Real Kyper & Bourne - Round One Previews with Garry Galley + Series Picks

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Nick Kypreos and Justin Bourne are joined by Garry Galley, former NHLer and colour analyst for Sportsnet & Hockey Night in Canada to look at some of the Round One matches with the playoffs getting started on Saturday (5:07). They discuss the goaltending tilt between Jordan Binnington and Connor Hellebuyck, whether the Montreal Canadiens can continue their special season against the Washington Capitals, why it's a perfect matchup for the Caps, the Ottawa Senators being a perfect test for the Maple Leafs, how the Sens can control the series, worries about Edmonton Oilers' depth, and how important will the Battle of Florida be dictated by the status of Matthew Tkachuk. Then, Nick, Justin and Sam McKee share their series picks for the First Round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

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A show before the Stanley Cup playoffs begin tomorrow night. Sportsnet has both games. 6 p.m. Eastern, St. Louis Blues and the Winnipeg Jets, followed by Colorado and Dallas. Just two games on a Saturday night. Yeah, I don't think the league itself would have drawn it up this way if they could have avoided it. But so many teams played on the final day of the season.

You know, one of the things could have been that LA had the fires. They had to postpone a game and play on the last day of the year. Maybe that would have made Edmonton LA a Saturday night game, which I'm sure we would love to have had. So maybe juggling little jug. Yeah, we don't know all the ins and out building availability, all of that. Four games on Sunday and then Florida Tampa Bay plays in twenty twenty seven. Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. The first Saturday night of the Stanley Cup playoffs, is not a 7 p.m. Puck

drop hockey game. Yeah. That is when has that ever happened? It's unusual but I there's hockey at set. For sure it's great. But I'm gonna be watching the Winnipeg Jets do the damn thing. For sure but I feel like the first night it's overload. There's a game on every channel, you're flicking, it's like, oh my God, and it's just, having it be one standalone game feels like we're in the conference finals already. Yeah, what's the Sunday first puck drop?

Six p.m. Oh no, no, it's three p.m. There's Carolina and the Devils play at three p.m. and it goes into Toronto at seven. Everyone's gonna get back from Easter brunch and fire it up. Yeah, definitely. We're gonna welcome in Gary Galley in a few minutes,

but before we go to him, if I would have told you maybe six or eight weeks ago, even if st. Louis was looking on the outside in if There's a chance that st. Louis could get hot and maybe sneak in and Winnipeg would get them would you go? Yeah, perfect. Perfect. All right, and do you Where are you on St. Louis now playing Winnipeg after they've won like a gazillion games in a row? My biggest Winnipeg concern is they are a team, top to bottom, solid all the way throughout. But when you take away Ehlers and Velardi,

who I don't know if Velardi's available or not, I worry about their ability to put the puck in the net. They'll be fine. They'll be fine? Yeah. All right. All right. Let's ask our next guest, Gary Galley, former NHL or color analyst, will be a very busy man on Hockey Night in Canada as he always has been in the past and does a terrific job. Gary, how are you? How excited are you? And, you know, we want to stay on the Winnipeg Jets right now against St. Louis so we'll get your thoughts as well. I'm great I mean it's time of year as

you guys know is the greatest time of year ever I mean spring has sprung and the playoffs are getting started and we all know what that's all about and how exciting that can get and and I think even though people have thoughts in their head of who they think are going to win series and who they think are, you know, are going to be really important for a team in a series, you really don't know until this thing gets going. You really don't. And Winnipeg St. Louis is one of those series where I think you look at a team like St. Louis that has been on such a role. You look back to the time when they got in and won the Stanley Cup

and all of those things they're going to draw from history in order to move into the playoffs against what most people would think would be a very tough president's trophy winning Winnipeg Jets. But, you know, one goalie went into the Four Nations Cup and came out like Hercules in Jordan Bennington. And, you know, for Connor Hellebuck, you know, he was hoping to bring the U.S. to win that tournament. It didn't happen. He's had an incredible season. We've talked about him. Certainly the Vezina, but I mean, really seriously in the heart conversation. Um, it is just one of those things where unfortunately hate to be disrespectful

for to a guy that has played so, so well, but the playoffs have not been a shining moment for him in the last few years where they've exited in the first round, not all his fault for sure, but he hasn't looked himself and he hasn't played to the level that he played during the regular season and he's going to have to do that right from the drop of the puck in the first series and be that Connor Hellebock that he can be and if he is, Winnipeg will be a very very tough out. Now injuries, who's healthy, who's ready to go, you know I mean their defense is a defense that has gotten beaten up the last few years. Morrissey's gotten beaten up.

You know what the playoffs are like. You've got a red circle on the board. That's the guy. Never pass up on a hit. Chase him down. Finish everything with veracity on this person. Make his shifts hard. Like, it wears down people.

