Real Time with Bill Maher - Episode #414 (Originally aired 2/10/17)
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Welcome to an HBO
podcast from the HBO late-night series
Real Time with Bill Maugh.
Appreciate that.
That's very kind of you.
Please, I'd like it to go on all night.
But as always with Donald Trump,
there's just too much news to get to.
I mean, this administration happens in like dog ears.
You know, I mean, there's so much fucking crazy.
It's like three weeks of Trump
is like five years of Nixon.
But, you know what?
this was a good week for the resistance.
This was a
good week for checks and balances.
A good week for maybe
surviving President, man-baby.
Because a federal appeals court
unanimously ruled against his Muslim ban,
which means refugees from Syria, Iraq, Iran,
Yemen, Libya, Sudan, Somalia
are once again free to come here
and be Uber drivers.
How about that, ladies and gentlemen?
Yeah, how about that?
Turns out a law isn't just something Steve Bannon writes on a napkin.
And Donald Trump signs while making his smart face.
So, Trump has now lost twice in court.
We found out this week his closest advisor, Kelly Ann Connoe,
and his national security advisor, Mike Flynn,
or be investigated for ethical misconduct.
They told Donald Trump today that his wall,
his beautiful wall is going to cost twice as much that he thought.
It's almost like he's losing so much.
He's tired of losing.
Is that?
And, you know, this is a guy who takes losing well, doesn't he?
Yeah, when the ruling came down from the court, he was like,
oh, see you in court.
See you in court.
They're judges.
Of course, you're going to see them in court.
It's like saying, hey, Chris Christie,
I'll see you at the cheesecake.
factory.
I mean,
there's so much.
You know, how about this one?
Sean Spicer, his
press secretary, will
not confirm or deny
that he is considering
Sarah Palin to be ambassador
of Canada.
He said it'll take her a while
to learn the language, but we think
it's going to go
smoothly after that.
I mean, other countries
are literally
rolling their eyes.
I mean that literally.
Trump met today with the Japanese prime minister,
and he held his hand for a handshake for 18 seconds until, yeah, look.
There we go.
That says it all.
Back and to the right.
Back and to the right.
I mean, what do we tell other countries?
America's under new management.
It's like you ever pull into a holiday inn
and a rainstorm and you think it's a holiday inn,
but no, now it's a have-a-stay-in.
And there are hookers in the lobby
and crime scene tape and black mold
and the remote smells like lube.
That's American now.
But you'll be glad to know
that the president finally got down
to the issue that's really plaguing America.
Which retailers are carrying a vonka's clothing line?
Now, if you didn't know about this,
Donald Trump's daughter-wife
Ivanka.
She had
a clothing line, which was dropped by
department stores, including Nordstrom.
Of course, Trump went apeshit on Twitter
about this. You know what? Of all the people,
Mr. Businessman, he should
understand. They dropped it because the
merchandise just wasn't moving.
The only one interested in
getting into Ivanka's pants is
him. And then, of course,
he had poor Sean Spicer go
up there and say, this is a direct attack.
on the president's policies
and his family and it's not acceptable.
Okay, first of all, it's not an attack on his policies.
And if it was, so what?
This is a free country.
You don't work for Donald Trump.
We don't have to buy his kids' Girl Scout cookies.
And then,
Kelly Ann Conway, goes on Fox News,
and says, go buy Ivanka stuff.
Go buy it, everybody.
Well, first of all, the joke's on you.
Ivanka doesn't make Fox viewers a size triple X.
but also this is patently illegal
for a federal employee to go buy a product from
I mean now liberals are chanting
lock her up
lock her up
and you know Trump voters of course
now are boycotting Nordstrom
all of Trump friends are lining up behind him for this
Vladimir Putin said today
he's going to buy all his poison at Macy's
ridiculous
but you know
I mean, in his Nordstrom tweet, it happened during the intelligence briefing.
We know this. He's getting the intelligence briefing, and he's tweeting about this.
That's the president we have now, ladies and gentlemen.
Enough about the Middle East.
What's the latest on women's ready to wear?
Mr. President, if North Korea gets a hold of that plutonium,
shut up! I'm writing a Yelp review.
