REAL AF with Andy Frisella - Through Hell, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO133

Episode Date: March 21, 2017

Every entrepreneur feels at times as if they are going through hell. Whether it is experiencing the paralysis of self-doubt, a gnawing sense of isolation, or discouragement and depression, struggle is... par for the course. In this episode, Andy Frisella serves as a guide through the underworld and provides his thoughts on confronting and overcoming the trials and tribulations that are faced by men and women who are serious about running their own business.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up guys you're listening to the MFCEO project I'm Andy I'm your host and I am the motherfucking CEO guys today we have a good podcast it's gonna talk about a lot of things that we deal with as entrepreneurs emotionally mentally and mindset wise. Before I get into that, before we start talking about that, I want to let you know, like, I got some comments on my Instagram yesterday from a couple of loyal listeners that I respect their opinion very much that were regarding us providing the next level of content. And I want to address that really quick. I don't get fucking paid to do this.
Starting point is 00:00:52 So you guys aren't paying me, and I'm giving you literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars worth of information for fucking free. I don't hold anything back. I'm not holding the secret sauce from you. Uh, I'm not, you know, keeping the, the, whatever the secret recipe is for myself. I'm telling you the facts and there's very few fucking people out there that do this. I would say I know of one other guy who does this and doesn't ask for it. His name is Gary V. He gives out a ton
Starting point is 00:01:26 of information for free. Both of us have our own perspectives on how we operate and what we've done. And if you go through the content that both of us have produced over the last couple of years, you are likely going to find the fucking answer to your question. Okay. We've covered marketing, we've covered sales, we've covered culture, we've covered, you know, retention, we've covered marketing We've covered sales we've covered culture We've covered you know Retention we've covered how to start a business I've had guests on here that have Started a business from zero to fucking Literally hundreds of millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:01:54 What the fuck else Can I do for you and I'm asking that Legitimately because It really bothered me to get that comment That said hey I'm waiting for you To get to the next level of content. And your content's getting repetitive. That fucking irritated me because I felt like what I was getting asked for was the secret.
Starting point is 00:02:16 You know, I went and asked this person three different times in the comments. What do you want from me? What do you want? What do you want? Well, here, guess what? Tell me what the fuck you want. If you have a question, I'll answer it. But I'm telling you that if you listen to the podcast from episode one to episode now 133, which is literally fucking a thousand hours worth of fucking content, you will find the answer. And this is part of what we want to talk about today is the mentality
Starting point is 00:02:47 that there's some sort of thing that you don't fucking know. Look, man, when I started in business, I didn't have fucking Google. I didn't have all these resources. I couldn't connect with people on the internet or follow people or see what other people were doing. I had books. I couldn't connect with people on the internet or follow people or see what other people were doing. I had books. I had people I knew personally, but that was it. You know, you guys are so fucking equipped to succeed in today's society. And yet you still sit there with your hand under your fucking ass and look for somebody to guide you all the way. What else could somebody like me or somebody like Gary fucking do for you? Do you want me to come to your fucking house and hold your fucking hand and take you along the journey for you? Because I'm
Starting point is 00:03:37 going to tell you, I'm not fucking doing that. I'm busy running my own shit. I've got my own fucking family here to take care of. And when I say family, I mean 130 employees. I have to worry about their welfare. So don't come at me and say, oh, I'm waiting for the next level content because there isn't any next level content, motherfucker. There's the fucking way it is. And business is not complicated. It's very fucking simple. And I've told you the truth from episode one to 133. Business is fucking simple. That doesn't mean it's easy, but it's fucking simple. And if you master the simple things, you can become very fucking successful.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The reason you motherfuckers don't build any success is because you're always looking for the more complicated way to do something. You're always looking for the secret. You're always looking for that thing that we know that you don't. And I'm telling you that thing doesn't fucking exist. The thing that you need to do is go out and fucking do it. That's the secret. And you guys spend so much fucking time commenting and emailing and saying this dumb fucking shit. Like we're going to the next level. The fuck is the next level motherfucker? What am I telling you that you don't fucking, that I haven't told you? I'm sorry I'm not going to give you forex bullshit tips or trading penny
Starting point is 00:04:54 stocks because that's not what I fucking do. There's plenty of people on the internet that'll charge you $5,000 for some bullshit program and fucking teach you how to trade fucking stocks. I'm not a stock trader. I build companies. Get it? So stop fucking telling me that you're not getting the information that you, if you don't like what we're giving you, go fucking listen to someone else. Period. If you have a legit suggestion, please let me know. Leave it in the comment on Instagram. Fucking comment me on Facebook. Message me. The easiest way for me to know what the fuck you want is for you to leave a comment on my Instagram and say, hey, Andy, I would really like it if you guys would address this question. If you guys did that, I would be happy to tackle anything that you fucking give me,
Starting point is 00:05:42 and I'm confident that I can give you a sufficient answer. Now, with that being said, why don't we create Vaughn, I'm pointing at Vaughn, an email address people can email just for topic ideas or questions. We'll just call it questions at MFCEO. Can we do that? Right. Well, we actually have Ask Andy and I guess most people don't realize that that's really what that's for. Okay's let's start a new one i'm gonna start a new one yeah because that one gets all kinds of will you invest in me or you fucking lend me this look motherfucker i'm not giving you no money right i'm not investing your fucking idea i'm not investing your fucking app i'm not an angel investor like every motherfucker on the internet tries to claim they are that's not me okay i fucking keep my money i spend it on fucking cars i don't spend it on you can i have some no you get too much anyway but dude we can do questions don't fucking hit me up asking me
Starting point is 00:06:39 we're gonna start questions questions at the mfco.com. If you have a topic idea or a question that you would like addressed, email it. If you write in, hey, lend me some fucking money or invest in my app or invest in this, we're going to fucking block you from the email list. Right. Because I don't fucking do that. Right. Go out and make your own fucking money. Another thing I have to tell people is that if you want your question
Starting point is 00:07:05 answered just put it in the subject line and don't or at least a summary of it right and don't don't take a page and a half to ask your question no i don't need to know your whole fucking story i i appreciate your life story but guess what i'm not gonna fucking read it period that's the thing okay put your fucking question in in a fucking one or two sentence, three sentence fucking format, and we'll answer it. But if you write some fucking five page email, I'm not fucking looking at it. You know why? Cause I have fucking time to do that. That's reality. And all these other motherfuckers on the internet, all these other motherfuckers on the internet talk about empathy. And I listen and I read all your shit, bull fucking shit. They do.
