Real Kyper & Bourne - Panthers Go Back-To-Back

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee discuss the Florida Panthers' Game 6 victory over the Edmonton Oilers to claim the Stanley Cup for a second straight season. They get into the Panthers' dynas...tic performance, McDavid and Draisaitl's flat finish to the series, the Oilers' depth's fall-off, the impact of Zach Hyman's absence, Stuart Skinner's rough game, what an Evan Bouchard extension would cost and Sam Reinhart's 4-goal effort. Later, they discuss Sam Bennett's future after winning the Conn Smyth and Florida's plan for their other expiring UFAs in Aaron Ekblad and Brad Marchand.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome into the real Kipper and born show. We are live on sports set sports net five 90 the fan sports net nine 60 in Calgary, six 50 in Vancouver and sports net plus as always this hour of real Kipper and born brought brought to you by bet 365 Nick Kiprios Justin Bourne Sammy McKee Jake the snake Schultz and Derek Brandale For once again the fastest hour in hockey without Any more games to play as the season concluded last night With the florida panthers crowned Stanley Cup champions
Starting point is 00:00:47 for the second consecutive season. Well played. Well played. That's a hockey team right there. Kip, I was talking with Darrell Sutter this summer and he was telling me that... Can I pick up that name you just dropped? Yeah. Well, listen, I'm going that name you just dropped? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well listen, I'm gonna be a part of his book, Sam.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey now. A Darrell book. Early promo. But talking to him about the cup and he explained to me that once you've won the cup, he still experiences some jealousy, like that's my cup. I won that cup, he wants to win it again.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Like he's not done with the cup. Yeah. How do you feel seeing the cup handed out? I feel good. Yeah, I've got no issues. You're happy to. I look at my cup like I look at my high school years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It's like Glory Days plays in the background. Like when you're like, have no worries in the world and you're just a kid and all of that. I'll tell you what I went through in a similar fashion was watching the Rangers success after I was long gone. And they went to the finals, of course, right with King Henry and came close on a couple occasions Alan Martinez and overtime. Yes, and it's like I don't want them to win. Yeah, you wanted to be the last really? Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:18 Miami Dolphins right there if they win the cup, they're gonna forget about our 1994 team Yeah, how and I don't 1994 team. Yeah. Wow. And I don't want that. Yeah. I went through that and then at about, I don't know, turn of the decade there, 2020, I'm like, yeah, that's enough of that. I want them to have success now and it's now 30 years. I can't, I don't want to hold those emotions hostage
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, forever. It's just selfish and greedy and at the end of the day There's a lot of people that don't remember 94 now of 30 years later. Yeah, so That's the only thing that I've ever experienced but watching the cup being actually watching the cup being presented Every year is actually a very good feel for me because whoever I'm beside at the time, I can turn around and say I know exactly how that feels. That's what I was just gonna say.
Starting point is 00:03:14 We are sitting with a guy in the room that experienced what all those guys experienced last night where you just, it takes my breath away when they bring it out every time. Every time it's like here it is It's like oh my god Look at that thing like it is out of this world And I can only imagine the emotions if my beloved maple leaves ever did it so even the Panthers way hate hoisting
Starting point is 00:03:35 And I'm like oh look at them. That's all good for them for every action There's a reaction and I will never forget in 94 and it's an iconic picture today for Vancouver Canuck fans sorry Canuck fans but it is Trevor Linden bearing his hands in his face I believe he's on one knee at the time at Madison Square Garden and I do recall for a split second and all my hoopla going oh my god that must just feel awful right now. And today we say the same thing for Connor McDavid. Excuse my ignorance, how close was game seven when you guys won it? Nathan Lafayette hit the post with about three minutes to go.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Now I remember that. And it was the difference of that going in overtime in game seven Yeah, so part of it for you guys is probably Relief not knowing for sure that it was yours, you know down to the wire I wonder if it's different when that one felt pretty over like when they by time you got to the final buzzer It's almost like you had time Oilers players would have had to have to mourn the loss of that game before the final buzzer went that was Florida Florida putting teams away what did you think the the empty they pulled the goalie with what six and a half minutes ago way too early way too early to
Starting point is 00:04:57 McDavid dry settle to let them get to at least five see if they can get one start thinking about a penalty for God's sakes. Get a power play goal at three one. And I'm an early goalie pull guy. I like early goalie pulls. I didn't mind it, but I was, Like Florida's gonna get something. I was shocked when I saw Sam Bennett fire went in and I looked up and it was like six and a half minutes.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, that was weird. Six forty something. Yeah. Listen, I like the aggressive goalie pull, but three goals when you got two of the best guys on earth. Okay, so I'm gonna Go back to yesterday's question Right now and now knowing the outcome. What is a bigger story right now?
Starting point is 00:05:35 What do you you feel like talking about the Florida Panthers and how great they are or do we talk about? Edmonton Oilers and how disappointing this thing is like I mean, we're in Canada at the end of the day. Okay, Florida, you're great, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But we live in Canada. No, but Kip's right. We live in Canada. That's the story. The story leads, baby.
