Real Time with Bill Maher - Episode #408 (Originally aired 10/28/16)

Episode Date: October 29, 2016

Episode #408 (Originally aired 10/28/16) - Bill’s guests are Van Jones, Chelsea Handler, Kristen Soltis Anderson, Michael Moore and Rick Lazio. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maher. Good afternoon. At the show, time will be I have Bob. Please, thank you. Oh, my gosh.

What a welcome. Thank you. I know it's a... I love you too. Thank you. Ah, M. I know you have Halloween fever. Who doesn't it?

It's Halloween weekend. We love it out here in Los Angeles. Halloween when people get to cake on makeup and pretend there's some and they're not. or as Trump calls it campaigning. I got a great costume this year. I'm going to terrify Republicans.

I'm going as a science book. But I think it is rather appropriate that this election is so close to Halloween because what happens in every scary movie? You think you killed the monster. You killed him ten times. And then a tiny orange hand comes out of the grave.

Oh, yeah. Believe me. For Hillary, today was Nightmare on Email Street. Did you see what happened today? Okay, the FBI, if you didn't do this, was all over the news today. Giant Story, the FBI found some more Hillary emails. So they're reopening the investigation.

Great, huh? Hillary's emails are like unreleased Tupac songs. Just when you think they have them all, they found it? few more. And you'll never believe where they found these new ones. On Anthony Weiner's computer.

I'm not making that up. On Anthony Weiner's computer. No one thought to look among the dick picks. That's where the emails are. Now, for those of you who are not political junkies, you might be asking, why? Why on Anthony Weiner's

computer? Because Anthony Wiener is under investigation. That's right. Yeah, man, I don't bullshit here, okay? No, high school dance. Yeah, Anthony Wiener is under investigation for sexting with a underage girl across straight state lines. So the FBI seized all his computers.

He is married or was married to Uma Amadine, Huma Amadine, who is Hillary Clinton's aide. And they were using the same computer, which begs my first question, why was Huma using Anthony's computer? One thing she didn't want to go near, it would be his computer. So Hillary's emails are intermingled with Anthony Wiener's sexting? No wonder why she had her server wiped. I'd have it boiled. But, you know, this is the world we live in now.

Hillary Clinton's AIDS estranged husband is a freak so we get to read Hillary Clinton's emails I wish Hillary would send a text to Donald Trump

maybe then we would see his taxes and you know we don't know what is in these emails may be nothing James Comey the director of the FBI

he's the one who made this announcement today he said they appear pertinent but quote I can't say that they're significant Well, take your time, man. There's nothing riding on it. I mean, it's so ironic. Wiener's one excuse when he was just texting

was he never actually fucked anyone. Well, now he has. Planet Earth. You know, I don't know if Wiener's dick is big, but it certainly casts a long shadow. I'll say that. Wait a second, I do know his dick is big.

We've all seen it a hundred times. But of course, you know, Trump, and Cruz, and the whole gang on the right are all making hay out of this about its corruption and criminal conduct. Only Republicans could look at an investigation into sexually propositioning a minor and say, yeah, did you find anything really disgusting? Like mishandled email, something that would really revolt people. So once again, Hillary's political fortunes are driven by out-of-control Cox.

Right? What, this poor woman. I mean, first it was her husband, then it was Donald Trump's, and now it's Anthony Wieners. Or what she calls them, my basket of deplorable horn dogs. So you know what? I don't know what they're going to find, and I don't care. She's got a server in her basement.

I don't care if she's got John Bonae Ramsey in her basement. I'm still not voting for Donald Trump. Chorus here, Kristen Solis Anderson and Rick Lazio, and a little I'd be speaking with, I'm so glad she's here, a good friend of mine. Chelsea Handler is back stage. But first up, he is the founder of the Dream Corps and a CNN contributor.

You all know, Van Jones. Come on you, pal. Great to see you. All right. All right. So, first of all, what is your reaction to today's news? Well, she's got four men in her life. Trump, who's a pervert. Clinton, who's got a race he pass.

You've got Wiener, whose name speaks for itself. And Barack Obama. And for once, the black guy is the one guy not in trouble. You don't have to be that black guy. You've made your point. But, I mean, honestly, I mean, so even before this,

the Republicans were saying that they're going to obstruct her. Yep. Investigate her. I mean, I picture them doing it right away. Like, like inauguration day. Like, she'll be testifying

in a ball gown. That's their wish. Listen, they have forgotten the difference between being a party of opposition and a party of obstruction. There's great honor in being a party of opposition, you know, saying, listen, we think your ideas are wrong, we can make

them better. But when you just stop the entire government from functioning, there's a word for that. Treason. That's the word. It's treason. You have to do your job. You have to do your job. You take an oath, period. Well, I mean, and that gets us to the Supreme Court.

I mean, they took an oath to at least give a hearing on a Supreme Court justice. And now I heard John McCain. John McCain, who's supposed to be one of the reasonable ones this week, say, whoever Hillary puts up, they're going to block it. And I guess they're okay with, I mean, the Supreme Court is supposed to be nine. Now it's eight. We could get down to when they start dying. It could be four.

