REAL AF with Andy Frisella - The End, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO318

Episode Date: December 10, 2019

And now...the final episode of The MFCEO Project podcast (which, by the way, has language and adult humor that is not suitable for kids. Use your brains. Be a good parent.)  

I told my teacher, dumb bitch, I'm gonna get millions In a project livin', spoke it to existence Mode changed to 50, got more cars than did I only weigh 180, but my watch cost 250 What's up guys, you're listening to Real AF, my name is Andy Fursella A lot of you guys know who I am, and some of you don't You're probably wondering, who the fuck is this guy? Well, I'm gonna tell you something

I'm someone who fucking cares. Okay? I can't be the only motherfucker on the face of the earth that thinks the world is crazy. I can't be the only one looking around wondering what is wrong with everybody. I can't be the only one looking around thinking, holy shit, we're going the wrong way. I know I'm not. I know you think it too. That's why you're here. I am joined by my co-host, the pastor of disaster, otherwise known as DJ DJ God, sometimes known as Von Kohler.

And he's here in the flesh right in front of me. All the way from, where are you from? Kansas. Kansas? Yeah, man. Bro, Kansas are you from? Kansas. Kansas? Yeah, man. Bro, Kansas? So much has happened. Come on.

I know. People who follow us are going to be a little confused. Wait, I thought you lived in St. Louis. I did live in St. Louis, but I wanted to move back home, and that's what I did. And now, it's a little longer commute to come hang out with you. It sure is. Five hours between here and Manhattan, Kansas, but I love it, and it's good little longer commute to come hang out with you. It sure is. Five hours between here and Manhattan, Kansas. But I love it, and it's good to be home.

And I tell you what, man, but I'm excited about the ongoing conversation between Andy Frisella and Vaughn Kohler. Yeah, I am too. So, dude, I got to ask, and this is legitimate, and if you're in Kansas and this offends you, well, you should probably fucking move because it's true. What the fuck is in Kansas, bro, that's good? Because the only thing I've ever seen of Kansas is when I stole a car and drove it from Denver to fucking St. Louis.

Really fucking fast. No, I get it. I get it. So, like, I looked around and I saw a couple windmills. I saw a couple farms. And then I came back to civilization. So what is in Kansas, bro? Well, first of all i totally

understand you being from missouri and wondering what's good about kansas because the whole animosity between kansas and missouri goes back to the civil war and the border war and of course literally for the last 100 200 years in athletics we've been kicking your butts on pretty much every level so so i understand i get it i get it what sport like well the jayhawks have pretty much every level. So I understand. I get it. I get it. What sport? Well, the Jayhawks have pretty much owned the Tigers. Wait, wait, wait. Outside of the Kansas Jayhawks, what else? Well, K-State has a pretty good record against the Tigers, I think, in football. K-State is garbage, bro.

Dude, they're not. They're 8-4 this year. They're fucking garbage. Who'd they lose to this year? Well, they lost to Texas. They did lose to Texas. And you try to talk shit. I have it on good authority that that game was fixed.

Oh, okay. God tell you that? Yes. If God loves you so much, how come Kansas lost? Kansas State lost. Teach me humility. Oh, okay. All right.

You can't win too much, man. Hey, winners win, bitch. That's the truth. That's right. So, no, but to answer your question, what's good in Kansas, for me, it's just home. There's a great philosopher, Yifu Tuan, who said, tell me where you're from and I'll tell you who you are. And Kansas has shaped me more than anything else, I think, other than my faith and my marriage. It gave you a pretty aerodynamic

haircut. It did. It gave me a very, it blew all the hair off. It literally shaped you. Yeah, it definitely did. But I'll tell you something that I missed, and I love the good people of St. Louis, but St. Louis is a big city, you know? And you always made fun of me that I was kind of this hipster coffee shop nerd. Because you are. Yeah, kind of I am. But one of the things that I really missed was every Saturday morning in particular, I would go to my favorite coffee shop in Manhattan, Kansas, Blue Stem Bistro.

And there was a group of guys that I just had great conversations with about life. Are they still there? They're still there. Are you sure? One of them was alive and went to see Elvis. Have you reinserted yourself into this little group? I don't like the term reinsert myself when it comes to men.

Why do you try to steal my joke? You fucked up my joke. I'm sorry. I'm going there, dude. That's what happens when you work with somebody for so long. Damn, dude, just trying to wreck my jokes. I know. But anyway, no, my buddy Ron, he's got a Beatles haircut.

He was alive to see Elvis perform, so he's great. That's pretty cool. Then there's some college students that are newbies to the group. But it's really good, man. But there's so much crazy going on that it's kind of my little oasis. I get it. And we're talking about lots of different things. There's so much crazy going on that it's kind of my little oasis, you know? And we're talking about lots of different things. You know, there's so much complaining.

Obviously, our culture is pretty screwed up on any number of things. But I don't know. There's some good stuff going on in the world. And I'm just curious. I think there's a lot of good stuff going on. There's a lot of good stuff. And I'm curious, kind of open up the conversation. What do you think is good about the world right now?

What do I think is good? What do you think is good? I think the best thing about the world right now is that they're sick of the way that it is. I think that's the best thing about the world. Like the tide is turning? Yes. I feel it, dude. You know, for the last eight years, ten years, we've had this culture where if you don't agree with me, fuck you.

You're the fucking devil. You're, you know, because dude, we introduced this concept of social media at a very, um, tide turning point in culture, right? So we have, uh, now we have people with a voice and we had a new sort of culture in America. And what happened was we have this perfect storm where people don't know how to be responsible with their voice. And then there's all this change. And then we have these, this crazy shit all over the internet from every motherfucker with a voice.

And let's be real. Not every motherfucker should have a voice. That's the truth. Like, you know, and I think people are just sick and people are just like, Oh, well, or do you not believe in – no, I believe in rights, but I think you should be of fucking average intelligence to express them. That's what I think. So I don't think that's – look, dude, people are ready for a change.

People are ready for the truth. They've recognized that the strategies over the course of the last 10, 12 years are not working the way that they thought it was going to work. And as hard as it is for people to admit, a lot of people were fucking wrong and they're starting to say it. You know, we see this with our president. We see people who were calling him every name in the book three years ago. Now they're saying, well, fuck man. Um, I'm doing much better now. now they're saying well fuck man um i'm doing much better now and they're actually making decisions based upon people's actions not based upon what they're told to think and i think that's i think that's good i think that's good you're right across the board it's

not just politics i think i think people are starting to to question and go okay have we been sold a bill of goods like whether whether it's been the politically correct. Really what's happened in Vaughn, dude, is that we've always been sold a bill of goods. And what's happening is now we have so much information at our disposal that we are actually waking the fuck up. That's what's happening. Oh, and speaking of waking the fuck up,

I actually have a guest here with us too. Oh yeah? I forgot to bring him in. Handsome guy? He's all right. Real handsome guy. Real handsome. Real handsome.

Yeah. But I do think, I mean, the one thing. Did you tie that intentionally into the title of this podcast? Real handsome. You know, what's funny is I did not know the title of the podcast. It was Real AF. And in my head, you know, I was like, oh, actually, it's the real Andy Fursella. It's whatever you want.

It's whatever you want, man. You know, like I was sitting there because I literally have no idea. So I'm a newbie in that sense. But, you know, it's interesting, and I'll start this off with that. By the way, this is my brother, Sal. Oh, yeah. Sal's all right. Sal's one of those guys that has to get a job from his brother, right?

Yeah, Sal's one of them guys that just wants to be his brother the internet he secretly wants to be his brother but he's you know too ashamed to say so who's that junior I do drive a minivan no that's not a minivan bro that's not a minivan so I want to preface this with I'm all I'm neither right nor left I'm very center as Andrew said earlier you know left from a uh left from a social standpoint and very right from a fiscal standpoint. But what you're tired of, and I think if people would really take the visual message out of it, if you took the ability of Obama to get up in front of people and really speak, because he was one of the best speakers of all time, especially in public. Absolutely. The guy was invincible, right?

Yeah. If he were able to, and you took Trump's, his ability to get in front all time, especially in public. I mean, the guy was invincible, right? Yeah. If he were able to, and you took Trump's, his ability to get in front of people, which is terrible. Yeah. But if you took what Trump's doing and you put it into Obama and you took all the political side apart,

everybody'd be fucking happy. You know what I mean? Like everybody would be fucking ecstatic, you know? Yeah. But they're so, they're so there. Let's just be honest, for ignorant fucking reasons,

they're like, I'm a Democrat or I'm a fucking Republican. No, dude. They're not able to fucking open their eyeballs. Bro, what it is is that people are too attached to wanting to be right. They want to win for stupid fucking reasons. No, they don't want to win. They don't want the country to win. They want themselves and their conversation and their beliefs to win, because if

they don't win, then that means they have to question their own beliefs and actually go out and say, you know what? Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was. Maybe I was wrong. But you're starting to see some of those people turn that corner. Yeah. Because listen. Let's be fucking clear here. This is not a political show. It just happens to be the way we went. Right. But like, I'm not going to not talk about it. It's a hot topic. Let's be fucking real dude okay we have a fucking president right now that literally half the people in the united states fucking hated they made shit up about him that wasn't true they did everything they did everything they fucking could to bury him and he said fuck you i don't care and what'd he do he's going out and taking action and now those same people

that were actually a lot of those same people that were like dude he's this he's that they're like oh he he's actually not this and what's that done what that has done now is made people to start to wake up because they're like well fuck if I was wrong about that what about all these other people out here in the media telling me this and this and this and this and this. Holy shit, maybe they're lying to me. And so we're having a little bit of an awakening happen here. We talked about this, but, you know, if you were to watch CNN, same story. You watch Fox News, same story. And you're on either side and you believe that's the fucking truth.

