REAL AF with Andy Frisella - Create Value, Create Opportunity, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO136

Episode Date: March 30, 2017

What do you have to do to impress Andy Frisella so much he gives you his phone number? Joe and Mike Maki of Brokkr Wood and Metal Working pulled it off. How? By creating a product of amazing value and... coordinating a surprise delivery to The MFCEO - who was blown away. In this episode, Andy talks to the Maki Brothers and breaks down his thoughts on building something of value, taking initiative, and doing the work necessary to open up amazing opportunities for yourself.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up guys you're listening to the MFCEO project I'm Andy I'm your host and I am the motherfucking CEO guys today is Thursday Thunder if this is your first time joining us it's where you get punched right in the fucking balls okay I'm gonna tell you the truth I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm going to tell you what is on my mind. And today I have something really cool to share with you. Before I get into that, I want to address something that has been coming up in my inbox quite often. It has to do with my thoughts on quote unquote courses or info products or the Instagram universities, whatever the fuck you want to call them. Uh, you know, I made a couple of posts basically dogging out, you know, the, the guys who are out there, uh, saying passive income and selling you a program, uh, and you know, selling Insta court info courses and all this shit that you could buy. And I want to share my thoughts on that real quick. Number one, I'm not against courses. Okay. If someone is writing a course that can
Starting point is 00:01:13 bring you real fucking experience and teach you real lessons that you should, uh, you know, or that you can learn from and skip a lot of the hard periods of your journey being an entrepreneur. That's awesome. That's something that we have not had really before outside of guys like maybe Tony Robbins when I was growing up. If I could have went and bought a course from somebody who built a 50, 100, a billion dollar, $6 billion business, I would have bought all of them,
Starting point is 00:01:47 every single one. And you should too, because you spend a thousand dollars on a course and you learn one fucking useful skill, that skill is going to save you tens and probably hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of your life. Not only that, it's going to save you time. But here's what I am against. What I'm against is motherfuckers on the internet that we have 50 fucking million of them right now popping up that are 19 fucking years old life coaches. Okay. How the fuck can you be a life coach at 19 fucking years old? You haven't lived any fucking life.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You barely are in into puberty. Okay. You barely got hair on your fucking nutsack and you're out there telling people how to fucking live. No, I don't think so. Okay. You haven't earned the right to sell your fucking advice yet. The other thing I'm against is anybody selling a course on anything that has to do with business that happens, built a fucking business. Okay. If you haven't gone out there and built a fucking business, you don't have the right to sell people shit about building a business. I don't give a fuck how many books you read. I don't care how much you fucking think you might know, but I'm going
Starting point is 00:02:55 to tell you right now, actually building a business is not as simple as reading a book about building a business and then reciting those lessons to somebody and charging them money. Okay. And you as the fucking potential consumer need to be smart enough to know the difference between guys that have actually built things. And there's plenty of them out there who have, who have built things and they sell courses. Damon John sells a course. Grant Cardone sells a course. Damon John's built $6 billion company. Uh, Grant Cardone has a fucking third of a billion dollar real estate portfolio and one of the best salesmen in the world. Okay. There's plenty of dudes out there who have done real shit that are selling courses for you to learn from, but there's far, far, far more. 99% of these people out there selling you fucking info shit
Starting point is 00:03:48 and saying shit like, Oh, be a millionaire and you're fucking 22. Uh, you know, live your dreams at 25, uh, passive income. You don't have to do anything. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Look, man, there's only fucking two kinds of passive income in this world. One is real estate. And the only way it becomes passive is if you put 20 fucking years into it and you've put a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of money into becoming an expert. And then you sit back and collect and it's still not passive because you have to fucking pay attention. So that's the closest thing I could think to a legit passive income. The only other way to have a passive income is to make a fucking course
Starting point is 00:04:30 and sell it to motherfuckers that don't know any better and sit on the beach and fucking work at your computer and pretend like you're making passive income and then sell people on the idea of making passive income, which is a complete fucking lie. There's no difference between that and stealing in my book. So when I get verbal and get aggressive about fucking passive income and info courses and motherfucker on the Internet selling fucking nine hundred ninety seven dollar programs for you to get rich. That's the shit that I don't like.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I don't like that shit. I'm not down with that shit. I don't stand with that shit. I don't agree with that shit. There's too many credible people do incredible things out there that you can learn from and for you to be spending money with people like that. Okay. And you need to be smart enough to do your research. What is this person built? What have they created? Let's see their brand. Let's see their buildings they fucking own. Let's see their businesses they own. Let's see and learn from people who have done real shit. That's an amazing thing because those guys could teach you the real fucking skills that you need to have to become an entrepreneur. Now, with that being said, understand we live in a time of information where information is more available than any other time