Starting point is 00:07:49 They don't read all your shit. They got a fucking assistant or two assistants that read your shit and fucking comment back and pretend they're that person and that's not what I'm gonna do so I'm just sorry make it short sweet and I'll fucking answer if you take a long time you're gonna get fucking ignored that's just that's the way it goes let me just add that there's a huge difference between repetition and reinforcement look dude here's the thing these motherfuckers want the fucking secret they want the fucking secret sauce the business is the fucking basic shit mastered over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again reinforcement yes and every over again. Reinforcement. Yes. And every single time we have new, what you guys have to realize
Starting point is 00:08:28 is that you guys who have been listening from day one, we have new people that come into this podcast at episode 133 or episode 100 or episode 90. And some of the things are going to fucking overlap. That's the nature of a podcast. But you know why they overlap, Vaughn? Because there isn't that much shit to talk about. It's really fucking simple. It's mastery of those concepts a podcast. You know why they overlap Vaughn? Because there isn't that much shit to talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It's really fucking simple. It's mastery of those concepts that's difficult. Go read all Tony Robbins books. They're all the same. They're just reworded in a different way. You know why? Because there is no new shit. It's the same shit over and over and over and over again. And you guys who are looking for this fucking simple answer, you're never going to fucking get it. You know, I get so worn out by people. Like I'm getting into one of my funks again, why don't you want to fucking do this show? Because people irritate the fuck out of me on their lack of fucking initiative and real drive to do things. Instead, they want to write emails and connect and get attention, you know, and like, like, like it matters if I like your fucking comment. Really? Like I'm nobody. I'm a dude who's made some fucking money. Who's trying to tell you how to make some money. Don't try to get my attention. Why don't you go out and make me get, make you get
Starting point is 00:09:39 my attention by what you fucking do. You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, it's old. I'm getting fucking tired of it. You guys can quit being fucking little delicate pussies and go out and fucking conquer shit instead of talking about it or emailing me another question. You don't need me to answer another fucking question. If you listen to the podcast from fucking one to one 33, you can fucking go out and build anything period. You're just choosing not to. Or you didn't fucking listen. Or you're not listening enough. Because there's nothing excluded. It's just the way it is.
Starting point is 00:10:13 As always, guys, I'm joined by my fucking co-host, Vaughn the Impaler. What's up, dude? It's good to be with you, man. Yeah. Sorry to get that off my chest, man. No, no. I feel you. I think that if if
Starting point is 00:10:25 people can say well i'm just waiting for new information it's funny that i fucking asked the guy three times and he couldn't fucking answer me back right what he wanted right but you know if people can say well i'm just waiting for that key information i'm waiting for that special sauce then they can delay action and it gives them an excuse and so yeah no i i absolutely agree oh it's my fault i'm not giving you the information okay motherfucker you know how much money i make a fucking hour like just my time right like it's insane you know like and i don't i'm not apologizing for that because i earn it but like dude for me to sit down and do this shit for fucking free and have people say that to me
Starting point is 00:11:00 it makes me want to knock their fucking teeth out of their head. Like for real. No, I know. Like it's so fucking, it's so fucking unappreciative. And like, just, you know what? Like, I don't even,
Starting point is 00:11:12 I don't think he meant it that way, but that's how it comes across to me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, dude, what the fuck else do you want from me? Like I'm doing more than fucking anybody.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Like dude, Gary, Gary would, I would say Gary and I are only two people out there doing this. Everybody else is charging you a bunch of fucking money, you know? And like, dude, I am going to start some courses and I am going to make some money, but as for right now, I've done all this shit for fucking free. So, you know, if you want like micro detail, hold your hand shit, I'll happy to run through, but I'm going to get fucking get fucking paid for it there's nothing wrong with that because dude i have fucking millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars of education in my fucking brain that is worth something right
Starting point is 00:11:54 i just think most people i use the analogy most people are reservoirs they just want more and more and more and more information and all that water does is it just it just rises and rises and just sits there and does nothing whereas really truly successful people are like a river yeah the rivers the the information comes in and it flows and and it goes out in a particular direction and i just think again it's people just want more and more information they want they want to provide themselves with excuses they want to pretend to be a fucking entrepreneur. Right. These are the same motherfuckers that, you know, maybe, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like it's people that pretend they want to put entrepreneur in their fucking profile and really what that means is unemployed.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You know what I'm saying? Right. It's just like, dude, go out and fucking do it. Right. Like, it really is that simple right have you ever heard that story like dude do you know what do you know how fucking much money i would make or made have made had i like let's say i started right now in business at 19 years like back when i was 19 all right let's say that was now today in 2017. Do you know how fucking much money I would have made already in my life?
Starting point is 00:13:06 It would be 10 fucking fold what I've already made. 10 fucking fold. Because, dude, I did not have the information. I didn't have fucking Google. I didn't have people I could follow on the fucking internet. Guess what? The internet was just being born. Social media didn't fucking exist.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And these motherfuckers cry about fucking not getting enough information no you should be crying because you're too big of a bitch to go out and fucking act on it that's your fucking problem how did people back in the fucking 60s build businesses or in the in the 80s you know what do they do do they reach out to write do they write a million letters to someone until finally they figured it out and went out and worked? Dude, you either just do it or you don't fucking do it. Right. And that's what you have to look yourself in the mirror for.
Starting point is 00:13:53 If you're an entrepreneur, a real entrepreneur, you go out and you fucking do shit. Do you study? Do you read? Do you learn? Absolutely. But at the end of the day you spend a lot more time doing the shit you're doing than listening to motherfuckers like me get it absolutely got it
Starting point is 00:14:11 let me tell you this quick story about whoopi gold because i think it's right exactly down the line of what you're talking about so somebody comes up to her and says oh i'm a huge fan i've always wanted to be an actor tell me how to become an actor because I love acting. And she says, okay, well, have you felt this way all your life? Yes. So were you in any plays in junior high? No. Did you go try out for any plays in high school?
Starting point is 00:14:35 No. Are you out of high school now? Yeah. Is there a community playhouse in your area that you could get involved in? Yeah. Have you? No. Well, then you don't want to be an actor.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You want to be famous. And I think that's the, she's like, because if you really want to be an actor, there's all sorts of opportunities to act. Dude, that's the- You know what I'm saying? Yes. That's the thing. I like the idea of it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Dude, exactly. Right. Exactly. So people say they want to be an entrepreneur. Yes. No. No, no, no, no, no. What they really want to do is they watch my snapchat
Starting point is 00:15:05 and they want to drive around in my fucking rolls royce listen rick ross right because that's what they think this is about right and they want to fly somewhere on a private jet and they want to be on a stage and they want people to fucking see them and they want you know they want to sit in front of a microphone and sound like they know what the fuck they're talking about. That's what they want. They don't want to actually go fucking do it. Like, you know, it doesn't work that way. And that's, I just don't understand the mentality. Like, it's taken me fucking 17 years to get where we are. 17 full fucking years. And I've forgotten most of the struggles. Like, most of the struggles, like most of the struggles,
Starting point is 00:15:48 like people are like, Oh man, you talk about the struggles. I've forgotten most of them. Like the ones I tell you, like there was a million more. It wasn't just the ones I'm telling you. It's every day, you know? And like people were like, Oh, I want to fucking build this business. And then three months later, they're fucking quit. fucking quit like three months saying shit you know what i mean like i just i just don't understand the problem is you have all these motherfuckers on the internet teaching these fucking kids that that they could get rich in 12 fucking months if they buy the fucking program you know oh make passive income if anybody tells you to make passive income run for for the fucking hills. There is no fucking such thing. There is no fucking passive income where you just sit around and fucking, you know, watch TV and chill and fucking go out with your buddies and you're making millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Anybody who says passive income is selling you some bullshit. You know, the reason they get passive income is because they're lying to you and they don't, you know, you're too dumb to fucking realize it. Like, if you buy something that says passive income, you're a dumb motherfucker. I'm serious. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Like, if you're listening to this and you buy something that says passive income, you're dumb as fuck. As if all you have to do is check your bank account. You're fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. Like, you deserve to get fucking ripped off. Mm-hmm. Maybe we should start a course on passive income. I'd buy it. I know you would, you lazy motherfucker. Well, listen, let me introduce our topic,
Starting point is 00:17:13 because I think this actually... Is it about passive income? Well, it's... Because I know that's what everybody wants. Yeah, no. No, so, you know, I'm a literature guy. I'm a writing guy. There's a great book Classic epic
Starting point is 00:17:25 Called Dante's Inferno Where the main character Goes through hell But he's He's accompanied by A guide Who kind of gets him Out of hell
Starting point is 00:17:32 And into heaven That's what we're Going to do today Because Entrepreneurship All the things Involved with building A business
Starting point is 00:17:40 As you would agree There's days that you Just feel like hell Right So you're going to be The guide That's going to navigate people through hell. Well, I think I should be the fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I think you should. You know why? Because you're the devil. No, because out of all the motherfuckers that you guys watch and listen to, and I watch you motherfuckers comment and like other people's shit, I'm the only one that's built a real fucking business. Right. Gary's built a real business, but outside of that, who else?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Who else has built a fucking business that you could come to and fucking see and recognized all over the world and there's a recognized fucking brand you know what i'm saying like why the fuck would you pay somebody money who has never built a fucking company the fuck is wrong with you i mean what why like the first thing i look at when i qualify people is like what the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, why? Like the first thing I look at when I qualify people is like, what the fuck is this guy actually done? What makes him qualified? Oh, because he makes neat videos or he fucking talks nice on the Internet or he's well-spoken or fucking whatever. How about this? What the fuck did you build?
