Real Time with Bill Maher - Ep. #573: Martin Short & Steve Martin, Donna Brazile, Michael Moynihan

Episode Date: August 14, 2021

Bill’s guests are Martin Short & Steve Martin, Donna Brazile, and Michael Moynihan. (Originally aired 8/13/21) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices.... Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maugh. Great to be here. Okay, all right. Okay, you've got a big show. Please. Please.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You don't want to take time away from Martin and Martin. But listen, where our national nightmare is over, Andrew Cuomo has resigned. This was... Well, it's a long time coming, finally happened this week. He said he didn't
Starting point is 00:01:09 want to do it, but he felt he was forced to. And all the women in the office went, yeah. But it's interesting, he said he needs two weeks to get out of town. He's going to be governor for two more weeks. Well, he says there's a lot of things, a lot of loose ends to tie up, you know, administrative duties to
Starting point is 00:01:30 fulfill. He also wants to take one more shot at Teresa, the zoning board. But the other scandal that the Democrats are facing, even though I don't think it's a scandal at all, but Obama had a big birthday party. Yes, because he's successful, and he's 60.
Starting point is 00:01:50 This is America. We don't want to punish success, do we? No, we don't. Anyway, but yes, it's true. In the pandemic, with everything going on, the optics were terrible. And they should have known that. The DJ they hired was named Tone Deaf.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And it was, whoa, what, talk about an A-list crowd. Oh, my gosh. Jay-Z. and Beyonce, Spielberg, Don Cheadle, Tom Hanks, Bradley Cooper, John Legend. This was a swanky party. A lot of them were tipping the valet in Bitcoin. But, you know, it is bad optics because, first of all, a lot of them flew in on private jets, and we got a climate report from the UN, horrible news, as it always is.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Nothing even need to read, right? About the climate. Just walk outside. It's hot. Oh, it's hot. I saw Hunter Biden putting ice on a hooker's nipples, and she was paying him. That's hot, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, poor. Poor Hunter Biden.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They keep releasing these videos of him. Have you seen this? Always with the hookers and the blow. It's sad. Wait, sad? Yes, sad. I'm sorry. Yes, sad.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Very fucking sad is what I meant to say. But really, I mean, Does Hunter Biden ever have sex when he doesn't put it on his laptop? Most people, when they have an orgasm, they say, oh, God, oh God. He says, like, comment, and share. But, yeah, against all the horrible things that are going on, I'm sure you saw the Taliban have now pretty much taken over. Boy, we didn't, we knew it would happen. Not quite this fast.
Starting point is 00:03:49 they're taking over Afghanistan and Biden, I'm telling you, look, you know, he's the one who did this. I think it'll look good in the future, but right now he's under a lot of heat. So many things, COVID spreading and this, he doesn't want to talk about this shit. He had a press conference today.
Starting point is 00:04:05 First thing he said was, so how about all that crack my kid does? He's... But, you know, it's sad. Afghanistan... 20 years. We were there all for nothing. It's like when Sean Hannity went to high school. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:04:29 But, yeah, we'll be living. And I just want to say, you think Albany is a hostile workplace? Yeah. Wait till you see Kabul. Hostile workplace for women. I think I left that part out. Either way it works. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I should have mentioned that. All right. So the 2020 census is out. Listen to this. White people have fallen. for the first time as numbers in this country since 1790. I blame country music. You just can't fuck to it, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But a lot of people see the writing on the wall. Cracker Barrel. Change their name to just Barrel. All right. We got this great show, because Donna Brazell is here and Michael Moynihan. And right now, they are actors, comedians, and, of course, legends who co-star are in the new series,
Starting point is 00:05:36 only murders in the building, premiering on Hulu on August 31st. Martin, Short and Steve Martin. Oh, my gosh. Well, my God. What have we done to deserve that kind of reaction other than provide decades of quality entertainment? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And this is the first time I've done your show, and I love your show. Thank you. You've moved to HBO, which is fantastic. I mean... That was, yes, 20 years ago. I get it. But I'm a little reclaimed. Two legends at the same time.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, it's an embarrassment. I'm embarrassed. It's an embarrassment of riches. It's an embarrassment of decline. No. No, you two have now revived the concept of the comedy team, which I think is, when I was a kid, I loved the comedy team. I loved them.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Right. Abbott and Costello. Burns and Shreiber. How about the lesser ones? Remember that? Monteth and Rand. Because we're here, you go with the lesser ones? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 What's that about? Stiller and mirror. I love them. Stiller and Mirror, yeah. Laurel and Hardy. Burns and Tribe for Jack. Who? That's what a lot of the kids are saying.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Jerry and Bob. Is that what you said? Yes. That's right. Well, I'm going to get to that because you have your own Dorothy Lamour now. Oh, yeah. No, I've got to tell you something. That's the Nina Gomez.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But usually comedy teams are, you are both, you both, stars and then became a comedy team at, I guess we would say, the September of our years. Yes. As Mr. S was. That's polite. That's polite. More like December. No. You know, it's weird for me because when society deems you timeless, you don't kind of know where you fit on. How do you work with an egomaniac? That's for either one of them. Are we a comedy team? Is that what you think of us?