You're a moron, right? Dude, you're a fucking sheep. Like, you belong in a different pasture than this one. But, you know, and in that sense, I've been guilty of it. You know, like, I watch Fox News. I'm like, yeah! You know, and I watch CNN. I'm like, that's bullshit.

And then you realize, like, well, no, I'm just, wait, I'm part of the sheep. Yeah, but you know what's great about Trump, dude, is he exposes how sheepish you are. On both sides. No, on both sides. You know why? Because, dude, he says some stupid fucking shit. Boys. He's crazy.

That boy crazy. You cannot agree with some of the shit that he says or how he does it, but what he does in his job produces the result that we want. Right. And that's what people forget. It's not about how much you like someone. There is some shit that Trump says that I'm like, what a fucking dick. And there's some shit that he says

Dude, I'm embarrassed, yes. But there is some shit also that I'm like, that's fucking hilarious. And then there's some shit that I'm like, that's genius. Okay? And the shit that he says that embarrasses us, guess what I say? I walk into office and what do I say? I say,

did you see that fucking shit Trump did? What the fuck is he doing? Right? And then there's the stuff that is just plain entertaining I say, did you see that fucking shit Trump took? What the fuck is he doing? Right? And then there's the stuff that is just plain entertaining. Oh. Like, did you guys see the picture? Did you see his fucking Rocky post? Oh my gosh. Like, pardon me. I'm sorry.

I know people get really offended by this because they're like, oh, it's beneath the dignity of the president. It's freaking hilarious. Not only that, it's 2019. Like, it's social media land. And don't forget that he did win the election based off social media, his ability to utilize it, right? The strength and the promise of what was at his disposal in front of him.

He had one twentieth of the budget. He's a smart guy in that sense. Now, is he an asshole? Yeah, he's an asshole, but he's smart. It depends on, no, I don't think he's an asshole. I think he is just committed to his truth. I think he's an asshole. I think he is just committed to his truth. I think he believes in himself. I think he represents what you're supposed to be in America.

Not necessarily the product that he is, but you have to respect the fact that the man believes in who the fuck he is. He takes action that backs that shit up, and he's not just full of shit. I respect that. Dude, no matter what the fuck he says or does, I don't see how you couldn't respect the dude. Now, if you're saying, oh, well, he grabbed somebody's pussy 17 years ago.

Well, fuck, motherfucker. What the fuck did you do 17 years ago? Right? Well, he's supposed to be presidential. Well, you're supposed to not do that same shit. You're just not a public figure that's going to get blasted for it. What about Bill Clinton? Yeah, and I think people missed the point.

The point is, if he did that 17 years ago and today was saying, yeah, you're right, I did it and it was wonderful, it was a good thing. He's not saying that. He's not saying that. Everybody's saying, we did stupid stuff, it's wrong, let did stupid stuff. It's wrong. You saw the fucking Chappelle stand up where he literally stood in front of the fucking

crowd and made fun of them. He said, you know why I don't come out and do comedy for you motherfuckers? Because you motherfuckers are the worst motherfuckers that I have to try to entertain. And what he's telling them is, dude, fuck you. Because, dude, every single thing that you guys do is mob mentality nonsense. Censoring comedians.

Censoring comedians. It's not even that, dude. It's a mob mentality control tactic. You don't like what someone says, go get all your fucking friends and throw a goddamn fucking temper tantrum. That's what's going on right now. We have a bunch of people that are grown adults acting like fucking children because they're upset.

Okay? 100%. I'm sorry. Dave Chappelle's funny as fuck. He's the only motherfucker I know that can make jokes about shit that we would normally be like, holy fuck. And you're laughing your ass off. We need that.

I'm sorry. There was a couple things in that stand-up, though, that made me cringe. If you can make me cringe, you're dancing on that gray line. Honestly, you go way back. I just happened to listen to some of this on YouTube. Richard Pryor. Yeah, he's the best, dude. Richard Pryor.

I still have three of his DVDs. Oh, my God. Dude, Eddie Murphy, Raw, Delirious. Yeah. Right the best, dude. Richard Pryor. I still have three of his DVDs. Oh, my God. Eddie Murphy, Raw, Delirious. Yeah. Like, dude, George Carlin. Like, dude, these guys. It's awesome. You can't even be a fucking comedian anymore

because everything's fucking offensive because everybody's got a problem with literally fucking everything. You know what's sad about that, guys? In all seriousness, you know what's really sad about that? Who are the people that you joke about, joke with the most? Who are the people that you rip on the most? People you care the most about. People you care about.

The people that are family. And what's kind of sad is that we've gotten to the point where people are so offended by everything, they just can't take a joke, which to me shows that there's a breakdown in the way that Americans see each other. Wait, really, Vaughn? We don't see each other as family. Really? Because I remember busting your balls.

About. And you're not liking it. Right. Guess what happened three months later? Yeah. Yeah. What happened? Were you sensitive, Susie?

Did I break it? I was sensitive, Susie. Did I break it of you? But you know why, Sal? Because I realized that there was some truth to it. Sal busted my butt for, basically, I committed to, I forget what it was, like running a half K or half marathon. Bro, you fucking told me you were going to beat him up.

No, that's a separate thing. No. No, that's a separate thing. Yeah, it is a separate thing. That's a separate thing. You told me that you were going to get a trainer and you were going to kick his ass. This man is 240 fucking pounds. Dude.

And he was a professional athlete. All right. Like, you could go train for the rest of your fucking life and he is still going to hurt you. All right. Two things. Two separate issues.

Psychedelics. One, Sal asked me to commit to a half marathon. I pulled out of it. I'm Catholic, so I can't of it. That's what she said. I'm Catholic, so I can't do that. That's good policy. I wouldn't know it.

There were at least four times I didn't do that. But I basically got cold feet. All kidding aside, I was worried that I was going to die. I literally thought I was going to die if I did that, which I know is completely irrational, but the point is I pulled out of it, and Sal gave me a hard time about it, and I did not handle it well.

And then I rubbed his face in it. And he rubbed my face in it. He didn't like that either. Three months later, I did come in, and I said, I apologize. And since then, I'd say, we have a great relationship. He must have really made you mad because usually you're pissed. Usually it takes way less time for you to come around. It might be a day or an afternoon or the next day because I've pissed you off a number of times.

No, I was pissed. Yeah, you must have been really mad. Yeah, but what was fun, actually what was the most fun, was us yelling at each other in the conference room and looking at people going, what the heck? What is going on? Oh, this happened here? Yeah, the door was open. Like, we were yelling at each other, and people were looking at us like, what is going on? I literally walked out there like, is that for real?

They're used to you yelling at me, and me just going, oh, yeah, okay. Well, and I don't yell. Like, you know, the guys around the office, they know, like, if I get mad, like, I'm mad. Right, right. It takes a minute for me to get to that point. But the second thing these guys are making fun of me is that I decided, you know, you guys got to understand. If you've been listening to Andy for any length of time, you've been around Sal and Andy on social media, they're always saying, set huge, unattainable goals.

Right, guys? So what do I do? I took your advice. I set one. I was like, Sal, you, me, we're going to do I do? I took your advice. I set one. I was like, Sal, you, me, we're going to wrestle. We're going to wrestle in front of everybody. Bro, there's huge goals. No, dude.

I'm telling you, five minutes, he would not. I can't beat Sal. You going to do it today? No, I got to train. He would not pin me in five minutes. Five minutes? You're going to do it today. Bro, it would last five seconds.

Wait, wait, wait, three minutes. Three two-minute're going to do it today. It would last five seconds. Three minutes. Three two-minute rounds. For three two-minute rounds. I promise you. He might break my spinal cord in half, but he's not going to pin me. Well, whatever, man. So what were we talking about? No, so going back to just the whole issue of, no, man, it's-

Busting balls. That's where you turn the corner. Yeah, no, we did. You ever play that game Mortal Kombat? You know that game? They probably can't do that anymore. You ever play that game Mortal Kombat? You know that game? They probably can't do that anymore No You know that game?

Is that where the The guy goes finish him And then he like rips his fucking spine out and shit And there's blood everywhere That'd be you Yeah, probably would be No, I'm from And you wouldn't be the one ripping

I'm from the Karate Kid generation So I'd crane kick You'd crane kick him right in the fucking teeth I'd crane kick him right in his head Right off the top of him But no, but No, dude, I mean It just comes back to...

Dude, we just... Our country, everybody is so sensitive. Everybody is so offended. They're so worried that somebody's going to say something that's going to challenge their beliefs and their...

But dude, is it everybody though or is it a few people? Here's what I think. I think it's, unfortunately, I don't know. That's a tough question. Because, dude, I don't think it's everybody. I'd be curious what everybody else thinks.

Dude, if it was everybody, how the fuck would the motherfucker have won the election that won it? I don't think it's everybody. I think what it is is that we have a small minority of people who have a belief about the world. Those people have had zero fucking struggle in their life. Zero. They are rich, far left, crazy motherfuckers that live in huge fucking mansions and make a lot of fucking money. And they realize, well, we could fucking tell the poor people and the minority people and the people who are struggling in this country,

we could tell them shit. And when we tell them shit, because we're this way, they'll believe it. They'll believe that. And so, dude, that's how we'll stay in office. Well, dude, I mean. So that's what we have going on.

