Real Kyper & Bourne - What We're Thankful For in the NHL + Terry Ryan!

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

On this American Thanksgiving edition, Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee share what they are thankful for, including Bourne's New York Islanders' season, Kyper on the Maple Leafs Alumni group, NHL players participating in the 2026 Winter Olympics, the rise of the younger teams across the leagues, and the increase in 'player-power' similar to the NBA. Then, Nick and Justin are joined by former NHLer and actor Terry Ryan (33:45) to chat about his transition from playing the pros to working on Shoresy, learning from notable actor Jason Momoa and the Shoresy Fall Classic in which Nick Kypreos will participate.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.

All right, we take it national on the real Kipper and Bourne show. Nick Kempry host, Justin Bourne. Sammy. Sorry. What happened? Jake is much like you, our beloved TV guy. I don't know. What do you want your role to be called?

Technical director for TV side of things? Wait until the very last moment was like, the jersey. Wait, do you just pass the buck to him for waiting to the last minute to tell you? Yes. So I didn't have to throw you under the bus. No, Jake did. Jake did.

Jake did. Do you want me to change it? Yeah. Okay. I think people enjoy watching you. This is the walk of shame. This is the walk of shame, yeah. National show, Sammy. We're not Leafcentric anymore.

We are live on Sportsnet 650 in Vancouver. Sportsnet 960 in Calgary and streaming always on Sportsnet. Plus. Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube. Such a nice jersey. And they sent it to us. I know. They made the effort.

Yeah. There's others that have not made the effort. Just send us their jersey. We would love to do more jet stock. Oh, but we just don't have a beautiful jet sweater. Sending us a jersey. Preferably the old school one, you know, like the.

Oh, in that place. Yeah, I really like the old school one they have, yeah. This hour, Real Kippren, Boren, brought to you by Bet, bet three six five can we just say happy thanksgiving to our american friends as we are in our second football game yeah uh a large game here cowboys chiefs uh patrick mahomes got them off to a good start yep and then the uh cowboys responded they did immediately with a with a touchdown drive cd lamb catching it i got my american wife at home making an apple pie not even a joke those are real things that are happening sick turkey or no yeah so she wow she's really into

it, right? Like, to the point where it's like a little weird. Like, she's watching the Macy's parade. Sometimes she cries when it's on. Over a float? And she's like, truly like, embraced her Canadian side to a crazy dude. She can't let go of Thanksgiving. It's the most American holiday

of the year. Like a float would make her cry. Snoopy, buddy. I don't know. Well, it's not the, it's not, it's the whole thing. I don't know. It reminds her being around the whole family. There was a big, you know, during the Four Nations face off and all that stuff.

They were talking about like the 51st state thing and that was like really hot for a while and Trump wouldn't shut his mouth about it and it was a big deal. And I was thinking, I was like, yeah, that would really suck except Thanksgiving. It's like, you know, that day, that one day of the year.

To take it on. It would be, I'm so jealous of their Thanksgiving. It chops up the week too. No one does anything tomorrow. It's just so much better. It's just so much better. Maybe a hockey day. I'm calling for one hockey game on Thanksgiving.

Yes, 100%. Against the most watched football game of the history of the world? What time was kickoff on the first one? Canadian Thanksgiving? Oh, on Canadian Thanksgiving? I think there are games. Oh, you want one today, a hockey game. Okay, what time was kickoff on the first game?

One. It used to be 1230, that is one. Well, listen, why couldn't all the Canadian teams play today? Why couldn't? In Canada. Why can't you have one game at 11 a.m.? 11 a.m.? The school day game?

They're going to play the Sun. In the U.S. In the U.S. In the U.S. The same. and I'm on board. I'm not. Just create a Canadian event.

Because there's certain things that are just tradition. And I love traditions and there's not a ton of traditions left, but just just football. It's a football day. Don't try to, like, NFL already ruined Christmas by being like, sorry NBA. It's not your day anymore. We're taking Christmas too.

I don't think we would have to compete with the football. I think we just kind of latch on to an early game. It'd be the little yappy dog besides the big dog. We're here too. So you missed the first half of the first game. You still got two more to go. The lions are 38, 45, and 2 on Thanksgiving. I thought it would be worse than that.

In about 25 minutes, we're going to welcome in Terry Ryan, former NHLer, Montreal Canadian first round pick, who is now turned into a TV star for Shore Z. I only bring this up because I am playing against Terry tomorrow night at Scotia Bank Arena. It's the Shore Z cast versus the Toronto Maple Leaf alumni. I've watched a couple of these games already that they've played. I think they played the Islanders.

I think they played Detroit. I haven't seen the aisle. I'm watching Darren McCarty drop his gloves with one of the guys. What do you mean? Yeah, with, uh, it's not turn to Asky. Oh, crap. I don't know, but. Marasty.

Asty, Marasty. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the gyms on the show. I don't need that pressure. I got to be honest with you. Are you? No, we're not. We got Chris King.