Starting point is 00:05:55 The story's Edmonton. But I feel like we owe Florida this, like, oh, and they, what a for check, and Bob's so solid, and Reinhard Klopp. Whoa, what a third line. And Bob's so solid. Everyone knows now we're three years into them doing this. We know that team is cream of the crop. They are the, the tops in the NHL and have been for years now. So there's not much else to add. So let's talk about it. There isn't, there isn't. Let's talk about the Oilers.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Anything last night? Change anything for you about how we talked about them, how you felt about them? Yes. Okay. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. What for you, Sam?
Starting point is 00:06:36 What did you think? Well, I know, like, I don't want to drive this into leaf land here, but I could tell you that if we came in here after two games where the Oilers had an unbelievable comeback in game four to even up the series and everybody felt like, oh my God, that's the turning point of the series. It's going back to Edmonton. They're gonna win this cup.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And they go back there and I know Florida's good and I know they rolled them. But like, they laid an egg there. And then you go down to I know they rolled them but like they laid an egg there and then you go down to Florida and they rolled over quite flank. They had a good five minutes to start that game I thought they didn't get one to go a couple hits like if it was Toronto All we would be talking about is how big of a choke job it was and how like no good these guys are McDavid was he dash for last night? Like I just the energy that everyone just praising the Panthers and I get it
Starting point is 00:07:26 They're great But there was a lot that happened with the Oilers that was no good after they came back in that to like they should have lost That Susan five if it wasn't for that miracle comeback like I got it I know it's there in the final and it's not you can't compare that to the least or whatever. I'm just Maybe I'm too fired up about it. No or whatever, I'm just, maybe I'm too fired up about it. No, I'm with you in terms of the disappointment that I bought into that this is a better team, a deeper team, a team that can certainly compete.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I was anticipating one of the more memorable Stanley Cup finals in recent history. Didn't get it at all. Well, after a couple OT games, everyone is like, you know, I think three of the first four games into OT and everyone was like, this is a close series. The first two games were unbelievable. But I will say.
Starting point is 00:08:12 They were unbelievable, but there were games that Florida could have easily won as well. Here's my point. So I'm sitting there going, like, sweep. Well, it could have been a sweep. It was a six game series, three of the first four in overtime, which both sounds close. Edmonton had the lead in the series for eight percent of the series. Eight percent? Florida set the NHL record leading for 255 minutes, which was over 61 percent of the series.
Starting point is 00:08:41 They were in control of every game at some point this the history that I thought they were gonna make that Didn't make turned into maybe the history of the most Lopsided six game series I've ever seen wasn't that close. They didn't win one game in regulation. Yeah, I Don't think Connor it could be the more than 60 minutes in one game. Maybe Connor had the one Yeah, Connor had one regulation Go on. Yeah. Yeah. No, I when the game was over. It was three was three zip game five Leon had to ot ot was pretty good But I mean I think a lot of what
Starting point is 00:09:18 We're gonna talk about with the oilers and comes to picking apart their roster Which you do with every team that comes a little bit short, is they didn't look much closer than any other team was to beating that Florida team, whether it's Tampa Bay, Toronto, what else did they beat? Carolina. Carolina. Yeah, Carolina didn't have a sniff either. Like that team was just better than everyone. But it does make you like if Edmonton had played any of those other teams, would they
Starting point is 00:09:44 have beat them? They're more what we saw a lot of throughout the playoffs, especially in Los Angeles against again, giving up the first two goals is that they started winning games without depending on 97 and 29. Right. They got help, right? They got help. And it was on the premise that that was going to continue in the
Starting point is 00:10:08 final. And it just didn't. They all came back down to earth, including Kaepernick and whether it's Arvesson in the lineup or out Let's be honor Brown Devastating Henry Henry Kane Kane they all Just fell off. Yeah in the final series and today you wake up and it's like, okay They're gonna trade a Vander Kane, you know, if you'll Elliot reported that there'll be a market for him That's the first one to fall Klingberg's probably not gonna come back. Somebody will overpay Klingberg. Yeah, he did enough to earn another shot. Somewhere. No question. I was just gonna say, did you want to hear from McDavid after the game?
