REAL AF with Andy Frisella - What Does It Really Mean To Be Woke?, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO315

Episode Date: September 25, 2019

Are you "woke?" That's a phrase that's thrown around a lot these days. Sometimes it's used in politics to talk about people who say they really care about racism & injustice & sometimes it's used for dudes who think they've uncovered a worldwide conspiracy that nobody else knows about! But what does it really mean to be "woke," to have your eyes opened to what life is all about & what it takes to be happy & successful?

I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon. Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me, gotta lose. What is up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy. I'm your host, and I am the motherfucking CEO. Guys, today we got a full podcast ready for your enjoyment. But before I get into that, I'd like to remind you that we do have a fee for this podcast. The fee is this. If you like it, share it. If you get value out of it, share it.

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it's a when. When they get value out of this podcast. That's the truth, man. They need to share it. You know? Yeah. I mean, you're rubbing off on me a little bit, you know? Yeah. That cockiness and everything? That's the truth, man. They need to share it. You know? Yeah. I mean, you're rubbing off

on me a little bit, you know? Yeah. That cockiness and everything? Oh, that's just confidence, bro. Yeah. Backed by action. You know? How dare you?

How dare you? How dare you mock my cockiness? You're taking away my opportunity to be cocky by making fun of me ahead of time. How dare you? You've robbed me

of my download numbers. You've robbed me of my my podcast swagger. You should be ashamed. I do wonder how many people know what we're alluding to.

Fucking everybody on the internet that's for sure. I gotta say I was a little out of it. Somebody shared it with me and i was like what is going on it's the most ridiculous shit i've ever fucking seen yeah like i don't normally talk politics or whatever but let's be fucking real hiring a fucking 12 year old girl where the fuck she is who's who's 16 who's clearly an actress clearly an actress to get up there and pander for your political views as an adult.

It's pretty fucking low. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, yeah, that's just a new like like I'm not even. This is not me being favored towards a party or not like the political game as a whole has become a fucking it's become a total shit show yeah on both sides on all sides at all it's just a fucking it's not it's not even real shit anymore it's like what can we do that's more outrage? This is society now. What can we do that's more outrageous and more out there and more ridiculous to get people to talk?

What can we do? Dude, I ran across a fucking influencer, quote unquote, influencer last night. Like, every photo of this chick has part of her nipple showing. Like, that's her thing. Like, her nipple's, like, sticking out. And out and it's just like dude what are we getting to you know I'm saying like where are we going like we're willing to do literally anything to get fucking attention you know as a society and then you look around and wonder why society's so fucked up. You know, you have grown adults making sex tapes on purpose and making them leak on purpose, them sucking someone's dick on a video on purpose so that

people can become more famous. Like it's just, it's like, and then you're surprised that we have the fucking problems that we have. Like, dude dude you motherfuckers out there right now listening need to realize this is this is our fault you know we have it's just disgusting to me at this point like it's just disgusting like what is next like every fucking person on the internet it's like what can i do to make people talk? And it, it starts from fucking young kids all the way to the fucking top of the world's strongest leaders. It's like, we've opened this box of zero content, zero substance, all flash, no fucking gas. You know what I'm saying?

And it's just, it's absurd. Like, it's absurd. Like, and then people have asked me, well, why don't you have kids yet? Well, I think it's pretty fucking obvious why I don't have fucking kids. Because I don't want to have to explain to them why every single fucking person on the internet

has their dick or their pussy or their ass or their tits hanging out. I don't want to explain to them why people shoot up fucking schools. I don't want to explain to them why grown adults hire young kids to, to pander their causes to get attention. I don't want to explain to them all this shit. I don't want to explain to them how there's 70,000 different genders now when I grew up with fucking man and woman. I don't want to explain to them. You know what I'm saying?

Like, dude, I've done enough work in my life. Like, I'm not ready to do all that extra work. You know? Yeah. We're bringing people into this world who are fucking... Dude, I feel bad for them. Like, what are they going to have to look to? What are they going to have to look to what are they going to have to you know what i'm saying like where are we going i absolutely

get what you're saying and what one of the things that i think makes it even more demoralizing is that in addressing all of those issues almost every single issue that you ever that you just mentioned when good people when people of goodwill who are not haters who are not out trying to hurt anybody start raising very legitimate questions you're immediately silenced you're like oh you're triggering me or oh you're being offensive or oh you're a hater missouri you're redneck from missouri you're a redneck from missouri it doesn't understand anything no motherfucker i know for sure that if i had two little girls or three like you do or like my brother does then i wouldn't want to explain to them why people that they fucking see on the

internet are with their with their fucking nipples out all the time and shit like dude like i'm not saying i don't like nipples i fucking love. But that ain't for everybody to fucking see. You know what I'm saying? Right. People right now are like, come on, Andy, you're fucking up the front. Yeah. You know why? Because I'm sick of seeing it, dude.

Yeah. Like, dudes are going to be jacking off to fucking, like, Bugs Bunny and shit eventually because they're so desensitized to, like, skin now. It's like. Absolutely. What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. like skin now it's like absolutely what the fuck you know what i'm saying absolutely like i shouldn't be able to fucking open up my phone and see 70 fucking percent of the posts

some sort of like bragging you know what i'm saying like no i totally agree with you man and i one of the greatest things on the planet was the invention of the mute function on Instagram. And I'm just going to tell you people, I follow a lot of people. And if you start to pretty much post nothing but half-naked pictures and just stupid stuff. And by the way, that includes dudes, too. I followed this dude. He was constantly posting pictures of himself bare-chested. I was like is like dude i don't want to see that let me let me guess he probably made his own supplement brand now too yeah right um dude that's what's great about mute because you can

continue to follow lies no i get it fucking lies now i get it so over it you know who the fuck are you what are you guys trying to do right you know what i mean like dude we've sit here fucking literally giving away how to build a real company for the last five years on this podcast how to build a real company and still people they'd rather become some sort of you know dude people are just gonna going to get what they fucking, they're going to reap the seeds they sow. Right. You know what I'm saying? And that's, it's just, I see it, you see it, the world, a lot of people see it, but a lot of these younger motherfuckers, they don't get it.

Yeah. You know, and they're going to be, especially in business, you know, these kids who have figured out how to, you know, hack the system on, let's say some sort of online marketing. Right. And then they're constantly filling it back with a new product, a new product, new product. Yeah, bro. You went out and bought a Huracan. You stood in front of it and fucking, and you're a baller. Cool. Right. What now? What the fuck now? That old saying, easy come, easy go. That's right. That's, that's not different today. It's not, it's, I don't think people realize that there are, easy come, easy go. That's right. That's not different today. No, it's not. It's not.

I don't think people realize that there are, you know, in the last 20 years, there are professional athletes who have made enormous amounts of money, money we cannot even imagine, and they blow through it. Bone, you know how many motherfuckers out there, and this is not an exaggeration either, who are in the entrepreneurial space that I know, and I know well enough to have regular conversations with, that have asked me for money, and I know well enough to have regular conversations with, that have asked me for money, and they're out there fronting like they're fucking balling. Right.

I'm talking about people that people know have been like, hey, bro, I need a loan, or hey, I need this. And you know what? No disrespect to anybody who's asked me that, because, dude, I appreciate the fact that you trusted me enough to do that, and I would never violate that trust. But people that are fucking out fronting and then asking for a loan on the back end from, you know what I'm saying? Like there's something wrong with that.

