Real Time with Bill Maher - Ep. #444: Donna Brazile, Sarah Silverman

Episode Date: November 11, 2017

Bill’s guests are Donna Brazile, Sarah Silverman, Michael Moore, and Chris Matthews. (Originally aired 11/10/17) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Moore. We're here on a great night. I love you too. I love. So much love. All right, let's make a competition out of it.

But what a night, what a week. Welcome to another edition of Who Pulled Their Dick Out this week. It's so ironic. Trump is in China because here in America, this is clearly the year of the dog. Let's start just in the podcast. political room. Judge Roy Moore, you're following this? He's the Republican, up for

probably going to be the senator from Alabama. Okay. Turns out when he was in his 30s and a district attorney he got with a 14-year-old, this is the allegation, but there's a lot of people backing it up, had an inappropriate relations with three other teenage girls. I mean, inappropriate for our state. Or other states. But anyway, so so, so top Republicans are now speaking. out. Against the women. No, really, Sean Hannity

had to apologize for saying it was consensual, and then had to explain to the other guys at Fox News what consensual means. Alabama Republican State Representative Ed Hedry said that he wants to prosecute the women.

He said, you can't be a victim 40 years later. Roy Moore himself says this is all just fake news, liberal media bullshit. Of course, he said that, wearing a standing in front of Forever 21. That may influence... No.

He's fundraising off of this. People are sending him money. It's like hearing about disaster relief on TV and sending money to the hurricane. But... But nothing beats the defense put up by Alabama State Auditor, Jim Ziegler.

You've heard this as the guy who said, quote, he said, take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager. Joseph was an adult carpenter, and they became parents of Jesus. That's what he said. I mean, using Jesus to justify child molestation, even the Catholics went,

tried it, doesn't work. Also, it's been a while since I've been in catechism, but to my recollection, slight difference, Joseph and Mary didn't fuck. Isn't that the whole point of that story, I recall, is that they

never happen. Okay. No, this Jim Ziegler, he said, he also said, it's just a little bit unusual. He said, there's nothing immoral or illegal here.

It's not like they're lesbians and they kind of... I fucked that joke up. I was supposed to be... It's not like he baked lesbians a wedding cake. Anyway,

yeah, okay. Thank you. But, you know, I have to say, I've got to defend my tribe here a little bit, liberals versus conservatives, because certainly sexual harassment is absolutely the one thing we see now is totally, truly bipartisan. Maybe the last thing that is. But no liberal defended Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey,

who might be going to jail. Anthony Weiner is in jail. Louis C.K., we hear this week, did horrific things. Compare that to true. Trump and Roy Moore. We arrest our alleged rapist. They elect them. I mean,

there's a pig in the White House. He was in Japan this week, and they took him to a sushi place, and they asked if he would like some yellowtail, and he said, sure, what's her name? I mean, he's a pig. He's a pig. Oh, have you been following his trip? Then he went to it. He went

to China. I don't know if the Chinese manipulate their currency, but they'd have to manipulate Donald Trump. I mean, they told him that Obama just got a state visit, but he got a state visit plus. I'm not kidding, you know, with the continental breakfast, the state visit plus.

Nobody knows what that even means, but it completely fooled Trump, and he was just putty in their hand. He's not the best negotiator in America. He's the easiest mark on the used car lot. He left China. He left China

with nothing. When he was writing, it was all about how the Chinese are raping us and cheating us and the trade deficit was a scandal we couldn't live with. Listen, you motherfuckers. He said that to them once in his speech. Listen, you motherfuckers. After a little ass kissing, it was, what's up, motherfuckers?

But, hey, let's up, Barry the lead. I feel better this week than I have in a full year. Democrats finally won some elections. Yeah. The resistance showed up at the polls. New Jersey governorship, Virginia governorships. What happened was Republicans tried a new strategy called Trumpism without Trump. And it backfired horribly. Apparently, Trumpism doesn't do well without Trump. With the Republican base, when you say fuck Mexicans, you have to mean it. Don't phone in your racism. That was their message.

And this wasn't just in Virginia that they won. They won in New Jersey. Seattle elected the first lesbian mayor. A Latino single mom is the mayor in Topeka, Kansas. Refugee from Liberia is the mayor in Helena, Montana. The Virginia state legislature could fall. Washington state legislature. And this is all being chalked up to a radical new democratic strategy called actually voting.

Some of the races played out like liberal revenge fantasy. I mean, a shill for the NRA was beaten by the boyfriend of a shooting victim. A Republican who, the Republican in Virginia, who wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill, was beaten by a trans woman. He tried to tell her where to go to the bathroom, and she said, actually, I think I'll be using your office. Yes. Yes.