It looks like they're never going to even allow a hearing on anybody. This is insane. I think they've... Listen, honestly, at a certain point, the Democrats just have to say, listen, guess what? Especially if we get the Senate, guess what? If you guys don't want to show up and do your jobs, we'll do it for you. We're going to suspend all those rules.

We are going to let the Supreme Court function, period. You can't have one branch of government. Stop two. That's called a tyranny of a branch. the reality is the President of the United States is supposed to appoint, those justices are supposed to serve, and if you're giving advice and consent, listen, you can waive that if you want you,

but we're going to go forward. I mean, it is pretty amazing when you think about it, how they can really take anybody. Now, I don't know what's in these emails. In the past emails, I'm always trying to find something that in one sentence I could say, well, she did that.

You know, she's not completely clean, but you are someone who is some familiarity with this. I mean, you were in the... we forget that we know you because you were in the Obama administration, and you were sort of the first Gary Black man that they went after. I mean, you were ahead of the green

jobs. I mean, you were, they said you were a czar. Glenn Beck did like 14 shows on you. Fourteen hundred. Fox News. So you know what it's like. Well, first of all, let me say two things. First of all, at that time, Glenn Beck was on TV every night and I wasn't, and now... That is what the posing.

And... Yeah. But second of all, the whole idea of me being a green job czar, part of it is that they did not want to have the conversation about climate. They did not want to have the conversation about... Well, I do. Well, you do.

And by the way, you're the only person who has consistently been a climate champion... I think... I think we agree. That's the most important issue. It is the most important issue. And there was not one question about it in any of the... Which I, listen, I think that's going to be going to go down in history as a huge mistake, and my network was a part of it. But I will say this.

Part of it is people just don't understand how sexy the climate solutions are. Listen, this is not boring stuff. Here in California, nobody knows this. In California, we did three sexy things on climate. We have a cabin trade program here where we took money from the polluters and said, give it to us. That's sexy. You just, nigh. Two.

Two. We said we're going to use the money. You grabbed without asking. See? See? Apparently that's all... You don't even ask. Apparently that's all the raise. You just put a check attack in your mouth.

Exactly. Grab that money. See? Apparently? Apparently? Okay. Number two, we took the money and we invested it and we've now got a billion dollars from polluters in California. Put it in poor communities.

Cheap and low-cost solar panels in the hood. Farm workers getting car pools. We've got bus passes for low-income people. So you can save the people and save the planet at the same time if you do the right thing with climate policy.

The danger that you have is that now you've got places like Washington State, they want to take the money from polluters, give it to corporations. That's wrong. Take the money from polluters, give it to the people, build a big movement, and stop climate change.

That's the way for it. That's the way for it. Okay. So another thing we think alike about, I think, is, you know, comparison shopping with the candidates. I had Ann Coulter, in your chair here about two weeks ago. And it was pretty soon after a pussy gate had broken in the news.

And I said to her, look me in the eye in and tell me that if there was a tape, they found, a Barack Obama saying, hey, give me a tick-tack. Because, you know what, when you're a community organizer, you don't even have to ask. They just let you do whatever you want, grab their pussies. And you put out a rent about if Trump was black. same idea. And I think it's something people need to hear.

But listen, first of all, I was just mad, and I just blip the thing on, and I talked for 13 minutes. That thing got 11, 12 million views. But the reason is very simple. If Trump were black, you would call him a thug.

That's what you would call him. Any African-American going around bragging about sexual assault, every African-American would have to come on the air and apologize for the failure of black men and the violence of black. This is... So what you have here is a classic case.

He came on the scene to get famous. He said these African-American boys in Central Park were what? Sexual Assaulters. Then he said that the Mexicans coming into the country were rapists and sexual assaulters. It turns out it was a white dude who was a sexual assaultor the whole time. It was projection. Projection, yeah. And part of, I think, the reason people get so upset is a double standard.

For instance, you've got these Native Americans who are out there. fighting to stop that horrific pipeline. They're getting beat up, they're getting arrested. They are national heroes. At the same time, you've got 11 white dudes to go and get guns and take over a whole part of the federal government. The Oregon thing. Yes, in Oregon.

And guess what? Beginning of the year, these guys, these militia types, Amen Bundy. Yes. Clyburn Bundy was his father. They had a protest earlier. Yeah, they took over a wildlife refuge. With guns.

With guns. Federal property. Acquitted today. They walk. They walk. They walk. Right. Pookie.

Pookie. Snoopy. Snoopy. Shannay, N. Run. I mean, if those have been, if they had been named that and not Bundy, they would be in prison for the rest of their lives. That's all I'm saying.

Pookie, thank you for being here. You're a great best, and I love to watch you on CNN. All right, Ben Jones, everybody. He is the next congressman. One of our favorites, actually, from New York. Rick Lazio, we joined us. Hey, Rick, how you doing? She is a Republican pollster and columns for the Washington Examiner.

Also one of our favorite guests, Kristen Soldis Anderson is back with us. And you know this man, he won an Oscar, and his new film is Michael Moore in Trump Land. I highly recommend it. It's awesome. Michael Moore is right over here. Don't forget to send us your questions for tonight's overtime. So we're going to answer them after the show on YouTube. Before I get to you guys, a couple of quick program notes. I have been calling Donald Trump a whiny little bitch.

