Real Kyper & Bourne - A Statement Callout Olympic Rink Update

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee touch on the Ottawa Senators' statement on rumours around goaltender Linus Ullmark and his personal leave of absence, before bringing on former NHL president,... general manager and head coach Doug MacLean (4:30) to get his thoughts on the Sens acknowledging online trolls. Then, Mac weighs in on whether the Maple Leafs' recent success gets them back into playoff conversations, the importance of having strong top-four defencemen on your team, Rasmus Andersson's potential landing spot in Vegas, and the Winnipeg Jets' 11-game losing streak. Then, Nick, Justin and Sam look at fresh updates on the ice rink for the Winter Olympics before ending off the week with some of your text messages! The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 All right, it's the national hour on the real Kipper and Bourne show. We are live on Sportsnet, Sportsnet 650 in Vancouver, Sportsnet 960 in Calgary, and streaming always on Sportsnet Plus. Also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and give us a thumbs up on YouTube as well. Nick Capriels, Justin Bourne, Sammy McKee, Jake the Snake Shultz, Derek Brandeil, and Ethan Ajaja. Gabor. We have Olympic arena ice news stuff. Oh, we have other things to talk about first.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Yeah. We got plenty. Jam packed. As a reminder, this hour of Real Kipprin Bourne, brought to you by Bet365. Sammy, you want some texts at the end of the show, 59590? We would love. We would love it. Doug McLean in a few minutes, but before that,
Starting point is 00:00:52 let's just touch a little bit on this Ottawa senator's story, which got worse with a thumping last night in Colorado. Yeah, poorly timed. But this all revolves around Linus Almark, who left the team December 28th, was granted a leave of absence for the Ottawa Senators. A lot of things have gone and run wild a little bit on the Internet, which forced, I guess, the Ottawa senators to come out with a statement, Sammy. They did. Would you like me to read it?
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah. Should we lay out what they're responding to before we read the statement? I mean, if you're listening to a hockey show, you probably, I'm not going to get into the details of it, but there's some pretty nasty rumors on the internet about the Ottawa senators, some teammates, all that. I'm not going to, I don't really want to give validity to it. I don't necessarily want to say it.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah, no, no, don't go there. We don't need to go there. They just need to know that they are responding to basically online. Our organization was extremely disappointed to read the completely fabricated and false stories that are spreading around social media about our hockey club. Linas is away from our team for personal reasons that he has the entire organization's support. We ask that people respect his privacy, but clearly that request was not heard by the lowest forms of trolls and sick people who scour the internet. We are disgusted that our outside forces are attempting to disrupt our hockey club.
Starting point is 00:02:22 This statement will be put an end to the ridiculous speculation that has spread online from Steve Steyos. It's crazy. Like I will just say like public organizations sounding like, you know, chat responses are crazy. This is like a new thing in the past few years that now you don't have to sound like a profession. I don't know. I feel like that can be worded in a different way, but I guess it's semantics. They're making a point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 The point is that we're backing up our player. And I get all of that. I just, I've never seen it. We've been around a long time. I was in the air of non-on online. Online? Not, yeah, exactly. And now I've seen it on the other side.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And this, I've never seen a team respond to so much to just online. And it's such a slippery slope if you want to go down that path, man. You're going to be 24-7 if you're going to start responding to online things. And my general feel of being around this thing for a while now is that whatever it feels, like that they're like 10 texts 10 texts could feel like a hundred texts it's not the case yeah and I think the Ottawa senators all they did was just grab people that had no idea about any of they talking about I believe they call that the Streisand effect you ever heard of that before no tell me Barbara Streisand was trying to like hide the fact that she had this like
Starting point is 00:03:54 30 bajillion dollar mansion she wasn't like you know proud of it wanted to be private someone put it on like Wikipedia or one of those places. She sued to get them to take it down and people only found out about the house because of the lawsuit. Through the lawsuit, people are like, what? She has a mansion and it drew attention to the thing. That's exactly. That's exactly what's happened here. Very loose interpretation of my understanding.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Do you think that we would be talking about this today without the statement? It gave us the permission to openly talk about it rather than use innuendo. I'm almost scared to ask that question to our next guest. I'm going to take my headphones up. He is former NHL president, GM head coach, and now the star of Off the Rails Friday, Doug McLean. How's it going? Thanks for having me on, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Hey, listen, I want to apologize all those years ago when you fell face first on Bloor Street with Vertigo. Because, you know, and I'm starting to get messages now this week, that Vertigo has really affected my... my opinions lately on this show. I've battled it for a number of years. What's going on? It's affected my opinions forever.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Well, I'm feeling better. You remember when I fell face first on Bloor Street, though, and I came, I was on the radio the next day. Obviously, Hockey Center, noon, and I come in, and the girls with the makeup to me and, you know, covered me in makeup. I wore a hat on the air. Like, I walked into McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:05:28 on Bloor Street because all I could feel was blood and that I lost my face and I walked in and they thought I was shot at the Bloor Street, McDonald's. And then the girls fixed me up. And then I landed in Florida that afternoon and Jill couldn't believe her eyes when she picked me up at the airport. Like, what happened to you?