Starting point is 00:05:53 on earth. And that's a tremendously awesome thing. But you have to be aware of the predators out there that are going to sell you things that have never done anything. And there's far more of those than there are credible people right now. And that bubble is going to burst by the way, because people are going to smarten up. But I don't want any of you motherfuckers listening to this, spending one fucking dollar with somebody like that. Research who they are. Look at their business. Is their business actually successful? Are they who they say they are? Do they live the way they say they live? Is it, did they really build a business or are they just a rich fucking kid with some money with his parents' car selling you something? In my mind, that's not building a business. Okay. So, and, and here's the thing, let's say you guys
Starting point is 00:06:42 right now, you're in a hurry to make money and you decide, oh, well, Andy, these motherfuckers selling information. I'm going to jump on board, sell information to make some money. Okay. Is it worth ruining your name for the rest of your fucking life? Ruining your credibility for the rest of your life? Ruining everything that you're going to do from here on out to build something that's going to make you money for fucking a couple months? Or is it better to go build a real fucking business you want to make you want to you want to make fucking info products go and build a real fucking
Starting point is 00:07:10 company and then sell how you did it there's nothing wrong with that that's a lot of value millions of dollars of value in some of the information out there okay but don't be the motherfucker who who who tries to scam people i hate shit. So that's my thoughts on the info fucking game right now. Do your homework, do your research, support people that are doing real shit, and dude, you know, learn how to do it yourself. So with that being said, I've got, this is a little bit different
Starting point is 00:07:40 of a Thursday Thunder because normally I don't have any guests, but I've got a couple guests here with me today that I want to talk to a little bit because they said something to me when they were a few minutes ago out in the lobby. And this is kind of a spur of the moment thing for me to have them on, but it resonated with me. Okay. And I talk a lot about opportunity and taking initiative and making sure that, you know, you take the initiative to create value and, and, and make things happen for yourself. And that's what these two guys did. Okay. Um, they basically built me a fucking amazing table. Okay. It's, it's this awesome table. If you saw
Starting point is 00:08:21 my snaps, if you saw my Instagram story, you saw it. It's totally custom. It's they have four to five hundred hours of creating. I mean, it's like art. All right. It's a symbolic conversation piece. And they built this and they just said this to me outside because they wanted to bring it here so that they could have an opportunity to meet me. All right. Now, now I get fucking people asking me all fucking day long. Can we have a meeting? Can we sit down and have coffee? Can we do this? Can we do that? No, we can't. You know why? Because you're not fucking bringing me any fucking value. You're not taking the initiative. If I really wanted to fucking meet
Starting point is 00:08:59 somebody, if I really wanted to fucking, you know, connect with somebody, I would go to their fucking building and camp out until they fucking took my meeting. But you motherfuckers think that people are just going to owe you something and say yes. And they're not. So what do these guys do? Like, had they fucking emailed me six months ago and said, Hey, we want a meeting. I would have said, fuck you. But you know what they did? They decided to fucking go out and build this awesome fucking table to get my attention. Not that I'm saying you're going to buy my attention, but they made an impact on me to where I said, dude, this is amazing that you guys did this. And now I'm putting them on the fucking podcast because I want them to tell a little bit about this experience. And you motherfuckers listening need to listen because these guys took initiative to create a situation where they could connect with me.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Now they have my fucking cell phone number. Okay? Which I don't give to anybody. Half my fucking employees don't have it. That's the truth. All right? And by the way, don't be giving it out. So tell everybody who you are, where you're from, and what you do.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So our names are Joe and Mike Mackey. We're from Northwest Indianaiana get close up to the mic there you go don't be afraid to touch it oh okay yeah it's not a wiener that's a big point of a face scary um so we're from northwest indiana and um we grew up in the manufacturing industry so rapid prototyping 3d printing engineering. So just to go back a little bit farther, we grew up with an entrepreneur. Our father started his own business, um, when he was 28 years old and Joe and I have grown up around a guy that has been grinding for a long time and it's it's humbling to watch in a sense
