Real Time with Bill Maher - Episode #403 (Originally aired 09/16/16)

Episode Date: September 17, 2016

Episode #403 (Originally aired 09/16/16) - Bill’s guests are Kellyanne Conway, Kerry Washington, Adam Gopnik, Margaret Hoover and Ralph Reed.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maugh. That's right. Oh my gosh. Thank you very much. Yes, we've been off for five weeks. This is what I missed, the love of the good people of America here in the heartland.

But I tell you, when I left, Hillary had a big lead. What the fuck happened there? Which has completely evaporated. The convention back. They say the race is tightening. My asshole is tightening. That's what's tightening. I'm like this until the...

I... I said this from the beginning. Don't be complacent. Be very afraid. I'm very worried. I saw a bumper sticker the other day on somebody's car. It said, I'm deplorable and I vote. I mean...

Jesus Christ, I thought Hillary had this in the bag. All she had to do... is not fall off the sidewalk on 9-11. I don't need Trump to build a wall. I need Hillary to build a ramp. But she was back on the... Can't keep that old girl down, I tell you. She was back on the campaign trail yesterday.

She came out in North Carolina at a rally to James Brown's, I feel good. The song she really should use is that one from Dream Girls, and I am telling you, I'm not going. And you and you are going... love me. That's really.

But, you know, now that health is the big issue with the campaign, Trump, you saw this, went on Dr. Oz, this week. Remember when Trump, like, six months ago, everybody made fun of him because he released a one-page letter from a quack doctor?

Okay, well, now he got serious. He went on Dr. Oz and had a one-page letter from the same quack doctor. The art of the deal, baby, I tell you. I mean, is that not the most ridiculous

thing you ever? It's like, my doctor says I'm great. I'd like a second opinion. Well, he says my dick is big too. What the hell? And I love this. Right-wing conspiracy nuts, and there are plenty of those out there, think that Hillary never really

recovered from the pneumonia. That's a body double, they say. It's out there. That's a double. You know what? Even if that were true, I'm fine with it. I... would happily vote for the body double over the Tangerine Nightmare any day of the week. My slogan is, ready for body double.

You know, ready for Hillary? Anyway, the point doesn't matter. We're on to the next one already, but... But it's so funny, and they think, a body double, as if you could keep that a secret in America. You cannot keep anything a secret in America anymore. You can't even keep what you want to be secret. Did you see Colin Powell had his emails hacked this week?

oh my god, boy, did he go after Trump. I mean, we shouldn't be reading it, but we did. Said Trump was a national disgrace, said he was an international pariah, said he was a racist. And of course, Trump fired back. He said, I am not a racist, and you, sir, are no longer one of the good ones.

I kid the Trump's. What a lovely family. Did you see what Don Jr. said yesterday? Fuckface, Trump. as I call him Dushbag Mon fuckface Trump Uh Winy little bits

Now that's the father Dushbab Von fuckface is the son And the other son is Thurston shitbag The third Uh And Ivanka is Marilyn Munster

That's the family Okay We've got the family now But But John Jr. Says the media So in the tank For the Democrats

That whatever they do is okay But if the Republicans did the same thing. They would be, quote, warming up the gas chambers. Now, look, the liberals were all like. He's talking hollic. No, he's not.

He was just an idiot. But warming up the gas chamber, is this an expression? People use this routine. You know, fellas, I gotta get home. You know the wife. If I'm 10 minutes late, she's warming up the gas chamber.

Okay. But the big news today, I'm burying the lead here, that Trump officially announced that Obama was born in America. Like, that's up to him to pronounce. Your papers seem to be in order, Mr. Obama. Your family may stay inside the wall. So, if you are keeping score, Obama born in America,

Trump supporters, born yesterday. And it's funny, you know, he's been fanning the flames of this birtherism for five years. Yesterday, he calls this today. Called the press conference in his new hotel in Washington. All the press, of course, go there to see what he's got a big announcement about birtherism.

Gives a 30-minute infomercial about his stupid new hotel at the very end. He says, President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period, mic drop. And then he followed that with a heartfelt apology and a thoughtful meditation on American racism. I'm kidding. He blamed it on Hillary. Of course, he blamed it

because even when he admits he lies, he has to tell another giant lie. He says Hillary, in her campaign, started birtherism in 2008, which is something contradicted only by newspapers, television, Twitter, eyes, ears, and smell. Hillary started birtherism? Oh, yes, I think we all remember that.

I think it was right after Hillary's. casinos went bankrupt. I think she was still married to Ivana at the time. But screwing around with Marla Mables. Anyway, I guess now that he has done that, I have to be the bigger man and also admit that Trump's father

wasn't really... Oh, look at the picture. Who the fuck am I kidding? I'm hearing... I'm not saying I'm hearing a lot of people are saying it. All right, we got a great show. Margaret Hoover, Ralph Reed, and Adam Gopnik are here in a little of me speaking with. Carrie Washington is back with us.

Finally. And first up, she is president and CEO of the polling company and campaign manager for you-know-who. Mr. Donald Trump. We thank her for being here. Kelly Ann Conway is joining us by satellite. Hey. Hey, Bill. Kelly Ann, first of all, I have to thank you.

