Real Kyper & Bourne - Jets Staying Atop the Central + A Boston Rift?

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Nick Kypreos and Justin Bourne are joined by Sportsnet and Hockey Night in Canada's Sean Reynolds (6:36) to chat about the Winnipeg Jet's sustainability staying atop of the central division, plans ahead of the trade deadline, expectations for Cole Perfetti's and Nikolaj Ehlers' next contract, and Patrik Laine in a Jets uniform vs. Habs uniform. Then, Nick, Justin and Sam McKee discuss the rumours surrounding a rift between David Pastrňák and Brad Marchand.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

Welcome into the national hour live on sports at six 15 Vancouver Sports Night 60 in Calgary this hour of real kipper and born brought to you by bet 365 Nick Kiprios Justin born Sammy McKee Derek Brandeo and Jake the snake Schultz in a few minutes we'll welcome in Sean Reynolds Sports Night reporter Winnipe Hockey Night Canada does a terrific job covering a lot of things out west for us. Glad he's back on. Our good buddy Doug McLean is traveling today. Yeah, where's he to?

I don't know. Where are you to, boy? Maybe he just quit. Maybe he just quit. Maybe he had enough of us. Probably, Jill probably told him, can't do it again. I mean, if you're coming in here, we're not supposed to talk with the Leafs in the national hour,

but I will say I am just, I'm coming down off, I'm coming down off a high of the Leafs line. If you're, even if you're a Vancouver fan, listen to this, go back and let's do our podcast and listen to the people calling in, because that was hilarious. We may introduce it for the NHL hour. Oh no, no, it's a must. Oh we are. It's a lock.

It's a voicemail account that you can call, leave your message, and we will play it on the air and respond. And rip on Sammy, please. For turning our national shirt. Show always somehow some way back to the Leafs. Yeah. Anyway, sorry guys, but listen to it because it's great. Yeah. Maybe we'll do it for Monday and they can hear you cry if Vancouver beats the Leafs on Saturday night.

Big contest. Big contest tomorrow. Yeah. I think this is an awesome game every year and as much as Toronto people love to be like, oh, it doesn't matter to us. It I will say like the Leafs Vancouver has always been a great rivalry and when the Leafs from the Western Conference it was our even better rivalry which the Leafs from the Western Conference was insane but I really really look forward I get up for Vancouver games I'm excited. You know what's crazy to

me is even like coming on this show and hearing Kipper say you know that Sean covers stuff for us out west. When you grow up out west, do you know how far east Winnipeg is? Yes. It's across the continent. So that Winnipeg is west. So what do I say from the middle of the country? Yeah. Central Canada. Middle on out. Yeah, exactly. All right. So we got Sean coming on. We got a lot of Boston Bruins. Canucks fans will be thrilled to know we're gonna give the Bruins the Canucks treatment are we not we're gonna talk about pasta and Marchand do you want to do that now or you want to save that?

We'll save it we can have a little little preamble touch on it yeah I did not hear it the first I've heard about this this broon story is sammy telling me Two minutes before we went on air that Someone stirred it up in boston Talking about marshand and pasternak not getting along. So, of course the parallels are right there in vancouver between jt miller and peterson and between JT Miller and Patterson and one's been an ongoing issue in Vancouver for the last little while. This one starts up right away and you know, I know we're going to talk about it later,

at least listen to Brad Marchand later, but it's drawing some parallels today. Yeah. And I'll just note that the only thing I said yesterday that Miller and Petey could have come out with, you know, a picture of them with a smoothie and two straws Sharing it together and been like we're fine and everyone been like, oh, okay, that's good And that's essentially what more Shan did today. He said pasta is my best friend It's literally what he said as fast as my best friend. So Pass is my best friend too on Saturday nights. Yeah, fair enough. With a little bit of olive oil on there.

Well, you know, that team is kind of ripe for some drama here. You lose a bunch that now lost. They've now lost six in a row after, you know, already firing their coach and getting the quote unquote, you know, the bounce from that. And now they've lost six in a row. They're not very good. Tampa skated circles around him last night They didn't look very good

So we'll get more into that after Sean and the other one that jumped out for me last night is just the sense boy I just want to note the win by winning percentage the Bruins are now behind Montreal Really? Yeah by winning percent because they played a lot of games. I've had it played 44 months I'll just 40 Patterson has been activated again coming off injury reserve, okay So I should be ready to go against the Carolina tonight. This is his future team, right? So great great call there. I Don't think that's an unreasonable suggestion but yes also

Big door open for some team in the East. I wrote about it earlier this week door open for some team in the East. I wrote about it earlier this week. How every team can sneak in. Ottawa had the highest odds of any team outside the playoffs, 59% chance of making playoffs. And then they just got beat up by the Sabres yesterday. And my first thought is a all mark matters a lot to that team, right? That's a significant loss. But also that's a, that's a crummy showing. That's a loser showing. but also that's a That's a crummy showing that's a loser showing I really hated that like playing Buffalo and laying an egg Yeah, they're The Omar thing is Is really too bad because he had a stretch where he was like all world

Mm-hmm. Yeah from this is from the SportsCenter website from Alex Adams. Same old issues haunt the Center's slide. Sometimes the game of aberration and teams play and sometimes the perfect example of what's going wrong with the team. On Thursday, dumb mistakes, inability to score, and missing Linus Olmark. There you go. It's not that many complicated factors. Carolina had a big win, or not Carolina, Columbus had a big win too, last night. Yeah, Columbus. They're not going away.