Starting point is 00:08:07 I like the idea of being a comedy team. Well, you work together on stage. I watched your Netflix special. No, no, we have worked together a lot on, say, we did five movies together. No, we didn't work a lot together. But up until seven years ago, we hadn't done anything long. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It never usually happens that way where they get together at the end. Usually they're a comedy team, and then they split up. You're doing it the reverse. I see. Oh, I see what you're... Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yes. Steve Martin. Well, I think. we're an interesting team because you know, Marty's a crooner. He sings beautiful, beautiful songs like Sinatra. I play the banjo. Right. No fit there. He does
Starting point is 00:08:47 characters. I don't do characters. He does voices. I don't do voices. And he has... You complete each other. I have that certain something. I'm sorry. And, you know... Sorry. Well, so I kind of carry this act.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, yeah. But I... Well... I notice you all... If you call a caring... me dragging you. You insult each other, which seems to be the way comedians show affection, like in the beginning of your show that I've seen,
Starting point is 00:09:17 that's a lot of the beginning is you, and of course, no one is buying it. You know, we know you love each other. But don't friends do that, all friends? Not all friends, your friends. Oh. My friend. Don't you think? I don't think all friends do that.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Insult each other? Will they rag each other on each other? Bust each other's balls? There you go. There's a language we're going for. Yeah. All right. So I want to talk about your show, because I know you want to talk about your show. It's fantastic. Couldn't care less.
Starting point is 00:09:44 No. Only murders in the building. Why is murder funny? And it is so funny in your show. Because it seems like it wouldn't be because it's murder. Well, you know, there's a huge history of crime. Going back even before this show. I mean, he goes back, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Wow. I mean, even having Costello movies were about, you know, somebody getting murdered by a Frankenstein, you know. And there's so many podcasts about murder. Right. And that's what I think is interesting about the show that it combines the obsession with crime and murder and podcast. Well, you know, the show actually came up like two years ago, and then podcasts, in that interim grew, and the podcast was always a bit a part of it. And now we're sort of writing a wave of podcasts.
Starting point is 00:10:36 delight. What do you make of that? I don't understand how people under 40, it seems like their attention span is either three seconds or four hours. I can tell you why. Because the podcasts go on too long for me. Well, I can tell you,
Starting point is 00:10:54 podcasts are perfect for doing two things at once. Yes. For example, I have a bicycle and exercise and have a podcast. So I'm doing two things at once. But if I were going to sit and listen to a podcast, I wouldn't be able to do it. And what do you think about?
Starting point is 00:11:08 And also, you know, you listen to a podcast while you're talking to your child. Or when I'm talking to Marty. I say, Marty wants to say something. I put it in the podcast. Let's talk generations because your co-star, and this is Selena Gomez, is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yes. I know. Do you know her music? Yes, absolutely. I want to love you like a love song baby. Uh-huh. I mean, I'm always looking for new music that sounds like it could have been hit in any decade.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That's one. Yeah. That's a great record. Well, I agree. She's so good in the show, too. She's fantastic, and we get along great. She's a great actress. And she puts out our pills in the morning.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, nice. She did make a big call about the first day of shooting. She went into, you know, I don't know if she knew. She came and said, I'm such a big fan, Judy Dench, she said. So. That's good. See what I mean me with the insult.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah. But, I mean, I love the dynamic that a millennial and two boomers because these two generations always seem to be feuding. Somehow the Gen X,
Starting point is 00:12:14 which are in the middle, they get a pass on this. But the boomers are always hearing it from the millennials that we ruined the world, we took all the jobs. But hasn't it always been that way?
Starting point is 00:12:24 I mean, in the 60s, you know, you were talking about doing the Smothers Brothers show here. Oh, that's right. This studio. No, it wasn't this studio. This is Carol Burnett.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Not the same studio. Smothers Brothers is. across the way. That's why my heart broke when I came in because they're on the, they said they're on the Smothers Brothers stage. I went, that's the Carol Burnett stage. Anyway, no, when I first started writing here, I was 21 years old. Wow. And the
Starting point is 00:12:48 reason I got hired at 21 years old is because the mantra of the day was never trust anyone over 30. So they wanted young writers. And, you know, the writers they had were great. They wrote for Jack Benny. And of course, they looked at us sideways, you know, these
Starting point is 00:13:04 kids coming in. But, you know, they were tolerant. And there were great writers. And that show, I don't know, do you remember this Mother's Brother show? Anybody in this? Okay, good. It should be.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I mean, they should have a legacy greater than they have. It was only funny, but it really kind of changed the discourse. Oh, it was brought in this country. So, okay, so I want to ask about ageism because you guys are old and I'm old. And, you know, it pisses me off that this is the,
Starting point is 00:13:34 the last acceptable prejudice. You know, people can always say, if they don't like anything you do, well, you're old. Are you saying that because I'm starting to look like the guy from up? No, you... It's the glasses. No. No, it starts for the glasses.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I got new frames, and I realized, as I was about to walk out here, I look like the guy from up. As in so many things, you were so ahead of your time in prescient, because you, because you had the white hair when you were three. So, you never really... I never thought of dyeing my hair once. And I'm so glad. You look like...
Starting point is 00:14:13 You look like Steve Martin. Yeah. Like he always looked. Yeah. That's a trick. Do you think I look like him? Ish. But do you think we should lean in...