You have been doing our show for over 20 years. one of our original blonde conservatives, along with Anne Coulter, who's still a friend of mine, to the consternation of many. But you did not give up on us now that you have become Donald Trump's campaign manager. You stuck it out, and I thank you for being here. I'm happy to go into it. And I must say, I have mixed emotions. First of all, you are enabling pure evil.

Come on, Bill. On the other hand, I'm like so proud. I mean, you started here. You were just a child star on our show. And now you're perhaps the most important person in the world, because you seem to be the only person who's been able to tame Donald Trump. Many have tried, but only you were able to pull that sword out of the stone. How did you do it? Well, I don't see it that way.

I think, look, I walk in the Trump Tower every day to the campaign, and I'm quickly reminded that Donald Trump did very well for himself long before I arrived. before I arrived. I just feel like every leader needs the right environment, the right players around them, for them to be them. And he's out there showcasing his generosity, his, I think his great sense of humor, his love of the country and of people. And you know, Bill, hold on. You're so good at what you do. As are you. That's it. You're so good. I'm so ver-climped that you... But plainly, you know... And this Catholic girl from Jersey knows what that means.

But look, I just want to tell you one thing that you and I have been talking for over two decades now, which is a real pleasure and a privilege. Thank you for calling me your friend and for giving me a platform with all those swing voters in your audience tonight. There are. No, no. I mean, there are. There are. Okay, good. Oh, we're frustrating them.

We have a much bigger audience than all the other stupid shows that the other politicians do. And speaking of politicians, Bill, that's what I wanted to say to you. And I know. I know Donald Trump, because of you, is trying to reach those suburban people. That's our audience. And some of them are on the fence. And that's why I heard today Donald Trump encouraged you to do this show. He did.

I wanted to tell you that. He said to say hello. When he heard I was invited, he said, you have to go on that show. That is true. He did. And many politicians are afraid to go on your show, but he's not a politician. I actually didn't hear that. You know, he sued me once.

He did? How'd that go? Well, as soon as a judge saw it, of course, he laughed and threw it out of court. Hey, Bill. I'll tell you who's not laughing, though. I've got to tell you who's not laughing. I've been to these rallies. I've been to these fairs. This guy has really created the movement, and people feel like they're part of it. And I want to tell you, you and I have been talking for two decades about the problem with politicians. This guy's an outsider, a disruptor, a change maker, and he's not running for the reason. Many people run in politics. politics, which is, it's my turn. I'm next in line. I went money, fame, status, power. He already had all of that. And he and his family are making tremendous sacrifices just to do this. And when I travel around with him, people don't stop him, Bill, and say, I liked you on the apprentice, or I want your autograph. They say, we need jobs in this state. Or please save our country. I know you don't like that. But that's what the people saying. We have to respect people. I'm sure they're watching

tonight. Well, I don't have to respect all the people. I don't. I don't. And I don't. No, I don't have to respect all the people. I mean, Hillary was right when she's called a lot of his supporters deplorable, because a lot of what they believe is deplorable. But we wouldn't even get into that. But I mean...

She was wrong. But I'm glad we saw her true feelings for once. She doesn't really give them. And by the way, she said deplorable just about 12 hours after her campaign said she's going to become more uplifting and aspirational so the voters can see what's in her heart in midst all the cacophony and noise and what has she done ever since?

She's been negative, negative, negative. The Democratic Party I grew up in was always very uplifting and aspirational. They elevated and elected people like JFK and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Her message is anti-Trump. She doesn't have a positive message. If you were running against Donald Trump,

your message would be anti-Trump too. And by the way, you say, at least she sticks to the facts in her anti-message. Donald Trump has said, Hillary will repeal the Second Amendment. Is that your understanding of what she has said in the past? He said she wants to release all violent criminals from jail.

She wants to release all of them. Is that when you've heard her say she wants to repeal the Second Amendment and release violent criminals? She has actually said that she doesn't like the Heller decision, which was the Supreme Court decision that held that individuals have a private right to bear arms under the Second Amendment. She's pretty hostile to that. She actually has been very critical of President Obama because she think he hasn't gone far enough on open borders, and he's been, he's deported many people in this country. So, look, Bill, you in one hour show, you cover more issues and more substance, and she covers in a month. She doesn't talk about issues. When's the last time she gave a speech on taxes, on the middle class, on education, on health care?

She just doesn't do it. All right. I don't have time to go through all of his lives. We only have an hour. But let's... I can bat them all down. Go. Let's do it. Come on.

Come on, Bill. But let's just divide it for the moment between the scary and the false. Now, let's start with the scary. She, Hillary said at the end of her convention speech, you can't trust a guy who can be baited with a tweet with nuclear weapons. Okay, just in the last couple of weeks,

what he has said is, Iranian sailors have made obscene gestures at our boats so we should blow them out of the water, and that when the Chinese didn't provide the proper red carpet, when Obama landed there, he would turn the plane around. Isn't she right? Is he really a man who has the temperament? Honestly, Kelly Ann, 20 years of friendship?

Is she really the person? Is he the person to be in the Oval Office? Yes, and by the way, speaking of baited, he is occupying serious real estate in her head. I mean, who's been losing in the polls? Who seems very rattled and not very nimble off of her script these days? As you said in your monologue, what the heck happened? You said it a little bit differently, but I'll clean it up.