But here's the thing that pissed me off the most this week.
Did you see this? Mitch McConnell told Elizabeth Warren,
to sit down and shut up.
Right, okay.
He said, she was warned, she persisted.
Yeah, that's a meme now.
And then he pulled some ancient congressional rule
out of his turtle ass.
It said you can't accuse another senator
of conduct unbecoming his senator.
But that's not what Elizabeth Warren was doing.
She just read a letter from Coretta Scott King
that was super pertinent to the case she was making
against confirming Jeff Sessions.
This is supposed to be
the world's most deliberative body.
But Mitch McConnell
needs a safe space.
With a
speech code so your microaggressions
doesn't trigger his hurt feelings.
Winy little bitches.
Nothing has changed.
That's what they are.
Winy little bitches.
In Donald Trump's Nordstrom
tweet, he said,
My daughter, a Valk has been treated so unfairly.
She's a great person.
She's always pushing me to do the right thing.
Hey, Ivanka, push harder.
All right, we got a great show.
We got Pierce Morgan, John Waters,
and Corrine John Pierre,
and a little later speaking with the very funny Mr. Jim Jeffreys.
But first up, he is the junior senator from Minnesota
who serves on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
We love the Honorable Al Franken over here.
Al Franken.
Hi, Bill.
You said it all those years ago,
but it's going to turn out to be the Al
Al Franken decade.
It's the Al Franken Millennium.
Okay.
All right. So, Al, you know,
I've talked to you personally about how,
you know, I'm a great admirer
because you do things that
the rest of us wouldn't do, like have lunch
with Republican senators.
That's fun. So you know
what they're saying behind closed doors.
They must be kind of going
bad shit over this Donald Trump
administration to give us a little insight.
into what's happening behind the scenes.
Well, there's a range
in what they'll say.
And some will say that
he's not right mentally.
And then some are harsher.
No, no, that's not fair.
That was cheap. That was cheap.
There are some who, I guess, don't talk to me.
And, you know, I haven't heard a lot of good things, and I've heard some great concern about the president's temperament.
Okay. Well, that's very diplomatic of you.
Not very, was it? I don't think this was diplomatic. But, okay, I'll take it. I'll take it.
I saw this today.
51% of Trump voters think Trump should personally be able to overturn decisions by judges.
I know you and I are both people who believe in civics,
because we're old enough to remember when they taught civics in school.
I remember when you used to be, I've seen you do this on TV,
draw a map of the United States from...
That's geography.
Civics.
No, okay.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
That's why you're in the same.
I said it on my HBO out.
What's interesting about that, I saw that.
I think it came out last night or something,
and this is apropos the decision by the Ninth Circuit.
That didn't surprise me that 52 or 51% of Trump voters.
What was heartening was that it was only about 25% of Americans,
so that means that it was only about 5% of Americans.
So that means that it was only about 5%.
five or ten percent of Americans didn't understand civics or didn't understand the, that the federal
judiciary is independent.
Okay.
I mean, it was frightening to me that anybody in America would basically be saying we should make
this man, of all people, a dictator because that's what this says.
I know, but it says that 48 or 49 percent of Trump voters understood this, and that's good.
That's good. I really, you know, that's...
Boy, Washington has really made you an optimist, Al, and I appreciate that.
It's half full.
Yeah, yeah, tactful. Okay. So, all right.
I don't know what they're half full of, but they're half full.
So you're going to meet with the man that Donald Trump wants to put on the Supreme Court, right?
Yes.
You're on that committee. Okay. Now, I'm hoping you're going to say to him,
Your name is not Merrick Garland, so I can't vote for you.
I was asked by the White House counsel, because I'm on the Judiciary Committee,
who I would like to see a point, and I did say Merrick Garland.
Or someone like Merrick Garland, who's a consensus guy.
But my feeling, we're going to have hearings.
You know, I think this guy, I don't want another 5-4,
conservative activist
judiciary that
votes to
Citizens United and that
So I
This guy's going to have to overcome
a huge bar for me
Okay, but isn't it not about the qualifications
but about the fact that that
pick was stolen
Yes, it was.
