Real Time with Bill Maher - Episode #369 (Originally aired 10/30/15)

Episode Date: October 30, 2015

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maugh. We're all excited. It's, no, it's almost Halloween. Isn't that why? That's why I'm, oh, thank you very much. But isn't Halloween,
Starting point is 00:01:14 isn't Halloween an exciting time? I have the best costume I did this year. I got myself a handful of Xanax. and try this. You can either take them and go as Dr. Ben Carson. Or put them in someone's drink and go as Bill Cosby.
Starting point is 00:01:36 So you can go either way. Now, speaking of Dr. Ben Carson, some of the polls have him leading Donald Trump now and Donald Trump does not like it. Today he asked to see Dr. Ben's birth certificate. So he's... Oh, I tell you, the Republicans, they love Dr. Ben Carson, even though there's a little scandal brewing.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Did you see the debate the other night? Well, apparently Dr. Ben told kind of a big whopper about how he never had a relationship with this herbal supplement company. And then he made speeches for them. He talked them up their products on interview shows. He said the herbal supplements cured his prostate cancer. But listen to this. He said he still had the prostate surgery
Starting point is 00:02:29 and had it removed to be a role model. I'm not making that up. Because nothing says role model like having someone unnecessarily stick a knife in your ass. But they love him because Ben Carson says the craziest shit.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I mean, Trump says crazy shit. Ben Carson much crazier than Donaldson. But the thing is, he says crazy shit in a voice that sounds like he is moderating a golf game. If the Jews had pistols, we wouldn't have had the Holocaust. Obamacare is a lot like slavery. I think it's worse than slavery.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Evolution was the idea of the devil. I am the god of hell fire, and I want you all to burn. I mean, he's just... Now, if you didn't... see the debate, let me just cut to the chase for you. None of them got suddenly smart.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But everybody said the next day that the big winner was Marco Rubio and, oh yes, all the billionaires now are fighting each other to get a little piece of this guy. He's like the hot new pool boy in Beverly Hill. It's true.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And apparently the big loser was Jim Bush. That's true. He did not do well. A Carson called him low energy. So that, I mean, that, you know you did bad when the next day all the media outlets are asking you
Starting point is 00:04:15 if your campaign is on life support. That's what they said. Is your campaign on life support? And Jim said, no, it's still alive and well, but that's the same thing you said about Terry Schiavo. No, I mean, he said it is not on life support, but it was not a good sign this morning when he woke up and Chloe Kardashian was at his bedside.
Starting point is 00:04:41 That was a very bad time. Very bad. But I think people are starting to question the narrative of Jeb Bush that we've heard all along that he was the smart bush. I don't think there really is such a thing as a smart bush. I don't. I think, honestly, I think if you took every, I think if you took every, Everything good about George W. Bush, low body fat, that's it.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And took that away, you'd have Jeff Bush. Now, the other big loser from the debate Wednesday night was CNBC. That was the station that hosted the debate. And, you know, it's not really all there for. The problem is that these are no longer really debates. They are events for cable networks to get ratings. So the questions have to be more and more outlandish. and the Republican candidates started to complain about it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They're actually pulling out of the next NBC debate because they said we should not be subjected to a barrage of stupid, nasty gotcha questions just designed to make us look bad. What do you think these are? The Benghazi hearings? That's what they said. And really, some of the questions were pretty stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:10 The first question, really, the stupidest question I've ever heard, the guy asked all the candidates on the stage, what's your biggest weakness? Now, who's going to answer that honestly? Wouldn't it be awesome if they did, if they had truth serum? I put my personal ambitions before the good of the country. I have no real grasp of facts. At inability to assess problems and embrace plausible solutions.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But no, of course, it was just an opportunity to humble brag. Mike Huckabee said, his biggest weakness, he lives by the rules all the time. You know what, Ben Carson said his weakness was? He didn't see that he should be president until hundreds of thousands of, of people begged him to do it. Marco Rubio said his weakness was he's too optimistic about America. And Chris Christie said,
Starting point is 00:07:05 Cool Whip. All right. We got a great show. Maxine Waters, Grover Norquist, and Roger Stone are here. And a little later, my friend David Spade, will be coming out and joining us at a minute. But first up, she is one of the first female
Starting point is 00:07:23 combat veterans to ever serve in the U.S. Congress where she represents Hawaii's second district, Representative Tulsi Gabbard. Hey, Congresswoman, how you doing? What a great pleasure to meet you. Great to see you. Oh, look, you wore Halloween colors. Tis the season.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Right. And did you get the lay? I did. It was beautiful. Made me feel very much at home. Right. And I was worried whether I should give it to you or someone else should give it to you.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But it's not demeaning to get a lay from your native Hawaii, right? No, it's a compliment. The opposite. You never know. I was very touched. I try to be political. correct. Yeah, sure. All right. So you, wow, at your
Starting point is 00:08:05 young age, you are the vice chairman of the DNC, the Democratic National Committee, right? Wow, that's pretty good. And let me ask you a question, I know you won't answer. Who do you fear most, Hillary running against? Fear?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Well, I mean, who do you worry about them? No, here's what I'm concerned about bill is that we end up in November of next year. And we end up with the frontrunner, Hillary, and many of the Republican candidates that we're seeing who are essentially interventionists and who are taking positions that will put us in yet another position, just as we've seen over the last decade, of getting into a regime-change nation-building mission, which is essentially what they're advocating for right now in Syria. Hillary's kind of a hawk herself.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Absolutely. She was a cheerleader for the Iraq. war when she was in the Senate. Right. As Secretary of State, she was one of the strongest advocates for getting rid of Gaddafi, and we see exactly the results of that in Libya today, where in both of those instances, in Iraq as well as in Libya, the end result is our enemy is stronger. The Islamic extremists have taken over, and they are creating more of a threat to the people there as well as to the rest of the world.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It was news today that we're sending 50 troops, boots on the ground into Syria. Now, the President said no boots on the ground into Syria. Obviously, this is not a lot of boots on the ground, but that's what it is. Does that bother you? There's something that bothers me more, which is a bigger issue. And this I take personally as a soldier. If you're sending troops into harm's way, but you have not clearly identified and delineated what the mission is or who the enemy is, then we're talking about a very serious problem.