No, they're now solidly in wild card too. They're what Ottawa was just two short weeks ago with Omar on fire. And I think you're going to see this. You're going to see teams over the next few weeks have their runs get hot Get whole cold hit certain parts of the parts of the schedule where it just easier and harder So Columbus is the team of the day. I don't think they're the team of the year, but Pittsburgh sniffing around there, too Did you see the?

Ridley Gregg contract? I did. I think it's a good deal for Ottawa. Yeah, I think it is too. I guess it depends. Four years, $13 million extension on Friday. All right, we got Sean. Okay, let's bring him in. Sean Reynolds, Sportsnet reporter in Winnipeg,

Hockey Night in Canada. Sean, always a pleasure having you on our show. How are things going out there? Always a pleasure to be on. Things are going great out here. Yeah, weather's nice in Winnipeg and covering a team that just keeps going. And they snap a three game losing streak, so that always helps that it isn't a four or five game losing streak. Things, things kind of settled in after their torrid start. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you guys, I remember I was on and you'd asked, is it sustainable? You know, when I think they've gone 15 and one in their first 16.

And obviously that wasn't sustainable. I've been saying it about this Jets team for years, they get to their game quicker than most other teams do. They've got to, you know, there's not a lot of roster rollover and there's not a lot of guys who don't know what their role is, their identity is. So the Jets got off to a hot start since then. So that 16 game mark I was talking about, they're two games over 500 since then. So you'll see these little stretches of hockey started you know around Christmas time they went on a four-game winning streak there and

it was four really good teams including Ottawa when they were on a heater there and they kind of laid a beating on those teams. You know one of those was going into Toronto and taking down a really hot Toronto Maple Leafs team at that time who's been really great this season. And then you get what you got where they had the three-game losing streak that followed right after that four-game winning streak. So they're up, they're down. That's typically what the Jets end up being around this time of the year.

And two really big tests, you know, tonight against LA, who really, I thought, kind of just ground the Jets into the ground beating them at their own game the last time they played and then of course Colorado who really is kind of in skating circles around the Jets. The season series is one and one but the first game that they played Colorado absolutely dominated them and Connor Hellebuck threw up a Connor Hellebuckian effort and they won one nothing if I remember correctly but they've got some work to do to show that they're on the same ice level as Colorado Sean was talking about the Jets the other day was talking about Hellebuck and how a

Hall-of-fame goaltender, you know, I think at some point we're gonna be covering his speech that he's giving and Most of the time those guys have a run a playoff year If you are one of the elite goalies There's usually some performance where you know you oh they drag this team whatever I think this you know this is the time right he's do you we know what a great goal tender he is and It feels like the bottom of the West is soft enough that you know finishing first and getting a wild-card team could really open the door For that do you think they're gonna get aggressive? that finishing first and getting a wild card team could really open the door for that. Do you think they're gonna get aggressive?

Do you think they're gonna see a genuine opportunity this year and change the team? Or is it like we trust the way we're winning and this is good enough? Yeah, they won't change it. They're gonna do exactly what they did last year. So this is the same team that they had for the majority of the season last year.

And then they needed a 2C, so they went out and they added Shawn Monahan Then they wanted some help on the wing because Cole Perfetti was kind of disappearing at points throughout the season So they went out and they got Tyler Tafoli and they needed some help I think they tried to you know get a bigger Name on the back end and Colin Miller, but that's what they ended up getting they got a little bit of depth I think you're gonna see them try and do the exact same thing this year That's a way of saying that they really do trust their first line. They love their third line. Their fourth line does the job they think they needed to do. You've got Connor Hellebuck

in net. They probably do need some more size on the back end because I had thought last year Nacushkin just did whatever he wanted in that first round series that they knocked the Jets out. So I see them doing the exact same thing as they did last year. They'll be trying to fill those exact same roles. Maybe they don't have to replace Cole Profetti if he can kind of wake up. But we're seeing from him what we saw from him last year. When he's on, he's really on. But when he's off, he's really on but when he's off he's really off and and it's he's off for too long of stretches of hockey to kind of trust that he's gonna find some consistency come playoff time when when playing his hardest so Sean where where's Nick Ehlers in all of this in terms of one of a handful of big name UFAs coming down. Yeah, he's, I mean, there's a pitch here this season

because I know that the, you know, under in the Paul Maurice years, in the Rick Bones years, there's a little bit of a feeling that this was an underutilized player. Scott Arneal came in, said one of the first things he did after he was fired was talked about the importance of Nick Ealers and how they were gonna need him this season. He's followed through on that. Nick Ealers going along at near a point per game clip. So he's having his best season ever. He's getting all kinds of opportunities

on the first power play. It's really clicking because of him. I mean, you wanna answer the question of why the Jets power play went from not very good last year to really good this year. You know, Davis Payne has a lot to do with that, but adding Nick Ehlers into the mix has definitely helped them there. And he's kind of getting it done almost, I don't want to say alone on the second line, but you're talking about a guy who's, you know, at a point-per-game clip, besides Vladislav

