REAL AF with Andy Frisella - What Makes Your Work Worthwhile?, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO316

Episode Date: September 27, 2019

What makes your work worthwhile? Is it only worldwide influencers who make 9-figures that should feel good about themselves & their lives? Or can you feel great about life if you're a blue collar worker, a teacher, or someone who doesn't even earn $45,000 in income? Whether it's people who think "happiness is the new rich" or people who equate being famous with being impactful, there's a lot of confusion out there about how to evaluate the worth of a job & the value of a human life.

I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon. Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me, gotta lose. What is up guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy. I'm your host. And I am the motherfucking CEO. Guys, our goal here at the MFCEO Project is to help you become the MFCEO of your life, your world, and your community. Okay? A lot of you guys are interested in business. A lot of you guys are interested in making more money.

A lot of you guys are just interested in being better. That's what this show's about. We're going to cover entrepreneurship. We're going to cover business. We're going to cover all sorts of things that are going to have to deal with you improving. And just because you don't own a business right now doesn't mean you shouldn't be thinking as if you did. And we're going to talk about that today. As always, I am joined by two other dudes here. One of them you know as MC Salmon. The other one you know as DJ DJ God. And they are both here to weigh in and bring some value to the people.

What is going on? Well, speaking of God. Did we speak of God? Well, you said DJ, DJ God. Oh. And whenever you speak of DJ, DJ God, that is kind of like speaking of God. But I need you to pray for me, man. Mm-hmm. Can I tell you why? I already know why. I can see you sitting next to a box of pumpkin spice protein bars by First Form.

Yeah. And I think the prayer needs to be that you don't eat all of them at once. Dude, how fucking good are those for real? Oh, dude. I ain't even trying to plug either. They're amazing. No, no, no. They really are amazing.

You know, God is my witness, completely unbiased. These protein bars are amazing. And every time, like in the last six months, we've had some people stay at our house as guests, and I have a box of protein bars bars and I just hand it to them. And they don't necessarily even know my connection to First Form. And I'll hand it to them. I said, do you ever eat protein bars?

Oh, yeah. Have this one. And the jaws just drop. Yeah. Yeah. They're amazing. Yeah. Probably the best.

I mean, in my opinion, probably the best thing that First Form has ever made. Maybe. I don't know. We'll see. They're freaking good. That's for sure. Yeah, they are. But back to my prayer request.

Let me ask you a question. What do you think is crazier than having three little daughters under the age of six? Having four? Yeah. You did not. Dude. Oh, fuck, man. Wait, you didn't tell Andy?

Number four. Holy shit. Number four. Four freaking girls. Now, you got to have another one so you guys can have like a basketball team. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? Right. And WNBA team? Yeah.

Damn, dude. What's up with you? You know what I love about the WNBA? You should be at home putting the work in. I don't know. It must be the gene. The impaler gene. No shit. It produced nothing but women. Dude. You've been doing some impaling. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome, man. Well, I explained to you

why God wants me only to have women. I've explained that to you before, right? Why? Well, because he was concerned about creating another baller. No, no, no, no. On my level. No, no, no. You know?

To be mentored by me and share my genetics. You want to know why God gave you four girls? I'll tell you why. Because he knows all that old school youth group pimping you used to do. I know. Yeah, dude. And now you're going to have to be the defender of the other youth group pimps. Yeah.

So when your girl's going to youth group, you're going to have to be the regulator. That's true. Somebody's got to keep them safe in youth group. I'll be able to clearly identify all the other guys that were able to get to first base. That's right. Oh, dude, that's pretty cool, oh dude that's no it's crazy man it's a little overwhelming so technically tonight is the gender reveal party oh is it so everybody's you know but this this this won't drop until tomorrow so this this episode so you're just gonna spoil it but not spoil it i'm gonna hopefully we don't hopefully nothing happens and we...

What happens if it happens to be a boy now? You have to come back and do a retraction. Well, actually, there's a possibility that it could be twins. We don't know that for sure, but it's in a little... Basically, here's the story. We got the envelope from the doctor, and we took it to Party Central, and we said, here, don't show us what it is,

but fill up this box with like, if it's a girl pink and you know, if it's a guy blue, well, so the way they did it, my wife could clearly see what was in the box. Yeah. So yeah,

we know it's a girl. So, Oh, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean,

it's, I'm going to go in dude. You just gotta go. Hey, at this point I'd just be rooting for more girls. Yeah. No, I mean, it's... If you're going to go in, dude, you just got to go all in. Hey, I... At this point, I'd just be rooting for more girls. Yeah. I don't... The truth is, it's really all I know, you know?

Four. Yeah. Holy shit, dude. Yeah, it's a lot of girls. And three of them are going to be in high school together. Yeah. I have a buddy, my best friend growing up, and he also had three girls, but his girls are now older because he got married way before I did.

And I was asking him, I was saying, hey, my girls kind of treat me like I'm the king and I'm the hero I said I'm I'm not looking forward to that changing and he said well I wish I could tell you that it never changes but right now he said the hormones I'm dealing with it's almost too much to bear he said you'll either go to the bottle or you'll go to the weights or you'll go to both. Well, you're already hitting those weights, brother. Well, I'm trying. Yeah. But, yeah. So, yeah, you were alluding to,

I don't know, what were you alluding to? The topic of our conversation. I think I was saying we were going to talk about, you know, because, like, dude, one of the big things that we get here with the show is, you know, we constantly talk about business. You know, we constantly talking about building a seven figure, eight figure, nine figure, potentially 10 figure company, which a lot of people are doing. But we also get a lot of people who email in and they're like, yo, Andy or yo, Vaughn. They never say, yo, Tyler, but they'll say, yo, Andy and yo, Vaughn.

