REAL AF with Andy Frisella - How To End Relationships That Impede Your Progress, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO173

Episode Date: September 12, 2017

What do you do when you want to be successful, but you've got a relationship in your life that is counterproductive to all your personal and professional goals and dreams? The answer isn't easy, but it is simple: You cut them off. Yes, this kind of thing can be really messy. But you have to do it. In this podcast, I tell you why and how I've done it. If you want to fulfill your potential, you'll need to do it, too.

What is up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy. I'm your host, and I am the motherfucking CEO. Guys, today is a normal Tuesday podcast. I know we haven't had one in a while. I appreciate you guys sticking with us. Sometimes we like to do shorter ones when it's just me. Sometimes we get the whole team together and we knock out an in-depth podcast. Today is one of those days, and we've got a really cool topic that we're going to talk about. Before we get into that topic, I'd like to introduce my team here. As always, I'm joined by my co-host, Vaughn, the pastor of Disaster. What's up, man? Things are good. Hey, speaking of really cool topics, I've got to my co-host, Vaughn, the pastor of disaster. What's up, man? Things are good.

Hey, speaking of really cool topics, I got to tell you, I mean, we're a little biased, but I think that after 100 episodes, we're still keeping it really fresh. Oh, yeah. I think I was a little worried about that. Is that your way to pat your own back? Tyler, what do you think? Kind of. I think Vaughn's patting his own back.

I think the audience knows that he likes to do that by now i agree maybe but you know i know a guy that thinks swag and cockiness is actually a good thing hey i'm not dogging you i'm just asking i'm just asking yeah but you got it would you agree that most podcasts after if you don't pat your own pat your own back first nobody else gonna fucking pat it for you that's what i'm saying toot your own horn i think we have that's right i think we have an episode on that. Yeah. So, dude, you were asking me what I was doing before I walked in here. Everybody that follows me, for the most part, understands and knows that I just got the brand new 2017 Ford GT. I got the first customer car. It was the first one delivered outside of Ford Executives.

It was the first custom color car. Very, very historic, important car. O'Rora Borealis. No. Arachio Borealis. Arachio Borealis. I was close. So that's a Lamborghini color. It took a lot to get them to do that. It's kind of like a homage to my, because I love Lamborghini and, uh, you know,

I love the color. It's a four stage golden orange paint. Uh, it looks really amazing in person, but anyhow, the car has been really, really good. And I like it a lot. And, um, I'm having this issue with it where the dash is, uh, one of the panels on the dash is actually peeling up. Okay. And I've got a couple other buddies who got 2017 Ford GTs. And I'm like, text them pictures of the dash. I'm like, hey, man, is your dash peeling up here? It's like the panel that holds the airbag down. You know what I'm saying?

It's like its own panel cut into the dash. And one of the corners is like peeling up. And so I text my other buddies who have cars as well, and they're sending me pictures back. Their dashes look normal. So I, I, uh, called Ford, uh, the customer, the concierge, and I text him and I say, Hey, you know, uh, this is going on. I want to get it fixed. It's, it's bothering me. And okay, I'll get you an answer. answer um now i didn't get an answer back uh so i text my my friend um dave bannister who has also got a ford gt and say hey bro you know what's going on with these guys uh you know i text these guys like a week ago i haven't got an answer back i

want to get this car fixed it's it's annoying me you know when you pay yeah a text these guys like a week ago. I haven't got an answer back. I want to get this car fixed. It's, it's annoying me. You know, when you pay a lot of money for a car, even though like it doesn't affect you, it affects you. You know what I'm saying? I want it to be fucking perfect. Even if you spend 20 grand on a car, if it's brand new, like you expect shit to work. Right. And like, dude, here's the thing. Like mine was the first car. They rushed it to get it done. They, they worked their ass off to get it done for me. And I understand that. And I appreciate that, but I just want to fucking answer, like, give me an answer the same day. Ask the question. Don't let me hang on for like a week and just wonder what the fuck is going on when you spent half a million dollars plus on a car. So anyway, so, uh, so I call Dave and I'm like, I call him and leave him a voice text. And I'm bro i'm like this is fucking bullshit and like i'm getting pissed because i haven't heard anything

back dude literally five minutes later i get a call from the director of ford performance henry ford the third on my cell phone oh yeah calls me up on my cell phone five minutes after i left that voice text and is is and and i I answered the phone cause it was an unknown number and I never do. It's Henry for the third, you know what I'm saying? Like, like his fucking name is on the car and dude, what's his title again? He's the, I forget what he said. I think he's the head marketing director at Ford performance or operations director or something. But, uh, I mean, he's in line to be the CEO. He's, he's a guy. He's the guy. Right. So anyway you know, he's, I mean, over the top apologetic, you know, let me know that they're

on it. They're taking care of it. I mean, you could tell he was legitimately embarrassed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I just wanted to share that story to all you guys from an entrepreneurship aspect for two reasons. One, when your company fucks up and does something wrong, you as the CEO or the main guy, you are not too big ever to pick up the fucking phone and call a customer i was blown away i couldn't believe it you know what i mean yeah second of all as a business owner it is your job to resolve issues like that when it neat when when they arise so i just thought that was

fucking amazing that he called up and and basically gave me his word that it was going to be taken care of immediately and uh i just thought it was going to be taken care of immediately. And I just thought it was an excellent example of how to handle a disgruntled customer, a customer that's pissed off. You know, we've talked about this in podcasts before, but rarely have I had that actually, I rarely have I ever seen it happen. You know, usually when you have a big company you're dealing with, you know, they don't give a fuck about you. You know what I mean? They're, they're, they're above you. They don't care if you have a problem, well then fuck you. You know what I mean? And I just thought that was amazing that he, uh, that he picked up the phone and called me personally to talk about it. And I, I mean, that's what I wanted to tell the story

as an example of how the right way to handle shit is, You know what I mean? And if Henry Ford III is not too big enough to call a fucking customer, then you aren't either. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Now, I'm going to guess that he didn't introduce himself as Henry Ford III. Did he say, like, call me Hank? No, he said Henry Ford III.

