Real Kyper & Bourne - Vally's View: Rangers' Goaltending Future + Hellebuyck Landing Spots

Episode Date: October 20, 2026

CEO of Clear Sight Analytics and former NHL goaltender Steve Valliquette (4:00) joins Nick Kypreos and Justin Bourne to chat about Calgary Flames' goaltender Devin Cooley revealing his unique way to stay focus, if it's the right idea to give away personal strategies, options in net for the New York Rangers in the trade market, Connor Hellebuyck potential landing spot in Utah, Sergei Bobrovsky's start with the Maple Leafs, and the early numbers on how goals are getting past netminders at the start of the season. Then on Grill Marks, Vally asks the panel which goaltenders are playing in the most difficult and easiest environments and who's given up the most goals above their glove. To wrap up, Nick, Justin and Sam McKee discuss Brady Tkachuk's comments about donating thrown jerseys on the ice when he returns to Ottawa and the attendance down for Senators games. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

All right, let's kick it up. The National Hour on the Real Kipper and Born show. This hour of Real Kipper and Born brought to by Bet365. Nick Kippreel, is Justin Boren. Sammy McKee, live on Sportsnet, 590 the fans, streaming always on Sportsnet Plus. Catch us on Spotify, Apple, podcast, and YouTube, where we always appreciate a thumbs up.

In a few minutes, we'll welcome in Steve Aliquette. Before we do that, the Pittsburgh Penguin, Sammy, issued a statement taking off. They played last night in Salt Lake City. The plane left this morning only to return back to Utah

for a medical episode. involving Ben Kindle. involving their 19-year-old Yeah, that's scary. You know, young star. Yeah. Ben. Do we know anything at all? No.

No. The only the end of the update is that he was taken to University of Utah Hospital for further evaluation. Ben is conscious, alert, and in stable condition. The health and safety of our players, as well as the privacy for their families, are our top priority. The team will provide further updates when appropriate.

Okay, our thoughts are with Ben, and hopefully everything turns out okay. I wore my Toronto Blue J shirt today, my hoodie, to commemorate their reign ending as AL champions, and to commemorate a year ago today, fellas, George Springer, the Springerdinger at the Rogers Center. God, that feels like a long time ago. Sam has called that the best moment of his life

and he's sincere when he says that. Yeah, best moment. But listen, I told Ali when it happened, I was the best moment in my life. And she's like, I agree. It's a different level of euphoria. The wedding is a long drawn day. There was a Friday party.

There was a Saturday party. There was a Sunday brunch. Just this year. Yeah. You got to be looking forward to next year because, you know, big news. Glad he got glath. He can see now. Well, he got.

He has pink hair now, too. Maybe he can't see. Yeah. He's going to fix his eyes. Well, the question I have for you, during the 2025 playoff run, where his eyes not working? Working pretty good. Did they not?

Was it not? He's hitting into the moon every other time he was up. I hope he comes up to bat with the biggest glass. France Mullinac. Rex backs? What was the guy that played? Big goggles. Horace Graham.

Horace Grant. Corrid. Corrid. Grim Abdul. Goggles. Oh, I forgot to change Jersey. Oh, that's okay. Now we're leaving it.

Yeah, we'll leave it. We'll leave it. We're going to have Valley on in a few minutes. We're getting into this Calgary goaltending with Cooley. We have it. Do we have it? Yeah. Can we have a quick listen before we have Valley?

Let's play it before we get to. Let's just play it a little bit because it's hysterical. But 34 saves in your night, just how you felt and what you saw as you looked out from your cruise. Yes, I felt nothing. The problem with me is that I have a lot of fun playing, but when I start having too much fun, it makes me into from an unconscious goalie to a conscious goalie, and my conscious brain is really bad at playing goalie. So I have to let my unconscious brain do the work because it's,

reacts a lot quicker. When I'm having too much fun and I'm smiling and I'm talking to everybody and I'm hanging out, what happens is that shifts me into more conscious brain goalie. And then I can't react in time and then I'm slow. I'm behind the play. And then I give up seven goals, you know, but today it was just unconscious. Like don't think about anything. You know, if you ask me how I may say my big, I have no idea. Just my unconscious brain does it. And that's what you work and practice for you. There's a 3 a.m. at the after party type of conversation. I would say that applies to everyone's golf games as well. Let's welcome in Steve Aliquette for our regular scheduled Tuesday.

On that note, buddy, goalies just got as weird as they ever have been over the course of our history with Cooley in that moment. And the fans, the fans, they always knew goalies were weird because we had to tell them that, right? They had no way of really knowing how weird goleys are. Now they just go directly to the fans and they tell them how weird they are. Well, he did let the cat out of the bag. Look, you know, he's funny because he speaks his mind. He's a great interview because he speaks his mind. Most of us were a little too nervous to let everybody know what we were thinking.