Starting point is 00:18:40 What did you put out in real life? How many people did you employ? How much did you sell your company for? Real shit. How did you even make the money that you have now? Exactly. You made it by selling people lies about yourself. And these fucking people buy it.
Starting point is 00:18:55 They buy it. It's unbelievable to me. Like, unbelievable. Like, dude, I'm in the wrong fucking business if people are that fucking stupid. I'm serious. Well, you have ethics. Yeah, that's true. But I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like, how fucking dumb are, I mean, like, for real? People buy hope, and that's what these guys give them. Yeah, but it's not accredited or qualified hope right you know if you're gonna buy hope you buy it for someone who's gonna tell you the fucking truth or show you what they've done or has done something you know what i mean like you don't buy for some knucklehead who fucking who runs ads on fucking facebook and youtube and fucking, you know, how much money he made doing something he never fucking did. You know, like, dude, these people, it's just unbelievable to me.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. It's like we talked about when Gerard was here. Like, Gerard's built a real fucking company. You know what I'm saying? Dan Fleischman. I was just thinking Dan. Dan Fleischman.
Starting point is 00:20:02 20 fucking companies. You know what I'm saying? Mike Dillard. Real company. You know what I'm saying Mike Dillard Real company You know what I'm saying We don't have people On this fucking show That haven't built real shit
Starting point is 00:20:09 You know why Because I don't fucking like people That haven't built real shit That try to pretend like the expert You know what I mean Gary's been on the show Yep Like dude
Starting point is 00:20:19 I just don't understand How people can be so fucking dumb I just don't I how people can be so fucking dumb. I just don't. I don't get it. I agree. Because if you're that dumb, how the fuck do you get the thousand bucks to fucking pay for a program?
Starting point is 00:20:33 You go into debt. You put it on a credit card. Which is like double dumb. Yeah. Like they need two fucking helmets on a daily basis. You know like in the NFL? They need one of those cones that dogs wear. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:43 You know in the NFL when someone's got a concussion They put one of them Foam helmets over the real helmet That's what those Motherfuckers need A helmet's helmet You know what I'm talking about Those fucking stupid looking ones
Starting point is 00:20:52 What's funny is It's actually triple dumb Because they should be Putting that thousand dollars Into their business idea No but if they didn't buy it At least they spend it On fucking something
Starting point is 00:21:01 To try to learn Instead of buy it Because if it wasn't on that It'd be on fucking Jordans Some other dumb shit Fucking Yeezys dudes walking around make fucking 20 grand a year wearing 600 fucking sneakers the fuck out of here all for the gram yeah so obviously the uh scam artists make the life of the entrepreneur uh into you know well dude they teach these kids the wrong thing yeah you know and that's not cool
Starting point is 00:21:26 right because that's not what this is right you know this is a real fucking this is a real thing it's probably the hardest thing you could do it's hard it's a it is the hardest profession it is harder than being an athlete it is harder than being a doctor it's harder than being a fucking whatever way fucking harder harder. Way more stressful. Way less certain. Way more risky. It's the hardest thing you could possibly do. But yeah, all these stupid motherfuckers out there are buying these programs that tell them it's easy because they want the easy way.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Right. Simple, simple solution. You know what? Come and tell me how much money any of you motherfuckers made on fucking penny stocks and fucking Forex. Let me know. Because I guarantee you not one motherfucker out of 1.3 something million people listening to this has made fucking money. The only motherfuckers making money are the ones selling the quarters on it. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Okay. So entrepreneurialism is hard. Yeah, it's really fucking hard. So we've had quite a few emails actually from people who are killing it, but they're acting as if it's unusual for them to have days where they're just beating their heads against the wall, feeling alone, feeling isolated, feeling frustrated, really going through hell. They're acting like this is abnormal. Welcome to entrepreneurship. Right. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So I want to talk about that. Come sit at our fucking table. Yeah. So. Now you're in a big boy seat. You've been through hell. I want you to guide people through hell. I go through it every day.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Right. Dude, every fucking day. Every day. Every fucking day. It's hard. I don't go, I don't have one. Dude, I haven't been on a legit vacation since 2011. These motherfuckers think, oh, you've got all this money.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You do whatever the fuck you want. Wrong. Oh, you can have all this freedom. Wrong. Because you know what? I got a fucking cell phone these days. And that cell phone connects me to every little fucking disaster that happens on a fucking hourly basis. Which is exactly what was happening in the 30 minutes leading up to our
Starting point is 00:23:26 program today. Yeah, no, we, we started an hour and a half late because I was fucking dealing with shit, but that's, but do what you just saw me do. That's my whole day.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You know what I'm saying? And like people don't understand that because you know, they're taught that entrepreneurship is this alternative thing that is fun and easy and great. And you know what? It can be fun and it can be great and there are moments that are fucking unbelievable you know what i mean but they're not the moments you think you know the moments that are more unbelievable are like when you're when your main guy goes out and buys a fucking new house or they have a kid and and they you know they upgrade their house or they they buy a new car they have some success.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That's the cool shit. But people don't think, they don't even realize that because you have to go through the shit to understand that. But anyhow. That speaks to another issue, though, which is once you really do make it and you get, not make it, but when you get to a certain level, you're not just bearing responsibility for your own life. You do, if you're a person with ethics, you do feel responsible for all the people that are that work for you which just adds to your stress it's a fact it's not a matter of perspective you are responsible for them you know what i mean the bigger and more people you employ the more you fucking worry about them you know if you you
Starting point is 00:24:40 know dude it's there's a lot man you know at the end of the day, anything worthwhile is going to be hard, you know, and, and, and average people and people who don't have shit going on and people who fucking point the finger and say, Oh, they're so lucky, dude, they don't ever have to fucking worry about feeling like shit because they don't ever attempt anything great. You know what I mean? So like their lives are fucking, they're living in ignorance. They're living in a place of like no, uh, comprehension of what it actually takes. So they don't feel bad. And like, dude, you know, I've talked to a lot of successful people and they're like, man, I feel bad for these people who don't get it. Don't feel bad for those people because those people are happy. Those people are in a box that confines them that they, in their perspective, in their mind and their
