REAL AF with Andy Frisella - Isolation, Transition, Second-Guessing Yourself, and Other Issues, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO46

Episode Date: February 11, 2016

How do entrepreneurs deal with loneliness and isolation?  When is the best time to transition from your current job to your dream scenario? What do you do when you second-guess yourself?  In this episode, Andy Frisella answers these and other questions from entrepreneurs.

Hey guys, what's up? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy and I am the motherfucking CEO. You know, I get emails all the time. What is an MFCEO? What is the MFCEO Project? I don't get it. All right, look, I like to cover this every few times we have a podcast for you guys that are new. The MFCEO Project stands for motherfucking CEO. All right. We're going to curse. We're going to get real. We're going to get, we're going to get raw. Um, and I'm not going to powder coat or powder puff any of the information that I, uh, send your way. All right. The point of the project is for people to get back to dealing with the facts of entrepreneurship, of life, of being a good human being, and ultimately teaching all of us how to become the motherfucking CEO of ourselves,

okay? And that doesn't mean being an uptight CEO with a fucking tie around our neck, you know, and some nerdy fucking loafers. I'm talking about being a bad motherfucker and walking through life with some authority, with some swagger and having a good fucking time while doing some good shit too. Okay. That's what the MSCO project is about. It's about bringing back the hustle that America was built upon. All right. So for those of you ask me what, first of all, what it stands for and second of all what it means that's what it fucking means all right we're gonna get into some q and a today with my co-host vaughn the impaler otherwise known as dj dj god what's up dude dude we got some

pretty amazing questions and i want to start out with one. All right. I just got this one through email. Let's just get right into it, man. So the question is, hey, Andy, this is from Action Factory, which— I know who Action Factory is, dude. Yeah, I see them all the time. They're always on my Instagram, always on Snapchat with me. All right. So it's cool, man.

Okay, well, his question—and he even ended it with a hashtag that he wants to, I guess, trend. Was it hustle porn? No, but it's- Hustle porn. All right. Hey, just so you know, all you motherfuckers listening right now, start using the hashtag with MFCEOproject.

Every fucking hashtag that you post, I want you to hashtag MFCEOproject and hustle porn. All right? Hustle porn. Not hashtag msco project and hustle porn all right hustle porn not hustler porn no hustle porn okay that's gonna be our fucking hashtag okay i like it well this is the this is the question right right yeah you were a pastor i don't know why you guys get exactly yeah right it's i'm gonna suppress sexual urges that you have for your whole entire life. Moving right along. So this is the question. Why is Vaughn's beard game slacking? And the follow-up is... Of course he'd want to talk about himself.

Of course. No Shave November will be here before you know it, and we are all praying for Vaughn's beard game to step up. Hashtag pray for Vaughn's beard game. You know how you get a good beard going when you can't? Like, I got all these guys. They're like, Andy, your fucking beard rocks. How do I get a beard?

You know how you get a good beard, guys? You got to fucking rub piss on your face. Okay. You piss on your hands and rub it on your face. All right. Tell me how that works out for you. Is it got to be human or can it be dog piss? It can be either.

But just do it and let me know how it works. Okay. All right. That sounds like a really legitimate solution. So I'm going to try that. I'm going to get like 700 emails. Andy, I actually did that. I fucking wrote piss on my face.

You mean like the guys that actually sent Tyler dick pics after you told him to do it? No, the best one was I didn't even say dick pics. I just said send him, and then I used the eggplant pics, and then everybody went and sent them pictures of real eggplants. It was fucking awesome. That's great. Yeah. We love you guys, man.

Yeah, we do. Our people are as sarcastic as we are, which is what makes it cool. We don't have many of these fucking uptight douchebags of society listening. So I appreciate the humor and the ability to play along. Nothing's worse than people that just take shit way too fucking serious. Very true. And a lot of people get me like that, right? They're like, dude, why are you always so mad at all your videos?

You're so angry. Motherfucker, I am not angry. I am intense. I want to fucking win. I take shit serious. It's not that I'm mad. I just want to fucking win. I want you to win. And I take shit serious. It's not that I'm mad. You know, I just want to fucking win. I want you to win.

And I take winning serious. But when I'm not trying to win, which is rare, I pretty much fuck off all the time. You know, and I tell jokes and I make fun of people. And, you know, if you follow me on Snapchat, you figure that out. So I picked up on yesterday, at least this was my perception, that yesterday I felt like you were in a really good mood. Yesterday?

That's because I have been eating clean. I've been training hard. I've been working out. We have that My Transformation Starts Today contest going on with First Form. And I've been using, you know, I've been back on our own products again, using them religiously. Dude, I'm feeling back on our own products again, using them religiously. Dude, I'm feeling fucking awesome. Yeah.