What the heck happened? I mean, she had this in the bag. Every story was, look at the polls, the race is over. Look at the polls, the race is over. So let's do look at the polls now four or five weeks later. We're winning in some of these swing states that Mitt Romney lost where she was way ahead because she thought she would just, it would just be a complete blowout that she just had to bide her time, sit on her lead, wait out the clock. She tried to do that against Bernie

Sanders. He won 22 states. She tried to do against Barack Obama in 2008, and he whooped her and he won. And so I actually think we're going to win, Bill. You know it. You feel it. I think you're getting nervous. Oh, I am getting nervous. But it's not because Trump is good. It's because people are stupid. That's why I'm getting nervous. That's something Hillary will say. That's something that's something that. I'll tell you why I'm getting nervous, and I'll do it with a Donald Trump quote from the art of the deal. He said, I play to people's fantasies. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. I call it lying. Here are some lies. I

never, I don't know anything about David Duke, utter lie. Vladimir Putin and I are best friends. He never met him. He got a letter from the NFL, which was proved never happened. He gave money to the veterans when he didn't. I was against the Iraq war when he plainly, it's on tape, said he was not. How do you answer to the fact that this man just says whatever he wants at the moment, in the moment, to get whatever point he wants across, regardless of the facts? That's not true. You're cherry picking certain things he said. And on the Iraq war, the timeline is very clear. Well, hold on. He was on Howard Stern's radio show as a private citizen, And Stern asked him, so, hey, should we invade Iraq?

What do you think? And he said, well, I guess so Hillary Clinton proudly went down into the well of the United States Senate and cast her vote in favor of the Iraq war. And by the way, she's been a hawk for many years. The Wall Street Journal wrote about it just this week that she's always been an interventionist. So the Democrats may not like that. I know you're stuck with a lemon here with 53 days to go, and we're surging. And I'm sorry for that because she has never been somebody who recaptures the momentum.

we saw her fall apart in 2008. We saw Bernie Sanders win 22 states and millions of voters just a couple of months ago, Bill. We see Gary Johnson and, in fact, Jill Stein taking votes away from her. She's just been, she's floundering at 42, 44%.

The question is why, and the answer is very simple. A majority of Americans think that she doesn't tell the truth. She's not honest or trustworthy, and a majority don't quite like her. If she does win, she will make history, but not because of her gender-only. Okay, but you're not her... ever elected a president that a majority of Americans felt was dishonest and untrustworthy.

Okay, but you're her campaign, you're not her campaign manager. You're Donald Trump's campaign. I'm all for a female president, but not that one. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. But also, I mean, you know, in the past, you've worked for people like Newt Gingrich, Fred Thompson, Jack Kemp.

I don't agree with a lot of what they say, but they're all serious. Mike Pence? I was trying to keep that out of it. He's a great vice president. But, you know, these are all serious people. You don't see a difference between them and Donald Trump. I mean, you have many children. I mean, are you okay with what your children are going to be asking you about supporting a man,

enabling a man who did things like make fun of the handicapped? And said John McCain wasn't a war hero. John McCain has endorsed him, and he's endorsed him. What's that? They've endorsed it. John McCain and Donald Trump have endorsed each other in the race. They support each other in their races this year. So, but in it, but look, I have no problem saying to my children that I want the future to be better for them.

And I already know what Hillary Clinton's going to do. She says it, well, you have to look at a website to know it, for God's sake. She doesn't even talk about the issues. And that I don't like, I don't, I can't support somebody who lies for a living. I'm not going to be, I'm not allowed to be allowed. Yes, he does. You just said you can't support somebody who lies for a living. living when I read a list of provable lies.

Let's be honest. I'm sorry. Where's the Democratic Blue Wall? Where's the electoral map? Wait a second. She's the one who has 66% of Americans saying she's not honest and she's not trustworthy. She has earned that. But that's what people believe.

That's not what is an actual lie or not. They know she deleted the emails. They know she doesn't tell the truth about her health condition. They know that she doesn't tell the truth. Where are the 33,000 deleted emails? Where are the 17,000? All right. I'll let you go.

My last question, if Trump, if you guys win, look me in the eye through that camera and tell me you will not actually be more nervous than if Hillary won. I will not be more nervous if Hillary won. I think, no, I'm with tens of millions of people in this country bill who have joined the Trump movement and have said, you are our last hope

because she will tax and regulate. She called ISIS, our quote, determined enemies in her convention. speech are determined enemies like we're playing a soccer game against them. They're savage murderers who have killed 33,000 people, them and their predecessors, just in the last 13 years, 80% in the last three years. But I will tell you this. Your viewers probably don't know that you and I share a birthday January 20th. Enagoration Day. Come as my guest, Bill Maher. We'll see you there. Please keep me out of Guantanamo Bay. That's all I'm asking. Thank you, Kelly Ann Congley.

Thank you. I got to give it to you. You did it. All right. Let's meet our panel. Can't get her to it. It's like an raging bull. Can't get her down. He's a staff writer for the New Yorker magazine. Adam Gopnik is back with us. Hey, Adam.

She's president of the American Unity Fund and a CNN political contributor. Our friend Margaret Hoover back with us. Hey, Margaret. And he is the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition. My old job. Ralph Reed.

