Real Kyper & Bourne - The Impact of Crosby's Injury + Coffey Rejoins Oilers' Bench

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

Former NHL forward and two-time Olympic gold medalist Patrick Marleau (6:32) joins Nick Kypreos and Justin Bourne following Team Canada's slim victory over Czechia in Milan. He shares memories from his time representing Canada on the Olympic stage, Macklin Celebrini's showcase tournament, the impact of Sidney Crosby's absence, and more. Nick and Justin regroup with Sam McKee to react live to Sweden's late equaliser against the USA in the quarterfinals. Then, they get into some NHL storylines, including Paul Coffey rejoining the Oilers' coaching staff, and the team most likely to make a big splash at the trade deadline. Finally, they react to the USA's overtime win and question whether 3-on-3 is the right solution for Olympic overtime.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

It's the national hour on the real Kipper and Bourne show. We are live on Sportsnet. Sportsnet 650 in Vancouver. Sportsnet 960 in Calgary. And streaming always on Sportsnet. Plus, also available on Spotify, Apple Podcast, and YouTube, where we appreciate the chats, passionate chats, and a thumbs up as well. Nick Kipprio's Justin Bourne, Sammy McKee.

In a few minutes, we'll welcome in two-time Olympic gold medalist for Canada. Patrick Marlowe. also most games played in the NHL. History. 1,779. So if you're watching us right now, I've probably got a dual screen going with USA and Sweden, and I believe Sweden is going to a power play

early in the third period, 1-0 America, shots 31 to 20 for the States. So it's been a bit of a slog for Sweden. It doesn't look like they've had the puck much. I've been doing my show, you know, the show. I haven't been watching that closely, but it doesn't feel like they have the puck a ton. You guys say Vinnie Troche,

going to the box, not great. Probably hasn't played a whole time. Takes down Landisog. Twice. Double trip. This hour, Real Kippinborn, brought to you by Bet365, taking care of business. As far as Team Canada is concerned,

Mitch Marner scores the overtime winner. Canada survives a scare from Czechia, but they lose Sidney Crosby. Yeah, I mean, that was tense. That was tense times. I'm sure you guys were getting the text from people with the legit concerns about it. Obviously put myself in that boat too.

But end of the day, elite talent made some elite plays and he end up flying your way through and it doesn't matter if you win 10-0-0 or 4-3 in overtime. And a lot of people were on in Vancouver, we're on in Calgary, a lot of people hate the Leafs. So it was a really special moment for them to not only get the win but get the dunk on Leaf fans. So congrats to them.

And the depth of Team Canada, Nick Suzuki, a goal that we've probably seen a few times in a Montreal Canadian uniform. takes on a lesser role with this hockey club, but finds a way to score their biggest goal. And, you know, obviously Mitch Martner's goal was the one that keeps their gold medal alive here, but they don't get there without Nick.

Yeah, the, you watch Montreal Canadiens games. If they're down one, if they're tied, like Suzuki, Caulfields, Lefcovsky, they're a nightmare. They always score late. They score late all the time and score in overtime all the time. So that guy's a great guy to have out there in those sort of spots. you know, but much closer you would have liked Canada, couldn't find a way through a very defensive check team, right?

Big, strong, backed off, said, find your way through. And even though McDavid and McKinnon did often, all you can do from distance is shoot and just try to beat Dostall and Dostal was very good. And if this scoreline holds or USA ends up winning, they're going to play Finland in the semis. And Finland had the shaky start to turny, everybody talking about they wanted Paul Marisa's coach,

and then they've kind of gotten hot here. And I think you can expect a very similar game in terms of defensive team that's going to pack the paint, play a lot of guys behind the puck. It's going to be a slog against them too. It's a lot of guys like lecking and leaning on you. I mean, I don't sure if you saw the end of that game,

they came back in that game, tied it late and then lecking in on a breakaway and overtime was far down. He's a scary guy in a close game. Another ex-M Montreal Canadian. I could use him right now. I can't believe they gave him up for, I think they gave him up for like a second or a third.

It was a steal. You know what I was thinking about today is Sam Bennett. Like Calgary having both Matthew Kachuk and Sam Bennett, the core, two of the four core pieces of a Stanley Cup. It's crazy these guys how when they're in a wrong spot and it doesn't work for them, they just don't look like to have that much value. And all of a sudden piece.

We made that Sam Bennett trade? Yeah. But Bennett, he'll be back in for... Easy. He'll be back in for... Third round pick turnout claim. Canada. I hope he's back in.

I really hope he's back in. in. You'd have to imagine. If Sid's not going to play, he's obviously going to get back in, but you felt, I mean, in that game in the final against the States, obviously he scores that big goal, but you just feel him in big games. God, there's just, there's not a lot of vibe that Sid's going to find his way back into this tournament right now. I mean, it's rare to see someone leave. I know what happened on contact, but he left of his own volition after realizing it felt badly. So I think it's a concern. So I'm walking down the hall. To me, that,

That looks, and I'm purely guessing, ligamenty. Here's to hope and that's wrong, and he's able to find a way. Let's be honest, they're playing two games more now regardless. Yeah, you're right. You got a few days. Sunday's the big one. Not that Friday doesn't matter, but. You've got to find a way through Finland or Sweden.

