Real Dictators - General Videla Part 1: The Skinny One and the Witch

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

Argentina. The story of a gaunt, hawkish man who earned the nickname “the Hitler of the Pampa”. A man whose awkward bearing belied his capacity for cruelty. A dictator who literally stole the chil...dren of his prisoners. In 1925, Jorge Rafael Videla is born into a country at a crossroads. But no one can imagine just how deeply he will impact Argentina over the next 87 years… A Noiser production, written by John Bartlett. Many thanks to Edward Brudney, Robert Cox, Marguerite Feitlowitz, Francesca Lessa, Ernesto Semán. This is Part 1 of 4. Get every episode of Real Dictators a week early with Noiser+. You’ll also get ad-free listening, bonus material and early access to shows across the Noiser network. Click the Noiser+ banner to get started. Or, if you’re on Spotify or Android, go to noiser.com/subscriptions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 In La Floresta, a quiet neighbourhood in the west of the city, is an old mechanic's garage. Inside, on the small back patio, an officer leans against the wall. He strikes a match and quickly cups a trembling hand around the glowing tip of a cigarette. Around him, the wind tears at the bed linen and boiler suits strung up on washing lines. They crisscross the patio, casting eerie shadows. His sweater is streaked with grease and blood. Inside the workshop, a radio is turned up so loud that the pounding music is damaging the speaker. Machinery whirls and gears grind. Occasionally an anguished scream pierces the din, and the officer flinches.
Starting point is 00:01:41 and the officer flinches. This is Automotores Oleti. Until recently, it was a working garage. Now it's a makeshift torture center, run by plainclothes operatives from the Argentine Secret Service, the State Intelligence Secretariat, or SIDE. Aiding them is a ragtag band of common criminals and anti-communists. Anibal Gordon, the chief thug, has a picture of Adolf Hitler, no less, pinned on the wall
Starting point is 00:02:18 in the dirty upstairs room he uses as an office. A radio crackles into life. A new prisoner has arrived. The officer finishes his cigarette with a long final drag. He then makes his way to the front of the garage, weaving between his colleagues' barely conscious victims, their hair and clothes matted with blood, oil and dirt. Chassis and car parts are strewn across the floor. The officer raises the shutter to let in a bottle green Ford Falcon. A man is bound and blindfolded on the back seat.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Their next victim. victim. Argentina is wracked by guerrilla warfare and extremist political violence. Until recently, bombings and assassinations were frequent. The officer tells himself, torture and interrogation are necessary if order is to be restored and subversives rooted out. This is the country on the brink of civil war and in General Jorge Rafael Videla's Argentina, dissent must be crushed. Across five years of terror and bloody repression, Videla, a hawkish, gaunt military man, ruled Argentina with unprecedented brutality. A brutality which earned him the moniker, the Hitler of the Pampa. But Videla was not your conventional personalistic dictator.
Starting point is 00:04:04 His awkward bearing and discomfort in the limelight belied his capacity for cruelty. In a relatively short time, he oversaw the bloodiest of South America's 20th century dictatorships. Having executed a coup d'etat and assumed the de facto presidency of Argentina in March 1976, Videla put his self-proclaimed national reorganization process into action. Following decades of unrest, he would stop at nothing to install order. As many as 30,000 men, women and children were murdered or disappeared by his regime, around ten times greater than those killed during Pinochet's dictatorship in neighboring Chile. In these episodes, we'll reveal how an unassuming young
Starting point is 00:04:52 soldier turned into a tyrant, how the World Cup of 1978 was used to mask Fidel's atrocities, and hear from individuals directly affected by his regime. Argentina, whose history is scarred by regular military interventions, is still reckoning with the horror of what is sometimes referred to grimly as its latest dictatorship. From the Noiser Network, this is part one of the Videla story. And this is Real Dictators. Argentina is the eighth largest country in the world, a vast and varied tract of land at the bottom of South America. In the north, salt flats and desert plains stretch towards Bolivia, and tropical jungles run up to Brazil and Paraguay.