And you know, I mean...
I agree with you.
But what are we going to do about it?
The Democrats cannot let that stand.
We cannot have two rules, one for Republicans and one for Democrats.
Okay, Bill, I hear everybody applauding, but just stop applauding for a second.
They have the majority, and we can't stop them from having hearings,
and so we're going to have hearings.
Now, what I'm saying is that the,
Roberts Court has been a pro-activist, pro-corporate, pro-pollution, pro-big money in campaigns and in elections.
And I'm not going to okay another 5-4 Roberts Court.
Okay, all right.
So Time Magazine came out for impeaching Donald Trump.
Is that the cover?
I have no doubt
that if Hillary Clinton was president
they would already have begun impeachment
in hearings. It doesn't matter about what.
They just would have done it.
Time says the emoluments clause, which is basically
and obviously the Trump family
is in violation of this. You cannot take
gifts from foreign countries.
They're doing it all the time.
To say nothing of the mental problem.
Al, when
will the impeachment hearing start?
Let me remind
you again that the Republicans
are in the majority.
So I think it's months and months away.
Really?
Look, I know everybody wants a quick fix
on this, but this is going to be
a bit of a marathon, but I'm so encouraged.
You're right that this week has been
incredibly encouraging.
And the energy around the country,
we're seeing red districts
where people are showing up at the town hall
hundreds of people are showing up at the town halls.
There's a tremendous amount of energy,
and I want to encourage people to keep that up.
Right.
And it really helps, and we got thousands,
hundreds of thousands of calls about Betsy DeVos at the Senate.
And that makes a difference,
because she is on notice now.
And she's not going to be able to do a lot of the things
that I think she wanted to do because of that.
Like walk into a public school.
So what you people do makes a huge,
She couldn't even do that today.
It would have been the first time.
Okay, so
Donald Trump...
The first time in a public school?
Yes, she could.
There were protesters wouldn't let her walk into the school.
Yeah, and it would have been the first time.
I got the joke now.
The audience is laughing so hard.
Last question now, then I'll let you go.
I appreciate your time.
Okay.
Politico says that there was a meeting yesterday
and Donald Trump with 10 senators,
six of whom were Democrats.
And Donald Trump said to Kelly Ayat, who was the senator, Republican senator from New Hampshire,
who lost narrowly as he did in New Hampshire.
Donald Trump said in this meeting, thousands of people were brought in on buses
from neighboring Massachusetts to illegally vote in New Hampshire.
So once again, the president is seeing multitudes that no one else sees.
And it said there was an awkward sign.
silence, an awkward silence, and there were six Democratic senators in the room.
I was hope that if you were one of those senators, you wouldn't have just been awkwardly silent.
And you would have said, no, excuse me, Mr. President, that didn't happen.
I would have said something like that.
You would have.
I would have said, oh, come on.
What?
You've got to stop doing this, Mr. President.
Right.
You know, just stop it.
I mean, the three to five million illegal people.
didn't show up and
vote all of them
for Hillary, and it didn't happen
and just stop doing that.
It is
very disturbing, and I
asked Jeff Sessions about this
in the judiciary
hearings, and I said,
you know, the Attorney General
is the one in charge of the laws
in this country, including election laws.
Did you kind of discuss
this with him?
You know,
are you concerned about this?
And this is very, very, very disturbing
that the president has a habit
of either imagining things
or making stuff up.
That's not, it's really outside the norm
of not just of presidents,
but of human being.
All right, Al, you were great at the hearings.
We love you for it.
Senator Al Franken, everybody.
All right, thank you, Al.
Let's meet our panel.
I want you, pal.
Hey, fears.
Okay, oh, look, the applause died soon.
All right, make it up, man.
All right, let's meet the panel.
He is a filmmaker, auteur, a maestro,
a trailblazer.
I'll fire whoever wrote that.
Thank you.
One of my first gay friends,
an author whose annual Valentine's Day
comedy tour will hit Seattle this coming Monday.
John Waters is over here.
She is the senior advisor and national spokesman
for moveon.org.
Corrine John Pierre.