Nemeskov, who's nowhere near that, or Cole Perfetti, who's nowhere a point-per-game clip beside Vladislav Nemeskov who's nowhere near that or Cole Profetti who's nowhere near that. He's getting it done in spite of the situation that he's in. Will it be enough to convince him to stick around next season? I've been saying this since the beginning. I think you've got a player who's in his late 20s and has been probably feeling like he's been underutilized his whole career. Scott Arneal is doing a valiant job trying to say,

hey, under our coaching staff, you're going to be treated like a star and we're gonna give you these opportunities. I just think it may be a little bit too late for a player who even still on that second line, you know, does it, he's not in the best situation. He doesn't have a superstar second-line center beside him So he may be it may be too tempting for him to look around the league and see all that's out there in the different

Scenarios he could be playing Sean is there a sense of what he's looking for? Because I haven't really I haven't really heard as as much as I've heard other names out there on what He thinks his marketplace may be the number or the number Winnipeg would be willing to go to? Oh geez well I the answer is no I can't tell you right now he wants this dollar figure in that. No but is there a feel is there a feel for does he think he might be in that that that eight eight seven to eight six and a half like where where do you where would you see him with your experience of what following this team yeah so he's already in the sixes the thing that there's an internal cap now though in

winnipeg right because connor hellebuck went and signed a deal that i think is just and at the time i thought it was an absolute steal. Everyone was thinking he was going to be one of these $10 million goal tenders, and then he goes out and he signs matching contracts with Mark Shafely at 8.5. So to me, that number, a player isn't getting above that. Maybe they'll go above that with Kyle Connor, who will be an unrestricted free agent after next season if he doesn't extend or re-sign. But we all know where the markets headed right now and we all know that there's gonna be more space and so because of that players are gonna make

more. To answer your question I hope I'm doing service of it Nick but I think that the ability for him to go get money on the open market is going to be more than what the Jets, I think, would be willing to pay because it's going to be bumping up against the idea of what Mark Schaife. I'm thinking he's already in the sixes, so I'm thinking 7.5 is probably a number that he's probably going to be getting in around. Whether the Jets are willing to pay that, it's tough to get that kind of talent in Winnipeg, so maybe they would, but at the same time, I still think it's not just

dollars figures that we're looking at here. He's looking at getting out in a situation with a team that says, come in here, we want to use you, we want to showcase you. That hadn't happened for the most part in Winnipeg for the majority of his years until this year. Sean, the Jets have had some interesting personalities and I don't want to say personality clashes necessarily, but with Wheeler and Linais and you know, there's like, you know, teams, there's stuff that happens. And so you have some experience seeing that and then seeing what's going on in Vancouver and seeing what's going on with Boston. I don't know if you heard today, it's kind of a rumor that Marchand already put out,

but that him and Pasta kind of are at odds. How much do you think that affects teams? And is it a product of them just losing hockey games? So the story comes up or are they losing hockey games because of what's happening behind closed doors? Well, it's funny, you brought up a great comparison. I'm glad you're asking about this because when the situation started happening in In Vancouver all I kept hearing about that situation

I don't have any insight into that bone you hear Elliott's reports and people are talking about Vancouver It sounds like the the Wheeler 2.0 situation here and listen I think the Winnipeg Jets did a really good job for the most part of surviving while that was going on but like It's obvious right Rick bonus came in and said this culture needs Changing and eventually they had to buy Blake Wheeler out the Winnipeg Jets were, in my opinion, the best team in hockey in 2018. I thought they were going to win the Stanley Cup that year. And then the next year they were set up to do it again and everything kind of fell apart. And you can say they ran

into a hot blues team and that's the truth. They lost in six. But they also kind of did a little bit of a swan dive, which they've become very much known for in the second half of the season that year. I think from the stories that we've heard, from the reports that we had out of the dressing room, there was a lot of stuff going on. There was a lot of, we've had players, I know one player who came out of the dressing room and said that he thought it was a really bad culture in that dressing room. Sorry, I should say more than one player. That affects things. I think the Winnipeg Jets were a potential cup winner, not just in 2018, but definitely

in 2019 and could have done, you know, this is that team we keep talking about, you know, can't seem to get past that first round. I think the culture issues had a huge had a huge effect on that happening. So when that starts kind of boiling over, I don't think that you can really get past that. I mean, Nick will be able to tell you, if you want to win, you need a team that's kind of all on the same page, right? Not every guy needs to like each other, but you need to have each other's backs.