So now we have a situation where you have a group of very wealthy people manipulating a group of very fucking poor people and uneducated people and underprivileged people that deserve a fucking chance.

And then you have these other motherfuckers, you know, on the other side, who come from East buttfuck, who knows where, with no teeth, with pitchforks and fucking shotguns and shit, and overalls, no shirts, saying, oh, we're going to take this country back, son. We're going to fucking bring this back to the fucking way it used to be. We're going to go back and we're going to pitchfork these sons of bitches. That's what we have. So how about we fucking meet in the middle and recognize, oh, hey, we all got to live

here. We might as well laugh about the shit. You know what? You motherfuckers, you're funny. You white people, you're funny, dude. You're black people. You're fucking funny, too. And you know what? You Chinese motherfuckers, you're funny. You're white people. You're funny, dude. You're black people. You're fucking funny, too. And you know what?

You Chinese motherfuckers, you're funny, too. You American Indians, you do some funny shit. Like, dude, how much more fun would it be just to acknowledge the differences and have a fucking laugh? I agree, man. You know, instead of everybody fighting, well, you don't understand because you're white because you have all the fucking privilege. Motherfucker, I had no fucking privilege. You know what I'm saying? I had real hardship, dude.

Not fucking fake hardship. Real hardship. Okay? These people don't comprehend what the reality is because no one's in the real world. They're on their fucking phones. They're on Facebook.

They're on social. We're judging a world based upon a fucking app on our fucking phone. Because I can tell you this, when I go out and meet people in real life, they're cool as shit. Yeah. And everybody's saying the same thing. And it doesn't matter if they're black and white or fucking Chinese or Mexican or fucking. They're all saying the same shit.

You know what they're saying? They're saying, Andy, this shit is fucked up. And I'm like, bro, me too. You know? Dude. That's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm hearing in the real world. So I would challenge that and say, you know, I don't think it is the real world.

I think it's a fucking manipulative fucking little piece of pie that we look at as everybody. And we have to be careful because that's what makes people crazy. Yeah. Right? No, I agree. Dude, I got to tell you, this is a great story. At least I think it is.

So in 2000, I was part of a group. It was like 50 people that were selected. You had to be really super incredibly smart to be part of this group, so that's why they chose me. But anyway, yeah. To clean the bathroom?

Yeah, exactly. No, yeah, it was a group that was going over to the Middle East. So it was going to all these different countries, and it was going to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and then you finished up in Israel, and then you spent a little bit of time in Greece. And the whole point of the thing was it was supposed to give us this whirlwind one-month crash course on the socio-political religious history of the Middle East, obviously a super volatile place. And it was the first time a lot of us had been exposed to, like,

Islamic and Muslim culture and Arab, you know, that kind of thing. And so it was kind of freaky, you know, where they're thinking, oh, man, you know, you think it's almost like Star Trek. Like, oh, we're the Federation and they're the Klingons and they're so totally different. Man, nobody knows all Star Trek shit. Ah, they do. Sorry, I just dated myself and kind of established myself

as the geek on the show. But listen, just really, really different, right? So like, thinking, oh man, how are we going to really identify with these peoples? Well,

we were in Lebanon and we had heard all these lectures and a lot of them were good but some of them were from like, more leftist kind of people talking about like,

how all cultures can get along. And they had these really super highbrow intellectual answers for this. Well, we were in Lebanon. We were at this restaurant and they had this belly dancing girl came out. And she started doing the belly dancing. Did you write her a book? No. That's an inside joke we're all going to talk about much later.

But she started doing this belly dancing. And like she was insanely good looking and insanely good at what she was doing. And I'm sitting here and there's all these, there's these other like Islamic students and this guy who was sitting next to me or standing next to me. And we're all like all the men in the room of all the different nationalities and religions are just gawking at this girl. Right. So this guy looks over to, and he says something. Wait, wait, wait. You mean that all of these dudes, no matter where they come from, they're still looking at the hot chick?

Right. That's what you learned on this 30-day kumbaya trip? That's really funny, though. I could have told you that and saved you $30, 30 days. Right. So I'm watching, and this guy looks over to me, and he says something in Arabic, and he's got this really deep voice, and he goes, blah, blah, blah, whatever, Arabic. And I'm like, I'm watching and this guy looks over to me And he says something in Arabic and he's got this really deep voice And he goes

Whatever Arabic And I'm like So I said I'm sorry I don't speak Arabic What did you just say He looks at me and goes I said we are not really that different after all Dude that's so fucking true.

It's true, dude. I got a buddy I talk to literally all the time from Kuwait. He's like if you he calls me his American twin. OK, we do. You could not be more fucking on opposite sides of the earth. We're the same dude. Yeah, we're the same fucking dude. I was just going to say, I mean, I've been in a million bars in the middle middle little

small towns, you know, big city, New York, everywhere in between. And I love people. Yeah. And what I realized about, you know, this is what I hate about media. And this is specifically what I hate about social media in the sense is you're on big box media. You're only getting shown what they choose to show you. Like that's it. But when you really get out into the woods, whether you're literally in the woods or you're in a big city like do we all have the same struggles you know like do we all struggle with money in some way shape or form you struggle with relationships in some way shape or form right and you know when you start bonding and coming together like we are really all the same you know what i mean you get fed a bunch of bullshit and how you feel bullshit what separates

you nobody knows what the fuck they're doing yeah Yeah. No, there's truth about that. Hold on, hold on. Let's say that again. You can end the whole goddamn thing. Hey, that's the whole fucking show. Episode one to episode one fucking thousand. Oh, nobody knows. Right.

But what you realize is that like, and this is the thing, is like when you surround yourself with good people, you have good, healthy conversations, you start progressing yourself forward, right? But culturally, we're all the same from the standpoint of, like, we all struggle. We all have the same fucking struggles for the most part. And there's some outside struggles that different people deal with.

But at the end of the day, man, people are good. They're not bad. Fucking the media wants to show you all the bad. And then in our head, you're just – So they can sell some fucking ad space. That's it. And so they constantly pump you with fucking the negative, the negative, the negative, the negative.

Well, you know, think about the old school media, you know, and the one thing, I don't know that it's much different or maybe I'm getting much older and have a different, broader view,

but they used to highlight a lot of the positives. You know, the good things are going on. Now it's, the transition has been, let's focus on all the negatives and it creates this negative

aspect fucking mentality. Dude, what gets more likes? No, of course. What gets more fucking likes on the internet? A story about someone whining about how fucking hard they had it or a story about what good someone did? I'm going to tell you right now, the fucking story where you talk about, uh, dude, my fucking childhood was so bad.

Dude, we've become a fucking society that competes about who had it harder. It doesn't matter. Hard is hard. It is not something that we compete about. had it harder. It doesn't matter. Hard is hard. It is not something that we compete about. What's a level 10 hard for you, it's still a level 10 hard for me. And they're completely different things. That's true. But we've created this situation now where it's like, oh, listen, I had it much harder than you, brother.

Let me tell you how hard did you have it. You tell me, and then I'll top it. Right. We're a bunch of Tommy Topper motherfuck you, brother. Let me tell you how hard did you have it. You tell me and then I'll top it. We're a bunch of Tommy Topper motherfuckers, man. There's a critical difference too. I think there are people in the world who share their stories of adversity, but they don't share them for sympathy. They share

them to empower people. I think historically, it's not the first time in American history where people have shared their adversity and told people about how hard their life is. That shit needs to be shared. Yes, but this is probably the first time in American history. But it's not your fucking identity. Right, and this is probably the first time in American history

that people have shared it for the purpose of getting sympathy, not for the purpose of motivating others. It goes back to the squeaky wheel gets the oil, right? Right. And whenever you empower everybody that has a voice on social media, they realize that the squeakier they get, the more oil they receive. So the louder they are. Look, dude, we can fix a lot of shit.

Let me tell you how. You got to pass a test to have a social media account. You got to have basic intelligence. Like, okay, you pass a little test, there's your fucking Instagram. Then they couldn't run ads and sell you things yeah dude look dude and then we do then we do uh on holidays social media is closed right like from from the day before thanksgiving till fucking sunday we you know you close it down uh for christmas and christmas eve you close it dude the world would be better place it would be interesting if the internet had business dude

it would be awesome it would be awesome because it would it would create a better place. It would be interesting if the internet had business hours. Dude, it would be awesome. It would be awesome because it would create a balance between the tech and the human element that we all crave but can't get anymore. Right. You know? Right. No, dude, I get it. I mean, one of the biggest conflicts and frustrations

in my own life, and I know you get this far more than I do, is that on some level, all of us in this room have to have a social media account. We do. We have to have one in order to run our business, in order to engage with the people that are sort of stakeholders in how we earn a living. Let me be real. You don't have to do anything.

