Real Kyper & Bourne - Cats Claim the Cup

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

The Florida Panthers are Stanley Cup champions, and Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee look back on their Game 7 victory over the Oilers. They discuss McDavid's performance in the closeout game, him not coming out for the Conn Smythe, whether Bobrovsky deserved the honour more, the soft, eventual winning goal allowed by Skinner and more. Then, they listen to some of the post-game sound from last night. Later, they react to the announcement of this year's Hockey Hall of Fame class. Afterward, a chat on the Oilers' offseason plans and projecting what Leon Draisaitl's extension might look like. Finally, they share their thoughts on the Senators acquiring Linus Ullmark from the Bruins and Jo Woll nearing an extension with the Leafs.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Sorry, Canada. You're gonna have to wait at least 12 months to get another crack at ending a horrific drought of Lord Stanley in this country. Sammy, was it 31? Now going to 32? You're the mathematician here. Oh yeah, thanks. I was five years old

the last time a team won the Cup. Canada. Now down Yonge Street can still happen for you though. My lips are sealed. Stanley Cup champions beating the Edmonton Oilers 2-1 in Game 7 streak can still happen for you though florida panthers my lips are sealed stanley cup champions beating the edmonton oilers 2-1 in game seven after blowing a three nothing lead in the series didn't blow it oh so close

i got hooked in i thought the the wave I believed in the wave of the three straight wins. But the reason why they say the fourth is always the toughest. Dude, that was the most Florida Panthers win of all time. Like a couple go in, and then they just ice the puck 400 times until the game ends. Pack the paint. Just park the bus as they say in footy. Yes, absolutely.

And ice it. All right. Well, listen, we got so much to dissect in the game ends. Pack the paint. Just park the bus as they say in footy. Absolutely. And ice it. All right. Well, listen, we got so much to dissect in the next hour. We're glad you're aboard. We are live on Sportsnet 590, the fans. Sportsnet 650 in Vancouver. Sportsnet 960 in Calgary. And you are watching on Sportsnet 360 and Sportsnet Plus. This hour of Real Kipper

and Born brought to you by Bet365. I'm Nick Kiprios. He's Justin Bourne. He's Sammy McKee, Derek Brandeo, and Jake the Snake Schultz. So we got some Kippers Clippers that we'll get into. Overall, though, how was your game seven? Because I told you when I left here, I had those pineapple ribs.

And they were fantastic. Did you have a whole party at your house? No, just a few friends. It was fun. It felt like a Super Bowl.

It felt like a championship game. It felt like a championship game. And it just, it was fun. Delivered. Delivered for sure. You know, not really having a dog in the fight, just kind of rooting for good hockey. Would have preferred to see the Canadian team bring it home. But my first time, my son stayed up the distance

and saw the cup get handed out and learn a little bit about his family history, which is really cool. It was a great night, great game. I cannot believe McDavid didn't tuck it in with six minutes left. Montour from behind on the stick lift. Bodies on the goal line. Drama. It was a great game.

Great piece. So for you, is that what last night came down to? The fact that the Oilers got away with one pointless game, six out of Connor McDavid, but they couldn't get away with two? I think that's a big part of the story. I do think that if you're Paul Maurice, who deserves a ton of credit for the way this thing shook out, you're saying, just don't let the guy beat us, whoever he thinks is going to beat us,

and you kind of make that your game plan, and they succeeded in getting him to zero points in game seven. It's helpful to have Barkov when you're trying to shut him down. That does a lot for you. Huge. I don't know. I had a hard time watching the Connors stuff last night. I really did.

I just, I see in him, like, I saw a low angle of him skating off the ice right after the games where the rats are flying down the stupidest tradition in all of sports, whipping rubber rats on the ice. It's like, oh, my God. And then you just see him go over to the bench and he drops his head. He takes his helmet off. He just sits there for a second. You just, you can't imagine what's going

no one seems to care more about winning than no it's just i i i think a lot of what came out of last night for me is about connor mcdavid and i know the panthers won and they did a great job and maurice and all the stuff and kinchuk and we'll get into all that stuff but for me the main talking point out of that game for the right and wrong reasons is for connor mcdavid do you not agree no i think it's it's worthwhile i do want to just add the barkoff thing though with him getting shut down last night you have a great stat in here that among forwards that barkoff played at least 40 minutes against in the playoffs only nine of them so this is the good players in over four playoff series only nine of them scored a single goal while he was on the

ice and none of them scored two and that includes conor mcdavid who just had one in 40 minutes plus of ice time zach hyman panarin debraus crider geeky zack a haggle like players but bark of i'm giving some love here if this guy played in canada the statue would be finished by now that was a showing that was a showing last night you know defensive defensive greatness so to get get back to Sammy's point about McDavid, did either of you care that he didn't come out to accept the consummate? Kipper? Okay, for the record, we said, what, now five guys have done this? I think it's six, and he was the second skier.

