Real Time with Bill Maher - Episode #398 (Originally aired 07/22/16)

Episode Date: July 23, 2016

Episode #398 (Originally aired 07/22/16) - Bill’s guests are Lt. General Michael T. Flynn, America Ferrera, Ian Bremmer, Ana Marie Cox and Jack Kingston. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maugh. Thank you very much. Thank you. So great to be back here. Thank you, folks. Great to be back.

I love you, too. Thank you. It's great to be back here at our normal time slot at Friday night, in our normal studio. We were covering the convention the last two nights.

If you were watching the convention last night, you probably watching now from your panic room. Did you see... Wow. Did you see Donald Trump's speech? If that speech was any darker, it would be shot by the police. It made me nostalgic

for the lighthearted remarks of Rudy Giuliani. He used the word violence a dozen times, murder half a dozen times, and that was just the part about Ted Cruz. I tell you, it was a rough speed. And another plagiarism scandal. Yeah, oh yeah. Now, it turns out Trump stole his speech, too,

from a saw movie. Partly from a saw movie and partly from Glenn Beck having a breakdown. He put those together. And if you didn't see it, to recap, okay, it's morning in America where the walls are streaked with blood. We're a shining city on a hill, which is where we will make our last stand against the zombies. And ISIS and illegal immigrants are coming to kill us all.

Unfortunately, there's no one to save us because Hillary wiped out the police with her email. So that's pretty much the state of America. Oh, yes, it's bleak out there. Bleak, oh. And who could save us? Who? Who? Who?

Is there one man who can... Oh, that's right, Donald Trump. That's right. In fact, we have a picture of his new campaign poster. Now, we have had 30 years to get used to Donald Trump's ego. Even I was not ready when he started to tick off every awful thing that's going on in the world and then said the words, I alone can fix it. Move over, Jesus. There's a new savior in town.

That's right. Only he. Only Donald Trump can stop Mexicans from raping us and setting our corpses on fire. Really? I can't even get the valet parker guys to stop changing the radio station. I don't know. No, Donald Trump said the crime and violence that afflicts our nation

will soon come to an end. January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored. Oh, fuck, he thinks he's Batman now. He's gonna restore safety, vanquers crime, and end violence. And then he's going to capture all the Pokemon. So it's going to really...

Really work out well for everything. Now, as to the question of how he's going to do all this, do not question Zod! Zero specifics. Not the slightest hint of how he's going to fix anything. Nothing. Even James Bond villains, when they tie you up, tell you their plan a little. But that's Donald Trump.

You know, he's a doer, not a talker. Any politician can talk about unemployment. He actually showed us. Scott Beo. And, of course, luckily for him, his daughter Ivanka, you saw that last. She came on before him to soften his image. She said her father was colorblind and

gender neutral. Well, that explains his makeup. Now, what about policy? But, okay. But I do have news. About an hour ago, we found out Hillary has picked Tim Cain as her vice presidential candidate.

Exactly. man who could possibly match the raw animal magnetism of Mike Pence. No, actually, Tim Cain, a smart choice, a lot of experience, helps her win Virginia, and most importantly, knows how to set up an email server. Okay, we've got a great show. Jack Kingston,

Aramoree Cox, and Ian Brimmer are here, and a little later we're sticking with the lovely and talented America Ferrara, but first up, he is the co-author of The Field of Fight, how we can win the global war against radical Islam and its allies who spoke of the GOP Convention on Monday. Please welcome

General Michael T. Flynn. General, how are you, sir? Hi, thank you. Blassing the peace sign. Wow. Why am I here? Because you're a general. You face much worse than this. Oh, my God. You think. We agree on some things, but I saw you at the convention.

It's good to see you smiling because you gave a pretty rough speech there where when people started to say, lock her up about Hillary, you encourage that. You don't really think Hillary deserves to be locked. Yeah, that's a slogan of frustration. That's what it is. It's really a slogan of frustration. Now the conventions are, but we find out what these things are. They're just frustration. But, I mean, you know, when it comes to reckless, I hear that said about Hillary. It seems to me that Donald Trump, really, if what you're worried about is reckless. Don't you think he's more reckless? Yeah, I think that my experiences with Donald Trump has been great. And honestly, I have been

I've been with him for probably a little bit less than a year now. With him? When I first met him, yeah. No, no. You're quick. It's not even what I meant. I just meant with him. I've been advising you for about a year.

So when he says the generals I see on TV, he's talking about you. That's right. One of them. That's right, one of them. But I don't understand how a military meant, and you have impeccable credentials. You've served our country,

honorably bravely. We thank you for that. I should know. I don't understand what the attraction is with Donald Trump. He said he was going to give money to veterans groups, and he didn't. It was a scam. He said John McCain wasn't a war hero. You know, he's... Yeah, when I first met Donald Trump, the first time I met him, I went up to his office in New York, and I sat down with him, and I said, first question, I said, are you serious? And then we had about an hour and a half conversation at that point in time, and he was great. And the one thing that I walked away from there with was this is a guy who could do far more things than dive into the political cesspool that we have right now. And frankly, he has taken on an unbelievable task to try to really

fix things from the perspective of what our government's been doing. I don't see the specifics. I mean, I think he's promising something he can't deliver. He's going to end violence. I mean, let's talk about what happened in Munich today. Horrible terrorist activity again. We don't have all the information. I just saw before I could not hear it. It was apparently a German person who also had... He's an Iranian with a German passport.