Thank you for being here, Ralph. We appreciate that. Don't forget to send us your question. for tonight's overtime, so we're going to answer them after the show on YouTube. Okay, so I think we have a fairly diverse panel. We have two Republicans, one who is a Trump person, one who is a Republican but will not go for Trump, right? Correct. Right, and two sane people.

No, I'm kidding. But, you know, I want to ask you first. Let me ask you, the people who are Republicans but won't vote for Trump, but won't vote for Hillary, right? Well, I haven't decided whether I'm not going to vote for Hillary or not. But I mean, there's only two people who could possibly win. Yeah, that's right. That's right. But by not voting for Trump, it is I recognize that Hillary would be president, and I can live with that.

I can live with that. Okay. Well, okay. But then what is the other choice? But you proudly carry a Republican name, Hoover. I do. I do. You are the grand-granddaughter, great-granddaughter.

Yeah. Republican president. Yeah. So if you find Donald Trump so odious, so dangerous, that you can't vote for him, it seems like you would have to vote for... Yeah, well, I live in New York. I might on principle vote for Gary Johnson. I might on for, you know, who...

But that's a vote for Trump. I know, there's this actually... Why is that a vote for Trump? In New York? Because, well, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think I feel pretty good about it. Objectively, it's a vote for Trump.

In other words, if you say either when you have a moment of absolute national emergency and you refuse to take the reason... reasonable side and you insist instead that your tribal loyalties is such that instead you're going to take you're not going to line up with the only reasonable alternative then that seems to be very i actually would would vote for hill like i would vote for hill all right okay let me ask another question because i see this kentucky governor matt bevin you know him ralph he seems like your type no he ran against Mitch mccannell to his right okay and i'm reading this quote from him because it's just blows my mind how divided this country is and how we just can't even see the same reality. This is governor, and he's a governor of Kentucky. That's a state. He said, somebody asked me

yesterday, do you think it's possible if Hillary Clinton were to win the election that we'll be able to survive, that we ever be able to recover as a nation? And it's so funny because I think that, but not quite about Hillary Clinton. This is exactly what I and millions of people are saying about Donald Trump. Could we ever survive it? So, and then he goes on to say, yes, we could survive Hillary Clinton. It would be

possible, but the price, blood will be shed. It may be those in this room. I have nine children. It breaks my heart to think it might be their blood needed to redeem and reclaim America. Walk me through how Hillary Clinton,

centrist Hillary Clinton, is this much of a threat and how people get their mind to this place. Bill, only in Hollywood is Hillary a centrist. Really? Yeah, really. Tell me why she's an existential threat. She's called for transitioning from Obamacare to single-payer.

She's called... No, no, no. No, no, wait a second. Wait a second. Not single-payer, public option. Okay, same difference. Not the same difference at all. Public option program is...

So epitomizes... She's also said that she will take Obama's amnesty, which was an executive unconstitutional amnesty, and double down on it. So she's not in the mainstream... So this would make America a place where we have to shed blood to rega? She's the first candidate of either political party since Roe v. Wade to call for repealing the Hyde Amendment,

which was a bipartisan compromise after Roe v. Wade to say, look, abortion, may be the law of the land, but taxpayers should not be required to subsidize it. Aside from... She's the first candidate of either party. Even her husband, even Barack Obama. Okay, okay, but it's not the question I'm... Out of the mainstream is different than we have to die.

Okay, that's not fair. Bill, that's not fair either. That's what he said. No, that's not fair either. Excuse me. He was contacted by a reporter after he made that comment. He was referring to military sacrifice and I am the son of... For fuck's sake. I just read it.

This is what he said. Read the article where he was called by a Louisville Courier Journal reporter, and he said I was referring to military sacrifice. Excuse me. This is what goes on all the time. Somebody says, and this is what Trump has inserted into the American body politic in an incredibly pathological way, somebody says something that is clearly violent,

and it's clearly a threat of violence. It's clearly directed that way. And then when it gets out there, then suddenly it's denied, and it's turned around. And we all know what the content is. We all know what the content is. That's not true at all. That is absolutely true, Ralph.

Let me finish my point here. In the speech, he quoted Jefferson who talked about the tree of liberty being watered with the brunc. The secessionist quoted Jefferson, Ralph, as you might mention. Was Jefferson also calling for violence? The secessionists quoted Jefferson in 1860. Was Jefferson calling for violence?

Was he as bad as Trump? Was he as bad as better? If you can compare Thomas Jefferson and Donald Trump, then you have something fundamentally wrong in your understanding of American history. comparing them at all. You just did. You just did.

I'm saying he cited Jefferson in the remarks and that was the context. Margaret Hoover. We're arguing about a guy who Mitch McConnell calls a pathological liar. Okay? So this is just to like set where we're going. Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader calls Matt Bevan, the Kentucky, from his home stay, a pathological liar. So we're arguing about somebody who already is on the fringes.

But so here's the thing. The argument that Republicans have or Democrats have that, that, that, that, that And I just talked to actually a family member, family's all voting for Trump. I'm from flyover country. They literally family just said to me the same thing. The country is going to be unrecognizable. We won't be able to get it back if Donald Trump wins. And that's how really Republicans believe, and I know you.