Starting point is 00:25:24 brain, they're doing the right things. And it and really there's there's no reason you should go fucking spoil that for them you know what i mean ignorance is bliss right like it's like the matrix you take the red pill and the blue pill man you don't you don't go force somebody to have the fucking blue pill so in your mind that feeling of frustration that feeling of just being embattled that's actually indicative of a good thing i think if you want to be successful, it is. Because dude, where does your drive come from? Where does the hunger come from? Where does everything come from? It comes from fear. It comes from you. You run a lot fucking faster when you're getting chased by a lion as opposed when you're trying to go run to eat. You know what I mean? It's about leveraging your own emotion
Starting point is 00:26:02 and understanding that and living with the uncertainty that nothing is guaranteed for an entrepreneur. And a lot of people just can't fucking mentally handle that. You know what I mean? They just are not built for that kind of mental game. And so they get stressed. They get angry. They get depressed. They get upset.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And they just can't do it. And you have to realize, and like, this is a quote that I picked up from Tony Robbins a number of years ago that stuck with me. Um, and I don't know if I'm quoting him exactly, but you know, it's, it's close. Uh, he said, you're, you're the success you'll see is in direct proportion to the uncertainty that you can live with. And there, there's, when I first heard that, I didn't know what it meant, but dude, it's the truth. Like, the more uncomfortable, the more uncertainty, the more of that you can live with,
Starting point is 00:26:50 the more successful you can be, and like I've talked about before, people spend so much time trying to run and be comfortable because they see their friends who are ignorant to what it actually takes be happy, and they want to be that happy, so they try to run and be comfortable with them, but you can't run and be comfortable with them We're ignorant to what it actually takes. Be happy. And they want to be that happy. So they try to run and be comfortable with them.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But you can't run and be comfortable with them and also build something at the same time. You know what I mean? It takes two totally different actionable courses of life to do that. And you just can't. And so, yeah, I think that feeling anxiety, stress, and all those things, I think those are good things. I think those are things that, you know, like you have to manage them. You know, you do things once in a while that get them that frees you up from that. But I think that's I mean, like when I say welcome to entrepreneurship, I'm being literal. Like, I mean, at least for me, man, I don't know, like every entrepreneur I've ever talked to, no matter how much money they make,
Starting point is 00:27:47 like if you get them to talk to you on a real fucking, like a real genuine, authentic level, they'll tell you the same thing. So Tony's comment that you paraphrased, is he essentially saying, listen, just get comfortable with the fact that life is messy. It just is. There's going to be uncertainty. There's going to be things that you can't manage. Yeah, but see, the cool thing is once you accept that,
Starting point is 00:28:09 all of that becomes less impactful on your mood and your stress and your anxiety because you just know that's the way it is. You know, if you know when you get out of bed every single day that you're going to get your ass kicked at least once today, you know, and you just accept it. it like today i'm getting my ass beat like that's a lot different than getting surprised by the ass beating every day you know what i mean yeah like if you eventually you just learn to live with it and and if you never ever learn to live with it or accept it then every day is ruined because you got your ass beat. Yeah. You know what I mean? So like, so like, so like now when I get up and I like, I know like today I'm probably getting my ass beat at least once. And I'm, but when it happens, it happens, I move on. You know, I don't let it ruin
Starting point is 00:28:55 my day. Like I go from that little thing to the next thing right away. But people who don't understand how to expect those challenges and those frustrations and you know, that I'm, that I'm, you know, generalizing and the term ass beating, you know, they don't, those people never get used to it. So like every time it happens, whether it happens at 10 o'clock in the morning or three o'clock in the afternoon or fucking six o'clock at night, it, the rest of their day is fucking done. You know what I mean? And you can't be productive and successful with that mentality because sometimes, and a lot of times that shit does happen at 10 a.m and if you only work from fucking eight o'clock till 10 o'clock every day and you let the your mood get
Starting point is 00:29:34 ruined the rest of the day and your productivity and all that you can't build anything you old enough to have ever watched gi joe well for those of you who aren't it was one of the good cartoons it was the best cartoon but it was i could never figure out when it was on it was like it was awesome but it was back in those days when you actually had cartoons about you know soldiers as opposed to like unicorns and stupid stuff like today yeah but they used to have i don't know if you remember this but they used to have public service announcements where like in between the middle of the episode there'd be kids playing by like a downed power line and they line, and they'd have water in their hands and everything,
Starting point is 00:30:07 and they were going to go near it, and some G.I. Joe guy would come along and say, hey, you know it's dangerous to play by downed power lines because you could get fried and die. And they would say, oh, we didn't know that. And the tagline at the end of the public service announcement, this is what I thought of when you were talking, was... Wait, now you know.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Now you know, right? And knowing is half the battle. announcement, this is what I thought of when you were talking, was- Wait, now you know. Now you know, right? Yeah. Knowing is half the battle. Yeah, that's right. Right? Yeah. And so that's what you're saying. I remember that, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Now you know. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle. And this is what you're saying. Didn't it have like that rainbow logo? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it wasn't a rainbow. It was the American flag.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Oh, is that what it was? Yeah, but- You were like 10 years older than me. I know, I know. But you know what I'm saying is that's what I hear you saying is that, listen guys, just understand that, that struggle, that challenge, that feeling of being beaten up.
Starting point is 00:30:50 That's part of it. Now, you know, right. And knowing is half the battle. Damn right. So I've on. Exactly. That worked pretty well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So my question then is, is it is another way to understand it is that if you are feeling that if you are feeling beaten up, frustrated, at least it's an indication that you're in the game. Yeah. You're not a spectator. Yeah. It's a good thing. So when people are going through hell, then, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Just think what your life could be like. Yeah. You could be working in a fucking cubicle. What's that movie? Office Space. Office Space. Yeah. Yeah. We're fucking. What's that movie? Office Space? Office Space. Yeah. We're fucking, what's the guy's name?
Starting point is 00:31:28 With the fucking TPS reports? You could have some motherfucker over your shoulder like that asking for TPS reports all fucking day. Lumberg or whatever his name was. Exactly. I'm going to need you to go ahead and work on Saturdays too. And Sundays. It's been a long time since I've seen that movie.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You're the fucking white guy rapping in the car. I am the white guy rapping in the car. With the windows rolled up. I'm like Eminem. When the windows roll up when you see a black guy, that's you. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so people going through hell, feelings of frustration, those are good things. You can reframe that to say, hey, I'm in the game and this is kind of all part of it. It's kind of all part of the process.