Okay. Very interesting situation. Right. Okay. Now, it could be anyone. It's probably Islamic terrorism. I think you and I agree on something that the administration, the current administration, doesn't do, which has put Islamic terrorism in its own category.

Yeah, I mean... There's all kinds of bad shit in the world. Right. I think we agree Islamic terrorism deserves its own category. Yeah, one of the things that I've been arguing is that, for many years, inside the government and then now, is the idea that is Islam and radical Islamists, this is a political ideology. People argue that it's a religion. This is a political ideology.

It's both, sir. It masks itself behind a religion. I mean, when you really look at it, and one of the things that I talk about is... One reason why religion is awful. It justifies terrible deeds. In this case, in this case... In this case, you're right when you're talking about this particular one, because there is a disease inside of this Islamic body.

It's like cancer, and it has metastasized. And if they don't fix it, we're going to have bigger problems. I mean, we're going to have serious, serious problems. And, you know, I've taken a lot of booing from liberals over the years on this issue. So have an eye. Not as brave as you. But, you know, you know, When I saw at the convention, when Trump mentioned LGBT.

Q. LGBTQ. Right. What is the Q? I don't think people even understand what Q means. It's questionable. Questioning. I didn't think that you'd even be its own category.

Well, I mean, I kind of questioned myself today when I got up. I mean, it's LGBTQ, whether or not I was, why was I coming on the show? Yeah, right. About that. Yes. Well, I'll tell you. But it's just, I mean, that's a serious thing. And I think that that's, it's so important that he said that.

And he recognized that, you know, in talking about Orlando and the attack on Orlando, because this culture of radical Islamism absolutely hates that sort of aspect of life. And we can't have that. But here's my point. I think every country in the world has a Tea Party. Now, you and I would disagree about what the Tea Party is. I would say they're the most conservative. That's charitable.

I think they're knuckle-draggers. But okay. and certainly in that hall are the tea-est of the tea party types. I don't drink tea. Okay. I do. You wouldn't like the kind I'd drink.

But a more bloodthirsty, less empathetic group of people you can't find in the world. And even they, when Trump said he would protect LGBT people, and these are a lot of Christians who think gay is a sin, They cheered. We should protect even.

This does not happen in a lot of parts of the Muslim world. Not at all. You would protect gay people. That would not go over well. And that is the difference between our cultures. And it's important that we do recognize the difference. It's seriously different. You know, one of the things that we, when we started to really capture members of al-Qaeda in Iraq in the 2004, 2005 time frame,

We were capturing a lot of their media that they had. And some of their media, in fact, most of it, about 80%. And I read about this in the book, had all kinds of pornography. I mean, these guys are about as sadistic and sick as you can imagine. When you start thinking about them screaming about their religion, quote-unquote, their religion, or this crazy ideology, yet what they do to women, what they do to boys and girls, young, it's the heart of it. It's sickening.

And that's why, and from my perspective, What I like to do is I actually would prefer that we capture these guys and expose their failures. I mean, expose them to the world stage. The more we go after them with some of the lousy strategy that we have right now and kill these guys, I mean, we need to get them, expose them to the world, to let them argue, you know, I mean, to all of us to say, here's why we think we're better than you are, because this is a religion of people. But here's where we differ.

Donald Trump's proposal for this to ban all Muslims. Are you on the board with that? Yeah, he's not saying ban old Muslims. He is. No, he's not. He's not saying ban all. Really? No, he's not.

I must be getting a bad translation. Well, first of all, yeah. Well, he did. We got to figure it out. First of all, we figured it out. Yeah, first of all, it's not a mystery. This president, our current president, wants to bring 100,000 refugees from Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq into our country. Now, okay.

Yeah, I'm not with them on that. Unless we're talking about women and children are different. It's the men who are the problem. Just like in this country. So now what we have to do, though, is we have to figure out, one, where they're coming from, what's their background. We have to make sure we understand who these people are, who these guys are. Does it matter? No, it matters a lot.

It matters a lot. I mean, last week, only a couple of days ago, an Afghan that went into, from Afghanistan, went into Germany, took an axe on a train and axed 17 people. four of those people were a mother and a father and their two children going out on a holiday and here he is hitting them with an axe so I mean this is an Afghan refugee that came in and there was no vetting there was no vetting. There was no vetting in the world

that will tell you that this is the person who's going to do that so I think we have to clean the country of all Muslims or you live with some of this some people but I don't think in America we'd have to worry about They didn't even have this guy on their radar screen. They didn't even have him on their radar screen. So, I mean, I think that we have to just do a better job of bringing these people. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that we're a nation of immigrants.

Come on. So I just think that we have to do a better job. We definitely, we have to be more clear to the American public about what radical Islamist is, what that means. And one of the reasons why I wrote this book was because our current government, our president, I mean, the president, you know, a couple of weeks ago, less than a couple of weeks ago, said, what difference does it make what we call this thing? I mean, it makes all the difference in the world. And when he says that, all that does is that confuses the American public.