Oh, did he really? Yeah. I guess if you have that name, not just Henry Ford. That's amazing. So, I mean, dude, it was,

uh, I don't know. I thought it was a great, it was a great, um, example of how to handle things when things are going the wrong way. Because dude, as I was like a thousand percent pissed and with,

and within two minutes I was the opposite. Now I'm telling the story to fucking millions of people that are going to have an awesome fucking perception of how they do business. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. And, uh, the reverse Jarvis. Yeah. And that's what you guys have to understand. You know, I get a lot of questions about how to handle disgruntled customers. We'll realize that disgruntled customers, they're vocal and they're going to be vocal if you fix them as well. So they're really the biggest opportunity for you to grow your business because if you make things right with them, they will go out and tell good stories about you. And that's, that's extremely valuable. And I, I don't think that's why he called. I didn't get that, that it was genuine. You know, he was embarrassed and I told

him, I said, Hey, there's a couple of things about the car. You guys could change to make it better. And he's like, dude, let's set up a time to talk about it because I, I, I want to hear, cause he saw my application video. He's like, I want to hear what you think. And I said, well, the first thing is the traction control needs to be able to go all the way off. So I could do some fucking burnouts and show people on the internet how awesome the car is. And he's like that you can't do that. He didn't even know that you couldn't do it and the point is is like that you get valuable feedback from customers absolutely you know what i mean and um there's a few other little tweaks about the car that could be better that could that would be easy fixes they could fix them in all the cars that are without even having them in just programming

issues but the point is is that this is a dude who is the main guy in charge of that project and basically in charge of the company and taking his time to call a customer personally to find out what the fuck they could do better. And that impresses me with a hundred and something year old company. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Guys, while we're on that, Andy referred to this, but episode 98 is actually called Pissed Off Customers, Annoyance or Opportunity. That's a good one to review if you haven't seen it. And while we're on that, we've recently realized, didn't know this prior to this, but that if you actually follow a link directly to iTunes rather than following our MFCEO links, you actually help us a lot in terms of

rankings and getting visibility. So thank you for doing that. People are doing that and that's great. So definitely go back and listen to that one. So we'll talk about the winners of the contest here at the end of the podcast. Yes. So let's do that at the end. Let's do the podcast and then we'll talk about the winners of the contest at the end. Sounds good. So anyway, I have no idea what we're going to talk about today. Well, people have been clamoring for your insight on relationships and we're not going

to talk about like significant other, well, I guess in a way we were going to talk about significant others, but one of the biggest questions that we get emails all the time are like, Andyy what do i do i've got all these people they're bringing me down i'm trying to kill it i just don't know i don't i don't know how to do it you know i want to be nice but all that all the all the questions related to that i feel like that's been covered like 10 times yeah but you know the thing is though i think it's an important subject because I think people have a very hard time dealing with it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, when I say, and I mean this, you have to decide. You have two options. You can either cut them off and remove them from your life or you can become just like them. That's the power of your circle. That's the power of your circle. That's the power of the people you surround yourself with. You are going to become like those people. It doesn't matter if they're billionaires, you're going to become a billionaire just from association. It's just the way it works. If they're fucking crack smokers, you're probably going to start smoking crack and everything in between those two parallel or those two polar opposites. But the point is, is that, you know, people have

a hard time making the decision. They think, they think whenever you say, you know, you have negative people or you have people who mock your dreams and you have people who, you know, purposely try to make you feel like shit by calling you greedy or selfish or whatever it is, uh, whether they're friends or even family or parents or whoever, people think that whenever I say cut them off, that there's some kind of fucking gray area there and there isn't. There's no gray area there. I don't care if it's your fucking mother. If your mom is telling you that you're not going to be shit and your dreams are stupid and you're greedy for wanting to do this and that and this,

but in your heart, that's what you truly desire to do, you are going to have a really fucking hard time accomplishing those things with somebody that close to you in your ear about those goals, putting negative seeds in your brain that are going to sprout. And the problem with this, guys, is that, yeah, I get it. You're supposed to love your fucking mom no matter what, but sometimes you've got to love yourself first. and loving yourself as being true to yourself. And you have two choices. You could, you can go out and cut that relationship off or minimize it to the maximum and have a situation where you're doing what fulfills you and what makes you happy, or you can just listen to it and do what they think and live the life that they think you should live, which is going to ultimately leave you unfulfilled and unhappy for your whole entire life.

And guys, we only get one crack at this shit. So it makes sense to go out and do the things that are going to make you happy, regardless of what anybody else thinks. Right. So to clarify my babbling earlier, what we're talking about, guys, is how to free yourself from what I would say are distracting, dead-end, dangerous relationships. And so I think one of the things that passes through my mind, Andy, is that people really have a hard time understanding the difference between what it means to be firm and what it means to be mean. They're all about, well, I don't want to be mean. But there's a difference

between being mean and being firm, right? Is standing up for yourself mean? Right. I'm asking you. No, no, it's not. I don't think it is either. You know what I'm saying? I think that people these days have become so soft and delicate that they feel like whenever a person disagrees

with their viewpoint, whether no matter how it's presented, whether it could be presented in the most polite way, they take offense to it. Like, hey, look, man, I'm not going to agree with everything you fucking say. You know, like Tyler and I just got in a conversation last night about cars and we were disagreeing about something. I didn't fuck. I'm not coming in here all pissed off and be like, Oh fuck you, Tyler. I can't believe you disagree with me. No, I'm just stating my point. He's stating his point and then we move on, you on. But society doesn't work like that.

I think a lot of it has to do with Facebook because people like, it should be called debate book. No matter what the fuck you say, you get people that want to post the opposing view and start it into a debate. And that comes down to a whole other issue, which is- Facebook reminds me of the front of the White House where people set up tables like, come argue with me. Yes, dude. And like it's it makes no sense. Like it's people who. Try to win conversations versus trying to learn from a conversation or or hear some the skill of listening has become like extinct. You know what I mean? Like people ought to believe what they believe. And if we're going to have a conversation about cars or about politics or about

whatever, we're going to try to beat each other in the conversation versus being like, all right, let's hear what you say. I get what you're saying. Here's why I don't think that, you know, like adults, like, right. It's so rare. But the point of it is is that in all that i think it's created this situation where people um people have an issue just standing up for themselves or saying their point of view because they see it as uh confrontational and here's the problem with that and uh when you're going to be successful in life there's going to be times in your in other parts of your life where you're going to have to stand up for yourself and you're going to be successful in life, there's going to be times in other parts of your life where you're going to have to stand up for yourself and you're going to have to disagree.

And there's value in that. Like no company needs somebody who just says yes to everything and is a meek little dude in the corner who doesn't offer his ideas because he's too afraid. Like if you want to, this goes beyond relationships. This goes into your personal success at your job, at your career, at everything that you do is your ability to have a conversation and be firm in your stance. And sometimes, you know what? You're not going to win that conversation. Sometimes you're going to be firm and there's going to be somebody who overrules you and says, you know what? I don't

like that. I'm going to do it this way. And you know what? That's okay. That's the way it goes. You know what I mean? This is my company and I don't get my. I'm going to, we're going to do it this way. And you know what? That's okay. Right. That's the way it goes. Right. You know what I mean? I, I, this is my company and I don't get my way every single time sometimes. And I'm smart enough to recognize this. I say one thing for other people say the other thing and it's them guys against me. And I say, you know what? That's a pretty good idea. We'll try that. And if it doesn't work, we're gonna do it my way. Sometimes it's the opposite. Sometimes they say, no guys, I don't agree work we're gonna do it my way sometimes it's the opposite sometimes they say no guys i don't agree we're gonna try my way if that doesn't work we'll do your way right yeah absolutely but being firm in your beliefs is a skill it's a it's something you have to develop and you know people think that like being confrontational being firm in what you say and having your own opinion is somehow mean it's not fucking mean it's just the way