You know, and you're not the first person to say that, by the way. But it's amazing. You mean that you were in a good mood yesterday? No, I've just been in a good mood more because I've got all the pieces in play. Like, dude, getting the pieces in play, all of them is hard for anybody. You know, like, you know, these guys who are fucking ripped and in fitness shape all the time, usually their work area isn't as tight. You know what I'm saying? Or their relationship area isn't as tight.

Or some area, you know, their spirituality is out of line. Something that we need as humans is out of line. But right now, personally, you know, even though I'm still, you know, 50 pounds from where I want to be, which I had to lose 70 and I'm only 50 away. So do the fucking math. I'm killing it already. Yeah. I, you know, have all the pieces in play. You know what I'm saying?

I'm on top of my fitness. I'm on top of my business. I'm on top of my relationship. I'm on top of my, you know, spirituality relationships. And when you're in that zone and you get all those pieces together, man, it's a powerful state of mind, you know, and that's where I'm at. It's not that I'm in a good mood. It's that I've got everything fucking going the way I need it to. Yeah. And you know, it feels good. Yeah. You know, I, uh, I, I actually, we started a, a new, uh, we started a new project that I don't really want to say anything about because we don't have the finished product put up yet.

But we've built, me and Jason and our formulator, Ben, put together a product for brain function and cognitive function. About four or five years ago, we put this together. And it's a product that we made for us that I don't want to even really talk about it, but we're actually going to start offering it to the public. It's something that we just made for us. We just only did for us. Is it like the pills and limitless? It's yeah. I mean, basically it's, it's,

it's, it's a, it's an energy. It's not a fat burner. It's a fucking energy cognitive function, focused supplement. And, uh,

you know, if you know anything about the products that we manufacture at first form, we manufacture the fucking best products. And if you don't think they're the best and you ever buy a product from us, I'll give you 110% money back guarantee. If you think anybody makes a better product because they fucking don't right all right and this product is no different it's something that we made for ourselves but uh we never really thought about selling it and the reality of you know what the impact it's made it's almost um it's almost hard it's hard to describe the impact that it makes on me personally

when I'm taking it versus when I'm not taking it. So it's something that we've got coming out. It's going to be called Master Brain, which is what the name of the product is going to be. But we won't have that out for, I don't know, at least a couple more weeks. And when we do, I'll talk about it and tell everybody about it. But, I mean, it's going to be some really, really good shit. I've been using it for four or five years.

Awesome. Awesome. Something that, you know, I believe in and part of what you're saying, you know, Oh, you're in a good mood.

That's, you know, that's part of the reason why I'm back on that product. Right. So, right. That's as you could tell. I mean,

you could tell my attention has been on a different level too. Right. In terms of like focus. Yeah. So. Right. That's awesome. As you can tell, I mean, you can tell my attention has been on a different level, too. Right. In terms of, like, focus. Yeah. No, for sure. And that's what really helps me because I'm a fucking million mile an hour dude. And to get my attention for even 10 seconds is really fucking hard to do. Right.

Because when you're talking to me, I'm thinking about the 10 other things that I need to do right now. So. It's true, folks. Yeah. It helps. So. So, at this point, I have to. I see you've right now. It's true, folks. Yeah. It helps. So at this point, I have to- I see you've learned to deal with it, too. I have.

You just be quiet until you know you've got my focus, and then I start talking. No, actually, in all seriousness, it's kind of fun to become a student of you and figure out what works the best for you, which is what I try to do with everybody I know. Yeah, and you figure it out. But most people don't. Most people just fucking talk anyway and see what you figured out is something that almost nobody else that I think of has figured out yet, is that you just don't talk because you know I'm not paying attention.

Other people will talk, and they'll talk anyway in that time when I'm linked into other information. Even though I'm looking at them right in the face, and I'm not listening, and they'll talk anyway in that time when I'm linked into other information. Even though I'm looking at them right in the face and I'm not listening. And they'll talk and I don't fucking hear a word they say. So here's my take on that. And the reason that I came to the conclusion that that was the best thing to do is that when you're locked into something, you're locked in. Oh, dude. So there's no point in me talking. It could be an earthquake.