And they'll be like, dude, I'm a plumber. I'm a fireman. I'm the store manager at Best Buy. I teach Sunday school. I work real hard at my job. It's solid pay. I love it. But they struggle because they're going to come in

and they're going to say, dude, I'm not a huge influencer. I'm not going to make seven figures or eight figures a year. You know, I don't see how some of this stuff is applicable to me. And it makes them almost wonder, like, if they're doing something that isn't right. You know what I mean? Is their work worthwhile? Yeah, dude.

And that's a tough thing to hear for people, I think. It is for me at least I don't know how some of these other dudes do it I'm sure they get messages like that too but um you know I love that we're talking about this because I know how much you value blue collar workers yeah and I know how much you just value work in general dude you know and that's what I'm saying you know and I think people get hung up in like um I mean, let's face it, man. We live in a society that's just a lot of flesh. You know what I'm saying?

Everybody's showing what they got. Everybody's showing where they live and the cars they drive. And dude, I get that, man. I'm proud of where I live and I'm proud of the cars I drive and I'm proud of all that shit and I show it and it makes me feel like kind of shitty sometimes that people sort of take that as like it's making them feel like I can't be that yeah and that really has nothing to do with their worth on this planet right you know what I mean and it doesn't matter how many times you say this Andy but you always say that success is the pursuit of your own full potential and if that if that means that what you've decided makes you happy in life, and if your potential means that you are only going to make $45,000 a year

as a teacher or whatever, that's fine. Nowhere, to the best of my knowledge, nowhere in the last five years have we ever said anybody's worth is determined by their net worth. Ever. And that's kind of like the messages i see being portrayed across the internet right make millions of dollars make this make that and i understand i understand where they're coming from because dude that shit's important all right like i take care of a lot of fucking people dude i provide a lot of people with careers that wouldn't have them otherwise shit's important it is it is and it is one barometer to how much your effort you're putting in yes absolutely but what i i guess my issue is is like you know there's a ton of value to these other people like when these

people write in and they basically you know it's almost like they're i don't know like venting or i don't know what you would call it like it's almost like they're confessing yeah yeah but like they didn't make the right choice i'm sorry yeah i screwed up like they'll say shit to me like bro i'm only a firefighter i'm not like you motherfucker you do awesome shit all the time right you're extremely valuable dude it really bothers me when people approach me like that. You know, like, I'm running this business. I'm nothing like you. Motherfucker, I used to be just like you. I was

lower than you. So, like, I wish people who listen to this show would start to really understand that there's no judgment here. You know what I mean? But the goal here is to get you to a point where you're being productive in a way inside your world that produces the best amount of impact. And when you

do that in your world, the income is going to follow. You're going to have opportunities. I can't even tell you how many people I've had work for me who other people found like, you know, like I've had guys that work in my retail store, right? They're making, you know, 12, 13 bucks an hour, right? They're working to these, they're working and working and working. They're doing this great job. They're kicking ass. And somebody comes along. It's like, fuck dude. I really like you. Like, dude, one of my best guys ever that I've ever had was, was got to a point where he was basically lured away from our company. And because of how good of a job he did inside our company. Yeah. And you know what? I'm proud of him. You know what I mean? That's cool. And, um,

I think people lose sight of that. You know, when you really dedicate what you can actually give to what you're actually doing, there's so many crazy opportunities that present themselves just because you're being a valuable human. Right. And that's something that people just, because it can't be like scored, right? There's no like score to that. People have a hard time seeing that. But I'm going to tell you, man, on the flip side of that, you know how many people I've hired from random places? I met them and I liked them.

You know what I'm saying? Fuck, there's two of them sitting at this table. There's two of them sitting right here in front of me. I met both of these dudes, Tyler and Vaughn, in situations that were unrelated to my business that I happened to actually just like them as people and eventually it created careers. Right? Yeah. Like, dude, if you wouldn't have been giving your all with the Nines magazine when you

interviewed me for that article, we wouldn't even be doing this. Yeah. But we also talked about Oscar for the first 30 minutes of you and me meeting. Like literally we talked about dogs. We talked about Oscar and Otis and Charlie and Rudy. Yeah. Yeah. And dude, that's, but, but that's, but what that is, bro, is that's you caring about what you're trying to, because let's be real, you're a great dude and you care a lot about people, but you were also trying to create the best product for your employer. You know, you're trying to dig deep what makes this

dude tick what's he really care about you know and you're doing and and a great relationship spawn from that create an amazing career yeah right and dude tons of opportunity for me too yeah you know so like we're people just don't grasp how that opportunity aspect really works, you know? So like right now, and dude, you know what? I'm even getting ahead of myself because dude, some dudes that are plumbers fucking love plumbing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, dude, I know guys who are actual plumbers who love fucking plumbing and they talk about plumbing and they've grown plumbing companies and now they're plumbing fucking tycoons you know what i'm saying dude there are people in the arete syndicate who make millions of dollars

as plumbers right like literally they run plumbing companies i know i was talking to i could be getting this wrong i think it's andy aranda is one of the plumbers in the group or he owns a plumbing company andy i'm sorry if i'm totally misrepresenting you but i'm pretty sure he is but we were talking about the fact that there are so many people again it goes back to not to again rip on the millennials or anything but there are so many people that if it's not this like super glamorous job they don't want to do it right and yet you forget that like plumbers pretty much are never out of business not only that that, bro. They are so in demand. And it's interesting.

That's right. The stuff that they're doing these days, it's cool. And dude, I feel like there's two people that we're talking about here. We're talking about the people. We're talking to two audiences, really. We're talking to the audiences who are maybe like, I would say, 30 or older, and they've kind of made some decisions about their life, and maybe they're not real happy with those decisions,

and they think, man, I'm too old to go back and start and do this shit. First of all, that's not true. If you don't like where you are, you've got to change it, man. You have to change it. You spend too much time in your career and too much time doing whatever it is you do to try to make money to not really love it. Right. You know, and I'm not saying you got to fucking love it every day because I'll tell you right now, there are plenty of days that I fucking hate what I do. There's more days that I love what I do.