it's the way shit is supposed to be well it, it's like what you always say, like, dude, 50% of the people are going to like you 50% are like, you just have to keep that in your head, dude. And that usually goes with every fucking opinion you're ever going to have. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mark Twain said, don't ever explain yourself because your, your friends won't need it and your enemies won't believe it. Right. And, uh, but you know, I, as you were talking, I was thinking one of the things I think people need to realize about the, the, the people who are easy to offend and who are easy to piss, be pissed off is that usually they're two extremes. Usually they're either insecure. And so they're threatened when you assert yourself or they're just arrogant. They think they're right. And they don't want to hear anything different. And I think

if you begin to understand that it makes it easier to assert yourself because you realize the problem's not with you, the problem's with them. They're just deep down, they're scared of who they are, not comfortable with who they are. Or their priorities are different from your priorities. Yeah. And that's perfectly okay. I've always found that the way to quote unquote break up with somebody in your life who's being negative and not believing in your shit. It's just to say, hey, there's nothing wrong with the way they believe. That's the life they choose. I choose this. This is what my thing is. And I don't have any ill feeling towards them. I'm just not going to talk to them anymore about whatever it is I've got going on. I'm just going to do my own thing over here and let them do their own thing over there. And when they fucking,

when they put their little two cents in or little digs, I'm going to say, hey, look, you know, when you say that, A, it makes me not want to ever come around you. B, I don't judge you for the way you want to live. This is the way I choose to live.

But do you know why that works for you? Because two things that you talk about all the time. Number one, do the right thing. So you have a clear conscience. And number two, you have core values that you know your core values.

So it's okay for it. You're able to basically say, all right, I know that I'm not a prick and I know that I'm guided by certain values. And because my values are not consistent with their values and there's a clash, I'm okay going my direction and letting them go their direction. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think that, you know, I think that's something that's developed over time too.

Right. Right. But that goes back to why, you know, I think that's something that's developed over time too. Right. Right. But, but that's, that goes back to why, you know, you've said both personally and professionally, you've said this on the podcast a number of times, you got to know what your core values are. You got to know what you're standing for. Right. If you don't, then when somebody, when then you, when you disagree with somebody, maybe

you won't have the clarity in your mind to say, well, I'm just going to go my way and he's going to go his way. You know what I'm saying? Right. And dude, another thing to note too, about what we're saying is like people use what I'm saying here. Like, Hey, cut everybody out. That's negative as a way to like disengage from their responsibilities. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, I get this all the time. Like I get people who email me and they're like, dude, I heard you say, cut everybody out. That's negative. Well, my fucking wife's kids dragged me down, blah, blah, blah. Dude, have some fucking common sense.

By no means am I telling you to fucking divorce your fucking wife and leave your fucking kids. Dumbass. I'm telling you to figure out how to fucking make it work and communicate on a level to where they understand and where you understand what the fuck is going to happen. All right. So, you know, if you're one of these dumb fucks, it's going to email me and say, I'm fucking tired of my wife and kids. Well, you made that decision and you made that commitment and you better fucking figure out how to make it work. You know what I mean? Sometimes it just doesn't work, but some, but what I'm talking about is a situation where a guy is like just frustrated he's in an angry part of his life or he's

down for a month or so you know or whatever they're having a fight fuck you guys I'm fucking you hold me back no dumb fuck that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about the times where you have people that you can realistically eliminate. When it comes to your wife and your kids, those are responsibilities that you fucking created for yourself, and you owe those responsibilities your commitment. Right. Anytime you think that something you hear on this podcast gives you the right to shirk your responsibilities,

you need to go back and listen again. Yeah. Because you're not getting it. No, they're not. Right. That's people who listen to one or two fucking seconds or 10 seconds and then they make a decision based on what they heard. Right, so walk people through it, man.

I mean, like what, I know you say it's simple and I get it, but you know, sometimes people do need some guidelines. You know, how would you go about, particularly if it's people that, you know, that you care about? Because I think there are people that you can genuinely care about

that you still realize that you need to get out of your way. Dude'll tell you what I do. I mean, basically I just let them drift away. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't respond to every text. Uh, I don't invite them to fucking parties I have. Um, I don't answer their phone calls and you know, I, I might like their shit on Instagram, but I sort of just let them drift out of my life. You know, I stay busy with what I'm doing. I'm focused on what I'm doing. I'm not available and I'm not available really much anyway. Um, but in time, dude, they just drift away and there's no hard feelings. It's people evolve, people grow, relationships change, friendships change. And, uh, you know, I think most people realize that, you know, the one thing you're going to

get from situations like that is you get people who are like, oh, Andy thinks he's too good for us now. Well, I mean, yeah, I do. You know what I'm saying? So they can say that. I'm not offended by it. I actually do think that, you know what I mean? I just didn't want to hurt your feelings by saying that. So, you know, that's, that's one of the biggest things that, that, uh, and that's as much a reflection on their choices as yours yeah they're choosing to be on a certain level that you don't want to be at right so yeah yeah so um i mean so i would say like dude if you can avoid them and if you could just let it drift that's the easiest way to do it man you think most people just get the hint oh yeah don't you yeah i think so yeah i think so occasionally you have somebody who's yeah you'll get people you know and sometimes dude you let people drift on accident sometimes you let good people drift out of your life on accident and those people

fucking those people usually hit you up and be like hey what the fuck man i'm trying to hang out with you i'm trying to spend time fucking still be friends with you those are usually the people who align with you you know what i'm saying uh so you know i've never I've never not or I've never deliberately cut somebody out of my life, though, and regretted it. No, fuck no. Dude, always been better. Yeah. Because normally if it gets to that point, you know, you know, I mean, I've done it a lot. I'm sure you've done it way more than me, but it gets easier and easier every time because, you know, it's the right decision.

Yeah, right. And yeah, exactly. The first time you do it, you have like this moral dilemma. Like, God, I'm being such a dick. But like the reality of it is you're not being a dick man you're protecting your own interests you know what i mean you're protecting your own energy and there's nothing wrong with that and maybe it makes them better in the end it absolutely does because a it makes them happier because they're not next to like dude you have to realize that all the negativity you get from other people

all the frustration you get from other people is a reflection of how you're making them feel about themselves so when you fucking move your way you're out of that circle no longer are they being like threatened or pissed off or mad or angry or frustrated by being so close to you when you're doing the things that you want to do you see what i'm saying because they'll have a lot of feelings like oh maybe i'm not good enough no it's not that you're not good enough. It's that your natures of being a human and priorities are different than mine and mine produce different results than yours produce. And so that's normal and that's okay. And there's nothing wrong with that. But people naturally think there's something wrong with that because we live in this materialistic society and you know, people, this really has to do a lot with materialism as they look at your house

and look at your car they you know and they get upset and when you're not doing anything but living your life you know what i mean so you're you are doing them a favor by taking that that perceived negativity out of their life there's another way you're doing them a favor and that's you know sometimes there are people that are just going to be slackers their whole life nothing's going to change that but some people if if they get a wake-up call they do change and so in a way if you just detach yourself from them that could be their wake-up call right that could be them saying oh man i'm i'm a loser well i'm losing friends because i'm a loser right and you know and dude i've had that happen to me before actually i had an old friend call me this morning and leave me a voicemail. I still haven't called him back yet, but I'm going to. But, uh, you know, he left