Starting point is 00:32:08 It is part of it. So what about, because I feel like we get this a lot, and actually I get this a lot on IG lately, is people saying, it's always funny because they always qualify it. They feel bad for admitting this, but they'll say, hey man, I feel sorry, but could you guys talk a little bit about what it feels like to feel like you're alone or isolated? And they almost like, again, they're apologizing for it. And I want to say, don't apologize for it. I think it's a pretty standard experience.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Well, being an entrepreneur by statistics is very rare. So, of course, you're going to fucking feel alone. You know, how many people do I know, like out of the thousands of people I know that are actually entrepreneurs? It's like a dozen. You know what I mean? So by the path you take, by nature, you're going to have a hard time
Starting point is 00:33:00 relating to everybody else you know because they're living in that box. And that's what we you know i made a couple posts on instagram about this over the last couple weeks about relationships being in transition and you know you have to realize that that is also like we said part of the process and when you you know when you start to not relate to the people that you've been in your circle, you're going to go through a period where you feel isolated and you feel alone. And that's another normal thing. And then you're going to get to a time where you meet other
Starting point is 00:33:35 people who are similar to what you're doing, similar mindsets, and you're gonna become friends with them. And it's a temporary thing. But I mean, I think every single person who is an entrepreneur goes through that. You can't look at it like it's the end thing. But I mean, I think every single person who is an entrepreneur goes through that. You can't look at it like it's the end of the world and you're going to be alone forever. It's just a fucking transition mentally. And again, if you have the proper perspective of what we're talking about,
Starting point is 00:33:58 like G.I. Vaughn said, you know, what'd you say? Now you know, and knowing's half the battle. And if you have that perspective like we're talking about you understand that this is also a good thing it means you're on the right path it means you're seeing a level of commitment and success and dedication that other people cannot relate to anymore and that means you're on the right fucking path right you're moving away from the mediocre average mentality into a more aggressive, ambitious success mentality. And, you know, eventually you're going to crack your way into
Starting point is 00:34:31 a network of people that are, that are also like that. And those people are not only going to be for you there for you socially, but you're going to do business with those people. You're gonna become friends with those people. They're going to be at your fucking kid's birthday, but they're also going to be at your fucking office and you're gonna make money together Things like that happen. It's not that's how it works. You know what I mean? Yeah, so you can't look at it as a bad thing I remember you telling the guy the other day that we were talking to that that feeling of loneliness that feeling of isolation is literally part of the process of Detaching from the common lot of people. Yeah like that's yeah, it's almost like you breaking out of the process of detaching from the common lot of people.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yeah. Like that's, it's almost like. It's you breaking out of the box. It's you separating yourself. Right. From the average crowd and literally becoming exceptional. Yes. And that's, and it feels lonely.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Because like, dude, your whole life, you're used to the same thing. You're used to, you know, hanging out with the same people, seeing the same people, doing the same things, going to birthday parties, Christmases, weekends off at the lake, going to the bars with your buddies, this, this, this, this, this, all of a sudden, this shit stops. Well, anytime you stop something you've been doing for fucking years, it's going to feel uncomfortable. You're going to go into withdrawal. You're literally going to go into withdrawal. Yeah, man. And that's just, you have to be prepared. You know, it's hard to prepare somebody for that, but at least now,. It's hard to prepare somebody for that.
Starting point is 00:35:45 But at least now if you're listening to this and you're going through that and you understand that that's just part of the deal. And it should be an indication that you are becoming more aware. And it should be an indication that you should be happy about. Let's not miss this because I think this is huge. I mean, laziness, mediocrity, complacency, they are like drugs. So when you stop taking those drugs, like I said, you will feel withdrawal. And it's like any addict that starts getting freedom, there's that period of just like fogginess and literal pain and feeling like you're empty inside. And then you get through it.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Well, you know what you feel? You feel like there's something wrong with you. Yeah, you feel like there's something wrong with you. Like you look at everybody else and you look how everybody else interacts. Like you'll go through this phase. You'll look at everybody else. You'll see how they interact. You'll see how they live.
Starting point is 00:36:37 You'll realize that the shit that they're doing means very little to you and you start second guessing yourself instead of second guessing them. And it's really, it really should be neither. You should just realize that they're staying where they are comfortable and you are moving on to a new phase. And it doesn't mean there's something wrong with them because if, if, you know, if they all thought like you, they'd be entrepreneurs too, which they aren't, you know what I mean? So you have to understand that it's a very specific thought process that you are advancing through that is ultimately going to help you get where you want to be. But it doesn't mean there's something wrong with those people. And it doesn't mean there's
Starting point is 00:37:20 something wrong with you. It just means you're different. And there's nothing wrong with that. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So you've talked a little bit in the past about your own struggles with depression kind of being down. I mean, I know there's, I think clinically there's a difference between just being discouraged because some things in your life aren't going well and being clinically depressed. But talk a little bit about how people need to deal with their feelings when it comes to they wake up and they just feel like they're sucking everything up. I think in a business sense, it's interesting to me. My personal experiences with people have been that when people are very successful, they always feel like they're not successful.
Starting point is 00:38:12 They always feel like they're not doing enough or haven't done enough or way far behind. And I feel like that is what drives their ambition and their hunger. And what causes them to get up every day is they feel like that. And on the flip side of that, I see a lot of fucking mediocre fucking dudes and girls who haven't done shit in their life in any way that think they're fucking killing it. And they feel great about themselves. They have great self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Right, which also drives their work ethic, which is why it's very little. Because when you're comfortable and you're not scared and you're not terrified, you don't fucking work. You know, you kick your feet up and enjoy life. And like I said, if you are one of these people, if you're listening to this, you're probably not. But if you're one of these people who's okay with that life, let them be. Let them be that way. Because, dude, they're fucking happy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Don't try to ruin somebody's happiness because you fucking think differently than they do you know they might try to ruin yours but remember you're more enlightened and more aware than they are so just let them fucking be you know what i mean you need some fucking employees right right yeah exactly it is funny how that works though like dude well it's my life like let me let me let me say this to be a successful employee you also have to have an entrepreneur mindset you just do so like i was i was saying that in jest so nobody that's listening to this as an employee there is no fucking shame in that either you need to be
Starting point is 00:39:36 fucking executing on a massive level because you'll become a high income earner without all the extra stress of going out and doing your own thing so like i say that as a joke so realize i was kidding when i said that tyler you were saying i was just saying it's it like you just said it applies to employees too 100 my last period is like i was it allowed me to breathe easier but i was like kind of depressed it's like fuck yeah it's gonna take a lot of work to get to the next level exactly right but i mean dude you know there's two kinds of people there's people that get pay raises and then they fucking shut down and get lazy and get comfortable and go back to living with their with their they go back to their old ways and with the with a little bit more fucking
Starting point is 00:40:16 dough and there's the people who think like you do and they're like fuck that i want way more than that dude i stopped going out right exactly like it took me like dude that's a winner's mindset you know what i mean and you know again it comes down to the standards that are set for society you know like when i when i was growing up through college and and uh high school and shit you know people were like oh man that dude's making 80 grand a year he's fucking killing it you know and like people are taught these standards of like they're they're most people if you ask them what they of like they're they're most people if you ask them what they would like to make they'll tell you 100 grand they'll say i want to make 100 grand 100 grand is shit if you want to make 100 grand you should be like trying to