Starting point is 00:10:56 I mean, I poured through the two minute fifty-three second. I think we need to hear him. Yeah, we do. It's definitely a good clip. Connor McDavid clip one on the series, please, Derek. I lost to a really good team. Nobody quit, nobody threw the towel in. They're a heck of a team. They're the Stanley Cup champions back to back for a reason. What's the difference in the series?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Obviously their fourth trick was great. They tilted the rink, they were able to kind of stay on top of us all over the place. Never really able to generate any momentum up the ice. momentum up the ice. You know, we kept trying the same thing over and over again, just banging our heads against the wall. So credit to them. Is that a criticism? Is that a shot at the coach? Yeah, I mean, it's a frustration that's probably valid. I think we watched a lot of teams against Florida. What does he mean there, fellas? To me, it's everyone kept going
Starting point is 00:12:05 up the walls. Florida pinches hard down the walls. Means we didn't we didn't make the proper adjustments. Gregor before the series is like should they flip their wingers and then have them on their offhand to get the puck to the middle? I didn't see him do anything. They just kept throwing the guys over the boards and and when you think about Connor screaming and ranting in his viral moment last year and then you hear him this year, it's as if to me he truly understands that we are possibly
Starting point is 00:12:41 a worse team than we were last year. Well, don't you think? I mean, they're both cripplingly heartbreaking But I think last year having the momentum of coming back from three nothing down and then having to be a really close game Seven that was on a knife's edge and he had to puck at the top of the blue paint With a chance to score to make it 2-2 like that one was that was supposed to kick in and build This yes, correct and then... And it didn't. But they added Jeff Skinner and Victor Arvidsson, lost guys to RFA offer sheets and they didn't
Starting point is 00:13:10 get better. They didn't improve enough. Arvidsson's still under another year, is he not? But they healthy scratched him in playoff and he's got $4 million cap hit next year. And Connor Brown has, I think... Round the UFA. $1 million next and Connor Brown has I think is a No, I know that but he had four million this year on the cap. Did he not? Oh, it sounds three I'll find it for you. So between Brown and Arbiton, it's like that was a ton of money to be
Starting point is 00:13:42 Just one million on no, no no but there's over there's there's four there's three I think I think there was cash or something there but my point is is that like you cannot have a mistake of healthy scratching a four million dollar player no you know and and Brown and Arvison should have been looked upon as being similar players I don't know where you needed Ardisonesson. And Barney, you did mention it sort of quietly there when we were talking about other stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:08 but no, Zach Hyman was a massive blow. Yeah. Like, and it deserves a little bit of a conversation that like- No question. He's one of their- No question. He's their go, one of their go-to guys
Starting point is 00:14:19 outside of Connor and Leon. I don't see him being the difference between winning and losing. They didn't feel one guy away, but Ali definitely. Yeah, what a change just slots people in like they could have maybe I don't one one more game I'm worth that. I'm not sure but that is a big miss but I do think it's worth noting that this Florida team The damage they did to teams when they hate when it came time to put them away Like winning both these games by three goals what they did to the Leafs in games five and seven, you know, what they did to Carolina. They, they, man, they locked it down really tight. And here's one thing they talked about intangibles
Starting point is 00:14:53 and trust and all this team chemistry and leadership, all the stuff that hockey people hold dear seems to exist on that Panthers roster. The thing that stands out for me the most is you know there's a couple of clips out there of Paul Maurice behind the bench screaming pound these guys pound these guys and then there's the words of Matthew Kachuk who says that that whether or not you know we need to go back up to Toronto in game seven or even take it to overtime, we know when we constantly play this way, it will turn in our favour.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So when they get into those critical moments, there's an expectation of number one being calm and number two that we will come out on top. And we don't need to win it in four games five games six games we can win it in seven if it's even overtime and it's one thing to say it but it's another thing to truly believe it and that's the difference in mentality between them and every other other team that's remember looking on the outside right now. Remember after the Leafs lost in game seven and Marchand talked about how he's like, about how we put too much pressure on the Leafs
Starting point is 00:16:12 and all this stuff, he's like, this isn't even a big game. It's like this is the second round. He's like guys that have been there, and like this is, it's a big game like sure, but like this isn't the final. He went on like a big long thing and it's like, they just rise. I don't know how you quantify their ability to rise to the occasion over these past three seasons
Starting point is 00:16:30 I also think exam it gets easier once you've done it once you're sure once you've got that on your resume already And your opponent believes it. Yes like prime tiger where guys would just like roll over for him It's like this guy doesn't choke like we got to see on Sunday afternoon when the rain delay. Yes Roll over for him. It's like this guy doesn't choke like we got to see on Sunday afternoon when the rain delay. Yes It is like seeing where eventually your opponent starts to beat themselves because they believe you're that true to your system And yeah, it feels like that's where opponents of the Panthers are at this point Can we before we I don't want to ask you about the coach of the Oilers knob lock We also have Panthers culture as a clip Yeah, I just before we move on past that I wanted to play this clip for you and get your guys opinion on it
Starting point is 00:17:09 I was listening through and I was surprised by this day. We do a clip one on being underdogs, please No luck, you know talked to her earlier about being a resilient group like We saw more last year just because our backs were against the wall more often. And somebody going this year, you know, it was alluded earlier that we were an underdog throughout the playoffs. And for us to get to game six of Stanley Cup final being a bunch of underdogs is, it's a pretty good accomplishment. Unfortunately it hurts just because we felt that we could have won it all. And getting so close last year and getting so close this year, a lot had fallen into