We got Chris King And we got Chris King If you're checking the game notes And you see Nick Kiprios There might be someone on there Be like I guess Kippers is my guy Darcy Tucker We got Tux

Andrew Pov's not going to go Who's that Andrew Pob's not going to go Andrew Pob's our biggest strongest guy Peter Holland We got some youth too But like I'm reminding everybody Like I'm turning 60 soon

How old's How old is McCarty? McCarty's probably about 56. You got the Mohawk, though. Yeah, the Rattie 5. Yeah. But he's got, he's got, he's got juice to do it. I don't.

I look at you guys right now, and I can barely get through this show. You know, so looking forward to Terry and discussing how a show like this goes from, I don't know, letter Kenny, I guess, started. And now they just, like, this is big, too. There's going to be like 14,000 people at this game And none of them are coming to see me It is culturally like, you know, hockey in Canada is kind of our thing And everyone knows the people that are represented in this show The archetypes they're there

We can all relate to this. It's a lot of our buddies. It feels like being in the locker room. The second season they do like, they go play all these teams from all across Canada And like they just nail every Canadian stereotype So hard that it's just like I mean, there's some listeners probably in Vaughn that are listening to this.

But the guy that they have that's like the star of the Vaughn team is just like the most. Jared's the star, right? He does everything. He writes, produces, stars. And somebody told me that he pulled a tooth out of his mouth to be more authentic. Is that right? I don't know. That can't be true.

It can be. You know, these guys commit to the role. All right. You ready? Ready. Okay, so Sammy, you want to run down what we are thankful for across the NHL in the hockey world? Is this your... Well, here's the thing.

It's harder to get people to come on the show on American Thanksgiving. We have a lot of American guests, and I was thinking to ourselves, what can we do instead of having a guest on? So I decided to take the low-hanging fruit. It's a good way to talk about a few things in the week. They're all home crying over the Macy's parade. They are. But I said, what we want to do thankful for? And then Kippertner naturally was like, let's do thankful our things.

thank less so I thought you know we could start with a thankful okay and I just going to pull up my sheet here but I would say that I am thankful for our beloved Rogers communications

for spending money because boy oh boy they are throwing the cash around Dylan cease seven year 210 million dollar contract 30 million dollars a year deferred money works out to 26 million dollars a year they are splashing the cash they're acting like a big boy you know everybody likes to complain

about rogers but now that they're making the blue jays good maybe a few less but it just doesn't stop with the blue jays they're the commitment to hockey the national yeah yeah that's great too that's great too but specifically about the blue jays yeah yeah i'm more grateful for that one than i'm Dylan C's. Jobs. Yeah. Right. Even for Edmonton and Vancouver naming rights of buildings. Like they are spending the cash.

Just to start off, I'm thankful for Rodgers. Just going to bend the knee here to start the show. Thank you, Papa. Thank you, Papa. Can we get some coffee, though, down here? Is that too much to ask? Thank you, Edward. Yeah.

I love you. Am I up then? Yeah, I got a rip. All right. I'm going to do a fan take. I have a lot of, like, different versions of. of takes. My fan take, though, is the Islander's summer of 2025.

I'm thankful for it. The Islanders from 2020 to 2024 picked in the top 20, zero times, five drafts, zero picks. From when to when? From 2020 to 2024, those five drafts. Okay, yeah. Zero picks. This summer, they win the draft lottery.

Matthew Schaefer, they get rid of Dobson. Schaefer's already better than Dobson. And they get the 16, the 17, a couple of young kids. All of a sudden, it's like, exciting. For Islanders fans, it's been a lot of boring, slow. hockey makes it fun for me to follow it you know hopefully to go to a game on the 23rd when I'm there fan take thankful for the summer the islanders had in 2025 wow nice I went on in calgary yesterday morning because I committed to it I forgot that I did it probably the worst radio

hit of all time from my bed but they asked me what my favorite teams to watch are around the league like my league pass sort of rankings for the league and I said that the islanders are in there yeah you would never have said that a long time ago but horvats been unbelievable shafers clearly fun to watch. Yeah, that, it's the Heinemann, Heinemann they got for, from the HABS. He's been awesome. So it's a good one.

I am thankful for my Maple Leaf and NHL alumni. Yep. And what it's growing into, of course, this leads into tomorrow night to be at my age

invited to something still. that's special and we just talked about Chorzie and we're going to have Terry Ryan who's also a fellow NHL alumnus it's amazing as far as the Toronto Maple Leafs are concerned I've always stated this is just an absolute first class outfit

you guys have been to our alumni room the respect that they show us it's grown Brendan Shanahan was a big part of that but it's it continues right through And it's just not just the Maple Leaf alumni. It's the NHL alumni, Glenn Healy, Wendy McCreary.