Sweden down 1-0. Five minutes into the second period here. It's not more about these teams. It does get, the checking gets extremely tight now that we're down to, four teams basically. It is probably, you know, I say this all the time and I don't think people appreciate it. The hardest thing to do in hockey is score.

Like when a team starts backing off like this and they start, you know, they're so talented and they play a really conservative system, finding your way through, you're not going to, you don't beat anyone one on one at this level. So you, oh boy. So you need a breakdown. You need a system's mishap.

You only do that with puck movement. It's really hard to find your way through. And so these underdog teams, Finland, Czechia, they've always got a chance against good teams. There's a level where you just can't do it when you're Latvia, but these teams always have a chance. I wonder if the NHL

will look back on a whole and study the flow of the games, the chances, all of that because they did slice off three or four feet at this rink. And when you think about where the Olympic ice was once upon a time, right?

And where it ended up now in 2026. I played on it in college, six of our ten rinks were Olympic sized. It's a totally different sport. Our next guess, I'm sure, played on a big rink like that. Yeah. Right? Patrick Marlowe, we'll ask him about that as well.

Do we think then the NHL, they've made this sort of clear that they want to play on NHL-sized ranks? I would imagine you sit down with a Connor McDavid and a few stars, Jack Eichel, and you go around the league and once they're all done

and ask them, what do you think about it? it, right? Okay, as promised, Patrick Marlowe will join us now, two-time Olympic gold medalist for Canada, somebody that knows a few things about international hockey. Patrick, thanks for joining us, man. How are you? You're doing great. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Just give us a background on where we find you right now and in terms of how much the hockey that you've watched so far and your thoughts on Canada's win. have you had a chance to watch it thoroughly? Yeah, I was able to catch the last two periods today and my nerves are still shot.

Oh, my gosh. What a game that was. Yeah. And for Mitchie to get that winner at the end was unbelievable. It was awfully exciting and way closer than I think a lot of us anticipated. Now, you obviously won a couple of gold medals and have experience with this. I was just trying to make sense of, you know, how tough. it is to get through a team that is playing so defensive and Latvia comes to mind versus you guys

back in the day. It's just tough to find your way through the neutral zone and to create anything, isn't it? Yeah, it was, yeah, they were doing a good job of, you know, clogging up the neutral zone and, you know, kind of taking away the speed of team Canada today. And like you said, we ran into that against Latvia, the one time too. And it's, you know, those, those games are hard, Any game in the Olympics is hard to win because it's one one game takes, the winner takes all there. So everybody's putting their best out there and, you know, the boys pulled out a win today.

Obviously, the big news also is the fact that Sidney Crosby is left the game halfway through, Patrick. And just in terms of over your career scenarios when you saw somebody go down and what that can do to a hockey club, especially we heard from our Luke Fox earlier, that Sid was around in the intermission, you know, cheering the guys on. But what it, what it does to rally a team, like Team Canada? Yeah, it just definitely, you know, rallies the guys, you know, you want to, when someone gets hurt like that, you want to pick up the slack

and you want to, you know, win the game and, you know, win the game for, you know, for those guys that put their bodies on the line and, you know, sometimes do get, get injured. Hopefully, Sid can come back. But, you know, I think it definitely rallied the guys to get going and, you know, jump into action, get the win. Patrick, what was your experience going from being an excellent NHL player to your first Olympics, you know, being around all the other elite guys and trying to find your place in your game where you're not playing 22 minutes a night? Yeah, no, it was the first, the first Olympics was, you know, obviously eye opening.

at that point in our career, I think our lot of Jumbo Joe went to Danny Heatley went, Danny Boyle. So basically, you know, and I think our power play at that time was four sharks and then Shea Weber. So it was pretty nice to be able to step on the ice with those guys and have that comfort that first Olympics. Speaking of sharks, Patrick, this kid's cello, how do you pronounce his last name?

Like it's phenomenal what he has done and I know you being a big part of the San Jose Sharks have watched it rather closely but you must even be in awe of what Celebrini has done. Yeah, I think it's just

I mean, I've been seen it the last two years in San Jose and it's pretty amazing what that kid can do and you know he's just going to continue to get better and I'm glad that you know he's able to do it at this You know, the biggest stage there is, and he's showing the world what he can do,

and I think he's going to make some more Sharks fans out there by the way he plays and the tenacity he plays with and the skill and grit. And, you know, he just, he looks like he's driving the, you know, he's driving the bus for the sharks, and, you know, he's trying to do the same thing here. So for the rest of us who weren't all-world athletes, like, when you're super good, super young,

like, is there just no nerves? There's no, like, holy crap, look at the moment here? What does that even feel like? Yeah, I think, you know, some guys, there's certain guys that just have that about them where they relish those opportunities, those big moments. And I think you can pretty much, you know, look at anybody that's in the Olympics right now that they're the top of their, you know, in their country. And they want to be there. They want to have that pressure on them. And, you know, you can learn a lot by just looking around the room and from other guys that have been through it and how they handle it.