Starting point is 00:17:57 place and it did very early in the playoffs. So I'm very, very happy about the guys. They gave a tremendous effort. Underdogs revisionist revisionist. That's like first Cup favorites. I love that season. That's like Nick Saban. Like maybe he's like, ah, Alabama. We're no one believes in us. We're underdogs. Everyone's like, you're in the cup final game seven last year. They were unbelievable. Were they favored in like we did game time all the time they were favored in a lot of games yeah that's a coach I like we did pretty good
Starting point is 00:18:32 actually like that's what that's exactly what I was going around for sports net picks yes all oilers yeah hundred percent except for Nick Kiprios who picked the stinking Panthers Are you picked the defending silicon? That's my eight-year-old son The team that just won probably I've never really like retreated Retweeted anything but I did retweet one person last night who saw my pick the moment it came out on Sportsnet and said saw my pick the moment it came out on Sportsnet and said, it is in regards of if your pick wins one round, I'll buy you pizza and send it to Walmart
Starting point is 00:19:14 where you'll be working. I know you wore a blue shirt. So the moment the game ended, I sent them a tweet back with an emoji of a pizza slice. I love it. That was it. He was a good sport about it though. What do you make of him saying that? Is that what it is? Like we actually did great and like I shouldn't be questioned at all. It reminds me of we got a lot of respect in the handshake line. Yeah, it's very eerily similar to me I don't know. I mean, it's clearly a defense mechanism that kind of kicks in and but it's I think Playoff it's not it's not reality to sit them sit there and go that we never believed that They could truly beat the Florida Panthers. Come on every team
Starting point is 00:20:01 They played could have beat him LA was good Vegas was good. Dallas was good. They had a great playoff. They didn't sneak into a final here. They went through the front door Yeah, they they steamroll the Western Conference. Yeah, right. No questions asked. Yeah, who's the best team in the Western Conference? Edmonton Oilers, they weren't underdogs and I think statistically when we did game time They were like it was like minus 115 to minus 105 like it was a pick up. Yeah, yeah in the final. Yeah. Yeah, can Can they get back there again? The Oilers how do how do you see them possibly being better? How do they get better? So they need a goalie, right? The Skinner thing did not work that by the way that killed them last night rant
Starting point is 00:20:45 You can't let in the first goal. No Ryan Hart goes again forehand backhand forehand and chops it over his glove He's not within a foot of touching it the one Ryan second goal where he just blockers it lazily in front of him This is such a sweet falling down to like this. He can't go many places there like that one So and he you know, you know, it's we even worse is that he's He's so upright on it. You know he doesn't get back down and ready off the rebound right he doesn't get back in position He stays up like lazily Yeah, no, you know what I so I was texting texting with Steve Valakett during the game last night
Starting point is 00:21:22 And we didn't get hold of him. He was in Italy he was texting you. Yeah, he was eating a burrata So he's watching but he won't come on what hell But he's gonna call I'm gonna ask him this story But he said I said something about how the skinner blocker play didn't love it And he said anything they shot on him at this point It would he would have made a mess of it Like he said you just get to a point where your brain fried he told me told me this story about It happening to him and we'll get it from him. But Skinner was just mentally gone rolled over at that point
Starting point is 00:21:57 You know, you just had nothing left to give some skating off the ice and after the first period and he's just hanging his head And I mean like if you're one of the guys and eventually She weird Don we're done wasn't inspiring Well their first Priority is to make sure 97 signs July 1st. Is it not? Well, I don't think Kip. It's gonna be July 1st I don't think there's urgency on that. Well, let it not be July. It won't be July 1st. Great, right? I see I on that for sure for Edwin. Let it not be July 1st. It won't be July 1st. Great. Right? I see nothing but a constant distraction. Yeah. July 2nd.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I can, you know, can't trouble for saying this. It feels to me that Canadian players are less likely to do that. Like, I feel like there's this loyalty. He's in Canada, he's a Canadian kid. Like, I don't, I feel like it's gonna be less likely that he says, I just, I can't take this,
Starting point is 00:22:54 I wanna go somewhere else. Like. Yeah, McKinnon did it, Sid did it. Like, it's just like that kind of guy. Yeah. Just kinda just does it. Just, you know, and you think about like, all right, Kachuk did it. Feels like Quinn Hughes is doing it. Feels like Jack Eich just does it. Just, you know, and you think about like, all right, Kachuk did it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Feels like Quinn Hughes is doing it. Feels like Jack Eichel did it. You know, it feels I don't know like why I feel like it's like a Canadian hockey player. It's like, I can't get a read on it. I can't. I'm only I'm only telling you. I'd be guessing to say that he wants to stay or wants to go. Yeah. I'd be guessing to say that he wants to stay where he wants to go Yeah, I mean in so reading in reading some of the Oilers blogs today
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's I don't see it's a foregone conclusion that he's resigning But there's a lot of good points of why he wants to win They're a team that can get to the final and as they're presently constructed are very very good Leon resigned. I don't know how good they are JB I really don't know how good they are, JB. I really don't know how good they are. I know they did. I know. But they could have as many as six new players.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And are they going to be better or worse? They don't have a goalie. Hyman comes back, of course, which is huge. By the way, would you keep Skinner as a backup, he only makes two and a half, and he's played Stanley Cup Finals games. It's a really tough ask for the fans or even for him to go back and say, you know what? I'm sorry that you guys wasted two years on me, but I'm going to be a backup goalie now. And that's where I'm really comfortable