Starting point is 00:05:46 I said, it wasn't a dozen beer hunt. It was vertigo. Yeah, that'd be a tough sell. My first thought was Ty Domi got a hold of you. He doesn't scare me. Oh, yes. When I'm in Florida. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Mac, just talking about the Ottawa senators and just whether or not it was a good thing to put out a press release, you want to defend your player. I'm sure over your career as an executive, you've been many times feeling like you've got to back up your player. But where does this sit with you? You know, Al Morgandia, that summed it up really well today when he said, what are you doing adding gasoline to the fire with that commentary that came out of the Sands? And look, I understand.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I get where they are. This is devastating to this franchise for me right now because this was going to be a breakout season. After making the playoffs last year, poised to take a major step and had a great start to the season. But it's all been around their goal tending. Allmark with the worst save percentage in the league, struggled for a long, early part, and then this hits some between the eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And to me, it's a horrific desperation situation. And right now, the players don't know what to think of it. The coaches don't know what to think of it. the general manager and president of hockey ops don't know what to do or don't know what to do about it because this is a situation. I've never come across this in my lifetime, you know, 24 years or 25 years in the NHL and 10 years in media. I've never come across something this bizarre. And then when this comment comes out last night, I'm thinking, no, no, don't go there, guys. Just figure this out, find out when this guy is coming back and get prepared. This is a team that goes into Detroit.
Starting point is 00:07:53 other day and dominate the game and they're losing three nothing because of horrific gold and they go into Utah and play a great road game and they and they lose because of bad goaltending and today they sign Reimer. I mean, look, it's it's a desperation situation for a franchise that should be on a major high this year. Nobody knows what happened. Obviously he's not injured. Obviously nobody really knows. So I think what's got to come next. next is when is he coming back to the team? I don't care what it's all about. I've heard a lot of things, and I hope it's not true,
Starting point is 00:08:34 but I hope that they can get a timeline as when he's come back. He shows up at a game the other night in Ottawa and sits in a private box. So generally, Mac. And doesn't go near the dressing room? Like, come on, what is going on here? Generally. It makes no sense. Generally, when someone takes a leave of absence, it's, you know, to be away or stay away or respect someone's privacy, he shows up.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And I'm not sure anyone knew he was showing up. No, and then he was on the ice the other day with a coach. I don't know who the coach was, but he was on the ice, I was told. So I hope, I just think they need a timeline, like the coaching staff. management. Get a timeline as to when this guy is getting back in because, I mean, what are they? I mean, they're, you know, they've lost six of their last eight games. And this is a playoff race that you can't afford to go six and eight, six out of eight losses and try to have a chance to get back in it. All of a sudden, Buffalo looks really good. I mean, Detroit aren't
Starting point is 00:09:48 losing. People are getting points every night. So look, I don't know what it is. I feel bad for them, to be quite honest, because I'm a fan of this team. And I also look at a couple of guys on that team that are saying, I'm not going to get hurt. I'm not going to get hurt. I want to go to the Olympics. I want to play in the Olympics. I'm not going to play to her because I'm not going to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And I'm thinking, oh, that's all they need. Anyway. That can't be Brad, Brady Kachuk. I didn't. Hey, listen, I'm not an idiot. I'm not throwing out names. He's been underwhelming since he's been back. Yeah, he has been all
Starting point is 00:10:22 overwhelming. There's no denying that. So, you know, look, it's a, it's a terrible situation, to be quite honest. The unknown, I can't imagine, you wonder why the fans are going ballistic because I have never seen it where there's absolutely no, yeah, there's a statement that comes out, you know, ripping somebody on Twitter, basically, and whatever they said. But what I need, I'd like to see a statement come out saying, okay, this is where we are. This is when our $8 million goal tender
Starting point is 00:10:56 is coming back to play for a team that should be in the playoff race. The question I think a lot of people would want me to ask that I think we're trying not to is, do you think there's anything to it? Like this, it makes sense, Doug, to me, watching a team that should be really good, that's struggling, is there drama between teammates?
Starting point is 00:11:14 And, I mean, you probably have some experience seeing drama between teammates in your dressing rooms in the past. If there is, what now? I didn't have a lot of drama. I mean, I remember coming that Lyle Oteline's wife and Christop Oliva's wife got into a, and Lyle was injured and got into, Olawa was injured, and they got into a major battle in the stands.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And that was okay. You know, they belt, battle in the stands. Then the next thing I know, my captain, Lail O'Don, and Al-O-War are fighting in the parking garage, in a fist fight in the park. and that's in the media the next day. And, you know, those were, those were things that were easy to deal with. I'm really going to resent, I'm really going to resent asking this question,
Starting point is 00:12:00 but why was it okay that they're fighting in the stands? They're fighting in a parking garage is okay. Well, it was, yeah, it was, you know, Christobolo was trying to get by Lyle's wife. And I didn't understand all the history that had between the two of them in New Jersey. Then it became all. I mean, it was a fist fight in the parking garage. And that, you know, so anyway, it was, it was minor compared. At least I could come out with a statement that they had a disagreement.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah, right, right, right. You know. All right, I don't know where to go after that. I didn't get the question answered. And we should move on anyway, I think. How about those leaves? Mack, I asked these guys at the top of our Leaf Hour edition of our show, you know, are the Leafs good again?