And so it's going to be interesting to see. But I am picking Winnipeg in this series. I like them. I think they've just really proven down the stretch. They've taken Dallas down. They've beaten good teams, even at the end when you think they're going to let up. I think there's something, there's a burr up in their saddle. And I think they realize that they don't want to be on the other end of this thing again.

So Gales, I believe you're paying extra special attention to Montreal, Washington. Is that your you're doing that series? Yeah, I thought what the heck, you know, is way to the last day of the season to get my assignment. You know, I followed Montreal a lot this year. Yeah, I've had a chance to watch watch this team drag along the bottom and scraping the bottom and then I've seen the rise to the top. I've seen them play with consistency I've seen them play where they've had trouble finding their game. I think you know there was an interview there. I that Mac did

with Suzuki right before the game. And his calmness struck me really like he's a calm guy to start with you know it really struck me that how calm he was and he said that we were a team that used to shoot ourselves in the foot. This is what we did and we did it way too much and we've learned not to do that. So I think Marty saying that we has convinced this team obviously that there's a right way to play this game.

And yes, you can have some individual skill sets within the game, but the team game has to be, the identity of the team has to be there. And they've built that. And now they're reaping the benefits of it. And they're going to be a fun team to watch in the first round. I mean, go back to 2010. And yes, they got in on the last day. They didn't win to get in that time. The 2010. And yes, th day. Uh, they didn't win uh, the Rangers lost, whi they took down the Washi the first seed versus the

15 years ago. So I don't that. But certainly, you that it can be done. Othe it and why not Montreal? This season, you know, has been special. Maybe it will continue. Washington, I worry about the energy that was spent on Ovechkin.

And it was wonderful for him and the team and the league and everything. But now you're coming off this one emotional thing that was so important to everybody. And now you're trying to find your lane again and get ready for the playoffs. You know, certainly most people will be picking the caps to win this series and they should, but I'm really interested to see how they're going to play in game one. I think game one is going to tell a lot for the Washington Capitals. You're watching and listening to Gary Galley, former NHL'er Color analyst, as we get set to start the Stanley Cup playoffs right here on Sportsnet this weekend.

So Gals, if we talk about like expectations and soaring ones to say the least, we do go to Winnipeg and Toronto. But for Montreal, Canadian teams facing a Washington capital team, which at the beginning of the year, we weren't even sure if they were a playoff team. How much how much pressure is on Washington now compared to other teams that have built over years of disappointment in the playoffs? I think if you're being honest, I think Washington got the team they wanted. I don't think they wanted anything to do with Columbus.

I think that they feel that I believe this is just no one's told me that. I'm just saying I just put myself in their shoes. Columbus kind of took them down two or three times during the season. I think they just feel like Montreal was the team that I think they would say, hey, if we get Montreal, that would be great. They've had a better record against Montreal. Their specialty teams have been outstanding against Montreal. That's one thing Montreal is going to have to really take care of.

I just feel like that's a better match for them. Everybody like in four series and Nick, you would know this better than I would, but there always seems to be one series that goes easily in the four. You don't know when it's going to be. It could be in the first one. It could be in the fourth one, any one of those. But one goes relatively simple. On my way to the Stanley Cup finals in 90,

it was the semifinals against Washington. We swept them in four. We were not expecting that. It just happened. So there's always going to be a series you think is going to be easy, and it's a bear of a series. And then there's a series you think is going to be tough

and you tend to get through it. So the Stanley Cup is a strange island. You never really know when you get to the dance, you know, when the series is going to dig in and go seven and when it's going to end quickly. And I think this is a good series for Washington. The travel is fairly easy for them and it's a team that they've had success against. So why wouldn't they be confident? Why wouldn't they come into this ready to go? I like their team they play. I like the wa mean how I mean they've

really good about their going to be a tough team I get what you're saying are probably not through think four or was not a lot of expectat to go that Montreal may m may not. But when they go

number of points and they to get in, expectations w going to get in and then You know, when expectati anxiety and all those thi your brain. stumble, you know, when expectations creep up, that's when anxiety and all those things get into your into your brain So, you know, it was nice to see them win that last game push themselves in feel good about yourself going in I I think it's gonna be a six to seven game series. I do believe that But I think you know, I think Washington is a team that I think at the time when they need to will put the hammer down.

Gals, as we always do when we have you on, it's fun to go around Canada a little bit. And there's one series that has two Canadian teams. The Toronto Maple Leafs are playing the Ottawa Senators. One team has ghosts everywhere. The other team, you know, excited about being back in the postseason. Are you one of the people who is picking Ottawa with their energy, their youth and Brady Kichuck and all that to upset the Toronto Maple Leaf? Yeah, I played on a team every time I went to the forum there were ghosts everywhere.