We talk about it after we retire, but during the time that we're playing, managing the pressure, guys, I could tell you that me personally, I started working with a sports psychologist when I was 27, and the only thing I looked back on my career and have regret for is not starting sooner. What he's talking about with the unconscious mind, I actually used to use the term subconscious mind, and then my sports psychologist corrected me and said,

your mind doesn't sub to anything, meaning don't think that you're going to be able to go into two places. One of the first examples, Borny, that I used with her, was that I had an experience where in between periods, I had this fleeting thought of the opponent winning the face off, D-to-D-D-up, two-on-one pass-across goal. On me. Yeah. I had this fleeting thought at the intermission. Healthy.

The puck drops the next period, and that happened. Yes. So I explained that to her. I said, listen, Giselle, this is what happened. And that's the cool thing about having a sports psychologist. You just lay it on the table. I'm not being judged. I don't care.

I'd never say it to my coach. So I said that to her, and she said, you know what, if your unconscious mind can see something and see it in a negative light, you can do the same thing in a positive way. And I said, okay. And she said, well, for instance, put something negative in your head. And then she said, look up to the ceiling. And the thought escaped me.

And I started almost have like a grin. and she said, you can't hold a negative thought when you look up. So think about any time you have a negative thought during the day. For us, as goalies, it's an easy one. It's a goal against. Well, if you ever watched my skate after being scored on, I always looked up towards the really? Always.

I wanted to get it out of there. After I'd take a skate to the corner, look up, come back to my net, shrink my net in my mind's eye. I would just look at my crossbar at the elbow and see it getting smaller. Making the space look smaller made me feel bigger. Take another skate to the corner, look up, clear my head, see myself making the save next puck. And that's the only way through it because we're all trying to maintain present mind. And you can't be distracted by thinking about anything except for what you're doing out there.

And that's focusing on the puck. So for Cooley, I like what he said about. serotonin and the adrenaline that you get. Like all of that's true. And when you experience it a couple of times, you're trying to say, okay, how do I do that again? Does it just take a save to trigger it or can I make it happen? And that's the challenge for everybody.

And I think that he's just been unique about trying to explain it and articulate in a way that most of us can. Is there a chance, though, like you don't want to give too much. much information out. Like you're, you're, you're, you're an analytical guy.

You're telling us percentages on cross-ice passes and high danger chances. Now you're going to have to go back and you're going to have to give us the percentages of conscious games for goalies now. Right?

Like, hey, sorry, Cool's, but you're having too much fun and you're too conscious out there and you stunk. You know, no, bad night,

too conscious. I think it's, I think it's always a conversation around routine, which it's not dangerous. It's when you get superstitious. It can be dangerous because if it's superstition, if that doesn't happen for you on that game day preparation, you can almost self-sabotage or talk yourself into there being a bad night just because you need this to happen.

So that's always dangerous. I could tell you guys when I was, I guess 19, I got traded from the Sudbury Wolves to the Erie Otters. We went on a 20-game winning streak. And I was able to shed all of the... my superstitions and that was like a healthy purge. That's not easy to do unless you really have the courage to do it because they could strangle hold you. And I think that we've seen certain cases, Benson Knight with OCD or Allmark last year leaving and there's been a lot of mental

health from the NHL over the last few years that we could talk about. And it's just it kind of eats away at you. And I think the guys, I could tell you it's a fight or flight league, right? Oftentimes when you hear players talking about, you know, is that a distraction in the room or not? The hellabuck situation, for instance, because that's a hot topic right now. Most of the time it's not because you're just so focused on staying in the league yourself, right? Like, I remember my first game at Madison Square Garden, guys, I had dreams and I feel like I, in a way, visualized myself to manifest my trade to the New York Rangers, as crazy as that sounds. I always thought I was going to end up as a ranger.

I was playing for the Oilers after I was with the Islanders. My wife is from Connecticut. We're married. We're separated from, you know, Edmonton to New York. She's on her way to the airport. All I want to do is play for the Rangers. I end up getting traded to the Rangers. I get traded to the Rangers.

I tell her to not get on the flight. I'm coming. Fast forward. I'm in my first game playing for the Rangers at Madison Square Garden. And this is what I've always wanted. I let in the worst goal you could ever imagine on the very first shot of the game from the corner from Brad Boys. He's shooting it long side. It goes off my elbow and in the net.

I let in a second goal in that first period. And I feel it. It's coming, right? Like the pressure. And I get out of that period with a couple of saves. When I got to the bathroom, took off my gear, Tom Rennie could have pulled me right there. That would have been the last game I ever played in the NHL. It was really my final chance.