And you know what makes me love what I do? It's not the money or anything like that. It's coming in here, goofing off with the dudes and the girls that work in here, teasing everybody. You know what I'm saying? Getting everybody, getting everybody,

they probably all make fun of me when I walk away. I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's fun. Right. And I think people are really we're getting into a real dangerous point in society where people think like i i'm the most anti-guy when people say oh money won't make you happy

like i that's it's fucking bullshit it makes you pretty fucking happy you could do a lot of cool shit yeah it's not the shit you think a lot of people think oh it's buying a fucking nice car or a nice house that's not what i'm talking about like dude i'm talking about being able to grow a company where you see people who started out at minimum wage that are now making six figures buying homes having that shit is awesome can't do that without money yeah okay't be a big, can't be a big shot charity guy without money. You know what I mean? And I'm not saying big shot charity is a bad thing, dude. It's fuck. Dude, it is a good, you know what? I don't care what anybody says. When people know that you gave fucking millions of dollars to charity and they know that's the kind

of person you are, it feels good. Yeah. It's just the reality. And I know that's taboo and people are like, Oh, you should never tell. No, it feels great. Well, no. If somebody who's wealthy never tells where they give their money to or if they give money, people assume they don't. So then they're like, fuck, dude. You just drive a fucking nice car. You don't know how much you could fucking do with that car money.

Blah, blah, blah. Like, dude, you know. Dude, I worked in what's called advancement for a couple years. It's like working for a college where you fundraise and you work with a bunch of very wealthy people. And very often those people do not want people to know how much they've given because they are humble people. They are people that, that don't want all the credit.

But what we consistently used to tell them is you have to, because it inspires other people to do the same. That's right. Yes. So, so in many cases it's like, well, that dude did it. I'm going to one-up him. Dude.

But that's fine. That's fundraising. Yeah, that's fundraising. That's how you do it. Yeah, that's how you do it. Like, dude, I want people to give money to my high school where I went because it's privately funded. Yeah.

Right? So what do I do? They say, hey, we need to let people know. I said, well, fucking put us in your magazine yeah put us in their magazine and then what happened funds went way up right because everybody didn't want to have chris and andy be the only guys doing it right you know and that's cool exactly that so you're saying that the two different people you're speaking to you were talking about yeah yeah so so we're talking about uh uh thank you for that because i was getting

way off um you know and then we're talking to young people who are, you know, 19 years old or 17 years old or 20 years old. And they're like, fuck dude, for me to be able to be wealthy, I got to go start a social media ad agency and I got to buy all these courses and I got to do this and I got to do that. And they think that anything outside of that is not going to be a career that they're going to find happiness, fulfillment, and money. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. There's money in anything if you're fucking the best at it.

Right. That's the point. Say that again, because I don't think people understand this. There is money in every single fucking thing that you can do if you're the best at it. Absolutely. That's the thing. And people just don't think like that. You know what I mean? And so I think it's important to talk about some of the,

I don't know, like core questions that people should be thinking about in terms of what they're doing with themselves and how, how to take, let's say, let's say we are dealing with someone who is, you know, I work real hard at my job and it's solid pay and I like it and I'm not this, you know, like what questions should these people be asking themselves to really

determine whether their work really is worthwhile. That's right. Yeah. Right. So I think that's, I don't know. I think that's a good. So I think that's, I don't know, I think that's a good thing to talk about for people. I don't know what you think.

I agree. Can I tell a story? Yeah. So when I was a lot younger, so you remember like, so next, next, oh no, I'm sorry, two months from now, November.

So about four years ago in November, my dad died. And when he was alive, like years before he passed, he was coming to visit me in Manhattan, Kansas. And I was just out of graduate school. So I wasn't like a college student, but I was still pretty young in my mentality. And we went to a McDonald's and there was this guy there behind the counter and it was an older guy. At the time, he was probably mid to late 40s. He looked tired, but like, man, he was hustling a lot. And I don't know what, but something just like hit me and rubbed me wrong.

And I must have looked pretty disturbed. And my dad looked at me and he's like, what's your problem? And I go, I just feel sorry for that guy. And he goes, what are you talking about? I said, I feel sorry for that guy. He's like mid-40s and he's working at McDonald's. And I figured my dad, who was probably mid-40s at the time,

he's probably older than that. I figured he was going to say, oh yeah, you're right. He didn't. He's like, what that. I figured he was going to say, oh, yeah, you're right. He didn't. He's like, what are you talking about? He said, the man has a job. He's working hard. And on top of that, the reality is he's probably actually paid pretty well because McDonald's takes care of their people. He's like, this is the problem, Vaughn, is that there's a whole generation who think that you know your worth is based on if you have a glamorous job or not he said the fact that he is

literally working hard at mcdonald's and being a contributing member of society and supporting his family that's a fucking win that is a win yeah and i mean i was like don't you know yeah you remember the old bugs bunny cartoons where they did something stupid and they turned into a donkey for a second? That's how I felt. But I mean, I don't know what you think about that. But see, to me, that's been like a long time lesson that I learned from my dad is it's not the job. It's not. It's not, man.