Starting point is 00:06:20 The wide, windswept Pampas reach down to Tierra del Fuego at the southernmost tip of the continent. The Andes, South America's jagged backbone, rise up to the west, separating Argentina from Chile and the Pacific Ocean. It is a land of plenty and potential, which, for many, remains largely unfulfilled. potential, which for many remains largely unfulfilled. Edward Brodny is an assistant professor of history at the University of Tennessee, where he studies labor movements in late 20th century Argentina. So there is a quote from a Nobel laureate in economics from, I think, the late 70s. The gist of it is that there are four kinds of countries in the world, countries where things work, countries where things don't work,
Starting point is 00:07:08 Japan and Argentina. And his argument was Japan was a country where things worked and no one understood why, and Argentina was a country where things didn't work and no one understood why. It's the turn of the 20th century in Buenos Aires, Argentina's frenetic, mesmerizing capital. The city is already an immense metropolis at the mouth of the river plate. It's the cultural heart of the Spanish-speaking world. Parisian facades ring shaded squares, alive at Tango and Boleros. The wealthy reside in tall apartment buildings, reminiscent of Belle Epoque Europe, which
Starting point is 00:07:57 stand on wide boulevards lined with cherry blossom in the spring. European architects and designers are flocking to the city to leave their mark, bestowing it with a dizzying mix of styles. Even Gustave Eiffel, whose tower now looms over the French capital, has instructed his workshop to cast girders for a new build in Buenos Aires. Near the city's port is the large open square known as the Plaza de Mayo. There the evening sun shines on the Casa Rosada, Argentina's presidential palace. The building bathes passers-by in a warm glow. Allegedly it owes its soft pink hue to animals' blood mixed into the plaster during
Starting point is 00:08:46 a 19th century renovation. Close by, the Teatro Colón is the finest theater in South America. They say its acoustics are among the best in the world. There's symphonies, there's arts, there's museums. It is a very wealthy city, a very wealthy developed city. It is, depending on what source you read, the 7th or 8th or 10th richest country in the world, that it's above France, that it's above Canada, that it has this incredibly bright future ahead of it, that it is on the point of becoming essentially
Starting point is 00:09:20 the United States of South America. Why it doesn't come to fruition is the great question of Argentine history. Argentina had been seen as a backwater in early Spanish colonial times, overlooked as a barren expanse, largely devoid of gold or silver. Swathes of land were left untouched by colonizers. But, after independence from Spain in 1816, the country began to flourish. The Pampa, Argentina's fertile temperate grasslands, were ideal for agriculture. Soon they were crossed by British-built railroads
Starting point is 00:10:04 that sent goods to Buenos Aires for export to fuel the Industrial Revolution. Within 50 years, Argentina had accrued astonishing wealth. Now in the early 1900s, it's the world's leading exporter of refrigerated meat and one of the most important producers of maize, oats, linseed, wheat and flour. It's become the 11th largest exporting nation overall with a modern vibrant economy. It even has more cars per inhabitant than Great Britain. Ernesto Semane is a historian of 20th century Argentina at the University of Bergen in Norway. Under specific ways, specific numbers,
Starting point is 00:10:56 you can say that it was one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Agricultural products, mostly beef and wheat, turned the Argentine pampas into a sort of a global resource. This surge is also driven by large-scale immigration, mostly from Italy, Spain and Central Europe. Railroad and dock workers, as well as employees at the meatpacking plants and slaughterhouses, form collectives and unions flourish the country has achieved parity with the united states in terms of per capita income and by 1913 is at the same level as western europe argentina it seems can do no wrong Argentina, it seems, can do no wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It's early August 1925. A bitter winter's day in Mercedes, a small town a hundred kilometers west of the capital. Local army official, Rafael Eugenio Videla, and his wife, Maria Olga Redondo, are expecting their third child. And yet, they're alone in the house. Their firstborns, twins, Jorge and Rafael, arrived in 1922 to the devoted Pius couple. They weren't yet a year old when they both succumbed to a measles epidemic which swept the plains.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Holding her stomach, Maria shifts onto a low chair in the corner of the downstairs living room. Her husband watches her nervously. A cold wind rattles the window panes in their narrow townhouse. Their third son is born on August 2nd, 1925. They call him Jorge Rafael, the names of the twin brothers he never met. Bedella's born in 1925, and he kind of comes into an Argentina that is sort of in flux. The immigration has dramatically changed the makeup of the national character. There are these fears about what it means to be Argentine, about the loss of a specifically