Yeah. Like you got to get your priorities straight, you know. And it's just, dude, all it is is these young guys getting caught up. Young guys and girls getting caught up because for guys it's more like the material shit shit, right? And dude, I contribute to this too because I show my shit. But the truth is I earned my shit. I fucking, dude, I've got hundreds of people around me that make great livings because of shit that I endured for years when nobody was fucking around. I'll drive whatever the fuck I want. I'll say whatever the fuck I want and I'll do whatever the fuck I want and you know what if you don't like it you don't have to follow me but the truth is is if you're fucking 20 in your 20s and you're trying to hang with somebody who's my age or somebody you know

who's been doing a real company bro you're gonna go broke trying to fucking impress somebody and it's not worth it absolutely you know and these girls who are dude i got a friend who's who's got a little sister who's 17 years old and i see her little sister online with her fucking boobies hanging out you know i'm saying and her fucking her swimming suit pulled up her and i'm just like where the fuck is society going bro you know what i'm saying like i'm just so it's it's so ridiculous it is and like people you know people think oh dude what are you hating on like if i say right now people are saying oh well you're just hating on women's body no i'm not i fucking love women's bodies it's awesome i just think there's a place for it right you know what i'm saying no you're right and and

but see i don't think people should run run out there. I feel like people are out there doing shit to throw their fucking viewpoint in your face and then try to get you to say something in response so they can attack you. Right. Right? Oh, you don't like that I fucking show my nipples on Instagram? Don't follow me. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Look, one day you're going to have to explain that shit to someone right you

know what i'm saying right one day you're gonna have to explain why mom did this or why dad did this like this shit doesn't even cross these motherfuckers minds right you know what i mean but that's a that's a perfect example because the minute you raise a question like you know you might listen i'm not judging you i'm just oh yes you are you might want to consider not wearing you know a piece of floss yeah you know right and immediately it becomes you're judging me your body's shaming me no i'm not i'm just raising the question i'm just saying dude like i roll into a fucking strip club i expect that shit i'm paying customer i'm the same way with church yeah okay but you know what i'm saying like dude i get it yeah but like what are we what are we doing yeah there's no context people don't have

well it's it's the same people that don't like here's i think this is related it's people who don't have the common sense to know that when they ask you to come speak to some because you've done this before you've spoken to like junior high football teams and stuff like that it's the people that think that they need to tell you oh can you watch the language no shit no kidding yeah like no kidding no are they they treat me like i'm some neanderthal dumbass right that's not aware of that but it's the it's that same kind of mentality fucking email emily and say what's it like not aware of that. But it's that same kind of mentality. Dude, you say motherfuckers fucking email Emily and say, what's it like living with Andy? I bet it's really motivating.

Like, what do you fucking think, dude? I stand on my kitchen counter and fucking, come on, baby, you can fucking do it. 100 to zero. Yeah, like, dude, what the fuck are you guys thinking? Cook those burgers. Dude, yeah, for real, though. Cook for blood. But, dude, like, it's just so absurd. thinking like cook those burgers dude i yeah for real though i'm just saying blood but dude

like it's just so it's just so absurd no you know and then you have like this is gonna make some people mad but it's the truth you got these fucking women who think that they're so fucking smart because they're hot they think they're outsmarting all these dudes right you know and they think they're gonna like get all these dudes to pay their bills and shit. And, you know, that might work for right now. But what happens when you're fucking 40 and there's 25 year olds? Guess what?

You're off the fucking roster and they're in. You're out. Now what? Right. You know, and those people don't think that shit's ever going to happen to them. And every dude out there that does that shit that the girls think they're fucking outsmarting them when in reality the guy is the one that's that's that's the smart one right well i'll take that a step further man what if what if they are successful what if they get to be 50 and 60 and that system still works

for them you gotta ask yourself if i know that this dude is literally just with me because of my physical appearance, am I really going to be happy? Like, am I going to, if I just have this system that's based on my appearance and based on whatever I give him, and it's this sort of contractual thing, and it's not really based on love or friendship or mutual appreciation, am I really going to be happy? People just don't understand. They don't understand the shortcuts are not going to give them long-term happiness it's that's just not and that's that's what our whole our whole culture is like that shortcut shortcut shortcut i want i want fame i want to i don't want to do anything i just want to act crazy i want to make my own rules and if i get i've been around short term results some high fucking follower instagram and YouTube folks, dude, their whole day is geared around how many likes, how many views, how many comments they're going to get on their content.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. And it's just, it's become an obsession. It's become, like, that is not life. I'm sorry. It's just not. Like, people get mad and they're

like oh andy why don't you put out more content well i'm i'm pretty sure i put out a lot of fucking content that's free i don't really feel but you're not obsessive with the way that people are i i don't you're speaking my language i i haven't i hardly ever feel the need to do that you know why because i actually own a real company so it doesn't really matter yeah you know and that's another value of doing something real yeah i don't even know where i'm going with all this to be honest well actually i had a thought i wanted to just you know you early on yeah obviously we were poking fun at that uh i don't even know what her name is greta thumber now you're gonna make fun of a 16 year old girl you're fucking right i am no but we were talking about that and that disraised more so i make fun of her parents for allowing that to be there you know i i actually feel very strongly

as a parent um because my you know my wife and i we're strong catholics and we're pro-life but i actually have a i have a i have kind of a hesitation about ever bringing my girls to those kinds of things because they're they don't know that's not what they believe they're too young so in other words i'm not gonna like I'm not going to just co-opt my kids to whatever political rally I'm coming to, because that's what I believe. Because I think that's using your kids. It is.

That's what I think these people did, is they used this little 16-year-old girl for their own political purposes. Because she doesn't know. I don't care how smart she is. She doesn't know. She hasn't lived long enough to really understand all the issues and consider all the different sides. I just don't believe it.

So they used her. But anyway, regardless, what I was going to – you posted about this a couple days ago. It got me thinking about this term woke. You know, we're woke. Oh, yeah. And here's what I – You ever notice the wokest motherfuckers that are woke are the ones we're talking about here, too. Right, right, right. They're woke, and about here, too. Right, right, right.

They're woke, and we're fucking sleeping. Well, yeah, exactly. Well, the main issue that I have with it is the primary way that that's used is usually when somebody says you're woke, it means that you suddenly open your eyes to the seriousness of racism and inequality and injustice. And I got to say, in this case, I am personally offended by that because I actually think I do care about those things. But when somebody says they're woke, what that really means is you suddenly bought

into all the far left politically correct solutions to those things. Right, you're only woke if you're- You're only woke if you actually agree with our solutions. That's right. And that's the problem. So I thought- That's what I was saying, dude. I was saying that people are only woke if you actually agree with our solutions. That's right. And that's the problem. That's what I was saying, dude.

I was saying that people are only woke to the amount to where their wokeness aligns with their idea of what they think the world should be. Right. And if it's not that, then you're asleep. Yeah. You're fucking cheap. You're fucking, motherfucker. These people have no fucking clue dude most of these people haven't done a goddamn thing i know you hate that term but that's the fucking truth i hear you they haven't done

shit okay yep and they're out there fucking giving their life advice and their belief advice with no fucking evidence to back it up other than I got some likes on my fucking Instagram. Right. With my boobies. Right. You know what I'm saying? No, I agree. Dude, if I had fucking big titties and a big ass, you know how many fucking followers I have on Instagram?