It's a very difficult, touchy situation for me because we run an entrepreneurship success brand. And success in entrepreneurship is usually scored by money. Right. Right. So I want to really talk about these things with people, you know, these people who might not be sure how this is going to pan out. Yeah. And if they should still be doing it, you know, I think the first thing that people have to understand is what you just said, man, some jobs are just going to be more glamorous than others. It doesn't mean that they are more

worthwhile. You know, if your job provides value to the world, it's worthwhile no matter what. And, you know, people don't think about it like that they don't realize like hey you could be a mechanic and if you work your ass off and you're a great mechanic you are morally much better than a guy who's a missionary who doesn't do shit right you know what I'm saying like people don't really understand that concept so I would rather personally i'd rather work with the motherfucker who makes cheeseburgers and mcdonald's but doesn't perfect than the guy who's worked in my industry for 20 years and hasn't been able to do shit because he's bounced from one to the next one next one that's the truth right so dude people ask here all the time how do we find these people

fuck man we find them all over the place you just got to open your eyes you know what i'm saying right when you go to like when i go to dinner i go to and i got a waiter that is just unbelievably good at what they do i almost always ask them i'm like hey man uh is this like your full-time gig or is this your part-time gig what's your deal and i'll try to find out their deal and and then i'll be like, well, hey, look, man, you killed it tonight. Like killed it. Because regardless, I want them to know they did a good job. And I say, if you're ever interested in moving, you know, in career advancement, we promote from within. You always got to start out here. Everybody starts at the same spot. But if you're interested, here's my shit. I do that, dude, I do that every time i go

somewhere and i get great service it's funny you completely rubbed off on me in that way because i don't know if if emily or you use the uh all the instacart where they actually uh that's emily yeah they they deliver all these delivers right to your door and they you know different people will do it you know it's kind of like an uber thing yeah yeah well we had this kid the other day that was like unbelievable in his organization. He even had a little handout printed saying, hey, I want to always do a really good job. Please let me know. Here's how you contact me.

Yada, yada, yada. That's what I'm talking about. I literally said to him, dude, have you ever heard of First Form? Yeah. Because you need to call First Form and tell them that I sent you and literally talk to Logan or whoever they talk to and sign up. But when you encounter somebody like that, especially in today's day and age. People don't realize that people like me are looking for people like that.

Like I am actively, no matter where I go, I am looking at how you do things. Dude, it doesn't have to be my company. I am watching. And like, you know what? Sometimes I'll go into my friend's restaurants my company I am watching and like you know what sometimes I'll go into my friends restaurants or my friends place and I'll say hey bro like I did this to the gym there's a girl there's a new girl at the gym uh I don't know like six months ago that was like just working her ass off to keep the gym clean I went and told Pat my buddy who runs a gym

to say hey Pat that chick works hard dude dude, like hard. And he's like, yeah, man, we're going to give her a rate. Like he was already aware. But like people, people that are aware of this shit, they go out of their way to bring value to those people.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. And I'm talking me bring value to them by a, tell them they got a good, they did a good job and be considering them for another opportunity. It doesn't always work, but you know, you never know who's watching or who's paying attention to how you do it. So you have to understand it's not

the job that you do. It's how you do the job that you do. Right. You know what I'm saying? And that's something that I hope everybody sticks. Let's stick with them because we talk about this and everybody likes to say oh how you do one thing is how you do everything yeah that's an easy thing to fucking repeat we've all heard it 10 million times but executing it in real life is a completely different scenario it doesn't happen right all these motherfuckers like last night i made a post and i got 30 40 people out of the comments say how you do one thing is how you do everything. Yeah, bro, we all heard that shit.

But why aren't you fucking living it? You know what I'm saying? If you know it, why aren't you doing it? Why did you walk past that piece of trash on the floor? Well, that wasn't my piece of trash. Well, make it your piece of fucking trash. Because that's how you're going to make value in yourself. People think it's so stupid.

Dude, I've had people sign up to Arate. Fucking dude, it's a fucking almost six figure investment to be an Arate syndicate. I've had people apply to Arate because I took a fucking snap of me picking up trash in my gym. That's no bullshit. Cole Hatter, ask him about it. Yeah. No, no question. And to your point, what you said earlier, that 19-year-old kid who's doing the Instacart for Aldi and the way that he put an effort into that, that makes his work far more worthwhile than some C-suite executive who inherited his job,

who pisses away that opportunity because his daddy or whoever got him the job. Bro, who do you think's more fulfilled? Oh, easily the kid. You see what I'm saying? Easily, yeah. Like that kid is putting everything he has into every day, into every customer, into every opportunity. And he might be making fucking $10 an hour.

Who knows? But I guarantee you when that kid goes to bed at night he looks himself in the mirror he might have a twinge of frustration but he knows he couldn't have done anything more yeah that c-suite motherfucker he goes to bed and he's like fuck i you know i'm getting paid but i still can't figure out why i feel depressed i still can't feel why why do I not feel that excitement about my career? Why am I not excited about my life? Because you're not giving anything to it. Right.

And you know it, no matter how much you say, dude, you know, when you've given what you're supposed to give and you know, when you haven't, and if you don't give what you're, dude,

I don't have any motherfuckers coming and telling me what to do on a daily basis. I don't have a fucking boss. I don't have someone you're some dude i don't have any motherfuckers coming and telling me what to do on a daily basis i don't have a fucking boss i don't have someone that says hey andy you need to get your shit together today i gotta do that shit for myself right you know what i'm saying absolutely dude i gotta do this shit on my own man and and do i have to report to people sure i gotta report to the fucking millions of customers that we have that's a lot of pressure you know but like dude these when i go to bed at night the reason i feel like a bad motherfucker is because i know i did everything i fucking could you know and dude there's scenarios all the time that people don't realize that come up that are just they're shitty and you have to deal

with them you're not going to always win those battles, but if you did everything that you can do the right way from your heart, you can go to bed at night and feel peace, you know? That's something people talk about a lot too, right? The inner peace is the new success. No, motherfucker. Success is fucking success. Well, and how do you get inner peace?

By giving everything you have. Right, exactly. Which also produces success. Right. You know, there's so much bullshit on the internet right now bro that like oh happiness is the new rich inner peace is the new like like these things are not related they're fucking aligned perfectly you're just listening to fucking dumb asses that don't know shit who repost shit that they hear somewhere happiness fulfillment peace and success are actually perfectly aligned they are perfectly aligned and they all have to do with you one caring and two exercising your potential out of your body on a day by day by day basis.

That's how you get happy. That's how you become inner peace. That's how you become fulfilled. And people just aren't talking about it. And what it is, is that so many people are justifying what they've got in life as what they really wanted. Right. So they went out when they were a kid.