It confuses all of us who don't understand it. Okay. Well, thank you. I'm glad you're ready for Hillary. General Flynn, everybody. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you coming on. Let's meet our panel.

I don't know if I convince him about everything. He is the president of the Eurasia group. Back with us is Ian Bremmer. Hey, Ian. Great to see you. He is the senior political correspondent for MTV News and columnist for New York Times

magazine. Anna Marie Cox, back with us. Hey, Anna. And one of my old favorite guests, the former Republican representative from Georgia, Jack Kingston, back over here. I'm going to, Jack. Great to be here.

Don't forget, we've got our Democratic National Convention coverage starting next Wednesday. That's right. Next week, we're also on Wednesday and Thursday, so join us for that. No overtime tonight, because I have to get to Vegas to do a show tonight. How that's going to happen? I don't know. All right, so for the Trump campaign, this Munich attack today had to be good news. I'm not saying they were rooting for it.

I'm just saying last night he gave a speech about how the world's coming apart, everything's so violent. I've been saying this for a long time. This is how Trump gets elected. Oh, yeah. Terrorism. It scares people. What should be the Democratic response to this? Well, I mean, I hope the Democratic response to this. I mean, is you have to acknowledge how horrible this is.

You have to acknowledge that it is a problem. No one disagrees that it's not. Right. I mean, but I think the only thing that Hillary really needs to do in the run-up here is actually just be the adult in the room and be the non-chaos candidate. I mean, right now, Donald Trump is sort of the candidate of chaos. Like, he is depicting a world around us that's dystopian and scary. No, he's presenting himself as a candidate who's going to stop chaos.

Right. Well, he's a candidate that will stop the chaos. But he brings up an image of a world in chaos. And actually, we are not a world in chaos. I mean, the number of... He was talking about violence in the streets last night. There were less than 8,000 people in the United States killed by homicide. Yeah, you know that.

People don't know that. You know how many people die by suicide? What they see on TV is this shit, like, almost every week. The world is certainly more chaotic. There's no question about that. There's a lot more chaos. There's a lot more inequality in the United States, and there was. There are a lot more people that feel like they have no alternative,

but to vote for something that's completely different. That's why we saw Brexit. Frankly, that's why we're seeing all of the rise of populism across Europe. That's why we're seeing the increase of terrorism. Now, the Europeans are getting it a lot worse than the Americans are. But if you really want to respond,

you know, you talked to General Flynn just now. Last night, I was there too. Trump was saying, now it's not from Muslim countries, but we're not going to accept anyone coming over from countries that aren't able to handle the terrorist problem. So apparently that now means Germany. Right. Germany brands and Brussels.

No, what it was there people who were compromised. I really think that Trump critics are putting too much in the wordsmithing on that. I think the reality is that what he's talking about is... Are you on the Trump train? I am on the Trump train. You are? Wow, I'm surprised. Well, originally I wasn't, but he's our nominee,

and I do think there is a degree of chaos in the world that has been caused by the Secretary of State. But he's presenting himself as a candidate who can solve this chaos, but he is reckless. I mean, you were talking about it. But think about this a minute. Think about this. Here's what happens when you have a terrorist attack, whether it's in Paris or San Bernardino or Nice or wherever.

It's always the Democrats. We need calm. We need to call for calm. And then we need to find out more about it. And the week goes by and, you know, how many of these calm times do we have to have? There's no calmness. It's more terrorist attacks. And it's because ISIS wasn't there when Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State.

It came under her watch. Of course they were. They just a different, oh, Jack, stop. There are a lot more organized in a row. No, no, no, no, no. You know what? Let me play a little audio. This is, the niece attack was what?

Last week, there's one every week. It's hard to keep in mind. That's the Obama world. Yeah, that's right. He's the guy who started that. That's right. Before Obama came along, there was no problem with terrorists. Thank God George Bush kept us safe, except that one day.

The acceleration. All right. You know what? Let me play this. Let me play this because I want to make this point. Here's Hillary responding to Neath, and then I want to play Donald Trump responding. This is surely to show you the political response. And it reminds us very vividly and tragically that we have to stand with our allies and not abandon them,

and we need to strengthen our alliances, including with NATO. Where's Trump? where's this is war if you look at it this is war coming from all different parts and frankly it's war

and we're dealing with people without uniforms yeah that's how you lose the election because her response we have to and him it's war and that's how is that NATO is obsolete

and that we should not be continuing to support an organization that isn't fit for purpose in the world Hillary Clinton's perspective is this is the institution we have we have to display leadership. We've committed to our allies, and we have to be with them. Those two worldviews are radically different from each other.

Now, I may agree with one. You may agree with the other. But what's interesting is Trump clearly is playing into a large populist wave that are saying why we do. I think the voters care about NATO or even know what it is. The voters definitely don't like the idea of Americans continue to pay for lots of stuff outside the country. That's why America first plays for him.