I remember getting some water, splashing on my face, looking at the mirror and just saying, you're not effing going down like this because it meant that much to me. But it's a fight or flight. I could have easily said, you know, my groin hurts because I've seen that with guys. And I think that's the way it works.

Guys, we went into overtime in that game. It's 2-2. Kipper, you're a lefty-righty guy. Do you know what handedness Glenn Metropolitan was? Yeah, right. You're right. He's right. He's right. Okay, so guys, we go into the shootout.

This is the funny part of the story. Okay, we go on the shootouts too, too. And the final shooter is Glenn Metropolitan. I need to make a save to win this game and really get out of a hole that I dug myself into. He's the final shooter. I had been to training camp when he was at the Richmond Hill riot. He wouldn't remember me. He's definitely maybe four years my senior.

He might have been like a 20-year-old when I was a 60. something like that. And he lit me up high glove, that entire traded cab, every scrimmage. He was a really good player. So I know he's going high glove, or at least I feel like I'm going to try and influence it. So I drop my glove below my knee.

If he shoots anywhere else, it's going in. He goes high glove, righty high glove, and I fired off my glove, and I think it hits the iconic ceiling at Madison Square Garden. Yeah. And we win the game. But I oftentimes look back on my own stuff because I know how hard it was to get through the wall.

And guys, I had an average career as far as all my call-ups and all that. I was four years in the NHL total. But it was hard every day, and it's hard every day on these guys. And for Cooley to add some levity to it, I think it's like, you know, game on. We love it. One more for me on Cooley, and then we can move on here. Okay, I know you really like them. but is there a chance he could end up like, I don't know, saking himself out or ending up being a headcase?

There's only one that I remember really eating themselves alive and that story came out later. And it was Anders Hedberg, the moose. Yes. And I remember him being really hard on himself, like really hard on himself. So that's a different angle. I feel like Jason and Barbara, incidentally, one of my greatest teammates of all time, he is the goalie coach there.

And I've talked to him about this. And he said, Valley, honestly, this guy's approach is so unique. And it's so genuine that he's so much fun to coach. He has a different perspective than everybody. But in a way, it confirms a lot of what we knew as players, but weren't really openly talking about. You know, I love this from Cooley,

because I think a lot of guys have these same ideas, thoughts, process, whatever. Certainly guys who think, I think Cooley was a super smart guy is my understanding all the way through university and all that. And yeah, there is the possibility that you're someone who is an overthinker. But you'd have fun with this guy off the ice. Yeah.

Like, he's great. But like, Valley, I played with these guys, and I'm sure you did too, who their best attribute is an athlete is that they're dumb as rocks. Like, that's not Cooley. But some guy, like Dustin Johnson on the PGA tour is just like he just hits the next shot he just I don't know I hit it out of bounds I hit the next one of two feet like there's no processor that can be a big advantage in sports that

and making 200 million from live and then disappearing that takes some of the stress off that helps that helps too maybe not so dumb yeah I look I go back and forth on that one I know myself I wanted to learn more Borny like I read the inner game of tennis I read the power of positive thinking Norman Vincent Peel. I really, I guess I could test. You read the secret. I read the secret. I know you did. I did. Like I would visualize these things. I had vision boards. I was looking for any advantage. Look, I have a 24 inch vertical. I wasn't doing it just athletically. I knew I had to find a way and never dunked a basketball. You know, like, I'm six six. It's embarrassing. But like, I look at things that way. I'm like,

I'm not getting there on athletics alone. Like, I had to always find a role. Find a role. Even, look, I just said, La Barber. La Barber when I played with him, I'm 27. I think Barb's is like 25. He won the MVP of the American Hockey League the year before. Best goaltender. I was his backup. But I found a way for them to make them play me.

And then I was such a good backup in the American League that they gave me a shot at doing it with Henrik. That's the truth. But I, just like Kippers talked about, like find a role. And if you can find a role, you can play in the league. league. But if I was adverse to that and I had too much ego and I only wanted to be a starter, I wouldn't have got a shot. I wouldn't have spent the rest of my career in Russia. Right. You're watching and listening to Steve Aliquette, New York Rangers, MSG analyst,

CEO of ClearSite Analytics. So speaking of those Rangers, how are they doing it without Chesterkin? And where is the name Hellebuck or Stolars or any other name that you can come up? with linked to this team. So it's interesting because Corpus Sallo's out, which is why Garand has played six games in a row. And I do have something in my head. And I've heard you talk about it, Borny, and I agree with you. It's one of those where you're playing in the American League.

Somebody gets called up in the East Coast League. In the first 10 games, they're one of the best players on the ice, but they never make it to game 12. For some reason, there's always a crash. Yeah, yeah. Right? Always. Adrenaline runs out.