Well, I know that, but part of me wants to walk away from it, but I'm like, I'm not sure how I could function in a business sense if I walked away completely from social media. I don't know. I mean, so I would argue that. Seth Godin does it. Not only Seth. Seth Godin's a smart. Seth Godin got to the point that he could do it, and he's a whole lot smarter than I

am. Seth Godin is the smartest business guru or whatever the fuck you want to call it on the earth. In 1997? I would say him and Elon Musk. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I get it. By the way,

did you see that fucking awesome PR movie he just pulled? All you motherfuckers out there watching, oh my God, the fucking window of the Tesla truck broke. Yeah, on purpose, dumbass,

so you talk about it. Oh my God, the Tesla truck is so ugly. Yeah, on purpose, dumbass, so you would fucking talk. Oh my God, I could buy a Tesla for a $100 deposit. Yeah, dumbass, dumbass. So you would fucking talk, oh my God, I could buy a Tesla for a $100 deposit. Yeah, dumbass.

So they can make $20 million today on you. Right. Like, dude. And what people don't realize is that that truck was for the loyal Tesla people who were going to buy it. The people who were never going to buy that, all that thing was staged was to create conflict between the people who were going to defend Tesla and become more committed to the brand. Bro, it was a cultural PR genius fucking move. Yeah, it was genius.

That guy is on a different level of genius, period. No, I agree. And so is Seth Godin. I agree. But going back to what we were saying, so we were talking about, I don't know, man. What were we talking about? Well, we got talking about, I don't know, man. What were we talking about? Well, we got talking about just, you know, what's good about the world. You said that the tide is turning.

I'll fucking say something. Yeah. I don't think people are even actually offended by the shit they say they are. I think most of the time they say they're offended, they're saying they're offended because it's what they're supposed to say. Right, because there are people who are in positions of influence with platforms that have convinced them. That have told them that they should be offended by this. Now listen, no matter how much we protest on this,

people are going to say, oh, you guys, you're just a bunch of Trump-loving Republican conservatives. Absolutely not. But let me... I think Trump is literally half dumbass. I think he's fucking... I think the other half of him is fucking genius.

That boy crazy. Dude, that's what I think. He is. I think he's half dumbass, the other half of him is fucking genius. That boy crazy. Dude, that's what I think. He is. I think he's half dumbass, half fucking super genius. Yeah, yeah. And dude, by the way, I do like him.

And I ain't ashamed to fucking say that. You know why I like him? Because the man is who the fuck he is. And no matter what somebody does to try to fuck with him, he fucking stands strong. And dude, I don't care who you are on the face of the earth you may not agree with his policy you may not agree with his his banter

and the way that might be your style you don't have to agree with everybody's style but you should respect people at least in my opinion that are who the fuck they say they are and they live that through their actions and from what i I can tell, that man does that. I agree. This is what I tell people all the time. Anybody who thinks that Trump is some sort of... There are ways, obviously, that he's different. By the way, dude, I liked Obama.

I fucking liked Obama. I liked him. I did not agree with anything that he fucking did in office. I liked him. I thought he was cool. that he fucking did in office. I liked him. I thought he was cool. I'd fucking loved to smoke a fucking joint with President Obama. That's the truth. Okay?

But I didn't like his policy. So we have this situation now where we got to like everybody to say they're doing a good job? No, exactly. We don't evaluate policy decisions. We evaluate whether we like the person. You know what? I like people that do a good job, though, exactly. We don't evaluate policy decisions. We evaluate whether we like the person. You know what? I like people that do a good job, though. If you do a good job, I sort of like you more. Or if you have a little personality. I mean, this is what I just think. I think the criticisms that are often lobbed toward the direction of Mr. Trump are people

who just are completely ignorant of American history. Because if you look back at it, I was reading this to a buddy of mine the other day. I was reading about a particular president. This is what they said about the president. They said that his White House was run by cronies. His language was filthy and utterly beneath the dignity of the White House. He bullied people, and he misused platforms for his own personal gain. Oh, is that Trump? No.

Those are all things that were said about Harry S. Truman, who the Democrats consider one of their lions. And so it's like, Trump is not the first president in history who's been a little foul-mouthed. No, he's just the first one since we've had new technology to speak out against it. Right. And speaking of new technology. That was to my point earlier. Exactly.

And the people who are all over him for using Twitter, I don't know if anybody has any idea, the very first president ever to use what's called fireside chats, he would hop on the radio and go very regularly to talk to the American people. This president was accused of, you're spending all your time on the media when you should be governing. That was FDR, one of the greatest presidents in most people, most historians' estimations. Dude, he's just playing the game.

That's the game. Every president that has used the modern media well has ended up doing good things. Yeah, but see, it shows you too, though, you don't have to have the general media anymore love you to fucking do shit in this world. No, that is true. You don't have to do that. That is true. Dude, that's why the media is so pissed off about him because they haven't been able to fucking bury him and they're like fuck dude oh and i can't

those motherfuckers wrangle them you know what they're doing they're calling each other and they're saying fuck this motherfucker is good no no no that's not what they're saying they're not they're saying not only they're saying he's good, they're saying, fuck. We're kind of fucked, dude. Now people see that our shit doesn't really matter that much. You know what I'm saying? That's scary, dude. I will have to say, the other thing about Mr. Trump that is very different from Mr. Bush, Mr. Reagan, the other Bush, is that Trump is probably the first Republican president to say, listen, the reality is that the liberals and the Democrats,

they're never going to love me. So I'm not even going to. Dude, Trump doesn't even like the fucking far right dudes. Right. But what my point is, is Trump basically says this is war. This is war. It is. I mean, a lot of the other earlier Republicans wanted to play nice with the Democrats and

it never got them anywhere. It really didn't. Listen, you cannot negotiate with people who who all they they they are unwilling to look at the facts like i think it's fucking embarrassing personally that we have a whole and this is goes for both parties and then i want to move on to something else because i'm fucking tired talking about this but i think it's embarrassing as a country that we have literally all these elected officials up there in fucking washington who literally act like fucking children like like have you ever watched one of these motherfucking inquisitions that they do on oh yeah on fucking

c-span are you serious like are you are you? Excuse me, Mr. Thomas. Where were you on the evening of December 27th at 7 p.m.? Because my documentation says that you tweeted, big booty hoes. Do you really believe in that tweet? You know what I'm saying? Like, get the fuck out of here, man. Like, maybe he was fucked up and he saw a fucking movie

and he reminded him of a song. He says, big booty hoes, I'm with it of here, man. Like maybe he was fucked up and he saw a fucking movie and he reminded him of a song. He says, big booty hoes, I'm with it. Like, dude. No, the sad reality to that is he was probably at a strip club with some lobbyist who just put a million bucks in his pocket and he made a fucking accidental mistake because he had too many beers and he wrote a stupid ass tweet and he's out fucking lawmaking for our country.

For his own personal well-being. But that's what I'm saying. Hey man, if I give you a million dollars, will you get this grease through for me? That's what I'm saying, bro. It's people, but people are not, I truly believe this. I truly, truly believe this.

People are not as offended as they pretend to be. No, I think you're right. I think it's what they think they're supposed to be. They're conditioned. They're tying their identity to something that they want to be, and then they're pretending to be that in're conditioned. They're tying their identity to something that they want to be. And then they're pretending to be that in front of other people for other people's agreement or disagreement. Right?

That's their worth. And I think a good thermometer for that is to go watch the Dave Chappelle show and see how offended you are. I wasn't offended at all. Me neither. Yeah. Maybe I don't have a heartbeat. The best joke he told in the whole fucking thing was the one he told about the trans guy yeah sitting in the front row yeah did you did

you pick on that did you like in the behind the scenes at the end yes where he was very into the yeah dude he goes he goes he goes dude i was scared to tell these trans jokes because this this this woman who was a man who was trans was sitting in my front row, and she was just laughing and laughing and laughing. And I felt bad because I was about to tell these trans jokes, and I knew they were coming. And I decided, well, should I say it in front of him or should I not say it in front of him? And he said, well, I decided that if I can't say it in front of him, should I even be saying it at all? So I did it. So he went in, and he told the joke, and he said,

and this trans woman was just laughing and laughing. I couldn't understand why she was the hardest one laughing. And then he goes, and then it dawned on me. She used to be a man. Dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, like the shit is so offensive, quote unquote, but it's not really offensive. It's a fucking joke.

I would say you're in a good place in life when you can be the butt of the jokes and you can laugh. Dude, I agree. Make fun of me, dude. Everybody makes fun of me. Dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, fuck it. I know what I am.

I know I'm a fucking goofball. Like, fuck, I don't care. No, dude, I love this, and I love telling this story. I had a really good friend in seminary. His name was John Hyde, and he was, as he was growing up, he was an excellent athlete. Like, he was going to play Division I. He was recruited heavily by Kentucky, and he had this terrible accident.

This guy, a junk driver, hit him. He's basically, I don't know what the technical term is for it, like a quadriplegic or whatever, but he doesn't have really any ability to move. And he's got the little electronic wheelchair, and he can talk, but it's very hard for him to enunciate. One time he was called because he's a real inspiring guy. And if something like this happens to you, dude,

I mean, you know Andy getting stabbed, know, if something like this happens to you, dude, I mean, you know, Andy, getting stabbed. But if something really physically traumatic happens to you, you could just roll up in a ball. You could just be mad at the world. Is that what you did that time you got arrested? Yeah, exactly. Roll up in a ball to avoid the trauma? We'll talk about that later. But you could just be mad at the world. And somebody asked John Hyde one time.