Starting point is 00:13:19 Argentine identity. And Bedell is born into a military family, and the military from the end of the 19th century are one of the key political players. The Videla family are Catholic and conservative. They're prominent in the central San Luis area of Argentina. Jorge Rafael's grandfather was a provincial governor there at the end of the 19th century, and several relatives have held positions in national politics. Rafael, his father, is austere and correct. He joined the National Military Academy in 1910,
Starting point is 00:13:56 and it's said that he rarely takes off his uniform, even at the dinner table. His mother Olga was orphaned at an early age and is devoutly religious. After the tragic death of their twins, the couple keep a watchful eye over Jorge Rafael. 5,000 miles away, a sudden shockwave emanates from Wall Street. The 1929 crash of New York's stock exchange reverberates across the globe,
Starting point is 00:14:33 hitting hard in numerous countries, including Argentina. As a nation that had grown wealthy on the bounty of its national resources and post-war demand for its goods, Argentina now has deep economic ties to much of the world. And even before this seismic economic shock, the country's finances had started to nosedive. The Depression is already looming and by some measures has already started in Latin America.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So the post-World War I commodities boom that helps drive a lot of this foreign investment and a lot of this early industrial development has ended by 1925. And so there is a kind of looming crisis. We often associate the Depression with 1929 because that's when the stock market crashes in New York. But for a lot of people in Europe, in the Americas,
Starting point is 00:15:24 the Depression has already begun by the mid-1920s. At this point, Argentina is governed by a strain of politics known as radicalism, espoused by President Ippolito Yrigoyen. Yrigoyen is a complex figure who champions the working classes and fights for the expansion of suffrage, beliefs that make him unpopular with the more traditional in the country. As Argentina veers away from its prosperous path, the armed forces are itching to intervene
Starting point is 00:15:55 and reimpose more conservative values across the country. On September the 6th, 1930, Lieutenant Rafael Videla, Jorge Rafael's father, leads his Mercedes sixth infantry into Buenos Aires. It's one of several companies that play a key role in Argentina's first coup d'état of the 20th century. They march into the Plaza de Mayo and take the Casa Rosada, the presidential palace, where they're mobbed by cheering crowds. The military outlaw political parties, annul local elections, and suspend the constitution. Jorge Rafael Videla is just five years old when his father plays his part in overthrowing
Starting point is 00:16:51 the elected government. He grows in an authoritarian moment, a nationalist view of Argentina as a global superpower that should compete with the U.S. for the control, for the geopolitical control of the region, for the control of natural resources. Against the backdrop of domestic instability, young Videla quietly gets on with his education. After completing his primary schooling in Mercedes, he enrolls in the Colegio San Jose in Buenos Aires in 1937, where the Basque friars have a reputation
Starting point is 00:17:32 for strictness and discipline. All of the men on Videla's mother's side are alumni. The boys sleep in long dormitories supervised by a priest at each end and are up at 6am, attending a half-hour mass before classes begin. Fidel's classmates call him el Flaco, the skinny one. He's timid, hardworking and introverted.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Schoolmasters say he's good across the board, with a fastidiousness for following the rules, qualities that would be well suited to the military. Wiry and shy, Fidele takes the bus home at weekends, where he hangs out around the swimming pool at the town's male-only country club. He isn't prone to making close friends, crossing paths with his contemporaries only when traversing the town square after mass on Sunday mornings. Faith is already central to his worldview. Fidelio's family push him towards a medical career, but nothing will dissuade the young Jorge Rafael from joining the army.
Starting point is 00:18:44 career, but nothing will dissuade the young Jorge Rafael from joining the army. He enrolls in the National Military College in March 1942 at the age of 16. So fixated is he on military discipline that he receives another nickname, the cadet. Fidelis is a world of routine and order, but beyond the high walls of his school Things couldn't be more different Ever since the military took power in 1930 Argentina has lurched into a rollercoaster Of electoral fraud, corruption and turmoil The country teeters on the brink of civil war more than once. It's known as the
Starting point is 00:19:27 infamous decade. Between the coup of 1930 and the summer of 1943, the presidency passes no fewer than four times. With civilian rule in turmoil again, and desperate to reassert order, on June 4, 1943, the military seizes power once more. Among the officers now in charge is one key figure, a man whose influence on Argentine politics lingers to this day. A man of charisma and contradictions. His name is Colonel Juan Domingo Perón. Historian Marguerite Feitlowitz is the author of A Lexicon of Terror. Perón was totally contradictory, right?