They wanted to be a fucking astronaut. They ended up being a janitor. Nothing wrong with being a janitor. They ended up being a janitor. And now instead of saying, oh man, I really wish I would have done an astronaut because that shit hurts they're saying you know what i i this is the life i chose this is what no you didn't choose it it chose you by default because you didn't practice what the fuck you're supposed to practice so no matter how much

you smile on the outside you're still frowning on your heart yep and that's a big deal that is going on right now in the fucking world it's harder to admit that you screwed up and made the wrong choice instead you just say well i i don't really want to do that that's i meant to do that i i that's like all those people that care about money or success they they suck the reality is if he's honest he he does too he just realizes that he failed bro you know those things align they're not mutually exclusive you know what i'm saying yeah no i hear like they align they go together and like success is not a bank account man success is doing the best that you fucking can and all of you listening right now can do better at what you do every single person and the reason

that you don't have fulfillment on a day-by-day basis and the reason it goes up and down and up and down and up and down and up and down is because you're not practicing putting out all your potential into the world on a daily basis like we would talk about with you know being organized in your efforts you see what i'm saying absolutely side note though related to excellence and success. And you were talking about, you know, picking up trash, the video of you picking up trash. One of the coolest experiences of my life in the last couple of years is when we were at one of the RTA syndicate summits. And, you know, you have the most recent one had about 130 people. And, you know, 130 people sitting through a couple of seminars drinking coke

drinking coffee water getting snacks there's gonna be you know stuff laying around right not really bro when we were done i we were all tasked with cleaning that up and i'm like there's nothing really to clean up we had fucking 260 people at my house that night of graduation last year yeah all together 260 people inside your fucking house night of graduation last year. Yeah. All together. 260 people inside your fucking house. First of all, imagine that many people in your fucking house. It's a shit ton, even with a big ass house. Yeah.

Which is what I got. Yeah. Okay. There was zero cleanup. Right. Fucking zero. These motherfuckers, dude. And they did it drunk too.

They were wasted wasted everybody was fucking trash dude i was gonna say that but yeah we were doing fucking shots and like it was it was a it was a good party dude there was not one fucking piece of trash in my house dude and we did not have a crew to clean it up these people it's just reflective of what successful people are like yep you know what i'm saying like it's just they dude they're humble they take care and they get a bad rep in the world because it's easy to point at someone and say oh fucking successful motherfucker fuck that guy motherfucker those are people who make the world go fucking round okay dude i was so fucking impressed by the

fact that we had zero cleanup at my house zero it was like dude and we got a great crew here at first form like a great crew but there's always some cleanup yeah there was zero cleanup yeah no i remember that yeah it was crazy it was awesome man but, I don't know what the fuck we were talking about. Well, you were just finishing it. Reel it back in, Vaughn. Yeah. I mean, just to your point that it's not the job you do that makes the work worthwhile. It's how you do the job that makes it worthwhile.

Yeah, man. And that's it. Yeah. You know? It's the effort. The person determines. I think along with that, too, though, bro, like a very similar statement that we can make is it's not how much you make, but it's how much you

could make. You know what I'm saying? That's something people think about too. Your salary doesn't determine your significance, but your profit, it should be driven by your potential. If you're sitting there with a world of potential to make all this profit on something that you're doing, and you could do all these good things with this profit, and you're not doing it, you're going to be sick on the inside. You're going to be unfulfilled. You're going to feel like you should be doing more because you should be, right? Yeah. You have an obligation, man. You have your kids. You have your cousins. You have your teachers.

You have your mom and dad. You have people that look up to you that you don't even realize look up to you. Okay. And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying if you're an incredibly talented person with the capacity to make loads of money, you should switch from, you know, your low paying job that you love to go selling commercial real estate. But, you know, and I am saying like, if you're, if you really truly love your job, stick with it, become better at it, evolve it, push the limits. No one says that because you're this kind of janitor, you can't reinvent the fucking game of being a janitor. And you know what could happen if you reinvented the game of being a janitor and figured out a way to make your company more profitable by the way you fucking clean shit and operate an organized shit well now you're on to something now you could take how you do it and

you could sell it to all the other companies guess what you think you're not going to still love doing that shit and you're you know what i'm saying absolutely like there's all kinds of different ways here guys that are just getting getting completely blown off the table by all these fast-talking, course-selling fucktards. That's really what I call them. Absolutely. But, dude, to that point, I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine, and he's in a particular profession that's known for not getting paid very well. And he was complaining to me that he wasn't getting paid very well. And I was like, dude, listen, you are really good at what you do. Okay. He's a teacher. Now, more than ever, teachers have the unlimited ability to make

money because you teach your regular classes and then you develop courses that are awesome, and you sell them online. So I'm over feeling bad for the teachers. The opportunity's there, man. The opportunities are so there. You can go around, you can create a keynote, and go around and teach other teachers. You know what the problem is with that? What's that?

The problem is they feel like they need permission. Probably to some extent. So if you're listening right now and you're one of these people who thinks that God or the teacher, fucking master, I don't know, the dean, whoever, is going to give you permission, he ain't. She ain't. God isn't. Guess who's got to give you permission? You. Yep. There's no qualifying school for entrepreneurship you're

either good or you're not good you know how you get good by doing shit bad for a long time that's right you know and you just got to start thinking creatively like i think we're we're also living in a time where there's so many now i i agree with you that serial entrepreneurship is not a good thing um generally speaking you got it you got to stick with what you got. But I do think that for people who make not a really exceptional- Now, you're going to have people who fucking are going to be like emailing about that statement. Well- I don't think that's-

You said serial entrepreneur. Look at fucking Warren Buffett. That's Warren Buffett. That ain't Joe Blow you. Right. Okay? That's Warren Buffett. If you want to be a serial entrepreneur when you're 75 years old and worth fucking $100 billion, do it.