He's the sixth. He's the sixth. My recollection is that we've only seen one player on the ice be presented to the consmith, and that was Jaguar. I remember when I first broke into pro hockey was the 87, if I believe, the Stanley Cup, Edmonton and Philadelphia. And I remember Ziegler doing it with Dave Hodge to Ron Hexdahl in the studio. Okay? So it's not like this big tradition where we present now in front of everybody. No.

So, I don't know. Reggie Leach got one. I'm not sure where he was in 1976 i know where ron hexdahl was i i i don't to answer your question not a big deal for me zero i can't imagine caring about this i cannot imagine i I know Sammy might have something to say about it, but my two cents on this are what are we trying to do to the guy? Like in his lowest moment in Florida's building, you want to see the pain on his face while he goes to collect a thing

he doesn't want? Like he won it. Well, you want to make him shame, shame, shame like Game of Thrones down the middle of the ice to touch it? There's a way to say it or articulate it that doesn't disrespect the honor it has in it and the names on it. But I didn't come to win that trophy. No.

I didn't come to collect an individual trophy. I wanted the team trophy. He doesn't honor it. He doesn't care about it. He does not care about it. Yeah, I'm surprised from both of you. I think that it's one of the most prestigious trophies in all of sports. Outside of the four major team trophies,

there's no, to me, more important individual trophy than the Kahn-Smythe trophy. And I know I'm a hockey fan. You haven't lost me. I think, I mean, because all the other ones are like the finals MVP, the Super Bowl MVP. Okay, so give it to Conor at the awards ceremony with the rest of them then if you care so much. Where is it that I have to get this thing a minute after I just had the biggest.

Can I get it in Vegas when everyone else gets theirs? The biggest gut punch of my life. Where is it that I have to go and put a smile on my face to go get it a minute after I don't think he's got to put a smile on I just I think it's a huge from his perspective how many new hockey fans and specifically Americans are watching that game where they're just it's a game seven it's a huge deal the biggest star in the game is Connor McDavid yeah and I know he doesn't care about this yeah how's the marketing people, Marcus? I'm a player.

This is all perception. This is all perception. I'm talking from a fan's perspective. And, you know, American sports fans tend to be a little bit more hot-tanky. Are we talking about the same league that treats that Clarence Campbell bowl like it's the new COVID? Are we talking about the same league? Yeah.

Where you want to sell to the Americans that we won't touch this trophy and we make Bill Daley look like he's waiting for the bus. But just let me finish here. I think that there's a lot of people that are new hockey fans that were watching Conor McDavid that, you know, they're used to the finals MVP. They're used to the, like, whatever, where that's like a part of the presentation.

And the biggest star in the game wins the highest honor outside of the trophy, and he's not there. The perception to me, that... Not a big deal. We disagree. I think it is a big deal. It's the most prestigious...

It's bigger than the heart. It's bigger than anything. So give it to him when you give out the trophies then i just think you got to go out there and take the picture okay i i firmly disagree we've had this conversation numerous times going into game seven is it is it his is it bobrowski's is it bobrsky's to lose? Well, apparently it was. But was Connor a lock after game five, game six? Apparently after game five. Game five. Apparently. And I said yesterday, I said for Bobrovsky to get back in it,

he'd almost have to pitch a shutout. Well, he was pretty darn close. He was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. He wasn't that busy, but he was. But he made some sneaky hard saves. There's one on that court that he's coming have to pitch a shutout while he was pretty darn close unbelievable he was unbelievable he wasn't that busy but he was sneaky hard saves there's one on that call he's coming across to the post he was back yeah he was back so uh like did the voters screw this up well i don't think they screwed it up i think he was the most valuable player in the playoffs but i do think typically we give the award to someone on the team that won unless it's

head and shoulders you guys have told me that the weighting the value of it is like 60 percent of it's in the cup final it's your performance there matters most I think early in the playoffs when you're giving us the odds his odds of winning the cons might were pretty low in the in the finals like he he was plus 1100 or plus on. Games four and five, everyone just hive-minded it and said it's his regardless. And they seemed to turn it off a little bit. To me, Barkov shutting him down in the big games. I know in the past, they've asked the voters

to get their votes in like halfway through the third period. Do we have to? They do. And do they have to? It's just stupid. Can we not? We don't need to engrave it. The whole thing.

Does anyone want to touch it? It's just stupid. The whole thing. We don't need to engrave it. The whole thing. He doesn't want to touch it. It's just goofy to me. That. Yeah. Let's get it right. They need to get it out of the way. The game's not even over.