Starting point is 00:09:48 No troops should be sent into harm's way unless you have both of those things covered in. And that's the issue that I have with Syria with what's going on there now. that the administration is essentially working hand in hand with the Islamic extremists on the ground there who are working to overthrow Assad so that they can take over and establish their Islamic caliphate. And the president is, his policy is that the CIA there essentially working towards the same goal. So we should not overthrow Assad? Overthrowing the Syrian government of Assad will strengthen our enemy. It will open the door wide open for them to come in and take over some,
Starting point is 00:10:25 very superior weapons. I agree with you. Yeah, you can just say no. Yeah, exactly. Because, I mean, we got something worse when we overthrew Gaddafi. We got something worse when we overthrew Saddam Hussein. Egypt, we got something worse. I mean, it just doesn't get better.
Starting point is 00:10:40 People don't seem to have that understanding that the choices are not between good and bad. They're between bad and worse. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what is mind-boggling to me, is that this is recent past here we're talking about all of the examples you just laid out. All the things are saying about Assad, now they said about Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi and all these other people.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And they were all true because he is bad. Absolutely. But it could get worse. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, Zawahiri, remember him, the number two guy and al-Qaeda, kind of, Osama bin Laden and Strotsky.
Starting point is 00:11:09 About a month ago, he said that he's not for ISIS. He said, that is not a legitimate caliphate. And that Baghdadi guy, he is not a legitimate leader of the caliphate. We do not like him. And then he said right after that, but if I was in. Syria right now, I would join him in fighting the Crusaders. He's practically saying if you morons would just get out of the way, we would happily kill each other. Right. I don't know why we don't listen to that. It seems to be a problem that would solve itself. Right. And these groups, all of them,
Starting point is 00:11:42 they go by all these different names and sometimes they change their names. But what is at the heart of each of them is exactly that same ideology. They're all working towards the same thing, maybe in slightly different manners. And they're projecting it very clearly what their goals are. It's not like they're trying to hide it. And I think that's where we as the United States need to do better. And I was so glad to hear you say words matter because, you know, I'm a liberal. I don't know, you're a Democrat. They're sometimes afraid of the word liberal. They're a progressive. Whatever you want to call yourself. But I'm a proud liberal. And I think liberals have been, I've been trying to convince liberals, some of them, that they really need to go back to school
Starting point is 00:12:20 on this issue of Islam and what it means to be a liberal. And you, I think, are on the the same page. You say you don't like it when Secretary Kerry, for example, says that we should say, oh, it comes from poverty, or I think he said it comes from thrill-seeking Islamic extremism. And President Obama says we shouldn't even say Islamic extremism. We should say violent extremism, which is just crazy. It is crazy. They do matter. Words mean things. And this is what we need to look at as we look at. How do we identify our enemy so that we can defeat them. By saying that they're looking for thrill-seeking or that economic prosperity will solve the problem, give them a big house, give them a skateboard, set them on their way,
Starting point is 00:13:03 you think that's going to solve the problem? It's not. That's not what it's not. Exactly. He walked away from a huge fortune in order to go on this extremist-Islamist mission. I don't know why we can't call out this stuff for what it is. In Canada, they have a new government there, Justin Trudeau is the leader. He got in a bit of a controversy. There's a citizenship. guide in Canada. And it used the word barbaric. It said Canada's openness and generosity do not extend to barbaric practices that tolerate spousal abuse, honor killings, which means, you know, if you're a woman in that culture and you get raped, they kill you. Female genital mutilation, forced marriage. These are barbaric. They are. Why can't we use the word
Starting point is 00:13:51 barbaric. The Prime Minister of Sweden said a few months ago she called it medieval these kind of practices. It's not even medieval. Medieval looks good. Looks like Weimar Germany compared to this shit. So
Starting point is 00:14:09 what do we do to get liberals back on the page? Because they get upset if you use the wrong pronoun about a transgender person. You know, it's this philosophy that that gets in the way of us being able to accomplish our mission and defeat those who are threatening us. And it goes to the bigger issue, it goes to the problem of really not recognizing,
Starting point is 00:14:34 hey, there actually are things that are right and wrong. And these honor killings and these other things, they are clearly and absolutely wrong. They start with this premise in their head that all religions are alike, all cultures are alike. It's a religion of peace. Everything is pretty much equal, don't judge, but they don't really have knowledge of it. I mean, you've been to Iraq. What would an American woman who was living in Iraq, which is probably typical of the Muslim world, better than some, worse than others. How would her life change? I'll tell you, one of my own experiences, when I was deployed on my second deployment to Kuwait, one of my jobs was to go and help train the Kuwaiti army in counterterrorism, my military police officer in the Army