Starting point is 00:10:48 over the span of our lifetime because those values that he instilled in us to to work hard i mean for instance when we were kids it was like hey you want to go make money well go shovel some fucking driveways okay that's how i grew up yeah yeah right so go shovel some driveways okay dad so we would go out and we could barely pick up a shovel because we were so small but you know what we went out and we shoveled driveways and we made some money and it was awesome and that was i'd say that's the beginning and you know growing up around a guy that you could see how hard it was for him and how much of a fight it was for him to be an entrepreneur. I remember he just sent me a picture of a Christmas list I wrote when I was six years old.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And on the Christmas list, it was like some Legos, a bike, and please give my dad a paycheck. And dear Santa, please give my dad a paycheck. And dear Santa, please give my dad a paycheck. No, we've been experiencing that and watching that our whole lives. See, that goes exactly what the fuck I'm talking about a minute ago with the info millionaire bullshit. Like people think that entrepreneurship
Starting point is 00:12:00 is this fucking glorified, awesome thing. When in reality, 99% of entrepreneurship is this fucking glorified, awesome thing. When in reality, 99% of entrepreneurship is that you don't know where your fucking next dollar's coming from. You're stressed out. You're working your balls off and you really are in a position to where it's, it's terrifying all the time to the point where your whole family fucking knows is terrifying. You know, that's what entrepreneurship is. And that's why it pisses me off that i see all these motherfuckers taking pictures of their fucking parents cars and
Starting point is 00:12:30 then selling you a program on how to succeed it's bullshit bullshit yeah so keep going so anyways you know we grew up around that and it was you know it was awesome because we learned a lot of things from him and joe and i Joe and I both worked for him for a long time. We developed skills in that business and, you know, we've, um, you know, we're hopefully someday going to take it over. Um, if we could prove ourselves and, uh, Joe and I have been entrepreneurs at heart our whole lives. It was always, Hey, we're going to take over dad's business when we grew up. And dad said, no, you're not going to take over my business. You're going to buy my business. You're going to work for this business. And that those those things were they've been stuck in our heads since since day one. I'd say it's in our blood at this
Starting point is 00:13:21 point. And Joe, one day, you know, we like one day, like I said, we do our own things in life right now. And Joe and I, like I said, we're entrepreneurs at heart. Hold on. So what do you guys do for day jobs right now? You work at a family business? Joe still works for my dad, actually. I went on to heavy equipment for the last couple of years. Okay, so these dudes are out working regular jobs, All right. Like blue collar fucking jobs, which by the way, my favorite thing to do
Starting point is 00:13:49 is to run heavy equipment. People don't understand that. They don't believe it. And I tell people that and they laugh at me, but I've got my own equipment out at the farm. It's like, it's like a huge fucking sandbox. So anyway, I love that. But these guys are out working fucking blue collar jobs, all right? But they have entrepreneurial heart and they have entrepreneurial drive. So now they're getting into a new business together, which is, and tell them about how you guys kind of got the idea to do that how you got into it joe go ahead so um essentially we were uh sitting around one night and we you know we listened to this podcast and we listened you know there's a few a few other brands we support that have really
Starting point is 00:14:39 inspired us and i said mike you know i want to i want to build a table. Well, tell them how you came across me. You came across through? Rob Bailey. Okay, so. Shout out to Rob. Yeah, shout out to Rob Bailey. So these guys support a really good friend of mine. Well, two really good friends, Rob and Dana Lynn Bailey.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Both awesome people. Yeah, and they're tremendous people, and they're really good friends of mine. And that's how you came across me. Yep. Okay, because I got a funny story about how I met Rob. It's very similar to your guys' story. So, essentially, we started building this table for Rob. And it, originally, I said, Mike, let's just buy it and we'll engrave it and we'll send it out to him.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And Mike's like, no, man, we're going to build this thing. And I said said all right so it took us not nothing short of a year and a half of trial error learning just wait wait wait so you're saying you're telling me is this what i'm hearing right is you had no fucking clue what you were doing no okay and you decided okay hey we're gonna fucking do this yeah and you went out and learned the skills. Yep. Holy shit. It's a revolutionary thought process. So we finally, I mean, it was... So wait, you're telling me that you went out and fucking learned. Nobody came and showed you.
Starting point is 00:15:58 No. Nobody came and held your hand. We had some help from YouTube. Okay. So you actually went to Google and YouTube and learned the skills you needed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Wow. Seriously. Like, this shit, I'm being sarcastic because people don't fucking understand how this works. And you guys clearly get it, which is I'm giving you credit. So I'm being sarcastic. Yeah, we appreciate it. But by the sarcasm, I'm giving you credit. No, no being sarcastic, but by the sarcasm, I'm giving you credit. No, no, no, we get it.