I'm thankful for them. And it's growing. It's growing. The staff is growing. The opportunities for more players to get involved. The big thing for me is I'm thankful for Glenn Healy and his push to push the NHL challenge, the current players association to say, hey, listen, where would you guys be without the ex-players? like how insurance is coming our way there's about i want to say about 17-1800 of us that

are still around yeah and when you think about it it's not that much in the history of the game and for some of these guys that don't have opportunities to be involved in the community still it's it's there now i will say this though you know and i speak outside of the toronto mate beliefs. There's still a lot of teams out there that can do a much better job of acknowledging their ex-players. And I don't want to embarrass anybody and I don't want to name any teams, but come on. Like, let's do better here, some NHL teams out there. Let's acknowledge that these guys were part of your history. They should feel welcome, you know, you shouldn't be charging them full price for a beer, you know, if they come to a game. Come on, guys.

And I will, since I did not anticipate earnestness and sincerity from you out of this. So I'll add on to that, that behind the scenes, the NHL does a lot of work for a lot of people in recovery and going through things. And so grateful that they're, this is all, Glenn Healy has some hand in that too. Big time. Lafontein and a lot of those guys who've done work with players. You're right. You're right. Mental health is a big challenge for us.

And it's not just the alumnus. It's the spouse. it's the sons and daughters it's the parents it's aunts and uncles that are affected by mental health here and we got to we got to do our best to look after each other it's funny then you look like you're thankfulness and it's like I'm thankful for the big hit thrown by you know

I feel like I guess I ought to go to my next one here all right you stuffed me in a locker with sweetness over there you're good you're good uh I'm flat out thankful for best on best hockey and that we get to have what I think are some of the most fun conversations about hockey that I have as a hockey fan. I think a lot of conversations around the Leafs and around hockey and around the league in general is just a lot about how much guys make in terms of what are you going to fit them

under the cap, how much they're measured against how much they make and blah, blah, blah. But I do think that having these conversations about the national teams is so much more about merit and how they are as a player and how they are is they're going to fit on a team and all this different stuff so i'm just i'm so excited the olympics are coming up and hopefully they build the rink in time hopefully they send the gourds over there to get it built and we get to watch it but it's awesome and i'm so happy it's back so i'm incredibly thankful for that do you guys have chanel marty walsh because he was he came in and he just got swinging do you guys have any thought about does it i i don't know the numbers completely in terms of the

injuries if we have we have more now or does it feel more or is it we went from virtually nothing in the last 10 15 years to international competition best on best every other year is there a part of you that worries about the stress that this will put on our best players no i think there's a conversation to be had about it but i think all these guys have at ever Every opportunity Kipper said that they want to do it. I know. So it's like, you know, they've all been desperate for it. You know, I guess it's harder in other sports,

but, you know, football's never going to have a best on best because it's all American guys. But basketball, they all get a chance to compete in, you know, internationally. Baseball. Off season, is it not? Baseball is the world, they have the world baseball classic right before the season starts. They don't shut down for three weeks. The most popular sport in the world shuts down multiple times every season for international.

It's just, I think these guys look around and they have the opportunity to do and I think they're excited to buy it. I don't disagree for one second that they want it and they're excited about it. It's a big toll. We're talking about what, like 50 NHLers or something like that. But the best ones. That play, you know, not by the way, when I say this, I'm not minimizing it, but they play six games additionally.

But to your point, it's travel, it's pressure, it's a different type of. I worry a little bit about Connor McDavid because he is. is the absolute face of the league. And there's just so much on him constantly to be the guy. And he doesn't get days off. I'm telling you, if even on days that he doesn't look great, I'm sure it wears on him because he knows how good he is and how at times he can dominate a game.

And I don't know. I mean, it must wear on him too. Yeah, I guess. remains to be seen. But what are we going to do is just keep squeezing whatever we can out of them until we've squeezed until he's done?

You're kind of theorizing in making this theoretical thing where we know he's going to break. It's going to be too much. We don't know. We don't know what's too much. Like so far he's pretty awesome all the time. He's getting older.

I think I'm seeing a little wear and tear on him right now. Yeah, okay. I mean, was he first in the league in points? Yeah. I just think that whatever the points are, it really, all that matters is where's your team, where's the health of the team? And, and again, him watching the standings right now

and where he feels like. He literally said he has no answers the other night. Right? I've never heard him like that before. You know, like it's very presumptive to be like international play is why. He's been to the Stanley Cup final two years in a row. you know like you know like that i know but i mean the islanders when they won all their cups like it wore on them too like that wears on guys that's part of the thing is the grind but they had

i don't know how many hall of famers and how many guys to lean on and no one as good as bossy and trache were clark your father-in-law your dad they they had a multiple amount of star players to lean on Connor has Leon and that's it. I know, I know. But we're talking about international play being the reason you think he's slowing down. It's like I just, it's a lot. I agree.