You said it if Hillary Clinton wins. Both sides think if my family happens to think it if Hillary Clinton wins. But let's be honest. I mean, the same people, at least on the right who say this, are people who believe in constitutional conservatism. They believe in checks and balances. They believe in the wisdom of the founders. and they believe that the government was set up in order to prevent anybody who has two radical impulses

to be able to take over. And I believe in our country, and I believe in our founders, and I do not believe that our country won't be able to sustain any individual who is in the executive branch for four years. And that goes against Donald Trump as well. I think we can say, do it. Does it mean that either of them won't have awful policies? No.

But we can sustain it as a country. He did say he would start a war if Iran gave us the finger. Right. So I do think it is a little different. I'm more concerned about it. It's a little different than the public option, which is not the same thing as single-payer, Ralph. I agree. By the way, not a long... It ultimately becomes the same thing.

I agree with Margaret 100% that the system that our framers put together was resilient enough to endure two world wars, in Great Depression, the Civil War, slavery, and I believe... Let me just finish, Adam. I believe that that system of checks and nations, balances and of separation of powers, of Congress checking the power of presidency, of a free press, of an enlightened and engaged citizenry can overcome any single individual. And I mean it about Hillary. We have never before Ralph had a candidate of a major political party who is an avowed enemy

of all those things. Who's on the record as opposing all of the things he just. So your son, American democracy won't survive if Donald Trump is elected? Is that what you're saying? My knowledge of history tells me, Ralph, that when a radical authoritarian takes power in a country, The result is never... So your answer is, yes, America won't survive. I think that American democracy will be in greater danger than it's been since 1860 if Donald Trump were elected president.

I think that... You didn't answer my question. I think that America... I am answering a question around. Give me a chance. I think that American democracy, all of us who believe in American democracy and in constitutional conservatism, will struggle to save America from Donald Trump. But I believe that no one can deny that Donald Trump is a classic example of someone who,

has contempt for all of the tripod that keeps our Constitution and our country together. He has contempt for the truth. He has contempt for the legitimacy of the elected government. And he has contempt for anyone who he regards as an outsider. Those are all things that are essential. He has contempt for anyone who doesn't kiss his ass. Yes. Which is why he loves Putin.

Yes. That's why he loves Valor of Putin, because Putin said he liked Donald Trump. So anybody who likes Donald Trump is a great guy. Well, I mean, I would just say that for somebody who lived through Watergate and saw an abuse of power and destruction of evidence and suborning of perjury and a true constitutional crisis, we survive that. And if we survive that, we can survive Hillary Clinton. But you know, Ralph, that's a good point, Ralph. But that was because Richard Nixon, with all of his terrible flaws. I just don't think you have enough faith in our constitutional democracy.

Richard Nixon, with all of his laws, was surrounded by people who were deeply committed to the American system of constitutional government and Donald Trump. is not. No, what Nixon did was he fired everybody in the Justice Department who wouldn't fire a special prosecutor. All right. He didn't show any respect for the Constitution or the rule of law. So moving on, Trump's driven out. Almost as bad as the worst president in American history. I don't find that a consoling thought. Nixon wasn't the worst. Andrew Johnson was the worst. Okay. Let's save that for overtime. Ever since, yeah, we can. Ever since Hillary's collapse, health has been on the forefront of the voters' minds, of the campaign.

and I saw Dr. Oz had Trump on. I think that was the wrong Oz, because Trump doesn't need a doctor, it needs a brain. But, okay. But anyway, Trump, as I mentioned in the model, gave him a one-pager. McCain released 1,200, 1,200 pages.

So there is way, way more in Donald Trump's medical history. Luckily, Russia is not the only place that has not the only place that has hackers. We have them right here at real time. We got a hold of the medical history of Donald Trump. Would you like to hear some of the, these are just some of the highlights. But for example, as a newborn, Donald Trump battled metal poisoning from a silver spoon left in his mouth. Isn't that interesting? In 2000, he injured his back lifting Melania's shipping crate. As a patient, he reports hearing things and then repeating them as fact. Oh, in 1998, doctors surgically removed a baby bird from his hair. Trump's medical records we have. It says patient lists his blood pressure as best ever over unbelievable. He suffers from a real.

rare condition hemorrhoids of the face. Oh, interesting. He's never experienced a seizure unless you count the ones ordered by bankruptcy court. That's the... That's good. That's good. It says patient is overweight but not obese and possesses the only known

case of hate handles. Oh, stool sample. presents as unremarkable. Although you can't believe the shit that comes out of his mouth. All right. Let's bring on Carrie. She's an activist, a great actress, the star of ABC Scandal.

Emmy nominated as both actress and producer of the HBO movie Confirmation. Carrie Washington is here. Now, you are with child. I am. Knocked up again. Yeah, knocked up again. How far along is that? Because I noticed that bump.