Starting point is 00:16:26 All right, cool. So we built this table, and I mean, like I said, it took us a year and a half, and that was a lot, a lot of late nights, and we fighting. A lot of curse words. A lot. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of cursing at each other.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah. Mike threw a table leg at me one time. Yeah. Did he hit you no i didn't uh what the fuck it's kind of like it's in the general direction close my eyes yeah um but after you know we started on that building that table we said well you know we have more than one person that's inspiring us let's build them tables as well. So we started building a table for Andy too. And I think that was probably a year into it we decided to
Starting point is 00:17:11 because we were honing the craft a little bit better, a little more confident. We basically had Rob Bailey's table complete at that point. It was just a few things we were finishing up. So we ended up delivering the table to Rob. And the look on Rob and Dana's face when we brought that table to them, for absolutely free, it was one of the most fulfilling experiences of our lives. Right. Because they were just so blown away by what we did, and just got us so we were so fired up i mean it was i mean it was just it was literally a year and a half's worth of work that we handed over and we blew someone's minds and that i think that that sense of fulfillment that we achieved after all
Starting point is 00:17:58 that work was awesome right and then through that rob um he said he's like we told Rob, we're like, you know, we got a table for Andy. And he said, you know, Andy and I are good friends. He's like, you know, I can I can hook you. You know, I can I can call his brother Sal right now and we can set this up. So we said, all right, that sounds good. Right, right, right. We weren't expecting that at all. And so thank you rob and dana for that and uh he says um you know next day he texts us he says here's sal's number and um you know set it up with him so like okay we got you know the vice president yeah yeah the vice president of first forms number now and uh so we text sal and he didn't text us back for a day
Starting point is 00:18:43 it was like it's like yeah it's like it's back for a day. It was like, it's like, yeah, it's like, it's like texting a hot girl, not knowing, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:49 you shoot the text out. Sal's waiting the two days. Yeah. We're like, we text him as soon as we got the number. Like, I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:58 we're hungry, but we stopped. We didn't want to sound too desperate though. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I texted Mike that I was like, wait it out, wait it out. Should we text him again?
Starting point is 00:19:10 That's funny. So Sal texts us back. He says, you know, what time you want? 12.30 on Friday. Be there. And we said, all right, we'll be there. And we showed up. We drove five hours from northwest Indiana india we would have come here
Starting point is 00:19:26 anyways by the way yeah it wouldn't matter we would eventually just showed up at your front door but like you know that that's what we did rob right joe yeah essentially i mean showed up at rob's gym and we were like so we've got a package a big one the girl yeah and the girl at the front desk is like all right right, what's in the package? We're like, a table. And she's like, okay. That's funny. So there's so much good things to point out here that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:59 First off, okay, these guys were thinking about how to provide value and how to make impact they weren't thinking about how to fucking make money all right they said how can we how can we show some appreciation to some people who have inspired us who have taught us and helped us uh you know get our minds right and rob's very good too if you're not if you if you know rob he's super motivating guy i've been trying to get him on the podcast. It just schedules haven't worked out yet. Um, but, uh, you know, these guys weren't thinking like, how can we sell these guys some shit or how can we, uh, you know, make money? They were thinking like, okay, how can I fucking show people that I appreciate them?
Starting point is 00:20:42 How can I provide value? And in the process of providing the value, they went out and learned a whole new fucking skillset. They didn't learn how to make these amazing table or know how to make these amazing tables because their dad made these amazing tables or their uncle made these amazing tables. No, they said, we're going to fucking make these amazing pieces of art and we're going to learn how to do it through the fucking old Google machine and YouTube. You just heard it from their mouths. Dude, you got, I say it all the time. The tools are there. If you fucking, if you're willing to put in the work, then they went and spent what they told me 400 to 500 hours building my table, trial and error, trial and
Starting point is 00:21:21 error. You know, you don't know how you're going to get there what it's going to make andy joe joe literally i watched him one night take the table and just smash it to pieces and that was like you know because it was right it was rev after rev is like no it does not no it's not right no it's not right and joe just smashed it one night and like it was a lot of work man yeah it's a lot of work yeah but dude that is what entrepreneurship is like i have people talk like today i'm getting a lot of questions. Yeah, but dude, that is what entrepreneurship is. I have people talk. Today, I'm getting a lot of questions on Instagram, and I'm having people be like, well, how do you know? How do you know it's going to work? You don't know it's going to work.