He himself has dealt with a lot. I think it's probably the hardest by far for him. He's carrying the biggest burden of any hockey player on the planet. Yeah. And I think, you know, McKinnon, I mean, he's got to do it in Colorado. But he's got to go, but he's already won a cup. He is clearly, his team's, unbelievable he's going there feeling the best he's ever felt it's a different scenario for him

than it is for macdavit yeah cid's going as like the captain who's just you know it's like one last conversation is more about mac david than it is about international play because international play hasn't affected who else has worn the burden that macdavid's no no there's to your point it's an accumulation like not only are you dealing with a lot of hockey uh multiple stanley cup finals and then you're you you're you you're you got to, and then there's weddings and then you got to fly over to France and you got to come back and, oh,

I got to train and this. So would you like to see no international play? No. I think, in all honesty, I think every other year between a World Cup and an Olympic is too much. It's too much for me. Every other year is too much for me. I'll take

one every four. How about every third year? Can I say every third year? I think if everybody wants the Olympics, it has to be once every four years. Do you think the World Cup is a money grab by the NHL. I actually think that's fair. A hundred percent, it's about the cash. You should pay the players for that.

They get paid for the World Cup? Yes. It's a, well, it's a split between the PA and the owners. But I also think that there's always sketchy with the Olympics in terms of if the players go or not. And like I know they, you know, it just, it feels like that's a lot more fleeting than a World Cup having it set in. I'll take a World Cup every four years and ditch the Olympics.

You can actually run it. current to the Olympics at the same time whatever she's like we're just going to control our little section of this I mean you could easily do that yeah oh I like that idea IOC would not be happy boys we just fixed the international hockey all right next

the kids and the turnarounds I was really having a tough time watching the same team suck okay the ducks have been brutal the wings have been brutal blackhawks for all the sharks thank God they're going the right direction we need turnover in this league felt like some of the

rebuilds are taking a long time and all of a sudden it's like oh, Celebrini's second in the league and Bedard's fourth, Leo Carlson's a star and Cutter Goce shoots it in the net and there's this like influx of new blood, of new excitement and teams going one way. I'm thankful for that. Love that. Yeah. The one thing

that I find a little bit kind of not concerning, but like how much. Everyone's thankful at Thanksgiving. should be followed by kippers actually here's why that sucks it's we have give her an electric dinner gas i'm not sure like you know these guys are going to turn real close or real soon into like superstars and there's just certain players in certain markets with as we continue to kind of push 32 teams or 34 35 there's only so much attention to go

round like if we had 16 or 18 20 teams and you had a celebrini he'd be celebrated a lot more you know what I mean okay I think I mean I think sometimes he's he's kind of getting or 24 oh god imagine the league I'm just saying that like I don't know if we'll ever if they'll ever get like the full attention especially in non like hockey markets well you know it's great for that He's kind of getting lost. I'm worried about some of these guys getting lost. I guess I don't understand. So you think that because there's too many players.

I just think that there's so much to go around and so much to cover and so many stories to cover. I see, yeah. You know, a guy like Leo Carlson and Anaheim, he's not moving the needle. We'll never get the attention. We'll never get like his just due if he turns out to be an incredible hockey player.

just stay in his little pocket and get his little, you know, endorsements. We talked to Getslaff the other day. He'd be a massive star war of that career in trust. We can't, we can't, like, celebrate them as national kind of stars. But that's our job. Isn't that our job? Yeah, it feels like people.

Leo Carlson. Feels like that's our job. Yeah. I'm not doing Leo Carlson from here. Turn him into a Knoch, turn him into an oiler, a leaf. then we got something to talk about Leo but I ain't talking about Leo from here In Anaheim

Would Anaheim take all of the Leafs draft picks For the next two drafts No It's not enough No I mean one first and a seventh Kippery, that one I am thankful

for NHL officials Oh Boo You know what? I'm thankful for that too I am thankful that we still the least game last night?

He's on fire. I am thankful that we still have that human element when we can go. That call sucks. Okay. Okay. We're losing that in baseball. Respect that. That's my whole point is that.

Football could use more robots. As bad as it is that you think it is, I like that. Yeah. I do. I think there's a, we've maxed out on video review and getting it right. Let's please keep. the human element into this I think you can you can't change it in hockey like it's all our penalties are subjective a hook a hold you could never have I'm telling you I'm watching this

artificial intelligence yeah you can do anything you want you can up you can set up you can't necessarily well you can set up a computer that watches a game and hold Nader 3,000 and judge and program whatever you think is a trip or not a trip just let me know yeah No, you're not wrong. Okay. All right. AI officials is something I didn't think. Buddy, I'm telling you, it scares me.

Intentional. Offside. Well, intentional. And for some reason, the hands are weird on it. Did you catch the official last night? I think it was Chicago and Minnesota calling the major. Do we have that, Derek? Oh, we do?

Oh, wow. That was extremely fast. These guys are gross. Minnesota number five. Chicago 34, Chuck and Knott. fight minutes each fighting chuck and knox chuck and knox chuck and knox that's two shoresy okay come on that's this is it's five for fighting hit the box this is what are we doing here this is absurd this is where like i like the human element of you making a call but but

no one is paying to come and watch you bingo announce chuck and knucks meanwhile chuck and knucks meanwhile Buffer and Bruce Buffer have their feet up on, you know, their mink couches. You know, you say no one's here to see these guys. If they can entertain, they entertain. It's Todd. There's nothing like that. No, it's electric. There's nothing like that.