Starting point is 00:12:47 I still question if they're good enough to make the playoffs when I'm watching Buffalo the way they're playing. All of a sudden, have you watched Josh Norris play in Buffalo? And the way that line is playing? And all of a sudden you're thinking, this is a good looking team. You know, you've got Zooker and Tuck on one line, and then you've got Thompson, Donne, and Krebs on another line. That's a good top six. And then you look at their top four in the blue line. And I'm thinking, watching, I don't know if the Leafs are good enough to finish ahead of this team.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And I don't know if they're good enough to finish ahead of Detroit. And, you know, there's so many teams in there. I don't know if they're good enough. I mean, I'm happy they're picking up points. And obviously the power plays come alive and things like that. But I don't know if they're good enough to get in, guys. I really don't. I mean, it's a very fair question.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And I think the Buffalo Sabres thing is interesting because I wonder if there's a world where people look back at Josh Norris for Dylan Cousins and go, Buffalo did pretty good there. Well, they did pretty good. Norris has got the history of them. Look, it's not a knock on Ottawa because Couss has been good too. I think it was a fair trade for both teams
Starting point is 00:14:05 and I like it for both teams. But I go back to what I talked about a couple of weeks about the importance of the top defensemen in your group. And you look at who Buffalo having their top four on their back end. And you look at who Detroit having their top four on their back end. And guys, the potential is absolutely the potential that's turning into stars quickly is overwhelming. How good they have a chance to be those two teams with the with the talent they have in the back end. Bo Bo Bo Byram.
Starting point is 00:14:41 The side is taken. Byram Dahlene. right but power is power is not there yet but he still has a chance and then you look at Detroit with the group they have in their back in
Starting point is 00:14:57 I mean I don't know if the Leafs are going to be better in these two teams and who's going to miss to get in the playoffs here it's that much of a dog fight you're watching and listening to Doug McLean. By the way, I hate to bring this up
Starting point is 00:15:10 oh no but did you see Mariner last night with Riley Smith and Stone and the show he put on at Center Rice playing center. No, we did not. We went to bed early. And one of a bit, well, I
Starting point is 00:15:25 didn't see the Toronto Philly game because I was watching Miami and Ole Miss. Quite a game. By that than I was Philly in the Leaks. But that's okay. You know, I'm a, my daughter's at my University of Miami grad,
Starting point is 00:15:40 so I have to support the, you know, the hurricanes. Do you like, do you like, Vegas's chances of getting Rasmus Anderson because that's been the strongest link so far. It wouldn't surprise me. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:55 Kelly and George McPhee will do whatever it takes and they've got the support of their owner to do whatever it takes. They find ways of fitting guys in. Do they have the assets to move? I guess they do. I mean, they really feel, you know, the petro-Angelo is such a hole.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You know, are they good enough to contend without another defenseman, maybe not. But it wouldn't shock me that they would pull something off. Wouldn't shock me in the least. I want to ask you about a team that lost 11 straight games now the Winnipeg Jets or haven't won in 11
Starting point is 00:16:27 straight games. What are they going to do, Doug? Like their team was first last year. First, their last. Like, they've won three of their last 23 games or something. Like, I can't believe this. I know. With the talent,
Starting point is 00:16:44 they have. I know Hala Bucks been injured. I get all that. You know, and I, but there's something wrong. There, you know, and Chevy, Chevy's got to do something. I, I, I don't like to see people lose their jobs and I'm not one to ever advocate that. You know that on this show. I'd never say that somebody should be fired. Well, Marks haveired may think differently a little bit. But, you know, something's got to give here. You know, something's got to give here. This is, this has gotten ridiculous what, how this team is playing. And if they, if they don't do something in the next week,