And when it gets to the point where players don't feel like each other, have each other's backs, then it gets pretty rough. You might be a great guy to ask this because you've you're in Winnipeg and you kind of went through this whole culture adjustment. And yes, hindsight is 2020. And you know, when I think of Patrick Lon a one time going neck and neck with Austin Matthews as the up-and-coming superstars yeah, and you know, where did that fit in the equation of of

you know stalling his development or Not leaving him in the most nurturing environment and how it may have affected on on maybe where he is today. Mm hmm. Yeah, I think it played a massive issue. I don't think the room was a very comfortable place for him talking with people. And listen, Patrick line, it was a guy who to a degree Nick flashed with traditional hockey right? Like he may have been the kind of player that when you were in the dressing room,

you would have looked and been like, what's the deal with this kid, right? Because he went out and you're in this Jets room that is really, really a focused room on guys who work out like crazy. Like they're the Hulk Hogan team, they eat their vitamins, they say their prayers, they do all these kind of things. Like their watch goes off

and they're eating at this specific time and that wasn't Patrick Lainé. Here this kid walks in and rips 36 goals in his rookie year and then 44 in the next year and he's eating candy and playing video games until the middle of the night, right? So it definitely was a clash in that situation there. It clashed to the degree that I don't think it became very comfortable for him. I do think Patrick Lainaine said early and he was a very comfortable person talking with us in the media. I always got the sense he loved Winnipeg and wanted to be there for a really long time. So when things

turned and from the things I heard that you know were going on in the room, I think it wasn't a comfortable place for him and he needed to get out. I think all the signs that Rick Bonas saw later that needed to be changed, the culture of the team, that's the culture that bit Patrick Lione. So he goes and he heads out. But I mean, there's a degree of, you know, from what I've heard of similar things happening when he was in Columbus, Patrick Lione is a unique individual and we know that hockey is changing. We know

that it's becoming a lot more accepting of different personalities. Maybe, you know, maybe weirder personalities. Maybe some guys who are... Sammy's on our show! Anything goes! But, but you know, Nick, there was a certain specific guy when you were playing in the 90s. You had to be this if you were gonna fit in with hockey culture. And now we're starting to see that hockey culture is getting a little bit bigger, a little bit wider. I still think Patrick Lion is a little bit out there

on the spectrum, but look what he does. I mean, look at that shot. What did he, eight power play goals already in Montreal. If you can find a way to make it work with this guy, the one thing that he does is he loves hockey, you know, and he'll go out and he'll do really great things for you, but at the same time I can tell you from talking with players who are in the room with them that they were rubbed the wrong way by how he approached the game. So I think I thought Montreal was a great place for him to go because I thought

Marty St. Louis was the perfect coach to kind of Rekindle his love of the game Which I think is the driving factor on whether he performs or not and then just maybe try and find a way to get him To fit in and around that team. It looks like it's working in Montreal Well, it's crazy right like since he got there the team is red hot and I'm not saying it's because he's there But it's yeah, you know, they've been a lot better. What do you make of that group by winning percentage today? Like they're pretty close to a playoff spot, which is insane to say.

Yeah, it's, I mean, they came in and they played in early December, they played the Jets. And if you remember, Patrick Lyonnaione came in and he made that crack about Hellebuck always having the patty flu right and I loved that I loved the fact that he's going in and taking you know a goalie starting to look like the best goalie of a generation and he's picking a fight with that guy right and and I loved what happened on the ice after now it burnt the Canadians to a degree because Patrick

Lione had like eight shots that game and seven of them were lasers labeled right on the inside of the post and Conor Hellebuyck found a way to stop them. Conor Hellebuyck won that game for the Winnipeg Jets. But you know what? I'm okay with that if I'm Marty St. Louis and the rest of the Montreal Canadiens. Now at one time, you know, maybe in the in the 90s or in the 80s or whatever, a player would have gone over to him in the dressing room afterwards and said, shut up, you woke up there, goaltender and you know, blah, blah, blah. I think the Canadians looked at that and were like, hey, the kid called the other guy out and he went and performed. He got outperformed by the other guy, but he went in, he backed it up in that game. And we, you know,

like, I like that swagger. I like that we're having fun out here. That's a young group. I think fun is really important with a young group. They're having fun. They've got a coach who's, you know, able to manage that, but at the same time, keep them focused and moving forward. So I think he's a fit there.

Um, like, like you're saying, Justin, it's not all him. Clearly this is a good team and they've been doing it without him for a little while. But having that little bit of that swagger, having that guy who can shoot like that, having the reaction that you get from the Habs faithful when he's doing that, because I can tell you this, being in the Winnipeg building for so many years,

when he would let that shot go, it's one of those things that you just, it takes you out of your seat. It's a wow factor. And if you bring a wow factor to Montreal, they're going to elevate it. So I think it's just part of the way that that culture is fitting with the fans and the team and the coaching staff. Everyone's having fun. It's mixing well. I think Patrick Lanay plays a role in it. He's not all of it. A lot of great players there, but he's a good fit. Sean, we're seeing Dallas and Colorado in the central start to make a move here a

little bit. If by chance that they, they catch Winnipeg, would that be seen as a, a major disappointment coming off that start? Oh, I think you'd have to like they had such a head start. And I mean, we've got hockey night in Canada tomorrow between Winnipeg and Colorado. And it's one of the things I'm going to talk about, like the lead that they had on these teams. But the one thing, you know, I thought this was fascinating, Nick. I don't know how it was back in your day when you were on good teams, but I talked to Tavs,