I want that for my funeral. If Chuck and Knuck's becomes a thing, you'll see T-shirts, hats, brands, violent gentlemen are going to have Chuck and Nucks hats tomorrow. Oh, my God. Chuck and Nucks. That's where you can get yourself in trouble. What's the name of the ref? Five minutes for fighting.

What's the name of the ref? No idea. It was it. Was it West McCalley? No, it's not West. There's no one guy is it. It's not best. It's not West.

There's a guy you will know. He will be famous for that and he's going to have a brand. It's going to be a whole thing. You just wait. Chuck Nuck's the podcast. It's coming. This has gone a lot better than I expected. So we're kind of getting deep on time here.

But I got lots. Here's what I'll say. I am so thankful for the Edmonton Oilers. I just... Does it make you forget about the Leafs? Misery loves company. They're not the most miserable. They are definitely are having...

Misery rankings number one in the league. 100%. I find it tough to argue that, actually. I mean, they are having a way worse here. Great observation. I don't know about way worse. Buddy, way worse. No.

The Leafs were in the basement. No. Before last night. Connor McDavid literally was like, I will take $8 million below market value to be like, I'm staying here. I care about this. And they immediately gave it all these guys who can't do anything. Like, Walman's been awful.

Ekholm looks like he's past his prime. You know, like this whole thing that they built this on that, like, he took his discount for, and they reek. I watched that game the other night that you did. And, boy, I have got more message about my bet three, six, five pick for that one. What did you pick? I picked Skinner, 25 saves. Did he make him?

Seemed like there were a thousand shots. I mean, you did the game. He was out in the second. Anyways. Don't hold me a count. I just, I honestly think that like, they are the biggest disappointment by far in the league, and I actually think they may stink.

And it's distracting me a little bit from the Leafs, where the Leafs are having a bad year, but they lost their best player last year. There's an expectation. There's a reason that they're not nearly as good. Oilers are supposed to, be in their cup contention window and they're going to have a hard time making the playoffs. Oilers reek.

Yeah, it's, uh, didn't see that coming. It's, it's more, for that reason alone, it is a lot more sensitive, I think, out there. Yeah. Uh, I'm thankful for, I'm going to go with increase in player power, uh, in terms of getting, having the power to say, I don't want to be here anymore. I want to go somewhere else. I love the NBA's like, yeah, I know you don't. I love the idea that these.

guys are like, I want to be here. I'm not happy with this. They're dictating. It's a soap opera. And I think the off-ice stuff is fun when guys are changing teams and it creates rivalries and drama and pressure and story lines. Just remember there's two sides. There's also another side that you could tell

somebody, yeah, maybe you should just stay home. What do you mean? Just yeah, don't come to work. We'll pay you to stay home. Yes. We've yet to see a team do that, though. They all get someone for their rather than disgruntled player you think it's coming where a team says oh you don't want to be here you have a contract

bye bye uh yeah with certain players yes yeah i do uh i wish to do game time i'm also grateful for tom wilson because he reminds teams that you still need a little of that element oh my god i love him i'm also thankful for connor bernard is not being a bust yeah that's nice yeah i just thought it might happen and it hasn't happened no not a bust i was worried man just he was awful for A very good hockey player. Correct. And now he looks like he's going to be a star. It's game time.

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Not sure I would be telling him to get back under center for a team that's three and eight. I like his answers about this, though. He was like, they pay me a lot of money to be the quarterback. He's a football player. He wants to play football. I get it. I understand it. But at some point, it's like, this guy's been banged up his whole career.

maybe don't need to get them back under center the most violent game on earth for no reason. But they are big under... They are big underdogs, as you would imagine. They are plus $2.90 on the money line. Baltimore Ravens minus $3.70. I think the Baltimore Ravens... I watch a lot NFL.

I'm a bit of an NFL pundant, if you will, you know? Okay. I think the Baltimore Ravens are big-time frauds, and I think Joe Burrow could have a little bit of a game today. So give me a long shot on the Cincinnati Bengals tonight in Baltimore at plus... 290 big number you want to wrap it up yeah and don't ever bet stew skinner to make 25 same than a hockey game ever again uh that was game time presented by bet 365 visit the app for latest

odds and see why it's ever ordinary at bet 365 must be a team plus ontario only please play responsibly so just to add to your comment about joe and potentially looking at it going what's the point right yep i do worry about guys coming out of the olympics looking at their team saying no shot at the playoffs I'm shutting it down to yeah like Austin Matthews yeah like Austin Matthews Matthews there could be a handful

of guys yeah I wonder if they feel like I'm getting paid a lot that seems unrelated to the Olympics right that's just that time of year yeah well it's related to the Olympics you know because they they'll go play there they'll go play there play hard

all right let's take a quick break when we return Terry Ryan, star of Shorzie gets to face Toronto Maple Leaf alumni. Tomorrow night's Gosha Bank Arena will have Terry tell us how he's going to make me look good tomorrow night. I doubt he's going to do that. I bet he'll do the opposite. Star of Shorzy when we return to Real Kipper and Morn. Hey, it's Ben Anas. And I'm Brent Cunning. We got you covered on all things. Leaves.