Yeah. I know what ghosts look like, you know, and so yeah, I get it. Toronto is a different team. Like over the last few years following them, they, you know, and under Sheldon Keefe, I think they were a different team. Under Craig Barubi, their identity has shifted, it's changed, they've morphed into a team that doesn't let, will want you to believe that a loss, a bad loss is not going to bother them.

They're just going to shake it off and they're going to go right back at it. They've shown that at times this year where, you know, they've said, hey, it's not a big deal and they moved along and they've got back on track. They've won the division. There's a lot of things I feel like this team is starting to feel a comfort around and to win the Stanley Cup you have to find comfort in the pig pen. When things are going bad, when things are ugly, when things don't look like they're, you know, whatever. You got to find calmness and you have to trust that you are going to come out of this if you play the right way. Toronto seems to be getting more like that. So this is a really good test for them in the first round. I think this is a great test

for them in the first round to play a team that you know that that that they know there's going to be some energy driven by the Battle of Ontario, Playoff Series past, all these things are going to get dredged in here. But at the end of the day, they're playing a young team that has not been here in a long, long time that has to handle that. And they're playing a young team that's going to be, you know, full pisse of vinegar, ready to go, ready to hammer on everything. And they have to get through the energy of Ottawa and let the game settle and then start to take control of the game. If they're capable of doing that, I like Toronto. But if they get caught up in the energy and excitement of Ottawa and they get off of their game, which Ottawa can do, they can do that.

They have done that to a lot of teams. They can disrupt your identity and make you play out of your comfort zone. And they're more than capable of beating Toronto. This should be a very good series. And I look at this series as kind of a pick them guys. I don't really know. I'd like to be able to say it, but I don't really know. There's so many things here that would tip you one way or another, but I think of Toronto,

that's the thing, if they could hold onto their identity and even through some rough patches, I like them, but if they can't, I can see Ottawa creeping in there and taking that. No question, I think in the big picture, Toronto's the favourite. So I wanna expand on what you just said, Gals, and just tell me how Ottawa can disrupt them

specifically here. Is it the physicality? Is it specialty teams? Is it all Mark? Give me a couple of reasons how Ottawa can beat the Toronto Maple Leafs. Ottawa does an incredibly good job of taking away your time and space. They puck pursue, they get on you quickly,

and when Ottawa is on their game, they control the neutral zone. They control the you quickly. And when Ottawa is on their game, they control the neutral zone. They control the rush speed. So if they're exiting and they're coming with you at speed, they can control that neutral zone. And to me, a lot of times a team that has a chance, the best chance to win a game is a team that controls the pace of the neutral zone.

Do they come up? Do they clean out of their end? Do they get into your end with speed? Do they back you off? These are the things, the reads and things like that, that when Ottawa's on their game, Toronto will have less time to read and react. And you look at when they play teams that do that to them, sometimes they can have some issues and sometimes they can get put back on their heels. So if they allow Ottawa to get that kind of puck pursuit and get on them and they can't

be clean coming out of their end, get those rush chances back off Ottawa a little bit, then I think they could get themselves in a bit of trouble. Goaltending, Almark certainly has been a real story for Ottawa. I think Stolarz is a good match for that. I think the goaltending could be something where we could see some really good goaltending in this series, similar to the ones where we used to see Lundquist and Holtby, like, you know, a seven game series

and then you'd seen the best goaltending in so long. I think this is a series where we could see some really good goaltending at both sides. More often than not, it comes down to execution. And when Toronto gets in trouble, I think they play a team that gets on them quickly, harasses them when they need a little time and space to make plays, and then turnovers

and scrambling plays start happening. And I think that's where it can get a bit ugly. So, and that's where I see Ottawa the most successful is when they have that incredible puck pursuit and speed and they get on you. As you know, as were heading into the season looking at all these Canadian teams and looking at betting odds the team that was supposed to be actually I think the cup favorite once Edmonton where I think they were the actual favorite pre-season going into the year. At this point they're not that. How concerned are you with their injuries that they're not going to be able to be the best version of themselves in the postseason?

Well Everyone plays everyone's going to play hurting the playoffs if you can play right? Yep That's that's the thing that that that hockey players do You know unless you literally can't do up your skates and i and matthew kachuk a couple years ago Couldn't even do his skates up and he went out and played you know I think his brother did his skates up for him and then he went out and played with injuries that you should not be playing with so this is a hockey player so hockey players you know so a coach has to put the best version of his team out there and the

guys who are banged up and there are going to be a lot of guys going into these playoffs with some nicks and bruises and bangs and some injuries that are a little more serious than others. So when you look at a team like Edmonton that has a number of injuries, a lot of things happen like as guys start, if the team can hold on and play good hockey and keep the series tight, as guys start to come back, then you know, there's energy brought into the lineup, you know, so, you know, look to LA to want to jump on this quickly and they play incredible at home. And, and, and if Edmonton doesn't have the bolstering, a full lineup with guys that are capable of, of, of making LA defend,

you know, if you just let them come at you and play that heavy game and just clog up the neutral zone and you don't have any creativity to make LA get into their zone and defend and get to their net, then it's going to be a fairly easy series for LA and they've proven that they can do it. Especially at home where they're just really, really good. So, you know, you got to get to the game and see what Edmonton has in the pot and what guys can get out there and play.