It runs out. And so I'm waiting a little bit on that one because he's at that number right now. My number for a goalie Borny is seven. Okay. Seven starts in a row. You start to see some cracks in the foundation. Now he's at six. He's played 10 career NHL games.

He's a 936 safe percentage. In a league right now, I think it's 892 this morning, league-wide, safe percentage, average. So he's performing at an extremely high level. Team defense for the Rangers, best I've seen in three years. It's not even close. So they're defending really well. They're not giving up the high dangers. They're not giving up the time and space chances.

Garand is playing at a high level. He wouldn't be playing for a few reasons. He could have been picked up on waivers, which he cleared. He could have been backing up maybe Corpusallo and Corpusallo got hot. But Corpusallo, he hasn't even started skating yet. So he's a couple weeks away. So I'm hearing Vomalka's name a lot

being linked to the Rangers. And Halebuck, by way of Vamalka coming to New York, would be going to Utah. That's the one I'm hearing more than UPL coming to New York. Like, it has to be a fit for three teams. That's what's going to make this Hellebuck move

very unique. And I can see the Vemelma one. Like Vamalka, really good goalie, if the only team last year that made the playoffs without getting 25 points from their backup was Utah. Vermalca did it on his own. He's a game eater and he can play. Now, in the future, if it was Vemalka Shisterkin,

at a lot of money, I guess around 15 million total. I don't know if that's something that works, but I keep going back to the fact that once upon a time we did see Pashik in the same net as Kujo when they were both in Detroit. And teams find a way to figure it out. But Garand himself, he's been playing terrific. He's been covered, but he is making up for it.

Last night before the game, I like to look at two things with young goalies, how they're playing the east to west chances, because it takes reading the play, it takes positional smartness, and then it takes athletic ability to move. And going into last night's game, he had faced 17 passes across the ice for one-timers, only given up three goals in two years. Wow. And he's a perfect 11 for 11 on breakaways.

So the opportunities where he's counted on, and that's a momentum swinger, he's been able to step up. Belly, Bobrovsky just started three times and five nights, had his best effort of the year last night. I thought, what have you made of his early start as a member of the Leafs?

A little bit on off. I think that his overall quality, quality performance percentage. It's a good way for coaches to say, is our goalie consistently giving us a chance to win? It's only at 53%. So 53% of his games, he's given the Leafs a chance to win. His game last night, it was only for high danger against.

San Jose didn't have much. There wasn't a big output night for San Jose. You got a few text messages here and there from Sammy McKee, kind of feeling me out on Bobrovsky. The only thing on Bobbock. I would never. Okay, I want to get this one in there because I think it's important for you guys to watch. All right.

When I played with Henrik, I would hear this all the time. Why didn't he have that one? And oftentimes the why didn't he have that one was because he was physically there. He played deeper and on an east to west pass, he'd get across on his edges for a split second. He might get beat armhole or five hole, but everybody else would have been stretching out anyway and would be forgiven. like didn't have a chance. And I thought that always worked against Henrik. Now conversely, when Bob gets scored on, I always see this one.

Huck goes in and the head is like, so I always wonder on the extra acting if he gets more of a pass than everybody else. He's really good at getting everybody to believe he had more test. Disguising, disguising. He's very good at disguising. He's very good. He's a magician. Goals almost just come right off the board. So I think that's something to have fun with and watch.

But I think he's one of those guys, especially through screens and net front. Everything's going to be like, you know, I didn't see it. Does everybody know? And the head's going to move six, seven times. So the Leafs play against New York on Thursday. They play tonight in Columbus. Brovowski stays home. They call up AA out of the minors.

Stolars gets the start. Do you like that? I mean, or is this just a strictly third? 37 an older move or is there something to this in the future with all teams with a third goalie involved? Of course in our day, Valley, it's like you got two goalies. They stay together. End a story.

Yeah. Well, I could tell you, I remember being on the flight and Chris Drury and I used to sit next to one another. And I had the calendar out, the one they used to give us the magnetic one, magnetic one for the refrigerator and I'm like looking at the days it's like Drew we haven't had a day off in 42 days like that was what it was like yeah and I remember that specific number 42 days no break we would practice every day for an hour I don't know whatever's happening now obviously we we can laugh it up and all that but the bottom line is the league for goalies is harder to play in than ever before that's a fact

I don't even want to dispute it it's like 42% more east to west when the last time I did that study was from the 17-18 season to the 22-23 season, and it was up 42%. That's the segment of time where the league changed for the goalie. And when it becomes more east to west, everything is more engaged longer because there's always a possibility of deception off-pass.

And the second part is the density of the screen. Never seen it as bad as it is right now. We can get to that in a minute. But the net front goals are up. The safe percentage is down for net front. Some guys are really getting hurt by it. But with Bobrovsky and what I see coming, a lot of teams chose not to go after veterans this year.