me a fucking three minute voicemail apologizing for some shit he did like three years ago. And I haven't talked to him since. And I, you know, a, I respected that B I will. I, I, you know, I do think that me separating from him probably caused him to reevaluate some shit. Cause it sounded like that in his voicemail. And the point of, um, of the next, the next point, I think like to help these situations is to have a talk with somebody, you know, meet them in person, you know, don't text out this big, long, mean text or, you know, call and leave them this ignorant voicemail saying, I'll fuck you. I'm done with you, dude, have a fucking meeting with them. You know what I mean? Some there's, there's multiple situations where this could happen. You know, you meet somebody and you just tell them, you say, look, bro, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm working like I'm

working here. I'm trying to do this. My goals are this, this, and this you're, you're, you don't have these goals and you're constantly saying these things and putting these little digs in and putting negativity. And I don't have energy for that, man. So like, if that's the way you're going to be, I, the relationship, you know, I, I don't want to sound like I'm breaking up with you, but like I'm breaking up with you. Right. And like, and sometimes you have to break up with your fucking friends and you have to like, let them know. And by having a real conversation, meeting them in person, sometimes that can be a wake-up call because but most of the time it won't be don't expect that like to use the to use the business analogy though i mean i think you've said

on this podcast that some of your best employees are people that at one point you fired yeah you know a few of them yeah yeah and so and so that's if you have to fire people to wake them up and then rehire them later and they're great they're they learn their that's if you have to fire people to wake them up and then rehire them later and they're great they're they learn their lesson yeah but you have to let them know what the deal is and like dude it's not about you know it's not about attacking them i think that's like important to note you know it's not about like glorifying what they lack it's it's more about just explaining what your priorities are and what you're want and what path you're on. And that's the way to have a conversation without a blowing up into an argument. You know, you see when you accuse people

and you say like you, you, you, you did this, you did that, you did this, you do that. You're like this. That starts arguments. You know, that's a, that's a thing where people are naturally going to be defensive. If you say, Hey, look, man, I know we've been friends for a long time. Slash. I know you've worked here for a long time slash I know you've worked here for a long time, but here's the deal. My path is this. This is what I'm doing. I'm dedicated to this path. I'm obsessed with this path. I'm going to go on this path. And I understand that you don't really believe that's the way it should be. And that's the reason why I don't think it's a good idea that we hang out anymore. Or that's the reason why I don't think it's a good idea that

you're here in the company anymore. It's all about having a straight up conversation. And I think you'd be happier, you know, doing other things and hanging around other people because all I'm doing is irritating you by going and just doing my own thing. You see what I'm saying? I love that you said that it's not attacking. And I think people need to understand there's a huge difference between attacking someone and confronting someone. And you know as well as I do. And what's kind of crazy is even strong personalities

have a hard time confronting people. It's kind of crazy. But the people who are really successful understand that that is just something you have to do sometimes. There's no getting around it. I don't mind it, personally. And I think you've gotten,

you've learned how to do it well yeah but i just know that when you confront someone you if they don't understand the context that you're you're trying to help them improve as well by confronting them then that's their problem if they're going to get upset and they're going to go home and they're going to cry and they're going to say fuck you andy that's them like i've learned to detach myself from people's reactions you know like people's reactions I really don't care about. Like I, that's not my problem. My, my problems are my problems. And if you're influencing whatever my problems are, then you are my problem. Right. And that's, that's a mature take on that because most people, most people do something

based on how somebody is going to respond or they don't do something based on how somebody's going to respond. And they're miserable. Right. Rather than doing something based on how somebody's going to respond or they don't do something based on how somebody's going to respond they're miserable rather right rather than doing something based on whether it's the right thing right yeah um lost my train of thought but no no i mean we're talking about confrontation yeah so like you know to me i mean i've been doing it so long i've had to fire so many people and had a hard conversation with so many people now i don't even delay like i don't even fucking delay it like soon as i'm starting to feel it i just go right up and say it and tyler knows this i mean that's how i do it here like when somebody has is doing something dumb i just go right up to him and say hey what the fuck are you doing why are you doing this this is stupid you need to be doing

this this and this and they either listen or they don't and if they don't you know in the company wise then they're probably gonna have consequences and friendship wise uh you know, in the company wise, then they're probably going to have consequences. And friendship wise, you know, usually, I mean, at this point in time, as old as I am, my friends are pretty rock solid. So I have issues like that. But when I was younger, I still didn't hesitate to go tell people. Right. The image that comes to my mind is like, dude, you're being a fucking asshole. Like, what's wrong with me trying to be successful? What's wrong with me building a business? What's wrong with me spending time doing this?

Sorry, I don't want to go out and drink fucking beer all the time. Sorry. Right. And this can also be applied to your actual business as well. Like if you're in business with other people or your vendors or whatever, have you like, you know, let's say you've had a vendor for 10 years and they're not willing to budge, but you got two other people offering lower offers. You just tell them. Yeah. But I think a lot of people are scared to do that. Hey, Tom, look, man, I know a lot of people are scared to do that. Hey, Tom. Look, man. I know we've been doing business for a long time.

You've helped us a lot. We've done a lot of good business together. But here's the reality. I found these two vendors that do these two things. And there's this much more that we can make. What can you do to help that situation on our end so that we can maintain the relationship? Put it on them. You see what I'm saying? And this isn't necessarily a negative thing, but this is a situation that you brought up.

So you put it on them, right? Yes. You say, hey, look. Hey, Steve. Look, we've been working with you for 10 years. I love you, man. You're a fucking good dude. I had, you know, this product priced out at this.

Obviously, that's a savings of X percent. I realize we have a lot of history here, but at the end of the day, we've got to do what's best for the company and you have to work with us or else we're going to have to go somewhere else. So what do you think we could do here to make that better? And if they say nothing, then, then, you know, you can go do your other thing. If they, usually those people will say, Andy, dude, I get it. Let me go see what I can do. And you'll come up with a resolution. But really the reason the people that the way that's mostly handled is like people will fucking, they will just switch the business. You know what I'm saying?

And then say, fuck this dude of 10 years and burn some bridges and cause all this fucking bullshit. And dude, I can't think of one person that I have a burnt bridge with. You know what I mean? Like, because that's what being honest and being able to confront people directly produces. It produces situations of respect. That's what people don't understand when they say being mean. Yes. Somebody might interpret it as being mean at the moment, but when they get down the road and they get home and it's a couple of weeks later or a month later, or even sometimes years later, they will, they will have enough, usually have enough fucking self-awareness to be like, man, that dude told me the truth and I didn't fucking listen. You know what I mean? And then they

respect you for it. They're like, man, that dude's a standup dude. Right. You know what I mean? And that's important because nowadays more than ever, just like we talked about on Thursday thunder, your brand, you are your product. You are your brand. You, your integrity is on the fucking line with everything that you do. So standing behind your word and being honest and being upfront and telling people exactly the truth, even if it hurts their feelings is important. It defines your integrity as a fucking human, not only as a human, but as a businessman, you know, and so many people have such a hard time with confrontation that they will tell half truths or quarter truths or complete

lies. You know what I mean? And that only damages their integrity. It labels them as a liar. It labels them as somebody who's weak. You know, so dude, being able to confront people and have hard conversations is not only important for personal growth, it's important for your career. Absolutely. You've used the analogy before. I mean, you've said like the reason that you're so committed to competition, for instance, is because that's literally the way the universe works. It's the survival of the fittest. This me, this is another one of those examples of taking it from actual nature. Because in real life, in the material universe, if something is infected, you neutralize it.