And it's not gonna be hard to see. We all saw Dreislein last year on those one timers when he could get nothing on them. You know when guys aren't 100%. You know when guys aren't playing, but you give them full credit for stepping in and being there and trying to do whatever they can to help their team win.

So it's tough for a team when they go into the playoffs already beat up, because you guys know the beating you're going to take to win series one. And then you take your wounded, patch them all up, and then go into season series two and you're going to get beat up again. And you do that three or two more times after that. So it seems like a real tall hill to climb if when you're coming into the playoffs With a lot of a lot of guys who are banged up gals You've spent almost 1200 games defending in the National Hockey League and you know what a good core does for

This time of year in Edmonton at home goes down here We were already kind of questioning if Edmonton had the depth that they needed on the back end yet again this year What does this mean to McDavid and dry saddle? Can they make up for it at all here? Can anybody make up for at home not starting this series? I I'm not sure you could replace a guy like that, You know, especially like looking at it from a forward standpoint, like, oh yeah, if we keep the puck on our stick for 45 minutes of the game, we don't have to defend, then we won't need them. But, you know, the thing about the playoffs is you're playing good teams. These teams that you're playing are very good teams.

And there are going to be times in the game where they're going to, you know, you're going to bend, you're going to have to bend, and they're going to be out playing you, and they're going to, you know, you're going to bend, you're going to have to bend and they're going to be out playing you and they're going to spend time in your zone. And that's always the critical part of time when you look at a team like Edmonton and is that if they spend some time in their zone, are they good enough? Do they have a core of defensemen there that are good enough to defend for periods of time when you're bending but you don't break? And that comes down to goaltending. So your goaltending, when you have some guys who are in, in there, you need your goaltender to make saves that he's supposed to make. And you make them, you need them to make some saves he's not supposed to make.

And he has to keep your team in the game and give you a chance to win. And that's something that again, we're going to have to see what players are asked to increase their minutes and how they handle those increased minutes. It's okay to say, you know, we're gonna give this guy an extra six minutes a game, we're gonna give this guy an extra four minutes a game. He can go out and play those minutes,

but does he play them at a level that helps your team be successful? And that's the thing we're gonna have to see with Echo. And those are some really important minutes and leadership that you're taking out on that back end. So yeah, having the puck a lot would help for sure. But you know, LA is a team that turns over pucks, you know, they transition well. They're a very good defensive team. So it's going to be more of a chess match, which favors LA because, you know, Edmonton is not a chess match good defensive team. So it's gonna be more of a chess match, which favors LA,

because, you know, Edmonton's not a chess match kind of team. They're like the checkers where you're jumping leaping over people all over the play. They wanna get going, right? LA in that one three one is just wants to just, you know, make it a parking lot and just grind you out. Yeah, and they're awfully good at it too.

When I was filling up my bracket this week and trying to figure out who's going the farthest, the team I had the most trouble with was the team who talked about Edmonton because I wasn't sure about their health, and then Florida. Also kind of health related, right? Kichuck may come back, may not. Did you have an update on that, Kip?

Is Kichuck gonna play? He's practicing this weekend. They've not cleared him as of yet. I think it'll come down to Tuesday. Alright, like Ekblad's gonna be coming back. What do we make of the defending Stanley Cup champions and their chances at a repeat? I think that that first series is gonna be something special. Yes. you know, I really do close proximity. Um, you champion Tampa Bay has a

own. They know how to pl I like the moves Tampa Ba with their team at the de some guys in. Getzels hav made up for a lot of the goals that Stammer was there for. So this team has kind of moved along. Vasilevski looks like he's finding himself again. Tampa Bay is one of those teams

that people call the sleeper coming into the back end of the season. Oh, watch Tampa Bay, watch the... How do you take your eyes off a team that's been around the Stanley Cup as much as they have and have the players that they have on that team? How could you possibly think eyes off a team that's been around the Stanley Cup as much as they have and have the players that they have on that team? How could you possibly think they're a sleeper?

And if I'll tell you one thing, Paul Maurice doesn't think they're a sleeper. I get he knows what they are capable of. Now you've got his team. You got it. You got to bring that plan back into the mix. He's been out for a long time, been away from the team. He's got to come in and react. Lame.