Starting point is 00:40:55 make like 10 million for real because i'm gonna tell you right now your first 100 grand is the hardest fuck to make and second of all what you're going to find out is that you're going to spend it very fucking fast. So what I'm saying is the standard society puts on what quote unquote good money is, is, is very low. And so people set their goals low and then they achieve low, you know, but, um, getting back to the, the, the question about being depressed, um, it's a very inverse paradoxical weird thing that, you know, very successful people always feel negative about where they are. And then the people who, who aren't very successful, look at those people and think they're killing it. But then they also think they're killing it. You know what I mean? Like, it's just a weird, it's a weird thing. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:41 there's definitely a difference between feeling bad about what, you know, and not being frustrated or discouraged or angry about where you're at, which is a great thing. And being actually depressed, that's a, people don't understand that depression is an actual fucking disease. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:56 It's an affliction. And, uh, you know, I've dealt with it for 20 fucking years, but, um, and no amount of success fixes that. That's something
Starting point is 00:42:06 that you have to go get treated for. And by the way, if you're one of those people, there's no shame in that. You know, I'll tell you right now, that's something that I deal with on a daily basis and dealt with for a long time. Uh, and it is what it is. You know what I mean? You got, it's no different than having a fucking, uh, you know, you know, some other side of sort of affliction, you know, like, you know, eczema or fucking psoriasis or you've got, you know what I'm saying? Like cavities. Herpes? Yeah, herpes. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I mean, I'm just saying you've got to go get it fucking treated. You know, it's it's I think a big problem with depression is that a lot of people aren't willing to go fucking get treated for it. You know what I mean? And they think that they've got it under control, especially fucking type A entrepreneur people. They think that, like, they're in control of everything because you are in control of everything. And they think they can fix that. And, you know, it's a biochemistry fucking, you know, brain chemical issue that, you know, it would be no different than having a heart issue. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And you have to get it fixed. And that's why I made the distinction between depression and discouragement because I think you can be treated for depression. You can be on Welbutrin or whatever, Zoloft, and that doesn't mean you're not going to be discouraged. Exactly. You're not going to be pissed off about working. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Exactly. Or that you're just going to have bad days where you feel crappy. Exactly. So that is a great fucking delineation because just because you're clinically depressed or have depression doesn't mean you're still not going to be pissed off daily about being an entrepreneur because you are. And there's a big difference. Like,
Starting point is 00:43:35 dude, I feel fucking great about my depression, especially now for the last year because I'm gonna get my fitness in shape, uh, and taking care of those issues. Right. Right. Fitness is a huge fucking deal with that.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It'll fix a lot of things. But I feel great right now, but I'm still fucking pissed off about business. Yeah. And we're doing very well. Yeah. And I'm still pissed. But I think one of the things that I really want to get your feedback on is it seems like we are so emotion- in america to where like if you're just
Starting point is 00:44:07 having a crappy day or if you don't feel like things are going well well then it's okay oh dude yeah you know fuck yeah of course or that your emotions dude all these every motherfucker listening right now thinks that way they think that somehow their fucking emotions and how they feel and now they're sad or depressed or upset or angry or this or that somehow gives them a fucking reason not to do X, Y, and Z on a daily basis. Do you know how much fucking less success we would have as a company if I didn't do X, Y, and Z when I was pissed off? You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, I run this with my employees sometimes. Like, dude, we'll have employees that go off the fucking deep end performance-wise, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on with you?
Starting point is 00:44:49 And they're like, oh, well, I'm upset because I didn't get promoted. So wait, let me get this straight. So you're upset you didn't get fucking promoted, so now you're just going to do a shitty fucking job so you get fucking fired? It doesn't make fucking sense. Why would you not sack the fuck up and show your whole fucking company that that was a mistake promoting the other guy over you you know what i mean absolutely in my fucking 17 years of running a business i have never ever ever ever ever ever promoted someone and then thought i should have
Starting point is 00:45:24 promoted someone else because the people's nature is not that way. Their nature is to fucking go in a ball and pout like a little fucking girl and, and, and say, Oh, well, why didn't I get that? That's what fucking losers do, man. If you're a winner and you want the fucking job and you want the opportunity and you got to go out and fucking take initiative, which is a core value of our company and make it fucking happen on your own. You have to become so fucking good that it is impossible for the company to deny your progression. That is how you have to do this. And that is if you're an employee, how you should be looking at it, not looking at it like, oh,
Starting point is 00:46:01 poor me, I got fucking passed over. So I'm not going to try anymore. No, you should be looking at it like you're going to shove it up the motherfucker's ass who made that decision. And guess what? If you do that, you're going to get paid a lot of fucking money. That's how it works. And so, you know, but part of doing that is going to be you doing the things you need to do at a high level even when you're pissed off. Even when you're angry. Even when you're upset. And you've been talking a lot about those emotions that's a massive skill dude a massive massive massive trait slash skill of an entrepreneur is doing the things that need
Starting point is 00:46:36 to be done at a very fucking high level even when they don't feel like it right even when they're fucking their dog dies even when their fucking parents die. Even when they're sick. Even when they're in a car accident. They do not make fucking excuses no matter what. They own every fucking thing and they get every fucking thing done no matter what. No matter what. No matter what. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And you've been talking a lot about the anger, but you've also in the past mentioned tombstone days. Yeah. Which are not angry days. They're just days where you're like, man, I just want to quit. Yeah. Right? And so emotions are irrelevant. They are. They're irrelevant. They are irrelevant. And so many people, especially now with the delicate snowflake culture of fucking being in touch with all your fucking feelings feel that
Starting point is 00:47:25 their emotional state somehow dictates their actionable fucking tasks you know oh i don't i don't fucking feel good today so uh like dude that might have worked when you were in fucking grade school and you go to the nurse and get sent home, but that doesn't work in life. You know, like there is no fucking nurse in life that comes and says, Oh, here, let me have your fucking mom come get you. And we'll still, you know, you're still okay. You won't be okay. You know, but people do it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 They do it every day. We see it every day. You ask people why they aren't where they want to be. Oh dude, I've been depressed. Dude, I've been depressed for 20 fucking years. I built 150 fucking million dollar business. I take medication. I'm diagnosed depressed. Get it? It's not a fucking excuse. That's the money quote of the episode. What is? What you just said, I, you said, I've been, you said, I've been depressed for 17 years and built $150 million company. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Well, it's true. I had since, yeah. You know, but there's a lot of CEOs that are depressed. They just don't fucking talk about it. You know, it's, it has nothing to do. It has nothing to do with fucking, uh, you know, people, people see, I was saying this right now, and there's going to be people listening, and they're going to say, see, there's another fucking dude who makes a lot of money who's fucking unhappy.
Starting point is 00:48:52 You know what I'm saying? That's not the case. That is not the case. And it had nothing to do with what was going on with me. Nothing. Right. So, okay, in terms of entrepreneurial hell, we've talked about feelings of frustration, feelings of isolation or loneliness. You've talked about depression and discouragement.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Let's talk about the final thing that I would lump into the entrepreneurial hell, which is people's constant, chronic, almost obsessive-compulsive second-guessing and doubting that they made the right decision or they're going to do everything. I've been going through that bad. Yeah. Yeah, man. I've been trying to fucking figure out what color Lamborghini I want to order. I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:49:33 True story. Yeah. I'm like, Hey dude, render this up. This color, render this up. This color.