We're doing offsides down to a hair. Yeah. And replays. But a guy could score the OT winner in game seven and it's not going to count towards his letter grade. Anyway. To me. I think the reason they would do that, I don't know if it's the ingrate, but it's maybe it's more about the full playoffs as opposed to the last 10 minutes

of the last game of the final. But when it's close, it matters. As close as it was i i do think if it's a an all playoff award clearly mcdavid earned it and he was the best player for most of the playoffs but i just do think that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth to see him go five and six with no points and then have them sorry six and seven seven and have them lose yeah but then he also had eight points in two games it that. It doesn't matter. It doesn't.

What, unfortunately, Conor's going to have to face here is that he didn't deliver when it was most needed. And that's a factor here. And I'm not saying that it was enough. It was most needed in four, five, and six, too, right? When he did show up. Yeah. But this one, we'll look back in 10 or 15 years, and it'll be prominent that he had 40-plus points,

only being the third guy outside of Gretzky and Lemieux. He broke Gretzky's record. And then someone's going to very very quickly bring up but he was pointless in game six and seven and they lost i think it's a bigger story that to me one of the five best players on earth and best goal scorers on the planet leon dry sidle had zero in the in the series seven game series last nine games he didn't score a goal and he's hurt you know you're hearing now that maybe a broken rib maybe broken finger those are limiting important factors and i'm not it's not a moral judgment on the guy but it is a reality that boy those are big games to not find a way to

and put one in last night he had a chance to hit one in the sweet spot connor put it right in the right on the pillow for him and he just whiffed and he never just whiffs and you wonder it's like the rib and you just can't get the timing just a little get the hands inside because it's bugging you and it just misses the net and it's that close so i don't know i i don't know what ifs big what ifs on dry saddle for me the other factor we have to talk about is that when it when push came to shove Bobrovsky was better than Skinner and Skinner was great but that one goal Skinner was great but you can't let

you can't let Sam Ryan Hart beat you short you short side. Just a wrister from distance. It's a muffin, buddy. It's a muffin. Short side. And I get it. It's a team effort there, too. He kept walking in. And it was Kulak, who's on the blue line,

that kept backing off. Go challenge him. Right. And actually, he didn't even need to. I think they drew it online. He didn't need to go to the middle lane driver. They had someone else to lock onto him. So I get it.

Skinner's got a few things on his mind, including far side and including back door. But he can't see anything short side. And I don't know if he whiffed it. To me, it looked like an outfielder that just whiffed a fly ball. It's all, I mean, that's the rage with all these goal scorers in the NHL now is the low glove wrister because the guy's thinking you're probably going to go high glove or whatever. And he, I i mean it was a bad goal and it won it's one that can't go in but it's also a 60 goal score coming down untouched ripping one low blocker and didn't rip no no no no no ripping

he ripped no ripping muffin yeah and i beat i'm not gonna defend him too hard but like you need that save in a game seven you absolutely need that that's one of the things where it's like on the whole if you do a letter great for him great he rips it and goes bar under it can't happen i i get that part but that one like it's there his glove is there it just almost like looked like it froze and it couldn't have been nine seconds after one almost bounces in florida's net kul, Kulikov clears the post by this much, and they go back down the other way, and that's the hockey game. You know, I wouldn't even say

Florida was the better team last night. In fact, they weren't. Edmonton was the better team last night, by and large. But, man, they got a bounce or two, and then they shut it down. They got their goaltending back, and they got their blue line back, because outside of Barkov and Bennett, you know those the one two shut down in the middle you know that that blue line came

together last night the gaps were much better the sticks the taking away lanes packing the paint blocking connor looked like connor early in the round i don't know if it was about three and a half minutes to go where he tried to... He blew a wheel a lot. He came up above, just below the blue line, tried to kind of snake his way into the middle of the ice, got stripped by, I think, Tarasenko and Lusterian, and it's gone.

It's out of the zone. And that just didn't happen three games prior. There was three times he made a sharp cut. And I was like, oh. And then he just like half blows an edge. Yeah. And all of a sudden the chances, you know, the stick is poked. And all of a sudden they're going the other way.

So he just didn't quite have it. I thought, you know, very Florida Panthers game. They hit a lot. Their fourth line was really good. They spent a lot of time in the offensive zone. And just there, I saw someone tweeting, a Carolina Hurricanes hurricanes fan who said i've seen florida win this game like a hundred times yeah where they're not better but they don't need to be better they're up in the game and they just play a certain way so to me that is credit to the coaching where it's done

well yeah and you think of because there's a lot of parallels being drawn between game seven of sid's first game seven that was in game seven of Sid's first game seven that was in 2009 and Connor's first game seven in the Stanley Cup final. And there's a lot of these, like when they went, sorry, when Crosby won his first one and look back at that game, Crosby doesn't get a sniff in that game.

I believe he had even ended up hurt. Like, I don't even think he played the last 10 minutes of that game. Max Talbot scores two goals and you look back on that perception so much differently. Yanmark scores one early, they tie it up. You're starting to think that it's minutes of that game. Max Talbot scores two goals. And you look back on that perception so much differently. Janmark scores one early. They tie it up. You're starting to think that it's trending in that direction.