Just like with her gender reassignment surgery, she made sure America has one less dick. Okay. We got a great show. Michael Moore and Chris Matthews are here, and a little later we'll be speaking with my great friend, Sarah Silverman, is back saying. But first up, she's the former Democratic National Committee chair

whose new book is hacks the inside story of the break-ins and breakdowns that put Donald Trump in the White House. Donna Brazil! Thank you. I'm so glad you feel free enough here on HBO to call me that. I just called him a bad motherfucker. I've been waiting to use that word on television

for, what, 15 years? Absolutely. You are one bad one, too. I mean... Thank you. I'm taking that as a compliment. It is a copy. I appreciate that. Well, I'm your fan, too. In fact, I feel... I saw you took a lot of crap

for this book, and I thought, wow, I have so much in common with you because I think we both do the same thing. We want our side to win. So we criticize it when necessary. And some people don't like any criticism. That's correct. But we're doing it. It's not like criticizing the Republicans.

That's a different kind of criticism. It's tough love. It's tough love. Get your shit together. Right, right. And they need it. We gotta win. Right. Tuesday was a great day. By the way, it was a blue way. Blue way. And you know, Bill, I've heard you say, this before, but it's so true. We cannot

just compete in the so-called blue states. We have to compete in all 50 states. We won in Georgia. That was tremendous. A Liberian mayor, and I'm going to Montana now. I got to check that out. You know? I mean, that is just

I play these cities as a comic. You know, when you're in the cities, it's always great. It's always great. It's about city and country. Absolutely. It's really not about the state itself. But, you know, we had a great turnout on Tuesday. In Virginia alone, the minority turnout increased by 5%. Yeah. 33% of all voters were people

of color. That is, if we continue this trend, next year, we're going to see a blue wave all across America. So, so why is the Democratic approval like the lowest in a generation? It's very low. Correct. Why do you think that? Both political parties are underwater simply because, I think the American people are tired of Washington, D.C.

They're tired of failed policies. They really would like to see both parties get something done. Our numbers are far better than the Republicans. The Republicans are as popular as a root canal. But... Wait, you sort of lumped both parties there under the rubric of failed policies. I would think we would want to...

When Washington is not working, the American people... The American people disapproved. But whose policies have failed? Not Obamacare. No. Is not a failure. And I think that people are pissed off with the Democrats because they, a lot of that I think Disbrel was coming from Democrats themselves.

So we're saying, we don't stand up for our stuff. Correct. I mean, I heard Trump say over and over and over these last months that Obamacare is a failure, it's a mess, it's a disaster, it's a disgrace. And I don't hear Democrats full-throatedly saying, that's just plainly not true. It's not a... In fact, Obamacare enrollees

spiked lately because they're afraid it's going to go away. And open enrollment, by the way, continues throughout the next couple of weeks. You saw what happened in Maine, when the voters there supported policies to expand Medicaid to over 89,000 people. Now, I don't know if the governor will sign that bill because he, I mean, that ballot initiative. But people are upset across the country. They're upset at Democrats and Republicans. Our approval ratings are a little bit better.

our generic ballotin for next year is far greater than the Republicans, but they want Democrats to deliver on more than just talking points. They want the Democratic Party, as you mentioned, to stand up, to fight for these policies, to fight for Obamacare. I think you're going to see a new Democratic Party

emerge in 2018. But let's not buy in... Okay, but I've got to push back a little bit on... I feel like you're a little bit buying into their narrative of a pox on both their houses, and it's just failed Washington. And then people don't have to look

specifically into the issues and what they stand for. I mean, their policies have failed. Trickled on economics is a failure. Correct. Okay. They just passed that banking bill that said people can't get together in class action suits to sue banks. That's correct. No Democrat voted for it.

I know. Steve Bannon, who pretends to be a populist, wanted this. But are there people out there in America going, please, take away our right to sue the banks? I mean, you've heard Elizabeth Warren. you've heard Chuck Schum, I mean, Democrats, Chris Murphy, they all went to the floor. They all went out across the country. Just like when the Republicans tried to repeal and replace Obamacare, I think you're hearing the Democratic Party make a bunch of noise.

Unfortunately, Bill, when you have the bullet pulpit, when the Republicans control most state's houses across the country, often voters don't hear exactly what we stand for. But it's coming through, and I think they'll hear more of the next year. Okay. Next year is a big year. 360 days. Get ready. Yeah.

No, it's a very encouraging week. Absolutely. First of all, I feel like we spent all of 2017, still stuck in 2016. I agree. Can we put the Bernie-Hillary thing aside that great divide? I mean, that's what all the controversy was with your book, you know, that the elections where the primaries were rigged. And, you know, it doesn't matter, first of all, now.

It's over. And also the policy differences between the Bernie folks and the Hillary folks. were really small to begin with. That's another thing that could hold us back. Well, you know, Bill, after a presidential campaign, we should assess what happened. The Republicans did an autopsy report. I assumed that the Clinton campaign

would do their form of autopsy. But as chair of the Democratic Party, I felt the responsibility to tell my story. I was chair. I became chair because the party was hacked. The country was hacked. And so this notion that somehow I cannot tell my story, the story of the Democratic National Committee

in a year that Donald Trump won by less than 100,000 votes. The party needs to examine it, and then I believe we can heal. You cannot heal an open wound by just dressing it, you know, dressing it. You have to analyze it, talk about it, all of it, and then I think we can move forward.