And I think, you know, Max is probably doing the same thing looking around the room and looking at. at Sid and Dowdy and seeing how they're handling things. As far as the goaltending is concerned, a lot of eyeballs on Bennington. He did not have a great season so far, but he's coming up large. But you've been around these tournaments long enough that, you know, your goaltender,

it's not necessarily the save. It's when the save is made. That can be a big difference, eh? Yeah, 100%. And, you know, Bingenton showed, time and time again where he's he's got that in it and he can make a big days and you know

making up the key times like he did today. So Patrick, what are you doing these days with hockey? Are you still staying involved? Yeah, I'm working with the sharks with the player development and have an advisory role there as well.

And right now I'm out in Kingston. You know, I was able to catch my son's game. We played with the... Oh yeah, congrats. That's awesome. Awesome. Yeah, yeah. So I'm still hanging out here and probably going to catch some more games of Landon. Hey, Patrick, before we let you go, we were having a conversation about the big ice surface that was there once upon a time in the Olympics and where we are today in Italy. And, you know, did you play in the real big rink at any point? And if so, you know, just your experience of the ice? No, I mean, yeah, we, growing up in Saskatchewan,

I think the biggest Olympic rink was in Notre Dame. So that was always a little interesting to go play there with the bigger ice surface. But no, just it makes, when you practice on those bigger ice sheets, is a lot more too, when you get, especially after you get a bagger going up and down the ice. But at the world championships and things like that, it's definitely a little bit of a learning curve with the bigger ice. but, you know, with the way the games now, it's so fast.

I don't know if it makes that much of a difference anymore. Well, you certainly made a difference when you skated, that's for sure. Patrick, really appreciate your time, man. Thanks for doing this. No problem. Thank you for having me, guys. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Patrick Marlowe. Yeah, the Olympic ice, one thing that people think is that there's more room. So it's going to be either faster or you're going to see more plays. But what happens is guys just get content to live on the periphery. they play outside the dots and they just get to have the pocket. I know where you've got to eventually get to. Totally. So I'll just wait for you.

Yeah. I'll be in here. If you want to stay out there, that's great. I'm defending in here. Do your circles and do your cutbacks. Yeah. Tire yourself out and then get off the ring and give it back to us. In the select few times that I've ever played on the Olympic size ice,

I'm always blown away by how far from the boards into the middle of the eye. When you like make that turn to west, like, oh my God. It feels like as wide as some rings. feel long. So, yeah, it's funny. I mean, it is enjoyable. Like, you do get to have the puck a little bit more stress-free at times, but that's not ideal for your viewing pleasure.

So, you know, I think a lot of people, we talked about Sid a lot in the first hour. We didn't really talk about it a bunch in the national hour here. But I think having him there is just, you know, in terms of the spiritual feeling of it and just having Sid being on the team, that is a huge part of it. but when you see Suzuki immediately slide into his, I think it's an obvious statement here,

but they're going to miss him outside of the leadership. Like outside of him being Sidney Crosby. I just, I thought he was really good on that line and having him not be in there for the rest of it. Like I, he's been excellent. I wonder if they have enough without him to beat the states

if they make the final. They have enough. Just, you know, when the margins are so slim, you'd like to have all you got, you know? It's just, it's, he's still dynamic. Right?

He's not... He's going to get 85, 90 points. He's not Connor McDavid, but no one else is. But still Sid can do things that Nick Suzuki can't. No. Head things, smart things. He just makes little plays and he's, you know, you just trust him. He won't as you feel good when he's out there about what's going to happen.

Also in the power play, they've been very good, but obviously power play continues to click at a high rate. Yeah. Hey, how about Colorado's power play being last? By the way, I thought CC's drinks to us today as Canada. he was like, a lot of Colorado Avalanche out there in PowerPlay. By the way, they're last on the Power Play. I was like, oh, Cici, we need one here.

It was weird. But even like the play McKinnon scores on the Power Play, kind of a crappy play. Like, sorry, the McKinin play's good, but he shoots it out of guy, goes through his legs. He's got a lot on it, though. He did. He shot it hard, but it went through legs and hit a leg

and ticked off a post. Can I, I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but I don't know if McKinnon loves to pass. Oh, no, he's going. got a zillion points. I know. But just when you watch him play, like, he really is a puck carrier. Like, he is a puck carrier.

He's a shooter. He's it, but, like, I don't think his number one skill is, like, the passing game. And I wonder if that's part of the power play stuff. I don't know. He's so much better in transition than he is in the half court. But I don't know. I just, I don't think he loves, let's say he's a puck hog. No, just different ways to create points.

He's third in the NHL and assist. He's big, I get your point, yeah. Maybe I'm an idiot. He's so strong in the aspects that you're talking about that you don't necessarily notice it as much. Yeah. Like to go to shots then, he's leading the NHL in shots. Yeah.

With 244. You never see a guy third in assists. Lead the league in shots. He has a puck all the time. On the rush. Yeah, he's carrying it done. I'm thinking he creates a lot of rebounds. I thought for a second, NACIS and, uh,

And Pastor Nack were going to be enough. Those are the scariest random guys to have on the other time because NACIS is maybe the NHL's fastest skater not named McDavid and maybe including McDavid. His cutbacks are off the charts. Yeah. Well, that's because his speed's so fast. He blows guys up and then past his one-timers and his speed.