Starting point is 00:20:16 He was a populist. He was a strong man. Unions thrived under Perón, but so too did far right-wing union leaders. So you have sort of everything and its opposite under Perón. Perón is appointed labor minister under the new military government. It's supposed to be a relatively minor position, but it doesn't work out that way. As part of his military training, Perón spends some time with the northern Italian regiments and even Hitler's Wehrmacht, and he speaks glowingly of fascism's ability to mobilize the masses. He has a talent for oration and connects with the working classes, garnering huge support
Starting point is 00:20:59 on visits around the country with his message of total social justice. It's all too much for his colleagues. around the country with his message of total social justice. It's all too much for his colleagues. Perón's popularity becomes feared, and in 1945, he is arrested and sent up the river plate to Martín García Island, a dank prison in the middle of the estuary. But a movement has already formed, and the tide cannot be turned. The working class population of Argentina
Starting point is 00:21:30 rallies to his cause. They march on the Plaza de Mayo where the house of government is. They occupy the plaza and they demand his release. And the government gets spooked and essentially bends to these demands, exceeds to these demands. And so Perón is freed and he comes out on the evening of October 17th slash 18th that night
Starting point is 00:21:52 and gives this very famous speech from the balcony of the Casa Rosada to his supporters who have flooded the Plaza de Mayo. And that's the point where Peronism, in retrospect, became a movement. in retrospect, became a movement. In 1946, Perón is elected president, with huge support from working and lower-middle-class citizens. Peronism becomes the all-encompassing, defining force of Argentina's new political era. He is able to draw upon support from the armed forces, labor unions and the Catholic Church. Perón brings the political poles together at his rallies. What follows is an unprecedented populist redistribution of income and wealth.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Illiterate workers from remote provinces in the interior went over a period of three or four months from cutting sugar cane in Tucumán to representing the country in the Argentine embassy in Paris. You know, the most prestigious and elitist part of the government, the foreign service, suddenly invaded by these people. So it's a process of power and wealth redistribution unseen before in history. Industry and agriculture begin to provide for Argentina rather than the export markets. 80% of the cattle and grain produced is now consumed domestically. A series of nationalizations and price and rent fixing
Starting point is 00:23:26 follow, increasing the government's role in the economy. Workers are given new rights and guarantees. Suddenly, instead of having to negotiate in a very unequal position, your vacations with your employer have a right for 20 days of vacations, and suddenly you have the resources to do something in those 20 days, and suddenly you have a hotel paid by the government, which you can use that time and that money. He grabs the power of government for transforming people's lives, and he's able to express that in a relatable way. to express that in a relatable way.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Argentina is cleaved in two, with Peronists and anti-Peronists either side of a fierce divide. But amidst the polarization, Jorge Rafael Videla stays non-committal. At the start of 1948, he graduates from the military academy and gains the rank of captain, and it seems he's quite happy to remain detached from the debate around the latest president. I never considered myself anti-Peronist, he says later, but I wasn't one of those whose hair stood on end with Peronism either, nor did I consider them enemies. Besides, for Fidelia, now 22 years old, there are more important things to focus on than politics. He takes a summer holiday to the mountain resort of El Trapiche. It's here that he meets a young woman called Alicia Raquel Hartridge.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Her Anglo-Argentine father is ambassador to Turkey. On April 7, 1948, they marry. They will have seven children, two of whom will go on to join the army themselves. children, two of whom will go on to join the army themselves. Not long after his wedding, Fidela returns to the military academy at El Palomar, this time as an instructor. In just four years, he rises to become head of the college. But he's still known as the cadet, such is his steadfast, almost juvenile commitment to martial values.
Starting point is 00:25:48 When his father dies suddenly in 1952, Videla fills the void by becoming even further entrenched in the two institutions that have guided his life so far, the Catholic Church and the armed forces. Also in 1952, Perón is duly re-elected by a margin of more than 30%. But by now, political favouritism and the mass detention of his opponents is generating mistrust and unrest. His second wife, Maria Eva Duarte, better known simply as Evita, is his secret weapon. Charismatic and poised, Evita is adored and reviled in equal measure. Although she never holds a formal position in her husband's government,
Starting point is 00:26:42 she works extensively with the poorest Argentines through her foundation. She is also a champion of women's rights, and with her vociferous support, universal suffrage in Argentina is achieved during Perón's first term. And so, when Evita succumbs to cancer in July 1952, the country is rocked. Her absence is keenly felt, and the Peronist movement is left in the lurch. As Peron becomes increasingly authoritarian, and without his wife by his side, his popularity plummets. Rampant inflation and economic instability take hold. Rampant inflation and economic instability take hold. Agricultural productivity declines and droughts cause Argentina to lose harvests.