Okay, so I thought the most surprising thing I read in the book was when you said after Hillary's shocking collapse, which I did not see as a shocking collapse, she had pneumonia, right? She stumbled on the curb. I mean, how grueling a campaign is. I'm surprised they don't do it once a week.

Look, I've been involved in a lot of campaigns. 21, I have a lot of campaigns on my belt, but I was worried about Hillary. But you said you thought of replacing her at that point. I didn't know it was in your power, first of all, to replace her. I got magical powers. I can turn your hair back to the collar it was 10 years ago. I got magical powers.

You know, us Catholic girls, we've been known to, you know, rub our hands through things and make it a little bigger. Let's not be talking about gray hair. Okay. No, I'm not talking about gray hair? I might lend you some of this stuff I have now. No, but look, Hillary Clinton, when that video went viral, I began to receive calls from not just the media, but people within the Democratic Party. And as chair of the party, the convention rules as well as our charter, says the chair, shall confer with. Now, I kept my own counsel, and the next day I had someone from the Clinton campaign

with me to dampen these rumors. But yes, I had to keep my counsel about what would happen if Hillary didn't get up, if she wasn't able to recover and get back on the road. She did. I went back on TV. I tapped those rumors down. And God knows, I wanted Hillary to run all the way to the White House because that was my intentions when I became chair of the party. Okay. Well, we need you. The party needs you. Your country needs you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for writing this book.

And keep at it. You go, girl. All right, brother. Donna Brazel. I love you. I love you. All right. Okay, about that.

Hey. There they are. Okay. How are you doing? It's the Democratic All-Star team today. He is the host of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews and the author of Bobby Kennedy arranging stir.

Chris Matthews. And he's the Oscar-Woming filmmaker whose latest weekly TV series, Michael Moore, live from the apocalypse, debuts next year on TNC. Okay. Well, again, apologies to Republicans. We do not have a good representative tonight. And it's a terrible night for that because, as they say, I feel better than I have in one year.

Seriously. I jotted down a few of the reasons. College-educated suburban men have turned on Trump. The tax plan, I think, is going to be disastrous. for them. Trump will say something stupid again and more people will hate him. The woman issue, Russia, Roy Moore. Chris, I know you're

a Churchill lover. I tweeted this out last. I made it be think of it that election night when the Democrats won when Churchill said, now is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning. Is this the end of the

beginning of the Trump? I'll tell you. And I'll say this, I've been watching politics all my life. And One thing I've learned is when the galloping horse of history rides by, you better get on the saddle. This is the time to run if you're a Democrat. This is next year. It's going to be the greatest opportunity. Anybody watch right now is thinking maybe you're running for office someday.

This is your year. It's going to happen. I don't care if you're gay, straight, male, female, any ethnic group, trans, anything you are, the public wants that they want to say no to this guy, Trump. And you can be the yes. You feel that way? Yes. You feel great?

Like, I'll go even further. Anybody who's watching it home, seriously, this is the time. People need to run. Don't leave this up to Democratic Party hacks in your local area to run the same old, same old. Now's the time. This is it. Everybody off the bench.

Everybody, everybody. And look, if Trump taught us one thing, it's what our grandmother's told us that anybody could become president. Right. Certainly, if anybody now becomes president, we now know that any of you can be, be a state legislature, a state senator, a state, you name it.

What I worry about is that since there are no more facts or truth, that people can't tell the difference between what's real and what's not. And you see this with the Roy Moore situation. All the people defending him are saying, if it's true, because they know true doesn't exist anymore. You know when it's going to be true? When they see the new taxes, that's what they're going to see it. Right.

This is the biggest screw job in history, the Trump's the vote for Trump. All the tax breaks are for people with huge amounts of money. You have to have to have $22 million to give your kids the benefit from this and an estate tax thing. You've got to have a pass-through situation, so you get the state and local tax deductions the average person doesn't get. It's a terrible job for anybody who makes less than a million. Right. So let me ask about that because...

It's true. It's aimed at the very top. The Republicans talk about closing loopholes, and it sounds like something noble. But it's never loopholes for big business. The loopholes, here's what they... They're going after everybody's deductions that people love. They think that the suburban guys are mad at them now. Whether they take away state and local income taxes,

that's a big deduction that regular people have. That's going to go away. Student loan interest. Losses from disasters are when your bank becomes insolvent. Moving expenses, alimony, out-of-pocket medical. School supplies. These motherfuckers have to use... Donna Brazile's word.

Have the nerve to go after school supplies. The teachers... I remember when it was a scandal just when the teacher did that, when the school was so broke that the teacher... Had to pay. Now they've capped that at $250.

If you over that, you're on your own. Can't deduct it as a business expense. Did you see what they're doing? You suppose, like most people, go to college now. I even did it back in the old days, you borrow. You borrow to get through school.