And then McDavid's got a sitter on the goal line, and he can't put it home. And now the perception of him after having a record-setting playoff, it's a cruel game, boys. It's a cruel, cruel game. It is. And for me, it's like he has that sitter, as you called it, because he makes a sick, patient cut to put himself in a position cruel game it is and for me it's like he has that sitter as you called it because he makes a sick patient cut yeah to like put himself in a position to tuck it away so he's

making good plays it just wasn't his knife yeah this one this one stings though when you come that far yeah to put yourself in a position like this and and to lose it all like i remember i remember skating by in 1994 i remember skating by and i don't know if you've seen this shot but it's kind of iconic for vancouver canuck fans and it's trevor linden on one knee bearing his hands in his face and it was like for a split second i was like thank god i don't know how that feels like right now. Yeah. And that's what Connor had last night with his line mates. You just saw the confetti coming down and them going down the hall. It's just like, man, that was part of the reason I think that shot made me think,

like, you can't have this guy come back out now. You know, they got the cups about to be coming out. The ice is packed with people. Anyway, I don't want to talk about that anymore. people the people agree with you guys let's just say yeah the text line is i'm just getting berated so listen hey man i don't think we do need you to be least lose game seven and austin matthews wins it and he doesn't come out i'm gonna know what kipper said on that one no no i'd be on austin's side too yeah sure sure no of course kippy i may be tough but i'm fair so i thought you know in all the post game you guys good to get some kippers paul maurice did not disappoint did he like you know it was like

the mic came to him and there's all this oh he's so great all these interviews palm raised so good do you want instant tears for me do you want that well listen you can't you can't get away with what he says without sincerity you're right and it's not an act and it's not canned and it's just who he is. I've known him for a very long time. I got a chance to work with him here at Sportsnet. We traveled together. This is who he is.

You know the best part about last night for me was listening to the players talk about him. Yeah, they love him, eh? Right? When they gave him the puck to put in number 16, I don't know if you guys saw the video, puts it in the spot and gives it a smack, and the other 15 fell out.

And he's the real deal, right? And our game's better with a guy like that in it. Yeah. He feels like the type of guy who would just poetically just retire right now. Do you guys want to hear the on ice? Sure. I want the one. Okay, we have the one. Let's want the one. Okay. We have the one.

Let's play the one. Ice level. Okay. Alongside Paul Maurice. Paul, you said you needed to win one, and you've got one now. So what's it feel like? It's just brilliant, right? I've never hugged so many sweaty men in my entire life.

I'm not sure I'm going to do it again, but I'm going to do it tonight. So, you know what? It's not what I thought it would be. It's so much better. But it's the hugs, man. I saw Sam Bennett smile today. First time in two years. It's brilliant.

You know, it's for my mom and dad in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. My brothers Mike and Shane in Sault Ste. Marie and Waterloo. The whole Langlois clan and LaSalle Ontario all of the people that suffered through 30 years of me losing making excuses mom and dad especially. Your name's going up with your

heroes. Bellaville. Richard. How. Lindsay. Maurice. Last one for you. the So if I could have one thing more, it would be for the Winnipeg Jets to win the next Stanley Cup. Paul, congratulations. Thanks, Scott. Chris. Did Paul Maurice just one-up Eddie O?

What? Don't you remember Eddie O? No. When they left? No. No. No. Eddie O on the podium said, and when we win, it's coming back to Winnipeg.

You don't remember that one? Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do remember that now. Yes. You Winnipeg'd again. I think Paul Murray's just one-upped Edzo. The Winnipeg quote.

So great. He got a, Kyle got an excellent answer, the third, with the Winnipeg thing. But just that with him saying his dad should have just been like thanks Paul that was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard like I was watching that in my living room legitimately tears in my eyes that's what the Stanley Cup

is right doesn't ask you how many goals you scored doesn't ask you how many games you played doesn't ask you how many games you played doesn't ask you how many times you've been waived traded just wants your name yeah same name as your mom and dad's same as your brothers and sisters and he had that you know connectedness to not make it about himself and recognize that it's about, you know, the men that he came there with, giving them the hugs, the people at home who are a part of the journey.

And it is. It is sort of that sort of uniting thing for so many people. And that was one of the cool reasons. It was cool to have my son stay up at seven years old, turning eight soon, you know, just to kind of get a sense for the gravity that it is for the people who are involved gravity that it is for the people who are involved with winning it and for their families so that was a yeah to me i mean

this is another classic hockey guy take when i said the conspire is most prestigious outside but there's no cup ceremony there's no more genuinely floored people that they won than hockey players. Yeah. Like the post hockey player win guys like Ekblad just F-bomb immediately. It's actually funny. He didn't know. He just was like they just had this look on their face like they're like I can't believe this just happened. Even Barkov

was like I'll probably be able to explain it better later. Yeah. It's like there's no words ad was the all-time best. The best ad. It's atime best NHL ad maybe. It's a disbelief factor, which is amazing. It's surreal. It's just like it's an out-of-body experience. And it's not because it doesn't happen in that moment and it's over.