Starting point is 00:15:18 National Guard. And I'll never forget the first day I got there. First of all, no women are allowed on their military bases, period. So when I showed up in my uniform, my hair all tied up, the guard at the gate was kind of looking puzzled. But as I went in and met these men who we would be training over the next several months, at least half of them would not even acknowledge my presence. I was completely invisible to them. And that being kind of the opening to saying, okay, well, we're going to have to find a way to work together and get through this. The interesting thing was, though, I focused on the work that we had. I got in there, and we did all kinds of training,
Starting point is 00:15:55 and by the end of the several months that we had, not only were they speaking, and we were having conversations, and we became friends, but their commander, a very conservative, bearded Muslim man, presented me with an award of appreciation for the contributions that I had made for his troops, which I thought was progress. ending on a note of hope.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yes. Thank you very much. Keep doing what you're doing. I appreciate it, Congresswoman. Thank you. Okay, Tulsa Gabbard. Let's meet our panel. Hey.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. All right, here they are. He is the former senior advisor to Donald Trump's campaign and best-selling author whose latest book is The Clinton's War on Women, Roger.
Starting point is 00:16:44 In a long time, how you doing? Great. You all know this man, the President of Americans for Tax Reform he hates taxes, Grover Norquist. And she is the Democratic Congresswoman representing California's 43rd District, our friend, Congresswoman Maxine Waters.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Okay, remember to follow me on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and send us your questions for tonight's overtime. It's going to answer to the show on YouTube. Now, the first question in the debate, I mentioned in the monologue, what is your greatest weakness? Let's ask the panel that.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Roger. Too much testosterone gets me in trouble. Constantly. See, another humble brag. My large penis makes other men sad. I almost said that. Rover. Serious, I should do better at remembering names.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I'm in politics. It's a weakness. That's your worst weakness? No. It's the worst thing about you. It's the one I could come up with quickly. I see. Maxine, what's your worst? Time management.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I just, you know, extend myself. I don't, you know, calculate how long it's going to take to do something, and I'm always rushing. Okay. Well, I'm too nice to my guess. That's me, great. But if we were to ask, you know, it was just an opportunity for the candidates to humble break. But if you really ask them what their weakness was, let's go through a couple of them. Like, some of them are obvious.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Like Ted Cruz, everybody hates him. Yeah. Right? Everybody hate that everywhere. Everybody hates Ted Cruz. That's his weakness. Trump, the only guy who was honest, he said, I don't forgive. I love Trump for that.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It's like, I don't forgive. You fuck with me. I'm Vito Corleone. I will follow you back to Italy. I will find you in your old age, and I will stick a knife in your stomach. But, okay, so what about somebody like Dr. Ben Carson? What do you think his greatest weakness is? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I think his greatest weakness is, he probably doesn't know who he is. He's certifiable. That certifiably is... I think he's still finding himself. He has unnecessary prostate surgery. That is just the most bizarre thing I've ever heard. Very bizarre. And I think, you know, as time goes by, we're going to discover who he really is.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And we are. I mean, that's the great thing about a long campaign. That's right. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:19 What about Marco Rubio? Look, look, the challenge for the second. The challenge for the senators is that they've never actually been governors or run something in the executive branch. That's going to be a challenge for anybody who wasn't a governor. If they get to the White House, the challenge for Ben Carson and Trump is that they haven't also run nationally or run political campaigns before. And you can get in trouble. You can make mistakes. Boring. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I told you I was too nice to my guess. All right. What about Jab Bush's answer? I loved it was I can't fake anger or apparently any other human emotion Jeff Bush's biggest problem is his last name because let's face it, we need another Bush like we need another Clinton. No, he's a wimp.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, well, that's a facile and unfair analogy. Oh, come on, his campaign slogan, father, father, tell him it's my turn to be king. Give me a break. Well, yes, I would agree with this. To overcome, you're right, people don't want a dynasty in general, and the fact that his brother was the worst president ever.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He would, he would, to overcome all that, to overcome all that, he would have had to be great, and he's not close to great. He's just this boring apparatchik, like so many other before him. No, that's not his problem. He's a wimp. He doesn't know how to fight. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:20:46 That is so true. I mean, Marco Rubio slapped the white off him. That's right. Right? And all this time, we thought W was the dumb brother. Right. No. No. One second.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I think if he had a different last name, he'd be one of the front-running competitors. Really? Oh, yeah. Look at his governorship for eight years. He pushed school choice. He was strong economic growth. He was a good governor. His challenge is we're a country, and Hillary's too.