Starting point is 00:21:53 What you do is you go out and you fucking do your best, and then when you fuck it up and you recognize that it's not the best you can do, you trash it, you start over, and you go do what you learned. When we showed up the warhouse gym it was pure luck that rob and dana were there that weekend yeah it was pure luck yeah there was it wasn't luck it was meant to be yeah dude you know what i believe in that i believe in the universal lines itself people have pure intentions and you know uh now what we have here is we have two young guys what you're 27 how old are you um 25 okay we we have two young guys. You're 27. How old are you? I'm 25.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Okay. We have two young guys, millennial generation guys, who work regular jobs, who are now transitioning into a company from skills that they developed out of pure appreciation for other people's hustle. And, dude, that is what fucking entrepreneurship is. Entrepreneurship is not, you possess these skills. You start out with a fucking purpose. I want to accomplish this. Not I want to make millions of dollars in 12 months, or I want to become a millionaire in a fucking year. No, I want to become the best fucking custom furniture maker on earth that, that, and we
Starting point is 00:23:06 make a furniture that is conversation piece. It's not, it's not, uh, just a table that you buy a fucking coffee book or a coffee table book and put on. No, the whole table is a conversation piece. Dude, if you guys see the table, dude, that the legs, they made it out of these custom made sledgehammers and then they put wings on it to represent the success fairy and then the hard work. You know, there's no such thing as success fairy. And the only way to get somewhere is to work. And then the top of the table has these coasters that all have quotes of mine. We'll put pictures up so you guys can see
Starting point is 00:23:40 it. Dude, tell people where, where they can follow you um you can follow us on instagram that's where we're most active okay i'm at brocker that's b-r-o-k-k-r underscore wood underscore working okay so at b-r-o-k-k-r underscore wood underscore working dude you guys need to follow these guys and check out their shit and they're just getting their business going. So you guys like, dude, if you want a bad-ass piece of custom furniture commission, I I'm sure they will fucking do it. Am I right? Like, so go check out their shit and support these guys because these guys represent real entrepreneurship, not these motherfuckers on the internet telling you,
Starting point is 00:24:25 oh, they're by my fucking course on how to make a million dollars a month by my course on how to fucking be rich and ball out. No, pay attention to these kinds of guys who are going out and learning fucking skills that are useful and come from a place of purity because they want to create something that's impactful. That's how you make money make money okay that's how you build a career you build a career and you build a business you build an income by becoming the best at what you fucking do and i could tell you right now that is the nicest fucking table i've ever seen in my life so if you guys want to fuck yeah dude i mean it man you know and the reason i wanted to put you guys want to fuck, yeah, dude, I mean, you know, and the reason I wanted to put you guys on was because the, the, the lesson of you want to take initiative to meet someone that
Starting point is 00:25:14 you want to know, dude, you've got to go over the top. You know, you're not going to connect with somebody who's on a different level than you are by just sending them a fucking email or sending them a fucking note. You know, I mean, and dude, I appreciate the notes and the letters and all that stuff. But dude,
Starting point is 00:25:29 if you really want to connect and build a relationship, you've got to figure out how to go over the fucking top with somebody, which brings me to my story of how I met Rob, because this is what's really funny. So when I wanted to, so three or four years ago, when I first met Rob, Rob was,
Starting point is 00:25:44 you know, and Dana was winning the Olympia and they were fucking at the top, super popular, like had millions of people coming at him all the time. Dude, I just wanted to meet this dude and have a relationship with him. I didn't know him. I didn't really know any,
Starting point is 00:25:56 my buddy Curtis knows him and, uh, and, and I didn't know him. So like, I, I just wanted to know him because I'm like, dude,
Starting point is 00:26:03 this guy's fucking cool. Like I watched his videos just like you guys did same thing right yeah all right yeah same thing like i'm watching this shit i'm like dude this motherfucker is badass like i just want to be friends with this dude and uh i don't want anything from him i just want to know him and uh so dude i fucking had the dudes out in the warehouse put a whole fucking pallet of first form product together, like an entire pallet and all our gear, everything. And I sent it to him with a note and I said, hey, bro, you know, I know you don't know who the fuck I am. And I know you got a million people coming at you all the time. But this is just a this is just a token of my appreciation for everything that you guys are doing.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And the gratitude that I have for the content and the shit that you guys are doing and the gratitude uh that i have for the content and the shit that you guys are doing i resonate with it and that's how i fucking met rob rob called me back and he's like uh dude thank you bro like what do you want i'm like i don't want anything like you know like i just wanted to say that and like you know we did we we came close to to actually uh bringing them on to first form as athletes. And then we came to the idea that, like, dude, we just were more. Him and I both would rather just be friends than be business partners. Because whenever you start mixing business, you don't know how shit's going to go.