They went after younger guys. Michael D.P.H.R.O. Clay Stevenson. I mean, Garan's gotten his opportunity, but it's also been because of circumstance. But there's certainly a few nets in the NHL that in the past would have been occupied by the guy that came to camp, a little bit older, more experienced, PTO, wait and see. So that part's different.

But I do think that the future of what we're getting into now, it's going to be three guys being used at all times, and it's going to be cycling through the goalies, whoever's hot, gets the net, and then you just trade off. And I think that the magic number is really close to the one I said earlier, which is like seven games. Even if you're running hot, seven games. The analytics would say game eight, nine,

there's likely a bad crash coming. So, Valley, I know you're very familiar with this one stat, And it's just the downward trend of save percentage. So if you go back 10 years, the same percentage was 915, and then it's 913, 912, 910, 910, 908, 907, 904, 903, 900, 896. This year it's 892. How low can we go? What is happening here?

Scary. Yeah, it is scary. So I'll start with the execution of the shot. Right now, the high glove is going in at an alarmingly high rate. The goalies are only stopping 80% of the shot. that are over their glove. And that's really low for them. So that's number one.

And I think there is a European influence there. The European goalies typically have a lower safe percentage over the glove than the North American goalies over the years. The other thing is net front. It's never been easier to be there. And teams are realizing that the hard slap shots don't get deflected. And I mean, when I say don't, like it's a fraction when you look at the numbers

of deflections coming off of slap shots versus the sifter. And the sifter allows you to be there because it doesn't hurt you. And defensemen know how to cross the midline at the blue line better than ever before. Every game I'm watching,

there's a lot more crosses up top. And here's what happens on NetFriend. If you're looking over the goalie's strong side shoulder, okay, so if the goalie is looking over the left shoulder of the player screening him in front of him, We'll call that strong side because the righty defenseman's dragging it off the boards towards the middle of the ice. But what that righty defenseman does crossing the midline is you're forcing the goalie's head to go from strong side left shoulder to strong side now right shoulder because that's where the puck is. And then switching it back again and then sending the puck across the screen on diagonal.

So I think that when I'm looking at net front right now and the numbers are way up, it's easier to score there. It's a little more accessible ice-wise to be in the high ice and have access to it. And then the defensemen are getting crafter and craftery at getting it through. So that's one thing. And it's a hard one for goal these guys because you don't practice net front, okay? Not in summer league, nobody stands in front of the net in the summer. not when you're with your goalie training. Nobody's standing in front of the net.

You don't get those reps. And I feel like that's the one area where goalies can maybe bring in something. If it's, it might be a little gimmicky and have the guy that's, you know, the mannequin, maybe layered, but something. I used to use a broom with a T-shirt on it and I'd throw that in front of it. Yeah, it worked because I saw, I saw quarterbacks doing that, or at least their coaches doing that to the quarterbacks. and I don't know, something like that. So is there any part of this that you think is tied to gambling and how now that we, if you bet on a shot, it better be a shot, right?

It's recorded. It's we pick through it. They seem to take away shots more than they used to just to mess the percentages up a bit. So it's still not 100% accurate. I wouldn't bet shots. I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't because we have a no shot bucket and we still fill it. And we're still adding shots as well.

as a company. That's what we've always done. That's how we arrive at save percentage. The way we arrive at save percentage is we take the ones that didn't hit the net out, including the neutral zone shots that sometimes the NHL counts and sometimes they don't depending on the building. So there's inconsistencies. I wouldn't bet shots.

Valley, one more and then we'll get into grill time. What is it? Grill marks. Grill marks. Dobish was the toast of town. last year in the playoffs. He's struggling a bit. Too much of a good time.

Not enough subconscious. What's going on with him? Smiling too much. It's all mental. Well, I'll lean on this one. Dobish has the worst save percentage net front in the NHL right now. Do you remember last week

when we were talking about Montembo? And we were talking about how three years ago, best safe percentage in the NHL net front, last year, worst save percentage netfront. Now this year, Dobish, worst save percentage netfront, I think there's a bit of a theme here. And I think what Montreal needs to consider,

because if I was coaching, I think with the way the game's being played, I'd stop fronting pucks, and I would get to net front as quickly as possible and not allow access. So boxing out early would be my message to the defenseman. and if they beat you to net front, you hustle to get there and push

while watching up ice and seeing what's happening at the blue line as they're dancing across up top. But that to me is it. I've watched his net front today and he's missing a bit here and he's not playing a consistent approach to net front.

And that's where you have to go. There are only four ways to score when you're in the zone. You're going to score on netfront chances, you're going to score on dots down chances, which really are essentially one-timers from below the goal line to slot or half wall to slot. Or you're going to score on the slot line pass across, which is really difficult to do at five-on-five. The best chance to score at five-on-five in the NHL is net front, just the way it is. It screens, deflections, broken plays, rebounds.