Starting point is 00:27:39 All the while, Perón is trying to enforce the separation of church and state, a controversial move which incurs the ire of influential Catholic leaders. a controversial move which incurs the ire of influential Catholic leaders. The president is weakened and, yet again, rebellion is in the air. On June 16, 1955, navy warplanes soar over Buenos Aires, wailing through the air, showering the crowded city centre with bombs. It's step one of the army's so-called Liberating Revolution. Infantry divisions are soon on the ground, marching on the presidential palace and clashing with loyalist troops. Peron supporters rally, taking up arms for their under siege president. With huge numbers now gathering in and around the Place de Marjol, the warplanes soar overhead
Starting point is 00:28:32 again, bombing and strafing the crowds. Following this bloody day, 308 bodies are identified, the majority are civilians, six are children. Peron survives the attack, but the writing is on the wall. And just two months later, in September 1955, the army successfully seizes power and forces the president into exile. Peronism is swiftly banned, and Argentina, once more, is left shaken and unstable. In 1955, journalist Robert Cox arrives in Argentina on the Highland Monarch, a steamer built by the dockyards which had launched the Titanic. He takes a junior position at English-language newspapers
Starting point is 00:29:32 at Buenos Aires Herald, arriving into a country at a crossroads. Arriving there, Argentina, you could sense that things were not going as well as certainly the newspaper hoped. They sent me a wonderful letter explaining that they were very hopeful that finally they were out of Peronism, which was a popular dictatorship, and they thought that things would move ahead and Argentina would become a democracy. But Peron's exile has a rather different effect.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Political instability is rife, and social uprisings accompany the formation of guerrilla groups. The Montoneros, a Peronist guerrilla group, issue a call to arms. They demand Perón's return to Argentina. Almost immediately that I arrived, I found myself covering revolutions or coups or attempted revolutions.
Starting point is 00:30:30 The Montenegrins tried to build an army. They had little arms factories hidden in the basement of ordinary houses. They stole arms when they could, and they were terribly maligned by the military in their propaganda so that people believed that they were terribly maligned by the military in their propaganda, so that people believed that they were inhuman people. And that made it very easy to decide to make them disappear, if they could, and created this appalling situation in Argentina.
Starting point is 00:31:00 The People's Revolutionary Army, the ERP, springs out of the far left of Argentine politics. They carry out their own wanton terror program, independent of the Montoneros. Right-wing groups emerge from Peronism too, just as willing to employ intimidation and violence. Perón is in exile in Spain, watched over by his host, Francisco Franco. From there, Perón is doing all he can to make Argentina
Starting point is 00:31:32 ungovernable in his absence, giving and then withdrawing his backing for each faction in turn. He is the puppet master, fueling the fires of chaos. Videla, meanwhile, continues to keep himself largely removed from the disorder that grips his country. In 1956 he is sent to the US as an attache at the Inter-American Defense Board, a security organization promoting cooperation between the countries of the Americas. He even gets to observe a nuclear test out in the Nevada desert, a sign of the
Starting point is 00:32:11 Cold War tensions pervading Washington. After 18 months Fidelio returns to Argentina with anti-communist ideas entrenched. He's promoted to the rank of Major. With leftist insurgencies springing up in different parts of South America, the U.S. takes a keen interest. They cannot afford to let communist ideas flourish in the continent, and they need allies on the ground. McNamara, Robert McNamara, who was the Minister of Defense, is very clear. He says, we need friends. We need to educate those friends. We need to pick from amongst the best and brightest in the military academies,
Starting point is 00:32:59 and we need to train them. We need them to see things our way. Fidela is one such friend, handpicked by the US in 1964 to attend the infamous School of the Americas. Its supplies counterinsurgency training to those put forward for its programs. Francesca Lessa is an academic at University College London
Starting point is 00:33:22 and the author of The Condor Trials. The national security doctrine, that was the doctrine guiding the actions of the US in the context of the Cold War, so the confrontation with the Soviet Union. And that was spread across the rest of the Americas. That was the backyard, or the US at least considered it to be its backyard. And so that was the doctrine that they were spreading across the region, also through the training of, I think, potentially 60,000 military and police officers from Latin American countries that received training at the School of the Americas,
Starting point is 00:34:03 receiving training in the national security doctrine, but also in what they euphemistically called counterinsurgency doctrine and counterinsurgency interrogations, which was effectively torture. With this training under his belt, Fidelio is promoted to brigadier general in 1971. Meanwhile, the armed forces step back from government,
Starting point is 00:34:29 chastened and unpopular after yet another period of military rule. Elections are called for March 1973. Perón begins scheming. He will return to Argentina under a loyal stand-in, who will then resign in order for him to take back power. He anoints Hector Campora as his interim choice for the presidency, who duly wins with some 49% of the vote. The stage is set for Perón's triumphant homecoming. It's June the 20th, 1973,
Starting point is 00:35:17 and crowds are gathering at Ezeiza International Airport on the edge of Buenos Aires. They're saying three and a half million people are on their way. They've crossed rivers, traipsed over fields, and marched from the city centre, all converging for the one moment they've been waiting for. It's cold on the runway, but excitement warms the growing congregation. On every wall, stanchion, and pillar along the tarmac, the initials PV have been sprayed, scratched or painted. They stand for Perón Vuelve, Perón Returns. Somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean, the homecoming hero is aboard a jet, accompanied by President Campora and an assortment of loyalists.