I don't like it. I don't like that either. I don't think we should have 50,000 troops in Germany. Hitler. We got him. They didn't really save his brain, you know. We don't really need to... But I think, I mean, if you think about Hillary, and it's always the same speech,

we've got to sit with our allies. Well, who has been Secretary of State? Who has been in the White House? Why is this not coming together? NATO does not deal with terrorism. That's not in the charter, and that's why they need to go back and revise things. There was an attack in Cologne, Germany, many attacks in Cologne and a few other cities on New Year's Eve. And it came out last week that it was way broader than we thought.

And the German federal police said there is a connection between the emergence of this phenomenon and the rapid migration of 2015. So it's easy to say Islamophobia. It's easy to say, oh, you're being xenophobic, you're racist. I think the people all over the world who are facing this deserve a little better than that. I mean, there is a clash of cultures here. There is a reason why those attacks happened, because we do not have the same values as some of these people coming over from the Middle East.

That's just the truth. Especially about women. And I don't understand why liberals in this country don't get behind that. One of the key planks of liberalism is women should be treated equally. Which is where I'd rather live here than in the Middle East. But you have to argue, I guess the debate is whether or not you think that the ideology, the Islamophobic Islamic ideology, this anti-women, anti-gay ideology, can withstand exposure to the liberty of the United States.

Like, I don't think it can. Like, I think our liberty, our argument for liberty and our argument for rights wins when people are exposed to it. Wins when people live in a free society. So I think being exposed to the wonderful, you know, culture we have here. Most, I would argue. Most, because most Muslims are not committing terrorism. But you know what? It wins and it doesn't at the same time.

That's just something that goes on with terrorists. They enjoy America, but they also feel kind of guilty about it. But remember also, when you're talking about it, Syria is one of the oldest civilizations in the entire world. And it's not like, well, suddenly they need American. These countries, many of them have devolved backwards because of the instability of the Middle East. And ISIS has appeared because of that. And you know what, Bill? You're right. They were there out in different

forms, but now they're regrouped and they're more organized than ever. And open your borders without filtering well, who actually is coming in and who isn't. That's an irresponsible policy. Let's be clear. They're not coming to the United States or Canada. They're overwhelmingly coming to Europe and even more so to Turkey

and the Middle East. And the fact is that those countries, they are not disposed to integrate. The United States does a better job over time actually bringing these people into the fabric of society. In places like France, in Belgium, they're living in slums, they're not integrating.

And furthermore, the police can't get inside those groups. They can't figure out who's a potential radical. And that's, as a consequence, really leaving... I live in Minneapolis where actually it's one of the places where you get some Syrian refugees, and you know who's hosting those people? Evangelical Christians. And they're

hosting them and they're showing them this country, and we have, like, a great... That'll screw them up pretty bad. Our country is... You know, like, I mean, it's... But, okay, but, you know, there's three million Muslims in America, and I don't think that's where the problem is. Right. There's a billion and a half in the world.

Right. Now, I was in Munich, and I think Vienna, about five years ago, and especially in Vienna, you'd see a lot in the summer, anyway, a lot of Muslim women walking down the street in the full black ensemble, just covered head to toe, which I think is sick to begin with. Don't tell me that's their culture. That's fucking sick to cover a woman.

like that. And I... And really, you don't think so? I mean, I have a trouble like sort of making a statement about each individual woman's choice. If it's not a choice, if it's not a choice, if it's not a choice, it's sick.

Well, but if it's a choice... It's brainwashing. But you know, women actually did have a choice in Afghanistan in the 1970s, 1980s, and when the Taliban came over it, they imposed... My point is, you'd see all these women with the total black thing on, and then you'd

a, you know, a Viennese woman in a sundress because, you know, it's a minority, the people in the burqas. Right. If they were 51% of the population, if Muslims were 51% of the population, do you think the person in the sundress would be allowed to wear that?

Because my problem with Islam is that the moderates don't win. We had the Arab Spring. They didn't win. They didn't win, except with our health. Tunisia. Yeah. Tunisia.

Lots of places. Right. I mean, you're describing it. describing a dystopia, and that sounds horrible, but that's not what exists. They aren't. Like, those people in the burghers, they aren't. They aren't. But I'm saying if they were. But it really is the extremism bill. I don't think that's going to happen. You know, if you look at, well, not tomorrow.

But if you look at Bangladesh, or you look at Indonesia, these are Islamic countries, and they do not have that kind of oppression that is growing in the Middle East. Bangladesh, they're killing bloggers left and right. Are you kidding? But certainly, the point is that Islam comes in different manifestations, radical Islam. But immigrants, historically, one of the things that helped really integrate these people in the United States is that we actually needed the labor, right? And increasingly, that is an open question. In Germany, you think they need the labor, and yet the people coming from Syria don't have the education.

And with automation, AI, and all the rest, they're saying they're not dealing. If there's no space, it becomes a Syria to help. There is a civil war going on in this culture. We should stand with the people who want to live in the 21st century, not the ones who want to live in the 7th. Okay, so as long as I'm shitting on religion, let me just say, I think the Republican Party has a massive savior complex because what Donald Trump was saying last night,

only people who are very religious would fall for that, that I alone can handle all the problems because I am, it sounded like Jesus was coming back to Earth. Yeah, this is, you're the Cheeto Jesus theory, the Circus Peanut Messiah. No, Jesus, I have not heard of that. But I actually, I mean, for one thing, I mean, if you met a Unitarian, like, I don't think they would, they're not very disposed to authoritarian regimes. How many, how many?