Like it's a life changer. You are something different then. Your name has to be in the cup champ. I know that sounds ridiculous. Even those last 10 minutes, you don't allow yourself, because of the process you've been and the repetition of it, you don't really, cannot emotionally take yourself to that place until the place is presented to you. You're just horse blind.

You're horse blind and you're like, if there's 10 seconds or 20 seconds, it might as be 20 miles. And I'm not emotionally on that other side yet until I'm on that other side. And that's what you watch in real time. That's the best drama. It's the best reality television ever.

That's why sports is still kicking ass and everybody else is dying. You're right. Right. Sports still through the roof because that is as real as it gets. And you and you and you watch it in front of your own eyes. That feeling of I'm never going to win this to holy crap. I just won this. It's funny.

Paul Maurice's cupplift actually went through all of those stages where he first got it and it was almost a little bit reserved and going through the like, holy crap. You want the clip? Yeah, one sec. But then there's the moment where he just lets her buck and he's like, it's real. Yeah. Let's go ahead and listen to Maurice's clip too.

Let's listen to that. I like that. I thought it was going to be, but I haven't been in the gym in a long time. So there was a slight moment when I'm hanging on and going, am I going to be able to get this thing over my shoulders, right? Because they're all beat up. Anyway, it was heavier than I thought.

Way heavier. But he did. He held it with some pride. He got it up there. 35. 34 and a half. 34 and a half 34 and a half 36 with champagne there you go by the way they absolutely waterboarded some people with beer

and champagne keith kachuk took a pretty sizable face shot yeah some fans from upstairs at the elbow room got a dump of beer that must have been coming at terminal velocity by the time i hit the back of their throat so um entertaining do you want to hear matthew kachuk after he won the on ice with kyle bukaski sure because i think there's some pretty fun talking points off that one all right let's hear matthew kachuk with kyle interesting that he is uh ufa will he be back let's go back to kyle all right alongside matthew kach. You just took a moment there to look out into the crowd after you hoisted that thing over your head. What were you thinking?

I was thinking of my family. But, you know, they're the biggest reason why I'm able to do what I do. You know, my fiancé, my parents, my brother, my sister. I've got such a great support you know system at home and you know so much great family everywhere I mean I've got my family

in Boston my family in Ontario my grandpa Bada in Winnipeg shout out to all of them shout out to my fans in Calgary so you know I couldn't let Edmonton win. A year ago, the broken sternum. Brady had to help you get out of bed in time.

But I wonder what it's going to be like now having him here to celebrate it all. He'll have to get me out of bed tomorrow. I will be in no shape to be moving too well. They're going to be here celebrating with me and i know my brother's gonna do it very soon he's he's an unbelievable player built for playoffs i can't wait to see him play in a playoff to stanley cup final soon he's too good enjoy all of it matt to congrats yeah thanks let's go to david that is one tight family that is i i can't imagine the complicated feelings if you're a calgary Flames fan listening to that.

You got to appreciate what just happened there. Because it's like the Larry David gif where he's like, you know, because I guess he demanded his way out, but you got a return, which we can talk about that too. He kept Edmonton from winning the cup.

And then he says that, like, he might sell if you could chuck Flames. There might be some new ones today. It's still tough. Like, you had him. You had Bennett. Yeah.

Two big, important pieces to a championship. How about Buffalo today? Yeah. Their whole team was like Rodriguez, Montour, Sam Reinhardt, Opozo. Yeah. They were all cup winners. Eichel wins it last year. Oh, my God.

I had the banner, Buffalo. They had a cup contending team if they had just hung on. We just traded them all. Do you want any Coach Knobloch? We're not playing it. No. No, I put it on there for like journalistic. But it's just that.

Balance it out. Do you guys want to listen to Conor McDavid? Oh, I haven't heard the McDavid. And he, usually in the past, it's like lessons learned. We heard from Leon last night going, I've learned lessons. You know, he's got a lesson where it's like we're bounce away or something, you know. It's just, I don't buy into. There's no.

I'm paraphrasing. I like the directness though of generally, you know? It's just, I don't buy into, there's no, I'm paraphrasing. I like the directness though of generally, you know, sort of like the Germans, the Netherlands, these sort of like people are just very, there's nothing left to be learned for a guy like that. We should hear from Connor. Yeah, okay. The saddest clip of all time,

but let's hear Connor McDavid clip one. Yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult. You got to go through a grueling season. It's difficult. It's difficult. You've got to go through a grueling season. It's long. You've got to go through four high-end opponents, and you've got to beat them four times. I mean, it's as difficult to do as you can think. It's tough. Guys that have won it say the same thing.