Starting point is 00:21:14 But we're a country that was born out of revolution against the idea of dynasties. Henry the 8th, George the 3rd, George is the 23rd. But it's not a dynasty that people vote for the person. Then it's not a dynasty. That's simple and easy. No, look, we went through this with the Kennedy clans and the Rockefellers and the dingle, dingle, dingle,
Starting point is 00:21:34 there's too much of this stuff where people... George Bush's cronyism was way worse than nepotism or dynastism. And privilege. And privilege. And privilege. Look, when Daddy was vice president, he gets a personal $4 million dollar taxpayer-financed bailout. if I was in that situation, believe me, the government would not be billing me out
Starting point is 00:21:53 because my last name was not Bush and Daddy was not V-P. And if they have to pick between a Floridian, I mean, Marco Rubio, let's put a fresh face on the same old tired bullshit. But also, there was an article in the paper about that where Bush Sr. You know, said,
Starting point is 00:22:11 I'm getting old at just the right time because I don't understand Republican politics anymore. It's gotten so dirty. Could we stop this, nonsense. The Bush family practically invented dirty politics in the modern era. Lee Atwater, I'm sure you remember all these people
Starting point is 00:22:27 up close and personal, Roger. Lee Atwater, are you kidding? And then Carl Rove, John McCain's Black Baby, all that bullshit. Yeah, whenever they get in trouble, they get dirty. At least Trump insults you to your face. He doesn't have people do it, you know, and say, oh,
Starting point is 00:22:43 I'm above politics, and then your Hatchet Man does it. I think if you go back through American history at Linda Bain's Johnson's campaign and throughout history, there's a great deal of that. Look, they're playing for real stakes. People are going to have sharp elbows, and they do. And you can't whine about the fact that it's a rough business there. It's a lot nicer than the way other countries climb their way to power. What about whining about the media? Now, I heard all day to day that they're the liberal media. First of all, that debate was on CNBC. CNBC is not the liberal media.
Starting point is 00:23:14 CNBC is the channel for want to be masters of the universe who spend all day in their corner offices jerking off over to capitalism Actually I think it's the channel for nobody because there's nobody watching Yeah, but let me tell you why I think the media made its first mistake
Starting point is 00:23:32 When Donald Trump said to CNN That if they had a debate that was longer than two hours He wasn't going to show up And CNN gave in to the that and they never should have. They should have said, we're going to have this debate. If you don't want to come, don't come. Donald Trump loves this free media that he's getting, and he would be there, but what they did was they got intimidated by him, and that's a mistake. You put your
Starting point is 00:24:00 finger on it. This is the real story of the week. There is so much money sloshing around in politics. We know that the politicians get corrupted by it. You take Sheldon Adelson's money, and you have to listen to his issues, which are, let's break the casino unions and bomb Iran. Like, that's what America is really groveling for. Let's bomb Iran and break casino unions. No. If you take
Starting point is 00:24:25 the Koch brothers money, we should pollute more with fossil fuels. Let's go George Soros in there, though. I mean, this is not a partisan problem. There's too much money in both parties. In fact, both parties have become one party, the Wall Street party. Well, really, really
Starting point is 00:24:41 talking about... The Roversive Civil Liberties party. The big debt party. It's one party. That's the problem. That's a false equivalency because George Soros is advocating against his personal interests. That's not the same thing with the Koch brothers. George Soros wants to be taxed more, not less. He wants to be able to manipulate courage.
Starting point is 00:25:01 It's one party. What's really dangerous is we cannot have the media intimidated by one of these candidates or all of them in the interest of advertising. And so I worry about that. And I think that when they backed down, and then Trump went on the air and bragged about it, but he brags about everything. And so I think that the media is going to have to decide whether or not it wants to offer credible debates, despite the fact that they will be opposed by many of these Republican candidates who says, I want you to ask me what I want you to ask me.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Right. Ask nice questions or we don't show up. That's right. And that is a form of censorship. Yes, it is. Yes. This is the problem. This is part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Big problem. Look, you could have serious questions that don't get into, he called you a name and she called you a name. That kind of thing, I thought from CNBC, the reason they got yelled at instead of the previous two ones, is people had higher expectations, just as you were saying, that they would talk about economics and perhaps the trade agreement that we're talking about and sequester and all the things before the country that are the slow economic growth, we're growing at 2% a year, not 4% to year, but 2% a year,
Starting point is 00:26:15 and that's rather damaging to job opportunities for young people. How do we do better? They're not doing questions like that. They're doing this personality stuff. But the job of a Republican candidate is to do what Reagan did, talk over the media, around them,
Starting point is 00:26:29 and through them. It's the media's job to make themselves famous and sell ads. You can't do that anymore. That's a very different area that you're talking about. But they're going to have to learn to do it. No whining. Social media and Twitter. Are you kidding, please?
Starting point is 00:26:41 Social media makes it easier to go around the networks. Actually, it does. Yeah. Because before, they were only three networks, and if they didn't say it, it didn't happen. Okay, but look, look, here's a good example. This year's bogus story about Halloween, there's always one. And they printed it on CBS Online, was that drug dealers are putting ecstasy in the candy. Now, there's no evidence of this, and I've never known drug dealers to give away their product to children or anybody else.