Devontae's early in the year, and I asked him about the rough start that they were having. And he was like, man, we're going to be trying to figure out our identity until Christmas time. If we're still stumbling at Christmas time, then we're going to be concerned. But this is a team that understands that like bringing in new players, you know, new speaks to the system, all these kinds of things. It takes a while to figure it out. And that team had given themselves until Christmas to figure it out. Well, it's after Christmas. Now they're rolling, now they're going, they finally got goaltending. I would think, so like the Jets were so far ahead, we'd said at the beginning of the year,

after that 16 game start, if they went 500 for the rest of the year, that should get them into the playoffs. It wasn't a challenge. It wasn't a challenge for them to go 500, because that's the mark they're kind of close to. They lose these next two games, and that's what we're talking about. They've been a 500 hockey club since that time. So Dallas is going now. I think we always knew they were going to. Something about the avalanche makes them feel like a little bit more of a wild card whether they'll pop in there. But like the Central

Division is stocked. And to your guys' points what you said something about you know the the wild card down the bottom of the West I think you need to finish first place in the West because otherwise you are going to be getting if you're the jet or yeah if you're the Jets you're gonna be getting one of the Colorado Avalanche the Dallas Stars or the Minnesota Wild I like their chances to get the Minnesota Wild, but the Minnesota Wild will take their pound of flesh. Oh yeah. Dallas is really good and will take their pound of flesh, and the Jets struggle with the speed

that the Avalanche brings. So if the Jets can't catch the Golden Knights and finish in first and take on that last seed which will be, you know, either Vancouver or Calgary, or maybe St. Louis or Utah or something like that, that to me seems to be the only real reward for finishing at the top of the conference because finishing second place isn't going to be much of a reward. Back to back tonight for the Winnipeg Jets, LA Kings and Colorado. We look forward to those games. Hey Sean, always a pleasure man. Thanks for doing this. Great insight. Yeah, anytime. Love being on with you guys. Thanks buddy. Appreciate it. That is Sean Reynolds, Sportsnet Reporter, Winnipeg, and of course, Hockey Night in Canada.

Elite hat owner too. Fantastic stuff there from Sean. It is a Winnipeg and the way things have gone there, it is a bit of a cautionary tale. I mean, I guess not because they're good now, so it's a tough one, but they went through that weird time after Lion A and Wheeler. But they had to cut bait. They did. They needed did decision to move on from a guy. Yeah, and we learned but it's a little different with Wheeler with the point of his career He's at line a though. It wasn't was not he was at the anyways So be more aggressive LA Kings tonight LA Kings are on a five game Road swing here say we're doing okay.

And like, I mean, we got to send out our thoughts and our prayers to everybody out in Southern California who continue to battle. Once again, it's just, it doesn't even look real. The pictures don't look real. It's like looking at someone walk on another planet. It's truly horrifying. And it's like, you know, you talk about horrific, I get to, you know, not to make the Hollywood thing, but it looks like a movie that you've seen like a disaster movie in LA. Like it's, it's so scary. So I mean, we're thinking of everybody we know our show goes out,

you know, podcasts and YouTube. And we're thinking of people that know our show goes out, you know podcasts and YouTube and We're thinking of people that you are either there or know of family friends You know our our thoughts and prayers are out to you guys, but I mean At least the kings are out on the road it's they're not at home. They're not canceling games, you know, I mean I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Obviously you're on the road. They're not at home. They're not canceling games. You know, I mean, I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Obviously, you're on the road. You're thinking about your house. It is a friend like postponed. Yeah, Calgary.

Calgary was postponed and then they had this scheduled Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Seattle. They're not scheduled to go back home till January 20th. Wow. But I don't know like what's going to be waiting for them there. They're not scheduled to go back home till January 20th. But I don't know what's going to be waiting for them there. Can you imagine you're just like you're out in the road and you got your family and friends back home. You're trying to stay locked in for hockey and like your city's literally burning.

That's got to be incredible. Yeah, you know like my mom's in Kelowna during all those fires. Oh my god. She came down down legitimately 500 yards is where it stopped burning from her home. Really? Oh yeah, she was evacuated and all that. But holy.

I get it that you gotta keep moving on and life goes on and there's businesses and livelihoods that are around whatever industry that you're in, but how are people gonna go to games in the next few months? You're not. Yeah.

Right? Like you got no home, you got no clothes, you got nothing. It's like, where is going to a hockey game in the next three months on your priority list? Yeah, may not be. Extremely low. It's just so sad.

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I would say highlighted by the LA Kings like we were just talking about in Winnipeg to take on the Jets Minus 110 on both sides and money line there even money Really an excellent hockey game Don't really know which way to lean on that one. Jets just got off the Schneid. They snapped a three game losing streak. Well, they beat the national. So maybe lean to the Jets on that one.

The Sharks, my favorite league pass team, the Sharks are in Utah to take on the club. They are plus 230 underdogs in Utah taking on Utah. Give me a long shot on the San Jose Sharks. And if you want to throw in my favorite young player in the league, Macklin Celebrini to score a goal on that one, as I pull it up here quickly. Macklin Celebrini is plus 210 to score a goal tonight. And give me that tonight because I love watching him play.

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that Eric Tulski called it the Josh Levo tournament because Josh Levo played for the Leafs Carolina Hurricanes and the Vancouver Canucks. Oh, he lightened up the KHL. So I thought that was hilarious. Tulski apparently mentioned that. So it's pretty funny stuff. And anyways, that was Game Time presented by Bet365.