Those are two dangerous boys that were on the other side. How would you think, I think Drew Dowdy played the fourth most of the, on the ice today, hammered past your now. What have you thinking? What have you thinking of thought of his game so far? I think he's there mostly for his experience and his ability to calm the guys down. He's not hurting them by any standard,

but his best years are behind him. Everything, you know, his value, which he has a ton of it, but everyone says, like, the dressing room is just Marshand and Dowdy not shutting up, right? Like, they keep it light. They keep everyone involved. But it helps. Exactly.

It helps that they're, two champion winners. Yeah, he couldn't come in there as arner and do that or something. Chirp it up. Right. You know, and play cheerleader. Yeah. He, I mean, he took a pretty

regular shift today. He ended up playing 1418, much more than both both Sanheim and Paraco. I just, there were times in his career, though, he could control a game, right? Pace of play. And it's just,

that's not there anymore. Just talking to Darryl Sutter about doubty he said that there would be many games where they'd give him 26 minutes and doubtie would come in be like what's going on i can't get out there like they're like true we can't play you 30 a night you know but that was his early in his career was had that like puppy energy where it's just go go and he had to learn to control that and rein it in he says they got really good once he kind of took a page out of cellios's books and you don't run it everyone and you kind of play on the inside a little bit more he he was able to play 30 a night for him did you see

that i don't know where that clip was from maybe it was with chicklets where he was talking about how hard Sutter coached him. Oh, really? Like he was talking, he said that the one time, what he would love to do was when the other team's best defenseman, he'd be like, God, that guy's best defenseman in the league. Like, he would just make these little comments to him about how, like, much better other guy, how much better other guys were than him and it would piss him off.

And he said that he hated it at the time, but now he looks back on it, he was his best guy. Yeah. Now, I hope we get to a gold medal game between Canada and the U.S. because Kachuk's had some history with Doughty, has he not? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time.

Those guys hate you. That would no doubt get revisited a few times in a final game. There's maybe no one more likely, well, Brad Marshan too, but to run their mouth, well, their teammates, so no more Marshan, but run their mouth and get the better of Matthew Kachuk than Drew Doughty. Drew is, he's ruthless and he's competitive. of. Just as a quick update on this hockey game, this is a slog. These American, like,

the defense corps for the Americans, boys, the real problem. Yeah, Slaving and slaving it up out there. He's just sticks and arms and everything's in lanes. He's a one-man car wash of the... He really is. I would say the Swedes have been in the American end for long stretches of this third period here.

They just can't get it past. Clutch Hellebuck. Sorry for reacting there. They're five and a half minutes left. He's officially in Team Canada territory now late in the game. Boring it on. Needing a big goal here. Willie Nealander got it in them or what?

Well, hopefully. Do you guys want me to do game time? Sure. It's game time presented by Bet365. Visit the Affleitest Odds and see why it's ever ordinary at Bet365. Must be 19 plus. Ontario only. Do you consider betting Chequiet today?

No. No happiness hedge? No, no. I won't do it to the final. Like I said yesterday and boy. got a lot of response to that I can live with one of these results

these are like if they lose today it's horrible it's a referendum but I rest my head on my pillow saying that we didn't lose to America Finland same thing I know I don't we shouldn't even chat during a Canada USA team I'll probably watch together actually oh no we won't say it's 8 a.m. on a Sunday so you're coming our neighborhoods have a shindick we're all going to pile into

someone's place really yeah I love that So for just looking at this Sweden, if you wanted to live bet Sweden right now, they're down one goal. I know this won't play well in the podcast, but if you're listening, down one goal. They are plus 1050 with five minutes left in the game. So that's a decent number. To be honest, I might, at a break here, I might have to hit that one.

You get to break quick. You guys want to do a quick future for the NHL for some of the favorites for the Cup? We're going to talk to the NHL after the break. We absolutely are. I got to talk about something. The Colorado I have Lanch are still the favorite coming out of the break. They are plus 275. Tampa at second at plus 450.

Can I get it on this? Yes. And bet 365, don't listen. Don't make that bet now. Don't bet plus 275 if you think they're going to. That number is available right before the playoffs start. You can find out who's injured, find out whatever. These cup bets, let's just hold, keep your powder drop.

He just cost them a ton of money. Keep your powder. dry. Still make the bet. Just keep the power dry. Now is the time to look for value. Most deadline. Now is the time to look for value and I'm looking down the list here. Dallas stars at plus 1,600. You could do worse than. This is the ones you want.

The ones that haven't traded for a superstar yet who you think they're going to. Those are the team. Edmonton Oilers are still 10 to one. This one's fascinating to me. Oilers, they could... The Panthers are ahead of the Habs, the Sabers, the Red Wings. And they're nine points out of playoffs. The Panthers are plus

$2,300. What do they know? That they're... Give me the Pittsburgh Penguins because they may not have Sid Crosby. What do you mean? Yeah. So they're not going to win the cup. This is to win the cup.

But the numbers... Oh, it's plus 5,000. Plus 5,000. You don't want that. No, you don't want that. No. You think Sid's like hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt. Listen, I, if I'm Kyle Dubus and the Pittsburgh Penguins,

I'm scared to death right now. Imagine Dubus up there today if they lose and Sid's hurt. Right. I was like, yeah, I finally get to do my rebuild. All year long, you put yourself in a position to make some noise, maybe went a round or two. Who's the most likely team to make a big deadline acquisition? Let's finish this off.