Starting point is 00:36:06 a jet accompanied by President Campora and an assortment of loyalists. After 18 years in exile, he's finally nearing Argentine shores. Back at the airport, the enormous crowd seems to just keep growing. Banners ripple in the wind and joyous chanting fills the air. And then, quite suddenly, there's a flurry of strange sounds. Bangs, pings, zips. From a raised platform, camouflaged snipers of open fire. Their bullets skid off the tarmac, crashing into roadside barriers. Others meet flesh with a sickening thud.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Bewildered shouts fill the air as bodies hit the ground. The right wing of the Peronist movement has opened fire on the crowd. It's an ambush. The left-wing Peronist youth and under Montaneros have been targeted and trapped. People run for what little cover they can find. The two sides of the movement have been exposed. Peronism and Argentina is at war with itself. Nobody knows how many people were killed. Estimates are between 200 and 500.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Really nobody knows, but I know people who were there who saw bodies hanging from trees. It was a very bloody and terrible homecoming for those who had been awaiting Perón. Despite the chaos, Kampora steps aside as agreed, and Juan Perón completes Despite the chaos, Campora steps aside as agreed and Juan Perón completes his return to the presidency when he's sworn in on October 12, 1973. His third wife, María Estela Martínez de Perón,
Starting point is 00:37:58 becomes his vice-president. She had worked as a nightclub dancer in the early 1950s, adopting the name Isabel. Now she's known affectionately as Isabelita, Little Isabel. On May 1st, 1974, the Peronists converge on the Plaza de Mayo for the Workers' Day celebrations. The atmosphere is febrile. for the workers' day celebrations. The atmosphere is febrile.
Starting point is 00:38:28 As Perón launches into one of his passionate monologues, the Montoneros guerrilla groups stage a protest. They are furious that their leader has seemingly abandoned the left of the party. The president loses his cool. And during this speech, the Montoneros, in a a coordinated action turn their backs on peron so they turn their flags around they turn their backs on him in a gesture of disapproval of his proximity to the right-wing faction or what they see as the right-wing faction in a gesture of disapproval to their perception that he has betrayed the revolutionary impulses of Peronism that they have been reading into the movement for the last five to ten years. Perón, very angry at this disrespect, insults them,
Starting point is 00:39:13 calls them children, tells them to grow up, and effectively expels them from this big tent of Peronism. Not for the first time, Argentina is in turmoil. The Montaneros are forced underground. Guerrilla battles and civilian violence erupt. Perón responds with a crackdown on the agitators. But just as he's getting along with his latest restructuring of the movement, everything is stopped in its tracks. In the middle of 1974, Juan Perón suffers a series of heart attacks and dies.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Quite suddenly, the most powerful man in Argentina, a man whose personality has shaped the country for 30 years, is gone. The people who had never liked Perron or anything, had detested him, tears poured out. There was a kind of unconscious realization that something important had happened in that way. The future not certain at all. When Perron died, the chief union guy of the printers came to me and said,
Starting point is 00:40:25 well, your paper has to have nothing but news about Peron. I said, well, the weather forecast? No, not even the weather forecast. That was the feeling. I mean, there was so much bound up in him. The presidency is left to his wife and vice president, Isabelita. Largely lacking in political experience, she is wholly unprepared for the role. The situation quickly becomes untenable. Isabelita takes over. She's calamitous in every way. Inflation was rising at 30% a month.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Exports were down 25%. In 1974, it had a deficit of $1 billion. I mean, today, a billion here, a billion there. It doesn't seem like that much money. But then it was really staggering. There hadn't been such inflation since Weimar. Meanwhile, Isababel has struck up a deeply unpopular relationship with a dark and mysterious occultist named José López Rega. He is a retired policeman
Starting point is 00:41:33 and one-time aspiring singer. Rega was meandering through life in the 1960s as he filled his afternoons with card games and smug-filled clubs. He would lecture anyone who'd listen about the occult. But his luck changed when he met Isabelita
Starting point is 00:41:51 at a secret event for spiritualists supporting Perón. She took a liking to him, and he travelled to Spain in 1965 to live with the couple as their spiritual guide. Now Isabelita is president, López Rego is appointed minister for social welfare. He sets up his desk in the hallway leading to her office, where he is the gatekeeper to power.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He's known as El Brujo, the witch. He develops this relationship with Isabel, who is apparently susceptible to or interested in the occult and so the two of them build this relationship that is based around dark magic for lack of a better term. Fortune-telling, omens, a lot of interesting ideas about how the world works and about how to manipulate the world around them. And he becomes a very influential figure. He wields a tremendous amount of influence over Isabel. López-Ruega, he was power mad. He's been likened to Rasputin. I think that Isabelita was
Starting point is 00:43:00 both his opportunity, his shield, and because she was so incompetent, it left him a lot of room to maneuver. With leftist guerrilla groups carrying out assassinations and attacks, López Rega assembles a paramilitary death squad. It is dubbed the Argentine Anti-Communist Alliance, or AAA. Argentine Anti-Communist Alliance, or Triple A. This group of criminals and ideologues employ brutal extralegal violence to eliminate what they identify as the internal enemy that has infiltrated Peronism. They carry out 503 political murders in the first year of Isabelita's presidency, embarking on a mission for purification. With the situation deteriorating further still,