Starting point is 00:14:27 I mean, to me, the only answer, because we're not getting younger, is to lean into it. You know, kids, you know, when they... That's where they attack me. You're old. And I'm like, yeah, but you're stupid. Maybe that's why I know some shit
Starting point is 00:14:41 And you don't It's like us backstage No, I think you're absolutely right I don't think you try to hide anything First of all you can't And you should Then why did you go into makeup? Because on the way here
Starting point is 00:14:56 I had smiled in a hunk of my stuff I put on it, fell off and I caught it And they had to patch it up But that's not the point Well I don't I don't actually think about it, but, you know, we're in a different situation, you know. You don't think about aging?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Well, I think about it as a person, but not as a celebrity or actor or something. But it's something that they attack you with. And then they look, I mean, if anything you do that doesn't measure up, they will say, well, now he's too old. Well, we get that a little bit, but in friendly conversation with Selena, she'll go, uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And it's even in the show a little bit written in. Right. But no, she's introduced us to a lot of things. Songs. Yeah, but you reach us... Oh, yeah, she did. To tell the story. When she was teaching you, reading all the lyrics to...
Starting point is 00:15:50 Wet-ass pussy. Yeah, Watt. Reading all the lyrics. And I... To wet-ass pussy? And I was aware that, you know, that kind of material was out there. I didn't know it was the number one hit. So that she's going...
Starting point is 00:16:04 She's reading him all the lyrics. And then I'm called to the set. And then about 10 minutes later, Steve comes up to me. Marty, I just heard three new verses to Top Hat and Tails. And when did you take away from what she taught you? Well, it's just that what used to be kind of underground is over the ground.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I mean about the pussy itself. Oh. That was a long time ago. So, young comics, what can we do to stop? help them. What do you mean? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:16:43 I'm just saying like when we were starting up, there was a place to be bad. You know, where can a kid be bad now? Well, they also have a shorter presentation. I mean, they might be 30 seconds, you know, so you get a chance to test something and see if it works. But, you know, I have a rule. I never say, well, when we were kids,
Starting point is 00:17:05 we were so much better. I just, you know, I heard that when I was a kid, and I vowed not to do it, because look at all the talent that's out there. I mean, just from new forums. There's not, I don't know, are clubs like catch-or-outers, are they still popular? They still are, but people go in there with phones. And if you try something, and it's a little out of bounds, it can be on Twitter, and you can be canceled before your career gets started. That's what I mean about we could be bad in ways and test them. boundaries and no one knew until we, like me, got higher up and then still did it and got
Starting point is 00:17:42 trouble. I was with Chris, did a little bit with Chris Rock on the Oscars. We were going to go to the comedy store and run it. You wanted to do that. I said, yeah, but somebody's going to, like, film it, and then they'll post it. Exactly. It'll be ruined. He goes, oh, that'll be great.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And I never thought of it that way. You mean good publicity? Good publicity. Yeah, but except if they had heard the jokes before, not so much. Well, all the jokes we did. I could talk to you all night. I just wanted to say, one of the great things about watching you is that I think audiences, I know, I am one.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Love it. No, when they're... We love it when we see people who we love and then we can tell that they're genuine friends. You know, like we see it with bands. We hate it when bands break up. Oh, I hated hearing about that the Eagles didn't get along. You know, Simon and Garfunkel, why can't you love each other? Right up to date.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Honest a gun. And then the Beatles breaking out. Right, exactly. We want it. So I just wanted to say, I can see the affection, and it's contagious. I love this little white-haired guy. I know you do. Steve, Bill can see the affection on us.
Starting point is 00:18:55 All right. Martin and Martin, everybody. Thank you. Hulu, August 31st. All right. Let's meet our panel. There you know. They can make fun of it.
Starting point is 00:19:16 me all they want. That was great. I want your job one day. I know. Isn't that fun? I want your job. That was fun. Well, I don't usually get that kind of star power here. But anyway, he's our Herzl panel. He's a national correspondent for Vice News tonight
Starting point is 00:19:32 and go host of the fifth column podcast. Michael Moynihan is here. And she's a columnist for USA Today and contributed to ABC News. Our friend Donna Brazell is back here. Always looking younger, by the way. Every time I don't know what. Well, you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:51 What it is? Like Obama, baby. I turned that golden 60. Really? Wow. You could pass for 40. Baby. And I still, like Liz Taylor, feel like a cat on a hot tin roof.
Starting point is 00:20:06 That actually... Yes. That was not a good thing to feel like a cat on a hot tin room. Well, you never know. What kind of pussy you're dealing with? Show's only I don't know. Nice as good to hold my hand.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Just to hold my hand. All right, this is turning into a very awkward transition into a discussion of Afghanistan. But I must say with all that's going on in the world, that is what is occupying my mind this week. And, you know, I mean, we all knew there were would be a collapse. It just is sometimes it shouldn't be shocking because it happened in Vietnam.
Starting point is 00:20:55 At least in Vietnam, it took a couple of years, right after the United States pulled out. So it was... The whole thing took less time, too. Yeah. I mean, this is longer than Vietnam by... Of course, the war is. But I'm saying, we pulled out and then they held on for a while. This is just...
Starting point is 00:21:11 This is a real, don't let the door hit you in the ass. Yes. Yes. And we were always destined to lose. I think a lot of people knew that from the beginning. or some people did. The Taliban are like child molesters. You can put them in prison for 10 years, 20 or 100.
Starting point is 00:21:26 When they get out, they're going to do it again. They burn down girls' schools because they like it. Old school. And old school is a very charitable way to talk about that. But I thought, why do we like it? And then I was reading about the money. Now, of course, the lives are the most important thing about what happened in Afghanistan, but also, we don't lose wars. I mean, we do lose
Starting point is 00:21:53 profits. We don't lose profits. The 10 richest counties in the U.S. are all, seven of the 10, I'm sorry, are the 10 richest counties, all outside of Washington, D.C. Loudoun County, Falls Church, Fairfax County, Fairfax City, Howard County, Arlington County. Why is that? It's because this is where the money is. Look, Bill, when we started this war, Operation Enduring Freedom, We were spending about $200 billion in some change in the military. What is it up to now? $700, $800, $800,000. I mean, that's one part of the budget we have not cut.