Rafters and Blue Jays every weekday morning six to nine it's the fan morning show sports net 5-9 to the fan and wherever you get your podcasts as a reminder of real kipper and born brought to by bet three six five Nick Hi, Nick Pryos, Justin Boren, Sambay, Mickey. What time is that game tomorrow night that you're in? Well, let's just be clear here because it's out of whack tomorrow. We are on the air at 2.30? Two.

Oh, my God. No. Why is your mic not working? Oh, there it is. There it cuts me off. Rightfully so. Edmonton was like, hit the off. Edmonton cut them off.

Are we dentists time? Two to four 30 tomorrow. Is that a two-thirty joke? Two-thirty. Very good. Two to four-thirty because the Leafs start at five. So two o'clock till four-thirty p.m. The Ted Reef tornadoes play at six, ten, baby.

Why don't get to go. Natoes. I do believe our puck drop, NHL alumni versus the Shore Z-Cast, is 7-10. 7.10. That's very official. Anthems and everything? Probably. I don't think that they've ever gone without anthems for a hockey game. Yeah. Well, good news. All right. Let's welcome him in. The star

of tomorrow night's hockey game. Terry Ryan, Terry Ryan, former national hockey leaguer. Terry, what's going on, bud? Thanks for having me, guys. I'm a big fan of the show. You're doing a great job. And it's exciting to be back in Toronto for our big game. I love it. I love it. Last time I bumped into you was, was it game six or game seven of the World Series? It was game six. I would have gone to seven or fortunately I got invited to six and that was good. I'm a big Jays fan.

I was in Alberta to do an event on the Thursday and I had one in Saskatchew and on the Saturday. But I got the invite on the Friday. So flew in and shortly flew back out. But that was a great memory. And I love I love the Jays this season. They're a metaphor for. so much in team sports and what they accomplished and how they did it is not always so obvious in baseball. I find being a great teammate and going out there in hockey, it's a lot more tangible. It's a lot easier to accomplish when you can hit and you can fight. The season is it requires so much physicality.

But for that team to come together and pick each other up and they were down constantly was one of my favorite sports memories as a Canadian. I want to get into tomorrow night's game for sure, and we will. But just take us back a little bit, okay? You're from out east, a small town. You live every Canadian boy's dream of growing up and getting drafted and playing in the NHL. And today, you're not necessarily known as an NHX player.

You are an international TV star, okay? How the heck does that happen, buddy, for a guy like you? It's really wild because honestly, I left home. I'm the only Newfoundlander to play in the Western League. My dad played pro hockey, and I'm not going to say he full on guided me with every single decision. But I loved watching Major Junior on TV. It wasn't much of a possibility.

We had John Slaney, came out before me, but John won a tournament to get to come to the SO Cup, I think, and got noticed up here. John went ninth overall, but there wasn't a lot, Steve Locke. I can count them on one hand. And I knew the Western League was a great league. I went to the Quebec Peewee Tournament,

and Tri-City were there, and they thought outside the box. And they convinced my dad there was a good package to have me come out west. I had to move out west in order to get drafted there. And not that I had anything against the other two leagues, but Tri-City made it a pretty good offer. They paid for my schooling, to be honest with you.

If one game, they said, if you get hurt or whatever, we'll figure out a way that all your schooling will get paid for. And that was the main thing. My dad played pro as five brothers and sisters and retired when he was, I think, 24, 25, with a real good chance at going back to the NHL. But dad's goal was to get his degree, right? So I kind of looked at the world like that. I didn't think that I really had that much of a chance to play in the NHL. I wanted to, but I wanted to springboard it and Tri-City offered me to go out when I was 14. So I did.

And then one thing led to another guy. So I went through. I had a successful career of sorts. Montreal Canadiens are my favorite team ever. They star. So to get drafted there was so overwhelming and surreal. But it was my own fault that it didn't work out. I mean, it did to a degree.

I was rookie the year in the minors. I was doing well. I played some games there as a 19-year-old. And it just, I didn't like Michelle Tarion. but that is no excuse not to go back to camp I made a mistake and I didn't go back I couldn't I could have even tried to talk it out with them I didn't I just went through my age and it was bad news and I hurt my ankle

while I was holding out and I never got to live my dream I was the eighth overall pick the highest pick ever from Newfoundland and I had egg in my face it was hard to get over but the TV the TV well here's what happened the Canadians called me Susan Cryans from the office I mean she changed my whole life. And she said, you know, it's in your contract. If you get, if you in, if you retire because of injury, um, you know, we have to pay for your schooling, but you only have like another two months to register. You got to do it by September. So I went in not knowing anything. And I got a folklore

English BA. I was going to go on and be a teacher. But within that, I got a, it's a film studies certificate sort of thing. And then, you know, I started working on crew guys for four or five years. I met Jason Mamoa. And Jason said, keep the tooth out and I'll get you some stunts. I was a drug dealer, I was a pimp, I was a gangster, I was a British, the first one was the frontier is on Netflix right now. You go back and watch that tonight, and the very, very first scene is me. It called for a British soldier to be captured and really beaten up,

begging for his life. And, you know, between Mamoa and takes shot productions, I'd been working five or six years on crew, and I mean jump how high on crew. I wasn't like camera guy. I was like the director needs a coffee, Terry, get it. But I needed to. I needed to pay off bills.