Maybe your parents can help you. You get a job. You still have to borrow. And you've got to pay interest. And the interest rates... I was paying three. It's about eight now. Now they say you're not going to get a tax deduction for the 8th,

but if you have kids to send the prep school, you write the whole thing off. Do you realize they're taking the money in this deal from the person who's working their way through school and has to pay interest, taking back that deduction and paying a complete deduction for the rich parent who sends their kid to chote or someplace like that? What a deal.

And, yeah, no, I also, I think you said this at the beginning. It's important to remember before we gloat too much about Tuesday before we start the end zone dance on the two-yard line, like maybe a few people did last year. I think it's not us. Not us. Not us. Not you and me.

Not us. We tried to warn people on the show. We were booed on this stage and we tried to warn people that we predicted it. That we're on this show. Yeah. And the audience booed and I said, nobody gets booed on this show except you, you know. It's like... Gotta hear the truth.

Yes, we have to... And so, while we must revel in what happened on Tuesday, we have to understand that his supporters still support him. He hasn't lost that much support amongst his supporters. So what you said at the beginning is true. What happened was our side showed up. And that has to be our mantra for the next 360 days. We have got to show up.

But also... And we've got it. They will if we run the right candidates. But the one thing that he's had is the economy. I mean, another thing, again, not to get too optimistic, but that I thought was different about Tuesday, is people decency sort of, for the first time I ever saw it, trumped economics.

Even though the economy is good, they were like, no, this guy is just too far. Charlottesville, feuding with the war widow. This is not a personality that wears well over time. And what I would suggest to people is that, That's correct. And they, and go ahead. No, you go. I was gonna, I, that, no, you go.

Please, Bill, you go. No, that, that, do not spend your energy trying to convince Trump voters, who are hardcore Trump voters. It's a waste of time. If they're still for Trump after Charlottesville, after these first 11 months, it's a lost cost. Spend the energy on the 90 million who didn't vote. The college. the energy on the people that we could reach out to. But the college edict, the big lynchman to me to is it was college educated white men.

Enough of them were like, Trump, you know, we need a change, let's try this. And after a year, they're like, no. And this paradise papers thing that came out, do you know what this is? There was a bank in Bermuda where rich, super rich people hide their money. Their records were leaked. Okay. And it's amazing. Tim Cook of Apple, you know Apple, right there, makers.

of wristwatches for dorks. And the most profitable company in the world, they... Okay, Tim Cook angrily told Congress last year, we pay all the taxes we owe every single dollar. We don't stash money on some Caribbean island. No,

they stashed it on an island in the English Channel. They moved it. It had it in Ireland. And then Ireland changed the law, and they moved it to Jersey. Not Snooki's Jersey. Jersey, the island... So he's full of shit. And somehow...

What he's trying to say is that they've got it in an island in the English Channel. There's no beach. There's no sun. They're not going there to relax and have a good time with their money. They have to go and stand in a long line and the drizzle and the rain and the bog.

It's $235 billion. And they're worried about it. And that's why they have to take away your mortgage deduction. Yeah, you notice that they're very nationalistic except about the money. Right. When it comes to the money, they're overseas. Okay, can I ask about Roy Moore because, you know...

No relation. I know. Okay. But before this event and him running for the Senate, what he was known for was he was the judge in Alabama who insisted on putting the Ten Commandments in front of his courthouse, which is just so crazy on the face of it.

But okay. And he was represented. or I think disbarred or something, they didn't like that. Somebody, even in Alabama. Okay, but I have to say, for the Ten Commandment guy, I went through the commandments again today.

I believe you read those commandments more than anybody in this audience. But thou shalt have no other gods before you. Okay. Shall not make any graven image. Shouldn't take the name of the Lord in vain. Remember the Sabbath. Those are the top four. You know what's not on the list?

Torture, slavery, rape, genocide, animal cruelty, child abuse, racism, sexism. You know, if Roy Moore had said to the girl, God damn it, Jesus Christ, I'd like you to touch my dick, that would be a sin. So, I'm just asking you guys,

I mean, it's your holy book. When it's this wrong about the big top ten list, what's the deal? All right, all right. So he's referring to the two Irish Catholics. Here, right. Here. But because we saw religiousists, we know that this Irish Catholic went to Catholic schools also.

By the way, you read the Protestant Ten Commandments. Yeah. We do it. We have... Yeah, our number four... We have the images. Our number four is to honor your parents. We have the images.

Okay. What's wrong with that, Bill? Number five is don't kill anybody. Number six is, do not be caught in the same room with Harvey Weinstein. It's like, what? What? No, I get... I'm just asking.

Well, we now know what the Republican age of consent is. All right. So, uh... Let's bring out Sarah. Shall we? She is an actress and comedian who hosts a weekly talk show on Thursdays on Hulu. It's amazing. I love it.