Let's relevant to this, though. Okay, that was game time. I said a bet 365 visit the app for the latest odds and see why it's ever ordinary at bet 365 must be 19 plus. I'm Terry only. Please play. Response. Okay, ask your question and we'll get to it after the break.

Most likely team or teams to make big deadline. acquisition. Ooh, all right. We'll get into that. The Jeopardy music now. Plus, speaking of the Edmonton Oilers, we talked about it a few shows ago.

Paul Coffey, back in Edmonton. I got thoughts. I got thoughts. We've got plenty thoughts on that. Stay tuned. Don't go away. More real Kippren-vorn after these words.

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Third game of the day with a late tying goal. Mika Zabanajad from Lucas Raymond. Zabanajad, who's having a horrific season with the New York Rangers. is the hero right now. Pulling off a Nick Suzuki and tying the game late. The pass from Lucas Raymond Cross seam, he must have passed at 83 miles an hour.

It was humming. For Mika to hit that, pretty impressive. Yeah, just so our listeners and watchers are aware, they're about to basically watch it. Yeah, welcome to a live watch party of Sweden, USA, with Americans with 50 seconds of roll. No, we can't do, I don't think we do play by play.

Can't do play by play. Can't do play by play. That wasn't really play-by-play anyway. That was more of a... For the third time today, overtime. We're going to... Oh, over time. For 10 minutes.

Kipper, you very... You have a little witch to you. You're very wizardy. You just kind of nail these things. Like, your feel and, like, you said this is going to overtime. Oh, I saw overtime all the way in the last few minutes here. But it's not just this. In the group chat.

You would have, you would concede that at sometimes he is wizardy. Absolutely not. Really? I feel like he's got a good feel. Like he's called stuff in the past, maybe not. You guys bailed on Sweden when we went to the break. Were you guys just here? I said I would bet on them because I said they're going to tie it up too.

You guys said it was over. Absolutely. I said we're going in overtime. I've watched enough Toronto Maple Leafs this season to know that William Nealander is scoring the overtime winner. Matthews is a dog's breakfast in OT. William's going to score the overtime winner. And he's going to score the overtime winner.

And he's going to. sniff it out and he's just going to wait for that perfect opportunity to go in on a breakway. 88 v.34 and OT is not a fair fight. Okay, before we just sit here and watch the game and not say a word, let's talk a little Edmonton Oilers. There was a lot of chatter around Paul coffee and making a coaching change or at least changing a few things up. Paul Coffey is on his way back to coach on the Edminton Oiler bench.

It's funny how long people have known this for. Like Stauffer had this a long time ago. You mentioned it a long time ago. It's weird that it's just happening. This to me feels like someone told Noblock he needs coffee on the bench. I don't think Noblock made his call. It's one thing to tell a knoblock, but it's another thing to tell Paul Coffey that too, right? Because you got to tell him,

you need to come back. Isn't that, aren't Kate's in him, boys? Oh, of course. Yeah. To me, that's Kate being like, are D's not as good? They were good when you were there. Go there again.

You have often alluded to the fact that 97 has a ton of sway there and that a lot of stuff, they, they, what do you think his input on that way? Yeah, get Paul Coffey back. Really? Oh, and sprinkle Leon Drysidal telling the world that the coaches have to be better

before he left for Italy. That was really fascinating. And then they turn around and bring... A little crop dust, part and shot. Yeah. I don't see a world where Noblocs like long for this job. Really?

Think about it. Okay. Right? Your player calls you out. Yeah. And then maybe you're told that you got to go get Paul coffee back on your bench. You're definitely getting...

You got to turn this thing into a Stanley Cup winning season here or I don't see a world where knob blocks back. No, if you, if you, even you go to the, go to the cup final, lose three in a row, they're going,

you can't get us over the hump. Sorry. What would coffee, like I've never been on a high level bench? What does coffee bring that they've been lacking? Is it just the experience? Is it just having Paul coffee and name there? What is it?

All of the above. Yeah. I think, I think there isn't one particular thing that you can nail. I think it's everything from a presence, maybe a more direct approach to how you talk to the players and what's at stake and what's on the line and what your expectations are.

What you value as important. Three on three overtime underway. How you get more out of your lineup than just throwing three or four guys out there for 26, 28 minutes? Yeah, the other piece of that, you know, I'm not sure. I think they had Mark Stewart running the D,

the side of things for them on the back end. Interesting to see how that plays, you know, a guy coming in saying, hey, not working with you. We're not going to fire you. We're just going to let this guy do your job now.

You know, that's a weird dynamic in the coaches room. Isn't that? Of course, you'd say all the right things. I think it's really, really strange. Like this whole thing,

I don't ever recall ever seeing or hearing anything like this where a guy just leaves and then a lot of question marks, and then you go back and get the guy that left. I know that that doesn't happen by the coach. There's no way a coach is making, eating humble pie and saying, sorry about getting rid of you.