Starting point is 00:27:07 But CBS admitted that it was bullshit, but they still printed it. Why? Because clicks. Because it's not about truth anymore. It's about who gets the most clicks. It's about driving internet traffic and getting retweets. This is slightly less damaging than the yellow journalism at the turn of the century that gave us the Spanish-American War. So the idea that people sell newspapers and get other people killed as part of it. is not new. We've had
Starting point is 00:27:39 yellow journalism before, and we've had dynasties before. We just have to fight against it. But it seems like journalists at least cared before. I don't think they care that much about what the truth is. Or about anything but the horse race. Now, you're for Donald Trump's tax plan, right? I think it's a fine tax plan.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Okay. That says a lot. It's one of seven fine taxes. Now, Chuck Todd, we like Chuck. He's been on our show. This is what he tweeted after Donald Trump's tax plan, which, by the way, gives money away on both ends. It would it would blow a hole in the budget like you can't even describe. He said this Trump tax plan probably would have been a plan
Starting point is 00:28:13 Obama could have supported. That is just shockingly ignorant. You can see why they only want to cover the horse race. There's only half of the story being told here. The truth is none of these guys are going to cut federal spending. It's not just tax reform. You've got, everybody says, oh, it's going to cause a giant deficit. Well, the reason no other candidate will cut spending
Starting point is 00:28:34 is because every piece of spending in the federal budget was put there by some special interest. This is why I like Trump. You can't buy him. You can't bully him. He doesn't take campaign contributions from lobbyists. What you see is what you get. I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:28:46 He's not coached. He's not scripted. He's real. He's genuine. And it's entertaining. That's why he's doing so well. So why do he fire you? He didn't.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I quit. Oh, you can't fire me. I quit. I had five witnesses. Okay. All right. So, you know, guns are always
Starting point is 00:29:06 in the news, unfortunately. And I saw a startling statistic in the Washington Post a couple of weeks ago that said toddlers, you know, people who are so small, they don't even really know what a gun is, get a hold of a gun and shoot someone once a week now. And you know what the NRA
Starting point is 00:29:22 says about this? They say the only thing that will stop a bad toddler with a gun is a good toddler with a gun. So they have they have put out this book for For toddlers, it's called Everybody Shoots. Would you like to hear it?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Because it's really quite special. All right, let's read Everybody Shoots. Welcome to the world, your very first year. And you need to know it's not safe around here. You need to be watchful. You need to be ready in case a Mexican comes for your teddy. What will you do when attacked by a sniper? Just sit there and cry and fill up your diaper?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Is Daddy hurting Mommy? Better go for your rod. Why else could she be? screaming, oh God, oh my God! You don't want to be caught without packing some heat when big birds start some shit on Sesame Street. Forget dressing dollies are playing with blocks. You need to have luggers and shotguns and glocks.
Starting point is 00:30:29 There are guns for daddies and mommies and grammies. Guns to match your camouflage jammies. Just holding one makes you feel happy and strong, which is great when your penis is half an inch long. So keep a gun near and you never need fear. Keep it close in your crib or in mommy's brisier. And the next time your brother steals your bathtub ducky, show him your gun and say, hey, punk, you feel lucky?
Starting point is 00:31:01 The next guest is a... Oh, my gosh. Long-time friend of mine who has made me laugh for more years than neither of us would want to remember. He has made me laugh in movies, in sitcoms, on Saturday Night Live, and definitely it is stand-up. And now he's got a book. And what do you know?
Starting point is 00:31:25 It's good and funny, too. It's called David Spade. Almost interesting. David Spade is over here. That makes up for all the pain in your book. There's a lot of pain in there, pal. There's a lot of pain in your book. You had a painful life.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah. But look how good it came out. Yeah, I got my hair greased back. Things are starting to click. I understand you have a great Halloween costume this year. Oh, yeah, I'm going as a pizza rat. Isn't that good? Right out of that.
Starting point is 00:32:08 headline. Yes, right out of the headlines. We'll see. Would you care to tell us what your weakness is? We all share at ours. I'm usually the fifth smartest person in the room, so that's a problem. No, listen, no one expects
Starting point is 00:32:26 miracles from me tonight. All right, well, I have to say, when I read your memoir, I had the exact same experience about six months ago Martin Short was here, and he had a memoir. These are two people I've known for a very long time and I thought I knew well.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And what I found out in both cases was we have an amazing a lot of things in common that I never knew. Like, I was all so short as a kid. And it's tough being the short one, right? Did you grow out of it? Yeah, I did not. Okay. A little less than I did.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You only got laid once in high school? Yeah. Okay. It was a good one. And you got your start. start and comedy doing the variety show in high school. Yeah, I was doing a talent show, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Isn't that amazing? Ripping off old SNL sketch. Right, I ripped off Johnny Carson. It was great. So, then I got a little older and tried to get it together, but now I'm still, I don't know if it's old enough to look back at my life. It's just mostly a series of crummy stories.