Uh, you know, and, and you got to beat up Kachak. Now here's the mix. He's been out for a long time, been away from the team. He's got to come in and reacclimate, you know, and you got to beat up Kachuk. Now here's the deal. How many games do you tell him if he's not really ready? How many games do you hold him back where you feel like you can, because this isn't the Stanley Cup finals when he was beat up the last time and you have to play because there's no look tomorrow. If they win game one, oh, okay, maybe we don't need them till game three so they're gonna deal with Matthew Kachuk based on how the series is going if he's not ready to start I mean he may start in game one and that might be it but if he's not how the series goes will dictate when he comes in and when he doesn't but I know

they're putting a lot of, obviously a lot into a guy like Marchand who comes into there with cup pedigree, knows how to play in those games, in those tight games, and against physicality and stuff like that. So they're hoping he's gonna be a big part of it. So there's a lot of question marks really around

a Stanley Cup champion team that fell to third when they could have taken over and won the division. They didn't do it. So there's a little bouncing around. Paul Maurice said it doesn't really matter if you win the division and he's right. You got to win four series. Like I mentioned, there's going to be some easy, some hard. It doesn't matter. You got to win four hard series and we're going to see the Panthers have to do it. We're going to see Dallas or Colorado have to do it. We're going to see like there's a lot of series where when someone goes home it's going to be a bad bruise. It's going to hurt. Gals one more for me and we'll bring a full circle back

to the Montreal Canadiens here and the temptation by Marty St. Louis to lean on Demidov in this first round. I think he played maybe ten and a half eleven minutes on on your game Wednesday but like if you need a goal like is it if you've seen enough in this very short sample size that he can be a difference maker at all? I you know what? I think this whole thing has been incredibly like insane and crazy, but in a good way, you know, it's like you don't stop.

You bring this you bring this guy in remember Kovalov the way they that fans in Montreal used to love him. You know, Ortiz and he was like they just drooled every time he touched the puck. They were on the edge of their seat and he was going to do something special. This is Demidoff. He touches the puck and you feel the temperature and the excitement in the building just start rising every time he touches it. And I got to be honest with you. Every time he touches it, he does something, you know, really good with it.

He either, he either has that stop and go kind of shifty gear that he has that makes him tough to defend. He's got a great set of hands. He's got great vision. And I know there are some people saying that he struggles defensively. They saw that play in game one where he didn't back check. But I've watched him now for a couple of games

and he does have a defensive conscience to him. Now how deep that is we're going to find out. But I mean you see it in a small sample size that he's coming up the wall. He doesn't have a play. He dumps it back behind. He's not trying to force every single play. But when I looked at Lane Hudson at the start of the year where there was a seam in the ice that I didn't think he would have the fortitude to try to seam it through there, he would. And it's like he finds holes that don't look like they exist. And Demidoff, when he moves the puck, when he does things, there are times when I go, oh, he's not going to, and then he does it and he gets it to where it's going. So he's a very he's a talent and he's someone that Washington is going to have to

circle on the board, defend against and say look at this guy can create and do damage on his own so don't be fooled by this 19 year old kid coming over getting his first look at this. Hey Suzuki's got 32 playoff games in him. Who would have thought that? Caulfield's got 20. These are not guys getting their first taste in Stanley Cup. They have been there. So don't be fooled by this is a team that's, they've got games and when you have games, and for Montreal, Canadian's management, this is fantastic.

And for teams like Ottawa, you're going to play important games down March and April, and now you're going to play playoff games. And I don't care what anyone tells you, until you've played in them, you really have no idea what they're all about. And getting your young guys developing and getting them in playoff games,

win or lose this series, they have taken a incredibly large step as Ottawa. These guys are gonna start the field of playoffs now. They're gonna know. Gals, great job. Really enjoy your series. We're gonna lean on you through the Stanley Cup playoffs have a great call starting this week.

Gary Galley who was kind enough to step in Doug McLean is in transit he came up to take in the celebration of life of our good friend Greg Millen. Shout out to Gary Green, Coley Campbell, John Shannon and our Chris Cutbert who all spoke in Peterborough who did an amazing job and the kids, Ali, Emily, Carolyn and Charlie who also spoke and All I can say is I hope when our time comes we we got a send-off like that. Yeah, because it was circled around just three things for Greg Mellon yesterday, it was family friends and hockey and

it was it was It was touching for sure glad to hear I'm glad you went Okay, sorry, and yeah, Doug McLean scheduled his flight at five o'clock. So you didn't come on probably Yeah, he's not the brightest well or he is yeah very bright or Jill booked it His wife booked uh It's game time because of my bet 365 visit the athleteestodds and find out why it's