It could be a fire. I wouldn't even notice Yeah The good news about that Is that when you do turn your attention to somebody I know you're locked in Yeah right Exactly

So that's great Anyway let's do some Q&A Alright Q&A So do you want to start with the heavier questions Or the soft pitches It doesn't matter man Alright we'll just start with this one Because honestly

We've gotten this a lot Okay And that is We've gotten a question And this I think ties in a little bit to Something you addressed we've gotten this a lot. Okay. And that is, um, we've gotten a question in this, this, I think ties in a little bit to something you addressed a podcast or two ago where you talked about depression, but we've had a lot of people say, man, when I'm working my plan and I'm doing

my entrepreneurial thing, it can feel real lonely and real isolated. Like how do you endure that? Or what are just general comments about that you know I had this question on Instagram actually yesterday very very similar question I wonder if it's not the same person that asked it but um it said something in regards to you know if you step out in your dreams you're stepping out alone and nobody's with you and this and that and And that's what people, that's what it seems like when you first start out. Like when you first start out in a business idea, it's going to seem like you're alone because you're surrounded by, you know, quote unquote average folks. Okay. And that's your circle. So you step out, you're alone, right? But eventually what happens is, is you find a new

group that is also entrepreneurial minded and you go with that. So, I mean, it's it's it's perception. It's like a it's a transition, you know, so it's not a lonely thing. Like there's people that understand it. I mean, I have my circle of friends and some of them are even competitors that I talk to on a fucking daily basis. They like do we like console each other almost like, hey, bro, are you having a fucking daily basis that like, dude, we like console each other almost like, Hey bro, are you having a fucking terrible month? Yeah, I am too, man. I mean, that's, it's you, you find new friends and those friends, you know, understand what it is that you're going through. And that's the way it is. It's just a transition. So to say like entrepreneurship is lonely, no fucking way, man, because like, dude, and, and like, dude, and here's the cool thing

that people don't realize is that the quality of your relationships gets so much better. Right. You know, like, dude, when I when I was like, because I've always been an entrepreneur, but I'm saying like in the early phases of business, I hung around like, quote unquote, like regular Joe dudes. And there's nothing wrong with regular Joe dudes. I like them. I prefer to hang with those guys. But I don't listen to them when they start talking about their fucking shit that they talk about when they get drunk. Like, oh, fucking my boss sucks and blah, blah.

I don't. Like, dude, do you want to have a fucking beer with your friend who's a fucking regular Joe dude? Good. I love people like that. But you got to learn when to fucking turn your ears off. You know what I mean? Absolutely.

So, you know, the qualities of the relationships are so much better once you find that new group than they were before. Um, in terms of like, you know, the conversations had, the friendships had the bonds that are made because of how much you have in common. And like, dude, you know, I see people a lot of times really shy away from the entrepreneur life because they think they're going to be alone well no you're not going to be alone you're just not going to be with the same people you were with right you know what i mean right i think you nailed it with the with the word quality because i think anytime anybody can commit

themselves to excellence whether it's an entrepreneurialism or sports or whatever well that's also why when you're an entrepreneur like a lot of your good friends will become athletes right a lot of my fucking really good friends i talked to were either ex-athletes or are athletes because not because they're out there chasing a goal is chasing a goal being competitive is being competitive you know what i'm saying the process of athletics is the same as entrepreneurship. And so you build those common values, and you're not just sitting around looking for what cow you're going to go tip next. Right. And when you transition out of the crowd,

I think people are right that there is that period of time where you're not around a lot of people because when you're average, you're part of the crowd. And when you're not average, you start leaving that behind. So I think— Right. And that crossover time is when you feel alone. Right. That's when you're average you're part of the crowd and when you're not average you you start leaving that behind so i think right i think crossover time is when you feel alone right that's when you cross over but what you really it's i love the word that you use you use quality because what what excellence ends up doing is you trade in quantity for quality that's right so that's right so and the relationships are that much deeper and better look man you know i had i had somebody tell me you know how many real friends do you fucking have now?

I'm like, not many. And that's the way I fucking want it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. I don't want a fucking million people around me. Right. I don't.

First of all, you know, I don't I could get on. I go on a fucking long rampage here, but I'm not. The bottom line is, is that that loneliness is a temporary perception. Right. You're going to transition into a new group. You're going to find new people to connect with, and those relationships are going to be much better than the ones you have now.

Yeah, let me use another weird analogy. There's a young woman that my wife and I know, and she's beautiful and intelligent and just all these incredible qualities, all right? She can't find a guy to save her life. And everybody's always saying like, well, what's the matter with her? And our answer is there's absolutely nothing that's the matter with her. It's exact opposite.

She's of such high quality that there's just not a lot of dudes on her level. And so I think part of the loneliness that people experience might be a real indication that they're the right kind of person, that they're doing something right. Oh, yeah, no question. That they're isolating themselves because they're so committed to it. Dude, you think there's something wrong with you?

Yeah. Like, dude, you know, I read an awesome fucking book on this. A good friend of our company, her name is Paula, she recommended a book to me called me called relentless by Tim Grover. And I've talked about it on my Snapchat before, but dude, that book is so awesome for people who are like entrepreneurs for a number of reasons.