Starting point is 00:22:27 There was a slowdown at one period, but we've been spending a lot of money. So when you look at those outlying counties, those are defense contractors, lobbyists, etc. That's right. So $1 trillion. And all the money that trickles down to all the pigs at the trough, that's, we may lose wars, but these people are not losing money. Oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Right. No. But we're losing something else. Because in addition to going into Afghanistan to bring some degree of normalcy to a country that was never normal, we decided it was important to go after the people who attacked us on 9-11, right? We decided that it was important to make sure that it was not a safe haven again for terrorists, right? And what are we doing now? I mean, we also tried to do some rebuild and train the Army, help women and girls, humanitarian.
Starting point is 00:23:22 We dealt with their humanitarian crisis. At the end of the day, the Taliban just waited us out. And when Donald Trump, former president Donald Trump, I'm saying his name, don't curse me yet, when he decided last year to sign a deal, he signed a deal with little preconditions. Little. He gave him a date and the deadline. And Joe Biden hands are tied, and he's saying, okay, we're out. We're out, but is it right time?
Starting point is 00:23:45 I never want to be in the position of defending Donald Trump. But there's really not a hell of a lot you can do when you're negotiating with the Taliban. I mean, remember, there was a time in which we kind of bifurcated. This is the good Taliban and the bad Taliban. You remember this one? In Pakistan, they're all bad, right? And so the second you actually enter negotiations
Starting point is 00:24:01 with, you know, seventh-century psychopaths, you have to understand that they're never going to abide by anything. They want the entire country. It's 10 cities, 12 cities already, already. And I'm thinking this morning when I see the news about this, is what are the odds that on 9-11, 20 years after those attacks, where the people who launched those attacks were harbored in that country, are going to be retaking fucking Kabul.
Starting point is 00:24:27 They are 20 years after. And that really rubs in your face. And they're motorcycles. And they're motorcycles. I mean, they're finally capturing all of the bases and all of the tanks. But they're riding a damn motorcycle. And a lot of the warlords are basically saying, well, throwing the towel. And then I read somewhere today that the vice president of the country has already
Starting point is 00:24:45 left and went to one of those stands. Bring his ass back. One of the what? One of those Pakistan. No, Tejikistan. Tajikistan. You can tell I've never been there, sugar. I know it's one of those stands. You should go to the stands sometime. Yeah, hell no, I ain't going nowhere, but they don't like women. I ain't going. If I can't smoke a cigarette and drink, hell with you. I mean, it's not a bad policy.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And that's why I said in old school. And they didn't got back in town and told the girls that They couldn't go back to school and tell them to women they cannot work. Well, this is one of the difficult things about this, is that there is the most difficult thing, is what they're going to do to the women. Yes, yeah. And it was always going to be thus. And that's, you know, Joe Biden, he was against this back in 2009.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That's right. You know, it was Obama and Bush who thought, oh, surge, will surge, like that was ever going to change anything. So, I mean, the choice was either stay there forever. to protect women or this. And those things can work in the short term. I mean, surges can work they did in Iraq and the Anbar Awakening and things like that. But the problem is that we can win wars if it just means beating bad guys and that's it.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But beating bad guys and staying around and keeping that infrastructure and actually making sure that it blossoms into a society, this is not 1945. That was never going to happen. And you see these lists that people have made. And some of them are quite heartening and impressive. of what has happened in Afghanistan over the past 20 years the number of girls that go to school, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yes, but it's all gone now. It's all going away. I'm glad that there was a generation for 20 years that grew up never knowing the Taliban, but they're about to know it again. It's never going to be a democracy. When they voted on this in 2001,
Starting point is 00:26:31 there was one person in Congress. Barbara Lee. Barbara Lee. One person. It's like the movie 12 Angry Men. You know, sometimes just one person is right and everybody else is fucking wrong. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:44 What a woman. What a great woman of courage. She voted against the war. And look, the Afghan government has to show up some of this responsibility. I mean, they are corrupt. Well, it's over. I mean, there is no more Afghan government. And there never could be. I mean, it was never going to work.
Starting point is 00:27:01 A client state ruled 7,000 miles away from people with a different culture and religion. I mean, why, after Vietnam, why we thought we could just go, we don't learn. We just don't learn. And this thing about the money, I'm trying to, you know, the money, it's like now we're, okay, we got a $1 trillion infrastructure bill. Look, we need to rebuild infrastructure. On top of that, they want another the Democrats want, and may get $3.5 trillion. That's sort of the second infrastructure. I'm sure a lot of worthy things in there.