Starting point is 00:17:17 they're going to be, it's going to be too late. Can you repeat, can you repeat that and just take Winnipeg out and put New Jersey in? Well, you know, I don't know what's going on. I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:29 I had them picked as a contender in, this year. I really did. I thought, you know, I didn't know, Hughes was going to hurt himself at a team function. And put them behind the eight ball.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I mean, but when, I watched the other night and you leave a goaltender in for nine games or nine goals, a franchise, like your number one goalie and you leave him in for nine games and I get an explanation to he's going to fight his way back? Like, are you serious? And by the same token, there was no pushback from the team in that game. Zero, zero pushback from the New Jersey Devils. I can't imagine where Fitsy's head is right now. Tommy Fitz, I mean, he, he, he, he, he's got to be losing it.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But, you know, they have not looked good. We saw them in Toronto. We saw them in Columbus. I mean, they just didn't look like the same team. And I had them as a team to challenge this year. I really did. Maybe Allmark for Markstrom and work around a package there, help each other out a little bit, fresh changes.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Well, if Allmark would give them a timeline, if he's going to be back in the next month, there's three months or six months. I mean, maybe you could make a trade. I'd certainly try, I'll tell you that. Have you ever made a trade just because your team needed something different? Like you were talking about the devil's waiting for something to happen. The Quinn Hughes thing doesn't happen. Right now, it's just someone going to lose their job.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Like, we need to just get a new body in there. So you could say new checkpoint from here, maybe we'll do good. You know, I think it happens. There's no doubt about that. I can't recall any, you know, where it really was because of that. Because when you're an expansion, GM, it's a totally different. a different deal unless you're today's expansion GMs with Vegas and the way they've you know the way they have hit the ground running so strong
Starting point is 00:19:21 you know but I don't recall but I mean you certainly it's it drives you absolutely batty when you're a GM and you're going through what these teams are going through right now especially the way Winnipeg are projected to be the way Jersey's projected to be the way the Leafs are projected to be like it's hard on the head and Ottawa, the way they're going when expectations were high. They're desperately trying to do something, but to make trades in today's NHL is not an easy,
Starting point is 00:19:53 it's not an easy deal. It really isn't. Connor Bedard makes his return tonight, Mack. If it's him, Bennett, some of these guys, I got to think they're right on the cusp of maybe an injury or two away from playing in the Olympics. Do you expect him to be shot out of a cannon this kid? Look, I mean, he's been really good.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I mean, we talked about him a month ago on this show, and you guys poo-poot me. I talked about Schaefer on this show. You guys pooh-poot me. I mean, you made me look like an idiot, actually, when I brought up both their names in the last month, you know, did you guys happen to notice Schaefer against the Leafs last week after I talked about it or not?
Starting point is 00:20:35 I don't know if you did. Yeah. But I don't know if you noticed. Doug McLean discovered Matthew Schwarz. Schaefer. Great work on the road, Doug. No, I didn't discover him, but I said that maybe he should be a consideration for that team. He's only
Starting point is 00:20:48 better than five of the guys on their back end right now. But anyway, don't worry about that. And Connor Bernard's been real good, too. Bennett is the one that still drives me baddie, but some guys are going to get in there. I still go back to it. Who do you want your team? Sorrella, Sorrelli,
Starting point is 00:21:04 or Bennett? Who do you want your team? Like, come on. I think it doesn't make sense to me. But that's okay. John Cooper's a lot smarter than I am, and Doug Armstrong's a lot smarter than I am, and that's okay. I'll leave it at that. By the way,
Starting point is 00:21:20 I've got to bring up Tyler Larderder. My Baltimore Skipjack, Washington Capital teammate. I get a note from people in P.E.I. that asked me if I would write a letter of recommendation for Tyler Larder for the Prince of Rhode Island Sports Hall of Fame. and as you guys are well aware, I'm a member of the Prince of Ireland Sports Hall of Fame. Of course.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I was inducted in. They clearly don't know or watched you on our show. Strip him of his membership. So anyway, I send a letter recommending Todd today, and I said I wanted to bring his name up on the real Kipper show because I know he's a big fan of the show, and I just wanted to mention his name, because he and Nick were team.
Starting point is 00:22:08 teammates with the Baltimore skipjacks when I coach them, when I coach them both. I was the head coach of the skipjack. And both of Tyler was a rookie. Nick was a veteran. So Tyler sends me a note today to tell Kippie, he's a big fan of the show. And then he recalls in 80, I don't know what year was, 88, 89, whatever it was. Tyler had two goals and three assists against New Haven in the series.
Starting point is 00:22:38 had three goals and two assists. There were line mates. Nick gets called up to Washington to never come back to Baltimore and Tyler got a player of the weak plaque that he's still on. And ended up playing one game in his career in the NHL
Starting point is 00:22:57 with Washington. And Nick, of course, goes on to have this eluscious career. Oh, yeah, really. Made them. Made them. Listen, I just Google a skip check. If you came off, and told that story and you don't get him in.