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's really tough. Yeah, it's tough. Everybody like I would love Skinner's to back up on my team But on the team where you've been burned twice, it's really hard twice and I don't know anything In three or four years from now We could be looking at these two Losses and saying that's the closest they ever got and you know what that's the danger of Connor still that's what we're terrifying upping is that your window may have closed temporarily and you might need four or five years to get back and also Pickard go attended just as well as he did and he only makes a million next year you might as well just even though
Starting point is 00:25:03 he's older you might as well just say hey you do it for a million bucks and we'll save one so six and They they're gonna have to make there's some talk about a Frederick Contract extension out there. Did Elliott put something out today? Yeah They're working on an eight-year deal Fan hockey show guys, I don't know why you need to go eight years. Don't really understand that either Listen, I'm comparing these two but it reminds me of engval where it's like who are you bidding against to say eight? Played 80 games this year and he scored nine goals I mean I like Frederick and to be honest if they wanted to give him to a year for eight years
Starting point is 00:25:39 I'd take him on my team too. But I don't To the other one that's concerning here is a lot of talk about Evan Bouchard commanding as much as 10 or 11 million dollars. And I like I like Bouchard, but I just don't know if if I can win a Stanley Cup with him. I'll be honest. Absolutely. You can. Absolutely. I think I think if you look at that decor, I would rather give Bouchard the 10 million and then find a way to trade like nurse or something like that You know move Kane Free the money for sure like for sure You can win with Bouchard, but he you can't do it him being like
Starting point is 00:26:23 The absolute go-to guy on the blue line. Yeah that he just doesn't play them down a bit I thought well at home was also out for a very long time To cap you know he got walked multiple times in big spots where he did what didn't look very mobile He didn't look like he was at his best at all. So so if if if there are signs of at home now was at his best at all. So if there are signs of ECHOM now declining, like take a look at that blue line for Connor in the next three or four years. It is absolute paramount that you have to change it up somewhat. And I like your thought of getting nurses $9 million out, but you're gonna have to find a stud shut down guy that can compliment the boo-boos every once in a while from Evan Bouchard.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Yeah. And in fairness, he cleaned those up pretty good in playoffs. I don't know. The last few games they came, they were back. They were back. But you know, they like, Walman's 29 and he's good for them. Kulak is 31 and he was pretty good for them and then it's Emerson's Thatcher This decor surprised me the whole way around they were they were the top
Starting point is 00:27:29 point per game decor in the Stanley Cup playoffs and Every time I look at that decor. I'm like, okay, I guess and then the Florida Panthers just ground him to dust without for Jack, you know, it's just like they can't or is way Where did he come from? Waivers to shutting down like, Conor McDavid? Dimitri Filipovich who does some work with Sportsnet, I think he has a podcast with us. He did a put out an eight minute mixtape of his defensive prowess. It's absurd. He is as shut down as it absolutely gets
Starting point is 00:28:09 and to get him off waivers, I love watching him play. Better than getting him off waivers. He's 29 and he makes 5.75 until the year 2032. Think about that. Think about if he was gonna become a UFA. Get 12. 12. You know, like, maybe not 12. 11. Think about if he was gonna become a ufa get 12 He'd be in the same conversation is like a pesky
Starting point is 00:28:36 Slave and thank you wrong wrong guy Slaven right where but I don't know I just You know one thing I was thinking the other day is we The the money we spend on these places not we the league on players, is so not correlated with how much they're valued. You look at Team Canada just named like a Sidney Crosby or whatever, but Sid makes 8.7 and Sam Reinhardt makes 8 and 3.6. You value Forsling so much, but because he doesn't have the points, they're not going to give him that kind of money, the Bouchard money. It's like it's who'd you rather have in this one than that? It's just it's a timing thing. It is all about your timing
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's about when you when you peek when you can sell yourself at your at the highest and now Bennett Bennett couldn't have timed it any better, right? But, you know, Forsland was offered security the rest of his life. He was. And just like who've, right? And you don't forget where you came from. So you don't want to look a gift to us in the mouth. And he gladly took a long-term deal last year.
Starting point is 00:29:43 When did you do it? He signed it beginning of last year maybe March 7 2024. Okay. And it's like good enough for me. Yeah. And it's great. Of course he knows it was it was a Florida money. They're good. It's a mistake. You know, hindsight but it's a mistake by 50% but it's a mistake But it's also a mistake that could learn eat make him a three-time Stanley Cup champion or four times Stanley Cup champion Yeah, you do that in Toronto. That's worth a lot of money do that in Florida you get cheap ears at the elbow Where's Nico Mica? La? Where's he got one more year? Yeah That guy can you love me? mean too. I was on this guy. I'm a Nico fan. You love this guy
Starting point is 00:30:29 He's got one light year left. Yes, five. Yeah, that one's gonna and how old is he getting cool? Look off at 1.15. Meekal is 29 He's a six and they got Seth Jones who's just how old now and if Jones has just found it seven mil They're gonna pay him with after the the retention. He's gonna be till 2030. They could be a three-time in raw. What do you think act blight does? Lee so I he's the one that I think if anyone leaves leaves however No, no mark mark Oh Bert Marchand March and I think he's kind of an essential piece of their DNA Echplat because he's like this He's this nasty back-end defender who has a 57 point season on
Starting point is 00:31:07 his resume. He scored some big goals in this playoff run in Tampa Bay. He scored a really big goal. How old is he? He's only 29. Is that right, Justin? Yes, he's only 29. Oh, he could be looking at a seven year deal.