Starting point is 00:33:32 No, they're not crummy. You're so modest, David. It says it's almost interesting. I know this about you're actually a sarcastic. But you're actually a very humble. Well, it was going to be called my life as a six. But because a girl told me once, I go, what do you think I am? And she goes, a six? Like, she was guessing me.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I go, I feel like seven is more fair. And she goes, I go, you rounding up? She goes, it was like a six, too, so I'm sort of rounding down. But you know what? You get this rap when you're, if you're better looking, it helps. Well, that's true, too. But I remember once, Dave, you were going, I don't know who this, the girl's name was, but this very, very tall,
Starting point is 00:34:11 blonde model. Do you remember who could have been many women with you? Sure. Okay, and there was a picture of you, and you were like a foot shorter than her in the... And so people were... I remember I was talking to people, and they were all making fun,
Starting point is 00:34:24 and I'm going, yeah, but he's fucking her. We hope. You get all you people making fun, this little... Or Maxx. Sorry, I'm homeless woman. Your district is safe, I've never heard that word before.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I know, I know. No, but it's funny because you get, you know, some of these good-looking guys like DiCaprio, Clooney, you know, Derek Cheater, you get a pass. You know, they're like... Right. With me, they're like, oh, get it together, you know. It's embarrassing, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Settle down already. With them, they're like, why should they settle down? They're rich and good-looking. Have fun. You're a millionaire. So, by the way, Derek Jeter, I heard he used to do something that I thought was interesting. I don't know if it's true, of course, but after a girl would stay over,
Starting point is 00:35:09 he would send her a Yankees tickets or a sign uniform. I thought that was a little insult. I don't know how it was, but... So now I give a girl either a Joderk keychain or a Emperor's New Groove throw pillow. Or I say there's some Kate Spade or regular bags in the garage. Grab one on the way out.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Limit one per customer. Very sweet. Because I think I'm nice. I think... Right. But also, you know, I mean, we live in this age where you're allowed to do anything sexually
Starting point is 00:35:41 and it's a point, which is great. You know, I mean, if you're gay, if you're transgender, I mean, I'm about to be 60 years old in January. If I came out on my 60th birthday and said, I have an announcement, ladies and gentlemen, I am a gay man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know who Charles Blow is?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah. It's a great character name, isn't it? I was about to say. Maxine, whisper it to me. No, he's actually a, he's actually a, he's actually a very good and esteemed New York Times columnist. I believe he's bisexual. If you're not, Charles. You read his book. Yeah, that's what he reads. Anyway, so he, and he wrote a column about that, and, you know, we live in this age of no labels. It's what my body's telling me. You know, this is my truth. Let me read the
Starting point is 00:36:32 line he wrote, because I thought, I thought of you and me. But listen to this. No one has the right to define or restrict the parameters of another person's attractions, love or intimacy. People must be allowed to be themselves, however they define themselves, and they owe the world no explanation or excuse for it. That applies to everybody but us. Yeah. It's the last taboo.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You cannot be an older man with a younger woman. Yeah, it's not cool. I'm finding. But I'm not even anti-marriage. I'm just anti-bad marriage. I mean, you look at it. It's crumbling all around us. So it's hard.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I mean, listen, I could be that guy in the Kardashian, Scott, that goes out with a girl, and he's at clubs every night and spending her money. Like, I'm the asshole. Look at this guy. Right. Married three kids. He's like filming dollar bills every night and rolls,
Starting point is 00:37:29 Royces. I'm like, Jesus Christ, what am I doing wrong? But, by the way, I'm really pulling for Chloe and Lamar. I mean, that's real. Yeah. Because I like, if they ever get in a fight in the future, you know, she's going to be like, did you know I stop doing nothing for you? All right.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Now, David, I can't get that nothing back. I was reading a press release. Apparently, Bill Maher is expanding his annual New Year's Eve, New Year's Night comedy shows in Hawaii. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing. And he will be performing with him, me and Jeff Ross. It's going to be great. Me and Jeff Ross. Okay. It would not be more fun.
Starting point is 00:38:11 All right. So I want to ask you also, on the panel, too, about the thing that everybody was talking about this week, the guy they call Officer Slam in Columbia, South Carolina. Remember there? Did you ever work that club? Giggles? Columbia South. Oh, how the fuck did I remember? Gutbusters?
Starting point is 00:38:29 I don't know. I worked it in 1983. Side squatters? When I was 11. Anyway, this guy body slammed this 16-year-old black girl in class. I mean, she would not give up her phone, which was wrong, and then she wouldn't leave the room, which is wrong. But he compounded it by, I think, this is just horrendous,
Starting point is 00:38:51 to treat a child like this, a teenager. But I also have sympathy for people in authority because I think parents just let kids do anything nowadays, so they never listen to authority. And not having any kids myself or ever being around them except on a plane, I'm basing this on movies and television. Am I wrong that parents are just not doing the job?
Starting point is 00:39:21 It's overzealous policing and underzealous parenting? First of all, Bill, you're assuming that all of these kids have parents. She was a foster child, that's true. And some of them come from, very difficult situations. Of course. I've had this experience working with some of these kids. Now, I'm not excusing them, but I want to tell you, this cop could have broken her back.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oh, horrible. He could have broken her neck. Yeah, we're not defending. She could be dead today. We're not defending. And so he overreacted. Yes. Mr. Slam, whatever they call him, had no right to pick up that young lady and the chair.