Starting point is 00:23:12 P.E.I. Hall of Fame. You're in big trouble, my friend. Mac, maybe since we're just playing, let's name a guy, this is a much bigger name in hockey history. Glenn Hall recently passed away. I've been talking with Daryl Sutter about this man. And just what an absolute legend and one of the all-time greats.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Consecutive streaks. 502 straight starts as a goalie. But listen to this. I listened to him the other night. I saw this clip of Bobby Plager flying to Alberta and driving up to Glenn Hall's home to meet with him and do us a feature. And Glenn Hall said, yeah, Bobby Plager,
Starting point is 00:23:56 who I was an assistant coach with me in St. Louis, one of my all-time favorite guys, Bobby, all-time favorite guys. So he says to Glenn, well, you had that record of 508 games or whatever was a streak. And Glenn Hall says, what? Five hundred eight games. If you consider my run in the minors, I was a thousand and fifty games
Starting point is 00:24:18 without coming out of the net. What's what these guys always have to come out of the net after one game? I went a thousand and fifty-six games without coming under the net. So, you know, I guess it's... And then he showed the equipment. Anyway, I thought it was one of the... I loved the interview of Bobby interview in Glenn Hall, and it was within the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:24:38 years. And you're right. What a legend in the game and what an unbelievable goalie coach for so many NHL goaltenders. And I can only imagine what he was like as a mentor for so many goaltenders. I believe it was with the Calgary Flames organization that he was with for a long time. Do you think that any current NHL goaltender who for sure I've never heard of Glenn Hall can like, guilt them themselves into maybe a back-to-back game? That would be tough. We've got guys who can't even get on the ice to practice for weeks at a time.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So fragile. I mean, look, it's, yeah, that would, playing back-to-backs is, it's just not fair to goaltenders. It's just not fair. I know. I remember when I was coaching Van Biesbrook, and I would take them out of the net and put Mark Fitzpatrick in
Starting point is 00:25:37 to try to give Fitsy like 15, 20 games. Beezer wouldn't speak to me. He wouldn't talk to me. So I'd say, oh, geez, Beezer's mad. I mean, well, yeah, he wants to play. He wants to play every game, you know, so now. Who's that fault? Who's that fault for this?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Like sleep doctors, analytics, nutrition. Like, who decided hockey people or non-hockey people that this workload isn't conducive? It was guys like born. These analytics guys are the guys that come up with that. You know that. I went 10 years and I didn't miss a game dug. I also just got out of the way of being hit.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Hey. It's true. Were you a goalie? No. Were you a goalie? Oh, give me some credit. Oh, I was a floating winner. I went, I looked up your hockey DB, but it didn't give your position.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I scored like a goalie. Is that the joke? You know, you're not allowed to miss a Friday now. What's that? Yeah, like seriously, I hear every Friday. Nah, you, you're mailing it in lately, too. Last couple of years. You go, you get what you pay for.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You go to the mountains. You claim no reception. These are lame, unlike Glenn Hall. By the way, I did charge my iPad today so that I wasn't looking at that battery dying, battery dying across the top of the screen. So anyway, look, guys, it's, it's, It's been a lot of fun. And yeah, we've got, we've got a lot of few issues going on in the league that I hope get resolved.
Starting point is 00:27:13 You got another one for us? Give us another one. They get a chance to get in. What? Yeah. Any issues at all? Like, has Sammy been sending you pictures of the arena at the Olympics? It's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's good. Yeah, I guess it looks good. I mean, you know, it looks real good. They did there today, what I used to do in Columbus, when we had the practice facility attached to the big building and money was tight you know money was i used to have our guys dropped the clock they'd drop the clock in the big rink and the teams had come in they'd want to practice on the big guys and i'd say no no we're doing some work we've got the clock down you've got to go on our practice facility and practice over there and they thought i was hurting them because
Starting point is 00:28:00 you know i was sending them to the practice facility which was just a walkway down the hall no that's not why I was doing it. I was doing it so I could charge the team $250 an hour for the practice facility and it was in the main ice. They had to let them on for nothing. That's not true. That's not true. Tell me that's not true. Are you serious? I'm serious. You cheap, bastard. I remember I walked over to watch whoever Keenan was coaching at that time and he was screaming, yelling. Why are we on? And I started screaming at Keenan. We were in a screaming match at the President. And it was all about $250
Starting point is 00:28:36 to come back to us for rent. The end of an invoice? That's hilarious. NHL. NHL. NHHL. Yeah, this is the NHL, the biggest,
Starting point is 00:28:47 greatest hockey league in the world. $250, please. All right, Mac. All good, my friend. Well, you didn't that? Rimer's the new goalie in Ottawa. Is that true? You told us that.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I feel good about that. So we'll see what happens. All right, those are your sins, man. I know you're pulling for them. Okay, guys. Thanks a lot for having me on. I really appreciate it again. And I'm having trouble coming up with stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You know, it's really, I've lost interest in the show, to be quite honest. You're not, you're not helping right now. I got to put out a statement here. Okay, yeah, we're going to put out a statement after you leave, eh? And listen, all the best with the vertigo, Nick. Thank you, my friend. Thank you. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Doug McLean, everybody. He's lost interest in our show. That $2.30 stories. That's bonkers to own an NHL franchise and be worried about an hourly rate. Yeah, he's not kidding. That's insane to me. By the way, Sammy probably has a vertigo. I do want to note for the viewers at home, this is our first day as a show,
Starting point is 00:29:59 having a Montreal Canadian sweater. Yeah. We will now. As anyone noticed that this killed. It will never be back. So just to bring everybody up to speed, we said something to our boss, Ryan Fabro, that we got no jerseys.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And somehow he found a cupboard somewhere full of jerseys. Came down with Habs, Flames, White, Winnipeg. I think Vancouver. We've been asking the team this whole time. Yeah, I did ask. And then he says, yeah. So all that time. tells me is Ryan Fabro doesn't even listen to our show.