He said, John, what would you tell, after your whole ordeal, what would you tell everybody? What's the message of your life? And John goes, drive safely. And here's the thing, we all bursted into laughter, but the ability to laugh at your situation

when you have been reduced to a quadriplegic and can barely talk when you could have played ball maybe even gone to the nba and to laugh at that the strength of character and i think that's the problem guys is i think people people are so offended no they've lost the ability to laugh they've lost the ability to laugh at themselves because they don't really know who they are they don't have a real sense of their own character or their own values and i don't know man i mean i i'm i'm hoping let me tell you guys something like yeah listen if you can't laugh at yourself if you can't

like dude there's good listen this is like for real i'm gonna be real for one second here bad shit is going to fucking happen right it is inevitable i mean dude bad shit happens it happens to everybody but if you can't figure out how to laugh at yourself and make light and make jokes of even the darkest fucking dirtiest shit, you're going to go insane because the shit that happens that's bad is sometimes really fucking bad.

So you're going to have to find a sense of humor, man. You know, it cures a lot. There's a real confidence for people who are able to laugh at themselves. Yeah, dude. They're not insecure. Well, the only reason we get mad when people fucking say stuff

that we don't think is funny is because it's a little bit true. Yeah. That's why we get upset. We're like, fuck. So, should we be upset at them or should we be upset at ourselves

and maybe fix that little thing that we don't like? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like... Or accept the fact that maybe it's true and you know what and sometimes it's okay because dude it's not we're not supposed to be perfect fucking people like dude the you know vaughn your pastor for a number of years you're still fucking my pastor brother but like dude the thing is is like jesus you know go, this isn't a religious podcast either, but we're fucking talking about that too.

Look, dude, you're not supposed to be Jesus. You're supposed to try to be Jesus. Like, dude, let's fucking get that. And we got all these fucking motherfuckers out there. Like, dude, that guy sent you my DMs a couple weeks back. Where like the dude fucking hit me up. He's like, oh, wow, you say you try to do all this good but what's your real motive well i don't know man i gave away a number one fucking podcast for fucking free i could have

made 100 fucking 200 million dollars selling um i think my motives are okay yeah like fuck you yeah you know but like everybody's they're like we're as a people and I'm guilty of this. Very, very guilty. And all of you guys sitting here know that, um, dude, I hold my, we hold ourselves to this impossible standard. It's impossible to be perfect, impossible, but we hold ourselves against that. And then we're not, we tell ourselves, fuck dude, you're a piece of shit. And the reason we tell ourselves you're a piece of shit is because all the other motherfuckers out there on fucking media and in

social media and in the world are pretending to be perfect and they're pointing you and saying you're a fucking piece of shit and you're like fuck i guess i am you see what i'm saying absolutely bro dude we all do fucked up shit we all do fucked up shit. We all think fucked up shit. Dude, every time I meet a motherfucker, I cannot fucking help but think what I would do if I had to kill them. I think it every time I meet someone. Do I go kill motherfuckers? No. And if I did, I wouldn't tell you.

But here's the thing. I think it. Does that make me a bad person? Do you think that every time you meet Tyler? Yes. No, dude. But it goes back to... But I got that one figured out already.

It goes back to... Listen, I totally resonate with what you're saying. The reality is if everybody is honest, there are times that if someone was to screenshot something that we texted to somebody we trusted, whether it was our spouse or whether it was a good buddy or just somebody, there are times that we text things or we say things or we do things that if you took that in isolation, we would all be guilty of being racist.

We would all be guilty of being sexist. We would all be guilty of being just jerks. And the reality is that's part of being a human being. We all do things that are not consistent. Here's what's funny, dude. You take the same shit and you put it on a fucking stage and you call it comedy,

everybody laughs. Yeah. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So why can't we just laugh? Or you take the same shit and you give it to the president

and you call for impeachment. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Talk about a double standard. Yeah, that's right. But see, that's just a testament to how fucking... Fucked up it is.

No, it's not fucked up. It's that people have the inability to understand that everybody's like them. Right? Like President Trump, that motherfucker, I'm sure there's days you guys all think, oh, dude, he gets up and he thinks he's the shit. Dude, I promise you. Absolutely. I promise you.

You cannot be as successful as he is without highly criticizing yourself. You can't do it. I don't even think it's days. I bet you it goes weeks and months. Dude, I bet he's in the Oval Office in the fetal position sometimes because he's just overwhelmed. But not when anyone's watching. Not when anyone's watching. But I think he is.

But going back to your point, Andy, this is actually one of the main reasons. I'm not okay with the you are enough statement because here's the thing. Oh, come on. You're not enough. But that's okay. That's right. None of us is enough. Yeah.

And to go around and tell people, you are enough. No. People know deep in their hearts that they have demons, they have little shadows, they have little hiccups in their character. They know that. So if you continue to tell people, you are enough, you are enough, baloney. How about a better statement is, nah, we're not enough, but that's okay. That's okay.

How about this? How about instead of telling people to be content with you are enough, how about you say what you said and say, but the fucking goal here is to get better. Right. Like, that's the whole point that we're missing. Dude, I used to drive myself into the fucking deepest, darkest shit ever on my own because I was judging myself on what the fuck I thought about, not what I actually did. Okay? Because if you saw what I thought about, all of you motherfuckers right now, if you saw what I thought about, actually thought about, you'd be like, holy fuck, this guy is fucked in the head.

And you all think those same kind of things. You might not think about killing people and shit, but you think about weird shit. And then you might look at some weird porn or you might do some other weird shit. And you're judging yourself based upon what the fuck you think, not what you do. And the reality is if you want to feel good, start judging yourself on what you do, not what you think. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely, man. So when you start to judge yourself on what you do and

not what you think that's what happens you become more productive why because your value is tied to what you're doing not what you're thinking about yeah was that a small-sided confessional though on the you look at weird porn I mean sometimes no but you know what I mean dude I ain't the only motherfucker looking at it they're the most fucking popular websites on the fucking earth. Like, let's be real. Sin City. Yeah. You know, one of my, I love what you're talking about.

One of the very, very, very first sermons that I ever preached. I was so excited. I was like, oh, this is the first time I ever going to preach to an actual live audience. And it was in Hutchinson, Kansas at Crestview Bible Church. And I preached what I thought was going to be a great sermon, but when I was done, like I walked down, and I was just like, man, I felt like I was just throwing excrement from the pulpit. It was that bad. Like I couldn't preach my way out of a wet paper bag. Scooby-Doo?

Scoobula, yes. Scoobula? Scoobula. It was Scoobula. And I just was really, really discouraged. Like I was really depressed. And the next morning was a Monday morning, and I went in, and there was a guy who was really, really discouraged. Like, I was really depressed. And the next morning, it was a Monday morning, and I went in. There was a guy who was the custodian. He had been very successful, but he kind of retired and just said, hey, I want to clean the church, use some of my time to serve the church. His name was Bud Enns, and he was really typically Kansas name.

But Bud Enns, and he was, for many years, he was an auctioneer. I don't know if you guys have ever known any of those guys. I've seen them on TV. Kansas name, but Bud Enns. And he was, for many years, he was an auctioneer. I don't know if you guys have ever known any of those guys. I've seen them on TV. You know, like they do the... Yeah, like the micro machine. But he was just a really salt-of-the-earth kind of guy. And I walk in and he goes, Hey, brother, that was a great sermon last night.

That was so great. I really enjoyed it. It really blessed my heart. And I'm like, are you serious? I said, I felt like I completely failed. I felt enjoyed it. It really blessed my heart. And I'm like, are you serious? I said, I felt like I completely failed. I felt like it sucked. I felt like there's no way it could possibly be good. And I'm saying... Well, Vaughn, he was probably just telling

you to make you feel better. Well, what he said was, he goes, you know what? It's good you think it sucked. It's good you think that you don't know anything. He said, because man, the minute you walk up there and you think you know everything, you're nothing but a smartass behind the pulpit. That's right. That's the truth. That's the truth. And I remember at the time going, he just cussed in church. But no, but it really hit me. It really hit me. Like,

there's a difference between confidence that what you're preaching is the truth and just being smug and being like the idea that you could never possibly be wrong or you could never possibly improve or you could never possibly tweak anything that you believe. And I think we just need more of that, and people need to get over themselves, and they need to realize, like, even with me, like... Dude, and allow motherfuckers to have some personality, dude. Right.

You know? Yeah. I mean, come on, man. No, I agree, man. But... Otherwise, we'll all end up the same. Yeah. There's nothing fun about that.

No, that's absolutely... We all think the same thing. Can't do this, can't do that, so we all got to do the same thing, which is... nothing fun about that. No, that's right. We all think the same thing. Can't do this, can't do that. So we all got to do the same thing, which is we're all robots. Dude, this is another thought. Why the fuck does everybody want everybody to be just like them?

Like, their life ain't that cool. Like, dude, I look at my own life and I'm like, I wouldn't want everybody to have this life. Like, I love my life. You know what I'm saying? I love things about it, but there's also some hard shit about it too.

So why are we in such a frenzy to make everyone like us? That's a good question. And you know what? That's the overwhelming thought that I had when you and I had that conversation with our pal JP Donnell, who's a Navy SEAL. And after our long conversation with him and him talking about being in Fallujah and everything,

I remember driving home and I remember literally saying, thank God that there are people out there who enjoy killing people. No shit. Because if there weren't, not enjoy. I shouldn't say enjoy. No, no. But thank God that there are people who actually are willing to go overseas and go under the line of fire and be on a battlefield and have to shoot people and just mow them down. Thank God that there are people out there.