I thought I'd be playing hockey, man. So that's what happened. And I got in the union through stunts, and then Letterkenny found out I had no tooth. They were looking for a Newfoundlander, right? I went out to spit and chinkers in one of those shows talking about it. I can't remember which one.

And then shortly after I got a phone call, and they said, hey, this is Letterkenny casting. You still got that tooth missing? I said, yes, I do. Thank you, Jason. Unbelievable. Terry, I have so many things to say. First off, love your coat,

love your career. you played for my dad my dad loved you you know we have all these wonderful ties I just want to go back to one thing you just said do you know the name Danny Virtue at all stunt guy he was in stunts anyway with Jason Momoa yeah yeah my uncle's writing his book

right now and we were talking about this so did you do training to do stunts I did so he had a guy with him over in Newfoundland we did frontier in Newfoundland the last season we did it over in northern England and Scotland so it was nice enough to take me over there and do that

Danny was there I think Mamoa did some stuff up here in a show called C maybe and then something out west the guy he took over to Newfoundland's name was Todd Scott and Todd I didn't have much time Mamoa really knew my story I mean

he'd read my book my book had just come out of tales of a first round nothing he's from Des Moines Iowa he's got really humble beginnings and he read the book and I taught him to skate he knew what to play roller hockey he didn't run to skate and stop so that's what happened and then they figured an easy route to get me in Because they're not going to take a locations guy over to Europe.

He figured a way to do that would be fighting stunts. So honestly, we went in, without getting in all the specifics, like three weeks of hard training he put me through. Most of the guys were with Lord of the Rings, Kim, Fabian, a few more. So I just immersed myself. So he said, look, this is what we're going to do on this show frontier and just learn how to take a fall, you know, where the camera's got to be for your head to move,

and all those things, and it was a crash course. But I took it really seriously because I knew, man. It was a year before that, I was up here, man, walking around, getting odd jobs, 2016 or 17. I come in and I used to go on with Bob McCowan here and there. And then I'd come out, and then, like, for a while, I had nowhere to stay here. It was wild.

The whole thing was wild. Lost my house at home, came up, and then, Mamoa at my hour. I was married with kids. That's the thing. I had to do something for them. It wasn't all bad. I just mean there was a bad period there. I needed money.

And Mamoa helped me out. So that was it. I learned basically to do fight stunts. And when you got that, you can springboard. And the stunt payday is a good day. So I was basically traveling all over, working crew, and then hopefully getting a stunt for a day. You're watching and listening to Terry Ryan, former national hockey leaguer and now current star of the show, Shorzie. So tomorrow night, like it's your cast, but they're all like ex players.

We got the Nolan brothers. Like, all of you guys are going to skate circles around me, man. And first and foremost, how does, how do you guys go from being a TV cast to now doing a circuit now? You've been in Long Island. You were in Detroit the other day, Toronto tomorrow night. How did this start and how's it going? I tell you how it started. It started just last year, like, Letter Kenny do as series, like they go coast to coast,

both countries doing like a stage show kind of thing, right? So like a play, like a series of skits. Well, like Letterkenny. So we were in Jared Keseau's ear. He played Jersey. We were in his ear last August. Season four was mostly summertime. There wasn't much hockey in it.

So we were talking to Jared going, hey, where's our slice of that pie, man? Like take us on tour. Never thinking much of it. And then in September he said, you know what? We can do this. We should play hockey. And it was within two months. They set it all together.

When we came out in Detroit a year ago, We played in Detroit three nights ago. Now a year ago, we were there as well. That was our first game. And we came out for a warm-up, and we looked up, and we could see, like, you know, five, eventually 12,000 people came to the game. We were like, okay, this is way bigger than we thought, way bigger. When he first said, we'd be playing, honestly,

I thought we'd be playing firefighters in Miramishi. You know what I mean? You're playing in Scotia Arena. I just mean, like, I thought it would be those kind of alumni games. But the show caught on, guys, and I don't know. I've done a lot of these things, you know, some kind of, a lot of things, it's great. People give me credit for trying. A lot of it was gone to my head, man.

I had to make money for my family for me, and I got presented opportunities. So this stand-up comedy and everything, I never wanted to do any of that. It just kind of led to something. But when this started happening, we could sense there was something really different. And we used to joke about it because we're on set. We're playing this hockey team, but we all played hockey. Some of us played together. We all played against each other at some point or at least knew of each other.

So now we're getting to go out and actually play games and go on tour. It's so wild. And when I got hurt when I was 22, 23, you know, it killed me more than anything. I mean, I didn't even money and everything was just totally secondary. I wanted to play in the NHL. I work so hard. I thought, you know, I'm going to get there. So I'm such a hard where I'm going to get there.