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Don't know if it's a case study for the Vancouver Canucks on how to handle Maybe how to handle the nonsense I did look this up quickly Josh Levo is leading the KHL in points with 47 points in 38 games 28 goals in 37 game 38 games. I'm telling you I saw some a little bit of Josh Levo stock in the portfolio guy could fire it a goose 7 second. He carries a cell phone in his pants Hey, and you wanted to text me

We usually text on Friday You want to do some text? Yeah, all right So text 595 90 text in and we'll read some of them from the more national side of things It feels a little underwhelming after the leased line, but we'll do some text So text in from around the country want to talk other than we so Brad Marsh and then I want you guys to answer this question after the break. Would you trade Connor Bedard for celebrini? Yes. Oh No, I'll give you the answer after the break When we return to real kipper and born

Hey, it's a Lush for afar and I'm Justin comfort join us as we discuss the most important sports stories of the day and tee Up the biggest games of the night. It's the fan pregame 6 p.m Weekdays on sports that sports at 5 The Fan, and wherever you get your podcasts. Our good friend Derek Brandale says, 18 minutes till the weekend. God, that's a long time. Tell me if I'm wrong. And I could have swore he said at the top of our show, two hours before the weekend. God, it's a long time. Tell me if I'm wrong. And I could have swore he said at the top of our show,

two hours before the weekend. Tell me if I'm wrong. A team could do worse than adding Josh Levo from the KHL at the deadline. Josh Levo is a big man. 6'2", 195, 31 years old, shoots it hard, you know, straight lines. If you put him on your third line, I think

you're okay. I think if he ends up on a third line, he owes you like 3%. Think so? Yeah, you just found him a job. He's he's up five points in the scoring lead in the K. I don't know how they let you out of Russia easy if he wants to leave. I don't think so. Oh, I'm trying to see if there's any other former friends in his team that we recognize but I don't know. Salavat, you lay of UFO? Yeah, I don't recognize any. I'm trying to see if there's any other former friends in his team that we recognize, but I don't see anybody. Who's Salavat Yuleyev Ufa? Yeah. I don't recognize any of those names.

All right, we got a little NHL News and Notes. As a reminder, this hour of Real Kipper and Born brought to you by Bet365. We got texts, so where do you wanna start? Oh, with Marshand. Oh yeah, I forgot about Marshand. Oh yeah, I forgot we had that. Yeah.

Okay, so. Sorry. 18 minutes of the week in here, boys, let's go, so sorry, okay, so just Just just recap here. Okay. No one's ever heard anything Out of the Boston Bruins that they've got internal issues or they're not getting along and then You tell me five minutes before the show somebody went on the air somewhere It was okay wasn't five was about an hour before when you first got here. I can't yeah time but what I'll say is This is so we have the clip. I think I put it in there we have the clip and this is from the

Jones and Keefe show on W EEI in Boston and We have nothing to us in Boston and We have nothing to us. Well, Debbie. Yeah, is that biggest radio? No fan 590 of Boston Okay, so that's a big show with a big audience big show. Okay, this this was said on the show heard not this one the other clip there The clip see Derek's already on weekend mode right now. Yeah We'll give them come to some slack there. You know, you can't rule anything out. I got a lot of love for all the organizations. Clip from Rich and Keef. Rich and Keef.

Rich and Keef, sorry. Impeccable track record. True. But Scoop's Keef. Yes. With a tremendous, impeccable track record. True. What are you hearing on the Bruins, Keef? Well, what I'm hearing is this. First of all, what we can all see is that they're a mess on the ice, right? They've lost six in a row. But what I'm hearing is they're also a mess off the ice.

Apparently, the locker room is a disaster. And David Postronok is at the center of that. David Postronok has told the team he doesn't want to be on a line with Brad Marshan, and it may stem from Brad Marshan calling out Postronok for some of his play throughout the year. So Postronok maybe your best player, 60 goal score, all that stuff. Also the main reason why it is a disaster inside the locker room. They won't play on the line together.

Postronok does not want to play with Marshan. And they're not playing together. Oh no. Well, are they getting any power play time together? I think they may have done that. This is what he is saying. And so I'm sure, you know, the coach doesn't have to do everything he says, but that's what he said. Shuffle the lines though. It's, Postronok is, you know, no longer playing with Marshand.

It's Marshand and Coyle and Lindholm. Okay. Okay. They've been, throughout their careers, they've been on and off, right? On lines. Yeah. Throughout their careers. They've been on and off right on On lines. Yeah, but not lately like these he's had them separated for a good portion and Then we have so that has been in okay. So what time did that get sent out that tweet? I'm trying to see here That was sent. I must have been an early morning here. That was sent. I must have been an early morning. No, that was about that was six hours ago. So that was sent out at 1112 am. Okay. On from the Jones and Keaton and then Brad

after practice after practice. Brad Marchand had this to say about that. And you know, that job is a report on the team and usually you try to be fact-based. But when there's just blatant lies told in the media, that's where there's a problem. And the fact that this guy has a platform and he's just making stuff up is embarrassing. And there's zero truth to anything that he said on the radio. This is how you lose your job. The fact that he's going to have a job after this is insane because pasta and I are best friends. He went on.