Starting point is 00:40:03 All agree. And, you know, throw them across the room. Okay. And thank God it wasn't my child. But what, yeah. I will say, Bill, I get, I see the, I saw another video of a guy slamming the principal down. And when I was in school, I was scared of, maybe because of my mom,
Starting point is 00:40:21 but I was scared and respectful of teachers. Me too. And I think that's getting a little blurrier because you see him in class like, fuck you. And it's very tough. When you see kids that are 13 and are this tall, beating up teachers, it's back and forth. You know, the teachers get too tough with them, but then the kids that you're,
Starting point is 00:40:38 actually scared of in classes that are 15, 16. I'm scared of kids as young as nine. But it's so true. When we were kids, there was an alliance between the parents and the teachers that the kids could not drive a wedge through. And now the alliance is against the teachers. That's why they can't teach.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Because the little brats go home and complain, and then the parents complain to the teachers. They're not on the side. of the teachers? All that may be true, some of that may be true, but the fact of the matter is there are different ways to handle these situations. You can dismiss the whole class,
Starting point is 00:41:18 you can leave, and you can get with the principal, and you can talk about what's the best way to do this, you can pick up the phone, you can call the parents, but for the police to come into the school and pick up the kid in the parents' language, that's too much. That's too much. That's the part we agree on. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And a 200-pound man not rest a cell phone from a 76 pound child? I don't think it was about the cell phone at that point. It was about not leaving the room. But the problem, the deeper problem of trying to get to is that what I see is parents who just constantly negotiate
Starting point is 00:41:52 with their children. I've been in these situations with parents and it's, everything is hey, hey, what do you think, what do you think, buddy? Is it time to go? How about get in the fucking car? I'm sorry. I did it again.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You know what? I did it again. I said the bad word in front of the Congress. They might be scared of being bad parents because, you know, all parents are judged so harshly now by other parents that I think that my mom could quietly keep us in line. We're not hitting us or anything, but she would do what she had to do. But I think everyone's so scared of looking bad to the other parents and you're not parenting right and all that that they want to grade the kid on a curve. Maybe they're a little softer with them. I mean, they're definitely softer.
Starting point is 00:42:37 That's for sure. Okay. Well, the head of the FBI also was talking. talking about the police this week. And he said there's a, his quote was there's a chill wind blowing through American law enforcement because of what they're calling the Ferguson effect. In other words, cops are having to wear cameras now. And so they are being intimidated from doing their job. But it seems like that's an indictment of cops not being able to do their job without following the wall, without breaking the wall. We pay them to protect and serve.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And they can't get out of their cars because there are too many cameras. Thank God. for cameras. And so let me just say that if that's the reason that they're giving, that's just not legitimate nor credible. I mean, we pay them to protect and serve. Runs the other way. If he's carrying a camera, that's the one thing an honest cop knows that he's covered and protected. That he can't ever get accused of doing something he didn't do. Good. That's right. Grover's right about this. My son's a cop. He likes the cameras. Because if you're not an abusive cop, if you're doing your job, you're not afraid to get out of the car because
Starting point is 00:43:40 It's not going to show you doing anything wrong. It's only the bad cops who don't want to get out of the car, who don't want to be in the camera. You know, they always say dance like no one's watching. Yeah. Especially to guys like us. But you should police like everybody's watching. I mean, it doesn't seem like...
Starting point is 00:44:00 And they are with iPhones. They're just everywhere. And people used to be said in politics, never say anything that you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the Washington Post. Because it might get there. And it just tempers. the language that one uses and the approach.
Starting point is 00:44:15 But we need to live as if you are always being filmed because it may be. You can't walk around doing stuff that you don't want to see on YouTube because it may be there. Okay. One more big issue that we have to get to that happened this week. New Speaker of the House, finally.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Paul Ryan, John Boehner, made a tearful, of course, tearful exit. Exit, and I understand they dimmed the lights at his tanning salon. It was... Oh, that's nice. Yeah. And I understand you congratulated him. I called him the night before he made his announcement.
Starting point is 00:44:58 John Baney and I were elected at the same time. We were in the freshman class together. So I got to know him pretty well. And behind the scenes, we oftentimes could get together and talk about how to solve problems. If you can recall, we had a big problem. And use each other's makeup. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:45:19 That's a natural tan that he has. He's got a good base. I'm surprised you're making fun of Bainter because he's a person of color. He's a personal public. And don't forget, I was working on XM, the XM Bank. And so... I do forget. You do forget. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I don't even know what... Don't forget. Come on. Spade is there. Yeah. Well, he remembers... XM radio? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But anyhow, I called him and I said, look, you came in the same time that I did. You've had a wonderful career. You became speaker. And in addition to become speaker, you wanted to have the Pope. You got the Pope. So what more do you need? If it's time for you to go, go.
Starting point is 00:45:59 But you have been very successful. So you're the one who actually pushed him out? No, I didn't push him out. Hey, there's he is. Good job, Maxie. All right, thank you, panel. You were a magnificent, but now it is time for new rules, everyone, new rules.