Starting point is 00:43:54 rumors abound in the barracks and mess halls that the military is ready to step in once again. Surely they cannot allow the country to be run in this way by Isabelita and her occultist crony. This gave the military a kind of a perfect foil. He was mystical, he was volatile, he was theatrical, he was weird, right? And so they would be gentlemanly, they would be rational, they would be logical. Sooner or later, a general would take over.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And there was a saying in Argentina that every officer in the army has the presidential baton in his rucksack. They're bound to come in. In Buenos Aires, urban warfare rages and terror is indiscriminate. Cinema queues are targeted, and busy shopping centres are bombed by the ERP and the Montoneros. Fear has trickled into every facet of Argentine society, and nobody feels safe. The paramilitary AAA has taken to displaying the bodies of its victims in public. Corpses riddled with bullet holes are strewn in the streets,
Starting point is 00:45:08 and left-wing activists appear in parking lots, bound with wire or burned in their cars. They likely claim more than 1,000 victims, all orchestrated by López Rega. orchestrated by Lopez Rega. Meanwhile, guerrilla groups forced underground by the split in Peronism embark on violent campaigns of their own. Between 1975 and 1976, 293 servicemen and policemen are killed in left-wing terrorist incidents. That period was awful, absolutely awful, with terrorism rising and people got very afraid and so you have the element of fear coming into Argentina and the fear is very very strong. The fear of communist takeover, yes there was a fear of that and that made life very difficult. At one point in March 1975, 25 murders are carried out across 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:46:09 The victims are from both the left and the right. With the situation spiralling out of her control, Isabelita turns to the armed forces. And it's here that Videla finally comes to the fore. On September 3rd, 1975, Isabelita takes a decisive step. She appoints Videla commander-in-chief of the army. True to form, the general is seemingly the voice of calm and moderation within the military the officers around him are clamoring for the armed forces to put an end to isabelita's inept peronist government but fidelia thirst urges caution the armed forces do not want to intervene until there is no alternative, for whatever reason he declares.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It will be long before those conditions are met. Isabelita issues two decrees in October of 1975. One which calls for, and I'll quote, eradication of subversive elements. So that's pretty clear, right? And then the other authorizes the military to exercise functions of a non-military character, such as psychological operations, such as fill in the blank, right? And the country is essentially under siege. The country is organized.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Each part of the country comes under the control of a particular army corps. The country is essentially under occupation, if you will. One of the decrees specifically targets the northern province of Tukuman, where the ERP guerrilla group has established a breakaway zone in the jungle. They hope to found a separate state, which could be recognized internationally. In their makeshift camps, they pose for photos in front of the ERP's flag, fist raised, cloth caps perched on their heads. They now control about a third of the entire province.
Starting point is 00:48:29 They've managed to pull together hundreds of sympathizers from among the plantation workers. So Tucuman, which is in the Argentine northwest, is a province that is heavily agricultural and has a big sugar industry. And in the early 1970s, there is a growing movement among sugar workers in defense of better rights, better wages, better working conditions against the kind of exploitative labor practices that have for centuries defined sugar production. There is increasing unrest, there are strikes, there are demonstrations, there are clashes with police.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And this happens to be going on right at the same moment that the ERP is trying to expand its footprint in the mountainous region of Tucuman. The responsibility for restoring order in this region falls on General Videla. These terrorists cannot be allowed to grow any stronger. In the jungle the army's trucks bounce down mud tracks, helicopters rattle overhead, searchlights stalking the forest canopy. Operation Independence, as the mission to reclaim to command is known, is in full swing. This is the first time that General Videla has exercised his supreme authority over the
Starting point is 00:49:49 army. Success here would be a big statement, a big victory for the new commander in chief. In reality, the leftist guerrillas here are now small in number and poorly equipped, while Videla has sent thousands of heavily armed soldiers to command. He is about to use a very large sledgehammer to crush a rather small nun. By 1975, the guerrilla threat in Argentina had essentially been liquidated. At its height, the guerrilla movements had 2,000 people, of whom 400 had access to arms. It wasn't a war. It was asymmetrical in the extreme. The Argentine military had generally unleashed itself on an unarmed, self-defined enemy. The armed forces act in conjunction with the police and AAA
Starting point is 00:50:48 to brutally suppress the uprising in Tucumán. Different arms of state power acting as one. The fighters are tortured, sexually assaulted, and then murdered en masse. It's a bloody foreshadowing of what's to come. Isabelita's decrees have effectively militarized Argentina, putting the country on a war footing. But in trying to shore up her authority,
Starting point is 00:51:16 she has in fact paved the way for yet another coup d'etat. General Videla has taken his first step towards eradicating so-called subversive elements. Bolstered by this early success, and recognizing the chaotic leadership of Isabelita and her spiritualist right-hand man, he starts making moves. In May 1975, Videla covertly begins to organize a group of officials to seize power. Isabelita, feeling the pressure, requests a leave of absence. She isn't seen for a month. The leader of the Senate is put in interim control.