Otherwise, it infects everything. If you get gangrene in your toe, you better cut your toe off. Otherwise, your whole body is going to be destroyed. And that's all I hear you saying is basically, guys, this is just the way the world works. Dude, and this is important for the business people out there listening to see the actual business owners or managers to understand it's important it applies to culture as well. Because, dude, when you get one fucking bad apple in your culture, it can literally spoil the bunch. You know, you guys don't understand. You don't see what happens when you're not around.

I've been in business long enough to know what happens. You get one guy who's upset. He's pissed off. He's in a bad mood. He feels like he's in a, he's been, uh, you know, some, he's the victim of something that you did. He starts talking to his boy and gets him convinced because everybody wants to feel like they're in a group, right? They want it. They don't want to be like, I'm the only one getting, I'm the only one getting, uh, you one getting uh you know attacked here they'll be like fuck dude you know andy yells at us all the time and he's mean and they'll tell the guy next to him and the other guy i'll be like well yeah he does yell but and the other and then the original guy be like yeah that ain't right and then all of a sudden you got two guys fucking pissed off right

and it's a mutiny right no but that's how it happens and so you know when you when you get something like it's important as a ceo or manager or anything anytime you have a team of people to to be in tune with who the fuck is what because one bad attitude can literally fuck your entire company up for a long time dude i've had situations in the past dude i had a situation in 2012 where i had to fire eight guys in one fucking day because of it. Eight people. You know what I mean? Like, dude, I had eight people. I had to fucking, I've had situations where I had three or four dudes quit at the same time. You know, uh, it taught me the lesson of trying to keep my thumb on the, the temperature, not only of the culture, but of the individuals in the culture.

And that comes down to having hard conversations because usually those people have a decent argument as to why they're upset. It's not that they're totally on it's invalid, but in the context of business, certain things have to be certain fucking ways for the business to operate. And if you're a CEO that backs off of those things, now you're sacrificing your service integrity or product integrity or your customer experience integrity because you're giving into their fucking unhappiness. Sometimes, dude, people make legitimate gripes and you're going to have to say, hey, look, I understand that's how you feel, but you have to understand my position and why we do things this way. And they will say will say well i can't do that that

way then and you're like okay well then it's time to part ways right you know what i mean what what you're saying is exactly the reason back in the 1600s and 1700s in in like the english navy there were lots of different disciplinary procedures but when somebody mutinied it was swift execution yeah it was deal with them right i mean I mean, that's like real harsh, right? Well, right. But I mean, there's just a principle. Dude, that's like the old, and a lot of CEOs operate that way. Scare everybody into conforming. And here's the problem with that. When you scare everybody into conforming, I'm not saying you can't do it because you can, but the problem is, is you're not going to get passionate, amazing, their best work all the time.

You're never going to get it. You're going to get it at a resentful level. You know, they're going to do the minimum because you scare them. But, dude, when you make them passionate, you make them engaged and you listen to what they're saying and you give a voice and you understand like, hey, look, bro, I respect what you're saying and I value it. But here's why we have to do it. And you can actually come to an agreement and everybody gets it and you're polite and you fucking, but you're firm. Now you have guys who are fucking respectful of you and they're passionate about doing

the work, which produces, by the way, two, three, four times the amount of sales that you will ever produce with people who are disgruntled right you know what i mean so you can't treat people like the 1500s and be like i'll cut your fucking head off if you voice a concern and a lot of people think i run shit that way i don't you know i mean dude have i have i done that before absolutely i've made examples of people before because it was fucking called for but at the end of the day my goal is goal is to like, dude, let people have input. You know how much shit I learned from my employees through having those conversations? A lot. You know, a hard conversation could produce a really good outcome if you're open to listening. And sometimes you're going to be wrong. Sometimes

you think this person is being negative and you find out that they actually have a better way of doing it. And that's why they want to do it because they fucking care and now we're in a situation that's going to push the company forward so like you know you have to be open-minded to get feedback and have you know tough conversations you know so let me highlight and backtrack something you said because you when you were talking we're getting off track of cutting negative people out well not really i think we're providing value not really because i think what I'm hearing you say is just, you know, yes, with the people who are giving genuine feedback and there's a line, there's a line, right? You have to be decisive

with the people who are just, that's right. You have to be aware enough and, and, and smart enough and perceptive enough to understand the difference between legitimate feedback and fucking whining. Right. Or negativity. Right. and there is a fine line there because dude some people express genuine feedback in a negative way and it and you perceive it as negative when in reality the reason they're pissed is because they want the best for you and they think they got a better way yeah you see what i? Yeah. So there's a fine line identifying negative or, or somebody who's actually trying to help you. Okay. But this is a good point to tease out. And before I backtrack, I want, cause we talked about this before. This is a good time to

interject the difference between people who are giving you legitimate criticism and people who are just haters. So some, some guiding principles. Well, like I just said, are they giving legitimate feedback? Are they offering things that you could improve on? Do you have an open mind and able to look at yourself, at your product, at the way you do things,

and say, you know what? That person is telling me the truth. We are doing this a little bit wrong, and we could be better. That's constructive criticism. Being a hater is like slicing your tires and just saying fuck you andy i hope you fucking fail you're a piece of shit right you know what i mean personal and dude because like there's been a lot of people

like i was thinking about this this morning you know when i was when i was uh you know a two a year and a half ago when i was 330 pounds i I had people on the internet be like, Andy, you're fucking fat. And you know what? I used to get pissed and I'd be like, dude, that's a fucking hater. That wasn't a hater. That was somebody just telling me the truth. I was fucking fat.

I was out of shape. And you know what? Those people fucking got me to the point where I took action because I was fucking tired of hearing it. And you know what? I was defensive because of the way they presented it. You know, I would have definitely been more receptive if someone said, Hey bro, look, you know, I love you, but you're getting a little fucking chubby. You know,

it's probably time to do something about that. I don't think you understand that you're, you're looking unhealthy. You don't look good. And, uh, you know, I respect the shit out of you, but I just want to be honest with you so that you, you can do something about it because i i didn't realize i was fat you just don't see it on yourself right you know the way other people see it you're with yourself all the time and um you know and i had a lot of people who probably were haters right but even haters can offer real feedback like hey you're a fucking fat ass you know what you're right i was fucking fat you know what? You're right. I was fucking fat. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can learn from your enemies. And like, dude, I was thinking about it this morning because I was looking in the mirror.