Starting point is 00:30:35 He pretends he does. Here's one thing I know for sure. That's not true. If he's waited a year and a half to bring us jerseys, he's not paying attention. He didn't know about the jersey stash. Wow. I got to find out where that jersey stash.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We still need a Canucks jersey if Canucks PR is listening. Yeah. We'll take a jersey from any team if they're listening. Sounds to be Canadian. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll take them. We have a Utah jersey.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah, yeah. It's game time. Visit by Bat 365. Visit the Affleated Saut. and see why it's ever ordinary at bet 365 plus 19 plus Ontario only please play responsibly. I'm just going to highlight a fabulous weekend of NFL football we have this weekend. It's super wild car weekend. Get started tomorrow afternoon with the Rams and the Carolina Panthers, maybe not the sexiest matchup.
Starting point is 00:31:18 But the Saturday night game for me is probably the premier game of the weekend. It's the Chicago Bears hosting the Green Bay Packers, one of the more traditional rivalries in all of sports. Only ever played twice in the playoffs. No kid. I think once in the early 2010. The actual NFL playoffs, only 50 years old or 50, whatever it is. Once in the 2010s, like once in the 40s, like pre-super Bowl. They've barely ever played.
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Starting point is 00:32:06 Has to go. Can't lose. It's funny because they're a six seed. Yeah, and they're playing the Jacksonville Jaguars who are actually really good and have been one of the best players. It is minus 110 on the money line for the Buffalo Bills. So a parlay of those two teams plays plus 291. Give me the bills.
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Starting point is 00:33:46 So, Chris Johnson went over to Milan Cortina. Good. Did he pick up a hard hat and a hammer? Did he bring us about it? So he sent out, he did a story about the rank, and they published it on the athletic. But he sent out a tweet saying, like, there's a big hole in the ice and there's a delay or whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And there's this guy I've been following flowy. I think everybody kind of started following me. He plays for one of the Italian team leagues, sorry, Italian league teams that played in this tournament today. And he sent out a tweet saying it was a small hole that was fixed in five minutes. Ice was really good. I was surprised how good it was and it will only get better. So we're not too worried about the positivity.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But it is remarkable how big of a story this is and how much of the interest there is. on running out of time here. Well, it has Fire Fest vibes. Yeah. You ever remember you ever hear Fire Fest Kip? It was like Jarl. I just learned about Barbara Streisand.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Jarl rule hosted like a giant concert on this island, right? Somewhere in the Caribbean or something. Never watched a documentary, actually. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Very poorly organized. They didn't have any planning. It was an absolute mess.
Starting point is 00:35:00 There was bad weather. People were very sick. People might have died. I don't know. It was very bad. Either way. Bread and cheese sandwiches. getting in my ear from Brandeo.
Starting point is 00:35:09 This has bread and cheese sandwich vibes to me. So the athletic... John Rolls involved with the planning is what I'm saying of the Olympics. The athletic sends CJ to Russia. He reports on a hole on the ice. No, no, no. And he's coming back home. Or I'm sorry, Italy, Italy. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm like, I'm just going to stick around. Maybe he's going to take a detour. But no, no, you send him to Italy to report on a hole and now he comes home. I don't know. Amazing if they do. I would love organizations to... take news. Is it two holes in two days? Now stick around. You may have to just stay there until the tournament starts. If I were him, I would suggest. I volunteered to do that job. We'll go.
Starting point is 00:35:46 What about stalls, bathroom stalls? Yeah, they're not going to have those. So Sid's dad shows up for a game and looks and doesn't find a seat. Yeah, I mean, this is all very possible. All I know is it's not going to be flawless, right? Like there's no way, the way, the way, the women start playing in like three weeks Yeah, there's no way it's perfect. But if the ice is good, the hockey will be good and everything else. It has to be a good experience for people going to the arena. That's, it's important.
Starting point is 00:36:20 More people are watching at home. Really? Screw them? No, not screw them, but I mean, here's what, hockey should be good. Let's start off with another thought about the Olympic. This is from Sean and Vancouver. Thanks for the crap gold medal game time.