I have a well-trained audience for about a year. Well, now it's a comedy special. You know, I'm going to do it on Facebook live on November 2nd. I hope you're Facebook fans. You know, I go around the country all the time doing my stand-up back.

I was like, I have an hour of awesome fucking Trump jokes, and it's just going to go to waste after the election. So I'm giving it to my Facebook fans. Also, next week, we have a special guest on our show. We've been trying to get him for quite a while, like eight years. We sent out a petition.

You can't guess? That's right. Yes, we finally landed that big show. President Obama, there was just a standing ovation for getting you on the show. I haven't said anything yet, so, okay. Now, about the week's, the day's news, this, you know, Friday, big, always a big day around here Friday, because we do our show, it seems the news breaks.

The FBI director said this email, the emails that he's looking through are pertinent, but he doesn't know if they're significant. I guess Putin hasn't read them yet. What do you make of this panel? There's been so many Clinton scandals, which I have to, in my own head, go. Is this something or is this nothing?

This is just another one of these things. She has been attacked and abused for 30, years. I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear this 11 days before the election. And it's just, I'll tell you what? Let me take that back. Let me take that back. If these, well, I'm going to take a little bit, if these emails, these new emails, can prove that she started a war because a dictator threatened to kill her daddy, or she war profiteered on behalf of Halliburton, or maybe she yelled at an aide to get her more tick-tacks. Maybe then I'd want to

read the emails. But other than that, Bill, this is just such bullshit. I doubt that there is anything that you just described in those emails, but I'm trying to imagine if two weeks from now the FBI had come out and said, by the way, two weeks ago, we found some stuff on Anthony Wiener's computer.

Sorry, we didn't tell you at the time. We didn't want to mess with this election. But now we're going to tell you, people would be outraged on the right, and I think justifiably so. I think there was really no good way to go about this, Except as soon as you know, the FBI says we found out yesterday that there was a potential of something going on. If they didn't say something and it got to after election day, that's only going to fuel the fire more and more for Trump to come out and say, look, this whole thing was waiting.

What does Anthony Weiner have to do with Hillary Clinton? That's what I don't get. It's so hard to imagine Anthony Weiner ceasing Hillary on a dick pick he's sending to a team. Right. But it's not. But it's not. I'm going to do you like your homeowner. But it's not, it's likely not Weiner. What do you mean? It's because it's, the point is that his then wife had access to the same computer. They seized them because she was the top personal aid to Hillary Quinn. We've already read so many of her emails.

And what they show is her aides email each other back and forth. This is from WikiLeaks, a lot about appearances and ethics, which is, I guess, what AIDS should do. Are they careful? Yes, they're careful. certainly can't blame them for being careful. Listen, but if there's nothing, they won't be any charges. The fact that

Comey, he went through contortions to explain why he was not... So it's wrong for the Republicans, as they're already out there today, saying that it's criminal? We have no idea what's in these years. So that's wrong. I would agree. I would only say that she, Hillary Clinton, is

a scandal factory. And you just look through her life. That may not be her fault. Well, the cattle futures... The cattle... All the way back. I can't go back there, right? I can't, I can't go back there. I forgot about the cattle futures.

Let me ask a bigger picture question. I withdraw my support of Hillary Clinton, which is... I forgot about the cattle futures. All the way, all the way to the current. Right. You're right. Let's elect the pussy grabber. Okay. By the way, who...

There's videotape of him as he's passing a 10-year-old going down the escalator. Oh, I know. Right? Saying, I'm going to date her in 10 years. Yeah. If that was a teacher, if you were teaching at a school and a teacher said to you about a 10-year-old, you know, in 10 years I'm going to date her,

you'd go right down to the principal and turn him in, wouldn't you? But, Michael, let me say, can I say something? I mean, seriously, he's running for president. Weiner is running away. But he's not a, you're not a Trump supporter. No, I'm not a Trump supporter, and I call him out, and I'm looking for Democrats that will call out Hillary Clinton.

So, because the standards ought to be... What is she done? What is Hillary done? She only... But is it the same? Is it the same as a guy who you really... can't trust with the nuclear codes. I mean, Marco Rubio said, I can't trust

him with the nuclear codes. I wouldn't trust him with the zip codes. But then I'm voting for him. This guy, Jason Chivetz from Utah, he said after PussyGate, he said, I can't look my daughters in the eye and endorse this man. And yesterday,

he said, I'm voting for him. This is what I don't get. You have to pick. There's only two choices. This is why 60% of the people, don't trust Hillary Clinton. And just because you don't defend Donald Trump doesn't mean you take a pass on what Hillary Clinton has done. That's a good question.

For liberals, especially. Yeah, exactly. But when you do... When she says, Bill, by the way, when she says, there were no classified emails, that was a lie. Okay, but when you don't take the pass and you do examine both of them, doesn't it still leave you in the place

of you can't allow someone that unstable and vindictive to be president? And if that's the conclusion you reach, don't you have to, as many Republicans, Colin Powell this week said it, I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. Some people are going to vote for the libertarian candidate. Some people are going to write somebody in.

That's a vote. Thank you. No, no. People are going to vote. No, no, I'm going to, they're going to vote their conscience. They're going to vote for somebody that they believe in, that isn't disqualified in their mind because of their character and how they conduct themselves.