Starting point is 00:49:39 No darker windows. Yeah. So like, dude, I'm fucking second guessing myself big time, man. They need a decision today. Yeah. I got to tell them today, darker windows yeah so like dude i'm fucking second guessing myself big time man they need a decision today huh yeah i gotta tell them today but i mean no i mean all joking aside like that's natural you know the the thing that i think successful entrepreneurs do better than
Starting point is 00:49:58 people who aren't successful is that once they make a decision to commit to that decision you know what i mean they don't They leave the second guessing out of it until they're proven that maybe the other decision was the right decision. So, for example, you make a decision, you give it all you have, and it doesn't work out exactly the way you want, and you think, man, you know what? In hindsight, I would have done it this other way. And that's healthy. That's good. That means you learn.
Starting point is 00:50:23 But what's not healthy is doing it like this. Well, And that's healthy. That's good. That means you learn, but what's not healthy is doing it like this. Well, I don't know. Let's just try it. Let's, let's try this idea just a little bit. And like, let's, let's just try it a little bit and see if it works. Nothing that you try a little bit fucking works. Nothing, not a fucking diet, not a fitness program, not a career, not a business, not a relationship, nothing that you put a little bit or try a little bit at is going to produce the outcome you want. And that's where people get caught up in second guessing. They think that they can just try something a little bit, test it. And then, oh, you know, if it works, we'll fucking, we'll do it all the way. doesn't work the better ways is go all in take your fucking beatings if you're going to get beat and then learn the
Starting point is 00:51:09 lesson on the back side and then improve because then you know for sure because what second guessing begets more second guessing right so like if you don't commit and you don't know for sure let's say you got a and b and you do the the little try a little bit with b okay then you go down the road and then you're like fuck i don't think that's working let's go back to a and then you got a and b and you do the the little try a little bit with b okay then you go down the road and then you're like fuck i don't think that's working let's go back to a and then you try a little bit right and then you're like oh that's not working either maybe we should stick with b and you go back and forth back and forth back and forth and that's where people get caught up and the second guessing begets more second guessing and that's why they get like that so you know when you make a decision, fucking make the best decision.
Starting point is 00:51:46 People don't make the best decisions because they're afraid. They're so afraid of making the wrong decision. Again, like this whole fucking podcast. Making wrong decisions is part of being an entrepreneur. I've made a fucking ton of wrong decisions, man. A ton. Like I hired fucking tyler like this motherfucker like who the fuck will hire this guy you know then i fired him then i hired
Starting point is 00:52:12 him back stupid twice yeah dude i need one of those fucking helmets we were talking about but no but like what i'm saying you know it really is just a tip yeah dude jesus yeah you can't give him just a tip you got to give them the whole fucking shaft. You got to go all in. Yeah. You got to pound it out. Try just the tip. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah, if you try just the tip, it's no fun. You got to be committed. You can't make a baby with just the tip. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you can, but I'm sure there's dudes out there who are like, bullshit. Dude, but seriously though, you have to commit and and learn a lesson on the back side as opposed to like learning from just barely committing you know what i mean absolutely and that's that's what cures indecision is you understand that not only a it's a part of the
Starting point is 00:52:55 process but b you're going to learn something from whatever decision you make and just commit to it and then learn the lesson and fucking adjust. You know, it goes back to people thinking that entrepreneurship is some mapped out, perfect fucking plan. Right. Exactly. Yes. And it's not. And once, once you understand that it's not and accept it, you know, it's just like I was saying about getting your ass beat. You know, if you, if you accept that it's going to be rough and you're going to have to make weird decisions and shit's going to go wrong and all that, it becomes pretty easy to fucking deal with. But it's when you think that it should be smooth. And this, again, goes back to the internet fuck faces who do all this shit, right, and tell people it's fucking easy and people believe that shit.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And so then what they do is they go out and they try shit and it doesn't go smooth and they think there's something wrong with them. That's fucking terrible. Like from a moral standpoint. Like how many people have given up on their potential in themselves because they've heard from seven other fucking entrepreneurs that this shit is easy?
Starting point is 00:53:53 You know? Probably a lot. Yes, man. Yes, a lot. It's amazing to me how these principles apply to a lot of different areas of life. When I was a pastor, I used to run into, this happens with young people,
Starting point is 00:54:04 is that they want to know God's will, so they so they're so worried. I tell you guys will, and I'm not even fucking pastor. You know, I'm serious. Well, yeah, but let me make my point. Let me make my point. Okay. You know what God's will is for you to be as successful as fucking possible. If you were a fucking dad, Vaughn, do you want your kids to be as successful as possible? Absolutely. Why wouldn't you? Absolutely. to be as successful as possible? Absolutely. Why wouldn't you? Absolutely. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yeah. So if God is the father and he's looking over us, we have a moral obligation to make him happy. So go out and fucking be as successful as possible. Absolutely. I absolutely agree with that. All these fucking Bible thumpers that say otherwise, they're fucking wrong. Absolutely. God wants us to be happy.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I think when people, I think the way that people twist that is that they can do anything they want in the pursuit of happiness. That's where it gets wrong. What I was going to say, though, is that it's very common for somebody, some young Christian when they're in high school or college, to say, Oh, I just don't know if God wants me to be a fireman or a, or a, I don't know, an executive or something like that. And they think it's this very mechanistic, like there's this one thing that you have to do and don't make the wrong decision. That's what they're taught.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Right, right. And, and I love there's this great quote from a saint years back. He said, love God and do as you please. In other words, the main point,
Starting point is 00:55:22 God didn't want us to fucking do as we please. He wouldn't give us free will. Right, right. And the point, but the point is, is fucking do as we please. He wanted to give us free will. Right, right. And the point is, if you're loving God, we're given lots of free will. We're given lots of freedom to explore what we're meant to do in life. And I think the application here in entrepreneurialism is keep the principles sound. Do the right thing. Work hard.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Have a moral base. And beyond that, take a swing at a wild pitch, and if you screw it up, it's fine. Just adapt. Right. And just embrace the messiness. Embrace the evolution. Because there's no other way to do it. No, there isn't.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Literally. I think that's a great point, and I want to add to that. Like, dude, most people spend their whole entire life swinging at the wild pitches because there's glory in it. Right. There's a fucking glory in like, like they do, they do entrepreneur math. You know, entrepreneur math is that's like whenever you get it, your fucking iPhone calculator out and you're like, Oh dude, if I sell a thousand units of this at this much money, I'll have this much money. And then I can buy this, this and this. Like that's what they fucking think. And they're always swinging for these big fucking swings and and they spend their whole life
Starting point is 00:56:28 swinging at the wild pitch because that's what they see other people doing they see other people who are lying telling them that they hit the wild pitch for a 700 foot fucking home run when in reality those motherfuckers didn't even get in the fucking batter's box you see what i mean like dude you can't have you can't have it all today it's got to be built man it's got to be built and i was thinking about this on the drive in man like today this morning like i don't very often reflect back on like our our history but like me and chris been doing this for a long fucking time like a long time like it doesn't it doesn't feel long but man when i like go back and like count the years and my fuck 18 years 18 years that's a long fucking time man it is that's almost as old as i