It's tough. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was going to be. You know what? It could have been AI generated. I would not want to see another game from these two guys or these two teams. Like, it's run its course.

I think the inconsistencies that we've seen over the past 10 days 11 days i don't know what it is 13 yeah forever because it's been forever i actually think it's more than that i i think or 17 i think what we saw last night of edmonton like hitting their wall last night and prior to that florida hitting their wall and only to come back last night has everything to do that we're we're like days away from july 1st how much how much blood do you want to take out of these guys they're like it's too late like you like to say they can't piss a drop they got nothing nothing yeah nothing i do they had nothing left no i do feel like if these two teams played a best of 99, someone wins 50 to 49. Yeah, it really does

feel that way. It was just going to go on like this. They'd run out of gas. Yeah. Game 8. Yeah. They would have nothing left in Game 8. And you really even felt it in the third period of that game when Edmonton was up. You're like, feels like they're going to maybe be able to muster

two or three more pushes here the whole period. With 30 seconds of dry saddle could not. No, had nothing left. But then you factor in those days offs and then trying to re- Travel. Travel and then regenerate your, you know, all that excitement. And then you lose and you get nothing to show for it. Other than the con smite, I guess, for Connor.

They're going to drag him to the awards too? No, he won't go. And put him up in the lobby to sign autographs? No shot. Like what's left for him to be asked to do? Hopefully nothing. You know? That's the hard part here.

And I wrote today. If you're going to go to the draft now, really? In what, days? Yeah. And you're going to, you're you're gonna you're asking the hockey world to stop paying attention to a three-day champion and focus on the draft now yeah hey i mean listen 20 minutes before the puck drop there's a massive trade last year's vesna trophy was traded a trophy winner was traded to ottawa like as we're waiting for puck drop which the league

could not have liked that but i imagine i bet you anything it ends earlier next year it cannot be can i ask you something like between ottawa and boston what's keeping you from not announcing it until like i thought today today this morning it must have come out and they wanted to get ahead of the media who cares you're right you right. You're right. Who absolutely cares? You know there's no game after last night. It almost felt spiteful. It did. I know that's a silly thing to say, but it almost...

What was the point? What was the point of announcing that? I don't know. Maybe you're right. Hey, NHL office, we've got business to do, right? We've got business to do. You've given us no more time. We've got a draft coming up. we're taking care of our business and uh don't care about your game seven

um yeah do you want actually we got one more really good paul marie's clip tells an awesome story so let's play that before we go to break paul marie's clip three i hit the rick really early in the morning so when i come in yesterday we've got this big bank of six TVs, and one of them has a network on it I want. And the banner is, and I'm going to f*** you, if the Florida Panthers lose, is this the biggest collapse in sports history? That damn thing is sitting on the TV. And, you know, you're waiting for, like, roll it, people.

Let's move it. 15 minutes so i'm waiting by the door for my video guy to come in and say so we have these banks it's a new rink right we have that all over get that network off our tv because i'm sitting there going and i don't like it i'm 57 but what happens if you're 25 and you're going, I'm going to live 50 more years of being a part of the biggest collapse in sports history? From the loss to the drop of the puck, something has to change and something has to get better, and that would be where I think I worked. Once the puck stopped, I was done working. And I liked our first, so it was good.

Man. The first goal, guys, that just changed. What a tip. It just felt like it changed everything. I don't know. It comes right back and they score. But still, Florida's not down then. You're not

oh-oh. There wasn't a sense of oh-oh, here we go again. The start was too good to go, oh, no, more of the same. It was like, oh, yeah, we can win this. Fantastic tip. Great tip. Fantastic. Cody Ceci to Matthias Janmark. Yeah, just a little, quick little leaf fan twist of the knife.

Cody Ceci, two-zone saucer, tape to tape. That was a little little. Matthias Janmark is the greatest player in the NHL, not named Connor. He's been amazing. He looked unbelievable. But he had like four goals and then four goals. Yeah. But it felt like in the final.

Without the goals. Like he just every time he had the puck and I, there's this, what's his number? There's a seven in it. Right. Cause I kept being like, is it 13? I don't know why I thought he looked like McDavid numerous times. It's like, oh, my God.

Anyways, let's go to break. You got game time on the other side. Plus, I don't know. Do we get to talk now about other things in the NHL? The Leafs. Finally, the Leafs. Oh, no. Thank God.

It's Leafs time again. Oh, no. Oh, no. Don't believe him, everybody. We'll keep it to a dull roar when it comes to Sammy and Leaf talk more real Kipper and Bourne after the break teeing up the

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Nick Kipper, Justin Bourne, Sammy McKee. As if we don't have enough news to get out, the Hall of Fame announced their induction for fall. Before we get to that, I got to do game time. All right, I'm teasing it. Okay, good. Boy, I'm kind of dreading that first block. Talking about Connor, I'm going to take a beating from the Oilers fans. I've been getting killed in my DMs for the last little while

by Oilers fans for picking against him in every round and all this stuff. Like, you know, this is what I got. I've been getting killed in my DMS for the last little while by Oilers fans for picking against him in every round and all this stuff. And then I just said, Connor should have gone out there and I just have take regret sometimes. All right. That's all right. You're Sammy.