A lot of people are voting for someone they don't believe in, though. I mean, so you brought up the Donald Trump saying something gross about a 10-year-old girl. The fact of the matter is that most people voting for Donald Trump don't care. And no matter what was in these emails today, most people voting for Hillary Clinton, they don't care. So we can have all of the October, you know, we talk about October surprises, these crazy things that come out in October, access Hollywood tapes. Hillary Clinton's got email on Anthony Wiener's computer or whatever. People are in their camps. The slice of people who are undecided at this point is so small.

The only thing that can matter is if this changes turnout. If someone decides, I'm just staying. Right. It could. Well, it also could make Trump voters come out. I mean, Anthony Weiner could be the cock that ended the world. And that I did not predict in the October surprise pool. Well, and what's crazy is that you know Donald Trump is going to say he did predict it.

He tweeted like two months ago that Anthony Weiner, he's a pervert, and he's a threat to national security. And we laughed at it. And yet... You're right. And so there was a pervert tweeting... He's obsessed with Twitter, doing his perversion on Twitter, and that's who's going to be the next president of the United States. We don't have to worry about Weiner being president,

but a man who does and behaves in similar manners with Twitter, why are we even discussing this? I can't tell you about the real... It's the same. So let's not. Let me ask another question. Because I'm at the point where I don't ever want to send another email, which is really weird,

because email made all of our lives so much easier 15, 20 years ago, whatever it was. And now I feel like we're all going to be like spies in a movie where they have to talk on the park bench. You know, the Washington Monuments always in the background, you know, and that's the only place they can meet and talk. And also, I think it's so interesting now that the Wright likes WikiLeaks. Now they like them. They used to hate them. And as soon as it's against the Democrats, which shows that they don't have any principles. The only principle is we hate the Democrats. Hey, do not count me as a Republican who likes what WikiLeaks is doing. I think there is a difference between something being revealed

through the course of an official investigation and something that has been illegally hacked. And I think there's a difference between exposing conversations that are happening about public policy and exposing what people are saying in private conversations that are not about the operation of the government. I mean, I know you're a big fan of Julian Assange. He was on our show.

As were you. Yeah, but I feel like that. like he's drifted. Now it's a lot of personal shit. I mean, at the beginning it was about, you know, we're exposing what's going on in Guantanamo Bay, and the Iraq War and letters I'll give you my take on. Scientology. And now

it's, last year their big thing was you know, the Sony hack. Let's find out what studio executives think of Adam Sandler. I mean, I really feel like he's lost his way a little, and he hates Hillary. But you know, if you're not doing anything or saying anything that is going to embarrass you, you don't worry

about it too much. When my, I campaign against Hillary, my campaign got hacked dozens of times, and my personal computer was hacked. Is that right? Absolutely. I'm not saying that her campaign did it. I'm just saying I was hacked. Go ahead and say it. Why did I just pile on? No? No, no, because I'm not

going to take the shot of accusing what I don't have yet. You just brought it up. No, that's interesting. No, my point is that... And may be true. My point is just that I got hacked a bunch of times and nothing ever that was embarrassing to me ever came out. Here's what I think. I think WikiLeaks, I think Assange, they're essentially anarchical.

and they know, just like a lot of people who are voting for Trump know, that he's their human Molotov cocktail, they want to blow up the system. It's an anarchic move, and that's... You're in your... With Van here, you were talking about eight Supreme Court justices. We may be down to seven. Any conservative, some of these conservatives, I should say, listen to that, that's music to their ears because they hate the federal government,

they hate Congress, they hate the president, they hate the Supreme Court, and if it just all fell apart, that would be their nirvana. That's what we all have to stand up against on November 8th. But isn't it fair, isn't it fair, isn't it fair to condemn the hacks and at the same time recognize that it's not a defense for what people have said as a result of that?

It's tough. That's a tough, yeah. I mean, aren't those two separate things? You can dance on that razor's edge, but yes, I... I mean, if you're making the point, if she... Because once it's out there, it's out there. You've said it and done it and okay. This is the double-edged sort of transparency, right? transparency in the abstract sounds like this great thing we should have all this

transparency we should always know what people in our government are saying but the double-edged sword is there was probably a lot of stuff going on in the 50s and the 60s and the 70s that was pretty awful okay we know what not probably but but there was more there was more faith in our institutions back then right is it a problem now that you know ignorance is bliss and we're not very blissful anymore as we get more information we're more angry at our government does that create the conditions where we have these elections that are just horrible where everybody hates everything. And that's what's going to happen as long as everybody knows everything about everybody.

One of the hacked Hillary WikiLeaks emails, she's saying something like, you need a public face and a private face. Who doesn't? Who in this world is exactly the same person from the moment you wake up and take a piss and you're farting? I think Bernie, I think Bernie had it right from the get go. Enough for the damn emails! That's right. We've got, the world is falling apart. The ice caps are melting.

We're talking about this. And by the way, that's why people are really catching it, because we have an economy that's not producing quality jobs. Okay. That we've got a one and a half percent growth rate for the economy, that they just revived downward. The economy grew, it was in the news today, and no one will see it. The economy grew 2.9% in the third quarter.