I'd have fucking all of them. Right. It's the truth. No, that's true. It is true. So I thought maybe it would be fun to talk about, like, what does it mean to be woke according to the mfco project and i honestly the very first thing i thought because to me when you think of you know woke you're you know you're waking it up you're you're well if we really want to talk about what woke is woke is understanding being a realist versus living in

an idealist situation like waking up from a dream world. Yes. Right. Like, that's woke. But most people that fucking use the term are avoiding dealing with reality, and they're saying that we're not woke because we're not buying into the idealist shit that doesn't even exist. Right. I mean, sure, it's easy to say, oh, all this thing should be this way. There should be no racism there should be

no fucking gender uh uh dysmorphia yeah dysmorphia or fucking discrimination there should be no hate there but there is so what the fuck we gonna do about it right you know what i'm saying like what's the actual solution dude and the solutions that are being presented are so fucking absurd that it's like okay well you're not even you're not even in reality you know what I mean so what's disappointing to me is that we as a people as a society are more concerned with having our opinion be right than we're concerned with actually solving the problem. And that comes from social media. We put out an idea on social media. We want it to be polarizing. We want it to, because we know that if it's polarizing, guess what we get? We get

eyeballs. We get traffic. We get buzz, which is ultimately self-serving, which means I can sell shit. It means I get paid more to sell more fucking teeth whitening, right? That's what this is about. It's about money and people are so fucking stupid. They can't even understand it. Like, dude, we're not going to fix any of the problems in this fucking country or in this world until people stop doing shit that is completely self-serving right right so how is that gonna happen now how's it gonna happen uh i know how it's gonna happen you're gonna have to fucking take care of your own fucking shit on a daily basis but people don't want to do that they want to say they want to pick up their phone because they're told by all the experts pick up your phone and say some shit into your phone

you know what there's some shit you probably shouldn't say into your fucking phone not because it doesn't get likes or views or fucking comments but because it's wrong you know what I'm saying absolutely it's just wrong like people forget like for me I've been trying to not use as much language and sometimes I fail at that because dude that's who I am it's how I speak right but I've been trying to improve on that because I know there's kids that are 11, 12, 13 watching me who are going to say, that's how you need to talk to be successful, which is completely wrong. Okay. And I feel guilty about that. But like, dude, in a big scheme of things, that's such a little thing compared to the other shit that I'm talking about. Like if I'm stressing over how many times I say the word fuck in front of a 12-year-old kid

versus, like, teaching them that they got to, like, go out and sell their bodies to fucking make something of themselves or if you're not good-looking or if you're not this, you're nothing. You know what I mean? Oh, absolutely. That's what's going on here. And it's gotten to the point where it's just absurd you know and i don't know why i'm going off on all this shit but i think it's that video that chick like no like dude i'm watching this video

and i'm seeing an actress you know what i'm saying yeah like an actress reading up like when i first watched it i thought it it, I thought it was somebody reading for a part. Well, go watch the video again. Go watch it again. This looks like somebody auditioning for a fucking part in Romeo and Juliet. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I mean, fuck, she's good. She's got a future in that shit. I'm not kidding. No, yeah. I'm being serious. That girl, I don't know her name. Don't care, but she's got a future in acting. That was great. But I'm just saying the point of the point of it, you know, is there a real problem? Fuck? I don't know. There probably is. It's probably bad

that we're, we're, everybody drives a fucking car. It's probably bad that we're we're everybody drives a fucking car it's probably bad that there's pollution and all these things i'm sure there's a real problem here but the problem that we really have is that you're making it so ridiculous that the people who can actually solve it won't even pay attention because you're making it a fucking joke right you see what i'm saying no absolutely and i actually think one of the biggest issues is that like dude it's hard i'm sorry to interrupt no no you're good it's hard to take someone serious when they're dressed up like a motherfucking clown and they've got their entire family dressed up like a fucking clown it's some sort of fucking parade it's hard to listen to that

shit it's hard you can't take that shit serious. Like, dude, is there a problem between the races? Fuck yes, there's a problem. How do we fix that? We don't fix it by standing up for our fucking power and making it. Dude, the media is taking things, and people are taking things things and they're making the walls bigger not smaller which is what we need there's no real dialect happening there's no real fucking uh sorry dialogue happening you know what i mean it's just it's bullshit how did you build your

company one fucking customer at a time one person at a time how sexy is that it's terrible but it's the only way so how do you change society one person at a time and all these movements but the problem vaughn is the problem is people will not fucking listen they don't listen how many people do you know that don't agree with you politically okay could you have a real conversation with back and forth? You know, I don't know. I mean, I've done a pretty good job editing my, I'm now around people that even when they disagree with me, they're usually quality people who can have some good conversations. Okay. But on balance, like I'm hardly ever on Facebook.

And when I am on Facebook, it's just to say stupid, funny stuff. I know one person. I know one person I know one person I know lots of people that don't agree with how I see things politically okay lots I know one person I can have a real conversation with that actually is

more rooted in the other way you know what I mean? One that's not a knock on them that's a knock on the way we communicate as humans you know what I'm saying? Because they're saying the same shit. I see these fucking, because dude, I'm like middle of the road, dude. Right?

Like, I don't give a fuck about social stuff. I care about the economy. So like, dude, go out there fucking, if you're gay, be gay. If you're whatever, be whatever. Everybody should be equal. I totally agree with all that shit. A hundred million percent. But I want the economy to work.

I don't agree with giving shit out to everybody and spreading the wealth. That's bullshit. It's never going to work. It's going to destroy the economy. And not only is it never going to work, it never has worked. That's what I'm saying. It's,

but do you know what? You can't have that conversation with people because their will to be right exceeds their will to fix the problem. And that's the problem. Do you know what's funny about what we're talking about? This is supposed to be a business podcast. There's probably a lot of people thinking right now, this is supposed to be an entrepreneur podcast. I'm listening to idiots talk about politics. They don't know shit.

You're right. Maybe They don't know shit. You're right. Maybe we don't know shit, but I'll tell you this. Thinking you know everything is what will kill you in business too. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And we got a big fucking problem with it here in this country. Big. Absolutely.

Like people on the fucking coast think that everybody in the Midwest is some fucking gun-toting, mass-murder fucking gun freak who wants to like, you know, you don't need AR-15s for hunting. No fucking shit you don't. That's not the purpose. The purpose of fucking the Second Amendment is to fucking protect the people from a government. Like, the truth is, the way the fucking thing was written, we should be able to buy fucking tanks and aircraft carriers and all this other shit too. So the point, the point of having an AR-15 is almost pointless because the whole second amendment has been shit on already. So people are just fucking, but they're absurd about it. You know, we're going to fucking come and take your shit where the fuck do you live like how are you going to do that the people

who are tasked with taking the shit believe in keeping their own shit you know what I'm saying like it's just an absurd argument that we're like hearing all these fucking ridiculous things like they're already they're not even possible you know what I mean yep like dude do I believe there should be stricter regulations? Fucking right there should be. I shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store in fucking Missouri and walk out with a fucking 30-round magazine, high capacity, today. And I can do that.

I should not be able to do that. It should be at least as hard as getting a driver's license. You know what I'm saying? Right. There should be some shit that goes into getting one. But you should still be able to get the shit. That's the truth. Okay?

Now, do we have a problem? For sure we have a problem. Why are all these shootings happening? Why are they happening? People refuse to take responsibility for what the real reason is because if you take the guns away, it ain't going to be shooting. It's going to be stabbing. You take the knives away, it's going to be fucking driving people over with the car.

Take the cars away, it's going to be bombs. Take the bombs away. So what's the real problem here? The real problem here is that we've got a fucking culture problem at the core of America that is not getting resolved in any way because every motherfucker that's trying to resolve it is doing so with the idea that they are going to get something out of it. They want to be the person who passed gun reform. They want to be the person who created this amazing fucking law that fucking did this. It's not about what's best for the country anymore.

It's about what's best for the individual on their fucking social media. And that ain't right. A hundred percent. I think the whole gun issue and really every issue in America, people are trying to address the symptoms rather than the root cause. And you just, you just said it. It's a cultural thing.

Guns are not the problem. The culture, the reality is, is guns have always been this available. They've always been this way. More available. Do you know that I grew up with people who, like the adults in my, like when I was a little kid in Kansas, the adults used to tell me stories of taking their rifles to school.

Bro. Like they used to do it all the time, and people never got shot. The issue is not the guns. The issue is what has happened in America that we've had a cultural breakdown in what's right and wrong. I'll tell you what it is. Decency. Here's what it is. You agree?