It's called I Love You America. Please welcome America's girlfriend. They wish Sarah Silverman. Every one-sided panel. It's a very one-sided show. It really is. It's not right. My favorite.

But you knew what I was saying about the Ten Commandments, right? You've made that joke, too. Oh, is that what just a big reaction was? Because I was getting my hair tweaked and I go, what do you say? What do you say? And then the guy next to me goes,

well, they rerun it all week. I go, this doesn't fucking help me now. I'm about to go. Okay. All right, let's move on to I love your show. First of all, I love that you love America. And you really do. I do.

You really do. You're not faking it. Yeah, I love it. That's why I wanted to be the best of the new. First of all, it's such a great show, because I find it, I love it such as a hybrid. You know, that you do a lot of different things. I think this is a show you were always meant to do.

I love the white guy at the desk bit. It's just... He's got a great arc coming up. It's basically the... Tell him what that is. It's just very funny, the concept. Oh, well, you know, the show is basically... I like to think of it as like an R-rated kids show for adults.

It's based on the tenets of my hero, Mr. Rogers. If it's mentionable, it's manageable. But like we can say fucking pussy and stuff. And so when things get a little far out, because, you know, we like our nighttime TV to be comfortable. Like, for me, it's law and order. I like it. I know it.

I need to fall asleep to the sounds of softcore murder ripped from the headlines of 1993. That's just me. For other people, it's late-night talk show. So we have a white guy at a desk. Like we can always go to when things are a little too far out and he'll be like, well, that just happened.

And he's great, but we've had a falling out and there's a whole arc. He basically follows the arc of the disenfranchised white male. And we love him. So it's going to be interesting, I think. So I saw the first four. There's a fifth one.

Is that, was that last night? Oh, one, two, three, four, five, yeah. What's that about? Well, actually, it's about fear and how we can be manipulated by fear. I say, well, one thing I've learned from doing this show, you know, I'm not turning towards you because backstage they go,

don't twist towards him, go forward and then just look your head up. I don't know if I can do that. We want our guests to feel natural. That's what, yeah, I'm actually, I'm off my line, too. I'm supposed to be like this. Yeah, so...

And I love that you visit people. See, you're doing the one thing. Wait, I never answered my question. I want to say... What was the question? What's the fifth episode of life? Oh, right, I talk about fear. So what I've learned doing this show is that people don't change from facts.

You can throw facts in their faces and poll numbers, and it doesn't change people's beliefs. And we're the same way. We are all this way. What changes people are feelings, right? And that's the way the most effective politicians have tapped into our feelings. With Obama, it was our sense of hope.

And with Trump, maybe something more powerful, he tapped into our fears and our rage, and he gave us a place to put it. And that place was each other. And it's very powerful to have a divided nation. They want us divide it because we're easily controlled that way. And he's in bed with the oligarchs,

the people, the billionaires that control shit and control, influence policies, control politicians. So when you say, oh, the Bernie people and the Hillary people, and they hate each other, and the right hates the left, this is all part of the oligarchy's plan. You know what I mean? To be a little cynical about it. Divide and conquer.

So we need to try the best we can to see ourselves in each other. And that's what I love about this. You do the one thing that people should do. I try to do it sometimes, but I don't have the patient. It's a practice. Which is, like, listen to people, listen to other points of view. And you don't judge it. I mean, you go down there in the first one and talk to these other crab fishermen, I think, in Louisiana.

Okay. Hi, Blaze. I love you. They're not watching this show. No, they're not watching the show. Not at all. Sorry. But maybe you can help them steal HBO.

Anyway, they're not rednecks. I mean, they're... What? I didn't say anything. Right, no. They didn't strike me that way. They were very liberal on the gay marriage issue. Mm-hmm.

And you're very understanding. They're all Trump voters because they want to change. There's a lot of misinformation. Oh, their insurance? Yes, the one place where I have to push back about the facts thing is like, okay, they didn't like Obama and they want Trump, but they don't really know where they're getting their health insurance, which you think is such a personal issue,

that that's one you could get right. That's where it would be very hard not for me to yell at them. It was hard not to say anything. Right. I made, I kind of was like, but, you know, I left them open, you know, and people. But can't you just tell them that you're... With my facts and their facts, I mean, I will say that... But there are facts, and the facts are they got their insurance from the guy who they hate,

and then they voted for the guy who's going to take it away from them. I know. That's... So I know. Making people feel stupid even with true things doesn't change that. I know. It's an impossible. They're more changed with that first hug, hello.

I'm sure. It's more about getting people's porcupine needles down. Right. You know, which is, I think, what I mean is defenses. But I think of it more visually like that, which happens more in the first hug hello than with a big argument from a smarty pants me. Okay.

She goes in there with love to people that disagree, that she disagrees with, but that goes so much further to getting them to listen maybe to a fact or two down the road. And they'll say, you know, that woman that was here, the way she was with us, and now she's saying this, we should listen to her. They had never met a Jew, right? No, they had never, they had to Google Jew. Listen, there aren't Jews there. This isn't anything they did wrong. There aren't Jews there. Right. Have you met in Eskimo? Is Eskimo a racist word?