But the biggest thing I took away from that book was that there's nothing wrong with the way that I fucking think. Like I used to look in the mirror and be, cause dude, everybody literally would, will point at you like dude when you're super ambitious and super hungry and super entrepreneurial and wanting to fucking like literally conquer shit like that's how i am i'm like a i'm like triple a entrepreneur killer you know what i'm saying like we talk about gary that's what gary's like gary gary v right you know what i'm saying there not, there's levels of entrepreneurship.

Okay. And that's how I am. I'm like fucking triple a, I want to go fucking destroy earth and do it my way. There's not a lot of those people, but we, that group of people, you want to talk about having a fucking hard time finding people to relate to. You know what I mean? So, you know, most entrepreneurs can find like other quote unquote sane entrepreneurs. You know, I'm like the kind of dude that like, it's all I fucking do and all I talk about and all I think about. And that book was cool because it made me realize that I'm not alone in that matter. I've only met, I've only met two other people in my life ever. And I'm not even gonna say who they are, but two other people in my life that I can honestly relate to that are like me in that manner, too. In my whole fucking 36 years of life.

Right. You know what I mean? No. So read that book if you're an entrepreneur and you want to. Is that the sports agent? Yeah, yeah. No, no. He's a trainer.

He's Michael Jordan's trainer. And Kobe's, I think, right? Yeah, Kobe's. A bunch of dudes. Relentless. He's a badass motherfucker. I would love to get Tim Grover on the fucking podcast. Yeah, Tim Grover.

Call us. Yeah, he's badass. Yeah, so we'll slap up a link. He looks bad, too. Like, he looks badass. Yeah. Like, he's, like, clean cut and, like, a good-looking dude. Yeah.

But he has that look like, I'll fucking kill you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, he's just, like, he's scary. Like, I look at him, and I'm like, I don't look at many people and think, dude, that guy looks scary. Like, that dude looks fucking scary. Do you think he started out looking that way, and that helped determine his success?

Or do you think he developed that killer look? I think if I didn't know what he was about, I wouldn't think that of him. I would just be like, that's a good-looking dude. Yeah. But he just looks like he, but after reading the book, I'm like, fuck, dude, I don't want to train with that guy. Yeah. Fucking kill you. Yeah. I don't really notice if guys are guy. Yeah. Fucking kill you. Yeah.

I don't really notice if guys are good looking. I mean, other than Tyler. I do because I'm secure in my sexuality. That's going. I set myself up for that one. I could admit if dudes are good looking or not. Don't bother me. All right.

I prefer the females. So. So hopefully that that answered the question of isolation and loneliness. I think it did. The other question that we get a lot, and I think it obviously depends on who you are. You know, Andy's answer is going to depend on who you are. But this question of transition, you know, like people that are in 40-hour jobs that they hate, they've got dreams. But they're like, how do I phase out of this job and into my dream?

I mean, you know that there's different people or different life situations. But generally speaking, what would you tell them? Dude, you know, the funny thing about this question is that almost everybody who asks it asks it before they started their business. They're like, it's like they're trying. And this goes back to the same thing that I've said a million fucking times. You cannot plan this out. This will not go as planned no matter how carefully

you decide to map out this plan it will be different than what you think it will be okay and every time i get that question i ask people i said well how long have you been in business well i haven't yet but i'm trying to figure out how to transition well the first step would be to start a fucking business. Okay? Because this is a simple fucking answer. Very fucking simple. What do you, Vaughn, you could answer this question. What do you think would be the logical time to transition from your real job?

Actually, I'm going to ask fucking Tyler. Tyler, what would be the logical time if you started a business to transition from your job to running your own business immediately you think immediately immediately now how big of a transition are we talking about transitioning to where you're not working at all in your other job and you're working a hundred percent in your new business uh i, as long as you can take care of your bills. There you go.

That's it. Right. That's it. That's it. How many businesses have you fucking run? You know, really? I can't even run my own job. Dude, yeah, you can.