Fucking right. Yeah. We got kids now who grew up for fucking 12 years or eight years believing that everybody's going to win. We have an entire generation of people that actually believe that. We have an entire generation of people that actually believe that we have an entire generation of people that believe that the world is a fair place we have an entire generation of people that believe they deserve to have a fucking mcmansion we have an entire generation of people that think they deserve to make a hundred thousand dollars a year out of fucking college or high school i'm

not saying you can't but you don't deserve it right we got an entire generation that believes all this shit who has taught all this shit from the time they were fucking eight years old till the time they were fucking 16 or 18 and you slide that scale plus or minus two years okay all those people are now fucking 21 22 23 24 okay now they're getting a taste of the real fucking world, which is fuck you. I'm going to win and you're going to fucking lose. And that's reality. Okay. The nature of fucking world is if you're good, you win. If you're bad, you won't. That's the truth. So now we have a situation where because of selfish gain and because of popularity, we have a situation where people

are completely misinformed about the way the world works because all these people that taught them this shit wanted to beat their chest about how great they are. Look at me. I'm so progressive. I'm such a good person. I'm teaching my kids the right shit. Yeah, you're teaching your kids the idealistic way the world should be. But the truth is your job is not to teach them the way the world should be. Your job is to teach them the way the world can be and to teach them the world the way it is and then teaching them how to reform it. That's what should have been fucking taught. And so now we have a situation where these motherfuckers, they come out of high school, they come out of college, they got a hundred grand in debt. They got jobs to pay $36,000 a year and they fucking see no hope, no future.

They get bullied, which, you know, fuck dude, when I was a kid, I got bullied my whole life. You know what I learned to do? Punch motherfucker in the fucking mouth. Can't do that anymore. Otherwise you go to fucking jail. Okay. So we got this fucking idealistic fucking culture clashing with the reality of real world and people are coming out and they're extremely desperate because they can't pay their fucking

bills dude they have no future they realize that the world sucks and they're like fuck dude if i was 22 years old right now i I'd be so motherfucking pissed off at my parents for what they fucking taught me. It'd be insane because their parents fucked it up. And those are the same. And now they're like, oh, I don't know why they turned out that way. They turned out that way because that's what you fucking tolerated. That's what you taught.

And there's no accountability for this. No one's coming out saying, hey, you know what? We made a fucking mistake. Which you did. Add another layer onto that. Not only do they come out and they get a shock to their system because they realize that the world is not a playground, but they've always been taught that they're special and they're great and they don't have to do anything about it. And deep inside they know, I don't really feel good about myself. So it's not my fault. It must be your fault or his fault,

or it must be because I'm being oppressed for being, you know, fill in the blank instead of being taught, listen, you do have intrinsic value before God, but if you want to feel good about yourself, you got to do something. You got to do something. Dude, you got to be a contributing member of society. You've got to fucking earn self-esteem. You've got to earn confidence. You've got to earn self-belief. You've got to earn happiness. Just like you would earn a good body. Just like you would earn a good income. Just like you would earn a great relationship, which by the way, you have to fucking earn motherfuckers. You aren't entitled to a good relationship. If you're a piece of shit, you're going to attract a piece of shit.

I just did a whole story on this, my Instagram about this yesterday. Everybody's talking about how everybody else is a hater. Motherfucker, if you're surrounded by all these people that hate on you, it's because you're a hater. It's because you're the friend who's telling people, oh, just have that one drink. It's not a big deal. You know what? Just skip that one workout. It's not a big deal. You know, fuck work, dude.

Call in sick. You think you're being a great friend. You're actually being a hater because you got this other person that you're supposed to care about. And you're putting your fucking wants you want them to drink with you you want them to go to the restaurant with you you want them to call in sick to work you're putting again your fucking selfish desires ahead of someone else who's trying to better themselves and then you have the nerve to say everybody hates on you. You're the motherfucking anchor. You know what I'm saying?

Dude, it's brilliant. No, I hear it. The truth of the matter is, and this is the fucking truth, nobody fucking cares. Nobody gives a fuck what triggers your anxiety. Nobody gives a fuck what triggers you emotionally. No one cares how much money you make or don't make. You have to care. No one cares what kind of shape you're in. You have to care. And dude, all these motherfuckers out there, they do, they got a completely backwards. You know,

they think, oh dude, well, my parents told me I should always love myself. No, you shouldn't always love yourself. If you're doing things that you know aren't in line with what the fuck you're supposed to do, then guess what? You shouldn't love yourself. That's the truth. Absolutely right. There ain't nobody fucking saying that shit because everybody's too scared to say it. It's the truth.

The truth is when you look in the mirror and you see a fat motherfucker, it's time to go on a diet. It's not time to cry about self fucking acceptance on Instagram and get applause in the cop. Ain't gonna change your life, right? You know what? I've been fucking fat. No one fucking told me I was fat when I was fat. I knew I was fat. You know what everybody else told me? Oh bro, you look okay. You look decent. You know what? It's not that big of a deal. Motherfucker, it's a huge deal. Especially for me. Because you all motherfuckers depend on it. You see what I'm saying? Absolutely. And like, dude, the truth has become such an offensive thing to stand for that people cannot grasp it anymore. It's becoming something that's just, it's so unrecognizable that when people see it,

they see it as threatening. They see it as invasive. They see it as offensive. They see it as an assault on their beliefs. The truth is neither for your beliefs or against your beliefs. The truth is a non-biased fucking situation, meaning it's a fact. It's the truth. Oh, well, that's your perspective. Well, there's only so many motherfucking perspectives you can look at something. And usually there's two main ones. And one of them is going to produce a favorable result

and the other one isn't. Are there situations that are a dichotomy where they're both going to produce favorable results absolutely but there are absolutes and i think that i i think that what you're saying people need to really embrace the truth is a is a really precious thing that can transform people's lives and they there's that old saying that the truth hurts but the truths that hurt are also the truths that tend to heal people. That when you are willing to accept things even if it really you know

even if it's tough, even if it hurts That's how you know it's true bro. That's how you know it's true and if you can accept that and embrace it that's when you're on your way to growth. Like all these people out there that like you know when someone says something online and they get all pissed off about it, and they're like, I don't give a fuck what anybody,

motherfucker, you care the most of what everybody thinks. That's why you're saying I don't give a fuck. You want to talk about woke? You're displaying your insecurities for the world to see. You're showing your nipple. You're showing your butthole. You're doing it right there in the open. You just don't realize it.

Oh, I don't care what people fucking think. You care the most what people think. Otherwise, it wouldn't even be something on your radar. It's really amazing that we're talking about this because I just happened to come across this video, and it was so powerful. It was on YouTube. I don't even know how I came across it,

but do you remember Margaret Thatcher? She was the Prime Minister. She's a gator. Oh, different Margaret Thatcher. Margaret Thatcher, Prime Minister of England. Woman, like in the 80s. I like them a little older. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, she's dead. I don't know if you like them dead. That's offensive, Vaughn. Oh, sorry. She should still be alive. But she was on some show, and it was in the Netherlands. It was in English, but they had it subtitled. And I saw this.

It was a little clip. And basically, toward the end of the interview, the Danish, I think, are they Danish from the Netherlands? What are they? Dutch. Dutch. The Dutch host says, oh, oh, we do this special thing. It's just kind of a gimmick. And what I do is at the end of the interview, I have my guest stand up and just jump up and down.

And Thatcher's like, well, I can't imagine that I'm going to do that. There's no way I'm going to do that. And she has this really dignified way of expressing herself. And she's like, no, no, it's just a gimmick. And he goes, and so Thatcher says, young lady, I'll tell you exactly what that is. What that is is an attempt to show everybody that I'm normal and I'm human and I'm just like you. And I can laugh at myself and everything. And she goes on to say, I know who I am.