I don't know if you think you're high. nothing. We've got another thing coming. No, we try to hide it on the show, but in real life, there's no hope for that. Right. So that's exciting. Yeah, it is. Very exciting. So does it focus the mind, you think, on what's going on with the nation when you know that a little child of yours will be dealing with the repercussions of whoever becomes president? Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I've always been a fairly political person and mostly, not because I'm in the public eye, but because I'm an American, and I think we have a right

and a responsibility to participate in our democracy. So having a child might open up my mind to the issues, like this ridiculous maternity leave that Trump talked about just recently. Oh, yes. Now, if you didn't catch this this week, probably because of Kellyanne. I mean, she's good. Or his daughter, who's also great. And I think it's important that we not be distracted by these very smart, very articulate, beautiful women who work on the Trump campaign,

who are a lot smarter than the candidate, I think. Right. And we need to be not swayed by them because they will not have. because they will not have their finger on the button, he will. But you're right. Kelly Ann and his daughter got him this week to reach out to women with a maternity and child care plan, which I guess will be necessary.

He's going to deport all the nannies. But why do you say it's ridiculous? Well, I mean, I think there's been a lot of talk about it being insulting to women, but I think it's actually insulting to families and to workers because there's no paternity leave, there's no family leave. Like for Hillary Clinton, these issues,

these policies are not about women's policy. This is about economic policy because we understand in this country that if families are able to take care of each other, we do better as a nation. I choose that candidate over the guy who brags about having never changed a diaper. I mean, he's literally bragged

about having never changed a diaper. Right. That's crazy. But also, there's no way to pay for it in his plan. No, it's logistically en-acted. It's about fraud, which they all say when they don't want to pay for something. Well, you know, a year ago, he talked about these child care plans that his company had, trumpeteers and Trump kids.

There were supposed to be these great plans for people who worked for him. They did a little digging because he talked about the cocktails, the kitty cocktails and coloring books and the slides. They did research. That wasn't for his workers. That was for people who were guests at his fancy hotels. Right. And he didn't apparently understand the distinction. Right. Well, he doesn't give money.

His workers were like, if we have child care, we don't know about it. He doesn't give money to his own charity. It's the Trump Foundation. He hasn't put a dime in since 2008, and then he gives money to other charities from his charity. And asks people to give him money to give to charities. Right. They think it's from him, and it's not. Okay. Enough. I certainly don't want to be shitting on Donald Trump all night. Why not?

Just kidding. Why not? Believe me, there's plenty more shitting to come. But let's talk about our girl, because there is a real enthusiasm gap. I read it today. It was very scary numbers. I don't know where I have them, but something like millennials. Are you still a millennial? You're on the edge of the millennial, aren't you?

Sure. My agent wants me to say yes. I think you are. I think you are. Yeah, you are. Okay. I am. It is.

You are. And she dipped something like... Teen pregnancy on the rise. No, go ahead. But she's way down with the millennials. They have fallen off the wagon. There's a big enthusiasm gap, they say, with black and Hispanics. What, I don't count?

I'm black. I'm enthusiastic. I think you can. I understand what you're saying. I think there's a bigger problem, which is that right now we are in a political climate where we are being led by the media, no offense, to vote for the loudest candidate and the meanest, the bulliest candidate in the playground, and that we are voting based on a cult of personality or a cult of celebrity rather than voting in our best interest. I think if we

really look at policy, voting for Trump is voting against our best interest as Americans, as workers, as people of color, as women. Voting, not voting, is voting against ourselves. So voting for Trump is voting against ourselves, not voting is voting against ourselves. And I think in this election, voting for a third party candidate is voting against ourselves. Absolutely. No, I agree with you. I... And a lot of people say, like, well, she doesn't have policy.

She doesn't address the issues that are important to us. But I think that's because the noise, again, is coming from the bully in the playground. If you do the research, the policy is there. What Kellyan, again, Kellyan's really good at what she does. Really? Playing Olivia Pope, I know spin when I see it. She's great at what she's doing. But...

That's right. But really? Right. I mean, the very first speech she gave after announcing her candidacy was about criminal justice reform. So when people of color, when young people are out there saying she's not doing enough for us, like, we have to do the work to dig because the media is not spoon-feeding us the information we need to vote in our best interest. That's right. I mean, here's why I have no faith in the outcome.

I saw Trump was in Flint, Michigan this week. Okay? And I saw this woman that they interviewed and, you know, the reporter said, Donald Trump came here. Do you think he means it? He's going to help. I don't know. They said, well, but Hillary came here months ago. And the woman said, yeah, but that's when all the media was here. Maybe she was just trying to glom on to that. So, you know, I feel bad for these people in Flint, but on the other hand, if you don't want your kids poisoned, maybe do a little research. Because on one hand, you have a guy who's never been to Flint,

never showed the least bit of concern, care, empathy for anything about poor people, their communities, only cares about the rich and the yachts. And his own self-interest. and his own self-interest, and then this other person who has devoted her life, her career. ...just like this versus the guy from the party who did the problem to begin with, who wants to eliminate the EPA, who wants to gut regulations and cut taxes on the rich. And you can't figure out who to vote for. And now let me say, there may be... So I feel bad for you, but not 100%.

And when people talk about her long history, there may be things that you don't particularly agree with at some point. Like I know a lot of people of color and millennials talk about her position on criminal justice reform and the super predator stuff. And I hear that and I understand it. I would rather vote for the candidate who is willing to address mistakes, address issues, take responsibility, be accountable, be a part of a change solution, rather than the candidate who chooses to continue to perpetuate fear and hate in the present moment. And this is the, yeah.