But I'm going to say, like, I actually also think the main problem with that theory is that he, that implies some kind of spiritual component to his appeal, and there's not one. No, I'm saying people who believe in, people who believe in magical thinking, people who don't apply critical thinking as religious people don't. Well, do you think any other? I mean, do you think that's a problem for only religious Americans? Do you think they're the only religious Americans? Yes. Bill, I remember... When you believe in a savior, then it's a lot easier than...

But Bill, what about the coronation of Barack Obama in the Denver Stadium? The coronation? Yes, when he ascended into power and accepted his nomination of the party... He never said to his slogan when, yes, we can, not I alone. He goes to a football stadium. If he is... Jack, Obama never said, I alone can solve this. If he did, your head would have it exploded.

I think he had all of his fonding people. Really? You know what? That doesn't bother you a man saying I alone can fix this? I think what he was saying is, look, the system is rigged. That's what he said. What do you mean? Big business and big government have stacked the odds against the middle-class guy. You know what?

Obama said, Obama was the antithesis. Obama said you didn't build that. I'm going to share some way. You didn't build that is exactly the opposite of I'm your only hope. But I don't think that Trump is fundamentally appealing to the religious. No. Or even magical thinking, I think he's fundamentally appealing to the people to think that there is no option in Washington or among CEOs or among the media or among any politicians for them.

It's very similar to the Brexit conversation in Europe. It's Palestinians with the rock. It's not going to accomplish anything. Trump isn't going to fix it, but he is going to get rid of the bums. That's who appeals to. Really ruthlessly rooted in personal safety in the immediate environment. Right. Like, it's not about any kind of spiritual or value-based, you know, analysis of what's going on.

It's just a completely dystopian view of the world based on, you know, the purge. It's presenting a bunch of bullshit and then saying, I'm the antidote to this bullshit we just created. Yeah, exactly. I mean, some of the lies, you know, things like Hillary is for the repeal of the Second Amendment. That's just a flat-out lie. It doesn't bother you when they just lie like that. What Democrats has ever come out

for the repeal of the Second Amendment? Well, there are a number of them in Congress who... Come out of the repeal of the Second Amendment? I've never heard that. I'm the repeal of the Second Amendment. They aren't.

Like when they say, oh, the Democrats, they're atheists. They're an atheist. This is where he's happened into, though. This is where he's tapped into. He says that the trade agreements are broken. This is the same appeal Bernie Sanders had. He says that the war in the Middle East

was a mistake. Hillary Clinton embraced the war in the Middle East. He says that I am funding my own campaign. I cannot be bought and sold. Hillary Clinton is bought and sold. I mean, the Clinton Foundation receiving millions and millions of dollars while she was Secretary of State. That should bother

everybody. It so does. I can barely go on. I can tell I'm moving you, brother. Okay, all right. You're going to like this, because we have been having some fun with this. 25 things you don't know about me. Hillary did this in Us Magazine in April,

so we've done a bunch of the other candidates and we thought we would circle back, because this is her big week coming up, to 25 more things. You don't know about me. Hillary Clinton, things like, my Secret Service name is Nutcracker.

It takes me 72 hours to be spontaneous. Like a lot of liberal-minded girls, when I was in college, I briefly experimented, with heterosexuality. Come on, have a sense of humor. I have a bumper sticker that says my other car is whatever you drive.

I'm surprised that nobody has noticed that I've switched from pantsuits to spacesuits. I have a really funny story about the time Bill mistook the hot sauce in my purse for lube. People who claim I killed Vince Foster have no proof, do they? When I

I'm with you, Jack. When I lack in political skills, I make up for her with an insane cackle that makes you want to blow your head off. My nicknames for my boobs are Goldman and Sacks. I want to spend more time with my grandchildren, but they can't afford my speaking fee.

All right, she is an activist and actress who stars in NBC's Superstore starting its second season on September 22nd, America Ferraro. Hey. What a great pleasure to meet you. How are you doing? Likewise.

I'm good. Sit right down there. Okay, America. Now, you are a surrogate for Hillary Clinton. What is a surrogate? I know what a supporter is, but I'm not sure what a surrogate is. Well, I'm a supporter, and I just travel the country into different cities and just talk about why I support Hillary.

And you were with her from the beginning. I mean, you're not like, oh, I was for this guy and this guy, and now it's Hillary. You're, you, this is your girl. Yeah, I was out campaigning in 2008 as well. So, you watched the Republican convention? I sure did. Must have been hard to watch that. Well, I listened, and I could only take it in like small doses.

I am the same way. It was hard to take. But would you care to offer a rebuttal to the people of the convention who said that she should be locked up? How much time do we have? Plenty. You know, what I came away with was, first and foremost, a stomach ache. because it makes me physically ill. You know, it does.