And I don't have to do anything clownish or stupid to prove to you or to anybody else that I'm a human being and that I have fun. It's a great, like she just totally drops the hammer on her. But it's how many people live like that where it's like, you know what? And you and I, we obviously have fun on social media. We do fun things. I post pictures of myself from, you know, my balling days in high school. In youth group? Yeah, in youth group, uh but youth group pimping

but yeah exactly but there there is a limit to that and i think people are so obsessed with like proving that they're somehow likable or they're somehow authentic or they're somehow real and i'm just a human just like you and it's gotten to the point of this obsession where where we're trying to one-up each other on showing just what we're capable of doing to get shock value and attention you know what i'm saying dude yeah and and not only that now it's become who's got the bigger sob story yeah who's the most vulnerable like i was telling somebody said to me andy you're so vulnerable no motherfucker i just tell the truth you know what i'm saying like dude it's like we're dealing on

instagram with a fucking 50 billion fucking tommy toppers about who wants to compete about who had the hardest time to get where they are well let's be real most of you motherfuckers telling these fucking sob stories and accomplish shit so what are you telling the story about like uh you're basically justifying why you haven't done a goddamn thing. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Oh, my fucking parents beat me. Oh, blah, blah.

Fuck. Dude, I couldn't even tell. I can't even share half the shit that happened to me. I can't even share it because it embarrassed my entire fucking family. You know that. And like, dude, people fucking, you know what I'm saying? Like, they don't even fucking get it, dude. Like, it's not about how bad your shit was.

It's about what you're doing now. It only matters how bad your shit was if you overcame it. Right. You know what I'm saying? You know what I think? I honestly think that when we talk about this, there are people who hear us talking about this and I think they really believe that that's part of our script we need to convince people that we struggle just like they do to form some sort of bond with them

but in reality things come easy for you it's like that text I don't know a couple days ago you know you know you and I were texting it's easy isn This shit's easy, isn't it, Tyler? Right. This whole fucking, Tyler, you've been with me for five years. How long have you been around? Seven? 2011. Seven, eight? Yeah. Fucking, it's been easy, bro, hasn't it?

Easiest thing of my life. Yeah. Well, and it's like, I texted you the other day, because we were texting about different things, and I texted you. I was like, bro, I think I seriously have legitimate emotional issues. And I loved your text back. He's like, there's no way you're more effed up than I am. But I think people think we're making that up.

I really think people think, oh, you know what? That's part of the drama. If Andy has struggle and we talk about how hard it is, then it makes the overcoming that much more. No, it's reality. Life is not easy. It's hard. No, bro.

For everybody. Listen, Vaughn, we have fucking antidepressant commercials on television that have a fucking woman pretending like she doesn't want to do her laundry and saying that she's depressed. Like, they're showing the situation like,

oh, well, if you don't feel like yourself, and then they show her sitting on the bed with like a basket of laundry and like huffing in it. Who the fuck ever wants to do laundry? You know what I'm saying? Like the last fucking thing anybody wants to do ever is laundry. It's the worst.

Nobody likes it. Nobody. Nobody likes it. And that's the world we live in now. If you don't like something, take a fucking pill. If you don't agree with something, they're fucked up. Right? If you can't fucking cut it, the system is broke.

Like, dude, where the fuck are we going? Like, we need some real fucking leadership, man. Some real leadership. And the real sad thing about all of that is that everybody has a problem everybody's oppressed so what happens is that the people who really do have legitimate depression they get dude they they don't get lost in it they don't get taken seriously because depression isn't even a real fucking thing anymore bro right depression everybody has depression right every motherfucker

out there if you ask them oh yeah i got a little bit of depression you don't have you're either fucking depressed or you're not okay and let me tell you something if you ain't sitting there fucking on a daily basis thinking about blowing your motherfucking brains out you ain't got it you're just having a bad run you know you how I figured out I had depression, bro? I think I said this to you before. I don't know if I ever said this on the show. Ever since I can remember, my entire life, my entire fucking life,

those antidepressant commercials would come on TV. And I would hear them say, if you have thoughts of suicide, you know, call a doctor immediately, blah, blah, blah, right? And I used to sit there. I can remember i was about 13 or 14 years old when i first fucking heard that and i'm like how fucking weak is this shit i'm like everybody thinks that because i didn't have the perspective to know that not everybody thought that i just always thought that i can remember thinking that when i was in fifth sixth grade dude you know what i'm saying like having these weird like dreams almost glorification of suicide like people don't understand what that means that means you're actually having like these

these these visions of you fucking shooting yourself or hanging yourself. And like, I thought that was normal. Right. You don't say it. Absolutely. So like, so like,

dude, that's fucking real depression. You know what I'm saying? Like, and because we have everybody depressed now, the people who really have it aren't getting fucking treatment. Oh, every motherfucker right now is on mental health.

So real fucking thing in entrepreneurship. No, it isn't. Mental health is a real thing in all of the world. And some people just aren't cut out to be entrepreneurs. My fucking mental health has almost nothing to do with how stressed I am or what I can handle that shit. It's an uncontrollable fucking chemical deal in my brain. And people will say, well, you could do fucking this, or you could do this therapy or that

motherfucker. You don't get it. You know what I'm saying? And people think they get it and they don't. And it's just another example of people doing shit for attention. You know, I'm saying? And people think they get it and they don't. And it's just another example of people doing shit for attention. You know, I used to be more vocal about it because I thought it helped people. But you know what it did? It made everybody fucking say the same shit. You know, I'm sorry. 100% of the population does not suffer from fucking depression. Right.

I'm sorry you had a bad day. But there's money in it, dude. Exactly. There's it i'm telling you i'm gonna sound like boy so my wife's a doctor i have i am not against doctors i i love doctors i i think you know i just went to there's good and bad ones yeah there's good and bad ones i just went to a i just went to a doctor he's he's my favorite doctor i've ever had in my life and uh i'm so thankful for i think with all the things that we complain about in America with our healthcare system, we still have the absolute number one healthcare system in the world.

That said, something has happened in all areas of medicine, psychological, biological, whatever, to where we pathologize everything. So it's not, oh, I'm just having a bad day. There's some things happening in my life. They're kind of getting me down. Suddenly, no, it's pathological. You have depression or whatever. We make diseases out of things that are actually results of lifestyle.

And I'm telling you, there's huge money in that. Oh, yeah. By the way, bro, here's a fucking pill that you could take that'll secure that shit for you that I'll get money off of. Right. Right. Like, my wife very regularly tells people, you know what? I think, you know, it's very possible that you could be diagnosed as clinically depressed. But a couple of things you want to make sure to get in order.

You're eating. You're doing exercise. You know, could there be some sources of stress it's amazing you know just like interpersonal type of things going through all those things instead of just rushing to a pill now my wife's not in that i mean she's a bro it's amazing what you can do when you actually take care of your own shit like you're supposed to you're supposed to drink water water is the primary fucking life source of humanity. You're supposed to eat good food.

You're supposed to move. That's what we're built for. When you don't do those things, guess what happens? Things don't work properly. It's amazing what will fix itself by you just getting your fucking shit together and stop being a lazy fucking piece of shit like I was sitting on a couch weighing 350 fucking pounds watching reruns of Pacific Rim until I was jacking off to the motherfucking robots okay like dude we need to wake the fuck up

yeah you know we need to be truly woke to be truly well yes to see life as a battlefield not a playground to realize that at the end of the day, you have to earn happiness. You have to earn your right to feel good about yourself. To realize that not everything is some sort of pathology or you're not being victimized, but that you could actually be suffering from something that's a result of your own choices. Of your own fucking decisions. Those are the first three steps to being truly woke. Dude.