I'm getting in pretty good fucking shape now. And I was thinking about all the people who said that. And I'm like, man, I wish I knew their fucking addresses so I could write them a fucking thank you card. You know what I'm saying? So you've got to be open enough to accept the truth wherever it presents itself. I think that's the bottom line you know sometimes um you're gonna get your feelings hurt and you're gonna be like dude you're just fucking hating on me i don't know are they like do they have a real point are they making a real point because a lot of times they are you know what i mean yeah i think it's a good question dude like what if someone fucking is hating on you but it exposes

a chink in your armor that you truly know is there and it gives you the opportunity to fix it that's still constructive criticism now some people are ridiculous and they give you fucking hate and they're just haters right but the reality is is there's a little truth to everything usually there is i think a good exercise for anybody is just to always say okay don't ask does this offend me don't ask does this make me feel bad say is it true exactly because usually the reason that you get offended by what people say is because there's fucking truth to it right you know what i mean you're not getting mad at somebody if they call you fat if you're fucking great shape you're gonna laugh right right you're not getting mad at somebody if they call you a fucking scammer if you're not scamming people you're gonna laugh right you know like i've been called those

things on the internet and and you know what you know why i got mad whenever people call me fat because i knew it was fucking true you know why i don't give a fuck if people call me a scammer because i know it's bullshit 100 yep you see. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. So I do want to, I, so I noticed when you were talking earlier that you said, like if you're mad, like if you hear something from someone and it makes you angry, it's probably somewhat true. Yeah. You're insecure about it. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So I noticed you said don't attack. And the other thing you said, I noticed that you said was you said like, well, this is just what I'm doing.

This is where I'm going. So all kidding aside, what it sounds like to me is you're basically telling people to say to the person they're cutting loose, hey, it's not you, it's me. Well, it is. You know? There's truth to that. That classic breakup scenario.

Look, dude, here's how you break. Like, people always ask, how do you break up with someone? You motherfuckers out there that want to break up with your chick or your dude you don't know how i'm gonna tell you how right now and this is the same way you have that conversation look because everybody's dude dude you've dealt with people who are marrying all this shit right absolutely they dude you know why all divorces ends up so fucking nasty and why all fucking breakups are so mean and why everybody hates each other is because they look at it like this. It's your fucking fault. As opposed to just

saying, how about this? Hey, look, we've had some great times together. I really like you. You know, I love you. I care about you. But the reality of the situation is I have these, these goals in mind for myself. Um, this is what I'm into. This is what I like. This is the kind of the situation is I have these goals in mind for myself. This is what I'm into. This is what I like. This is the kind of shit that I like to do. You don't like those things. You like to do this and this and this. And I understand that you like those things.

They're not what I like. And that doesn't mean there's something wrong with you. And it doesn't mean there's something wrong with me. It means that our natures are incompatible. And that's okay. And you know, I want to have this conversation with you because I don't want us to end up hating each other. I don't want us to be mean to each other. I don't want us to like avoid seeing each other or talk shit about each other. I want us to go our separate ways and be cool and just understand that like,

we had some good times. We both grew as people and it's time to, you know, it's time to go a different direction and turn a page in a book. You know what I mean? And, um, just because you're the chapter three and I'm moving on to chapter four and I'm in your chapter three and you're moving on to chapter four, doesn't mean chapter three is fucking bad. And dude, when you can have a conversation like that with somebody for real, there is no ill feelings when you break up. There's no fucking anger. There's no madness. A lot of people are listening right now.

Oh, well, she cheated on me. Well, you know what? She probably cheated on you because of what I'm talking about. You probably grew. The nature's happened. There's no point in you hanging on to that. And you just let it go. Because all it does is fuck with

you and it fucks with you on how you're going to react now, how you're going to feel now and how you're going to feel about every relationship from now. So you just have to understand and chalk it up to like, Hey, you know what? And I think if people are honest with themselves, they'll know like, Hey, you know what? Things weren't good for a while while i wasn't happy for a while you know yeah there's a jealous part of me that doesn't want the other person to go out and be with anybody else but that's normal and we all get over that but but the the good part is now i get a fresh start i get to go be happy i get to find the people who like to go to uh the the park and have picnics and uh go on fucking boat rides and hold hands and do all the lovey shit.

And he gets to go out and grow his fucking business and work hard and do the shit that he wants to do. And, you know, we're both going to be happier. Right. That's how it should be. Yeah, absolutely. Dude, you know. I mean, it's amazing how commonsensical that is.

I know, dude, but people can't do it because they get too emotional and they blame the other person. It comes down to taking responsibility for your part. Yeah, that person might be an asshole. Yeah. That person might be a dick. Yeah. They might've been treating you bad, but the reason they're treating you bad and the way all this shit happens, and I'm not saying it's right, but it's because you guys have grown apart and the natures are different. And having that discussion with a person on a personal relationship or a business relationship or whatever, it's all the same. It's always the

same. You know, when I have to fire somebody, you know, if they started stealing or if they started, which never happens here, but let's just say they did. Let's say worse because people are going to say, well, what if they stole? All right, let's say they fucking stole. Well, the reason they stole is because they felt like they were getting fucked over. The reason they felt like they were getting fucked over is because something that wasn't right. We weren't seeing things the right way. So yeah, uh, you're fired bro, but I don't hate you. Like I hope you realize what you did was wrong, but our, our priorities are clearly not on the same fucking path and it's time for you to go do something that's going to make you happier. You see what I'm saying? Absolutely.

Like dude makes total sense. Yeah. And people Yeah. And people aren't adult enough to have those conversations. Dude, look at The Rock, man. He's a really cool example of, and this is a personal relationship, not a business relationship. But dude, it's funny because The Rock and his first wife, Dani, were married from college and she ran all his business and he you know he became successful and all this shit right and they decided to get divorced well usually in those situations where there's all kinds of fucking money involved in this and that what happens there's big fucking fights and tabloids it's this it's that no dude um they fucking separated went i'm sure they had a conversation just like i fucking had

they they separated they're great fucking friends she still runs all his business for him and he and she is married to his personal trainer okay and his personal trainer's old wife is married the rock so they switched but you know what they seem to be really fucking happy right and as weird as that is people are rolling their eyes right now as weird as that is you can't execute something like that without having a real adult conversation you know what i mean and dude you see you see how well they get all get along like it's it's okay yeah you know what i mean like people just don't think of it like that they get so fucking engulfed in like the emotions that they blame people. And like it causes unnecessary drama and hate and anger and fucking money expense. Right. Oh, I hate you because we're breaking up or I hate you because you didn't listen to me at the job. Well, now you quit and it just cost you a hundred thousand dollar a year job. You know what I mean you were angry at one for one fucking day you know what i mean yeah so let me uh flip this on its head and throw this out there for you because i'd love to hear what you have to say to this so

when i was a pastor one of the things that would happen sometimes is i'd be talking to somebody who you know had to end in a relationship and usually it wasn't a marriage usually it was just a you know and people would talk as if they were being compassionate like oh they're going to be so disappointed they're going to be so it's they're just going to fall apart arrogant yes that's the flip side of it that's exactly what i was going to say is that people yeah people have to have a gut check and realize that you're you know what this person's going to be fine without you well dude i think you know what's funny is like when you have to have those hard conversations usually the other person knows it's fucking coming anyway yeah because people are perceptive and they're in

