, you can go to roycewhite.us. It's my Senate campaign website. You know, you can sign up, email, do phone calls for us. They got good, we got good merchandise. Jesus is King T-shirts, go buy one of those. And other than that, I'm on all social media channels. My podcast, please call me crazy.
Starting point is 02:47:50 You can, you know, you can find on YouTube. I usually run it on X as well. Other than that, man, you know, hold the line. You know, we're not the far right. We're not the friends right. the extreme right, the alt right. We're just right. We're just right and just right for a time like right now. And we have to hold the line against the leftists and the communists and the Satanists and all these people. But we also have to hold the line within the wire. And as sure
Starting point is 02:48:16 as the sun will rise, President Bush and the Bush junta and that entire neo-conservative wing of the party is licking their chops that President Trump is coming on hard times with approval rating and they are coming back, they are coming back for the Republican Party in 26 and in 28. And if we don't, if we don't hold the line, all of us on the right or the right of center will have no shot in running this party or getting any policy past whatsoever in the future. So that's the fight I'm in Minnesota. And, you know, I just, again, Michelle Tofoya is like Tim Scott, the NRC, Mitch McConnell's band of running dogs.
Starting point is 02:48:52 They went out and recruited Michelle Tofoya, household name in Minnesota. legendary sideline reporter, but at the end of the day, she's ankle deep on the issues. And the reason what they went and got her was a slap in the face. It was to oppose me. Yeah. But it's a slap in the face to the entire Mag in America First Movement to say, we have the purse strings of the Republican Party, Tim Scott. He personally recruited her and has already endorsed her,
Starting point is 02:49:17 even though there's not even a primary or endorsement in the state. And it's just to say to conservatives, President Trump may have gotten elected, and we may have had to hang our nose like Tim. Scott had to hang his notes. Remember, he tried to run too. Yeah. We may have had to hang our nose, but we still control so much of the machinery don't think that it's over. And everybody has to understand that's why you have to be involved in the process is to hold the right. We have to hold the right if we have any chance to save in this country. I don't even see it as right. I see it as that's the party right now that represents
Starting point is 02:49:48 the people. Yes. The fundamentals of American citizenship. Yes. More so in line. And I think it's very important also for you guys listening to realize that Royce is a real dude. Okay, he's just like you guys. He doesn't have a big bankroll bank backing him up. This is a dude that can't pay. This is a dude that fucking gives a shit who is willing to put himself out there. And when I say you guys need to do it, Royce is doing it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:50:22 So think about that. you might just be you in your mind you think oh man i got some good ideas i got some good thoughts i think this i think that but i'm just poor little me motherfucker that's what they want you to think amen don't take yourself out of the game you have value you have ideas you have experience of being a real american and the only people that should be serving in our government are people who have the experience of being a real american just like you which makes you the most qualified to facilitate change. So never discount yourself.
Starting point is 02:50:59 This is you. All right. I'm done. Thank you, bro. I got a fucking head of it. No, dude, this is great. Royce. Godspeed, everybody in the audience.
Starting point is 02:51:08 God bless America. Appreciate you, man. Yeah. Appreciate you too, bro. Thank you for doing what you're doing, man. Keep on it, bro. We're going to fucking win. Yes.
Starting point is 02:51:16 One way or the other. We're going to win. Yes, we are. So, guys, Andy, Royce. That's all I got. Yep. All right, guys. We will see you Wednesday at 7 o'clock.
Starting point is 02:51:26 Don't be a ho. Show the show.

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