Last year in the NHL at five-on-five, there were 726 goals scored. from net front. Shots from the blue line that got through and where guys were able to get secondary offense or screen deflections on the way in. So that was a 17% chance to score. It went up to 24% when teams were on the power play last year.

339 goals on just over 1,300 chances. So it's something that it seems to me like it's easy enough offense that most can do it. You don't need to have Quinn Hughes Adam Fox, McCar up top. Of course, they're the best at it, but you can accomplish it with any team.

It just shouldn't look like accidental offense. It should be by design. Right. You know what I mean, right? And Doe Bish is struggling in that area, but it's also part of the environment that he's playing in. Great job, buddy. You got time for grill marks?

Guys, grow time. Girl marks. Whatever. Valley, I found that gold Bradboys got on you. Did you see it? Is it bad? It's a stink bomb. I would have been pissed. I was a Rangers fan.

Well, you should have seen. All jokes aside, okay, my wife is at this game. She left after the first period to go to the green room. And I get up there after the game. She doesn't see the game. This is one of the most remarkable things I've ever pulled off. She never even saw it. So I get up there and the guy that's running the bar goes to be,

Valley, your wife was so nervous. She was looking at the moss on that roof over there on 7th Avenue. Talk about the secret. She was sending some positive vibes into the universe for you. And you know what? I realized after this game, Borney and Kipper, Sammy,

I came out to the street, right? Seventh Avenue and people are coming up to me. I didn't realize my wife's aunt and uncle were at the game. And it made a lot of people happy. And I'm like, you know what? The brighter side of doing this is if you do it well,

you make people, I don't know, a little happier and have a great day. You make me happy every Tuesday, Valley. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So, boys, Here's what I have for you today. Hardest environment to play for these goalies, okay, in the league.

I'm going to give you a list of five goalies, and this is the hardest net to play in in the NHL right now. This is for one point. And by the way, I updated it on X. You can see it because on the first week, you guys all had four points, I believe it was, and I came on and said three. I made an error there, but I corrected it. Okay. Okay.

So this is this year, right? We're talking about the first 10 games. You guys are, Kipper, you're leading right now. Nice. You can follow that on X-Fans. Murshev, Dostal, Bussie or Lankinen for the most difficult environment. Lankinen. It's a really good pick and I kind of want that too.

Pittsburgh probably can't defend all that great. Just to be different, I'll take Murshop. I'll take Lankton and too. I had to give it to Lankton and boys because I was pretty hard on him last week. I did get a couple of calls about broken, broken, broken, broken. And he plays in such a difficult environment. Expected goals against 32nd.

Rush against 29th. D-Zone coverage 30th. And then on the P.K., 31st. It's like, make a save, man. No help. Mix it a save. Fix it a save, dude. I can accidentally hit you too.

Yeah, fair. No, no, it's a tough place to play. Easiest environment in the NHL. Minimum 75 chances faced. Allmark, Blackwood, Skinner, Hill, or Garand? I'm going Skinner. I'm going Allmark. Yeah, I want Allmark, too.

Aidan Hill. Really? Wow. Best defensive zone coverage in the N. H.L right now is the Vegas Golden Night. I should have got, yeah. They're so big. You want to talk about boxed out? That's what I'm talking

about, Kipper. That's why you need those. They're massive. Yep. Vegas is quietly like. Vegas is quietly really good. Real good. Okay. I mentioned the safe percentage being in question over the glove this year.

Some of these guys have given up as many as 12 goals over the glove. Okay. And I'm going to ask you guys for the worst safe percentage among these five goalies. Dobish, Lankinen, Gibson, Wolf, Stolars. I'm going to go Gibson. God, you're all over me. Sorry.

I also want Gibson. I'll go Stolars. Stolars has a 556 save percentage over the glove this season. Kipper. Another gift card for Kipper he's not going to use. No, no, no. I found it. I found it.

I found it. That was 500 bucks. That was my prize. I got it. I found it. I'm going to wait and win another one. And then I'm going to eat by myself. That's the plan.

Fresh off their Dante's fiesta. I hope they run out of meat when you go. $500 at Brussels Sprout. No, I saw it the code. Did you see the code down there? I did see the code. Looks good on this line. Wow, look at this guy.

Hell, you're the man. You don't have to push Doug McLean. Yeah, what a guy. Oh, you know I love, Doug. I fell in love with you guys from all those years ago watching you guys on sports. That's awesome. Valley. Fourth member of the team.

You're awesome. Great. All right, boys. Great effort once again today. Talk to you soon, fellas. Have a good one. Thanks, Valley. See, Valley Cat.