This is a big problem I have with Lillard. liberals cleaning up a little spot over here when there's a giant pile of shit on the other side of the room. But let me ask you about this, because we got onto this subject a little bit. Colin Kaepernick, you're married to an ex-NFL player. I am. Responsible for this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this has been a big controversy in America. He is the backup quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. He will not stand for the national anthem as a protest against police brutality. Now it is spreading. you see there somebody else is doing it.

I think about a dozen guys in the... A lot of guys are doing it now. An NFL doing it. And even in other sports, in soccer, and other sports people are doing it. Trump people think this is horrible because he is somehow offending America and people have died.

Well, actually, what people died and fought for was for his right to do that. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. I, you know, obviously, as a Hillary supporter, I obviously don't agree completely 100% with everything the Kaepernick is saying. But I think it's really important that because,

I'll speak in first person, that because I'm in the public eye, I do not give up my rights as an American. I am an American citizen, and just because I may work for the studio system or work for a sports league doesn't mean I'm a slave on a plantation. I still get to have my right to express my...

Yes, exactly. And then I put that away. So I get to express my rights, and I get to speak my mind. I also think it's really important that we remember that a lot of these athletes are people, like civil rights activists that we now canonize and call heroes, MLK, Muhammad Ali,

who supposedly transcended race. These are people that at the time, at the time, there was very different language being used to describe their beliefs and their actions. Colin Kaepernick may be one of those future heroes. And if we don't give him the room to talk about these issues that need to be addressed, we are not fulfilling our obligations

as the democracy that is we the people. Let's ask our Republican friends what they think of not standing for the national anthem. Well, I stand for the national anthem, and I put my hand over my heart because I think... But you were never the victim of police brutality. No, I was not. But I believe that this is... I think this is the greatest nation on earth. And I think that while this has been an imperfect nation that has committed grievous national sins...

But if it's imperfect... Including slavery and racism, by the way. I still think that people from all over the world throughout history and now come here to be free and to make these kinds of expressions. But that's not really addressing the question. No, it does address the question. It says what I would do. Okay. Obviously if I...

But do you support his right to do it? Well, he has the right under the First Amendment. I don't agree with him, but obviously he has the right to make expressions. Good for you. Good for you. I don't know if all your friends are to be happy with you after that. But I think that's great. Okay.

Because we have a right to disagree here at that table because we live in this great nation. Sure. That's what makes America great. And it doesn't need to be great again. It's already great. Yeah. Bill. Yeah.

I don't agree with virtually anything you say. Bill, I don't agree with virtually anything you say, but I defend your right to have a show. And right. Amen. Amen, brother. But it also bothers me. that, you know, it seems like the right wing defines what patriotism is, and then if you do something different, you're not patriotic.

You know what I don't like about sport events? I don't like the big celebration of militarism, the flyovers of the jets and all that bullshit. I'm trying to just watch a game. I don't want to be reminded of all that. And by the way, those jets, most of them are not needed. That's not about defense. That's about defense contractors.

It actually makes us weaker, not stronger. So why don't we leave it out of school? all together. I think you need to lighten up. Honestly, I've been to those events, and I'll never forget being at the 2001 World Series, Game 7 between the Arizona Diamondbacks and the New York Yankees. This was not long after September 11th. Right.

And the B-1 bomber flew right over the stadium. We were celebrating America. We were honoring Bill the military men and women. military men and women who defend us and put their lives on the line every single day so that we can be free. I will always cherish the moment when Ralph Reed told me to lighten up. But here's another thing. The police union in Santa Clara, which is where the 49ers practice, threatened to walk off the job. They said what he did was creating a hostile work environment.

Now, they did show up for work. the only people who didn't were the Rams. But is that really where we are in America? Would the police are threatening to not show up? They do realize they work for us, don't they? Do we have to all agree that all of them do their jobs perfectly before they show up? What a bunch of oversensitive babies.

I don't think it characterizes most of the police, I just know it's the Wall Street, or the New York Times had an editorial today by Bill Bratton, He was a very well-known and very well-respected leader in community policing and police reforms across the country. He was here in Los Angeles. He was in New York twice. He's retiring today after a very long time starting in Boston. I mean, these are horrible exceptions, I think, to, for the most part, which is... Well, this is the police union. And by the way, the national...

We're doing... Like, we get better and better every generation, right? And, like, let's not forget that, right? You know, better at what? Better at closer to fulfilling the ideal of the declaration. Mostly, yeah. We do. And that's what's so extraordinary about the country. The police union, by the way, the national one, endorsed Trump today. So if you want to really mend fences with the minority community...

But you remember one of the most moving things we've seen all year were the pictures of the Dallas police with the Black Lives Matters protesters before those horrible killings. Right. They were lined up with them, supporting their right, protecting them. Knowing that we have a right to protest. supporting their right to protest. And that the healing is in truth-telling and coming together, not in shutting it down and saying, I won't protect one.