Do you think he could be the head coach? It wouldn't put anything past me at this point. And it doesn't appear like that that's the case, because if it is the case, Sammy, yep, rip the Band-Aid off. Let's do it right now. Right away. And oh, by the way, when was the problem?

press release. A third period of a tie overtime game. Anybody find that a little strange? I thought it was pretty funny. I mean, I just checked my phone. I looked at the email. I'm like, coffee back on the bench. Third period tie game.

Surely these guys won't talk about it for 20 straight minutes on their national hour. Not in the midst of the Olympics. Oh. Like really, really strange. Yeah. You had off days to do this. You got an off day tomorrow? Yeah.

They're back. at the rink at the rink now. Yeah, no, that is, it is weird. Right. So he's back involved. We'll see what that means for the Edmonton Oilers. Before we went to break, I led with the question, who do you think, what team is most likely

to be looking to make a big swing when we get back at it? Yeah, I have my my finger on Dallas stars. Yeah. Like, just can't quite get over the hump. This year, if you feel like the oil, are a little more vulnerable.

I just, I think money's an issue, the cap's an issue, and what they can do, and they don't have a lot of assets. They're like the Leafs. They're just really hard pressed to find a way to bring in an impact guy. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't understand how it's going to happen,

but they, more than the Leafs are in a spot where it's like you can justify the, we're spending everything here. Like, we're clearing out the cupboards to make this happen. And they're ranting in there. Is Segan, do we know? He's done. Yeah, we assume he's done.

So they can spend that money? So I'm just, I'm looking at the NHL standings the first time in a while. There, I think, I guess Minnesota could potentially catch Colorado. They've, they've closed the gap to five points. Have they really? Yeah. It's, well, but they've played three more games in Colorado. So it's 83 points for Colorado, 78 points for Minnesota.

If you're Dallas, you can kind of build your team. You know who you're going to play. Yes. Also, three minutes at overtime, no 34 yet for the Americans, I don't think. Really? I haven't seen him. Yeah, we're looking at the standings here. You know, it's funny talking to some people who, you know, the way the NHL used to be,

it was like you knew who you were getting. And so you had to get out of your division first. And you're right. There's a couple of teams who can make that change. And typically, you're still looking for the same guys. These are going to be physical series. You're all looking for big bodies. D, all that sort of stuff.

So Dallas would be an interesting one, one to watch for. What about the oilers, Kipp? We're talking about the bench. Is Vegas done? Vegas feels like they, they're not fooling around. They're never done. You know what's hurt them too?

Is this William Carlson, who's been there from day one? It's over? Possibly gone for the season. Oh, with injury? Yeah, injured. There's Matthews out there. Yeah. So I don't know in terms of their, their cab space, would they want to open it up a little bit for somebody else?

But they're the one team that always is looking, no matter what their scenario is. Yeah. Those guys aren't afraid. No, they're not afraid. So the thing, you know what it stood out to me is right before the break, Seattle was rumored to have made the big pitch for Panarin, like $14, $15 million contract per year just to get him to come. to wave for Seattle, it feels like they're getting desperate to do something. I think what's happening now is there's certain markets like I think Seattle would be in this where it's just going to be hard for them. America wins it.

Quinn Hughes. Quinn Hughes ends in overtime. Crap! Keeps the dream alive. USA and Canada today. Day. needing overtime to advance. Yeah.

That wasn't even like a spectacular. He just shot it from distance and Marky missed it. You can kind of, as soon as he curled into the middle there. That's a good spot to let a guy show. Three on three. I'm just watching him out of the corner of my eyes, he's twisting and turning. Nobody could catch him.

Nobody could get the puck off of him. No. It is funny how in three on three, like you're like, yeah, we'll let him have one from there because that's, like, not that dangerous compared to every other look, but that's just a ripper.

Just to go back on Seattle a little bit with Panarin, some teams, some markets have already established. We're not a destination place for a lot of guys. We have to be ultra aggressive. And that's why they offered three and a half more million dollars. I want to see some teams admit to that and do that. Like in Canada, I think you're going to, you might see some team construction. I don't think you want to admit to it.

I think you have to or you're never going to get good guys. You can't admit to it, like, internally, but you can't publicly tell your fan base that nobody wants to come and play for us. But you're publicly telling your fan base that when you offer a guy $15 million to play for you who goes somewhere else for 11. Yeah, maybe he doesn't like Starbucks coffee. Doesn't like the rain? Yeah.

But I do think that at some point when you're in these sort of conversations for superstars, you got to go, I know we're overpaying, but we just have to get superstars. I'm going to at the Minnesota Wild for all those years. Girl Caprizo says, I'll play for you, but it's. going to take like 17 and they're like okay yeah and they're okay yeah all right and that's what it is then now they've got Quinn hughes who just scored the game winning goal there they're they're gonna have to they're gonna have to go ultra aggressive now too you just you're all in if you're bill garin and tremendous amount of uh that's by the way Hughes versus landa scog a playoff matchup in the

weight cuts back on uh post no uh trochuk they got a lot of interest in vincent and in trocheck? You know, I was going to say that it seems like everyone likes Trocheque when they coach him, but it's still the same guy, right? Mike Sullivan is still there. His Trochecks getting out there in overtime. He's out there. They were using him. Dahlene, they just showed Dahlene, that guy cares.