Yeah. This is my, of all the problems I have with this election, My biggest one is this. We have moved into a fact-free world where facts just don't matter, if they're reported at all. Right. The economy grew 2.9% in one quarter.

And before that, it was 1.4 and less than 1%. You're not going to have even get to... You won't even get a 2.5% growth rate for the entire year, which is historically a deplorable situation. Really? Because Mitt Romney ran in 2012 saying, I will get unemployment down to 6% and it's been under 5 for a year.

You see what I mean about... It's never about the facts. It's just about you hate the other side so you'll find whatever's wrong. We've got 50-year low in terms of homeownership. We've got 20 million Americans who pay more than 50% of their income for housing. What would you be saying if it was President Mitt Romney?

Would you be saying that? I don't think we'd be in this position. Really? Yeah. Because he was going to get it to sex. But for the first time... because of the Republicans and because of Bush, that's the whole Obama had to get a thought of.

For the first time, for the first time, since they've been recording these numbers, for the first time since they've been recording these numbers, there have been more small businesses that have closed up shop that have been created. So there's about 28 million small businesses. Nobody's sticking up for the small business. I cannot, I cannot argue that you can find bad in America.

But I must admit he's the best president of your lifetime. Come on. Come on. Come on. So listen. We know. Now, before today... Look at him!

Before today, it looked like Trump was going to lose. I don't know about now. But he put up something called Trump Tower Live. A lot of people are saying he's positioning himself to have his own TV show, TV network, like Fox News, if he loses the election. So Trump Tower Live went on the air, I think after the last debate. I watched a little of it.

It's a little like if Bellevue had a webcam. But it's... People are calling it Trump TV, and as it's Halloween, they're putting on a Halloween movie festival. Of course, the horror movies on Trump TV are a little different. Could we see some of them? Yes. Thank you, Ann. Their movies reflect what's scary to Trump voters.

For example, they're showing Rosemary's Anchor Baby. That's what's coming on Trump TV. I know who you groped last summer is one of the horror movies that. Death wears a pantsuit is... I love this one. The whining. The creature from the black neighborhood is... Oh, this is very scary to Trump voters. House of Fact.

It came from Whole Foods. Night of the Living Wage. And Chris Christie encouraged. Chris Christie and Curse of Chunky. And of course, there's nothing Trump can do to stop The Breeze. Listening on Chelsea, she's a comedian, she's an author, she's host of an international talk show. I'm so glad she's out there because I love to listen to her.

Chelsea Handler is on me. Nice to meet you. Okay. Well, listen, I'm so glad you're out there talking. You've become such a valuable voice. Oh, thank you. Yes, it's so true. I mean, you were off the air for a while.

and now it's good that you're back during the election. Just in time. Just in time. I know you've been having a lot of fun with it. And, you know, one thing we did on this show for a while was trying to show red flags about Donald Trump. And I love one of years I did not think of, which is that he doesn't drink.

And you say this is a red flag. Are we all drinkers collectively? You drink? Okay, good. That's one point for you. One. Yeah, I find that. That's very suspect.

I don't like what people don't like to broaden their horizons. I mean, you don't have to abuse alcohol in the way that I do, but I would appreciate people experimenting with drugs, hallucinogens, alcohol, loosen up a bit. Otherwise, there's a control factor that I don't trust. And that's what creates a despot or somebody like a Donald Trump. Absolutely. You know, and it's untrustworthy.

I couldn't agree more. I never trust people who can't get high. I respect people who are sober because they had a problem and they got sober. But if you've never tried it, yeah, you're fucking tricky. That's true. I agree with that. If you're a drunk, you get a pass.

But you did that drug, ayahuasca, which I'm dying to do. I mean, I watched that with great interest because, well, I've done mushrooms, not recently, but, I mean, I always... I'm actually on mushrooms right now. I'm glad you mentioned that. And it did sort of open up your eyes

to your, you know, your big takeaway, I think, was that you, you found something with your sister you hadn't before. Yeah, I definitely. And drugs can do that. I think drugs are great with like broadening your mind. I mean, it's not great to abuse anything, obviously, but it's great to think in different ways and to get outside of yourself

and look at your life like you're not you. Like you're not coming from this place of self-interest and self kind of obsession and just relax a little bit. So for me, it was a very positive experience. And I know for many other people, ayahuascas help them, you know, ayahuasca helps people quit drinking. I mean, it didn't help me do that. but I still have a great experience.

I'd like to drink on Iowa Waska. I did. It was fine. No, I mean... You know the group, The Doors. Yes, yes, I've heard of them. Well, you're younger. They weren't around when they were around. I was.

Yeah, but I know the doors. Lots of people don't. Does anyone here not know the doors? Exactly. Anyway, believe me. Some people don't know the... But anyway, they got their name from a book about drugs by oldest Huxley, I think,

some Huxley, called The Doors of Perception. That's what he termed drugs. They were doors to perception. He had a lot of perception. Right, okay. And, well, let's not go into the fact that Jim Morrison died on drugs. But that takes away from my point. Okay, so let's talk about the Trump kids.