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Colorado Avalanche in seven games that's plus 500 So if you think Colorado is gonna beat them in seven games, it's plus 450, right? So you can go through all the different series and if you think you know what the series is gonna go for example If you wanted to bet the Toronto Maple Leafs to sweep the Ottawa Senators plus 650 if you wanted to bet to beat them in Seven games. It's plus seven. It's plus 375 so an interesting way to bet it there Yeah, so I'm just looking ahead to tomorrow night where the two games actually get underway yeah, and

The as you would imagine the Winnipeg Jets open as heavy favorites heavy favorites minus 190 in that game and that's mean, that's a pretty big spread for a playoff game. So the blues would be the best upset payoff. For sure. Is that what you're telling us? They're plus 160 in the game tomorrow. And I could look up what they would be in the series,

but I would imagine they would be a little bit higher than that for the series, but minus 190 for the Jets tomorrow. The Dallas Stars are plus 115 underdogs opening up on home ice Colorado minus 135 and looking ahead to Sunday night the Toronto Maple Leafs open their series against the Ottawa Senators minus 160 favorites in the first game against the Ottawa Senators who are plus 135 on the money line yeahcent value on the sense there pal and yeah looking way ahead the Monday night, there's a line for Washington and

Montreal which our friend Gary Gally will be calling Washington as you would imagine on home ice opens as big favorites minus 190 against the cat against tons of ways to bet these against Montreal who's plus 160 but there's a million different ways to go through it so going about 365 for all your playoff needs anyways that was game time presented by about 365 visit the app for the latest odds and find out why several ordinary bet 365 must be 19 plus Ontario only please play responsibly okay let's catch our breath and when we return we get down to the nitty-gritty first round predictions Cup finalists cup winner con Smythe all When we return to real kipper and born Everything you need to know about the Raptors and the biggest stories around the NBA Smith and Jones

Subscribe and download the show on Apple Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts As a reminder this hour of real kipper inborn is brought to you by bet 365 let's bring it home here boys, okay? at 365. Let's bring it home here, boys. Okay. We got Kip. What do we got? Pick a series and let's get at her. All right, I'll start. We'll just go through the bracket. Sammy, do you want to pull it up on? I could do it.

Winnipeg Jets St. Louis Blues. Are we gonna do team and number just team? No team and number. Team and number. All right. I got Winnipeg in six. Don't do it Jets talk no no no no, I'm not going st. Louis. No, I leafs in and Winnipeg Jets are in the same boat here. There's no option So there's no option to lose so

Six if we see that stretch of of st. Louis it could go seven but Winnipeg wins this thing okay yeah yeah give me Jets in five whoa I think that's too confident I don't think Bennington is gonna lose three out of four yeah no well they're, they got that insanely hot stretch. What was it? 13 in a row? They came back down to earth a little bit. The Jets have the history of the sort of Leafs middle of the country stuff.

I never say West for Winnipeg because it's like it's middle. Yeah, it's not West. So I grew up in the West though. I just, I think it's an easy one. They're much like Ottawa. It's an easy one to be like, oh, you though. I just I think it's an easy one. They're much like Ottawa It's an easy one of the goal, you know the but I think the Jets are unbelievable I know they're missing healers I know but there's a big injuries and no kippy but they have been so good all year long

And I just think they're gonna really surprise everybody in spank the Blues So give me the Jets in five. All right, Dallas, Colorado Sammy you follow up go go again Colorado in blues. So give me the Jets in five. All right, Dallas, Colorado, Sammy, you follow up. Go go again. Colorado in seven games. I think it'll be a close series. I think they're better. But I think they're division rivals. They're prideful. I think it'll be a close series. But I think Colorado comes out on top. I am so disappointed in Dallas is finished. Yeah. And to hear I'm so disappointed in Dallas' finish. Yeah.

And to hear Robertson get hurt as well. Mm-hmm. And I would have picked Dallas, but I can't pick Dallas any longer. You picked Dallas preseason for Cup, right? No. Oh. No, I did not. Florida?

Well, let's just wait. Wait for what? You're a producer. Oh. We're going through the series, and then we're going to go to finalists, Cup winner. Oh, no, preseason, I thought you picked them. I thought like the start of the year you had anyway. So you're calling. I'm going Colorado in six. I were the same so far. Colorado in six Dallas is goaltending. They lost seven straight games and their goal tenings been

putrid down the stretch. Vegas, Minnesota. My boy Gaz has Minnesota with an upset here. I just think the Vegas D are too ferocious and mean. Big. Championship pedigree. Yeah, give me Vegas, but I am going to say Minnesota gets a couple. So I'll say six again. I'm going Vegas in five. I'll go Vegas in five too. Two BGK in five. Mark Stone. They're too good. They're too good. Too good. Jack Eichel. Yeah. Too good.