No, and that's... Jesus Christ. I'm trying to be mindful. Okay, let's get into it. Let's... Okay, so, no, I think we're both on the same page there. There are words that we both used to use. All comedians did 10, 15 years ago,

and we don't use them anymore because we don't need them. They didn't really... Surely we're more creative. We can think of other words to say besides that's so gay. Right. Right. Sure. Okay. Although that's...

And... And 10 years from now, we'll look back on this show and go, Can you believe we said X, Y, and Z? And that's okay. But you can take it too far, don't you think? I mean, you love Steve Martin, right? Okay, I know, yes. Show a little bit of the King Tut thing, because I want to...

Move to Babylon. This is King Tut. Remember this? Now, when it was a young man, he never thought it's... Okay. They objected to this at Reed College. read college what you know the college it's important

I know the idea right that this so what is this is racist against Egyptian well they said they said it's like making a song just littered with the N word everywhere

the Egyptian garb is racist as well the gold face of the saxophone dancer is an exhibition of blackface what the fuck is wrong with people what it's King Tut it's a bit it's

Steve Martin, it's... I don't have the answer, but I will say a couple of things. One, I'm trying very hard not to roll my eyes at the youth, at our youth, being progressive, because they tend to be on the right

side of history. Two, whatever you, I worship Steve Martin, I hold him no account to this, whatever. But we also know that comedy, what's great about it and what's frustrating about it is that it is not Evergreen.

There are things I've said in my comedy that I'm sure will be held against me, you know, that I don't stand by, that I'm embarrassed by. But when he did that bit, King Tut was 1732 years old, and now he was 1772 years old. So that 40 years has it really,

I don't think that Egyptians... Okay, but it leads to that bigger question I keep asking, I asked Donna, why is the Democratic brand so toxic? I mean, I can name at least 20 states where I don't care what you are. If you have the D next to your name, they will not vote for you. And if you have the R next to your name, they will. That's why Roy Moore might still get in.

How did the Democratic brand get so tainted? They would literally rather collude with Russia. Because they weren't, first of all, because so many Democratic so-called leaders haven't been willing to stand up and just be leaders and fight for the progressive things that Democrats have always stood for. Beginning, 30 years ago, they started trying to sound like Republicans thinking that's how they were going to get elected. And that's how they lost more and more seats.

Obama came along and said, I'm running as myself. And you went in that voting booth on that day in 2008, and you saw his name, and it said Barack Hussein Obama. And how many Democratic Party, I would love to know, hacks tried to convince him to drop the Hussein off the ballot. And if you could, we could just call you Barry? you'll win for sure. And it's like,

it's like we need Democrats that will run and be authentic and not phony baloney crappolony candidates. And people have had it. I think another part of it is, you know, when you piss on somebody for about 50 years, they get the message.

And referring to the white working class as deplorables and bomb my heroes saying things like they cling to their guns and their religion, condescension works. and when you hear there's a party on, but you haven't been invited to it for about 50 years, you get the message you're not wanted. And they got that message across.

We can disagree, but I think it's a powerful fact that they said, okay, we've got the minorities on the side, we've got the rich people on our side, the sophisticated Hollywood people in our crowd. So why we're going to ignore the rest of it? Hillary is referring to the racism as being deplorable. And it was one of those moments, though, that she finally just said what was in her mind.

Maybe in her mind. And it was great to say it. We never quote the second half of her sentence, which I think was the wrong part. She called them deplorables, and she said they were irredeemable. That part isn't true. No, you can never have the attitude

that people are irredeemable. And you've proven it on your show. So that's where the disconnect happened. But I can tell you, in Flint, Michigan, 8,000 people voted for Obama in 2012 decided not to vote last November. She lost Michigan by 10,000 votes. 8,000 decided not to show up and vote.

80,000 Michigan. shiganders showed up to vote and left the top box blank, mostly Democrats, didn't vote for president. And you're so right. What is so exciting about Tuesday is that people deputize themselves to take... And I hope next time we have a field,

a great field. I always said, I love Gavin Newsom, I love Elizabeth Warren should run. You know who should also run? Bernie Sanders. Christopher Plummer is 87. He just took over Kevin Spacey's role in that movie. 87. If Bernie feels good, he should run again.

And if Bernie doesn't run... And Jason Kander, who's half his age. If Bernie doesn't run, Christopher Plummer should play him and run. Christopher Plummer has got to play everybody now. Let me just say something because we had a canon. I just wrote the book about the guy.

And Bobby Kennedy was killed. Everybody remembers the train ride coming up down through New Jersey. And there were white guys there. Poor as hell white people. Real old. I'm talking about poor white people with dirty faces, kids with no shirts on a nickel, saluting like man with affectionate patriotic fear. African-Americans singing Battle Hymn of the Republic spontaneously.