Starting point is 00:31:22 For sure. I'd give it to him in a heartbeat. Would you give him? Would you get him eight times seven? Yes. Yeah, okay And then you find a way to move Morgan Reilly and you have him instead of Morgan Reilly I have a theory that defensemen with pedigree high draft pick D man Yeah, people thought we're gonna be a player have are better longer like, you know You're gonna get good 30s out of these guys and neckblad is a little more injury prone So that makes me a little hesitant saying that with him, but 6 4 2 15 good offensive sense nasty
Starting point is 00:31:53 Do you guys want to bring you guys want to do? Game time and then on the other side break it in some clips sure Because I had some some really good because we haven't mentioned the guy who scored four goals in the game So that was pretty cool Sam It's game time. Is that about bad 365 is that the app latest odds of find out why it's ever ordinary at bet 365 That's 19 plus on terror only please play responsibly. So I Quickly went on to bet 365. Well, you guys are talking to check out the Stanley Cup favorites for 25
Starting point is 00:32:25 to check out the Stanley Cup favorites for 2526. It better be Florida. Who do you think? Everybody's jumping on my bandwagon right now. Who do you think the favorite is? Florida. No. Edmonton? No.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Well, Edmonton is tied with this. Colorado, Dallas, Vegas. No, Carolina. Oh, wow. Stop it. If they get a single bet on that I would be Lord stop it what no it's seven to one I need people who bet on hockey stuff to listen to me and the books need to know hold on hold on okay right before you'll
Starting point is 00:33:00 get the same odds before the Stanley Cup playoffs you're gonna get now you can let a Get a whole bunch of information on teams before you place that bet unless you're betting a long shot today Yeah, because you think someone's gonna sign there don't bet so can I say something that made me very worried? About this as I look down the list to see where the Toronto Maple Leafs were Top 10 not even're 20 to 1. That's the longest they've been on. The Panthers, the Stars, the Golden Knights, the Lightning, the Devils, the Kings, all ahead of them. I didn't love that.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Who do you disagree with? The Devils maybe? Anyways, I thought I would bring that up because I think it's hilarious that the Carolina Hurricanes are favored. Where are the Oilers in that? They're tied, seven to one. Did they maybe, are they pricing in Marner signing in Carolina? Is that what that is? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:33:52 What do they know? More than us. And tonight, down at Roger Center, the Toronto Blue Jays will look to win the series against the Arizona Diamondbacks. Eric Lauer on the mound for the Toronto Blue Jays. It is a pick a minus 110 on both sides blue Jays with an Unbelievable win last night. You'll hear all all about it right after us with Leonard Barker another killer Beezer Yeah, but man bobershet and then barger
Starting point is 00:34:14 Barger sickest arms in the league. So Jays are getting hot with against these kind of crappy teams at home. And yeah That's a pretty sick. It was a pretty sick on over and swing on the Mikey bird I've seen bigger arms than a snake than over here. Anyways, that was Game Time. Is it about 365 visit the athlete? So I had to find out why it's ever ordinary at bet 365. Let's run a team plus on terror only please play responsibly. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's never too early after a Stanley Cup has been dished out to talk about pending a beautiful free agents. Yes, we are. By the way, I just want to say, I love that Barkov did like the European soccer, bringing it low to the boys. Awesome. That's a really great.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And look at them all. They're so happy. And I hate these guys and I'm so happy for them. Hey, how about passing it around first to the guys that haven't won it yet? I was a real team move too. Come on. The fans are like, hooray, guy. I don't know. You haven't won it yet. I was a real team move to come on fans are like hooray
Starting point is 00:35:06 Guy, I'm you know can't hate this team. Oh, I do like March and Didn't touch it Jealous, but you don't hate them Agent talk next when we return to Real Kipper and Bourne. Hey, it's Nick Kiprios. And I'm Justin Bourne. We're diving deep into everything happening in Leafland and the biggest stories around the NHL.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Real Kipper and Bourne, weekdays from four to six on Sportsnet, Sportsnet 590 The Fan, and wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the show. Nick Kipriels, Justin Bourne, Sammy McKee as a reminder this hour of Real Kipper and Bourne brought to you by bet 365 Sam Reinhardt. Stud. Four goals last night. I don't know. What was the last time that happened?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Like 18, 12? Sam Reinhardt became the second player in NHL history with four goals in the Stanley Cup clinching win. Following Babe Die, 1922 with the Toronto St. Patrick's. You know, not enough dudes getting named Babe anymore. Overall, he is the fourth player in NHL history with three plus goals in the clincher cup. Mark Stone in 2023. Die in Jack Darrow with the 1920 Ottawa Senators.