Don't forget to be willing to get shot at. Be willing to get, yes, be willing to get shot at because, guys, to my shame, I'm a lover, not a fighter, okay? And if everybody was like me, we would have lost our freedom a long time ago. And it's just like anybody who thinks that everybody should be a carbon copy of each other just doesn't realize that everybody serves a purpose in the world. And if everybody's the same, there's a lot of purposes that are not going to get fulfilled. And so, you know what? There's that new popular movie about Mr. Rogers. What I love about that is that you have Mr. Rogers and you have Andy Frisella.

They both serve a purpose in the world. You trying to be Mr. Rogers would be really awkward. Mr. Rogers trying to be you would be really awkward. But I think it's, you're right. I think people who want everybody to be a cookie cutter version of each other are so short-sighted. They don't realize that if that really happened, we'd all be screwed. Well, dude, and it's also, man, you know, nobody's trying to fuck you up, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? people are just so they're so afraid because of the messages have been sold so hard to them

that everybody's there to take their fucking lunch money everybody's there to oppress them everybody's there to take their rights everybody no motherfucker we're not trying to take your rights but what we are trying to do is get you to shut the fuck up for a minute and actually just go live your life right like how about that how about we just go live go life. Right. Like, how about that? How about we just go live? Go do your thing. You want to be gay? Go be gay. You want to get married? Be gay, man.

Hey, you know what? Tyler just looked at me. I think I just sparked something with you, bro. So, but I'm just saying, like, dude, yeah, like, I don't care. Like, we. I don't care if you're happy in that sense. Like, now you're being you. And you know what? At the same time, when a motherfucker comes from East Buttfuck with no teeth trying to

pitchfork you, I'm going to step in and say, go back to where the fuck you came from. Yeah. You know, we're here for each other. Right. You know, it's the same thing with all these different things. And I don't know. Can I wrap at least a portion of this conversation in a little bow and just say, I think what I feel is a concern is that in America,

we want to try to deal with everything by forcing people to do it, by having laws or by outlawing certain things to make certain things offensive. And I think we are starting to realize that you can't force people. You can't try to shut people down by doing that. What I think the best way to do it is, is that if we all have convictions that we feel very strongly about, the best possible way to influence another person is to become their friend. And to care about them.

Wait, wait, wait. Wait. There was a dude who did this. Hold on. It was like, I don't know. Pauly Shore? Maybe 2,000 years ago. Oh, it wasn't Pauly Shore?

No, no. It was like 2,000 years ago. Oh, 2,000 years ago? He had like a beard. Yeah. The motherfucker had like some long hair. Like he went in a cave. I can't remember the guy's name.

Yeah. But like he came out of the cave. He was a carpenter. He built things. There was a dude who actually lived's name. Yeah. But he came out of the cave. He was a carpenter. He built things. There was a dude who actually lived by that. Yeah. Bob Marley. No.

Must be Marley. Shit. I can't remember his name. He's 2,000 years old? Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. Hey, black don't crack, baby. Yeah.

I'll tell you, for me personally, I guess a takeaway in a sense, what I realized is I'm going to live my life. I'm going to be me. That's how I run my social. That's how I run my life. Because we all chase happiness. And I think all too often we get wrapped up in the understanding of we try to please everybody else. We try to please them with our social. You try to please them with your actions. You try to please. And ultimately, you never get fulfilled. You're chasing, trying to fill everybody else's buckets. And so I realized and where I turned turned I guess my happiness channel in life is like dude I'm just gonna do me and if you don't fucking like me then I'm not even saying fuck you I'm saying I get it it's okay it's not

for you I'm not dude that's the most powerful place someone can be yeah where you're like like because I'll be real like when I look when I like observe me from the outside I'm like I get why people hate me like I get like I get why people hate me like I get it I get why there's people that's okay I know I don't care I get it like I get it but I enjoy what the fuck I do and that's okay right and that's the thing that's you know instead of being offended by the fact that nobody likes or somebody doesn't like me like I've learned like and people say this like you know they'll be like oh don't give a fuck no but like I've learned to like really genuinely not give a fuck like if you don't like me i'm okay with that like it's okay you know and

so what i've realized you know if somebody wants to go be gay go be gay i'm doing fact that's you i support you you know what i mean you want to go that's you that's but this is what i'm going to do this is how i'm going to live my life yeah i am not going to join your thing yeah don't put your shit on me yeah i'm smart and we're not necessarily gonna agree and you know what and i'll sit down and listen to you you know what I'm saying but from a life learning standpoint is like stop trying to serve everybody else's needs serve your own but understand your own can't serve

theirs either you stay in your fucking lane and do you whatever you fucking like you know what I mean you want to get freaky with your wife behind closed doors you guys are in some weird shit they're not wrong with it no that's my point you're not just supposed to lay on top of each other. You're supposed to fucking swing around and see what you can attach to the ceiling.

That type of shit, right? And if somebody judges you for it, if you like it, who gives a fuck? Dude, to me, that's like one of the funniest things is the whole sexual thing. If you want to fucking, like you want proof how full of shit people are, let's be fucking real. Porn websites are the biggest fucking website on the internet. But nobody goes there. But nobody goes there but nobody goes there they're all bots right right yeah get the fuck out of here they happen to be oh my god i can't believe you talked about that some of the top traffic now is resides in fenton missouri is that

right not me oh sorry i wasn't picking up on that. I caught that, Vaughn. Maybe it's Manhattan, Kansas. It could be. Now, if I had a little more time. So, I don't want to put words in your mouth, Andy, but I'm just kind of curious. But you're going to? I'm going to. Yeah, all right. Because, you know, I'd rather put words in your mouth than something else. I can't believe I just said that.

See, now I'm going to like- We're corrupting you. You need to go repent. Yeah. You better go say a prayer. Yeah. Well, in all honesty, though- You better go ask Bob. I do. You know, you guys know, I do worry that I'm up here, I'm trying to be a good Christian boy, I'm going to say something stupid, and then I'm going to get

a bunch of DMs and people say- Bro, people are so, they don't even understand, this is how fucking stupid people are and how uncultured and uneducated they are. People don't even understand that the MFCEO project is a fucking parallel to the Bible. It just has some fucking curse words in it. Like they don't even get it. Like we just did 300 episodes on

literally the values that are taught from 2,000 years ago presented in a way that younger people can actually listen to. And they don't even get it. Like why the fuck do I have a pastor on the fucking show? It's because we're Jedi masters. Yeah.

No shit, dude. No, but what I was going to say, though, in all seriousness. What I'm telling you is you're doing good work. Oh, thank you, man. Yeah. And I will say this. I'm sorry for saying so much shit that your more traditional people get mad about.

No, no, listen. I'm totally cool. Listen, no, listen. I'm totally cool. Listen, the only thing that I'm really truly ashamed of myself in the last year because I feel like, you know what, I'm not telling anybody that I'm Jesus. I'm trying to be like Jesus, and it is. It's hard. In fact, I would argue it's impossible unless the Spirit of God is working in me. It's supposed to be impossible.

But what I'm truly ashamed of in the last probably six months is that— You didn't run that half marathon. Well, that. And you guys all helped me get really in shape. And I got to a point, and I'm a little off my game, but I'm going to get back on it because it's a journey, right? We know that. But I was to the point where I looked really good. I took a picture of myself with a shirt off, posted it on social media, and I got some

credits. Oh, I got about 95% of people were like, yes, awesome. Go, Vaughn. Good job. Got 5% that, well, I got a couple people that said, you know what? You really want to, I mean, do you want to be a spiritual leader or do you want to like incite people to lust? Well, first of all, I don't know how many-

That's kind of a compliment. Yeah, it was. That's a compliment. I don't think I'm going to be inciting too many people to lust unless they're like post-60. Well, obviously you do. Dude, I totally caved, though. I pulled it off. They wouldn't be saying that if it wasn't true.

Well, I appreciate that. But I pulled it down. Sexy moment. I pulled it down. But why? See, this is where I struggle. I'll tell you why. Because they knew exactly where to get me.

They knew that I wanted to be a powerful influence for spiritual, and they questioned that. And in that moment of weakness— But do you question it for yourself? Well, I question—I know my—let's put it this way. I'm very aware of my own temptations, my own struggles, my own challenges, my own demons. I'm aware of that.

So I'm probably really— You know, you guys always joke a little bit about, you know, Vaughn's awkward AF, you know, sometimes. It's because, frankly, half the time that I'm with you guys, I'm thinking, okay, I want to make sure I don't do anything that makes Jesus look bad. You know? What does that say about us, bro? No, it says nothing. That's my issue, dude.

That's my issue. It's not yours. Yeah, but I got to answer the same guy you answered, too. You think we're... So my point being is like... No, no, no, no, no. Don't turn this as an insult to you guys. Vaughn's going home and saying, these guys are bad sinners.

I'm trying to fix them. I'm doing everything I can. I'm not saying that. No, I'm not at all. But you're contradicting yourself here. You're contradicting yourself. What I'm saying is that you're not out there telling people you're a pastor. Well, I'm a former pastor.

I'm not a pastor. But you're not out there leading with the spiritual stuff. That doesn't mean that I'm not sharing the message of God. No, I agree with that. But the point is that there's a part of me that's- The point isn't to fucking talk about it. The point is to live it. That's right.