It's possible to bring back the white working class with the black working class and middle class. You can do it if you appeal to both groups. Kennedy would go into towns like Gary, Indiana, which were tough towns that were changing, towns losing their industry, African-Americans moving in poor people, and he would ride through town in an open convertible with Richard Hatch for the first black mayor and Tony Zale, the white middleweight next to him, to say, I'm with both of you. We're going to get this thing together.

And I think politicians do not do that anymore. They do not try to unite. They try to divide. And Trump's just the worst of them. But the others do it, too. They love the fight because you get more money that way. He's saying the Democrats are too. I'm sorry, you're wrong.

When they said, when they went out there, when Obama went out there up on Knob Hill in San Francisco. And the only reason we know about it was just somebody there with a tape. And he said all those, we know those people out there. poor benighted people, they cling to their religion. He didn't say it like. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. You're exaggerating.

No, you're taking it out of context. Okay, all right, defend the left, but it's bullshit. Yes, I am here to defend the left. It's bullshit. And the left, because when we were left, that's when we wanted. But the fact of the matter is that there's a reason why all those white working guys people voted for a bad candidate, and you're not going to, you've got to do what Sarah's doing. Don't dump on them.

Love them a little. Okay. Because that's how you might get them back. But you're not going to get them back by dumping on the more. Here's an issue for the Democrats' guns. We had a terrible shooting this week. We're talking about Bobby Kennedy. It's always with us because we are a unique country with the gun.

And when you yell at the gun nuts for being gun nuts, they just say, wait a second, I'm not a nut. I'm going to vote for Donald Trump. I think it's a follow-the-money kind of thing. I'm sorry. No, tell me the solution because that's what I'm wanting. I don't have a solution, but I do have this. You know, when every time of...

a plane crash happens, flight, air travel gets safer. Because we learn from every mistake that happened and we make sure it doesn't get repeated. And that's not happening with mass shootings. And it's because the, I believe, I'm just a Hollywood liberal person. Elitist.

The NRA, I'm an elitist, the NRA needs people to be divided. I don't think we are divided. I grew up with gun owners. I grew up, we learned how to clean a gun at camp in New Hampshire. You know, people hunt, people want to protect their homes. No one wants to take your guns away. The NRA very much wants people to believe that liberals want to take their guns away.

I don't think anyone wants to take your guns away. We want to make it safer. We want to make it harder for people who escape mental institutions to get an automatic weapon. I don't think anyone to get something like that. Yes, please do. That one thing that would be. reduce a lot of gun violence in this country, so if we followed the Canadian example.

Now, what we know is that 99.9% of mass shootings are committed by one gender. I'm not going to name the gender. Right. But generally, when I was watching CNN at 1.30 in the morning and Las Vegas night, they didn't know who was up there, but they were already calling him a gunman.

So they knew the gender, because women don't go to the top of buildings and spray 20,000 people with bullets. Someday. Someday, we're going to get there. We're going to get there. No, you can have that one. Oh, that's a cat.

But in Canada, Canada has greatly reduced their domestic gun violence by they require, if you want to buy a handgun in Canada, you have to get, and this is essentially directed at men, you have to get a waiver from your wife, from your most recent ex-wife,

and it says anyone you're in a conjugal relationship with has to sign off on this before you get a gun. That's brilliant. Isn't that way? It's true. It makes reason for it. It makes sense. One other thing into the mix, though, this guy, the exact opposite.

I mean, at every step of the way, he was triply disqualified from buying a gun. Assault on the wife. Assault on the son. Court marshal. The Air Force did not report his convictions to the National Crime Information Center. And my point is that you can make

all the laws you want. I don't think America is anymore a country with a of competence in the workplace. I notice it just in my life, if one worker has to tell another worker a piece of information or communicate something, it just doesn't happen a lot of the time.

They're on their phone, they're stone, they're distracted. I don't blame them for being unmotivated. Most of these jobs are shitty and boring. But I wouldn't depend. I mean, that's what stuck out about this guy, is that every red flag went up and it just sorry, we just didn't, yeah, I know

we were supposed to bring that over to this guy, and it just didn't happen. Our, um, our, our American flag should just be a red flag at this point. Would that be great? But that's China's flag and Russia. All right, you took that very literally. I was just saying a red flag. I was making a joke

on your, oh, Jesus. We can cut this out. You know, it never stops. Don't cut it out when they rerun the cell. Yeah, yeah. You know, we're going to argue about it here and it's not, you know, I thought in the 60s, when everybody got shot, the Kennedys and King got shot, I wrote my congressman, only time of my life,

Because Johnny Carson, your hero, said, right, your congressman. Wow. And what happened, you know? And Kennedy had spent, Bobby had spent the last week of his life railing against guns and saying, you can't get mail-in-ar guns like the one that killed my brother. And crazy people, and people, criminals shouldn't get guns. But this argument that Trump said, you know, thank God somebody else had a gun. The trouble with that is, yeah, if that somebody else had been cleared,

if that wasn't somebody who wasn't crazy, if somebody wasn't a felon, if they were a good Samaritan, why don't we just let those people have the guns? And that's the argument. It's an insane argument. If more people have guns, it depends who they are. New rules, everybody. I got to go. We're up against the clock. All right, new rule, now that Narcan, the nasal spray that reverses opioid overdoses

will be available without a prescription at Walgreens, they need to make TV commercials with a cute mascot. Opie the Sloth. Voice by famous Oxycontin user Rush Limbaugh. Opiates. Have you barely hanging on? dark hair and get back in the swing of things. You are a bad motherfucker.