It makes me sick to think about the lies. They're applauding you getting sick. The lies. Yeah, thank you. Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. A lot of lies. And one issue that I care deeply about because I happen to be Latino American

is immigration. And he could not have been more wrong. He's just wrong. He's wrong. About the fact that immigrants are criminals. Right. Where, in fact, because there are such things as facts... Yes.

In fact, criminals are... Criminals, sorry. See, he's got you doing. He's got me. Immigrants are less... Immigrants, undocumented or documented, are less likely to commit crimes. You know who drives perfectly Latinos? Because they don't want to fuck with the police.

Everybody else in L.A. drives... like a maniac. I met a woman in Arizona. You get behind a truck with a lawnmower. Never, ever does anything wrong. It's true. That's stereotyping, though. Maybe so, but it's true.

I met a woman in Arizona who doesn't play her music because if she plays it too loud and she's an American documented. She's like, if they pull me over, I will go crazy and they will shoot me. I don't play my music. Then we're saying the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what I just said. Yes, exactly. You're stereotyping. Yeah. But he was wrong about criminals. And he was wrong. about the economy. I mean...

Okay, so here's the thing. Donald Trump is getting zero percent of the black vote, which is really hard to do. To get zero? To get 100% of people to agree on. Well, that's what happens when you don't disavow the Ku Klux Klan.

Right, okay. Yeah. But he's getting... I think in Pennsylvania in Ohio, he's getting zero percent, and he's nearing that nationally. But not so with the Hispanic vote. I would think they would hate him even more. Who were these Hispanic people who were for Trump? Well, here's the thing, I think, is that Latino Americans are Americans, which people don't want to believe.

But we are Americans. Your name is American. My name, and I have a pin. Yeah, in case we forgot your name. Just in case you forgot. Latino Americans are Americans, and they care about the same things that all Americans care about. So, of course, there's going to be a portion of the Latino American population that is angry and sees endowment. Trump a channel for that anger.

But by no means is there even close to equanimity or a majority of Latinos who are out there for Trump. What we've seen in the nation and what we've seen... It's just odd to me that there's any. And the good news... It's odd to me, too. Oh, it's mind-boggling. But the good news is that in California,

we've seen record registration among Latinos in this state. So I see that the... And for the Democrats, not for the Republicans. Yes. I see that the Never Bernie people are showing up in Philadelphia next week. And I'm wondering what your message is...

You mean Never Hillary? Never, Hillary? No, I'm sorry. Did you say Never Bernie? I mean, Bernie or Bus? Bernie or Bus? People are showing... Yeah.

Bernie or Buzz people, right, thank you. Are showing up in Philadelphia. What is your message to the Bernie folks who can't seem to get on board in Hillary? I think it's... You know, there's only two choices on the menu. That's what I say to them. Do you really want to eat poison vomit?

Yeah. I think that it's reckless, and I think that there's a political reality, and one of these two people is going to be the next president of the United States, most likely. And to sit around and not make a choice is to make a choice. You are making a choice by sitting around and not getting on board. And not only registering, I mean, I'm sure Bernie supporters are registered to vote,

But it's not enough anymore for us to be registered and show up ourselves. We need to register our friends, our families, our communities. And, you know, it's hilarious that every election, every presidential election, two months before the election, everybody's like, how do we turn out the minority vote? You're too little too late. Like every year is an election year. And you can't just show up to communities that are under-resourced and under-educated about civics. and that there is an active campaign against voter rights in this country. Right, it's hard to vote in America for more.

I mean, we don't have it like a lot of countries do on the weekends, right? And you know who's making it harder? Of course we do. It's a Republican. Right. Because that's how they win elections. They cheats. They cheats.

That's how they win. They cheat. I have to give you guys more credit than you apparently give your own people. You can vote 30 days in advance in most states and it is simple. It's not simple. It's not simple. It's not simple if you're on the ballot. It's not simple if you're a single mother.

He's had his name on the ballot. I can promise you. I'll tell you this. I will be glad to talk to any of your friends or your friends and explain to them how easy it is. You guys, you're just doing this rhetoric because it stirs up. No, no, no. Jack. In Maricopa County in Arizona, they reduced after the Supreme Court ruling gutting the...

Voting Rights Act. They took the dead people off the rolls. No, no. They reduced the number of polling places from 400 to 60. That's why they were lines. That's why people... In Ohio, they reduced early voting. In Ohio, they...

They don't want them voting. I don't know why you guys can't give your people more credit. They can get to the polls. This is a rhetorical thing. Can I say something? And I want to say when we talk about lies, the rhetorical lie is that there's such a thing as voter fraud. There's voting rights acts in 17 states that preserve and protect the rights of the minorities. Absolute, not just in 17 states, but in other counties and cities like Chicago and parts of New York City.

I really want to speak to this because I think that these are, this is the lie and the lack of nuance that confuses people. Because it promotes the lie that Latinos and people of color don't show up because they're lazy and they don't care. That is a lie. I'm not the one saying it. Latino people who have to follow up minimum wage jobs that they have to take a day off to travel 20 miles to get to the nearest government office to get an ID that costs their money. I promise you I've been on the ballot before. I've represented a rural area. What does that have to do with this?