He literally went on for like three minutes talking. Yeah. Pretty convincing. Yeah. Right. And he part of the other clip where he said everyone in the locker room loves David Pasternak. He said those words. Yeah, this is This is a guy that When he speaks

There's no BS about this guy yeah What I'm talking about like he can be smarter is my There's the tongue in cheek. There's the tongue in cheek and there's the little kind of gamesmanship that he can play with the best of them in the media. But this is not a guy that is known for me to be incredible. Yeah, no, and I think no one would be in a position

to say that that's not true. Like, you know, he stood up and he said, he's my pal, everyone loves him. You know, there's nothing there. He didn't say he's his pal. He says my best friend. He would give the best man speech at my wedding. And to me it's over and it's an on story. And even if it's not true, the fact that he's willing to say that about Pasternak means he's willing to move on and just coexist.

He doesn't want them gone. They're just willing to coexist is what that shows. Yeah, but he's got me convinced it's way more than him just kind of putting out a fire. You think there's actually nothing there at all? Yeah. I don't know. I just don't think it a guy comes out and

Is that? Yeah forceful. Yeah, and that so what we're talking about is Vancouver. Well, you know what we talk about when we're not talking What's that? Whatever we're talking about Vancouver here because no one has come out and said Petey's my best friend. Well Even if it wasn't as forceful as Marsha or Admin is that, there's a lot more I think between Miller and Pedersen that you can do to kind of just calm the waters down a little bit but and management too or talk it or... The Bruins Twitter account put it like a playful like looking forward thing and it's like

Marshand and pasted at practice today like standing beside each other and like Can I play devil's advocate and defend my of you do whatever you want my brethren in the radio world. I Mean that is how you would come out and be like overly defensive of a something that might actually be true No, I hate that. I don't think that's true at all. I think, you know, he's no, he realizes the gravity of the situation. He realizes they suck. I think that, you know, I probably agree with Marshaan, but like, I don't think it's a zero

percent chance that there's not something to know. That's fine. And I'm sure the assistant equipment manager saw them in a fight one day or something and told someone there's there is if when you you're coming out that aggressive and be like, you're so wrong, you're so wrong. Part of me is like, ah. Let me take. Ah. I'm just saying.

He should have been halfway forceful. I'm playing devil's advocate here. What would you have liked him to do? You want him to come out and say something less forceful. I like him okay, but what amount of force would have convinced you? Listen, I'm just saying that I've been around some people that have denied things that have been true and they were vehement.

Viament? Yeah, vehement. In their denial. Yeah. And I just think that, I think it's false, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I'm saying there's no answer that would have satisfied you. Okay.

When we're talking about guys that you see every day more so than sometimes you see your family and you've got an outsider like that in the media that can hear things or have someone relay something that they think they might have seen or heard and it can get twisted and I'm sure it's from something like I've been around so many teams when you go out you hang out and people look at you going this is the way you guys talk to each other and like stuff that like I know my wife on many occasions she's like if anyone said that about me, I'd never speak to them again.

And I'm like, what are you talking about? That guy's the best. But I do think, I will say, Sammy, to your point, I don't think Rich Keefer Jones or whatever was at home today and was like, ah! Gonna make this up. Yeah, like someone told him something that they thought they saw or they did hear or whatever

and as I said, it could be the security guard's brother's buddy. It could be a bad two minutes or just where you just rip on each other. Have you ever fought with your wife? Yeah, you love your wife? Sure do. You know?

The best friend thinks tough to come back from. Like if you're Jones and Keefe. Yeah, like having a report and then not even letting it last It wasn't even three hours. Like I sent a tweet today about like a beam the power down so we're buds. We're best friends I I gotta think if Brad is Unaware of any situation in Vancouver. maybe he doesn't speak today. I agree with you. This is totally related.

Like let's not get caught up in that where someone has to get traded. We are not going down the Vancouver Canuck path. I'm putting an end to this right now, right here. And that's what I think led that. Definitely related. And I do want to say, Sam, that when people do deny things, I agree with you that this is how it comes out at first. Like, I did not have relations with that woman.

I get that that's how people do it. To quote my, one of my very favorite writers of all time, William Shakespeare, the Lady Doth Protest Too Much. Yeah, that's great that someone sent you that. But like, it is a thing that like That is I am red, but I'm just saying there's no Nothing that would have satisfied you when you want it to be true, you know, oh that is obvious Yeah, but anyways, but I really want them to self. I really want to know you can wear as Marchanders. Yeah

All right. Are we ready for Tex? But they're in big trouble. Oh, Boston stinks. They're minus 24. They're below Montreal in winning percentage. Their specialty teams are horrible. There's nothing there to suggest they're digging themselves out anytime soon. Swamen, did you see the goal last night, the Cirelli one off the back wall?

It was a shorthanded goal. But like Swamen, did you see the goal last night, the Cirelli one off the back wall? It was a shorthanded goal, but like, Swamen looks... He looks not just not very good or not as good, he looks bad bad. Like, he looks like he should not be their starting goalie. Corpus Sal is pretty good. Oh. Uh... It's gonna be a hard one to recover off of. We don't have time for that.