Billy Garrett. Holy smokes. Oh, it's the missed high 10 hugs. That's the good stuff. Yeah, that feels good up there, right, boys? Oh, both management, Canada and the U.S. Doge in a lot. Dodging a bullet.

Watching Doug Armstrong, watching Doug Armstrong saying, yeah, my ability to pick my next job is still alive. And what's that next job, Kippertrano? Buddy, I'm not speculating that, Sammy. Come on. I never said you were. I was just asking.

Willie Nealander would be at practice in a couple days. We were to say Willie's probably spent $100,000 on fashion in Italy since he's been there. Looking forward to seeing his outfits post alerts. Kipper thought the $65,000 one was the phantom. Don't you worry. He's got a scarf worth that, pal. Look up.

Can I do my impression of customs? Mr. Nealander, anything to declare? He's like, ah, yeah. No. How much time you got? Yeah, I'm awesome. I can't believe they're doing three on three. Travesty.

It is a travesty. It's like this is something that, They, it was four on four in Vancouver, I think, for the, for the, the OT, right? I can't remember. No, it was Sid, Ginnla, Niedemeyer, and Dowdy on the ice. There's four. And. Four to me is okay.

It's hot. I can live with four. Yeah. Like Quinn, they're just weaving around. Three on while they set up like a basketball defense on the inside. We mentioned this in our first hour, but if it. goes to the final here, and we're on track,

the collision course is still on, of Canada versus USA. They always play, the score of that game is going to be 3-2 or 2-1, and it's probably going to go to overtime. Like, we're really going to have, is there a higher level

in the sports history than these two teams potentially playing in a gold medal game overtime? But how about this? You go, McDavid. Listen, we're... Listen, McDavid, McKinnon, McCarr,

Eichael Matthews, Quinn Hughes. I mean, come on. Throw the puck out there. Yeah, it's... I want to see it. It would be awesome for Tuesday night in January. Invent a new game, shorten the rink, invite 12 guys. Three and three hockey exists as a league.

Three on ice or something like that, isn't it? But then promote that. I just can't imagine. There should be a three-on-three Olympic event. I'm here for that. I actually think that's a great point. Yeah, that would be good. Coach it up.

I'm not watching it. It's better than... You guys can watch it. You wouldn't watch three on three hockey who was in the Olympics. What is the speed skating event where they just touch each other's butt? Oh, you mean team pursuit where our Canadian women won gold? Congratulations to us, but what is that? Is it the last person to cross?

That's our, there's some fascinating events, is my point. Don't look at me like I'm the Olympic expert. I have no idea. I just know that they won gold. We now go live to, what's his name, Devin Haru? Is that our Canadian? We got athletes pretending they just finished a hockey game. for goodness sakes.

That's how much they... Bob sled boys. Our new favorites. I mean, like, you might want to just, you know, there's some bob sledding fans out there. I'm not sure they're too happy to hear about hockey. Do you think it... Is there any world where it dampens it?

If Canada or USA wins three-on-three overtime in a gold medal game? Who wins? Listen, it's already dampened it for me. We're going to be dampening it. It's... I hate it. I hate it now in the NHL. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. They're having conversations about to take away the regrouping, the constant regrouping. Yeah. I wasn't on board at all with any sort of over and back or whatever, but I can be talked into something. If I feel like another team's got a major advantage on three on three, I would coach my side once they get the puck.

Never give it up. to just rag it for 10 minutes. We like our odds in the shootout better. Right? And get to a shootout with my goalie. Just circles in the defensive? Circle. Circle for 10 minutes.

I don't care. I don't care. If I feel like I can't compete trading chances, I would, I'd kill the clock. Oh my God. And I tell you what, if a team did that, it would end three on three like that. Yeah. Do you remember there was a game? I want to say it was Philadelphia, Tampa Bay.

They would throw stuff on the ice. Yeah. They would throw stuff on the ice. It was just declared he would absolutely ruin the spirit of the sport to make a point. No, I'd ruin the spirit of three on three. It was definitely Philadelphia and Tampa where I forget who it was. It was playing no four check at all. They were playing as like a zero three two.

And whoever it was had the puck behind the net and stood there for, what was it, two minutes? Yeah, they just would not move it out. You know, if they don't want to play, we don't want to play. crowd you're supposed to blow that down the refs did eventually blow it down i think it's actually a penalty i think delay yeah like you're there's some pressure to attempt to play hockey i guess oh i can't believe that that's actually in the rule book that you can get a penalty for mark stone should have got a penalty for that cross-ice pass he was standing still oh my god i mean he can look he is the ultimate hot and cool guy. Like some nights, he looks

unbelievable. And other nights, he looks like a beer leaguer out there. He's a very interesting guy. It's funny how often you'll hear just like the play by play people or whatever, just like open, be like, yep, Marks don't slow. It's like, you know, just compared to the rest of the league, I guess he is. But

yeah, man, he knows what he's doing out there. Trust him as much as anyone. You know, got a text from somebody in Italy and said, it's not looking good for Sid. But that's, listen, that's not me saying that he's out or I'm reporting anything. I'm just

Doug McLean says. I'm telling you what I'm hearing. Well, that's going to be something the Canadians are going to have to deal with obviously no shortage of talent. No one's Sidney Crosby, but watching that American side there Canada's better.