It was in the news today that none of them have made donations to the Trump campaign, which I find amazing because you'd think of all the people they would but then again their father hasn't really either and people you know I like the way you you don't take the media bullshit about Ivanka you know being perfect

because I think I hear it even on the liberal stations well he's got great kids he can't be all bad that doesn't first of all those kids are wired into him for some finance I mean listen if I was a woman after everything that's happened and I don't hate Republican But he is such a terrible, you know, he's such a terrible figure in this time and now.

You know, I could actually imagine one day voting for a Republican. That's how open-minded I consider myself. But this is such a, I know, I mean, I would never do it. But I just like to say, maybe. Have you ever had sex with a Republican? I don't know. I don't get their names. But what I'm interested in is, is, like, I'm like, when you check this box?

I think I saw her at this Fortune's Women's Conference last week. I was speaking at this Fortune's Women's Conference where I was interviewing Anita Hill. And I walked backstage and the woman who runs a conference says, oh, this is Ivanka Trump. And I had to go shake. And I go, I just can't. I can't with you.

Like, if she were to come forward, and I know this is a fantasy, but if she were to come forward now after everything her father has said and done about women, that's been recorded, that's been proven time and time again, which she consistently denies. If she were to do that, she would be an American hero.

Like, people would go, oh, shit. She'd be my hero. Thank you. Like, I'm sorry, I know it's my dad. My dad is a sexual, he's sexually inappropriate and disgusting, and you better bet your ass if that he tried to run for office, I would fucking stop him. Right.

I mean, that is, I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, that bomber in New Jersey, the father, he reported his own son to the FBI. The unabomber's brother turned him in. That's the highest level of principle when you turn on your own family

because principle is even higher than that. Okay, let me... There's still 11 days for her to do that. She's watching. Do you know that the Trump people... Hey, hey, great idea. Do you know that the Trump people are saying you're a Trump supporter now?

Yes. I don't know if you've seen... No, yeah, of course. Of course I've seen it. Yes, of course. It says it's so clearly I am. Well, no, but I mean, it's funny the way they... You know, you try to do a good deed. You, like we all in our own bubble, we go after Trump, and you, I thought it was great.

You really tried to understand the Trump voter and say, hey, there is something there. We wouldn't vote for Trump, but there was something why it, and of course they turn it around and try to make you into something you're not. Trump thanked me yesterday. I'll probably call and thank me for this appearance. Not, once Ivanka goes on TV. No, you're going to be given the credit for that. Thank you. But he thanked me.

I don't think he's seen my film. I think what he did was, he saw that his name was in the title. And that was like... It's all he needs. So it was very weird. Let me say something about that. The idea that this man congratulates himself

every time there's a loss for a win and credits himself with winning debates that he doesn't win or, oh, that was triumphant, or this didn't happen when there's recordings of the very thing that he's denying he said on television. It's like, oh, he's living in another planet. And the fact that he dances around these subjects accuses Hillary of the very thing she does to him, you know that Ginger Rogers quote about, uh, dancing backwards and I hear. She goes, yeah, I'm doing everything he was doing. Who's the guy? Dancing backwards and heels. No, the guy she was

dancing with, that's your era. Spread a stare. My area. He was in the doors. He was in the doors. He was in the doors. I'm doing everything he's doing, but I'm dancing backward and heel. like Hillary Clinton is a fucking badass. Right. She gets everything. That's right. That's right. And it's so fighting.

And the fact that the right wing claims that she's killed 46 people on the internet if you type in her name and murderer, 46 names come up. When I saw that, I thought, that is really badass. That's who I want is my commander in chief. Somebody's going to go in there.

ISIS is going to shit. Here's a question I want to ask when I'm going to go back to Washington in a couple of days to interview the president at the White House. One question I want to ask him, and any Democrat, is even if Trump loses, he's going to win 20 states, probably. There are some people, I feel like he is the acid test. If you can put up a candidate like Donald Trump and people still vote for him, don't the Democrats have to ask what we asked after 9-11? Why do they hate us?

Why do they hate in America? He's the end of the bill. So badly that even Donald Trump will get your vote. get 40 to 50 million votes. He will. I think Democrats need to ask themselves that question. So I think Donald Trump is an unacceptable candidate as a lifelong Republican. I will say

that. I will also say that I think good for you. That Democrats do almost nothing to speak to people outside their base. They don't talk about growth. They don't talk about small business. They don't talk

about empowerment. They don't talk about any of these things. They don't I mean, the amount of opportunities that were missed with this administration. They talk about those things all the time, right? And that's why people feel more empowered these days, because Barack Obama has been in the White House for eight years. He's inspired. If people felt that way, Michael,

two-thirds of Americans wouldn't think we're on the wrong track. No, no, no, no, wait a second. Wait one second. Barack Obama, if, first of all, if you voted for Barack Obama, first and foremost, you owe, if you did, you owe that. He's asking you to go and vote. to go and vote for Hillary Clinton, you owe him and his legacy that vote.

If you want him not to be disavowed in the future, you can't have a guy like Barack Obama and then Trump come in. That means we live on Venus. Let's talk about the other bad news that came out for Hillary this week, which was Obama Care. Premium is for a mid-level plan. They're set to rise 25%

nationally. Nationally. In 27, nationally. This is in the 39 states that use healthcare.gov. could go up as much as 116% in Arizona. Now, these projections don't factor in the subsidies, and 83% of Obamacare and Rolese get subsidies.