Great to see you here for the first time.
And he's the U.S. editor at large for Daily Mail.com.
We used to see him on CNN.
I was on there all the time.
I even hosted it once.
Pierce Morgan is over here.
All right.
Don't forget to send us your questions for tonight's overtime so we can answer them after the show on YouTube.
So, as I said, it was a pretty good day for those of us who think we're in the resistance.
You know, they said that old creche, the Constitution was created by geniuses so that idiots could run it.
And we're giving that a good test, aren't we?
The judicial branch really did check the executive branch, and that's what we want to happen.
The lesson I think here is that it is personal.
People think they're so high-minded.
He insulted judges.
When he said that thing about the so-called judge,
and if something happens, blame him.
I think every judge in the country was like,
you know what, there are other people than you, Donald Trump,
who have an ego.
He's insulted so many people.
He's insulted the CIA and heads of corporations
and senators and now the judiciary.
I just don't think you can insult people like this for that long
and ever have any sort of success doing anything.
Well, what about what we've just heard, though?
We've just heard of senators say he's mentally ill, right?
He's an idiot.
I mean, this is a two-way street, isn't it?
I wouldn't have personally voted for Donald Trump.
He's not my politics, and I'm not even American,
so I couldn't vote from him I wanted to.
But, you know, I didn't think anything could match the hysteria
that I've seen in Britain since we've learned.
Europe and I voted to stay in, but this hysteria about these racist, sexist, neanderthals
who've seized control of our country. And now I come to Los Angeles where if you don't say
that Trump's the new Hitler, you get tired, feathered and drag to Santa Monica Pier and you get
drowned and beaten within an inch of your life. And I just think it's time everybody took a massive,
gigantic chill pill. But he is mentally ill. He's not mentally ill. He's the president of the United States. He
won a free democratic election.
You don't think kings can be mentally ill?
Well, King George III had a few problems, and if he hadn't,
if he hadn't, we might still be ruling Americans.
He takes it personally and, you know,
says terrorists about everything. And to me,
I can understand in some way, like I sometimes wonder,
moderate Muslims, aren't they against all gay people?
But still, I don't say they can't come in.
It's like Catholics have been terrorizing me for decades.
And I don't say no Italians.
But that's an interesting point of view
I have not heard before.
And I think, you know, you're on the page
with a lot of Republicans, because I think what they can do
is separate the crazy.
You may call it, oh, not mentally ill.
But it is crazy.
There is crazy out there.
And they think, well, you know, we can put that in the box over here
and just use him for policy.
But I don't think that works.
Because eventually, the crazy is going to sabotage.
the policy, even if the policy was good.
I just wanted to say
to Pierce's point, I think
the thing to understand is that
if you are not white male
straight, you fear
a Donald Trump's presidency, because
there is no place for you
in a Donald Trump's presidency.
And I think that's the thing that you're missing.
And if you look at the 18 months
of what Donald Trump did and what
he said, he ran the most
anti-immigration
campaign that we have ever seen.
He talked about Mexicans, calling them rapists and criminals.
He talked about Muslim bans.
And it is fearful for all of us.
He was also the first Republican president to stand there on inauguration day
and actually talk about the lesbian and gay community of America.
Now, I'm not expecting people...
Yeah, read the Republican platform on it.
He should read the Republican platform.
It was the most divisive inauguration speech I've ever heard.
Here's my point.
He did say it.
got absolutely zero
even acknowledgement for saying.
So I say, look, if you want to terrorize him
and demonize him, fine. But it has to
be fair to be affected. And all this
squealing and howling, self-defeating.
He's the president of the United States. He needs
to put his big boy pants on.
Don't be president of the United States.
That's what you're going to get.
You're going to get criticized.
That is a good point. Let me just show you,
first of all, let me just show you something he said
this week. Show the tapeers, I was a good student.
I think it starts with this.
to the Muslim men. To your point about
whether he is mentally ill or not.
I understand things. I comprehend
very well. Okay?
Better than
I think almost anybody.
Okay. Not only is that
mentally ill, but it reminded me of
this movie.
Like everybody said.
Exactly.