Dude. Just because I'm not cool with someone sexualizing their fucking nine-year-old child at a fucking pride parade or whatever, I don't think that's right. Right. Okay? Just because I'm not cool with that does not mean I'm not woke. And by the way, I have a fuck ton of gay friends that I fucking love a lot. Well, and just because you're not cool with it doesn't mean that you hate the person who's doing it.

No. The motherfuckers I'm friends with don't agree with that shit either. Yeah. You know? And dude, really what it comes down to too is that we have a media who is in place that is feeding us information based upon ratings that they can get because they can then charge more money for the eyeballs that they get on the fucking stories they run.

Like, that's absurd. So you're telling me that the entire message that humanity has delivered is dependent upon a fucking dollar. And it doesn't matter if the message that's delivered is hurting the culture, the very fiber of what this country is made of. It doesn't matter. That's obscene, dude. You know what I mean? Absolutely. That's crazy. People want to know why I don't have kids? Listen to this podcast about 30 fucking times. Yeah, but there's another way to look at it I know the other way but you know what bro I'm fucking tired no I know hey man I'm tired

you know I'm the other way I know you're gonna say the other way is people like you and people like us have our duty to raise blah blah blah I don't I don't I don't want to use the word duty I'm just saying tell me yeah well no I'm not I don't want to use the word duty I just to me it's like like people try to guilt you into that like no here's what they do they tell me they're like well bro if you don't fucking have the next generation what's going to be like i'm like well i don't know why did you figure it out yeah no you should never bring a child into the world out of guilt what i am saying though is that if more people like us and i'll just say it because i don't feel bad about saying it if more people like us raise good kids um that influences culture does it because I think it does I don't know if it does because

I'm pretty sure I'm sure that was I think that's the way it used to be yeah I think it does I think I don't know Vaughn I mean I still think the family is are you kids at school yet yeah they started okay aren't you nervous about what the fuck these people are gonna teach them in school not super nervous i mean i am i'm i got my kid in a private school so yeah well that ain't much better i mean i went to private school too no i hear you fucked up shit no and i but the point remains that you're you're bringing up but it's it's a it's a crisis you know and i mean honestly dude i know i know you and i have had lots of great conversations about this and i'm not trying to necessarily, like, browbeat anybody with this. I'm not either.

But, well, what I'm saying is, like, I don't, I look around at humanity, and I don't see the solution human. I do believe people have to get back to just kind of humbling themselves and having a relationship with God. And I know a lot of really bad stuff has been done in the name of religion. I get that. I totally do. But for me, like, it comes down to, like and I know a lot of really bad stuff has been done in the, in the name of religion. I get that. I totally do. But for me,

like it comes down to like, I know that I'm screwed up. I know that I need the mercy and the power of God in my life. And I need, and I need it to flow through me to help other people. So to me, that's where I'm coming from. Like,

I don't look to any political party. I don't look to any sort of movement ultimately to save the world. I have to, I believe in the power of God working in the human heart. And that's what I believe in. This is a place where I truly do agree with Gary, like Gary V. I love Gary. We don't always agree, as you guys know.

But his favorite word to say is empathy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And as much as I'm talking aggressively here or whatever, it's because I'm passionate, dude. I'm so frustrated with all the problems. Yeah, I get it. I'm a fucking creator entrepreneur. I'm not a copy someone else entrepreneur.

I try to actually create solutions. And when you're built like that, it's very hard not to be passionate about literally every problem that's out there. You know what I mean? But one thing he does talk about a lot that I give him a lot of respect about is empathy. I wish he would talk about it more in terms of giving a context, but you know,

when people do fucked up shit, you know, I used to just attack them. This is why I don't do like these, these political rants and shit that other people do online. I could easily do them. And I think I'd probably be the best in the fucking world at it. But the truth is, is I don't do that because I do feel like you're discounting someone's upbringing and their worldview and all the things that contributed to them becoming that way. And I think a more productive conversation instead of to,

to attack and just like blast people and make these videos like, dude, nothing. I don't, nothing costs someone my respect more than putting someone else on fucking blast. I cannot stand that. I think it's the shittiest,

lowest, disgusting fucking form of trying to get attention That exists You know what I mean Because dude Everybody's got cracks in their fucking glass You know what I'm saying And so

When When I think about it And I think of the term empathy The real way to think about it Is to think about Okay okay, I believe what I believe. I was brought up like this. I had these experiences. This person had these other set of experiences that have literally no relation to what I've been through. They were told this by people that they loved over and over and over. You know what I'm saying? So you have to like,

try to understand where the fuck people are coming from. And there's just a huge lack of that going on. People just don't do that. They judge people. They point fingers. They point blame when in reality, man, the world fucking sucks because of you. And I'm not talking to you. I'm not talking to you. I'm not talking to you listening. I'm talking to all of you and I'm talking to myself. It's because we're not living the right example for other people to follow. That's the problem. That's the fucking problem. And for all this shit and all this conversation and all this drama, and at the end of the day, dude, people pretty much want the same shit.

You know what I'm saying? They want freedom? They want freedom. They want, they want safety. They want the ability to have the opportunity to be somewhat successful. They want to be able to make enough money to pay their bills and eat some food and have some good times with their friends. That's what people want, but they're not able to have it right now because dude, greed is completely destroying the fucking earth. And that's coming from a fucking entrepreneur capitalist. You see what I'm saying?

Yeah, man. And so, dude, I know people are listening right now, and they're thinking, well, fuck, dude, you're all over the place with your beliefs. Because I am. I don't fit into one box. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I don't think it's right that the pharmaceutical companies can charge $700 for a pill that I know costs less than a dollar. I know that's a great example. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's not OK. Dude, my sister and brother in law just had that huge tragedy with their kid like that. We've all been going through as a family. Their fucking bills are absurd, absurd. And that's by my standards. Right. Like I've got some money and they are absurd. And that's by my standards. Right? Like, I've got some money and they're absurd.

Right. Like, what would happen to a normal person that gets that? You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, it would completely ruin their fucking life forever. That is not okay. That is not fucking okay. You know?

Absolutely. But yet, what do we have we have a government that serves for their own fucking well-being they make laws that are special for them they have people they're allowed to take money from organizations that don't benefit the greater good right they're allowed to do things that regular people aren't allowed to do i mean dude we've got this whole thing we've got going on here needs to be fucking cleaned up you know you you got you you got the fucking internet who's still the internet like people like oh the fucking the economy is so fucked up. No shit is fucked up.

You got fucking something like 70% of the fucking sales are now online, but you don't charge them fucking tax. Where do you think the funding has gone for all these state governments? It's the brick and mortar business. Yes. Who employ more people. Yeah. You can't figure that out, and you're fucking supposed to be in office and serving us. You can't figure out that you're giving a 10% advantage

by letting the internet not charge tax. They can charge 10% less than the fucking brick and mortar companies that have the ones that employ most of America, and you can't figure out why the fuck people don't have jobs and why the government doesn't have. Like, how do you not see this shit? Right.

I mean, dude, it's just. Right. It should be obvious shit, dude, that everybody fucking notices. But why isn't it? It's because the biggest companies in the world are fucking buying John Q fucking politician a yacht. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. That's fucking wrong, bro.

It's wrong. No, I agree, man. It's bigger than any one of us individually can do anything about. And I liked what you were saying about just recognizing that life is hard and we need to be there for each other and not let the groups, not like the special interest groups and the politicians and the news agencies, not let them create divisions that really don't exist. They do that for profit, man.

Yeah, they do it for profit and they're hurting all of us. Yes. And dude, we need, as a people, we need to quit buying into this shit. You want to really solve the problem? Quit buying into all the bullshit that's put in your fucking ears and eyes. It's not true. But each of us would do our culture a really great service if we just knew the difference between someone saying that we were wrong

and someone saying that we were bad. Those are two different things. And we just need to learn to agree and disagree and not hate each other. I've read studies lately that say that one of the biggest differences in American culture is that there's always been, I mean, politics has always been fiery and, and there's always been a lot of passion,

but there's a lot of studies show that more and more Americans are not just seeing Americans who disagree with them as, see them as the enemy. They're not just seeing them as wrong or the other side. They're seeing them as evil. They hate them. And they hate them. Dude, where'd that come from?