I'm sure there's a few I guess we can talk about it here too, but I'm sure there's a few NBC execs watching Sabinajad Paiot there and like have this huge buildup where they built up this whole thing being like we want Canadian tears and it's like meanwhile they get Swedish puddles like they're passing the course to disaster like that Swedish team though we were saying when they were

down one part of the reason we thought they would score I mean it's Neelander Dahlene Kempay Brat Borsberg like they are loaded Carlson Carl Carl eric carlson had the puck a bunch they had three on three I don't know if that's uh any advantage to the U.S so good for Quinn Hughes, just shooting it past Markstrom, who doesn't make you feel awesome. I actually like the idea of the three-on-three Olympic Games. Olympic event, totally. I mean, you would coach it totally differently, right?

It's more of a possession-based. Because there's three-on-three leagues around, like around. Isn't it called three-on-three ice or something? Yeah. Oh, you don't think, like, the NHL would continue playing and Edmonton would just loan Connor McDadee for this? I don't think... With Bushard and Tri-Sidal?

You could actually do a three-and-three NHL players? I don't think it's... I don't think it's NHLers. I think the three on three is like, you can even sound the best junior players. I'm not, I'm not convinced for the next 20 years we're going to be playing international hockey

every other year and shutting the league down. I think that gets revisited. I know you do. And I know you, you're very much in the NHLPA. I just, no, it's not a, no, the PA's fine with it, right? Yeah, they get to, they're fine with it.

I just, I just think that you shut down, the NHL for this long. It may take a while to kind of spark it up a bit here. Every other year you're going to shut down for three weeks. I mean, I still think long term. The World Cup is their event. Yeah, they'll do it again in two years and do the World Cup.

How many teams would be at the World Cup? I'll tell you another thing that I'm hearing is that for the World Cup, the NHLPA and the NHL is taking a lot of heat to get Russia back in. Oh, is that right? Yeah, the players, the Russian players, want back in. Well, I'm sure they do. But didn't Betman make some statement that we're just following the international community? And right now, Russia currently wage a war on Ukraine.

It's not the WIHF's event. No, it's not. But Gary has said that they had been following. That's why they weren't at the four nations. A lot of Russian players feel like, you know, why is that, Gary? It's your event. It's the PA's hearing from their Russian players. we want back in in our event.

We're good enough to play in the NHL, but we're not good enough to play in your event. Yeah, no, I think the only case you have is either we shouldn't be here or, well, I guess you can say it has nothing to do with the flag there. It's like the member of Russian athletes competed under no flag. Yeah, the Olympic athletes from Russia. You know, could the World Cup do that? Can't have the Russian flag.

Can't, you know, whatever. I have no idea what the answer is, but you've still got a big portion of your league. and the Players Association has Russian players. There's a reason they're not at the Olympic Games. And, you know, personally, I think that they should stand by that standard. And it's a pretty good one. So we'll see if anything changes.

So we'll see what happens. The semifinals boys, now set. We have times for the games. Let's hear it. So Friday, February 20th, this is from Frank Sarvelli. So if he's wrong, we're 1040. Yeah. Boy, the Americans are going to be sour.

Oh, we've got to play late again. Do they in a 3 o'clock game? They're playing the 3-10 game. Buddy, this is perfect. We get to talk Canada again, watch Americans in the show. Yeah, we're doing the exact same thing on Friday. So we'll be back to an hour tomorrow, 5 to 6, and then on Friday we'll be back to 2.

I think I'm going to come in and watch the game with you at 1040, and I'm just going to not even watch the game. I'm going to film you. No, I don't do that. Yes. No, I think people on live stream. YouTube would be really interested. Only if it's close or they're trailing.

There's nothing worse. Just as an aside, maybe I should do this. I hate what people set up their cameras to film them watch something. It's like you're acting totally differently than you would if you're just like watching it without the camera. I also. But that's our whole world now. I know.

Everybody is now like a skit guy. Everybody thinks they're the host of Saturday Night Live. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for something. people that I see on on my phone pretending they're actors uh well I act like I belong here you're leading my charge Sammy of just bad acting yeah I'll co-sign that kipper yeah all right so no hockey tomorrow at all zero hockey tomorrow oh man another night off another night off

I don't know what I'm about there in the ceiling yes I just had that we're back five to six tomorrow. I'm still thinking you're acting. That's why I'm not paying attention. No, 5 to 6 p.m. Eastern tomorrow. And then that'll be our last hour show. We're back on Friday, 4 to 6th. And the next week, we start back with our regular schedule. 4 to 6 p.m. Eastern when we get to talk about whatever happens in the gold medal game on Monday. And then Leif's practice. Coming right up after that. And then I think the least play Wednesday against. Oh, less than a week. Back up NHL hockey. Let's go. I am looking forward to the return. Oh, yeah, I can't wait.

Our thanks to Luke Fox. Must the leaves be buyers on Jeff Skinner. NHL writer for Sportsnet.com, and Patrick Marlow, two-time Stanley Cup champion. 1779 games, the most games play. How long does it take you to heal after 1,700 games? Do it again. No?

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