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blew me off like an O2 fastball when I suggested Brady Kachuk was doing a nice thing tomorrow night in Ottawa. So on his podcast, he said that if anyone throws his jersey on the ice, they will be donating it to the Boys and Girls Club of Ottawa. Have they been through enough?

Maybe there's still Brady fans out there, Sammy. Why do we think they want it? Listen, there's just no way he came up with that on his own. I'm sorry, he thinks Seattle's in Canada. Like, he didn't come up with that by himself. So it doesn't really matter who came, it's a nice gesture. Sure, good for him. Great.

His jerseys. Ah, yeah, good for him. It's a, it's a good thing. He's on fire. He's on fire. If I'm a sense fan, there isn't a worse time for him. You go back. to back, you know,

Natty Haddy. You're now back to being a superstar in the league. Yeah, it was fun there for those four or five games, but he stunk. I was enjoying that. I really missed it. Ottawa, a little concern about attendance, possibly, for tomorrow. What do you make of that? There's a lot of talk about attendance.

Edmonton was the real eye-opener. Well, if, yeah, Edmonton and Chicago, I believe, was struggling a little too. It's like, that, those are pretty good hockey markets, man. I don't know. What do you make up? I got to think that the fan is stressed financially. It's, it. I know there's a lot of talking.

We first spoke of this before I think anyone else did with the whole broker thing and tickets being unavailable. And when they are, they're in the wrong hands. But I think the bottom line here is a lot of stuff going on. and households. Yeah. And where they prioritize, where they prioritize professional sports right now

might not be very high when it comes to what they have to endure when it comes to going to the gas station or the grocery store. It's tough. Yeah, I get it for sure. But you would think if somebody was going to dig into their pockets and find a way to go to a game. This would be the one.

You got to get there. Ottawa has got to show out. You got to go. That Brady Kachach's return. where you get to go and, you know, where your incendiary jerseys that you're going to throw on the ice? If you think that it would be at the top of the list for a fan, then there has to be a part of maybe they just don't want to watch them,

think about them, look at them. Yeah, I guess. Like, where else are you left with to believe? Sports hate is a really pure gift that not every franchise gets to have. We got the king of hate here. Yeah, sports hate is. fine. And it's,

this is, go let it out on someone. You can't yell your boss? Go yell at Brady. I just want to say for my

Sends fan, brothers and sisters who love me so much. I despise that dude. I'm worried for you tomorrow night. Motivated Brady, I think on a five game point streak or a four point,

four game point street, he's got ten points in the year already. He's red hot. You don't really have anyone to like, you know, tell him to shut up. I mean, we'll talk about it probably more tomorrow,

but he's going to go in there like a bowl in a china shop and have a huge night and kind of shove it down Ottawa's throat as kind of how I'm feeling shove what down their throat that they gave me everything he wanted well no but they've been mean to him like they've been mean to him since you left and like I hey listen I'm on board with it I love that they're mean I've even given them credit for the stuff they've been saying it's hilarious but he's probably seen it he's very online he's on a podcast he keeps in you know he's he's guaranteed seen the things that people are saying about him so oh yeah like he's like he's

He's seen it. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Florida's won three in a row. They're pretty hot. I am more interested in Brady's teammates and how they respond. Interesting. I mean, why would they do anything other than fight for them and respond with them?

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. There's no chance that they're like, you're on your own loser. No, no, no, no. But how quickly does it happen? Who do they go after? Who do they target? who, like, they've got some firepower on that team around Brady.

Yeah, that's the type of group that's looking for an excuse to do it. Who on the other side? Mont-Palo's not dressing? Can you think about the best excuse to go out there and act like Florida, then this game? Totally. We know Tampa over the last few years, they didn't need much motivation to go start some crap.

Big ask for Ridley Greg, Shane Pinto, Dylan Cousins, a bunch of guys to... It's a green light to be... Oh, but it's a tap-in pot. Yeah, it is. For the Florida Panthers to do Florida Panther things out there. They're going to smoke them.

And this is a potential playoff series, right? Like, these... This is a real moment for Ottawa to answer the bell, too. They're six and three. They're... Both teams have 12 points in nine games. This is a very serious divisional matchup. Very serious.

Very serious. You know, what I mean? Very competitive matchup. So, well, if you count green and stales, is very serious. Panthers won't have their goalie though. Markstrom, one to two weeks. It's almost like they could use a different goalie. There's not a snowball's chance that they have anything left to go get Halebuck.

So just stop it. Okay. Okay. Really? Really. Really. What if he says I'm only going there? You sure about that? Then he can just stay. home. They have no first.

They got 2030. Nothing. 2030? That's not getting it done? 2031 at 2028 second. Lundell Luster-Reynan. It's still packing a lunch to go to school. Yeah, he's in the first year of the O HL right now.