Well, I agree. And you know what you're living? You're living in inspiration. And for those people to throw stones, and those are the people who throw stones- They're ignorant. Not only are they ignorant, they're the same motherfucker who's driving traffic to the porn site. Do you know what I'm saying?

So I've learned you can't listen to the noise. If your true intention is like, this is my intention. My intention is to show that I have progressed. It's to show that it's possible for you. And if you're struggling, I can help you get through that journey. That's your intention. I know you well enough. That's your intention.

Is there a little bit of ego into it that I look good, I want to put on? Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. There's all a self-serving fucking ego. No, I agree. Otherwise, social media wouldn't exist. But you can't listen to the five percent to drive 95 percent of your fucking life. No, you're absolutely right. And that's why that's why I'm right.

You'll end up in their mom's basement, their computer right. You know, you're exactly right. That's my point earlier is like I'm gonna do me like right. And I've learned like over time, I'm going to continue to do me. It takes a long time to get to that point where you can legitimately look at yourself

and not get mad when people talk shit. But I do have to say this. When you say do me, when you say I'm going to do me, I think it's really important because I think a lot of people listen to this kind of stuff

and they take that and they run with it. Sal Frisella is not saying I'm going to do me and that means F you to everybody and I'm never going to take any criticism. No, what you mean is I'm going to do me, and that means F you to everybody, and I'm never going to take any criticism. No, what you mean is I'm confident in who I am,

and I know I'm going to get better. But you know, Andy, some people say, I'm going to do me. And what they mean is... That's how you're going to go be an asshole. Look, dude. It's code for... Saying you give zero fucks on the internet, first of all, it means, A, you give the most fucks,

and B, I cannot stand that fucking phrase. I know. Zero fucks. Yeah, yeah. Get the fuck out of here. You give the most fucks, motherfucker. That's why you got to announce it.

Yeah. All right? Secondly, what it means is that these people are using that battle cry to justify their shittiness. That is not do you. That's right. Do you is be the is not do you. That's right. Do you is be the best version of you. That's right.

And if people don't like it, pay no mind to them and keep on that path. And I'm a firm believer too, and I've learned this over time, is you know when you're doing wrong. There's an inherent code inside your brain where people know when they're fucking up. You don't have to...

Everybody does. The only. You don't have to- Everybody does. The only people that don't know that are people who are actual certified sociopaths. Okay. I agree with that. If you can be deathly honest when you look yourself in the mirror, when you fuck up, do you recognize it and can you make the adjustment moving forward? Or do you, quote unquote, do you and then continue down that path because you like doing the wrong?

There's a fine line there. And I think people want to use, especially in today's society, they want to use that as they're out for it's okay. No, no, no, motherfucker. It's still wrong. And you know it's wrong. And you know you're doing wrong. But then you're going to use the, well, I don't give a fuck what you think to justify it as being right to you. Dude, you know what I think, man?

Like, I really think this sometimes. I think sometimes there's, like, another alien civilization out there that has, like, inserted, like, all these different things into our society, and they're playing a fucking, like, it's like an experiment. Like, they're like, okay, well, what are these motherfuckers going to do if we do this? Was that after you smoked a joint with Obama? Yeah, right. Yeah, you're right after. I'm sitting over here thinking, I'm like, man.

But you know what the beauty is one you don't know and two it's still your job do the best you can that's right but like dude what i'm saying what i'm trying to say is is like you know we don't really know nobody fucking knows shit oh so certain people know how to operate within the confinements and the restraints of certain things like let's say in business right like certain people have figured out that it's a game it's a fucking game like everything is a little game it's just think of it like nintendo man like you try and get that next level like no i think there's a distinction that needs to be made and a lot of the so-called scholars have made this, and I think it's important distinction. There's a difference between reasonable certainty and absolute certainty.

You are reasonably certain, well, I would say because you've actually experienced it and found that it works. All the stuff that you've talked about on the MSCO project and the things that help people build businesses, you are reasonably to confidently certain that those things work. But none of us is absolutely certain.

Newsflash, I am reasonably certain there is a God and that my religion is true. But I'm not absolutely certain that it's true any more than an atheist is absolutely certain. That's the purpose of faith. Right. Well, and I would say that's the purpose of humility. All of us need to, we can have meaningful conversations.

We can have- Are you ready? Yeah. I'm sorry, sorry i gotta cut you off because i'm fucking chomping here okay go ahead but this is my like this is my driving factor in life this is like this is me and i talk about all the time is i'm absolutely certain i'm gonna fucking die yeah i'm absolutely you're right there is one thing that's certain in life you know there's a couple things like gravity is a certainty there's fucking gravity taxes right yeah there's like we we have to breathe like there's certain things yeah i guess taxes actually aren't because you fall below certain but but yeah and i to your point yes but to my point death is certain which to me i always think okay at some point in time i'm gonna go see my scorecard of how i live life like i'm gonna get there and i think there's gonna

be a guy that's checking off like you know like how do you get through the gates and maybe what happens? It's how good you did the life before. And so you go back to your moral compass of between right and wrong. I'm always playing the game to myself saying, okay, I, at the end of the day, I've realized that you, if you can, if you can compound more good decisions on top of the bad decisions, you win. Well, life is going to be no different. When I die, I hope that I've made as many good fucking decisions as I possibly could to win that game. I don't know what the game is. I don't have a damn clue. I have faith that there's something there, but I'm trying to do my very best in each and every single day of making one good decision on top of another, on top of another, on top of another, my way, the way that I think the game should be played, so that when I die,

hopefully I got a high score. I know that's... Dude, either way you win, because even if there is nothing after it... I did my best. You did a good job while you were here. I did my best. Right. Yeah.

There's a tension in the Bible, and I think it's one that I try to hold very clearly and delicately, which is that Jesus tells the story of the two men that were standing on the street corner, and one of them is what we would call a very respectable religious leader. And he literally sits there and he prays, oh God, I thank you that I'm not like other men. I thank you that I haven't done this, and I thank you that I'm so good at this. And it's just literally this exercise in human pride, right? And then there's another guy who, for the culture at the time, was considered one of the most despised people. He was a tax collector, which is, I guess, not too different from nowadays. But the tax collector, on the other hand, his prayer was like, God, I suck. Be merciful to me.

And Jesus asked, which one of those guys do you think is more pleasing to God? And the people at the time would have thought that it was the respectable religious guy. But Jesus is like, no. It's the guy that basically said, I'm humble. I know my need of you. So the tension in Scripture, as I understand Scripture, is we are to do everything we can. To do good works. To do good deeds.

To be our best possible self. You know, it's that Ecclesiastes. I thank God every day that I'm who the fuck I am. Right, it's Ecclesiastes. So that's wrong, huh? Hold on. Hold that thought. Ecclesiastes 9.10 says,

whatever you do, do with all your might for you're serving the Lord, right? So we are supposed to, this is what I've learned from you guys. We are supposed to be fierce and competitive and driven and becoming the best possible version of ourselves

but really at the end of the day we have to say phew gotta be merciful I'm not who I should be well that's that's why I follow it up with right

I'm like hey thanks for making me me and thanks for all the challenges and thanks for all the things you allow me to learn um help me figure it the fuck out

cause I don't know and you know what I actually i actually missed i actually misquoted that i actually misquoted that that uh story i said that the the pharisee the religious leader said god thank you for who i am that's not what he said he said i thank you that i'm not like other men meaning he said he was basically seeing himself as superior to other people all right i misspoke that no and i know you didn't dude i know that but anyway so so here's what i was going to say He was basically seeing himself as superior to other people. Oh, got it, got it. All right. I misspoke that. No. And I know you didn't, dude. I know you didn't. But anyway, so here's what I was going to say. No, I actually thank God that I am a regular dude who has regular struggles and has regular things happen.

Because I meet a lot of people, especially in the fucking clown circuits that we just spent five years in, that literally think they're better than everybody. Right. Dude, I have to admit, you're a business genius, but I actually think that a real key to your success over the last three or four years has been the authenticity and the transparency with which you have just said, I'm a regular dude. I got struggles just like everybody else. And that's what I was going to say to, to transition to what I was going to say is, would you, this is where I didn't want to put words in your mouth, but do you think it's fair to say, you know, we did these 300 episodes of the MFCO project.

Those were specifically designed to speak, you know, tell people what they needed to hear to build a business from a startup to nine figures. We also get, gave a lot of information about mental toughness, that sort of stuff. And it was real in your face. It was real sort of prescriptive and educational. Do you almost feel like what we're doing now is like you're just going to say, all right, I am who I am. I'm going to talk about every fucking thing. I'm going to talk about everything. I'm going to enjoy it.

We're going to laugh. And hopefully I influence you to become a better person. That's pretty much it. And to do it right. Yeah. To me, I think that's the fundamental difference. Well, look, man. Or support them in being the best version of them.

And it's okay if they think weird shit or they want to do something different. Like, dude, you're not fucked up. Yeah. You know, like, go, run. Yeah, dude. And that's, you know, I just want, I guess, like, look, dude, a couple things I say to that. No, you're right. A hundred percent.