Starting point is 00:57:10 was when i started the company like my whole entire life before that that's that length you know what i mean i spent i've spent almost almost an equal amount of time in my life in business as out of business in In this business. That's a weird fucking thought. It is. But you have to understand that when you're building something, no matter if it's your body or your business or a career or whatever, that shit all takes time, man. You know, like it is going to take you years. It's going to take you years to perfect
Starting point is 00:57:46 the physique you want. It's going to take you years to perfect your career or your business. And I feel like the instant gratification that our world, you know, like, dude, you want a real world example of instant gratification and what, how people think go to the fucking gym on Monday, on Monday afternoon at fucking four o'clock or five o'clock go again on wednesday at four o'clock or five o'clock and go again on friday at four or five you'll see you'll see what you'll see who thinks like fucking instant gratification who doesn't for real and most of the people that are in there on friday at five o'clock are the same motherfuckers that are making a lot of money yeah think about that yeah because they understand something that most people don't
Starting point is 00:58:26 is that shit doesn't come overnight and quit expecting it overnight Andy for me what it comes down to is whether people are struggling with like depression, discouragement you know feelings of isolation second guessing themselves I feel like no matter what it is
Starting point is 00:58:41 or if it's the guy that posted about wanting the secret sauce, it all comes down to this. Everyone finds an excuse not to act. And what I think the overall message of this podcast, and really in some ways, every podcast we've ever, we've ever published is you have to trust the action. You have to do the work. You have to trust the action.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You gotta have faith. There will be, there will be results. Like we talk, like we talk about, uh, in, in the, the, the luck versus faith or, you know, faith and belief, you know, you, you have to do some work not knowing if it's going to pay off and you have to be willing to do that. And that requires faith. And when you do that work for a little bit of time, you're going to get a little bit of result. And then you're going to have a little belief and you're going to repeat that process. You're going to do a little more work. You're going to get a little more result. You're going to get a little bit of result. And then you're going to have a little belief and you're going to repeat that process. You're going to do a little more work. You're going to get a little more result. You're going to get a little more belief, you know, until eventually you completely understand that if you do the work, that the
Starting point is 00:59:34 result will 1000% be there. And that's when your belief becomes fucking, it becomes galvanized where you just know that you could get wherever you want to go. That's like when people say, oh, you're really trying to build a billion dollar company? Well, people laughed at me too when I told them I wanted to build a million dollar company. Right. And then a $10 million company. And then a 20. And then a 30. And then a 50.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Your little vitamin shop? Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. No, I know. So, like, I don't have doubts about that. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Like, when I say that, I'm saying that with absolute fucking certainty. Because you've set a pattern of achievement that you could look at. I just know that. And that fuels your confidence. No, like, even like we said on the last point, my emotional state, if I'm depressed, if I have this issue or that issue or this or that or this happens, it doesn't matter. Because I know the recipe. The recipe is do your fucking five critical tasks like episode 107 and do them every fucking day. And if you do them every fucking day, you're gonna fucking win. That's it. A plus B equals C. And I know it's a math. I know it's a situation. Success is math. And I know that I
Starting point is 01:00:40 trust that and believe that a hundred percent. So I don't have fucking doubts. So it doesn't matter what mood I'm in or what, you know, where I live or what the fuck happens externally. As long as I do my shit, shit's going to happen. And that's what people need to start, you know, trying to grasp. And it takes time to grasp that and believe that. But I'm telling you, as somebody who's been on both sides of the fucking mountain, you know, when you're in the beginning and you're looking up that fucking mountain and you have the dude at the top, you're like, come on. One step in front of the other,
Starting point is 01:01:08 you're like, fuck that guy. You know what I mean? That's a fucking big mountain. But eventually you'll be the guy on the other side telling the people to come on up. It isn't that big of a deal. It's very simple. It's just hard.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Okay, so. With that being said, I want to also remind people people if you have topic discussion question questions or question questions plural at the mfco.com i'll have that email your questions slash topic ideas because i i really want some i really want to give you guys what the fuck you want like i don't want to be missing the target. I want you guys to learn from this. I want you guys to progress from this. So answer, ask your fucking questions. If they're stupid, I just call you stupid. I'm just kidding. It's that old saying, there are no stupid questions. We'll just call you stupid when
Starting point is 01:01:58 the mics are off. Exactly. All right. So guys, if you're going through hell, here's your prescription to make it through. Now for real guys, if you have going through hell, here's your prescription to make it through hell. Now, for real, guys, if you have real questions, we're not going to call you stupid. Like, I'm joking. I will. Yeah. Okay, because I'm the mean one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 All right. So if you feel crappy, if you're experiencing frustration, just remember, it means you're attempting something great. If you feel alone, it's because you're in the process of becoming exceptional. If you are paralyzed by second-guessing yourself, you have a fundamentally messed-up understanding of the process of success. It's messy. That is not what the notes say. The notes clearly says fucked up. You said messed up.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I did. I said messed up. He typed the notes, didn't he? Thanks for providing. Vaughn did type the notes. There's no difference in typing it and saying it. Oh, there's Vaughn. Hey, I'm There's no difference in typing it and saying it. Oh, there's the Vaughn. Hey, I'm just writing down what my boss wants to read, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:50 And then if you're depressed, you need to know that your feelings are irrelevant to success. I like it. That's key. Yep. That's key. Hey, guys. Tyler, tell them a little bit more about the episodes on YouTube, because we haven't really promoted that too much. No, I mean, it's just we're uploading full episodes now we're now shooting with multiple cameras uploading the episodes on
Starting point is 01:03:11 YouTube 100% full episodes so if you guys want to watch it because I'm so fucking good looking feel free yeah and those also include the little clips that Andy puts on his Instagram too so it's just another way to yeah you know actually there's Actually, there's a lot of clips I don't post on Instagram on YouTube. Right. Yeah. So yeah, guys, as always, we don't ask for a fee. We don't ask for anything. Just ask for you to refer a like-minded friend.
Starting point is 01:03:36 This is a community. This is a movement. This is an against the grain, no fucking bullshit movement. And if you're sick of the fucking delicate snowflake, everybody wins, everybody gets a trophy, everybody's special, and if my feelings are hurt, I shouldn't fucking do this and this and that, all this pussy shit that society's become,
Starting point is 01:03:57 please bring your fucking peeps to us because this is where those peeps are still welcome. Right. Check out the website, themfceo.com. And for those of you who are new, we've got the long game going on here at the MFCEO Project. We are wanting to shape a whole new generation. So Andy wrote a children's book.
Starting point is 01:04:16 The second children's book will be out in a couple months. But the first one is Charlie the Bulldog's Fantastic Fruit Stand. Go to otisandcharlie. C-H-A-R-L-E-Y.com to pick up a copy of the book and give it to the young person in your life that you want to grow up to be another MFCEO. Yeah, if you don't want them growing up to be a bitch, buy them the fucking kid's book.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Yeah. That's true. You can also just go to Amazon.com and type in Andy Frisella. Yeah. So, Thursday Thunder coming up this week, and we'll talk to you guys soon. See you.
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