I'm not going to miss this opportunity. And then I just kind of burned myself and I felt so bad. And now at 48 to still be going out there and playing an NBA. H.L rings with thousands of tens of thousands. I mean, I don't know. So for all of, I mean, that's on my own unique story, but we're all aware of that. None of us expected this. And now to get to go out and we felt like a team, but now we really are. And more than anything, these are friends for life. Like anything, Nick, you want a Stanley Cup, of all the teams you played on, you know, that's what we feel like. We feel like in the acting world, we got as

lucky as someone playing hockey. Not that it's all lucky, you worked hard. I'm saying to get there and win the Stanley Cup like we got on. I know how hard it is to be an actor and then to get on a regular show, a regular show that's quotable and then a regular show that's quotable that people like is incredibly rare and we got to do it

and now we get to go out. And it's such a great vibe because people, it's the only situation I've ever been in that people are chairing for both teams. I don't know about that. I'm really looking forward to it, Terry. Listen, I haven't felt this way

since the night before I had to go face. probert and kosher in Detroit, man. I'm feeling it right now. You got a little pressure on me. Well, I can imagine what those nights would be. I mean, I played in the Western League in the 90s. I played enough pro, but Nick, really, your resume, and especially coming out of junior with as big of a goal score as you were

and to, you know, adapt and then nothing. I appreciate that, pal. I've got respect for your career, man. I really do. Thank you, Terry. And let me say we talked a little bit about. the NHL alumni and we're awfully proud of you as well my friend yeah man way to go post career right post career it's all about us looking after each other after it's done and uh

we're thrilled for you and i look forward to seeing it more tonight thanks i really appreciate it and listen now just a big shout out to your dad he was real good to me i chose to go back to st johns and play in my hometown but he was an awesome guy uh glad to hear it terry thanks for your time today man congrats on all your success terry ryan everybody former national high hockey leager and now superstar television what did we have him on at at 535 we should have led at 535 and had the full hour

with Terry yeah it would have been fun he's the man I think that's fantastic great stuff I met him at the cons my dinner last year came up to me it was like yeah I like I love your show I was like you love my arch it was like it was really amazing

and we had a conversation we talked the whole night crushed a few beers just got her Amazing stories. And you didn't get a cameo out of that? I'm telling you. On what? On his show? Sure is he.

I'm not going on there. But do they need a cookie. They need a cookey fan. Just a crazy fan. Just a big guster to grease in the final episode or something. Listen, I'll happily be a mark. Somebody, if Terry needs to grease somebody along the end, who is the crazy fan in Major League two, I think?

Was it Randy Quaid where he spent three quarters of the show, talking about the Cleveland Indians like they stink they're going to be brutal they stink that's me yeah that's literally me right equate yeah whatever whatever whatever so you got to get alley tickets okay buddy you got to get it for it like I don't like yeah there's lots of people in line but like trying I'll try okay I'll try okay I'll try hey one thing I will say and we're doing our thankful stuff off the top and not to get too cheesy but I am really thankful for you guys i was wondering if i was really hoping none of us would have to say that and i'm just thankful for like you know i just hearing terry ryan talk about his career and just like how appreciative he is

it's just like people i i am just literally a dumb fan that ended up here and people come up to me on the street and tell me they love what i say and i get to do this with you guys every day i'm truly thankful i'm grateful too so you know we're lucky and that's the one thing about terry and shorzy like they're a tight-knit group like nobody has to tell me that you you can see it yeah you know and i mean i i follow on Instagram. Those guys are always together. They always look like they're having a blast together. She's like, they're the, they're the dudes.

And no matter how dumb you sometimes come across, we love you. Thank you. Right, J.B? Thank you. I am very dumb, though. No matter how. No, no, you're not dumb. Just have some dumb ideas. You just sound dumb.

I just play a dumb guy on TV. Oh, we didn't get to put. Very male way to end that. We got to, I guess we'll play it tomorrow. We didn't get to play the Boubley thing. Oh, yeah, Boubley on our buddy Frank. So Rovelli. Wow, he's just, it was kind of funny.

It was a one- It was a kind of a one-liner. All right, whoa, whoa, whoa, tomorrow, we'll save it. Brady Kachuk's back tomorrow. Brady Kachuk, good news for the Ottawa Senators fans. Brady, by the way, he's been pretty entertaining on that podcast. I would say, you thought Matthew was going to be the guy? Brady's the guy.

Clips haven't totally sucked. No. That's the best compliment I'll give them. Brady's been good. Yeah. Boys. They do it all. They do it all.

And we try to do it all, and we accomplish. Nothing, but beats sitting at home doing nothing. It does, yeah. Our thanks to Terry Ryan, who's in town for a Shorzie cast game against our Toronto Maple Leaf alumni. Tickets still available, Sammy, I think. And Leafs line tomorrow, 416, 413, 4141. Leafs line tomorrow, please call, leave a message.

For our friends south of the border, enjoy the rest of your Thanksgiving, and we're back tomorrow on the Rail Kipper and Bourn Show. Thank you.