But I will add also this. I'm not fucking Jesus. I'm not fucking Jesus. I'm not even close. And I get tired. I got really fucking tired of the standard that people tried to hold me to because I was teaching them about business. I don't feel, that standard that they were holding me to is not fair. And it's not something I enjoyed. And it's not something I even hold myself to because I don't,

dude, you know why I don't have fucking kids? One, we had a lot of trouble trying to have them. Two, I'm not sure I enjoyed and it's not something I even hold myself to because I don't dude you know why I don't have fucking kids one we had a lot of trouble trying to have them two I'm not sure I really fucking want them okay because I do like certain things that aren't really that cool for kids all right um not saying kids are bad or good that maybe they're just not for me I don't know he likes two-door cars it's not conducive to kids that's right i love two-door cars yeah and i but but like dude for example like you know they would say shit like oh dude you wrote my kids books and you say the f word well i didn't put them in the fucking book what the fuck but you admit we did think about yeah we did doing that for fun yeah but like not for that series but for something else for the adults like make a. Yeah, but like- Not for that series, but for something else. For the adults, like make a funny one. Right, right, right.

But like, you know, like I couldn't even tell a joke, man. If I told a joke, people look at me like, oh my God, I can't believe that he said that. I'm so offended. Fuck you, man. Well, you can be part of the- I'm not your fucking dancing clown. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, the other motherfuckers will dance for you.

You know why they'll dance for you? Because they got to. Right. I don't have to. Well, and the other thing is you can be part of the problem, part, the other motherfuckers will dance for you. You know why they'll dance for you? Because they got to. Right. I don't have to. Well, and the other thing is you can be part of the problem, part of the solution. Yeah, and that's what, you know what? This is the solution. Yeah.

Because the goal here is to fucking make people reverse their offensive whatever and fucking have a good time. Learn some shit, have a laugh, be a good motherfucker, and you'll have a good life. That's reality. You know what? Because a good life, and you'll have a good life. That's reality. You know what? Because a good life is surrounded by a lot of good people with a lot of good friends and a lot of good memories. And when you can fucking get to that level, you learn a lot about people, you get to hear

all their weird fucking shit, and you're fine. Yeah, but the funny thing is, is like, people will come here, and they see how you and I interact with people, how we just, like, dude, listen. If you have thin skin, you cannot work here. It's impossible. Like, the shit that happens here, it would not be allowed other places. That's just reality.

That's our culture. It's not that we do bad shit. We're not discriminating. And you know what? There has been situations where people got their feelings hurt, and you know what? I felt fucking horrible. I'd pull them in. And you dealt with it and i'd say hey look bro you're part of the team this is why we do these things if that hurts your feelings i didn't intend to do that

and you know what usually happens they're like oh yeah and they're like oh and you know what happens the next day say hey andy what's you fat motherfucker? You know what I'm saying? And now, all right, you're getting it. Like, this is how we do it. So it's, you know, dude, fuck. I will say this, though. The MSCEO project, aside from the standard that was those kind of things. Like, dude, you understand what I'm saying? Like, if I post something, it got to the point where, dude, like, just like I posted the other day.

Like, if I didn't do a show, people were like, Andy abandoned us. Like, motherfucker, it's not my obligation to fucking hold your motherfucking hand. Like, you're a bitch. Like, take the information that you're getting for fucking free. Go out and do some shit with it. That's the point. I'm not holding your fucking hand. And I'm certainly not holding're getting for fucking free. Go out and do some shit with it. That's the point. I'm not holding your fucking hand. And I'm certainly not holding your fucking hand for free.

That's real. I can't afford to do it. So I got, dude, I just got tired of that. Whether it be real or not real, I perceived the standard being inched up for me, which I wasn't comfortable with because it's not who the fuck I am. So this is different.

And this is going to be different. Now, dude, I've had literally, no bullshit, thousands and thousands and thousands of people reach out and say, thank you. I appreciate what you guys did. It was amazing. I was here and now I'm 10 times, I was at X

and now I'm fucking 100X. You know what I mean? And dude, that shit was worth it and that's why it's there and that's what it's supposed to be used for. But this is not that.

And it ain't ever gonna be. And, you know, people think, oh my God, Andy's got no filter. Well, you don't even fucking know,

motherfuckers. I have no idea. Is this episode one? This is episode one. Well, you don't even fucking know, motherfuckers. I have no idea. Is this episode one? This is episode one. Oh, I didn't even know. Yeah. Welcome. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. So let's talk about that. Yeah. You know, I would like to say that, you know, it's probably pretty obvious now that you guys have figured out what we're doing. This is a new show yeah you're going to have to go subscribe to this show because this new show is actually in a completely different category so what category are we in uh well we're in a couple categories

but the main category is society and culture, and the subcategory is comedy. And I believe the third subcategory is news and current events. Okay, so it's going to be a blend of all that shit. Let's just say that. So let's get this started. You're going to go. The show is called Real AF with Andy Frisella. It will be a conversational-based show.

It will be a show like your ears just had the pleasure of hearing, where we will talk with different guests and different topics, and it will be more guests, but the guests won't necessarily be Mr. fucking entrepreneur. They're going to be interesting people who have shit to say of value or just entertainment. We might come on here, and we might just make jokes. Tell stories. We might come on here and we might just make jokes tell stories we might come on here and we might talk about all the problems in the world i don't fucking know it's whatever we feel like talking but it's going to be with interesting people who have different perspectives and it's going to be cool and it's going to be fun and we're going to

have a good time and we're going to laugh and we're not going to get offended and if you get offended fuck you don't listen turn the fucking channel okay yeah i agree and that's what we're not going to get offended. And if you get offended, fuck you. Don't listen. Turn the fucking channel. Okay. Yeah, I agree. And that's what we're going to do. You know, and I would like to say to, to all of you guys who supported the MFCEO project, you don't have to stop supporting it. It still exists. It's still there. Send your friends, send your family. If anybody who needs it, it's there, but this is not who I am. It's not who I am anymore. I've evolved. I've progressed. Vaughn has progressed. Big changes have happened. You know, there's things that are changing with us, just like they change with you. And this is a new chapter and I am fucking excited about it because dude, I feel a sense of relief. I feel like, okay, I like what Sal was saying. I've come to terms with like,

all right, not everybody's going to like my shit. Cool shit cool cool I think I'm doing things okay in life but maybe that's just my fucking gigantic ego talking let's be real um I think you're right dude look I believe that I'm doing okay and I believe I've got a good grasp on some of the shit that's going on and how we can fucking fix it. And we're going to talk about some of that stuff. But we're also going to talk about fucking shit that is just goofy or whatever. But I would like to say, for all of you guys who supported the MFCEO project for the last five years, because I know there's a lot of you, I just want to say thank you.

Like, thank you so much. Because that shit, what we do here is hard. It costs a lot of money to do. It takes a lot of time to do. It takes a lot of effort from a lot of people to put these products out. And so I appreciate you guys supporting, you know, those guys who left reviews multiple times and recommended their friends and pay the fee. We're going to ask those same things for this podcast. So if you enjoyed this podcast, if you thought it was good,

what I want you to do is I want you to go over to wherever you're listening and I want you to type in the search Real AF with Andy Frisella and this new podcast is going to pop up. And then I want you to click subscribe. And then, what's then? Oh, I actually have another episode that you can listen to right now on that channel. So we gave you two episodes today. This was one. That's number two. And you can go subscribe and listen right now.

And I would appreciate if you did that. You leave us a little review to get us started off on the right track. Because our goal is, is obviously world domination. Obviously. That's the goal. So what do you have to say, bro? All I was going to say is I've told a lot of people that outside of my marriage and the birth of my children, one of the best things that's ever happened to me

was the first time I ever taught a college class, I taught a public speaking class, and at the end of the course, I got a standing ovation. And it just felt so affirming that what I did was of value. And I got to tell you, when we announced that we were going to have the last episode of the MFCO project, I didn't get as many DMs as you did and emails and messages, but I got a whole lot of them. And I got messages and DMs and people saying, I just want to thank you and Andy for the way that you help. You helped me build my business. I started out broke and now I'm six, seven figures because we built this legitimate business.

I've taken the life skills and the life lessons that you guys taught and to transform my life. And they were just like, you got them, dude. They were just incredibly heartfelt and meaningful. And it meant a lot to me. And it's become one of the biggest, biggest satisf um, satisfactions of my life, uh, to have been a part of that. And I'm just looking forward to, to, to continuing this on a different, you know, kind of a different style, a different format. And I think one of the things I was going to tell people is that, yeah, as you heard, I didn't, I did move five hours away, but we feel so strongly about putting out good content and we we enjoy having deep conversations that

really are meaningful that i'm gonna i'm gonna drive five hours a day or five hours at a time on a regular basis so that you and i can continue to do this and bring in people like sal and other exciting people that that uh that share you know our love of good conversations so guys i'm excited keep keep with us because it's going to be a fun ride. Yeah, and look, guys, I do want to say something too at the end before we go. You know, with all the effort and expense

that goes into these things, I'm not saying this just for us. I'm saying this for everybody that you support. When they post shit on Instagram, fucking comment. Say something. When they post shit that you, fucking comment, say something. When they post shit that you think is real, share it. When they make a podcast that you love, leave a review,

tell a friend. That's just good shit to do for people because I can tell you for sure, people spend a lot of money doing this and there's a lot of people that don't have to do this. And if we had more people that didn't have to do this doing it, we'd have better information. And the way you pay those people is by supporting them. So not just us, but other people that you care about too. Be more supportive, be vocal. When people chirp off, fucking put them in their place. Say something. This is kind of like a self-regulating little community of realists. And know, and that's, that's what it is. It's the real AF and we're the fucking realists. So go over, type in real AF, click subscribe, leave us a review, listen to the next episode. We'll see you guys soon.