Starting point is 00:46:23 New rule, the California town that just outfitted its officers with nunchucks. Has to admit they got bored beating the snut out of people the old-fashioned way. Nunchucks? It's one thing to get beaten by a cop on video. It's another one. It sounds like this. Stop resisting. I told you to stop resisting.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I did the best I like it. The Ninja Turtle Cops. New Rule, Damon Perry, the New Mexico man, accused of beating his friend to death because they were binge watching the Walking Dead, and he suddenly thought his friend was turning into a zombie. Has to remind me never to watch porn with him. New Rule, it's okay that Walgreens has bought right aid
Starting point is 00:47:17 for $17 billion, resulting in a grand total of 13,000 stores and a combined workforce of nine cashiers. Good one. But they have to call this merger what it really is. One-stop shopping for looters. Also, if you go to all the time in trouble to loot and your prize-looted item is a 12-pack of Cotonel,
Starting point is 00:47:48 you're not getting there early enough. It's good to see Cotonel get some attention. Nehruel, and this one goes out just to members of the Chinese Oh. This one goes out to just members of the Chinese Sam Kong Shrine. Very small group who watches the show.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I know you're celebrating the annual Purification Festival there in Thailand, but someone still has to answer me this one question. What the hell? Also, I get it that this guy is part of the festival and this guy is part of the festival, but someone should check on this. guy, I think he may just have had an accident with a bicycle.
Starting point is 00:48:33 New Rule, the person who paid $23,000 for a 103-year-old cracker that survived the Titanic must resist the urge to eat it. I'm just saying, the last time someone ate an old cracker, it wasn't good for either of it. And finally, New Rule, the PC police have to stop lecturing us on which Halloween costumes are inappropriate or insensitive
Starting point is 00:49:19 and leave Halloween to the people it was created for. Middle age gay men. The fake outrage people get 364 days a year to be hyper-sensitive about everything. There has to be one day
Starting point is 00:49:38 we're going too far. Isn't just okay? It's celebrated. Halloween is supposed to be politically incorrect. That's why we say trick or treat. instead of placate and coddle. Now look, I've spent weeks
Starting point is 00:50:01 working on my poca hot-ass costume. And when I knock on your door tomorrow, I don't want a sermon on bad taste. I want candy. Now, as you could probably tell, I love Halloween. As far as holidays go that celebrate ghosts and mythical beings,
Starting point is 00:50:23 it ranks right up there with Christmas. But lately, we have taken a day of getting off on pretending to be bad and turned it into a whole season of getting off on pretending to be good. The internet and magazines are littered with articles scolding people like the Huffington Post's list of frighteningly ignorant costumes, which includes the completely benign, sexy nurse. Now, I never got the whole sexy nurse thing because, really, who's that horny when you're in the hospital? Oh, oh, thanks for wiping my ass nurse.
Starting point is 00:51:06 while you're back there but who is it offending? Us Weekly recently published a list of past celebrity costume transgressions like the time Chris Brown dressed as a Taliban like that's the worst thing he ever did.
Starting point is 00:51:28 The Taliban should be wearing Chris Brown costumes. And remember when the internet lost its mind over this get-up? Now, it's not a great costume. She looks less like crazy eyes and more like John Boehner. But what's the big deal? Same with all the costumes on the Buzzkill shit list. Like Mariachi.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Mariachis themselves are wearing a costume. Do you think most Mexicans wear sombreros in sequined suits? No, just the ones who play that. horrible music when you're trying to eat. Another one, they hate geisha. Oh, who is that going to offend? The geisha who lives in the apartment upstairs? There's 12 geishas in the whole world, and they're all in Kyoto.
Starting point is 00:52:26 They're never going to find out you dressed like them at the office party in Irvine. And, of course, you're absolutely not supposed to dress as a supermodel. Another one that do-goaters really hate is hobo, which they think offends the homeless but a hobo isn't a homeless person. He's a classic character of American folklore, a loafer who survives by doing as little as possible. I believe the modern term for it is snowboarder. And anyway, if I was a bum,
Starting point is 00:53:13 I'd be thrilled someone wanted to dress up as me. They have bigger problems. When your life is begging strangers for food, every day is Halloween. You can get outraged over any costume if you try hard enough, Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz may seem innocent,
Starting point is 00:53:31 but isn't it insensitive to people who get caught in twisters? Or vampires, having the good people of Transylvania been stereotyped enough? Remember, drag lives matter. And here's the point. Banning a hobo costume
Starting point is 00:54:04 doesn't make the homeless feel better. It makes you feel better. This is the lazy liberalism in which scolding has become a substitute for actually doing something. And here's the thing. Reasonable people see self-righteous liberal busy bodies trying to leach the fun out of everything,
Starting point is 00:54:28 and they say, fuck, I'm going to vote Republican because I just can't stand being on the same team as these humorless jackoffs. Speaking of whom, the costume they have been wringing their hands over since August is the Caitlin Jenner. What message does it send?
Starting point is 00:54:48 None. It doesn't send any message, except if this guy is transitioning, he's got a long way to go. All right, that's our show. I'll be at the Stevens in Ames, Iowa, November 7th, at the Performing Arts Center in Providence,
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