And the most salient point is as offended as they were, they showed up, and they did their job. I, for one, will say there are hundreds of thousands of men and women who make up the thin blue line that separate us from those who would kill or otherwise rob and kill it to our families. We all agree. And when lots of other people... are not doing their jobs, they get up every day

and they put their lives on the line. Last word, dear Ralph, I have to now go to New Rule, everybody. Or else will be like, thank you. OK, New Rule, now that Wells Fargo has been caught secretly creating fake accounts to defraud customers out of millions, they may want to make their logo look less like a couple of bandits skipping town with everybody's money. New Rule, now that we know that the protesters are dancing with the stars who attack

Brian Lockettie did it because he embarrassed Americans. They have to tell me why they ran right by Rick Perry. Rick Perry once had the same job as George W. Bush and stood out as the dumb one. He once let a stadium rally to pray for rain. Ryan Lockettie might be an idiot, but at least he can swim. Rick Perry puts a speedo on over his head. New Rule, you have to have to

admit that Florida's Ed and Fran Gargulia who have been married for 52 years and coordinating their outfits every day are just adorable. The only thing that doesn't match is that Ed carries a wallet and Fran carries a purse, where she keeps Ed's balls. New Rule, anyone's sending around that viral water birth video and going on about how beautiful it is. also has to watch the video take in the next morning when the pool guy arrives.

New Rule, someone must tell Donald Trump he met with the wrong Oz. Oh, I already did this joke. Oh, no, I didn't, I know, go back, sorry. He doesn't need a doctor, he needs a brain. Oh, yeah, we did that. You did that, Joe. Yeah, fuck that.

It's good, though. Next joke. Sorry, we're a little rusty. New Rule, whoever cropped this photo deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor. Because my eyes have seen a lot of things. But if this is Donald Trump lovingly cupping Bill Clinton scrotum, while Bill pats him on the back, the libertarians are right.

We need a third party. And finally, new rule, both candidates must sign a pledge that whoever loses the election in November, whether it's Hillary or whether it's Orange Hitler, and play it fair and balanced. The loser has to converse. Congratulate the winner and concede graciously. Why?

Because civility is nearly dead in this country, and we need to return to some basic level of bipartisan decency and respect for our opponents. Otherwise, we're going to wind up being governed by those good-for-nothing assholes on the other side. You see, because I just... Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. As long as one person we're there with it.

All right. Now, you may not think that something is silly. as congratulating your opponent, should rise to the level of a campaign issue. But if you want to know why our country is so tense and our government doesn't work, it's because society functions on some basic rules of conduct, and they're all going away. It's why filibustering has become not a rare principled protest, but the everyday automatic cock-blocking that defines government now.

Ted Cruz filibustered Obamacare for nearly a day by reading green eggs, and ham, a book about how you might like something if you give it a chance. It's why Republicans who claim to worship the Constitution can now just ignore their duty in filling a Supreme Court vacancy. And speaking of the Supreme Court, which used to stay supremely out of partisan bickering, it's why Ruth Bader Ginsburg, yes, even sweet, scholarly, grandmotherly, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, talk trash. about Trump this year like she was in a rap battle. Oh, that man can bring out the worst in anyone.

But I have to tell you, Donald Trump didn't create this swamp. He just rose from it. He and Hillary, he and Hillary are the first two candidates in memory not to call and congratulate each other after they won their respective races. Forever, that is what people did, even Al Gore called George W. Bush after he lost. And he didn't even lose. In the Senate, members used to refer to each other as my friend from the other side of the aisle.

They didn't mean it literally, of course. No one actually thinks of Ted Cruz as a friend. But you say it anyway. It's like in a marriage, occasionally to keep things functional. You have to tell little little. lies like, you're more handsome bald, or I'm dying to hear about your day, or I love it that you only blow me on my birthday, it makes it special. But in politics, we've forgotten how to do that. Lie, not blow each other. We still not do that. Did it break down when we decided it was okay

to say that the president was a Kenyan spy baby? It didn't help. Neither did when someone shouted out and you lie at the state of the union. And it's only gotten worse. A Republican senator this year called Obama a drug dealer. The governor of Maine left a voice message for one of his political opponents, calling him a socialist cocksucker. Even within the party, they do it. Alan Grayson lost a Democratic primary in Florida last month,

refused to endorse the guy who beat him, and then called him a Republican. Now, come on. Call a guy a traitor or a cock-sock or a cop-sock. I keep saying that this election is a referendum on decency. It's a chance to reject the gutter and punish people who want to live there. But right now, we are rewarding them. The guy who said, you lie? The next day, donations poured into his coffers.

Because now in America, when you act like an asshole, you're a hero. This is what Parliament looks like on a bad day in the Ukraine. And here's the Turkish Parliament. And the one in South Korea. And the one in Nepal. Yeah, we laugh at it, but that is where we're headed. Because the real infectious disease that's threatening our election isn't pneumonia. It's a total lack of class.

This is supposed to be a democracy. not a bum fight. Let's leave the eye gouging to the pageant moms and the hair pulling to the Italians. Just a little decency for old time's sake so the neighbors don't think we're trash. Because we haven't built that wall yet, and the Mexicans can hear everything.

All right, thank you. That's our show. I'll be at the Mirage. Back in Vegas, September 30th, and October 1st, at Foxwoods, in Connecticut, October 22nd, and Madison Square Garden, November 1st. I want to thank Adam Gopnik, Margaret Hoover, Ralph Reed, Kerry Washington, and Kelly Ann Conway.

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