Starting point is 00:36:28 That's a pretty good old timey voice. Thank you. So he took a he was taking a little heat a for him and Barkov a little bit for not scoring in these playoffs. But when you're so well balanced. It's like they don't have a one two or three line. They got like a 1a 1b and 1c You know I will say those four goals really changed the way his playoff numbers look this year cuz yeah They you know without that he only had seven goals in 21 games. It's 11
Starting point is 00:36:56 I got the one thing goals in a Stanley Cup clinch again. He's he's a selkie candidate Isn't he on second place second place? All right, and he's constantly there with Berg Berg off and he did go from 57 goals to 39 But when I watch him he's He always plays the same way for goal score And I dry saddle has this a little bit too
Starting point is 00:37:24 And I saw it in the finals, that there's an element when you're expected to score that you gotta get your cookies, you gotta even cheat when you have to, blow the zone, you know how I feel about all that stuff. And there are times when I watch Dry Cytl in these finals where he's pressing and there's an element to cheat. He's the one guy that I can watch and know for sure
Starting point is 00:37:44 he ain't cheating. So if he goes- And that's why element that he's the one guy that I can watch and know for sure he ain't cheating So so if you go I team Canada loves and if he goes from 57 to 39 goals, he doesn't care Whereas some goal scorers would go. Oh My god, it's a horrific. I can't stomach my thought of me only scoring 39 goals after I know I'm a 50 or 60 goal scorer I tell you though watching that highlight pack and of course we do think about the Leafs here often, watching Barkov, you know, Skinner, what is it, 2-1, 2-0, Skinner blockers that one to him, Barkov walks into it, it's like Clapper City, he can step into it, and
Starting point is 00:38:20 he's just, you know, got the poise and vision to just be like, if you look when he's getting the puck Reinhardt's not open He's coming around a guy He sees it developing makes a little backdoor play a lot like he did with Verheggie against Carolina when like yes I have to do a play that wasn't there yet wasn't there yet. It's just like You know these their offensive guys aren't one-dimensional they they can pass it they can shoot it Let's play the clip from Maurice number two Derek on Barkov and Reinhardt. I think Barkov got better. I don't want to go through the injury list but in game one
Starting point is 00:38:52 Sasha split his handle the palm of his hand for 13. Oh, and he had those sutures torn out twice till he just glued it together. So that had something to do with his point of production. Sam Reinhardt had a grade two, grade two MCL in the Carolina series and took some days off. It took him a few games to get back to health. I think they were both just healthy. But if you're Sam Reinhardt, who gets your story? story? The game winner in game seven and overtime last year and you bang in four No, nobody's gonna say whether it's a goalie and that then nobody's gonna carry. He just scored four goals That's pretty good story. I like that clip Nobody's gonna ask I got four bud they went in for across the line in the Stanley Cup clinching game. Yeah, it's amazing. Our cop was a point-for-game guy. Hey
Starting point is 00:39:51 They could end up with Six Hall of Famers on this team. That's what I was gonna ask you guys six gunner text me last night and asked me How many six six? You know Marchands in there obvious. Yes, I'm a. Yeah, yeah Reinhardt Barkov Bobrovsky Yeah, oh, yeah Yeah, I'm telling you I'll tell you another guy for Zing. No, no, no, no, I will throw out Carter Verhege whoa, yeah, I will I will and longevity and longevity will have to be a key for him
Starting point is 00:40:26 but another Stanley Cup and he gets his Playoff numbers up and Guys, I'm telling you for me. I appreciate the conversation on other players if they're Hall of Famers or not and you know because we cover the Toronto Maple Leafs and Tavares' numbers, his regular season numbers are Hall of Fame worthy, but he doesn't,
Starting point is 00:40:55 he's never played a big game in the playoffs in his career. It, you know, if he were to ever, let's say play eight more years, his, What's that? Well, he's only 400 NHL games. I just had a physical reaction to somebody sent us If he were to ever let's say played eight more years his what's that you need to tell well? He's over 400 and he's all games. I just had a physical reaction to somebody sent us a picture of Barkov's hand oh yeah, I'm a tweeted it to us. It's very you know that to me is Hall of Fame is is playing
Starting point is 00:41:20 Big in big games. He's played six seasons in the NHL so far Carter Carter We're here 29 years old has three Stanley Cups three Stanley Cup I didn't realize I played eight games for that Tampa team. Yeah, you know, so when I was with the Marlies he was with Syracuse and we played them in playoffs and remember writing his name up on the board at that hit He's 24 at that point and he's still not in the NHL and going to ask it's all right You know, he's effective player for them them. Play another seven, eight years. If he wins another cup or two, he's got no problem looking big. He plays hard too. Like he plays so hard on the four check.
Starting point is 00:41:58 He's a guy that could, for me, could get in there one day. If everything went right. If everything went right one day. Great. At-Blad? Career. Why? I don't know. Why? Why? I mean, why can't it all depends how long this Panthers run goes on for. Are they going to be the eighties Islanders? If you can build cups and get your games played into the 150 mark of of playoff games and you're a 20-minute guy just don't look at goals and assists boys. It's funny Reinhardt and Kichuck and Verhagge all
Starting point is 00:42:33 finished with 23 points which is 10 points behind the Leon and Connor who both had 33 so first place is 33 points the two oilers guys 10 points later are the steady Reinhardt Kachuk for Hagee Bennett at 22 so they had four guys all just sniffing right underneath there. Um Sam Bennett bark off 22 Marcia. I'm gonna Wow cons my How about this stat became the first the second player in NHL history to score 15 plus goals in a postseason without any The second player in NHL history to score 15 plus goals in a postseason without any 30 goal regular seasons on his resume to that point First to more than a century New Zealand 17 in 1919 with the Montreal Canadiens Is it actually New Zealand? Yes
Starting point is 00:43:25 So if you if you had Sam Bennett before the playoffs for Conn Smythe, oh god for 20 bucks. You'd be rich I actually saw someone that bet thirty seven dollars or something on it one over four grand. Oh my god Yeah, that's a nice payday wait It was a long shot, but there he is so you see the elbow room this morning kept no, they're all drunk They're still there. Well, they were drunk. Are they watching? Congratulations guys. Yeah, I picked you I'll flip another I'll flip another finger for you guys you guys can flip those ones uh they were chanting eight more years eight more years or was chanting eight more years at Sam Bennett and Sam Bennett's taking part going eight more years eight more years yeah Kyle Lowry did that too didn't he
Starting point is 00:43:57 know why you see any scenario where he doesn't end up resigning there? Zilch. Zero scenario. Here's what I was thinking this morning. It's like there are all these myriad reasons why people make the choices they make about where they want to sign. What doesn't Florida offer him? What's not there?