Los Angeles Kings, Edmonton Oilers. Hmm. This is actually a really tough one. Yeah, I can't. I think at home's a big blow and I don't think they overcome it. Ooh. And I go LA in six.

LA in six. Really? Six? I means winning think they overcome it. And I go LA in six. LA in six. Six. That means winning in Edmonton. What do you do? I'm taking the Oilers and I'm taking them in six. Reason being, I think this year is going to be very close. Very tight, low scoring games. And in those games, who's going to be the one to break it open?

It's still the guys with the best players. Kimmy Oilers and 6-2. And Kemper is way better than I thought. Even when he won. I don't look at your pick and go, oh, you know, it's like, are we sure? Stu Skinner's there, are we sure? Without Ekholm there, Dee's good enough. There's lots of questions. How healthy are they?

But, you know, they're getting Kane back here, I guess now. Frederick is kind of a question mark for them. But they have Leon Dreisaitl, who is going to be the MVP probably. He won the Rocket Richard. They have Connor Mcdave. Those guys still play for the Oilers? They're still there. Okay, I'll take them.

Toronto Maple Leafs, Ottawa Senators. This is a fun one. I go Leafs and Six. Leafs and Six? Yeah. I also took Leafs and Six. I know everyone out there is like, of course you guys pick Leafs and Six.

There's not a metric where Ottawa is the better team. And everybody's gonna accuse us of Leaf Hour. They won the Atlantic. We, you know. So in my brain, there are ways that I can sort of like justify things and like my sports curse mind that I think. And I do think in my mind that it's better if I would pick Ottawa to win this series. But I just can't do it. You can't do it. So I believe that the Leafs are gonna win and I believe it's gonna be in seven games If you're talking about demons you're talking about whatever the old stuff with the Battle of Ontario They always go seven games every series they've played on seven games Give me the Toronto Maple Leafs in seven games Ottawa as a team does defend pretty well gals talk to them about them taking away time

And space their physical I dream about a world that is blow their doors off and sweep them But there's just no way that I play like Florida played the Leafs about a week and a half ago, two weeks? Oh boy, that's a big ass. Because not many teams can do that. That's the time and space that you're going to have to take away from these guys. Tampa Bay, Florida. This is another doozy. Boy, lots of Pick'ems here.

I'll go. Yeah, go ahead. Tampa Bay. I think Tampa Bay, I'm gonna say six games. I just feel like Florida has looked off. They've been not quite right. They're kind of we don't know if Kichuck's back. We don't know how that's gonna look after months off. I just feel like I'm not as confident in Florida as I have in years past I'm just I was so close to going with you but They were my pick at the beginning of the year to go back and repeat I

Think if they can split the first two games and get Echblad back. It'll take away Seth Jones is and get Ekblad back, it'll take away Seth Jones's pressure. Two or three minutes that he falls when he's got no reason to fall. Yep. And yeah, I still got them as champions. So I'm changing mine to seven games, but you got Florida going the distance.

I got a Florida in seven. We both see seven games on TV. I want to selfishly pick Tampa because I think a Tampa matchup for the Leafs if they get to the second round is a much better one. But I have a hard time picking against Florida. I really do. So give me give me Florida in seven games. Wow. Yeah. Florida picks. Okay. Washington Montreal. Are we going to get an upset prediction Washington and for whoa What's your actual Washington for like listen the Habs are a nice story? Yeah, Washington's too big too strong big just like they're just too but they're they're a bunch of men and their Habs aren't big enough I think the Habs are gonna get blown out of the water and that's not I don't see one out of the water I give them a couple of games, but I just think.

I think Washington brooms out, baby. Washington's a good big hockey club that plays the right way. Yeah, I also got Washington 6 6 really think like you watch them. I watch them barely know Carolina's Carolina's B team. They lose to Blackhawks you watch that Saturday night game against Elise. I'm doing five. It's four boys. Come on Come on. I'm giving them one Last series the one ever in his most excited Carolina, New Jersey who plays New Jersey He's back. It's good. Uh I'm gonna have a loner pick on this one. You went Devils? I went Devils too. Wow, really? I did. Shocked. I did.

I just, I see no goalie for Carolina. I'll be different and say Carolina, but I think there's definitely a case there. There's two goalies for the Devils and none in the paper Carolina but give me Carolina. I'm just going based on. I'm going six games just because. Carolina seven. Carolina seven. My one thing is the that stat I've shared several times that when the New Jersey defense is healthy they are really they're good and they're there maybe without Seigenthaler for the whole series but otherwise they're pretty healthy and I think they defend. Imagine Sheldon Keefe's Devils versus Drana Mae please in the conference finals.