But the point is, is that, dude, everybody knows the answer to that question. Right. Did you know the answer to that question? Yeah. Everybody fucking knows the answer. When's the answer that question yeah everybody fucking knows the answer when's the answer the answer is when you could pay your fucking bills and survive on the new job then you fucking cut the old one loose and you move forward right this this whole question of the transition comes from people who are fucking terrified to even start a business right because

it actually works itself out really fucking easy. So whoever asked that question, go start a business. But I bet you won't because of the nature of the question tells me you're too fucking scared to do it. Yeah, and let me throw this out there. I actually got married a lot later in life. I didn't get married until I was 38. And I got to tell you, to all you single people out there, any one of those years after college or even before,

I could have quit my job before I could have I could have I could have quit my job and I could have made it work because I mean but if the fear is so big dude the fear is so big yeah people they're like but I mean you can live at you can live at friends house you can you can defer your yeah you don't want to give up the little luxury that's the issue they got a fucking apartment you know they got a 600 700 a month apartment they got a fucking 50 inch tv screen and they got their playstation they don't give their shit up right and they don't want to give up with beers with the fucking buddies and they don't want to give up date night and they don't want to give up you know social time and they don't want to give up going to the cardinals game they don't want to give that shit up right so if

you don't want to give that up that's fine but don't fucking cry about it right you know what i'm saying because dude for you to get your business going you're going to have to give some shit up you know what i'm saying absolutely so you asking this question about when to transition is really fucking simple and for all you little delicate flowers out there that are listening and thinking the same, well, Andy, you're being very harsh. I'm being harsh for a fucking reason. Because maybe entrepreneurship isn't for you. Because that question would take care of itself. Next question.

Yeah. I love it. Okay. So, Andy, how do you determine the difference between second guessing yourself and honest introspection? Honest analysis. It feels the exact same. Okay. Your job.

Okay. I'm going to tell you how I do this. And I learned this from my dad. All right. And we talk about my dad a lot. I don't have any fucking heroes in life. I don't. I have my dad.

My dad did a fucking great job raising me, in my opinion. He taught me a lot of shit. and this is something that he taught me. I didn't make this up, so I'm going to give credit to him. You have to pretend that you work for you, okay? You are an employee of you, all right? When you make decisions, you have to, like, pretend that you are looking at you and as a CEO and this guy has come to you, you have come to you. All right. And asked you the question, should I do this or should I do that?

Do you get what I'm saying? Absolutely. Because it removes all emotion from the decision and you can make the decision clearly. So like the difference between. So I'm actually saying, imagine you're, I'm being literal. Yeah.

Imagine yourself. You're you, and then you have you that comes to you as an employee and he works for you and he comes to you and he says,

Mr. Frisella, I've got this concern, I've got this concern. What would you tell that person? And that's the right answer. That way you take out all the emotion, all the fucking like, and that's how you could tell like,

what is like paranoid, crazy second guessing stuff and actual being self-aware. You know what I mean? Cause it feels the same when you try to do it without think like, that's how I conquered it. You know, when I have a hard decision, I turn it straight over to like what I would tell an employee

if they came to me with that. I've only heard that one other time in my entire life, and that was somebody who knew a lot about people who struggled with dealing with internal anxiety, like overwhelming anxiety. And the way they put it is, you don't let yourself talk to you, you talk to yourself. That's right.

You're the boss of you. You're the motherfucking CEO of you. Yeah. So when yourself talk to you. You talk to yourself. That's right. You're the boss of you. You're the motherfucking CEO of you. Yeah. So when you comes to you, when you come to yourself, the MFCEO of you, the bad motherfucker of you, and that guy comes to you with a whiny little issue, am I second guessing myself or am I blah, blah, blah? What should I do? What the fuck do you think you should do? The answer is obvious.

Don't go fucking do it. Right. That's the answer. Get it? Yeah. That's how you do it. And I love the objective nature of that too because if you cast it in that way,

it takes all the personal about it. It takes all the bullshit out. Yeah. No, I love it. That's how I do it. I don't know any other way to do it. I was taught that, and it fucking works. Yeah. That goes how I do it. I don't know any other way to do it. I was taught that and it fucking works.

Yeah. That goes for any, but any decisions, by the way, you know, when I'm here at work, you know, I've got fucking dude,

I've got my best friends in the world. My, my two best friends in the whole entire world work for me or work with me. Chris is my business partner. Scott Halsey, who runs our warehouse has been my best friend since we were fucking 13 years old. He runs our distribution nationally, you know, for first form. Did he go to be on it?

Yeah. And I've got my brother here. Yeah. You know, how the fuck am I supposed to put, let me just turn this over into another situation because we get this question. How do I work with my friends and how do I manage my brother? You're not managing your fucking brother. You're managing a motherfucker that you pay to do a job.

Get it? Different thing. You walk out the doors, you're brothers. You walk in this, you know, you're here, we're in this building. No, you're not my brother. You are fucking paid to do a job. Get it? It's not the same thing.