Right. And as you and Ed have pointed out before in RTA, in most of those cases, the vast majority of that person's income still comes from one thing. That's right. But no, my point is that in today's day and age with all the resources and the platforms, if you have a job where it's a fairly lower income, there's all sorts of things you can do to supplement your income. There's all sorts of other ways of generating revenue if you're creative and you work hard. But be that as it may, that's not the main point. So you were saying, so point number one was it's not the job you do, it's how you do the job. Point number two, you said it's not how much you make, it's how much you the job. Point number two, you said it's not how much you make, it's how much you could make.

Yeah. Were you done with that? I guess so. I know you've told this story a lot, but give us a cliff note because it's such a powerful story. When you were killing it a couple years ago, but you were laying on the couch and watching Pacific Rim. Yeah.

You got to tell that story again because we get new listeners every day. Yeah. Well, I don't know. It was 2014 probably. Yeah. Wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

And I got sick. I had pneumonia. That's what I had. And I couldn't come to work for like three weeks. And so I sat on the couch in my house and i was watching pacific rim and i liked that movie so much that i watched it about 47 fucking times and i still actually like that movie i don't like the sequel but i like that one the original but uh dude i check my you know i'm getting paid because i was at home for a long enough time

where I could see my pay coming through, right? I'm making, dude, I was making the most money I was ever making. Like, just crazy, crazy money. And that was the first time in my life I was making crazy money. You know what I mean? Yeah. My friend calls that drug dealer money. Yeah, now I'd be pissed if I was making that money.

But I went, that was like my first taste of making money. And, dude, I was making a lot and uh and i remember sitting there thinking like damn dude this is pretty cool like i thought about it like at first i'm like this is pretty cool i don't even go to work and my fucking bank account's going up i see it right here on my phone about you know a week into it i'm like man I'm kind of bored. By the third week, I'm like, this fucking sucks, dude. Like this sucks. And I started to realize that it wasn't about what I was making.

It was about how much opportunity I was leaving on the table by not being functional. You know what I'm saying? So it woke me up to realize that success isn't like the money or the fucking job or the car or the girl or the house or any of that shit. Success is the pursuit and fulfillment of one's own true potential. And that's where I came up with that definition. It was during that time. It clicked with me that it wasn't like the things that I thought were going to make me happy. And what's really cool about that story is that once I fucking twisted that around in my brain and realized it, then I realized that making money was actually pretty easy. It was just executing on what I'm interested in and passionate about.

You see what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. Because I was fulfilled by doing those things. So when I start, you know, like even this podcast, like I say all the time, I do this for free. But the truth is it's opened up so many different income opportunities for me. I mean, dude, I've got a new business partner in M.I. Lett. We're doing fucking, you know, we're building a couple different things together on a big scale. You know, I've been able to go speak at some of

the most amazing conferences ever put on. I spoke at some shitty ones too, but you know, I've met some awesome people and some awesome friends and some great entrepreneur friends. I've become close with some people that I really used to look up to in terms of like untouchable for me. And they're peers now. They're peers. Yeah. You know, and that all, that came from doing this for free because i felt good about doing it you see what i'm saying yeah man and that's i never we we dude people don't believe this but we never started this shit with an intent

to sell anything nope you know what i'm saying but it's it's and we don't sell anything on the on the show something we've always done. We've never sold anything. Buy level one bars. But here's the thing. What we have done... Did you catch my little thing there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did.

So that's about the most selling I'll do on the show. Otis and Charlie, but that's different. Yeah, that's right. Otis and Charlie. But, you know... Which the profit margins on that are like razor thin. That's nothing. So, yeah.

It's like a free thing. That's more of a charity thing that you might make a few bucks for, well, I was going to say coffee, but you don't drink coffee. No. Yeah. I do when I'm on 75 hard. Yeah. I drink instead of beer.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good. But just like when I go out with my friends and they're all drinking and I want to hang out with them, I'll just drink coffee. Yeah. Like caffeine free coffee. Yeah.

Cause you kind of drink at the same pace. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you feel like you could sit there for like two, three hours. See, that's being creative. Yeah. You could sit there for like two or three hours without being bored.

Yeah. You know? Yeah, for sure. Um, but dude, uh, I don't know. I just feel like, you know, when you start things for the right reasons and follow through on them, good shit happens, man. You know, just to tease out a detail of that story you've told before is I do remember that your thought process was like you were looking at other guys and going, well, I'm killing it compared to them. And I think I remember you saying that you had this aha moment where you're

like, yeah, but success is not a comparison. Like you are the measure of your own true success. You can't, because I think you were talking about it. That's why I tell people, bro, when they say, hey man, congrats on all the success. I always tell them, you guys know what I say, Tyler, what do I tell them? A fucking the 10 years you've been around me. Do I ever say, hey, I don't feel successful. I'm not successful. I'm not successful, dude. I'm ever say, hey, thanks? I don't feel successful. I haven't done shit.

I'm not successful, dude. I've made a lot of money. I'm not successful. I'll be successful when I tap into my real potential, which I haven't even fucking started into yet. You mean when you discover inner peace? Yeah, exactly. But do you know,

you're a great speaker, and I think you'll understand this, but I don't speak as much as I used to, but when I was a pastor, I would come down from the pulpit and just be like, that sucked. It was terrible. Oh, yeah. And that's not how people would respond. No.

And they could never wrap their head around why I was so depressed. And they would say, like, how'd it go? And I'd say, I literally feel like I threw feces from the pulpit because I felt like that sucked so bad. And they couldn't wrap their head around it because they'd be like, no, it was awesome. No, it sucked because I knew what I was capable of and I fell so short. I feel like that every time I speak.

It doesn't matter how good I do. It doesn't matter if I burnt the motherfucker down. When I come down and I'm like, fuck, I should have said it this way. I should have done it this way. And you start like, that's champion mentality, bro. That's what people do that are high achievers. They're going to coach themselves. Like I said a minute ago, I don't have fucking a boss to tell me I sucked. Right. I got to tell me I sucked. Right. You know what I'm saying? Which I do a lot.