Starting point is 00:36:35 5.30 a.m. way to show off your stars so it's that what they're doing it's why it gets to be 1 30 local in it's it's already done it's 8 30 a.m here for the gold medal game no way it's pre it's already done yeah it's 8 30 30 locally would cut it give them a little wake up 8 30 am like I think the game times are 10 40 3 10 there's a bunch of different times I gotta say a core life memory for me though is waiting at line for the foggy do at 5 a.m for the 2014 morning olympic clearly they were i had an interesting experience maybe i won't tell that story but my buddy on that clearly they're scared to go up against our show from four to six p.m eastern i don't think that's the case
Starting point is 00:37:19 maybe i think it had a lot to do with it maybe this uh oh no this you got text yeah that was that was from sean and vancouver oh that's okay uh now this is really pushing it with the habs you asked for habs stuff let's do it who's your guy's favorite habs players of all time mine would be larry robert Robinson from Mark in the bullpen. I think that's a wonderful question. And you're going to hate my answer, everyone. Scott Gomez. I love Scott Gomez.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Such a fun guy. Oh, the flower. That's a great player. But Gila Fleur is probably a bit of a better answer. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. You were just, and I was a Lee fan, but he just scared the hebi-jeebies out of all of us coming down the wing.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You know, Jacques Lamere was sneaky, not super star. but just, I mean, he was a superstar. Yeah. But just didn't have that flash, but he was so good, too. You know, there was lots to like on the, you know, my era more remembering the 92 Cup or is it 93, whatever here was the Habs on there, the Vinny Damfusses of the world.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Always enjoyed watching him play, but Patrick was my answer. So hold on, just on the Habs. Easy answer for me is Nick. Okay. Nick? Yeah, shout out on sound. It's a big point of pride that he was such a great attack player, made the Olympic team.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Makes me sick that he plays to the haves, but he's by far my favorite hives player of all time. Shout out, Nick. So I'm sure we took a little bit on the chin, me and you, because we picked San Jose over Montreal as a team that you would rather, how'd you phrase it earlier this week?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Whose future would you rather have? Yes. And we picked Celebrini for obvious reasons. You go with the mega superstar that you could probably build and sell around. but it's not even close if you were to pick a team that could win a Stanley Cup faster. It's Montreal all day long. Yeah, that's not the question.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And even, you know, people are like, Montreal's way better. Like, yeah, they are. We're picking about whose future would you rather have. And to me, that's picking ceilings and longevity rather than this season. What are? We're in trouble for that? No, but I think people were like, Montreal is better than San Jose. Yeah, they are.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And it's like, yeah, and they're closer to winning. a Stanley Cup than San Jose. Demadov is awesome. I mean, I would also say that sharks have a way worse roster or in a playoff spot on the backs of one player. Yeah, also their division.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, for sure. That caponin is really taking Montreal to another level too. He's been a bright spot for sure. We're done? Yeah, we're good. Okay. How about some love for the penguins?
Starting point is 00:40:02 Sid keeps turning back the clock and this team is playing much better than anyone expected. Dan Mews has done a really good job. Love the show. Winston from Hawksville. Listen, I appreciate them. I really do.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And it's fun to watch. It's great. But like Sid and Malkin that's like watching Thelman Louise. You know, they're going to go to the cliff real soon here. And where's your team after that? Like a year,
Starting point is 00:40:35 can they win the Stanley Cup for Sid in this year or next year and then where are they? Well, you're locking this penguins team into a future of like Minnesota Wildean before the superstars you know where you're 10th to 20th
Starting point is 00:40:51 for like 20 straight years. It's like you can't, they didn't have the fortitude to make a hard decision and so they're just going to be okay. Don't you think Kyle Dubas like deep down just wants the team to not be in a position? I do think. this? Yes, I do think that.
Starting point is 00:41:09 But I do think that he knows. So we can sell off a few pieces? You can't betray the legacy of Sid and the whole thing. No. No, you can't. So he's kind of... Handcuffed. Yeah. Sammy. Okay. I just think why are you going to... You're in a
Starting point is 00:41:26 playoff spot. I mean, you're at the... He's one of the greatest players in the history of the league who plays your team and is under contract for two more years and he's playing great and your team's playing great. Why don't you just keep playing great? Because you're not great. But why do you always have to think about, like, the future? I mean, sure you can trade Sid.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Sure, he's going to go. But, like, he's awesome and he's on your team. And you have him under contract for two more years. It's like, oh, but you got to rebuild. You got to rebuild. You have freaking Sidney Cross. There are some nights with Sid. They suck.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I get it. They have 10,000 people in the building. Sure. Okay, so trade them away, then see how many people go. Well, you build a winner. That's what you've got to do. You're not, you're not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And the only way they get rid of Sid, is if Sid goes, I'm ready. So that's, I'm not looking at Sid. You think he'd look at the abs and go there pretty good. I'm looking at the pieces around Sid. Like if Sid wants to retire a Pittsburgh penguin, then it's over. Was there ever an update? Move around it.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, on Landisog's injury. Has anyone heard anything on that? I'm just, do they call it upper body? Yeah, I think that was it. Anyway. Another Habs-related text. All right. It's the Habs hour here because we don't talk about the habs enough.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I want to thank Sammy for chirping the habs a few weeks ago about calling up Fowler. They've got 23 out of a possible 30 points since then. Keep running your mouth. Is that good? 23 or 30? What's that? Like, playoff? Well, our boy Valley did some Valley dating there.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah. On him. I mean, this guy is supposed to be awesome. He's supposed to be awesome. And I'm not, I don't know anything more than that. I just 23 of 30s is pretty good. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm just saying that people are all over me about that. Yes. Brett from Calgary here. Why does everyone keep saying Rastas Anderson is going to Vegas? Please tell me what they have to trade us because looking at their roster and picks, nothing there makes sense. We already have their first round pick this year. So we're going to get their first rounder next year and the year after.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Thanks, boys. Love the show. Great question. So what do, what picks do they have available left? Well, they have So they have their 20, 27 and 28 first. They have all their second rounders the next three years. They've got all their picks, basically.