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I like that. And if you parlay that with a win, I'm not sure what I just lost my page. But yeah, a big number Canada just to score is plus 200 as well. So, so now the Peru coach said that if they have to fist fight the Canadians, they will. Yes, they did say that.

Oh, now I'm really watching. Yeah. But hockey playing nation. Where did that stem from? Are we a physical team? Is that what he was answering? Or did he watch game seven? I don't know.

I'm a soccer fan but yeah you're not reading peru's press clippings it looked to me it looked pretty soccery to me like they were both teams were flopping around the whole game so maybe they thought it was a little bit more physical than others so anyways that's uh what's going on tonight starts at six so i like canada as a favorite plus 120 come on fellas score a goal we can do it and that was game time presented by bet 365 is the athlete of stars and find out why it's ever ordinary at bet 365 let's be 19 plus on terror only please play responsibly you didn't want to throw in a will the jays win again this season no i honestly i am pretending they don't exist until i gotta start talking about a midway

through july so i'm gonna pretend that doesn't exist i think called off was it martinez and he got banned for 80 games yeah all right yeah did anybody know that the hall of fame was going to make the announcements today i didn't you know why kip there's some other stuff going on the the morning after game seven it's like i just find it like mind-boggling that like you that you're trying to jam so much in in such a short period of time. It's a mess. So who are the inductees? Should we turn to our producer for that?

Sammy, give us some names here. Hold on, hold on. I got to pull up. I just had it here. Give me the Jeopardy music, please. The inductees to the Hockey Hall of Fame class for 2024. The male players are Pavel Datsyuk. Oh, yeah.

Locke, obviously. Excellent player. Jeremy Roenick. Wow. JR. Waiting a while. JR is in. Oh, let's hear that speech.

Oh, boy. Let's go. And Shea Weber. Okay. Shea Weber. Yeah. Not to argue that. I mean, those three are guys who are very good at hockey absolutely the female players are natalie darwitz uh christy wendell pole and the builders are david poyle and colin campbell there you go congratulations yeah congrats to all yep so there you go great video my dad sucker punching Colin Campbell on YouTube

really? you probably just like me we're going to get Coley on the show I think we had him on once no we did have him on once we did have him on I think you're right in season one I think we did

I'm just googling that punch really quick oh yeah I remember this one now yeah Tono McGilney yeah well Season one, I think we did. I'm just Googling that punch really quick. Oh, yeah. I remember this one now. Yeah. That's a good one. Tono McGilney. Yeah. Well, he took a couple of major steps, did he not, to get to the NHL? Yeah.

He defected and... Yeah. But, I mean, that's... I don't know. That aside... There's still a lot of names out there that are right where Jeremy Roenick is, right? Yeah. McGilney's there, is it pat for beak the other one gets a lot of attention yeah yeah something about i think past 2 000 penalty

minutes that scares the voters off yeah maybe i don't know that could be related dale hunter a game changer for you no no but anyways hall of fame moving on okay um before we get into maybe some other stuff around the league any concerns at all about the oilers moving forward here outside of you know if if they do find themselves back in a stanley cup final what would the team look like what do they need to do any concerns about leon dry saddle moving forward here so i know in the athletic they've got an article today about there are some concerns it's that mcdave and dry saddle are on the verge of making a lot more money um there's a lot of ufas some of their core guys are older at home kane hyman they're rnh they're 30 plus i don't have any concerns

this to me all the pillars of a great team the best team in the west are coming back and they're going to have cap money to spend they just got to replace guys at the fringes and the depth guys about 10 million which isn't a ton no they don't have as much money as you'd like to have i think seven forwards and five d but it's great forwards indeed it's they have a great returning group. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying it's going to be as perfect as they are now, but they got time over the season to get there.

You hope for the recipe that the Florida Panthers just had, where they finally, the Panthers broke through, they got to the final, lose to Vegas, who was a better team. I wrote the very thing. The last three cup champions in the last five years before they won the cup, they went to cup finals, conference finals, just like Edmonton has. I think I get a sense between Dreisaitl and McDavid that first and foremost,

I get a sense that they're going to want to play the rest of their careers together. You think so? Yeah. Really? Just a feel. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it really has a chance to be a really, really unique negotiation.