Starting point is 00:51:56 But it's General Videla and the heads of the Air Force and the Navy who are really in charge. People under Isabelita were praying for a coup. Okay, life was unlivable. It was dangerous, it was impossible in every kinds of ways. On July the 11th, a vast demonstration sees López Rega, her closest ally, resign and flee the country. One by one, Isabelita's ministers
Starting point is 00:52:24 are following him into exile too. Everybody knows that her days in office are numbered. It's all anyone can talk about. Congress is all but empty. Advisors are staying clear of the Casa Rosada, and desks have been cleared. By now, General Videla, plus the heads of the Navy and the Air Force, have been working on their plan to seize power for almost a year. If the Argentine situation demands it, Videla declares at a military conference in Uruguay, all necessary persons must die to achieve the security of the country. He'll be as good as his word. Five days later, he signs a secret decree which confirms the division of the country into four military zones
Starting point is 00:53:16 and creates a nationwide intelligence network with military personnel at the very top. Every detail of Operation Ares is in place. General Videla is ready to lead Argentina's sixth military takeover of the 20th century. It's just before midnight on March 23, 1976. March 23, 1976. President Isabel Perón sits nervously on the edge of a plush sofa in her lavish quarters in the Casa Rosada. A shrill bell startles her.
Starting point is 00:53:55 She hurries over to the phone to answer the call. Tonight is the night. She nods quickly and then drops the receiver. Frantic and wide-eyed, she gathers her belongings from cabinets and dressing tables, leaving behind strings of pearls dangling from drawers and wardrobes half open. Hastily she makes her way up a staircase to the roof of the presidential palace. A helicopter is waiting, just as agreed. Its blades begin to thud and whirl. She runs over and ducks
Starting point is 00:54:34 into the passenger seat. She will be taken to the haven of the Olivos presidential residence, a short way north of the Casa Rosada. They take to the skies, and the twinkling lights of the city below rush past faster and faster. The pilot makes Isabelita jump with a crackled message. She clamps her headphones tightly over her ears and stares at him in horror. There is a minor fault with the helicopter, he explains. They won't be landing at the residence after all They're going to an airfield which is a little closer When the helicopter lands, representatives of the army, navy and air force are waiting for her
Starting point is 00:55:18 They arrest her, then make a brief call through to their superiors The Casa Rosada is empty, they can make their move They arrest her, then make a brief call through to their superiors. The Casa Rosada is empty. They can make their move. The armed forces take the palace in a bloodless coup. No resistance is offered. Two hours later, regular transmissions are cut and replaced by a military march. Flanked by a huddle of stern-faced men in uniform, Videla sits before a bank of microphones
Starting point is 00:55:52 to announce the beginning of a national reorganization process. His face is gaunt and his cheeks hollow. People are advised that as of today the country is under the operational control of the General Commanders' Junta of the Armed Forces, he says calmly. We recommend strict compliance with the provisions and directives emanating from the military, security or police authorities, and to be extremely careful to avoid individual or group actions and attitudes that may require drastic intervention from the operating personnel. The transmission cuts.
Starting point is 00:56:36 After half a century of perpetual crisis, Videla wants to convey that order will finally be restored. But in reality, the horrors of his regime will outdo anything that has come before. In the next episode... Videla's dirty war begins. So-called subversives are rooted out. Torture centers are established across the land, including one known as the Argentine Auschwitz. Education, music, even children's books and haircuts are subjected to new regulations.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And as the Junta garners international attention, Fidelio will employ elaborate means to gloss over the atrocities. That's next time.

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