Because I know how to work. I mean, I don't understand. I know how to get on the ballot has nothing to do with voting in the ballot. Let's not pretend. You're saying that there's everywhere in the country there's absentee ballot. There is. It is very simple. In my daughter, let's not pretend.

And the physical apathy in this country is high. That's true, too. And the reason the Brits ended up leaving Europe, the biggest own goal ever shot in the history of developed country is because people under 24 didn't show up. Like 34% of them bothered. They didn't care. In America, you want to see a bad outcome in this country?

If people don't give a damn. And that is easily an outcome we can see in now. Why, everybody's fired up tonight. And I want to say one thing to that. I promise you, I'm going to get to Georgia and show you how easy it is. It is not. This is really important. This is a historic election, right?

We either going to elect the first female president or the last president period. Part of this. Last president. People need to be a part of this. Donald Trump, it is a non-trivial chance. There's a non-zero chance that he does something in the same. Because we've been assuming that we are ready for the first female president. president. Are we really? Because I think

we thought after Obama got elected, we thought, oh, you know, that's over. America's come around to a black president. We didn't realize that half the country was emailing each other cartoons with him with a watermelon in his hand. I am wondering whether America is still at this

late date when 80 countries have elected a woman leader. Bill, can I just say that I just find that to be a really boring question? Yeah. Like, are we ready for a female president? Well, nice to have you on the show too. I agree. Well, are you ready? Your question isn't, are we ready?

We just don't care about sex anymore, okay? Well, no. Let me show you a little video to maybe load my case. Roger Ailes, we found out this week, stepping down from Fox News, sexual harassment. We are the first show to obtain this video. It is, we found video of Roger Ailes doing what he did. Please show it. There he is with Megan Kelly.

There he is with Daniel Lash of Fox News. And I think we have something with Gretchen Carlson. There he is. Okay. Excuse me. Sorry. But it is a real question. I think your question is not, are we ready for a female president?

Is it electing a female president in sexism, which of course the answer is no? I mean, did you see the convention? All the signs that called her a bitch? Right. And, you know. Well, I didn't say. any signs that called her a bitch. I saw a few signs that said lock her up, but I didn't see any of this even that's ridiculous. I saw I saw t-shirts and signs that said like that had that used that word.

Well that wasn't a Republican. That's a good old entrepreneur out on the street. That's America. They're out there. It was there was a lot of ugliness out there. A lot of ugliness. And targeted. And there were people buying it. This is just liberal rhetoric. Everything's broken. Now, you guys were the one saying that Donald Trump's the one who's saying everything's broken. No, I mean, do you really? think the Republican Party, I mean, just straight out, you think the Republican party is printing T-shirts that says Hillary Clinton's a bitch? No.

Well, that's what we were just implied. No, but people who belong to the Republican party are. You could buy that. Republicans are buying them. I saw actual Republicans buying those T-shirts. I mean, the Republican, I mean, they're spending Republican money and voting Republican. You know, I love the First Amendment and their right to do that.

Wait, you keep on dodging every question with like some kind of like, what's your question? The question is, like, is there a strain of bigotry? running through the Republican Party. And I think I'm going to tell you that having been on the floor at this convention and seeing people literally foaming at the mouth. Literally. Literally.

Literally foaming out of the back of my neck from the guy behind me. I was from Giuliani, to be fair. From the guy behind me shouting, Lovaccar, up. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was in Cleveland. Where were you? I just missed the whole thing.

All right. I got three minutes left for the panel. Tim Kane. Who is this guy? Why did she pick him? What does he bring? Is it going to help or hurt? The dull candidate just got duller, in my opinion.

Which is her brand. He's a guy who's very pro-trade. She just slapped the Bernie Sanders people in the face. He supports offshore drilling. He has supported repeal of the death tax. I mean, he is not from the exciting end of the liberal community. I wanted you people to have a good earple on the ticket. When I hear the words like dull and not exciting, I'm like, we're not electing prom king and everything.

Right. So true. I don't want the prom king and queen running the government. You didn't like Obama for the last seven years? And by the way, Jack, you can read her emails all 30,000. They're all erased. No, they're not a race. And what they reveal is a wunk who does. the work of government.

She's working. You know, yes. You're right. Boring is good in government. If we elected exciting president, we deserve it. Would you agree? One of the great appeals of Donald Trump is that he's not bought and sold.

I don't think anything about Donald Trump has appeal at all. Well, that's okay. That's okay. That's okay. But you have to, you have to remember this. The number of voters in the Republican primary was up 60% in the Democrat primaries. It was down 20%.

People find him appealing whether you do in Hollywood or not. It's got nothing to do with Hollywood. I'm not here as a celebrity. I'm here as a person who has a lot to lose in this election. I think no one should know how to buy and sell a presidency more than Donald Trump. His daughter Ivanka is on the stage a couple hours afterwards. She's in her outfit. It's online and she says, here's how you can buy it through Macy's.

I'm going to make a few bucks on it. By the way, it's not made in America. That's not commercial. I don't know what is. I really don't. And this whole idea that, you know, Donald Trump doesn't have any corporate backing. He got $2 billion of free media. That's corporate backing.