And that's what people don't understand. But, um, you know, I think something too, to mention in all this stuff is the platform thing, right? Like I think a lot of people think that they can't impact people. I know this is true because I talked to a lot of people at First Form who do a really good job, but they don't feel like they're really killing it because they have fucking 200 social media followers. You know what I'm saying? I don't have the platform. I don't have, I can't affect blah, blah, blah.

You know, and I think it's important to mention this too, that if you're talking about impact, man, you know what I'm saying I don't have the platform I don't have I can't affect blah blah blah you know and I think it's important to mention this too that that if you're talking about impact man um you have to understand that it's not the number of people that you impact in the world it's the percentage of people that you impact in your world okay and that's something that's people just completely miss you know they're trying to talk like well fuck dude Tony Robbins look he sold out the Staples Center or Gary Vee he's got seven million followers I can't make an impact like that bullshit you can make a better impact because when you have a huge fucking audience you don't have the time to do that one-on-one

shit that really impacts people. You know what I mean? So now you're actually at an advantage to someone who has a big audience and the fact that you could spend real time with real people and make a real difference. My favorite thing that I miss doing that I love to do was working the counter at a retail store. I love it. It's my favorite job. I say it all the time and I say it to this day in all of our companies, the number one best job that we have here, it doesn't make the most money. You can make a lot of money doing it. The number one job we have in our companies, all of them, is working the counter at a supplement

superstore retail store because you get to talk to people. You get to impact people one-on-one. They don't know who the fuck you are, really. They're not like, it's not like Instagram where they get a like or a heart or a comment or this, that. Dude, you're connecting with someone. And most of you guys right now have that right in front of your face. And you take it as if it's not valuable. And I'm telling you,

one day you are going to do what you're wanting to do and you're going to build this business and you're going to be in an office and you're going to do what I have to do, which is manage a bunch of other parts that go together to create a ecosystem. And you're going to miss that shit because that's the powerful shit, man. That's the stuff that really matters, that really makes you feel good. And every single person listening right now has the opportunity to do that. Tell me right now that if you go out and have meaningful conversations about your company, your product, or whatever it is that you do with three or four people a day, I want you to think about that versus you doing what you do mindlessly and not talking to anybody. You're going to pick the day that you had those conversations a million to one over the ones that you didn't. And dude, that's something I really miss about, about my business. Yeah. You know,

and that's, that's where you learned all your stuff, all your skills and everything. Oh, dude, no question. People ask all the time, what's the best thing I could do? Fuck, dude. Get a retail job with a company that cares about people. Yeah. But Andy, it goes back to something we've talked about in previous podcasts is that today in our day and age, we really do confuse being famous with being impactful. Just because people know your name does not mean that you're going to leave a legacy of any real value that's going to that's going to extend beyond your lifetime you know right and uh that's why you see all these famous motherfuckers trying

to write these bullshit books later on like after the shit's happened and after their buzz is gone and after the attention's gone then they're writing some bullshit biography about their life no one fucking cares anymore bro you missed your shot yeah missed your shot absolutely and gone and after the attention's gone, then they're writing some bullshit biography about their life. No one fucking cares anymore, bro. You missed your shot. Yeah. Missed your shot. Absolutely. And now you're trying to write a book so you could be relevant. Yep. And so you could be impactful because you know that you sold your fucking soul for your 15 fucking minutes, which might be 15 years. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how much money you make. It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter what you do. Your time being in the light is going to fucking end.

And when it ends, then what? Yep. Right? Yep. You're either going to have the time that the time you were in your light is either going to last forever because you made it. You did it the right way. You connected with people. You help people.

You change people. You inspire people. You are positive influence of people or the life's just going to go out and your memory is going to go out with it yep and those are the two options and if all you're living for fame is fame and fortune instead of really impacting people all i can say to you is how dare you oh fuck dude don't even get me started on that shit some guys a couple people got really pissed at me about that. And they were like, the fact that you said that girl was an actress is fucking crazy. Well, listen, if she isn't, she should be.

She may not be an actress by profession, but she is an actress by- She is fucking naturally talented. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, anyway, I couldn't resist. But, no, man. I would just say that, you know, when I was a pastor, one of the big things was if you were a youth leader or youth pastor, if you could take your kids to a really awesome missionary trip overseas in some exotic location, you were considered a really cool youth pastor. And I always used to take my kids fairly local places,

or the farthest we ever went was Chicago, and people get like, why were you doing that? I said, because reality is, if you don't truly love and serve people where you live, you're not going to truly love and serve people across the world. No. And so these people who just want this worldwide platform to feel good about themselves, listen, if you're not truly impacting the people in your own neighborhood then you're not going to sincerely want to impact people all over the world you just it's that's how it works real man the guy that lives in the fucking up your street that does all the good shit for the elderly people mows their

lawn right takes care of them uh plows your snow you know what i'm saying like that guy dude that guy's making a far bigger impact than what probably i would make on a big giant scale that would be watered down you see what i'm saying yeah no absolutely the opportunity to to make real impact is actually at its highest when you have the least amount of attention yeah and that's something that people don't like to hear but if you really want impact people, don't water it down with a lot of attention. Go through and fucking take care of the people in your circle, in your community. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And I would say people ought to get excited about it because the reality is if you really do pour yourself into the people locally, that will have a chain reaction. Yeah. But see- It will go worldwide. It will. It will. But people are full of shit.

And that's the problem. It's true. They say this shit i just want a thing so i can impact people and i want to help people when really what they're saying is i want to be fucking rich right right right but they don't want to say that because they're afraid to say that because their mom and their dad and the people around them are going to say well you know there's more things to life than money well Well, no shit, motherfucker. But impacting people on a large scale can make you a lot of money. And guess where you start to impact people on a large scale?

In your fucking backyard. Yep. Your neighbors. Your community leaders. Become a community leader. Right. Your families. Your friends.