Coming off that high profile... I think that pressure's hurting. Hi guys, happy new year. I'm Lucas from Vancouver Island, BC. Hey Lucas. Hey Lucas. I think we talked about this, but I'm going to do it again. I was curious about how you felt about all the empty net goals these days and how it

is affecting the historical records of the game and making it easier to break said records. I love this question. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. How about… I'm going? I love this question. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. How about I hate the fact that coaches have no regard to whether or not they lose 4-3,

7-3, 9-3. Let's give up five empty net goals. Nobody cares anymore. Because logically, does it matter? I'm watching the Leaf game last night. Preach it, baby. And it's five, three, and they're like... Couple of moral victory boys in here, everyone.

Another, like... Don't give up the empty net goal, okay? No, because why? You're gonna lose, okay? You're gonna lose. Just put your goalie in. Don't try to win. And just leave quietly, okay? You're not coming back Just put your goalie in. Don't try to win. And just leave quietly.

Okay? You're not coming back off of two empty net goals or it's over. But no, let's try again. So I don't mind the take that like it stinks because I don't like all the empty net goals the way they're affecting the records and maybe we should look at stripping empty net points from records or whatever. I think Rantanen has like, I don't know, 15 points on empty netters this year or something crazy. But-

Wayne had a ton of empty netters. Yeah, but you're trying to win the game. But they were one and done. This is the way it used to work, okay? Minute to go, pull the goalie, you don't score, they score an empty net. Yeah. Now they're up two goals.

And you take a wagon from New York to Los goals. You put your goalie back in, and you quietly feel shame when you leave the ice. I will say, and I guess I'm old school, but any time the goalie comes out with more than two minutes and 20 seconds left, I'm disgusted. I was at the game. I'm like, that is sickening. I was at Islander Sabres when Wa pulled the goalie

with 11 and a half minutes left. Like, three weeks ago. He did that in Vancouver in Toronto I think with 12 minutes ago. With a power play. Yeah. Yes. That's fun. Yeah.

Oh my God. But yeah, there's something there where the record books are getting all screwed up. Great question. Great text. Hi guys. Kipper, what's the worst dressing room fight you ever saw from Rob and Willem? Let me go second on this Go first because he's thinking. Okay. Yeah, I don't know if I've really experienced one guy on our team Gets in some trouble a couple of times has to run laps 6 a.m

With the captain the captain's willing to get up and do it's Alaska last with minus whatever the kid No shows them so the cat wakes up gets out of bed has to stand up in the cold and last going for him And so it's picture day He's sitting in the kids stall when we get to the the rink for pitchers and he's ever in their own stall He's in his stall. So what's happening? I'm gonna fight him when he gets here. Okay Everyone goes and sits in their stall just waits and used to beep to hear the code with the guy Someone come in the dressing room beep beep beep beep in their stall just waits and used to beep to hear the code with the guy someone come in the dressing room beep beep beep beep he came in and he hit him

so hard he was in an orange jumpsuit on the news that night oh my god really yeah it's crazy that's a pretty good one yeah yeah I think there's a couple of incidences our Stanley Cup year where I think maybe Esa Tekinen was wearing the same suit to practice in the morning that he wore the night before. And I cannot confirm or deny whether his feet were dangling pressed up against the wall by Mark Messier or not. But I think it stopped after that. But it put it into the night out eh?

But it put it into the you know show up a little cleaner. That's a good one because it's a note for everyone not just as a teak in it right? Everyone sees it and goes okay. Oh yeah. We have some standards here. Shower and make sure you're wearing something different. Yeah. Good showing.

Good showing. Lot of texts about Couple texts about JT Miller for William Nylander from people in Vancouver. Sure. They would like that Miller for Nylander. Yeah I had an extra three million gapsules. Listen, heart no, brother. If I am absolutely desperate to win a Stanley Cup this year, I... Oh, you're nice. You guys are. I like JT Miller. I like JT Miller too.

I like JT Miller three, but I'm not trading William Nylander for him. Straight up, one for one. I don't know that Willie's... How old's Willie? 27? 28. 28, How old's Willie? 27? 28. And Miller's 31? Miller's had a hundred and some points.

I give up the three years on that one. And take the cap space and buy yourself something nice. You guys are just pandering Vancouver in the national hour. No, no, no. I am not pandering. You don't want those Vancouver meanies coming after you. Listen. I'll give you Marner for Miller.

You know what? You're crazy. It's, it's, you think about it for sure. You think about it. You think about that one for sure. Okay, so they'd have a meeting. If it was Willie for JT, if that was proposed, there would be a meeting on both sides. It's just Miller has that element that Marner doesn't have

or Nylander doesn't have. Not many guys. Psycho-competitive. That's it. I wrote about that today. Check it out on sports.ca. Forgot about that. Okay.

I literally wrote about this topic. What a show. All right, thanks to Sean Reynolds from Hockey Night in Canada and Sportsnet. Have a great weekend, everybody. Good job today, Sammy, producing. Good producing. Oh, thanks. Appreciate it.

Have a great weekend, everybody.