Starting point is 00:43:46 They have all their picks. They're missing a first next year. That's it. That's not. Calgary has it. Yeah. Maybe that's part of the reason why we haven't seen anything happen. It's just they don't like what potentially return.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah. You got the picks, though, if that does interest Calgary, which it probably should. I don't know, Braden Bowman, Cole, Ryan Hart, Alexander Holtz, in terms of prospects, I'm looking at... Holtz? That would interest me, building something around him.
Starting point is 00:44:18 You know, was it New Jersey who had him and gave up on him? I feel uncomfortable about players who are getting given up on multiple times by multiple franchise. Okay. I get that. I get that. I don't know the answer to that. I'm going to dive into that little deeper.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Okay. Another tab stacks. Hey guys, love the show, watch all the time. Okay, good start. Thank you. But it gets ugly now. How do you feel about what Texie is doing in Montreal? And then he says, G-O-H-A-B-S-G-O.
Starting point is 00:44:53 So how does a guy like that in Columbus not work? Yeah. And then to your point, if he's not good enough for... Louis at one point? If you're not good enough for those clubs, like how could you be good enough for us? Interesting, right? He's getting top line opportunity, playing with good players.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That certainly would be part of it, but does that mean you need other people to drive you? Does that mean you were pouting where you were before? Can those problems persist somewhere else? But he seems very happy. I assume he is from Quebec with that name. It's in Alberta. What's that?
Starting point is 00:45:31 From Alberta. Is he actually? Yeah. No, no. Quite the French name. Oh, I thought you're talking with the texter. Alexander Alexander
Starting point is 00:45:40 We aren't talking about the texter I thought you're talking about who the texter That's his nickname This is all very confusing Sammy a piece of trivia for you For your national hour Oh this for January 29th So we're getting a little early on it okay
Starting point is 00:45:57 It will be the 77th anniversary Of the only fight Which Rocket Richard ever admitted to losing Gordie Howe got five minutes for the fight Rocket got 21 minutes for the fight because it was his third fight that night. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Imagine going to a hockey game and watching Maurice Richard and Gordy Howe fight. If I could travel back in time to go to a game, that might be. That might be the one. It would be cool. What would be equivalent to that today? One fight? No, no. No, would that be like OV versus...
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah. Sid? No. OV versus... You're thinking of a heated rivalry. Yeah, maybe. Right? Those are the two biggest superstars in the game.
Starting point is 00:46:39 As, you know, you know what game you might travel back in time to see is Josh Manson's last night? Did you see his stat line? How? More than two goals. Two assists. A fight plus five, five hits, four block shots, three takeaways. That's the best stat line of all time. He should retire.
Starting point is 00:46:58 He's a defenseman. How many darts a game did Gila Fleur smoke in the dressing room during a game asking for a friend? I don't know. Kip did anyone smoke? Less than Ally Afraidy. Ally Fred who's smoking during the game. Yeah, and he got accused of smoking like pot too one night because when he got traded from Canada to Washington,
Starting point is 00:47:18 he ripped the filters off of him. So everybody, like there would be a section of season ticket holders going. And you could see the outside of our dressing room where he's like working on his sticks. And it's pretty like, do you know, your defenseman's getting high in between periods? And they're like, no, no, no, no. He just rips the filter off of them.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I heard a story about a guy. It might have been Amnove in Dallas or something like that. I've heard Casparitis used to smoke in the shower. That story's not up there with two wives fighting in the stands like Doug McLean's earlier today. The one I heard was that a guy would go into the equipment trainer's room where they have the vent for the, you know, whatever. Is it Markov? Danny Markov.
Starting point is 00:47:58 He'd blow smoke into the fans. He thought you could smoke into the dryer and it would absorb. And then I'm like, my underwear smells the next. next day like a pack of, you know, craving A's or whatever you called them back then. Devin from P.E.I. Hockey TV says Texier is from St. Martine de Herrs in France. Love the show. French French, French. Because he's playing for the French national team at the Olympics against Canada. Cool. At the big, at the big old rink in Milan. Playing alongside like just some guy. Yeah, is Cristobal Huey in that?
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah, and a guy who bakes pastries. It's a croissant maker from... That is awesome. That is awesome. I think we're out, boys. It's almost that. What do you got on tap this weekend, boys? A ton of football.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I got curling tomorrow, of course, every Saturday morning. You get to sit on the couch and just watch it all day? Yeah. You do. I do. Well, no, I mean, like, I do things. Like, I do things I need to do. Vacuum?
Starting point is 00:48:56 Yeah, like, I'll do if there's something I need to do. But, yeah, generally, I plan my days around sitting down and watching sports all day. I got both my kids play hockey. You got a shop for a washer dryer. Whoa. Bed Bath and Beyond if we have time. I need vertigo on the weekend. I might get vertigo.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah. Family dinner in the evening, maybe. Our thanks to Doug McLean. Really pains me to say that. Also, all of our callers in the Leaf Hour edition and our tech stuff. Texie A. Texier.
Starting point is 00:49:33 A lot of Habs talk. There we go, Habs fans. We do talk about. three games on tap we are out if you get a chance give us a rating and review and of course always on youtube a thumbs up we are back on monday everybody enjoy your weekend stay safe

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