And you have to be able to separate those things. You know, letting emotions and relationships and friendships and blah blah blah all this shit and if somebody doesn't get it let's say the other guy doesn't get it you handle it that way he doesn't get it you got to pull him aside say look man you're you're you're not scott holsey my best friend since i was 14 years old you're in charge of our fucking distribution for our company and if you don't do this right it hurts everybody in our company blah blah blah blah blah blah blah so i'm gonna handle it like that i'm gonna handle it if it was like anybody else right you're not getting any special you know pats on the back because we drink fucking beer

together and used to smoke weed together in high school i'm sorry you're not getting it get it right that's how you do it and your real friends and your quality family members will totally respect that no question yeah if they don't, then yeah. And you don't even have to manage them like that because that's – they work their asses off because we're all in it together, right? That comes down to having the right culture. But what I'm telling – I am answering a question that I get a lot. You know what I mean? And if you instill the right culture in your company, you're not going to have that problem anyway.

But, you know, most people don't know what that means. What's the culture of your company? Oh, we have a good culture. What's that mean? Well, you know, we like have fucking casual Fridays. Like, dude, come on. Yeah. Yeah.

So got an email just now as you were talking. It fits right into you don't have heroes necessarily but you know your dad's your hero but the rock you well the rock you do rock is the rock i'm quickly working to make the rock a pier yeah okay yeah i like the rock that's a great statement i like the rock that's one of your best every day i come to work every day i wake up in the morning i am working to make the rock a fucking peer a buddy you know what i'm saying i love it i'm not gonna fucking i'm not i'm not trying to wait in line for an hour to meet the rock i'm trying to call him on my cell and be like bro let's hop on the fucking

plane and roll to fucking vegas you know what i'm saying like dude so don't get it twisted i'm not he's not my fucking hero he's gonna be my best friend one day, though. I'm serious. No, I know you're serious. I'm laughing because I know you're serious. I love The Rock, dude. The Rock is the coolest dude ever, man. No, I agree. So this person's question is basically all of the things being equal, Andy,

they'd like to see kind of like a little window in to who you value and what you'd like to learn from people. If you could take an hour or two in this Legion of Boom headquarters meeting room and you could pick three to five people, any three to five people on the planet to just rub elbows with and pick their brains and gain a business context. Yes, and they have to be alive. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Anything. Anything that's going to benefit you as a person and develop you as a person. Are we talking about hanging out and drinking beer? Are we talking about having a business meeting? Because it's two different things. Let's say it's a business meeting here, but they're bringing in beer.

All right. Dude, for sure, I want The Rock here. Okay. For sure. Okay. Because I think he's a fucking smart dude on top of all his persona. I think the dude's a genius. Okay. For sure. Okay. Because I think he's a fucking smart dude on top of all his persona. I think the dude's a genius.

Right. He's got a great story. He started from nothing. He's transitioned from one being super successful one career into another career. I think he's got a lot of great information to offer. And I think the guy's got a great moral sense about him. And I would like to have that opinion of something.

Nice. Are we building like a board of of directors yes look at it look at it that way like these are your life advisors yeah i i would like to rock i like to rock okay i would have my dad there for sure yep okay um my dad is my dad knows this fucking shit and he's always got good insight. I would have Gary Vee there because Gary sees things that other people don't see, especially when it comes to technology and social media. So that's three. Pick a woman. I don't know. You know, like, I think, I think if I had to pick a woman, I would pick Oprah.

And I think people laugh at that and they make fun of that. But, but I think Oprah is a fucking very, very fucking intelligent, deliberate person. I think she understands how to create a culture i think she understands how to make that culture work and make it work for the benefit of herself and the people that she cares about right you know um i don't i'm not an oprah fan i actually think that's an excellent choice because i think people that can't look past their disagreements with others to see what they do well. I don't like a lot of the shit that she says.

Yeah. Like, you know, it's not that I don't like what she says. I think she always sends good, positive messages. I just don't. It's too fucking, like, feel good and touchy-feely for me. You know, the opposite of my nature. And, like, you know, it's just not for me. But I think she's a genius.

So, you know, I would pick her. And that great quote of hers that if I, if I knew I would make so much money being myself, I would have done it a lot earlier. Exactly. It's a great quote. Right. And she's had, she's had tremendous life experience. You know, you talk about Oprah, man, you know, that's somebody, she was pregnant at like 13 years old. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She, and I think, dude, I'm pretty sure it was the victim. She was a victim of rape, I think. I don't know enough about it. It was something crazy, dude. Like, crazy story.

Yeah. You know, coming up and, like, I mean, dude, she's just got a tremendous story. She has a lot of experience and a lot of life experience. I would love to have a conversation with her. Right. And her production company, hands down, best documentary on The Rock I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah.

I mean, dude, she gets it, man. So, yeah. So, who do we got? We on The Rock I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah. I mean, dude, she gets it, man. So, yeah. So, who do we got? We got The Rock. We got my dad. We got Oprah. Oprah, Gary Vee, and you got one more person. Throw one more person out there.