Starting point is 00:27:20 So, like, we just decided that we that we were gonna be boys and dude he's one of my best fucking friends i talked to him nearly every day and uh you know that's how i fucking met him it's the same way you guys met me you know what i'm saying and so if you guys are out there want you know you want to connect you want a mentor don't fucking ask him to mentor you dude you gotta make it fucking you gotta make it you knoworable. Like, I don't even know if that's a fucking word, but I'm going to say it's a word. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you've got to make such an impact. It's impossible to fucking deny the impact. And that's what I want, you know, wanted to point out to you guys, like, dude, and I'm not saying come fucking make me a table or do
Starting point is 00:28:00 all this shit. Because like, to be honest, I don't have the time to have those kinds of relationships because I'm so busy with my work. But but like there's other guys out there that you want to connect with there's people in your community you want to get to know there's guys that are leaders in your community it could be a local business exactly it could be a local it could be a local business in every single area of this country right now they're because i always get people they're like dude will you be my mentor i'm like no because i don't do that like i don't have time to do that so but there's people in your area right now who have, who are where you want to be. Okay. Who aren't mentoring anybody doing a podcast, doing a YouTube show,
Starting point is 00:28:34 which by the way, if you guys haven't gone and subscribed to my YouTube channel, Andy for Sella and you know, we start the for Sella factor next week. So we're going to start that new YouTube show I talked about last week, uh, next week. So we're going to start that new YouTube show I talked about last week next week. So go subscribe to YouTube. But these guys aren't doing all that content. So they have more freedom to talk to you. And dude, most business guys, they're flattered by that because it's validation of their success when people look up to them.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So dude, figure out a way to make an impact with those guys and find somebody who is in your local area who is where you want to be. And dude, fucking do something to get their fucking attention. Don't write them an email. We get a million emails a day. Nobody fucking cares. Do something over the top. And like, like guys, more than anything, like, I mean, I love the table, dude. It's amazing. And it literally is the best fucking table I've ever seen. But like, dude, I appreciate the fucking hustle, dude. Like that, that means as much to me as the table. So thank you guys so much for that, for bringing that in. Thank you, Andy. Yeah. Thanks for everything you do, man. Seriously. Bro, look, man, it's, I do the shit I do for guys like you who are going to go out and do shit.
Starting point is 00:29:38 You know what I mean? And, uh, so seeing you guys come here today and, and meeting you guys and seeing and hearing this story, that's why I put you on the podcast because it's like that is, that's why I do this. I don't do this so you can go out and try to fucking make a trillion dollars in one year. Like, dude, I hope you do make a trillion dollars, but it's going to take time. You're going to have to learn the fucking skills and you're going to have to put in the investment of work. And, you know, all this bullshit that we see on the internet nowadays, guys, is just that it's bullshit. It's people preying on your fucking emotions of wanting to get rich now. And guys, there just isn't a way to do that. Okay. You're going to have to put in the time. You're going to have to put in the investment to learn the skills. You're going
Starting point is 00:30:20 to have to put in the patience to earn these things. And if you do that and you're willing to do that, you'll eventually get where you want to go. But every time you buy into somebody's bullshit or somebody's quick fix or all the shit that I talked about earlier in the podcast, that's another week or another day or another month, however long you spend fucking with it, that you're not going to get back. That's taking you further away from where you want to be. If you just put your fucking head down and do it the right way. So guys, thank you so much for coming on. Um, I really, really fucking appreciate the table and, and, and even more so I appreciate the initiative and the hustle. So you guys are setting a good example. If you guys tell everybody where to follow you one more time so on we're on instagram at b-r-o-k-k-r underscore wood underscore working and how so if people want to fucking commission
Starting point is 00:31:12 a table order a table what's the best way for them to get in touch with you they go through if you're on the instagram page go through messenger there's a link to our website okay go to the website and uh you can you can email both of us dude yeah you guys will see on their on their page the kind of quality the work they do of us dude yeah you guys will see on their on their page the kind of quality the work they do and and dude support these guys you know uh buy commission a table commission something for your office commission something for your home because these guys are fucking real entrepreneurs okay all right guys peace out i'll see you tuesday Peace out. See you Tuesday.

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