Starting point is 00:27:34 But if you ask me, like, what confidence do you have that these numbers, a billion, a trillion, for the first bill, $3.5 trillion for the other bill, or what the shit actually costs? I would say none. None. We just make numbers and pull them out of our ass. We did it. I'm saying, we did it in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:27:56 We do it here. I don't know what, if the second bill costs $350 billion, still a lot, as opposed to $3.5 trillion, would it be any different? I don't know. It's meaningless. The numbers are meaningless to people. Trillions of dollars means nothing.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I mean, there's just a thousand. billion dollars. Before that collapsed bridge and for having a 19th century rail system, Bill? I mean, shit, by the time I get to New York... But does it cost what... I know we need to do that. I'm just saying, but does it cost what they're saying it cost? Or is it all those people in those counties around
Starting point is 00:28:27 Washington making those numbers up and getting that money? Yes. It's always been the case. Yes, absolutely true. I think more now than ever. Probably more now than ever. There's more money to be had, but that's always been the case. But there are a lot of good people around that Beltway, and I've got to speak up for them because I I live within the beltway.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I live in Washington, D.C., baby. I'm a city girl. You know what I mean? And by the way, I haven't lobbied, but you just gave me a good reason why I should. Yes. Well, it's not just lobbyists, but it's... I know, baby, I know.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Okay. Maybe you can come visit my digs once I get one of them gigs. I think you should do a show. Yes. I think you should do a show. He has the original hair. I would fit right in with that crew. Again, awkward transition to climate change. I'm always hot, honey.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I'm always hot. Come on, sugar. Come on, lay it on us. Okay, I... What's happening? What's wrong? I mean, I have to... I love them.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Do you know how... Do you need your salts? Drink some of that water. I got something in mine. You know what I did in the back room? What? He had some liquor. Who did?
Starting point is 00:29:43 This brother. And, uh... Neat. Yeah, you boo. Okay. And I said, I'll give you my two clear bottles of liquor. If you give me that brown liquor. We made a swap.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah, you drank it, obviously. No, I have. No, no, no, no. I would never drink before a show. Okay. Okay. Well, I do. Now, as I stand, and I'm loving.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Look, look. I'm going to wet my whistle. I save my drunk for the people I really care about. All right. UN Climate Report. It's so depressing. I'm glad we're laughing. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Because the world's dying. Linda Means, senior climate scientist at the Aerosperic Research Center, it's just guaranteed that it's going to get worse, she says. I don't see any area that is safe, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Have a good summer. But this latest report, this is what depresses me. 234 scientists, 14,000 studies. I feel like deja vu.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I feel like I've read this story a billion times just on this show. If we don't do it right now, it's too late. And we never do. And it is getting too late. I'm not doubting that it is going to happen. It is definitely happening. I'm just saying no one cares. No one cares enough.
Starting point is 00:31:10 We just, as a society, made it. as a world, made a decision to, like Tauman Louise, hold hands and drive over the Grand Canyon. I think it also has the opposite effect, too. I mean, I've been, I spent five years, unfortunately, just out with people who are mostly Trump voters. And when you talk about climate change, it's usually this that comes up, by the way. They've been saying this for so long. It's going to be a disaster and what has happened. And sometimes people point back to, you know, the 1970s. They said it's going to be global cooling, et cetera. Those are the ones that have a few more data points. But it does have that effect, because people can't, much like spending,
Starting point is 00:31:42 can't get a sense of that, you know, period of time and what could it happen. So they say, you know, this is just the same old stuff we hear, so there's more government control and more government spending. I mean, the earth is constantly telling us to wake up, right? I mean, I saw it in Katrina. Katrina just literally wiped my home city of New Orleans off the map. Thank God we had a few levees that held up some of the neighborhoods. The truth is, Bill, is that this has been happening for a long time,
Starting point is 00:32:10 and we keep ignoring the science. And I'm afraid that we are running out of time. I work for Al Gore. Full story. He wrote The Inconvenient Truth. And he was right then. I used to look at Al Gore and think he was absolutely nuts. We went to Harlem once, Bill.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You would love this. And I said, talk about education. You with black people. Talk about civil rights. You with black people. He walked into the room, drew a map on the wall. I said, oh, shit, this man is right. And then he did.
Starting point is 00:32:43 He said, this is the work. the earth and it's warm and we're going, and I'm like, black people don't give a shit about that? It's been hot all our lives. We came out of Africa. What are you talking about? And he sat there and do you know what? He got the endorsement. He got the endorsement because it's going to be poor people and poor communities that are going to suffer most. All of us will suffer, but we need to pay attention
Starting point is 00:33:06 that climate change is real. And you know, last year, I haven't said this bill, and then I'm going to shut up for a moment. No. Look, last year, we had five years. name hurricanes. Five. Now, it's one thing when you go through, you know, Alice, get your ass away. Betty, but they
Starting point is 00:33:22 start giving us those hurricanes name that to the Greek alphabet. And you know you're in trouble when they go into Greek alphabet. That's why y'all better be clear about this Delta variant. This shit is bad. If you think Delta, wait until you get the Iota, Eidda. Epsilon. And what's the other
Starting point is 00:33:38 name? Lambda. And if you get the Omega, your ass is gone. Bye. Bye. Bye. All right. Okay. I was just serious. I'll give the balance of my time now, Bill. I'm so happy to see you.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'm so happy to see you. You're so funny. Don't stop drinking and don't stop talking. This is actually water. You should see what I'm going to put in this glass when I get off this show. Okay. So I was, uh, mentioned in the monologue,
Starting point is 00:34:06 Andrew Cuomo quit. I was reading his book. This is his real book. American Crisis, Leadership Lessons of the COVID-19. And have a kind of a chuckle. because it's not aged well. And I was laughing.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And then I realized, you know what? A lot of people write books, and a lot of them don't age well. And we dug up some of the ones, you know, from years past, you may have forgotten some of these books, but I'm telling you, a lot of books don't age well. Would you like to hear some of the ones? Like Anthony Wiener's tweet, Smell of Success. How do you use social media to sign?