Yeah. That came from politicians. Right. Well, and I would argue that it also came from politicians whose basic playbook is... Mudsling. Well, not just a mudsling, but to pit classes against each other

and genders against each other and races against each other. Andenders against each other and races against each other and i think there's a whole playbook i mean yeah don't get me started about that but there's a whole socialist marxist playbook that says if we can look about it we could yeah yeah rules for radicals by saul alinsky um and that's a far left book and the idea is that you create discontent between people and then you come in and you create a revolution. That's right. And you be the savior.

Yeah. But I love a quote. But dude, why is that the tactic? Because it comes down to personal gain. Right. It comes down to me wanting to be important or me wanting to make more money or me wanting to be somebody or me wanting to be the person who broke the story. And so we're not worried about telling the truth.

We're worried about telling a sensationalized version of something that could or could not be true in order for people to watch it, to argue about it, because then we could say, look at all the people watching. You got to pay more money to advertise your fucking dishwasher detergent. Yep. That's right. That's the problem. You're right.

You're absolutely right. It's fucking disgusting, dude. It is. But if people just listen to our show, everything will be better. And we don't even have advertisements. Motherfucker, people don't share my shit. They don't share my shit.

They say, I can't listen to him because he fucking cusses too much or they say something like you know like dude it's just it's ridiculous sorry i hurt your little fucking ear balls or eardrums or whatever the fuck you got i think you do have little balls in your ears don't you i don't know i was gonna say eyeballs and then i decided to say ears and the words mended and it became a new word yeah i like it yeah i like it so well i don't know bro good stuff man i think we covered a lot of stuff yeah man it's just you know people would do themselves a service by actually being woke to reality not what they want to believe is reality.

That's what being woke is. Being woke is seeing shit for what it is. And you motherfuckers out there saying, oh, I'm woke because your definition of woke matches your beliefs. You're a fucking puppet. Just like the shit that you think that you're not. You're that. You know what I mean? Woke is assessing the situation as a fact.

What is going on? And you know what most people that's used that term it's a slang term they like to talk about i'm so woke blah blah blah because they got some fucking conspiracy theory about some fucking bullshit you know like woke is is i'm a realist i see the way things are i see the way things aren't And I'm operating in that world You all motherfuckers Can operate in the other world And I'm gonna take responsibility For my baggage

And my issues And the way that I contribute Negatively to the world And I'm gonna do my best To take control of my actions To make the world a better place Instead of saying that I'm a victim Or that I'm gonna blame this

This and this You know That's what it means to be woke. I think so. Yeah. I mean, I think it's... I don't know, man. We got a long way to go.

Yep. You know what I'm saying? Like, a long way to go. And I know this is supposed to be business-related all the time and this and that, but this is just shit that's been on my mind, man. Yeah, man. And it disturbs me because like I've made a lot of money, dude. I continue to make a lot of money.

And like, you know, I'm not saying that to brag. I'm just saying as a matter of fact. And once you've gotten to a point where, I mean, you literally don't have to worry about money forever. Your thinking sort of changes. You know what I'm saying? You move on to new problems. Yeah. You know what I mean, you literally don't have to worry about money forever. Your thinking sort of changes. You know what I'm saying? You move on to new problems. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And this is something that, you know, people always say, dude, you should fucking run for office. I ain't doing that shit either. No. That's not my game. I'm not fucking schmoozing no motherfuckers to get anything from them. Although, I have to say, it would be kind of cool.

I mean, I'm assuming I might be able to give the prayer at your inauguration. I heard the funniest story. I heard the funniest story about some dudes that went to the White House recently and met with Trump. Yeah. So I was meeting with this guy who's a big, he's a big time. Sal and I were meeting with him. He's a big, I'm not going to say what company, but he's a buyer with one of the world's largest companies. And, um, he was wanting to buy a product from us. And I think, you know, it may or may not happen, but, um, anyway,

we were talking about, they had, uh, all the heads of like these big travel companies, enterprise, you know, fucking all the big car rentals and the big hotel companies, all the CEOs. And Trump walks into the room and goes, hey. All you motherfuckers here, you're all rich. If you think that we're going to that we're going to just subsidize all the growth of your company, you're in the wrong place. Now, if you need money in your town for infrastructure

and new airports and things that we can help to increase travel, that's what we can do. But if you think you're going to sponge us for money and you think we're going to do this, it ain't fucking happening. And he said it just like that. That's awesome. And then he goes, you guys understand me? You're all rich anyway.

And they all said, yes, sir. And he goes, he claps his hand. He goes, all right, who wants to see the Oval Office? Dude, you know how fucking funny that would be, dude? That would be awesome. Holy shit. All right, who wants to see the Oval Office? He's been in there for four years.

He's still fucking... Dude, that's some badass shit. That is. That's nice. And you know what? I don't agree with everything the motherfucker says and does, but the guy's funny. Dude. You can laugh at it.

I'm telling you right now. You know who else was funny as a president? Fucking Clinton was funny as fuck. Oh, yeah. He was. No, I'm telling you right now. I'm so over apologizing. If I think Mr. Trump does something good,

I'll say it. I kind of stopped doing that because you get some people, you say anything nice about the president and they go nuts. And they're all in California. No offense, Californians, but hey, they're not all in California.

I'm not such a sheep that I don't, I don't, I'm not such a sheep that I don't look at people for who they are and what they do, not what party they represent. Yeah. And you and I have talked about the conservative wackos on the other. It goes back to what I said. People are worried about being right.

Right. Instead of actually being right. You know? But it's like. So there is a business lesson here. Yeah. Here's the business lesson. The business lesson is let go of wanting to be right and embrace actually learning what is right.

And if you could fucking do that. That should be on a fortune cookie. Yeah. Well, if you can do that, you're ahead of the game. You know what I'm saying? You detach yourself emotionally from any of the result and you just see it as yes this works no this doesn't work that's what successful people do I don't give like the guys you guys all tease me and shit about everything was my idea I don't care if it comes

from me that's why you guys tease me because you know I don't really care I don't fucking give a shit if the right idea comes from the newest guy that just started here a fucking hour ago. You know what I'm saying? My job is to recognize the way that's going to work. And then when I pick the way it doesn't work and it doesn't, guess what I get to say? Well, I was fucking wrong about that. Maybe we should try the other way. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. It's not that hard. Messed up people want to be right. Successful people just want to discover the truth. Dude, I truly see that. Dude, every single dude I know who I personally know that I would consider wealthy. Okay?

This is not you own a fucking used Hurrican on Instagram. This is wealthy motherfuckers. Every single one of them, all of them obey what I just said. They're not trying to win the conversation. They're not trying to argue for their point. They're stating their point. They might pick their point, but when they see that their point isn't working, you know what do they cut the motherfucker off as fast as possible you want to be wrong as quick as you possibly can you see what i'm saying yeah it's just a different mentality but if the whole world would just think like this and their social issues or their their beliefs about the way that the world is we would have an actual product we'd be

able to have a productive conversation you know what i mean but the problem is is that people are indoctrinated with belief from the time they're two years old until they're 30 and then they have to make a decision about well was my mammy and my peppy right or is the rest of the world right and that's a hard decision for people to make it is it's hard to look and say well mammy and pappy didn't know what the fuck they were talking about you know what i'm saying but it's also it's also hard because people don't understand that you can say your parents are completely wrong about something and still recognize that they loved you you know and that they did a good job they were just wrong that's it that's it that's it like

you don't have to hate people that fucking that dude yeah dude can we just solve all the world problem please this would be fucking easy to do if you guys would just spread this shit around spread the message and you know not even my message just fucking take the message and make it yours i mean jesus the truth ah dude it yours. I mean, Jesus. The truth. Dude, it's just the truth. Yeah. It's just the truth. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. And people just want to argue and argue and argue. And at the end of the day, the truth stands, dude. The truth stands. It's like my boy Sean Whalen says, the lighthouse. You know what I'm saying? His lighthouse analogy.