tune with your energy and they're in tune with you know what they're getting back no nobody that i ever broke up with or fired or anything ever fucking didn't suspect it was coming they know it's coming right you know any friend that i don't hang out with anymore you know usually what happens and dude i've had this happen without even having a conversation with them. Like, Hey, you know, you're being a piece of shit to me. We're not going to be friends. I've just let them go. And they've come back to me years later and be like, you know what, dude, I wasn't very supportive or understanding about what you were trying to do. And I was a bad friend. You know what I mean? And like, dude, that just, that just indicates that like, dude, they've done some personal growth and you know what, you can open that book back up to

them again. You know what I mean? And let them back in because they understand that they fucked up and it creates opportunity for you to have a better relationship because now, you know, you might've went on five years ago when this, this, this, uh, breakup happened with your friend or your name or your mom or whoever, um, you might have gone one direction and that person went another direction. They realized that it was not the right one for them. And then they, they, they switched fucking, you know, their compass around and they end up going back towards where you are. And they're like, Hey bro, I get it. You know what I mean? Like I get it. I, I, my, my shit was fucked up. I wasn't a good friend. I didn't say the right things to you and I'm sorry. And dude, you know

what? I have friends that that's happened to that now I'm really good friends with again that I lost touch with for years because I didn't want to be around them. You know what I mean? Employees do that too. And sometimes you fire somebody like, dude, I've had a number of guys that we've had to let go or have left the company that have come back to me later and be like, bro, I'm sorry for what I did and this and that. And I just want to let you know, like, you know, I get it. I get, you know, and'm sorry for what I did and this and that. And I just want to let you know, like, you know, I get it. I get, you know, and you know what? I respect the fuck out of that. You know, I'm not going to hire them back probably, but there's situate, I have hired people

back. You know, there's, I'm actually physically looking at two guys right now that I had to fire that I hired back. Kevin's right out there behind you in the warehouse. Yeah. I was like, I haven't been fired. Yeah. And here's Tyler. You're you're right yeah a lot of people don't realize tyler got fired and fucking i hired him back yeah you know and now now when i fired him he was making fucking seven dollars an hour now he's making six figures doing fucking awesome work because he understood like hey i fucked up you know what i mean right, right. I mean, that takes humility on both your part and his part because it's humility on the sense of you giving him a chance, but there's also a certain humility of the person who was the offender

in saying, because if you're really prideful, you're really egotistical, you might just want to say, I don't want to mess with that guy again. I just want to move on. But to actually come back, you know what I'm saying? Hey, Vaughn, and there's a time for that. Yeah. there is a time where you just say fuck that dude and i'm fucking done with that guy and it doesn't matter what there there's a few people on my list like that right i ain't gonna lie and they've apologized to me and i'm still like fuck that guy so i mean well but i'm talking about the opposite because tyler could have just tucked his tail between his legs

and just never shown his face around here again but the fact that he's working here again oh meant that he was willing to put himself out there you know what i'm saying well yeah yeah i mean dude tyler tyler admits when he's wrong sometimes sometimes when you're wrong right yeah when i'm wrong which is never so but you know i mean dude people admit when they're wrong and like dude that comes down to the whole thing. Like, it's having adult communication. It's like saying, dude, remember we got that big argument about Summer Smash? And, like, dude, him and I got this huge argument about some shit. And you know what? Some of the shit I was right on that I was saying to him and some I was not right

because I didn't understand what he was trying to do. And so there was a compromise made. Oh, hey, bro, you know what? I'm sorry I fucking, you know, this is me. Hey, bro, I'm sorry i fucking you know this is me hey bro i'm sorry i fucking flipped out on you i didn't understand you were doing this and this and this and he's like well you know what i should have communicated that to you so that you didn't flip out and we were able to fucking resolve it and that's being a fucking adult you know what i mean and dude for two days him and i were both like fuck you man i mean this went on for a couple

weeks where we didn't even talk because we're both pissed. I didn't even feel like talking to anybody. We were both pissed off about it. You know what I mean? And like, but, but, you know, gather your fucking, you know, pride up and have a conversation and see what happens. You know, it's the easiest way to let it go because when you let that shit eat you, dude, like we always say, you only have so much energy in a day. When you let that shit eat you up, it takes that energy that you could be using on productive things and fucking just waste it you know what i mean right well on that note too i think it's again important to re-emphasize to people you you could have this conversation you could execute everything as compassionately and decisively as possible and it's still going to be. There's probably going to be people who still

get ticked off. And that doesn't mean that they didn't do it right. That doesn't mean that you didn't do it right. And I think that's important for people to know that whenever you're dealing with cutting somebody loose, you could do everything right in how you sit them down. And they can still be angry. And they'd still be angry. Right. And you know what? You have to take responsibility for your own actions. Yeah. And you have to let them take responsibility for their actions you know what i mean like we talked about a minute ago you have to be able to let them

have their reaction and whatever it is and just say well that's them that's not me i did what i knew was right i did what i had to do and if they're going to react that way then that's how they're going to react but you can't let that bother you you can't let that prevent you from making a decision so what would you think that fucking holds most people back in business and their career because they're afraid to make those hard decisions. And they agonize over them and they don't make them quick enough. And then it fucking causes more problems. Yeah. You know?

So what would you do in a situation where you sat somebody down and just said, hey, man, I mean, in so many worlds or less, I'm cutting you out of my life because you're dead weight. And their response was immediate. They're like, Oh gosh, you're right. I am. Would you put them on probation or would you proceed with caution? Okay. You'd proceed because it's easy to say, it's easy to say, yeah, you're right. I'm, I'm doing this and this and this. Would you still take a little step away from them for sure okay for sure it's easy for people to say what they ever whatever they need to on the on the fucking spot right you know what i mean right it's hard for them to switch actions in the course of a conversation especially those types of people that you're trying to cut out right exactly right they've been doing shit for years the same way. Right. Definitely.

Guys, kind of off the subject a little bit, we are really trying to encourage. We've got a lot of new listeners. In fact, our numbers are great. They keep on going up. But we're realizing that a lot of you have not heard some of our real classic episodes from earlier in the one through 70. I think the most important episode that everybody needs to listen to is the first one. You know what I mean? People don't listen to that enough. Like I have all these people being like, Oh my God, this was the first podcast. Uh, I can't believe that. I can't believe that. Yeah. And I'm like your story. Yeah. I'm like, well, I, you know, that's the

story. You know what I mean? You'll also see how much we improved since episode one. Well, that one and, you know, people sometimes ask like, you know, we want to help spread the movement. We want to spread the word about the MFCEO project. Do you guys have any recommendations about the ideal episode for like the entry point? And you definitely would say. I think episode 107. I think episode 107 and episode one, I think those two are the most powerful as far as like getting an idea of what this podcast is about. You know, episode 100, which was the review episode, right? Yeah. That was a good one.