Starting point is 00:34:46 silence your critics, did not age well. Michael Avenatti's, clang, the next time I see Donald Trump, it'll be through prison bars. Did not age well. Mike Lindell's, nowhere but up, reclaiming your integrity after crack. Never got a ditty.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Josh Duggers, child rearing the Dugger way. Did not... You know, it didn't age well. Nick Cage, never do it for the moment. money. Army Hammers, the people's diet. Did not. Ziegfried and Roy's, no bad cats.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Training tips from the experts. Didn't age well? Rudy Giuliani's, never let him see you sweat. Did not age... All right, so... Fans down. Stand down. But don't you think, Cuomo
Starting point is 00:36:04 for me, if he had just admitted instead of lying about what he was doing, if he had just said, you know, you got me, I was trying to get laid. I'm a lonely guy, because he wasn't married. It wasn't like he was cheating on his wife. I feel like this is a big problem in America. Men without
Starting point is 00:36:20 game. I think that's the issue. I do. The lack of game was said, I think it's a big problem. You think he would have survived? How do you just... No, I just think I wouldn't hate him as much. If he just said, you know what, I'm a lonely guy.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And, you know, when powerful men can't get laid, it's a terrible kind of, I think, trapped there in because, like, I'm so powerful and then no ladies like me. So they wind up doing horrible things. What a shame. What I said or what he did? Both. I mean, he don't need game.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I mean, create the kind of toxic atmosphere and climate. Of course. I am so glad that he does. decided to resign. I'm so glad. Not really decided. He didn't really... He didn't really...
Starting point is 00:37:11 Lettichael's decided for him. Hang on. I think it's probably not... I don't think he would have survived if you look what happened to Al Frank and the people in his own party that puts him up pretty fast on... But look, I mean, 11 women came forward?
Starting point is 00:37:24 He was digging in. He was playing a Donald Trump. I'm in denial. This is not happening to me. And what he did was not as bad as Trump. Let's not put him in that cut. But it's still gross and he should go. We did it. I asked the staff to come up with a list of people in both parties who've had sex scandals since 1960.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I crossed off all the ones that I didn't remember, the name didn't ring a bell. But I'd like to scroll through and show you, here they are, both sex, both parties, Democrats and Republicans. It's quite a few men. And, of course, the winner, by six, the Republican Party. But still a lot. That's 96 people. Wow. And that's just the ones who got caught.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah. I'm sure there were others. That seems slightly low to me. Discuss. Power. Power. It's about power. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:18 We've got to change the culture. It's toxic, and it has kept women behind. Okay. So you said you were just 60? Yeah, baby. 61, to be honest. Well, you could take a year off. I'm telling you could take 20 years off.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Well, I lost a year. Right. We all did that. Yeah, so there you go. You know, I got to meet myself for the first time. Figure that one out? I know what that means. I've never spent seven days a week at home.
Starting point is 00:38:49 The first thing I said, what do people do all day? Right. I had no idea seven days a week. I miss traveling. I miss being out with people. Me too. I love you. Me too.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I'm there. Okay, so that's true an interesting thing. So Obama's birthday party, right? Wasn't invited. Neither was I. It's okay. Same way I. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Okay. But it's getting a lot of shit from the right wing because they're saying it was elitist. And first of all, I find this abhorrent. He's a very rich, successful guy. You know, Mitt Romney's always, we shouldn't punish success. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Let's not punish success. When you are that successful, you get to throw yourself. a big-ass baller birthday party. This is the new Republican Party. It's the populist Republican Party. It's ridiculous. And somebody got in trouble, or there was a lot of talk about...
Starting point is 00:39:44 Erica Badu. Erica Badu. Well, she apologized just a few hours ago to the Obama's, I guess, because she snapped the pictures and leaked them and then... But look. Well, so what? That's my feeling. It was outside.
Starting point is 00:39:57 They were having a party. It was outside. It was a tent. This is Fox News. Mainstream media is silent while Obama dances maskless. in a crowded tent. And then somebody at the New York Times, who I often have a lot of problems with,
Starting point is 00:40:11 said, this is a, this is going to be, this is a sophisticated, vaccinated, vaccinated crowd, she wrote, and people jumped on that. And I would just like to say, yes, that's kind of relevant. But she was also quoting someone, too, by the way, which is how disingenuous a lot of the conversation about this is.
Starting point is 00:40:28 No, this came out later. Like they said, well, Wallapalooza, but Lollapalooza is not a sophisticated vaccinated, vaccinated crowd. It's a bunch of crazy kids who are not vaccinated on ecstasy. And by the way, it proves the point. It was like 300 some odd thousand people that went to Lollapalooza in Chicago, which is kind of shocking. And there were like 200 cases, maybe 300 cases. And I don't think any of them required hospitalization.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And people are attacking Obama purely for partisan purposes. If Republicans want to be kind of consistent about this, and they've been attacking lockdowns, and particularly in California, gathering these things up about it. outside. This is the exact same thing. Why are you attacking them? And all this stuff was outside. If you're going to be super sanctimonious about COVID, which I'm not for, but Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Lori Lightfoot and Chicago, they all got caught being hypocrites saying, you know what,
Starting point is 00:41:19 everybody would be very careful, but I want to live my life again. We all want to live our life again. They set policy for their states. Barack Obama leaves in Martha's Vineyard. Leave the guy alone. He had a COVID coordinator. Everyone was vaccinated. That was a requirement. Plus, as you are well aware, both the former president and former first lady have spent countless hours out there warning the American people,
Starting point is 00:41:45 encouraging them to get tested, encouraging them to get vaccinated. They did that. Yes. And so I think, I don't like the criticism. I wasn't invited, but can I have to tell you something? You know, I went to every White House party when he was president.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Ain't no party like a White House party because a White House party won't stop. Ain't no party like. I mean, I... And when I didn't get my invite, I know, you got to hang out with me. You don't believe that you don't care that you didn't get invited. Getting a kind of, he's pissing. You might be upset about this.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Did you get cut? Like, we were in that, we were in the, we were in. No, I was not like, I was, no, I would have been pissed. Well, they did cut. Oh, hell no. After I bought my dress and had my shoes. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:25 No, I was not cut. But I, you know what I would have used that moment to say, hey, Tom Hanks, come over here. Cut a PSC for the people in ICU. Oprah, cut a PSA for the people in Mississippi. I mean, I would have used it for that purpose, had I gone. Well, Oprah didn't make it there either, so... She did it make it?