The truth is a fucking lighthouse. It is not fucking moving. Doesn't matter if it's a hurricane doesn't matter if it's a fucking earthquake doesn't matter if it's a tidal wave it doesn't matter the lighthouse is fucking there to guide you and decide you can decide if you want to follow the lighthouse and guess what happens if you don't you end up in the fucking rocks and right now every other motherfucker out there is trying to figure out how they can get through life without while ignoring the lighthouse when the lighthouse is shining right in their fucking eyes you know what i'm saying yeah like that's the thing that confuses me like you've got this you have this all this evidence in the world that things are fucked up, but you can't see the truth still.

Instead, you fight for the fucked upness of the world. I mean, and I'm making a weird-ass face right now. Like that, you know, what's that face? What do you think I'm making here? You're perplexed. Yeah, like that makes no fucking sense face. You know what I'm saying? I seem to be making that more and more.

Yeah, yeah. I can tell because it's making me have wrinkles in my eyes. I need some fucking Botox or some shit, you know? Tyler, where you get your Botox? I know you get some, motherfucker. I know you've had Botox. I've had fillers in my eyes. I knew it.

I didn't even know it, but I knew it. Because that sounds like some shit you would do. You know what? That's okay. I still like you. Do you. I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying?

I'm wearing short shorts now. It's awesome. Right. I am. I know. Yeah. I know. I adopted the fucking,

they're not short. They're like nine inch inseams. That's not short. That's just shorter than what I was wearing. Yeah, that's what I would call a normal short size. We went to Vegas, and Tyler made sure to enforce that the shorts look good the whole time. Okay.

Well, that's his expertise, so he knows something about that. But it made me feel good. That's good. Oh, man. What else can we fix today? I don't know. I think this is kind of a long podcast. Is it long?

I don't know. It seems long. Oh, fuck long podcast. Is it long? I don't know. It seems long. Oh, fuck, dude. It is long. How long is it? Hour 15. Oh, shit. I'm sorry.

No, no, no. It was good stuff. You got to go. I just figured it. Yeah. No, that's all right. Shit, I was... Fuck, I keep going. Hey, we can keep going.

We're trying to pull that Rogan style now. Fucking three hours long. No, I like these kind of... Somebody bust out the fucking weed. I like these kind of podcasts, and I think, you know, judging by our numbers, most people do, too, is that... But you know what? Here's what I will say, bro.

They can vent through you. Yeah, but here's what I want to say to, like, you guys listening. Like, you don't have to fucking agree with what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Like, like... But you're wrong.

I always tell people, you can disagree with me. You have a right to be wrong. No, I'm just playing. Like, look, dude. Because, like, dude, don't take what I say to the fucking extreme, okay?

I'm giving you my perspective on my life experience and where I've been, and I've seen a lot of shit, man. Dude, all the shit that you guys could fucking imagine, like, just imagine the bad shit outside of being murdered

i've had all of it yeah you know what i'm saying and like dude i don't share that shit because i don't need a fucking sob story bullshit you know i share my i share how i got stabbed because it's relevant to business because it made me a memorable figure you know what i mean but outside of that i don't need to fucking sob it up like i know shit's hard it's fucking hard for all of us man and we're not in a race to see which one had the worst life experience you know right like fuck dude and to be honest no one gives a fuck unless you overcame it anyway yeah it's true you know good stuff man so i'm not running for president people are gonna fucking because that's what people are gonna say Good stuff, man. So I'm not running for president.

People are going to fucking, because that's what people are going to say. It doesn't pay enough. Yeah. No, it definitely doesn't pay enough. I already got all this fucking gray hair and shit. Why would I want more than that? Yeah. No kidding.

I got like the good blend. I got that blend, you know? Yeah. No, you do. Next year, it's going to be that fucking most interesting man shit. It's going to be all white. They're going to be like, how did Andy get 60 in one day? Yeah, well, you know, if I go completely- I mean, dude, am I off base on this shit?

No, man, but you know, if I go completely bald, or not completely bald, but completely gray and white, you know what's going to happen. What? I'm going to be Vaughn Connery. Oh! Vaughn Connery. Vaughn Connery. I like that. Yes. On that note- That's a good one. Vaughn Connery. Vaughn Connery. I like that. Yes.

On that note. That's a good one. I do got to get going. All right. Well, dude. Hey, man. Good talk. Yeah, it was.

It was a good talk. I'm enjoying these more conversational talks. I like the fact that we don't feel that compulsion to just create for the sake of creating. Yeah, dude. You know what? Publish for the sake of publishing. It just produces shitty content. It does.

And it's not good for you guys listening. It's not good for us. It's just not good for anybody. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's got to come from the heart, man. Yep.

I agree totally. Look, I want people to understand, too. I want to be clear about this. Like, dude, I don't give a fuck what your beliefs are. Like, it's not that I don't care, but I'm not going to discriminate upon you because you believe a certain thing. Right. That's what I'm saying when I say I don't give a fuck what your beliefs are. Right.

You got a place in my fucking table, man. Just let's have a talk. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's have a let's have an intelligent conversation versus fuck you.'re fucking this and this and this you don't know motherfucker i know you know what i'm saying and i don't know what you know because i haven't been where you've been right you know yeah let's let's let's let's talk that way i don't know maybe i am getting a little more mature no i think i think our i think our podcast has done a good job. I'm always amazed by the diversity.

And I don't mean like ethnic diversity. I mean the different kinds of people that listen to our podcast. And they're united. We've kind of found a common core of people who might look very different. They might have different backgrounds. They might speak differently. But they have, I mean, even just in the last RTA. You know what they are, bro?

What? They're fucking awesome Americans. They are. And you know what? You might be listening in Russia. You might be listening in fucking China. We got people all over the world. We have somebody who listens from the Isle of Man.

I know, which has got the coolest race ever. Yeah. The Isle of Man TT, which is the ballsiest race ever fucking put on. If you ever want to watch something cool, go watch Isle of Man TT, which is the ballsiest race ever fucking put on. If you ever want to watch something cool, go watch Isle of Man TT on YouTube. But, dude, we got people in Australia. We're going to do an event in Australia here soon, I think. Awesome.

But, you know, you guys are fucking, you may not be Americans, quote unquote, but, like, you still represent that same thing that I'm trying to say. You know what I'm saying? So don't feel left out. I still love you guys. It's so American to go, you may not be, you may not actually be American.

But you are. But you're awesome, so therefore you are American. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, bro. Like I'm trying to say, you know what, you might not be American, but you're fucking still American.

Fuck yeah. I'm telling you, I still want to have that series, America AF. Oh, dude. American as fuck. But it could also be America Andy for selling. Yeah, I'm telling you,

we need to do a series of that. I think we should start a whole new podcast. It should be like cars and all sorts of popular culture type stuff. Yeah, fucking cars, guns, fucking naked chicks, apparently. Right. Apparently that's what America is.

Right. If you ask anybody else, that's what America is. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I don't fucking know. No comment. I'm so fucking lost right now. All right.

Well, I think we better wrap up. Yeah, go ahead. So, guys, thank you so much for listening. This has been a special production of the PBS Broadcasting System. Are we going to actually post this? Yes. Yeah, so, guys, seriously, thanks for listening, and we'll catch you later. See you. Outro Music