So the best way the Democrats can spin this is, well, it's going to cost the taxpayers more. There's two ways to fix this, neither which is very palatable politically. One is you can force people by having higher penalties or more subsidies, which is higher taxes. So think about what is there a lot of in Arizona? Older people.

And this is a big part of the problem. There are a lot of snakes. It costs six times as much to provide health care for someone who's 64 compared to someone who's 19. But the way the law is set up, you can't charge someone more than three times what you charge the youngest person in your pool. So young people are paying for twice as much for their insurance compared to the care that they're getting. And that's why so few of them are actually enrolling. The projections where you were going to have 21 million people in these pools. You've only, you've had 9 million short.

It's mostly those young healthy people, which is why these pools are starting. And many of them are down with one health care provider because they've so over-regulated these insurance companies that they don't give them different choices. What do you think Donald Trump's plan for health care is? Wait, wait, I have Donald Trump's. Plans like this have kinks. It takes years for these things to work themselves out. I have Donald Trump's plan right here. Dana Bash asked him, so you're in the Oval Office.

You're saying Obamacare. It's got to go. Bash, it's got to go repeal and replace with something terrific. Terrific. Now, he has said this before. The first time he said it, I kind of let it go. When you say it more than once, that's your policy. That's the other policy that people have to look at when they're choosing.

His policy is something terrific. The problem with Obamacare is that the insurance companies are still calling the shots. As long as we leave our health care in the hands of private. insurance companies, this is the problem we're going to happen. Let me point out something else. The state of California is not going to go up 25% according to the LA Times this week because you have a Democratic governor.

This is what happens when you have a Democratic executive branch and both houses of the California Assembly are Democrats. It's not just Democratic states. They have put so many good regulations on the insurance companies here. It will go up only 5% in California next year. That's because insurance is already really expensive. They've got the insurance companies by the throat, and that is not what's going on in Alabama or Mississippi.

But you want the fact. The facts are that the people are a lot more sick and using it more than was expected. It's not actuarially sound. So you can look at it two ways. It was not actuarially or estimated to get the same losses as they're actually getting. And in some of these states like Michigan,

where you've got a 40% premium increase, I mean, that is going to overwhelm people that are not getting those subsidies. So you're right, Bill. If you're honest about it, there are two things. If you want to keep what you have, you're either going to raise taxes, increase subsidies, or single-payer.

Single-payer, universal health care. But that's not going to change the fact that you can still have. I want to push back away. There's a plan in place. There's a plan in place. You have to give it time before. So fix it. Fix it.

They are fixing it. She will cut it. Donald and Donald and Donald Trump are not going to fix it. But here are things. Right. The medical device tax. Nobody will make it terrific. And she can't fix it either because she needs Congress people to vote.

The only thing the Republican Congress voted to do about it is repeal it 60 times. What's interesting is so let's take the reason why these premiums are going up, the fact that so many young people don't want to get in the pools, you could pass a tiny fix that says, look, if insurance companies want to be able to offer plans that are a lot cheaper, instead of keeping this, it's got to be one third rule. Get rid of that rule and suddenly younger people can get more affordable health care. The problem is, A,

I don't think that you could get a fix like that through with President Obama in the White House because it's his law, it's got his name on it, which is why the possibility of a new president I think means there's more of a chance that you could get some of these fixes. But you also have to get Republicans in Congress who I think have a right to say

this wasn't our law. Or we could end Republican control of Congress in 11 days. That's not going to happen. At all, you don't think the Senate. Why isn't there's somebody on the left don't want to give people choice in health care or in a,

education or in things like employment training, which is where we've got like three million jobs that are posted and we can't fill them because we don't have, we have a mismatch between skills and what the private sector actually needs. Because first of all, to push back against your thing about the insurance companies, it's not most, that's not the biggest problem. It's the gouging from doctors and hospitals until you, until you put a cap on how much people can charge. I mean, they've done studies on this. From one hospital in one city to another, it can be like 10,000 percent different. They can charge whatever they want in here.

We saw it with the EpiPen. We saw it with Marys. That's why we have the government in charge. When you have the government in charge, then one hospital, one city can't do one thing. The government is why the EpiPen situation happened, because you had the government saying, we've got to buy EpiPens, we've got to buy them from this company, and there was no competition. So they said, cool, we can make epipens cost a couple hundred bucks a pop. If you have the ability to have someone else,

making EpiPens, then they can't, and you don't have government saying, it's got to come on this company. Because government's involved in the Veterans Administration, because government controls Medicare and Medicaid, that's what keeps the price of drugs down for old people and poor people. If the government was involved in controlling what the pharmaceutical companies and the insurance company food. You're going to have the same problem. One second.

One second. You're talking about actual real issues. Yeah. Okay. So it's a great point to make that Donald Trump has no idea about what you're talking about right now. No idea. No. No idea.

That's kind of important. That's kind of important. This is a great conversation if we were dealing with two intellects that we're running for friends. We are in. We're dealing with an animal, lunatic. Something terrific. And somebody who's been training for 30 years to be. Sorry, Rick.