Can you imagine that? Would you love the sound clips? Hey, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel. Oh, national hour, sorry, yeah. Okay, Stanley Cup final. It's so sour when I talk, Lisa, I love it. Stanley Cup final pick and winner. I love it Stanley Cup final pick and winner I

Have Tampa Bay Colorado with the lightning winning the cup in whatever six games. Yeah Florida and Colorado, okay, or to Colorado. Yeah, and I got Florida winning the Stanley Cup Okay, cuz I did six games. I didn't change my preseason sticking with it. You guys are voices Toronto Maple Leafs over Winnipeg Jets in the final all-canadian final the dream of sports Now I guess maybe the Abbot one is a dream But give me the Toronto Maple Leafs to win Lord Stanley's mug parade it down Yonge Street over the Winnipeg Jets, baby Give it to me. Let's go I did I did

Can't hurt I did 20 years of sports net and we we did this every year and John Garrett would pick the Vancouver Canucks Okay, every year. Yeah Didn't matter and was he able to defend your our John Garrett of the Toronto Maple Leaf Here's the best I gotta tell you I never do it I never picked Elise you actually don't I would never do it And I do feel like it's different. I feel like they've got a path and I feel like they're I never picked the least you actually don't I would never do it and I do feel like it's different I feel like they've got a path and I feel like they're going to win the Stanley Cup Holy smokes, okay That's I like you willing to do it. Yes

You're super fan and guess what when they lose game one to Ottawa these guys Makes a fan. Con Smythe. I went Barkov. Oh, I got Brandon Hagel. Oh, good pick. 90 plus points. Selkie Volks.

Playoff dog. Penalty killing machine. Him and Cerelli PK. I think Dimitri Filipovich put out some highlights of of them PKing today. Oh, Dubas wanted to trade Nice for nice. It was nice to first round picks for Hagel and Marc-Andre Fleury What a what if that is I don't know that I want I would do that even as good as Hagel is to firsts Fleury being I Think you have a meeting. Yeah, you got to talk. Yeah a meeting

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Hagels turned himself into one heck of a player, but this guy punch him Yes, he's fighting Matthew good Chuck to open up that thing all Canadians were like, okay. I love this guy Who's your least cons might winner Kipper listening? Yeah Mitchell Martin He signs a record breaking contract. $17 million per year. And then you start dumping on him by October 15th. No, I've told you at least when I'm done. Like, so you're talking about the end of my career.

I'm going to work at the beer store and be the happiest guy ever. So there you go. All right. Don't leave of my career. I'm gonna work at the beer store Be the happiest guy ever. So there you go Don't leave school. What a way to finish our regular season. Yeah, that's it It was if the Leafs win. Yeah, well, I think David's of our David's of art announced They're told the team is retiring. I wrote that about a month ago. Did you my Toronto starting kipper notes? Why don't you bring it up here so we could have talked about you guys don't ask We talk about your articles a lot. You read it every once in a while.

Hey, did you see this from the NHL? The NHL set league-wide record attendance this year. Is that right? Yes. When did this start happening that we're like... This year, I think. La Histoire du Hockey. Because they're doing a thousand outdoor games.

No. That's why they're setting attendance records. Well, people are going. That's actually a great point. I didn't even think of that. Well people are going that's actually a point. I think of that I say next year since 2003. I point to I say out next year. We play all outdoor games I don't know that's a great idea think about the records. You'll say I think next year. They're in Florida Yeah, they are doing it. You're just having to know to our game. Yeah, there must have been like 20 of them this year. I don't think there was.

I think there was like the least ever this year. Really? Well, there was that one. There was a year where we had like six. There's New Year's Day or around New Year's Day. I think there's gonna be a short hand count here, pal. That one, the canon one. But they also have the stadium series.

Which was that one. Oh, was it? I think there was just two. Just two? And then it was that thrilling blues Oh, is it? I think there's just two just two and then it was that thrilling Blues blackhawks. Why does it feel like there were 20 because they've been they beat it up pretty good I don't know five years ago when they was like, I remember the meeting up so bad. They sent Sam to one Yeah, I went I was like I sat on the glass. Yeah, I did

You didn't lose that on the bus. No, where's my jacket, Sammy? What a tune that was. What a way to close out our final show. Any closing playoff thoughts, overarching themes you're excited to see? This is fun. It's just a game. No, nothing. Nothing stands out. Good. I'm excited. Get mad at me, Ottawa.

You're not going to like me for two weeks. Yeah, that's fine. I like that Sammy's digging in against the Sens. Two games on tap. Tomorrow night, St. Louis and Winnipeg, Colorado and Dallas. Sportsnet has it all. You don't need to go anywhere else for the next two months except hang out with us here and everybody covering the Stanley Cup playoffs for you from Sportsnet.

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