I was talking public school. Oh, okay. Well, it's pretty much the same age. Ways to go yet. Yeah. So Jake Sanderson, we'll be back, though. Welcome back to the NHL. after your injury.

Go play a mad Florida team. Go play in a street fight. Yeah. But he's taking Brady to dinner. The question I have is... He's taking Brady to dinner? Yeah. They're going to have dinner before the game.

I saw some people don't like that. The question I ask is, who else is going to the dinner? Well... Where are they going for dinner? Now, Jake Sanderson... Well, they're... He was on the American hockey team. Yeah, okay.

Have dinner in the summer. Do you think Hella Buck will be at the dinner? This is what they do. Have dinner in the summer. This is what... Who's they? other players today. Oh, the Americans?

Oh, I know. I thought you just you people, players in general, they have no problem, getting together, having dinner the night before or right after the game. Yeah.

With other teammates. Totally. But I can't tell you what it was like for me to have a buddy on the other team. You played for Philly for four years and then play them. And then go out with a guy

on the other team for a beer after and it was like, it was like a blind date, you know, you kind of, you never walk in together. You actually meet someone there and it has to be that slow, like, hey, how's it going? Good, how's it going? Anybody watching us? Anybody seeing us together?

Totally. Beer after is totally acceptable to me. I think that kind of goes into what a beer after. But it was low key. Yeah, that's okay. It was not something that you wrote about in the papers. Dinner before is not, okay. Beer after, okay.

Dinner before, not acceptable. But you don't get to plan when your team departing. and arrives, and if they're in the night before, that's the better night to do it. Go to the cottage in the summer and hang out. I'm with you. I'm with you. Go have dinner with your teammates the night before game.

Come on. Not with another guy on the other team. I'm with you. I'm like. But like if it's your bestie, you know. But I'm trying to evolve now, right? You are evolving. I'm evolving.

If it's your best buddy or something, I get it, but a couple really good games tonight, and that's including the Leafs in Columbus. But Edmonton, Edmonton hosting Minnesota tonight, two really good teams there. And later on, I'm sure you'll be up for this whole game. Tampa in Vegas at 10.30.

Two really excellent games there. I am working the Toronto Columbus game. So I will be home late and full of adrenaline. Yes. I may give it a good watch. Can the L.A. Kings win a game tonight? No. I don't know, man.

I'm concerned for the Kings. You're hearing Byfield's name out there. They Scratch, too? C.C. Cody Cici scratched. He's got three more, this year plus two more, I think, of his contract. I'm worried about them. Just, yeah, with Chica just hang up the cause.

Okay. On Byfield? No on Cici. Oh, and Cici? Good Lord. Get Scott Lotton back perhaps. Well, listen, I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced that a prior regime would have hung up the phone on Cody C.

Right. Interesting to watch. Scott Mayfield to the Leafs? No. Okay. Boston, they can do it. but it's not doing it for me anyways. No, Sam.

Boston at Dallas. Nice to see future captain of the Boston Bruins, Fraser Minton. What a song up. Going up against Dallas tonight. Good young centerman. Yeah, great. That's fine.

If the leaves had Frasier Minton, they wouldn't have Gavin McKenna. That's what I have to tell myself at night. That's actually a really nice cope. Yes. They wouldn't have it. So they wouldn't have the future that they have with Gavin McKinnon if they had Frasier Mennon.

It's always about the future. You always got a bright future. As Leaf fans know well, there's always next year, brother. What else you like? For tonight? Tampa and Vegas. That was the one I was talking about it. Lane Hudson, Macklin-Cellebrini, going at it in Montreal.

Pretty awesome. They got to come back and play a lot better than they did in Toronto. Sharkies. I was Celebrini. Like, you know how people that are sort of my age growing up or maybe a little bit younger, how there's a lot of Penguins fans because of Sid? celebrating the sharks of the new that team.

Also, their juries are so nice. Hold on, hold on. So, we got to get this in. Is it too late? Zegris. We missed it. He called a line of his teammates low IQ, which is very funny. Let's get it in. We don't have time.

What's like watching that kid line with the Parky and the bump and especially Coca-Kin-Bour in his debut? Not a lot of brain cells. Not a lot of brain cells, but they're good. They're great, yeah. Bring a lot of energy to the team in the locker. room on the bench. They're having

a blast, which goes up and down the lineup. This is coming from a guy who dressed the season opener as Spicoli. You're walking into the ring. It's an old reference, pal. That's tough. You lost our eyes.

Under 40. I'm out. You have no idea who Spicoli is. But there you go. But barely. Not barely. Barele. That movie lives forever. That movie lives forever. We got to go.

We got to go. Enjoy your games tonight.