Starting point is 00:42:40 And Chet Hanks is doing stuff about vaccination. Well, they've all been great. If I could return this back to global warming for a second. A lot of the people... No, no. A lot of the people... It's not reprimanding you. I'm just moving there.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Back to my drink. No, stop it. A lot of the people flew in on. private jets. Because, of course, these type of people, and I just want to say this about the environment, and there's nothing probably more selfish you can do than take a private jet.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And everyone who's going to that party is an environmentalist. This is going on ever since the environment has been an issue. If you can take a private jet, people do. I don't care how big an environmentalist they say they are.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I do it myself to get to gigs, or else I wouldn't do the gig. I couldn't even get there most of the time. Okay, but still, you couldn't make the case. But how many people in America, if they could take a private jet, would refuse it? I think it's about 1%. Because all these environmentalists do it.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It's just not something you can resist. People cannot resist it. They cannot resist a private jet. They will make excuses. They'll say, I bought carbon offrants. It's all bullshit. We're all driving off the Grand Canyon holding hands. It's the decision we made.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Now, I'd love to comment, but I don't have any crack a chair. Nobody invites me. No, but when you would go. Yeah, of course. We didn't even go through like Sioux Falls? No, no.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I don't know a part of it. Right. Jay-Z did not go on Spirit Airlines. Yeah, exactly. He's not rapping about Frontier. That's not as good. Well, there's a great ferry over to Martha's Vineyard, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:28 A ferry? Yeah, you can take a ferry. You got to get to Woods Hole. That Swedish. That Swedish kid can take the ferry. These people came in on the private trip. That's true. If you can hook up her sailboat.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That's a Swedish car. All right. Last thing I want to ask you about, there was a, what, it's your bailiwick. I thought we were going to go back to climate change. No, no, we just did. Nina Turner.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Oh, my God, yeah. Okay, if people don't know, there was a special election in Ohio. She was a firebrand. She said during the presidential election about, Biden, you have a bowl of shit in front of you.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It's still shit. That was her... So she lost, which is good. They thought she was going to win. Her opponent came from behind. Okay, but... Yeah. Yeah, right. Quite a bit. Okay. But the
Starting point is 00:45:19 far-left faction, the squad type folks. Okay. Okay. She's more in that group. I feel like we're breaking down into voters and followers. Certain people go by what the followers want and some people go by the voters. I think
Starting point is 00:45:36 you're on the voter side, right? Well, look, Nina's a friend, Shantel is a friend, so I had two friends of this friend. Shantel won. Shantel came from Bauer. She's a moderate. She had the support of the quote-unquote Democratic Party establishment, Jim Clyburn, the majority whipping, members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Nina spent
Starting point is 00:45:54 more money. Shantel spent less money, but she had more endorsements and more support. At the end of the day, you know what it's about these low-turnout elections? It's about voter. Nina spent a lot of her money on TV. She forgot to go and knock and drag people to the polls. It's also not cool to say voting for Biden is voting for a bowl of shit.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Well. What do you mean, well? That's a little, come on. She also wouldn't endorse Hillary. This idea of like, I go on a political hunger strike and then we all win is not a good, it's not a good look for the Democrats. She won five out of the nine black wards in Cleveland itself.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And Cahoga County, She didn't do as well. You know, I looked at the stats. All right? She lost the suburbs. It was not about the bowl of shit. It was about reminding people that there was an election that matter. It's about politics is the art of the practical.
Starting point is 00:46:42 We didn't even get to bad way. We got so busy on. Next time. All right, I got to go to New Rules. Thank you. Thank you. Crazy people. Crazy people.
Starting point is 00:46:58 New Rule, country music has to admit it has a drinking problem. Apple Music's, today's country playlist includes the songs at the end of the bar. Beer's on me, wishful drinking, cold beer calling my name, drunk and I don't want to go home. Drinking beer, talking God, amen. Cold is you, which is about beer. Can down, which is also about beer. Tequila on a boat and throw it back. Which raises the question, if the heartland is so great, why can't they enjoy it sober? Did it for you?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Thank you. New Rule, stop making comparisons between this dildo sign in the town of Dildo Canada and our Hollywood sign here in L.A. For one thing, a dildo is a phony prick and never mind. New rule, Joe Biden must let the
Starting point is 00:48:05 Canadians back in. This week, Canada reopened its border to Americans, but we didn't do the same in return. What is that about? It's Canada. You know, America without the personality disorder? What is the problem? What are they going to do? Take all the good paying
Starting point is 00:48:31 improv comedy jobs away from Americans? Okay, they probably will, but still. New Rule, now that the latest issue of Batman comics has Robin coming out as bisexual, someone has to get Batman's reaction, because I'm pretty sure it's going to be, since Wendy, you like girls.