Starting point is 00:44:18 What can't he get there that he could get somewhere else? Money. If it were only about money is the only answer if they want to give him eight by eight or something and someone else wants to give him seven by ten eight by eights better than seven by ten money depending on the market it's better than Toronto's ten yeah eight eight eight in Florida is better than Toronto's ten yeah you know I got some quibbles with how we sell over some of that stuff without doing the actual John DeVar has won his Case the other day which he only had to pay 15% on his signing bonus instead of 50 that helps Canadian athletes
Starting point is 00:44:55 And I think it helps the appeal good good for him. It's not about him. It's about in Canada Our session no I mean percent perception in the reality that if you send the Blue Jays or the Raptors or whoever, there's ways to get around things. Right. There's a there's a an RCA they call where you could put money away and reclaim it after your your tax bracket goes down. There are ways anyway. So anyway, the point is I don't know
Starting point is 00:45:26 if it's as clear necessarily. So there are three big name free agents now. Sam Bennett, we all agree stays. Yeah. Marshand, we all agree go. Yes, they can't afford him. And Ekblad, we all agree stay. We go. I think he stays you know to share
Starting point is 00:45:49 I think Florida's gonna have some say I'm not sure I'm not sure they want off from eight years because of injury yeah I think he's been beat up a little bit too I'm not sure if they're there maybe he doesn't want all eight years I don't know but I think he's very comfortable there. God he really lifted that cup up great last night. He really got it up there fast. 56 games this year, 51 the year before, 71, 61, 35, 67. He hasn't played 82 games. No. He's always been a bit of a... But playoffs 19 24 20 he's playing playoff performer Huge you had that big rest too
Starting point is 00:46:31 It doesn't hurt really good call taking 30 games off which didn't count against their cap Was it 20 or 30 20 20 and and it was the funniest thing after he said he's like the healthiest he's ever been funniest thing after he said he's like the healthiest he's ever been or something like that. Yeah I bet. It was like a miracle. Yeah I bet. Yeah. I bet he was. Do you want to hear Bennett on Brad Marshand?
Starting point is 00:46:52 Is that anything? What do you like Sammy? You've heard of all these. I do. I did listen to them all. I really like Bennett on the Panthers culture. I know it's going to make me sick, but it's a really good clip. Clip one on the Panthers culture from Bennett, please I mean it starts with the culture here
Starting point is 00:47:08 There's a way that we do things here and it's it's it's not easy we don't play an easy style hockey it it demands a lot out of you, but I Think the main I mean every single guy has bought into it but You know once the new guys come in they instantly bought into this what we do here and the commitment to being great, to winning. Every single guy just really bought into that and I mean it starts with the culture but the character of the guys I think that's that's that's why we're able to do this okay he's wrong it doesn't start with a culture it starts with a man who sets the culture I give a ton of credit to Bill Zito yeah I mean he's done an unbelievable job Seth Jones he's built a management team guys he's definitely playing with a different set of rules than everybody else, but he's doing a good job with him Oh, I'm gonna invest he can't yeah, uh is I mean this listen. It's six straight
Starting point is 00:48:14 Finals for a Florida team including four wins They've been very there's something there anybody could be successful then there ain't anybody. He's done a great job. No question. No question unbelievable job with some attention But I think like you kind of think of going into this offseason I think culture is always like a buzzword and like trying to build a sign a guy and fix your own I know that that's now I feel like that's gonna be a huge everyone's looking for the culture It's like you're looking for it. You just can never replicate this mix of guys No, it's just the most perfect mix of guys and they're an all-time team now three straight finals two cup wins
Starting point is 00:48:50 Like they are a modern-day dynasty of the last 17 Stanley Cups that have been won Five teams have won 12 of them So it's three for Pittsburgh three for Chicago two for LA for LA, two for Tampa, two for Florida. Like only five teams are one and it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to get your name on a Stanley Cup. Oh, these guys are hogging it. It's typically that's the way it's gone. Oh, oh, oh, and history parody by the way is a very real thing, but the best teams are winning pretty consistent. Yeah. That's it. Wow. That's it. Our thanks to nobody. Guys.
Starting point is 00:49:27 It's just us. We thank the three of us. Congratulations to the Florida Panthers. We're not going anywhere anytime soon. We're going to take this show right to the end of the month. And then we go first week in July. So plenty more on the Real Kipper and Boren show. Quick shout out Jonah Gadjiewicz, own side of tack legend for winning the Stanley Cup last night. We're back again tomorrow on the Real Kipper and Boren show quick shout out Jonah Gajdjiewicz, own sound attack legend for winning the Stanley Cup last night.
Starting point is 00:49:46 We're back again tomorrow on the real Kipper and Boren show. Have a great night everybody.

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