Well, that wasn't the choice of Donald Trump. That was the media that made that choice. But, I mean, he's done everything out there. He is excited, and I would disagree. Uber has changed transportation. In my opinion, you need Uber and politics to change the Washington, D.C. establishment. You've got to have the...

That's gibberish. You got to have the introduction. No, no, no. I think the hash brownie act. I don't know what he's saying. That's horrible. Let me explain it. Uber is an economic disruptor.

Just like Facebook, economic disruptors. You need a disruptor in politics. By your logic, it changed the system. Hillary is the Uber president because you can do you order her. She's bought and sold. Right. She's bought and sold. I don't understand what you're saying.

Like, also, all of that. Let me explain it. No, no. I would love to, but we have to move on. What were the name of the Goldman Sachs? What was the reference earlier than that? That was your tits. Okay. Thank you, Plano.

It's time for New Rules, everybody. New Rules. Neurole experts in optical illusions must tell me why when two women say the exact same words, some people see a gold woman in a white dress, and others see a black woman in a blue dress. New Rule, now that health officials in Hugo, Colorado, have warned people

that their water contains high levels of THC. They have to tell residents one thing. How the hell are we going to get the kids out of the pool? Newroll, just because Donald Trump mentioned gay people last night doesn't mean he really cares. In fact, I bet that until someone corrected him during rehearsal, he thought LGBTQ was pronounced LGBTIQ. New rule, now that Bill Cosby's eye disease

is so bad he's reported to be completely blind, he has to look on the bright side. So is your wife. I love the booing into applause. Fuck you. Oh, you're right. Okay. New Rule, now that Japan is closing the last factory on Earth

that makes VCRs, we could stop calling sex tapes, sex tapes. And millennials have to stop pretending that vinyl is the only way to listen to music and start pretending that VHS is the only way to watch a movie. Oh, the warmth. the depths, the subtle grades of tone.

I'm telling you, bra, you haven't seen Crocodile Dundee until you've seen it on BHS. And finally, new rule, now that the Republican Convention is finally over, those of you thoroughly disgusted by what you witnessed have to look on the bright side. Win or lose, Donald Trump

will probably be the last 50s guy to run for president. And frankly, that is something to be thankful for. Because Because 50s guys, you know, guys like Trump who actually say, I'm a 50s guy. We know what they mean. I think that putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing. When I come home and dinner's not ready, I go through the roof.

Yeah. The 50s guy. He likes steak. He keeps a bottle of scotch in his desk, and he thinks an educated woman should be locked up. I don't. He does. You know, Bill Critton really nailed it when he said, if you thought something good came out of the 60s, you're probably a Democrat,

and if you thought the 60s were bad, you're probably a Republican. And it's insights like that that are going to make him a great first lady. But that tension between 50s and 60s people is what still drives our politics today. It's true. You either think the 50s were great or the 60s were great, or you weren't even born yet and you think, screw all you old farts, I'm voting for someone young like Bernie Sanders. Now, to 60s people like me, the 50s,

are kind of like America's high school yearbook picture. With each passing year, they just get more and more embarrassing. But not to Donald Trump. He was born exactly nine months after the end of World War II. He could have been conceived on this day when America was on top of the world and the young Trump family was, by all accounts, very happy. When Trump was a kid,

Eisenhower was always president. Dinner made by mom was always on the table. And the closest thing to an ethnic guy was Fonzie. People are a product of the time they grow up in. It's why Trump still wears a pompadour. Albeit one that's lost the will to live. If you're a 50s guy, even when you try to join the modern world, it's useless. Oh, look at my African American over here.

Look at him. Not that they really want to, but... really want to because for Trump and his fans, what was so great about the 50s was that white men didn't have to really try. He complains about rigged systems, but the 50s was the ultimate rigged system. For example, basketball teams looked like this.

Trump was 10 when Elvis burst on the scene, and while other people had made music like that before, only Elvis had the insight to do it while being white. In the 50s, everybody knew their people. place and stayed in their lane. Lesbians were called roommates. And gay men were called priests. On a resume, a man could list sexual harassment under special

skills. A tank of gas cost a nickel. And on a starry night, you could drive up to make-out point in your big gas-guzzling American car and get a handjob. From a girl. And nobody ever asked you to check your privilege. You didn't have to check. It was there all right. So when Republicans talk about restoring America,

making it great again, taking their country back, this is where they want to take it back to. 1959, when life was still in black and white, before the 60s came along and ruined everything with color. Trump never fully adapted to color. That's why he's orange. Like the first color TVs, his tent knob is a little off. And he and all the 50s guys like him hold a deep resentment for those troublemakers and outside agitators who came along in the 60s and messed everything up by pointing out that the 50s weren't that great if you were black or gay or a woman, which is why little Richard was always screaming.

All right. That's our show. I'll be at the ovens in Charlotte. August 19th and Arrival in Nashville August 20th. Remember we got our Democratic National Convention shows starting next Wednesday. I want to thank Ian Bremer, Annamorea, Anna Marie Cox, Jack Kingston, America Ferrar and Lieutenant General Michael D. Flynn.

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