That was good. We have one called the MFCAO movement. Yeah. I think it was 100. Yeah. I think it is 100. We kind of just. That's a good one for summarizing basically what the mission is. But I mean, that's the thing,

this is a project. It is a mission. It is something that we do. We do for free. We do it because we as a group here have been annoyed and frustrated and upset with the way society teaches people one thing for 20 years and then sets them off in a world that doesn't operate under those values. And so what our goal here is to get people to see things for what they are, become realistic, teach the real core values and principles of success, not teach you some way to trickily trade stocks or sell something or this or that. We're teaching you the real shit that entrepreneurs need to know to be successful, the actual skills. By someone who's actually done it. Yes. And the other thing is, we're teaching you the way to think, even if you're not an entrepreneur, as an entrepreneur, by making yourself the product and making yourself the item of value so that you can go out within a company thinking with the entrepreneurial mindset and earn more money.

Okay. We don't sugarcoat things. We're not going to tell you, quote unquote, the big secret. We're going to tell you the real shit. And we do it for free. You know, one thing I think worth mentioning to people is like, you know, the upcoming Entrepreneur Academy that we're going to open, you know, it's going to be very limited enrollment. It's going to be application. Everybody's got to fill out application.

I'm only going to take a certain amount of people. Everybody will be hand selected and to get into the academy. And I think we're going to expand upon the things that we talk about in the podcast in super, super micro detail so that you know exactly how to go out and make fucking money, how to go out and be successful, how to go out and take your small business and grow it into a fucking empire, not how to go out and be successful, how to go out and take your small business and grow it into a fucking empire, not how to trade penny stocks and not how to fucking, uh, you know, sell info programs to some, somebody, not how to, you know, trade Forex. We're talking about building a business for real. And this applies to fucking not only entrepreneurs, but all you lawyers,

all you doctors, all you chiropractors who go to school to learn a specific skill and know and have no fucking clue how to operate a business. And there's no one out there teaching that for the way that we teach it. And there's no one out there teaching it for real. And there sure as fuck is no one out there teaching it that has actually built nine figure companies. We're the only one. So keep an eye out for that. You know, like I said, it's going to be handpicked. It's limited availability.

And we'll open up application process in the very near future. Now, can I say something real quick? We're on this issue of spreading the word, joining, you know, spreading the movement. So with that being said, let's get those winners announced and then we'll come back and wrap up the podcast. Okay, so we've got five winners. Guys, thanks to everybody for your reviews. The first winner

is Drew's Custom Leather. That's how he submitted so I don't know his real name. But he's got kind of a cool thing going on. So that's the first one. Another guy is Alexander Hernandez, which he's got a company uh, company called bookie books. Cool. Cool. So, and then the medical mentors, another guy that I don't know his actual real name, but it looks like he's just killing it.

He's, he's kind of an entrepreneur in the healthcare space. Uh, Chris cuts, who is, uh, developing like some, uh, some nutritional bars, you know, like, bars like uh yeah so good stuff like that and then brett knight who is in the health care or not health care but uh fitness industry okay cool is that cool yeah those are the five winners guys i definitely uh am excited to talk to you guys and we'll get how do they get in touch to schedule them okay you're gonna email them. Okay, you're going to email them? Yeah, or DM or email them, whichever one. Okay, cool. Cool. Now, let's get back onto the podcast and just kind of wrap things up. You know, I've got like four points that I want to basically wrap up the idea of cutting negative people loose to help you guys have these conversations.

And, you know, that could be firing an employee as well. The bottom line guys is this all right it might be messy all right it's not going to be fun hard conversations are never fun to go to but you have to realize that you are doing the right thing and when you're a ceo of a company you're doing the right thing for you you're doing the right thing for the company you're doing the right thing for everybody else that is dedicated to moving the company forward and putting energy into it. And when you don't do those things, you're cheating all those people. In a personal relationship, instead of cheating all those people, you're cheating yourself. And you have to realize that doing the right thing

requires hard conversations all the time. Like I said a minute ago, it's not always, it's your fault. Sometimes it's just the fucking, people have gone down different paths and it's not always this, it's your fault. It's sometimes it's just the fucking people have gone down different paths and it's no longer compatible and there's nothing wrong with that. Um, number two, if you feel bad about hurting people's feelings, that that's okay. It just means you're a decent person. It doesn't mean you're being mean, but you have to understand that being firm is not equatable to being mean. Okay. And you being firm is a skill. You being mean is a liability. All right. So be firm, be direct, be factual and move forward. You know, don't hang up and let things fester and become negative negative and become these bad situations Because you can't have a hard conversation

It's not about the other people's feelings. It's about you and it's okay to be about you All right, number three if it's something that needs to be done. You got to do it fast All right The sooner you get it over with the sooner the conflict is over the sooner the get it over with, the sooner the conflict is over, the sooner the drama is over, the sooner you can move forward and move forward in a productive way and get these negative feelings out of your way. All right. That's extremely important in business. You know, dude, higher, slow fire fast. That's what I've always fucking abided by. All right. You guys should do the same, not only in your business business but in your personal life take a long time to let people in vet them properly and if they aren't what you think

they should be for you then part ways all right and number four you know and i want to remind uh you guys one more time that there's a difference between cutting off negative people and dropping dead relationships and failing to live up to your obligations. These are the kind of emails I get after these sort of podcast messages. You know, if you have a husband or a wife or some sort of family obligation, there's going to be sacrifice. There's going to be compromise. There's going to be communication and you're going to have to fucking man up and, and own those obligations. You, you can't just say, Oh, my wife doesn't believe me. And my husband doesn't believe me. And my kids are a fucking drag on my energy. Motherfucker. You're the one that had those kids.

It's your, your life is really no longer about you anymore. It's about you helping them. And then one of the best things you can do to help them, by the way, is become the peak of your potential on your own. You know, so that doesn't mean that you're supposed to cut those relationships out or get rid of them. I don't want to get any fucking emails about that. I don't want any dumb asses email me saying that. If you're too dumb to understand what I'm saying, then you probably are too dumb to even listen to this podcast. That's the bottom line. All right. So don't use me as an excuse to be some douchebag who skirts his responsibilities as a normal fucking human. All right. I get so sick of hearing that. It's like, I want to punch. I don't even respond when people say that, by the way.

I just let it go because it's just like, there's no talking to them. They're fucking retarded. No, they're just twisting everything I say. Yeah. So anyhow, that's that guys look, negativity takes away from your ability to function properly, whether in a business place, whether in your personal relationships. And at the end of the day, it's okay to be selfish about your energy. It's okay to be selfish about what you're trying to do and what you're trying to produce and where you're trying to go. And sometimes that's going to mean that you need to remove obstacles. And sometimes those obstacles come from people who are very close to you and those conversations are hard to manage. So if you have to have that conversation, guys, you know, listen back through the podcast, pick up the tips you need to have, you know, take a deep breath and go fucking have it. Cause I

promise you're going to feel better afterwards. 100%. All right, guys, look, if you enjoyed the podcast, if you thought it was awesome, if you got value out of it, please leave a review. And like we said, we do this for free. And our fee that we ask of you is that you refer one like-minded friend. So if you could make a post or if you could tell somebody to listen or if you could recommend the podcast, very, very much appreciated, guys. We're going to continue to do the best we can here for you.

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