Richard Branson? No. I'm not a big Richard Branson. I want to have him on the show, so you should probably not say that. I'm not saying I'm not a fan. It's just I'm not a student of him. Oh, I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. Man. I guess, you know, can I pick six? Yeah, and I would like to hear a coach that you'd like to have in the room. A coach? Yeah. If there's any coach that you'd like to have in the room a coach yeah if there's any if there's any coach that you you know um dude there's so many coaches that that i think i i have different styles you know what i'm saying so it'd be hard to pick a coach because i like certain coaches

for different reasons um if i had to pick an all-time coach it would be uh john wooden but you know he's passed away right um i would say other than the that group that i said you know i think um i don't know man you know i don't i don't really know. That's okay. I can edit this part out. No, you don't have to. I mean, we let people fucking... It's a legit thing, I'm thinking.

I think Elon Musk is a fucking brilliant dude, but the problem with him is I think he's so brilliant that I would have a problem relating to him. And even though I'm a fucking intelligent person, I think he thinks so brilliant that I would have a problem relating to him. And even though I'm a fucking intelligent person. Right. You know, I think he thinks on a different level clearly than I would. And I don't know like what value I could get from that. Right.

Right. So, you know, I like him. I like what he's done. He's just crazy smart. But I have a feeling it would exceed my ability to utilize that information. Yeah, well, and not to take anything away from him, but I think that truly world-changing intelligent people are people who think on a level that's so much higher than everybody else,

but they're so intelligent that they can put it in ways that everybody understands. Yeah, maybe. I mean, you know. Or at least. Dude, I like Tony Robbins, man. You know, you know like dude i've always looked up to tony robbins i think tony robbins is a great dude you know i've had people i've heard people say oh he's a he's fake no it's a fucking show okay it's a skill you know i think what he does is amazing and you guys inspired trillions of people you know i i would i would fucking love to any of people, you know, I, I would, I would fucking love to any of those people,

you know, and I have a good relationship with Gary and clearly my dad, but, you know, any of those other people, you know, I would love to spend time with, you know, um, I think, I think Tony Robbins is, is highly underrated in his, in, in his world influence that he's created. I think he's probably created more millionaires than anybody that's ever existed ever, you know? Um, and I, I think that I admire the guy for that. I would love to have him in my corner. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but other than that, you know, I, I can't really think of,

I'm sure I'm missing some obvious choices, but there's so many good people out there. It's just hard to, hard to pick. Yeah. Tyler, how are we doing on time? How many, how many minutes? 40 ish. Okay. Okay. So last question, Andy, you, you are obviously a driven person over the course of your life and your business career, had there been certain motivations that have driven you that have come and gone? What are those and do they ever serve a useful purpose like in specific situations? And then what have been the motivations that have been consistent that have driven you over time? That question makes sense. Yeah. Okay.

First of all, your motivating factors are going to change. You know, when I started in business, and I talk about this when I talk live, you know, my idea was to make millions of dollars and be a fucking baller and have naked chicks on my yacht and just be, you know, that kind of a dude with fucking nice cars and just, you know, amateur kid shit, you know? Right. And Dan Bilzerian, you know.

Right. Basically embodied. Right. And I was like, fuck yeah, dude. That's what I'm going to do. And that, you know, owning shit, having enough money to own shit and do shit was an extremely large motivating factor for me whenever I was young. You know, own a fucking Lamborghini, own a fucking, this kind of house, own that, own this, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah. Um, that is usually the motivation for people when they start in business, they want to fucking have money so they can buy shit. Right. Um, you know, as you develop a company and as you grow more mature, remember I was 19 years old when I started my company. I think that those motivations are very in line with a 19 year old kid. Right. You know, as I grew and as we matured and as we grew a company, you start seeing more of a human element to the company.

You have employees, you know, first a few, then a few more, and then a lot. And those people have families. Those people have kids. those people have kids, those people have responsibilities and you, you, you take on a different responsibility as the

owner. And it's not about, you know, just you having shit. I mean, for some owners, it is like some owners don't give a fuck about their employees and those people are failing right now. But, uh, you know, it becomes more of a moral obligation to these people that fucking come in day in and day out and hustle for you to take care of them and grow the company put in a position to where they can you know survive and uh and thrive and you know that you know the original motivation transitions into that motivation i think if you have any sort of like, you know, moral values to you,

you know? So, so, um, and then what happens is what you end up realizing is that, and I talk about this a lot too, but nobody really ever fucking gets it. And I don't expect people to get it because they haven't been through it.