Oh, it's going to get worse. New Rule, MS-13, has to decide what their gang sign is. Look at you. You're all throwing up something different. It doesn't make you look like the most feared Latin gang on the planet. Makes you look like white people at a wedding. New Rule, I don't want to hear any Christmas music until after Thanksgiving. And given the barrage of recent news stories,

please just assure me that mommy kissing Santa Claus was consensual. New Roll, someone must explain to the Florida church that apologize for posting, forgiveness is swallowing when you want to spit, that the sign they replaced it with wasn't much better. Chris don't look. New Roll, someone has to tell the British woman who claims she sees the image of Trump

on the inside of her dog's ear, Lift his tail. You'll see Don Jr. Finally, new rule, I don't need to know why Trump fired James Comey. I need to know why everyone else in that administration still has a job. Starting with, the man Donald Trump trusts so much he lets him take out his girlfriend. You know, they call Jared Kushner,

Trump's boy wonder, because what anyone sees in him, boy, really makes you wonder. But Trump thinks so highly of his son-in-law, he didn't just give him one important job, he gave Jared all of them. And so tonight, in commemoration of the one-year anniversary of the day the world came to an end, we thought we'd introduce a new department here called Checking in on Jared.

So let's start with what Trump said to Jared right at the beginning. If you can't produce peace in the Middle East, nobody can. Yeah, because really, who better to earn the trust of the Palestinians than an Orthodox Jew who specializes in aggressively acquiring real estate? But bringing peace to the Middle East was only the beginning of Jared's assignments. You remember the list. Reinventing government. Renegotiating old trade deals. Resetting relations with Mexico and China and Canada.

Solving the opioid crisis. Reimagining the Veterans Administration, rebuilding highways, bridges, dam, sewers, and power lines, and providing broadband internet to everyone in America. And then on Tuesday. So let's check in and see how Jared has done. Trade deals. Well, he's most of the way through NAFTA's Wikipedia page. Reinventing government.

Yeah, that's one way to put it. Roads and bridges. Well, we do look better than we did a year ago. But that's just compared to Puerto Rico. Diplomacy with China, nothing. Diplomacy with Mexico, nothing. Diplomacy with Canada, nothing. Well, wait, no.

Well, Ivanka did I fuck the Prime Minister. But basically nothing. The White House Office on Innovation doesn't even have a website. You know, of all Trump's lies, maybe the most galling is, we're going to get the best people. I know the best people. want the best people. We're going to use our smartest and our best.

We're going to get the best people. We want experts, our finest people. Calm down, bad ape. We get it. Bad ape smart. Pick best people. Like Rick Perry and Ben Carson, the lethal weapon of bovine brain-eating

disease. Nikki Haley was governor of South Carolina. And of course, when you think South Carolina, think United Nations. So Trump made her our U.N. ambassador where she is now dissing the Iran nuclear deal because she has a doctorate in physics.

I'm sorry, did I say doctorate in physics? I met a bachelor's degree in accounting she got so she could help out at her mom's clothing shop. Last week we met Sam Clovis, a right wing talk radio host who Trump nominated to be chief scientist

at the Department of Agriculture despite the fact that he is not a scientist. And his experience with agriculture is limited to the mushrooms growing in the folds of his neck. The new chief at NASA has no science background either. He ran the Air and Space Museum

in Tulsa. He doesn't know how rockets work. He knows how much to charge for a t-shirt that says, I got a peek at Uranus. Victoria Barton, two years ago, was a bartender. Now she does congressional relations for HUD.

And when things are slow, she cuts up limes. She's working alongside Lynn Patton, who came to the attention of Trump's crack team of head hunters because she was Eric Trump's wedding planner. Now, in her defense, she did tell the DJ not to play Moni, Moni. But there's just no rules anymore. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is your boss's niece in charge of office birthdays. But now she's the spokesperson for the most powerful man in the world.

Stephen Miller is the guy who made every creepy thought you ever had a thousand times creepier. Like when you said, let's sneak into the girls' locker room, and he said, and kill them? His job, senior advisor for policy. These are the best people. Hot dog on a stick goes through a more vigorous vetting process.

Because in Trump world, the only qualification that matters is massaging his eating. You do that and you can get Trump to do anything. Just ask these guys. All right, that's our show. I want to thank Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, Sarah Sullivan, and Donna Brazile. What a lineup. Join us now for overtime on YouTube.

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