I mean, dude, people are looking past the opportunity right in front of them because they want the big opportunity that's down the road right and because they pass the opportunity right in front of them they never get the reps to learn how to properly do this shit at scale so let's say if you did really want to impact people and you want to be and we see this all the time how many people on Instagram are trying to pretend like they got all the fucking answers, right? They have never built anything. They have never struggled.

They don't really have a story. They haven't done shit, but they're on Instagram making videos about motivation and this and that and this, this, this. The reason that your shit doesn't connect with people is because you didn't start it at the real level and learn how to truly connect. That's the problem. So when you skip the step to try to get to the fifth step where you think you should be and you think you deserve to be, you're actually discounting your skill set and taking you further away from what your ultimate goal is by ignoring the opportunity right in front of your face.

Does that make sense? Absolutely. Well, dude, you were recruited by Division I football teams. You know that when it comes to recruiting, what's the biggest embarrassment for a major program in that state to not lock up what? Their local people. Their local people. Yeah, their local athletes.

And I think it's interesting that even though First Form is a nationwide and worldwide brand, it's still probably biggest in St. Louis because you've built such a great... Dude, we have a great community here. Great community. Yeah, and you know what? I know a lot of those people by name. In fact, I know most of them by name. If I go to a fucking event, I know those people.

Right. You know what I'm saying? When I see them, I'm going to see them in a couple weeks at Fall Fest. I know those people. you know i'm saying like when i see them like i'm gonna see them on uh in a couple weeks at fall fest i know those people yeah you know i'm saying like absolutely and and dude that goes for building a business like if you can't lock down your fucking culture in your core where you live in your community you sure as fuck ain't gonna be a lock it down across the country right it ain't gonna happen so people need to stop obsessing about saving the whole world and focus on saving the people in their world and understand that dude the vet if you truly have a pure heart about impacting people like let's just say you're 100 pure i just want to fucking help people yeah

which barely anybody is people do people do exist like that i know people like that and i fucking love people like that i think it it's very, very honorable. Very few, though. Yeah. It's easier for you to do without the attention. Oh, absolutely. Without the platform. Yeah.

It's just easier to do. Like, there's people out there that are making profound impacts on other people's lives in a positive way every fucking day. Teachers, nurses, EMTs, doctors. lives in a positive way every fucking day teachers nurses emts doctors i mean dude we're talking life serious life altering situations and i'm not saying by the way most of them don't i'm saying there are people out there doing it right and they do it quietly right And do those people are some of the happiest, most fulfilled people that you could ever possibly meet. They're self-assured. They're self-confident. They know why they're here.

They know what their mission is, and they feel fucking great about it. They appreciate the recognition, but they don't need it. That's right. And you know what's funny? They're happy. Yeah.

But why are they happy? They're happy because every single day they come to work, they're putting everything they have into it. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. No, dude, I get it. Dude, your happiness and your discipline are completely aligned at all times. It's just the way it is. Absolutely. So guys, what makes your work worthwhile? It's not the job you do. It's how you do the job. It's not how much money you make. It's how much you could make, the fulfillment of your own true potential.

And then when we're talking about making an impact on the whole world, it's not the overall number of people you impact in the world. It's the people you impact in your own part of the world and focusing on that. Not being famous, not having a worldwide platform, but pouring into the people in front of you it's not overlooking people yeah you know i'm saying like dude these this person right in front of you is not less less worthy of your ability to impact them than somebody that you don't know over in africa i'm sorry right it's just reality so if you're true about wanting to impact people, which you should be,

you should start in your own backyard. You should start in your own community. Because if nothing else, if you're really doing it to impact people, you can do it more effectively. If you're doing it because you want to make money, you got to own your own territory in the first place anyway.

Right. Either way, it's what you should do and people are looking 10 steps down the road instead of focusing on all the opportunity right in front of them because they're so enamored with the flash and the cash and the fucking all the lifestyle shit that's going on right now that they feel like dude where do i even start where do i even start? Where do I even start to do this? Man, it is real easy. You see someone that needs help, help them. You see someone that could use a positive word in their life, give them a positive word. This is the shit that really matters. And guys, what happens is it builds. You want to build your fucking brand, be known in your community as the motherfucker that cares the most. That shit will translate to online. You'll start to build a community.

It will work. You're just overlooking the obvious and that has to stop if you truly want to be fulfilled and truly want to be successful in your life. Good stuff, man. Hey, I should probably know this, but is it too late to promote the RTA Live event, the RTA Syndicate Live? By this time, will that be sold out? I don't know. Maybe. No, the tickets to the public, I think, drop early next week. Okay. Yeah. So they can hop on and I'll probably post something in my story over the next couple days about getting on that list. Because most of the tickets are eaten up by people who are in Arte, and then we have a handful that are public available. But if you're in the public and you're not in Arte

and you want to come see Arte Live, which is a fucking amazing event, taught by real entrepreneurs. It's not these buzzword people. This is real shit. It's real tactical stuff. And if that's something that you're interested in doing, we'll have some tickets available, but it is something you got to be on top of right away because we sell them out in a few minutes. And guys, again, we always have new listeners. So maybe to some extent, you don't know what we're talking about, but even if you miss or are not able to attend the live event, you need to look into the RET syndicate. It's A-R-E-T-E-S-Y-N-D-I-C-A-T-E.com. We're not accepting people right now, but if you go to there and sign up-

It'd be good for them to get on the email list. Yeah. Listen, we don't spam people. We don't send out a bunch of shit. We don't try to, we don't even have anything to sell. Okay? You have to be accepted to even be in it. Yeah.

But it would be a good idea to get in touch with the community if it's something you think that you're interested in down the road just because it's in, it's just in demand.

Yep. And it's just so, it's very hard to even describe what it is, so just go to the website and check it out. What else, dude? I think that's it, man. Got to remind these people, pay the fee.

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