But what ends up happening is you end up realizing that doing the right thing is what makes you the most money. Um, when it comes to like developing your product marketing and all these things that go into business. And so like you start off chasing the money and you kind of grow up and you become an adult and then you focus on providing value and it starts with providing value for your employees. But then it goes to your customers. How can I provide more value to them and how do I care about them more? And dude, that's when your company will fucking explode. Right.

And I try to, I try to preach that as much as I can, but man, it's hard to get that through to somebody who's not making any money. Right. Right. You know, they're, they're, it's hard to get that through to somebody who's not making any money. Right. Right. You know, they're, they're, they're not, first of all, they're not making any money. Second of all, they are, they're 19 year old Andy for Sella. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right.

So it's just hard to get through to them sometimes. So just a recognition that there's going to be an evolution in your motivation. I mean, there's going to be a consistency, but there's going to be an evolution. I talked about with the transition from your group of friends, there's going to be a consistency, but there's going to be an evolution. Just like I talked about with the transition from your group of friends, there's a transition from phases of what your motivation is. And like, dude, some of the things will stay. Like he asked or she asked, what are the constants?

Like, dude, some things do stay. Like, I like fucking nice cars. Like, the 19-year-old Andy likes nice cars. The fucking 36-year-old Andy likes nice cars like the 19 year old andy likes nice cars the fucking 36 year old andy likes nice cars that's never gonna change i like cars when i was fucking seven years old you get what i mean absolutely so that's a constant thing so like now i have cars that i want that are expensive that i've got to fucking work my balls off to get so you know it sounds and a lot of people are cars let's fuck car well dude unless you're a car person you don't fucking get it right you know a lot of people like well you fucking spend a million dollars on a car

well you're not a car person you look at cars as a form of transportation i look at cars as fucking functional art right you don't get it right you know what i mean and if you don't get it don't judge it right you know right so yes there's things that are constantly motivational um you know and like dude for me now my transition is even even happening now you know now my my transition isn't it leads into why i do this you know why am i doing this why am i sitting at three o'clock in the afternoon on a fucking microphone when I could be doing real work for my company. Right. Why am I doing that? Because I want to make a fucking impact and I see a need that needs to be filled and I'm not getting paid to do this. You know, I see a problem. I'm trying

to fix it. And what does that equate to? I'm trying to fucking matter. Right. Okay. So your motivations will always evolve, always evolve. Yeah. You know, and I see people who are like, oh, just want the fucking money. I don't, dude, you're a fucking immature entrepreneur. And by immature, I don't mean like immature, like 12 years old. I mean like you're in the beginning stages of being an entrepreneur. And then you become middle-aged and you become adult, just like in life. Yeah. You know?

So when you're an adult entrepreneur, the world is much bigger than it is than, than, than you are. You see what I'm saying? Very, very true. So very, very true.

Well guys, thanks so much for your questions. We'll tackle some more Q and a at some point in the future. Yeah. We're going to do Q and a more regularly. We, uh, you know,

we've been doing the Thursday thunders. Um, I, I dig Q and a, you know, I think we get, I think we can tackle questions uh you know we've been doing the thursday thunders um i i dig q a you know i think we get i think we can tackle questions you know because i get the same shit over and over man like over and over and over and over and over and i'm like what the fuck man like weren't you watching five minutes ago you know or listening you know so i like doing the q a yeah so i did get some feedback uh that i think is is, and that is that we've added several

new listeners. And as crazy as it is for us to think about this, people don't necessarily automatically know where to find us on social media platforms. So why don't you go ahead and share your- Yeah, guys. I'm very active on Instagram, at Andy Fursella. Very active on Snapchat, which is at MFCEO dash one. Um, very active on Periscope, which is at Andy for Sella and I'm Andy for sell on Facebook too. Uh, Facebook, I'm, I'm not as

active as I am on Periscope and Instagram, but I'm there. Nice. And guys, my longer videos get posted there. I don't do YouTube. So like when I do my long videos, which I have quite a few of them, they get posted on Facebook, so it's worth a follow there. Definitely. And I'm Vaughn Kohler on everything. At V-A-U-G-H-N-K-O-H-L-E-R. And Tyler is at MyTyler, something like that. M-A-I underscore Tyler. And my Snapchat's on that.

Yeah. Cool. So we're branded with our names, and you have all these different ones that people have to keep checking. I don't have different ones. I only have one different one. Oh, you do? Yeah, Snapchat. No.

Which Gary's fixing for me. Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. That's good. Guys, once again, thank you so much. Final word? Final word is send me your questions. Ask, or no, I'm sorry, andyatthemfco.com.

Don't send me your business proposals. Send me your sorry, andyatthemfco.com. Don't send me your business proposals. Send me your questions. andyatthemfco.com. Cool. Take it easy, guys.