Starting point is 00:49:04 New Rule, if you're so desperate to lose weight, you'll have a dentist implant this clamp on your teeth that prevents you from opening your mouth wide enough to eat solid food. maybe just try salad? I mean, what's the point of achieving a great body when the only way you can brag about it is by saying, check out my chite-ish.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And finally, new rule, someone has to tell me, why is this guy always in the dog house with the online hall monitors of righteousness? It is a phenomenon that truly fascinates me that every couple years, Matt Damon, one of the most likable guys in Hollywood with impeccable liberal credentials, is again flailing around
Starting point is 00:49:52 in cancel culture quicksaint. It happened again this month when Damon revealed that he used to use a gay slur. I won't say the word, but it's the one your teenage son greets his friends with when they meet up at Chipotle. It's not always meant as a slur, but it's wrong, yes, of course. And Damon owned up,
Starting point is 00:50:13 saying that while coming of age in Boston in the 70s and 80s, that word was thrown around without any thought put into it. And now, he's put some thought into it, and he's going to stop using it. One might say he became woke. Okay, he was
Starting point is 00:50:29 late to the party, to which we could say welcome, glad you could make it. Or we could say, you came later than I did, die. There are too many people in this country who are motivated not by what they really believe, but by what will get Twitter to
Starting point is 00:50:54 react to them with likes and retweets. That's called bad faith. It's why every couple of years, I'm reading headlines like USA Today. I wish I could cancel Matt Damon. Washington Post. Matt Damon has more Damon-splaining to do. Daily Beast.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Shut up, Matt Damon. Vox. Matt Damon isn't a terrible person. He's just ignorant. Really? That bad, is he? We're talking about Matt Damon? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:23 He's got a clean water charity and delivers food to Haiti. What have you done, Vox headline writer? And yet he is always getting pulled over by the woke police for something. He's got a woke rap sheet as long as your arm. On the reboot of the Project Greenlight series, he was booked on obstruction of social justice for maintaining that a director should be chosen on merit first.
Starting point is 00:51:57 But merit first is not synonymous with racism. Thinking that it is, that's kind of racist. In 2015, Damon did hard time in Twitter jail on two counts of accessory to homophobia. for saying that actors do well when they keep their private lives private so that audiences can watch the character on the screen without thinking about the caricature from the tabloids, and that includes your sexuality.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Which is true. One of the reasons I love Daniel DeLewis is, I'm not sure he even exists off-screen. But in Wokeville, somehow that became gay actors should go back in the closet, which is not what he said, but the verdict was in and he was sentenced to appear on Ellen. But here's how unhomophobic Matt Damon is. He fucked Liberace.
Starting point is 00:53:15 2016, the movie The Great Wall opened, and Damon was brought up on charges of whitewashing in the third degree. Whitewashing being when filmmakers cast white actors for parts meant for people of color, which is exactly what he was not doing. His role was never meant for a Chinese actor. In fact, it was a Chinese-made movie targeted primarily to the Chinese audience that was purposefully using his white ass so the movie would have crossover appeal here.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Nevertheless, when I heard about this, I immediately replaced Matt's poster over my bed with Chris Evans. 2017, in the early days of the Me Too movement, Damon was locked up in Wokitras on a charge of aggravated mansplaining during a reckoning and was sentenced to not less than one year of having to shut the fuck up. See, what happened was during an interview where Damon called the Me Too movement
Starting point is 00:54:24 wonderful and a watershed moment, he added that sexual misconduct involved a spectrum of behavior and that there was a difference between patting someone on the butt and rape. True. Undeniable. And unforgivable.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Even though the legal system has always differentiated degrees for crimes, even murder. Oh, Matt. Always getting in trouble for saying perfectly reasonable things. And now he's done it again by breaking Liam's
Starting point is 00:55:03 law. Yes, that's the law that refers to the time a few years back when actor Liam Neeson recounted a story of personal growth involving racist thoughts he had as a young man, but then realizing the error of his ways, expunging the racist element from his anger. But of course, in so doing he committed the cardinal sin of admitting he was not born perfect and did not emerge from the wound. And did not emerge from the completely enlightened like Buddha.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And now Matt's done it with his gay slur admission, committed the crime of not always being the person you would become. You know, I'm so tired of bad faith arguments, and it's all we do now on both sides of our divide. Two weeks ago, Nancy Pelosi
Starting point is 00:55:50 called Republican House leader Kevin McCarthy a moron. Oh, that's not the bad faith part of the story. That's the true part. But a few A few days later, McCarthy was speaking to a group of Republicans and said, jokingly, but he is Kevin McCarthy. He said that if Republicans took the House in 2022, quote, I want you to watch Nancy Pelosi hand me that gavel, it will be hard not to hit her with it. Pelosi's office called it a threat of violence.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Hakeem Jeffrey said violence against women is no laughing matter. And Eric Swalwell said McCarthy was a would-be assailant who must resign. Shut up Shut the fuck up This is what bad faith is You don't really think it was a threat of violence Or that anyone thinks such violence would be a laughing matter Or that Kevin McCarthy is a would-be assailant
Starting point is 00:56:53 Any more than anyone thinks Matt Damon's a homophobe And Matt, my advice to you, Stop hunting for goodwill You're not going to find much in this country That's our show. Thank you very much. I'll be at the PAP Theater in Milwaukee tomorrow night, August 14th, at the Riving a National Sunday, the 15th.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I want to thank Michael Moynihan, Donna Brazell, Steve Martin and Martin Short, and you. Thank you very much, folks. Catch all new episodes of real-time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10, or watch them anytime on HBO On Demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com.

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