I have to stop our discussion. Sorry, I'll meet you back in. Would you please? It's time for new rules. Everybody, new rules. For all, Tim Cain has to cool it with the harmonica. No one enjoys harmonica except the gregers. guy playing it.

It's like seeing homeless people having sex. The kindest reaction is how nice for you. New World, before rolling your eyes at the new men's fashion the new men's fashion friend of shorts made out of old Afghans,

consider the fact that they're perfect for those times that you're nuts want to feel like they're taking a nap on grandma's couch. Oh, man, that's ugly. New rule, as long as we're getting rid of obsolete technology like coal, let's also get rid of the handkerchief. I mean, come on, it's gross.

We have Kleenex now. Why do you want to have snot in your pocket? And while we're on the topic, the Hankies, elitist cousin, the pocket square, can also take a hike. This doesn't say I'm a man of style and elegance. It says, I don't have the guts to be a transvesta. New Rule, the stall for your black Republican committee

has to have at least one black person in it. Even worse, if you look at the picture, it looks like there may have been a black person there before, and now the white people are trying to decide who made the offensive remark that made them leave. New Rule, this Halloween, certain people are not allowed to give out certain candies because it's just a little too on the nose. Donald Trump can't give out tic-tacks.

Don Trump Jr. can't give out Skittles. Melania can't give out sugar datties. Chris Christie can't give out jellybellies. And Anthony Wiener can't give out hard candy. And finally, new rule. Presidential debates need some new rules. Starting with, each candidate gets three times in the debate when they can call, let's go to the videotape.

Good idea. So that when this... happens. But he also went after a disabled reporter mocked and mimicked him on national television. She can throw the red flag in his orange face and say, wrong.

Tape, please. I don't know what I said. I don't remember. Maybe if people could actually see Trump saying one thing a second after he claimed the opposite, they'd stop pretending there's really any other choice in this election, Rick, than to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Okay. So, Politifact tabulates that Hillary says something at least somewhat false 27% of the time. You know who's at 28%? Bernie, the ultimate straight shooter. 27 is pretty good for a politician. Trump is at 71. His pants are a raging wildfire

that cannot be contained. She lies about a quarter of the time. He's Donald Trump, so he grabs her pussy and says your pussy fell on his hand. Does Hillary play the game with complete honesty? No. To put it in football terms, she's deflated a few balls in her time.

And also that thing Tom Brady did. But she's still a really good quarterback. And speaking of quarterbacks, what is a guy like Colin Kaepernick, who's brave enough to lead a smart protest, say things like, it almost seems like Hillary and Trump are trying to debate

who's less racist. You have to pick the lesser of two evils, but in the end it's still evil. Really? Hillary's evil? You sound like someone on Christian TV. Hillary Clinton, as I was thinking about this earlier today, two names kind of came up.

One was Jezebel, and the other was Athaliah. If you know your Bible, you know who she was. Yeah, I didn't. But I looked it up. Athaliah was the daughter of Jezebel, and she seized power by murdering her grandchildren, you know, just like Hillary does. I'm so...

I am so tired of hearing... So tired of hearing, I know Trump's a creep, but Hillary doesn't seem genuine. Grow the fuck up. She's a civil servant, not a craft beer. You know, whenever I'm out with my millennial friends... chasing the pokey man or or getting our nipples pierced,

shaving our pubes, or raging action figures while sending out dickpicks. When the talk turns to the election, I hear some version of, ugh, they're both bad, or, uh, they deserve each other, or there's an election? Republicans have one path to victory in this election, and it's called false equivalency.

They can't deny Trump as harm. it's on tape. So they want voters to believe Hillary is just as bad. And in pursuit of that goal, they have a very powerful ally. Lazy people. People who like to say, they're all

bad. Because when you say that, you don't have to do any homework. Say they're all the same, and then you can sound justifiably jaded by the entire process when really you just don't know anything. You say you're cynical about politics. You say you're

cynical about politics, don't flatter yourself. Cynical comes when you know too much. You, on the other hand, haven't bothered to learn anything. Which Americans, by the way, are capable of. Nome Chomsky once observed that when he listens to a sports call-in show, he said, it's plain that quite a high degree of thought. An analysis is going into that. People know all sorts of complicated details.

On the other hand, he said, when I hear people talk about international affairs, or domestic problems. It's at a level of superficiality that's beyond belief. In other words, we're not clueless. We just apply our brain power to bullshit. It's true. Before people go out for a taco,

they will spend an hour on Yelp researching for the most authentic one, all for something that'll be out of your body in 15 minutes. People will use six different websites to get a plane ticket for a weekend trip. but they don't care who runs the world for four years? I don't get how millennials who can't tell these candidates apart have a hundred different subgenres for music that sounds like this.

Is that Dubstep or Techno Dub or Acid Techno? Because it all sounds like the same shit to me, but they can tell the difference when it comes to that. All right, that's our show. Tune in to Lonnie Little Bitch. Facebook Live, November 2nd, at 7th.000. Oh, yeah, 7 p.m. Pacific, 10 Eastern. I want to thank Rick Lazio, Kristen Saltis, Anderson, Michael Moore, and Chelsea, Hanwer, and Van Jones. Obama next week, that's right. Watch us on YouTube now. Thank you. Catch all new episodes of real-time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10 or watch them anytime on HBO on demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com.