And I think that, first of all, I don't see any Russian to Leon Dreisaitl. I don't believe for one second July 1st means anything to him. So he's in the same boat as Mitch Martin. He's got another year. I think he's going to, there's a good chance he could start next season without a contract and just kind of work its way into a position where even though McDavid's two years and he's one year, they're going to have to kind of work together in getting an idea of what the future could mean in Edmonton,

not only for them personally, but the team around. How much money do they want to take together? And I've said this right from the get-go, that it's not whether or not Leon Dreis saddle is going to make 14 15 or 16 million it's whether or not leon and connor will make 31 million 33 million or 35 million the other thing kept though is the projection of the salary cap and you've talked about percentage of the cap for superstars the cap you know being 83.5 this past year going up to 88 yeah you know that's they're still paid in those years it's going to go up over those eight years into the hundred there's a lot of there's there's a lot of agents that believe that i think they're going short the number

is announced as the number but there's there's a sense that the number is being held down. So you can tell me that we're negotiating a percentage off the cap of 88, when I think it's really like 95 or 100, or I'm going to negotiate off 105, because moving forward, they have the opportunity to play with that number. New CBA or what? What's that? With a new CBA?

How do they have the opportunity to play with the number? Just revenues are so high. New CBA and how much can it bump up when it turns? Yeah, you're not negotiating an $88 million cap. It's not even close. In all honesty, the cap at this point with the new revenue streams coming in, the board rink ads, the new TV money out of the states. The league looks good right now.

A lot of agents are saying that number should be a lot higher. NBA is just making mockery of it. Oh, my God. How about Barnes? That's $50 million? Yeah. Per season. $275. nba is just making right mockery of it oh my god how about barnes and i've had 50 million yeah per season connor mcdavid the greatest hockey player on the planet scraping by you know it's easy and scraping to jump up a million or two guys gotta go buy his own hey you can't ask for a million dollar raise that's too much yeah i know i do think that

these guys should get as much money. And not those two specifically, but like the superstars need to start getting paid. Yeah, that's the way I see Edmonton's future moving forward is McDavid and Dreisaitl and those two getting together and saying, you know, what's it going to look like for us? And in many ways, almost negotiating together. In Edmonton.

In Edmonton. That's from my view right now. I do think it would make sense, if you look at elite players in other leagues, and I think of like LeBron in the NBA, who signed, he's been signing one-year deals for a decade, right? You know, one plus a player option or whatever. They want to know how's

the league look how's our team look you know where do i want to be then i want that flexibility i've got enough money now i'm not saying that these guys are going to do that but four-year contracts to me make a lot more sense to say let me take a look at things i don't want to lock myself into i'd also like it to be just more than just the least players that do that short-term ones too yeah be nice to see somebody else take floor for once. Sammy, it's your floor, man. Where do you want to take us? What Leafs story?

No, no, we should do it. We should do Walmart. Okay. I think she's given an opinion on that trade. That was a big trade that happened. Way to go, Ottawa. Way to go. I think it's an upgrade in goal.

For sure. A couple texts from the text line, including our boy Jeremy and me, that says maybe they were trying to spite the league because of them, Robin them first round pick and the Dan and off thing. I can see that. I can see that as a middle finger to the league.

Yeah. Okay. I think there's a home run trade for the sets. Yeah. I mean, you upgrade your golden. Like I said, Omar literally was up for the Vesna or won the Vesna last year.

So, you know, goalies can be good older. Yeah. I think it's an upgrade for sure i'm i'm interested to see all mark playing in ottawa then what we then behind boston then behind boston yeah so we'll find out how good all mark is the other thing too is is there a sense that he's he's a lock to sign an extension?

I mean, I don't know. You tell me. Is there? I'm not sure. I'm not sure if there's an extension already in place and if it isn't and he walks in a year, it's a hell of a gamble. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, is it, you get off the, most of the contract to Corpus Allo, you trade

a first round pick for a full year of a good goalie when you're trying to be good and then a four or i've never heard of i don't think it's the biggest gamble that's an asset keep them though you got to keep them you know for sure but like if it's a one-year thing i don't think it's like a massive disaster if he's good and they make the playoffs and it's like well they gave up a first yeah but everybody gives up first for everything okay all right back to the nba I'm okay with that. Ask Kyle Dubas. Okay. You want to talk about?

Joe Wall. Joe Wall. Yeah. Kevin Weeks mentioned that he might already be close to or have a deal done in place. Three years times three and a half, four. Three and a half, four. See, I go.

Great. What's the rush? Yeah. He's got one more year at minimum entry level? Yeah. Yeah. Don't you want to prove to me that you can stay healthy first? Yeah, probably.

But then if he proves to you, you can stay healthy, and he has an excellent year, you have to pay him $7 million. McGroarty may want to leave Winnipeg. That could happen in the next day. Top prospect there. Rector McGroarty is the hardest thing. This is a goofy story for a guy that wanted to be there. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't understand what's happening. Yeah, well, I'll explain it to you tomorrow. More time to stretch your legs tomorrow, boys. We have more time, and we will have more time on the Real Kipper and Board Show. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great night, everybody.