You know,
other presidents have lost
in court before.
Here's how a former president
who was so
much more mature than the president we have now, who we so wish we had back, handled it when
he lost in court?
First of all, it's the Supreme Court decision.
We'll abide by the court's decision.
That doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
See, I thought you thought I was going to go for Obama.
I thought you're going to do Nixon.
That's right.
But isn't that something we're at a place where we're missing, George Bush?
Yeah.
With George Bush.
Or Barbara.
It bothers me.
that you're trying to make the case
that this is somehow normal.
This is not normal.
We're not wrong to be saying
that we are trying to cling
to some sort of normalization.
Let me throw you back at George Bush then.
People say Trump's a monster,
right? He's the new Hitler and so on.
George W. Bush was the one
that took this country and my country
into an illegal, unethical,
immoral war in Iraq, which
killed a million people and thousands of truth.
Let me finish my point.
and killed a million people and thousands of troops, right?
That is a monstrous act.
It was taken as revenge against a country that had nothing to do with 9-11.
That is the act.
Trump's been there three weeks, give them time.
So my point is, you're talking about making...
But you don't see where this is going when somebody says,
I'm the smartest person ever in the history of the world?
You have to say...
My point is you have to save the outrage for genuinely outrageous things.
Otherwise, we all get set up with the outrage.
We're comparing him to Hitler.
But I'm sick of talking about Trump.
Everywhere you go, that's all people talk about.
But I'm sure that the, you know, the gypsies and the homosexuals are tired of talking about Hitler, too.
And you notice I didn't mention the Jews because he didn't either when he talked about the Holocaust.
You know, it's tempting to say he puts out so much crazy shit every week.
We're just going to throw up our hands and ignore it.
No, I'm not there yet.
Put up the list.
We made a list of the crazy.
the lies. This is just from
one week. Here's the crazy list.
Okay. Crazy. Number one,
so-called judge.
He called a judge, a so-called
judge. Keep going. Let's
hear the list. If something happens,
blame him. Blame the court.
That's insane. See you
in court, he said to them.
You think our country is so innocent.
That's what he said to Bill O'Reilly.
What's crazy about that?
Well, when I said it,
they fucking threw me off
be said.
No, but seriously, what is crazy?
What is crazy about that?
Let's go to the lot.
Let's go to the right.
You think America's innocent?
Seriously, after the...
No, I just said about the Iraq War.
Do you think that's innocent?
No, but I just think that it's...
But America has done bad things.
Sorry, everybody.
But how come...
So is my country.
That's not...
Putin is a brutal dictator.
He just said America's not innocent.
There's no comparison.
Yes, but it was in response to a question
when Bill O'Reilly said,
Putin's a killer.
And he said, yeah, a lot of people are killer.
You think we're so innocent?
innocent? I don't think America is
innocent. Britain's not innocent.
This is something Nelm Chomsky says.
It just shows that the
Republican... Is that good or bad? Sorry. Well, it just shows the Republican
Party has no principles.
No principles. It's just
about who wins.
I mean, it's amazing. As opposed to Democrats.
What? What?
As opposed to the Democrats who are currently behaving
in exactly the histrionic way
that they warned us, Trump and his
supporters would behave when they lost.
This goes back to the
This goes back to what Bill was saying.
This is not business as usual.
We have someone who is disrespecting the people of this country.
He's become mentally insane and an idiot tonight.
But it means it's time to riot.
But it's not.
It's not time to riot.
It's time to lay down.
We do need a resistance.
It's time to take a till bill and calm down.
It's not.
It is.
You know what?
You're so British.
You are confusing.
That's not an answer.
You and the Trump voters are confusing usual with normal.
Yes, it's good to, like, upset business as usual,
but it's not normal when the CIA says,
we can't tell the president's secrets
because we don't know if he will share them with Russia.
That is time to panic.
Are you crazy?
Let me connect how the lies, you know,
you say that this is what the Republicans want to do.
You just want to put that in a box.
The crazy, the lies.
I'm not a Republican.
Well, you sure sound like that.
I don't sound like one.
I'm not a Republican.
I wouldn't have voted for him.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm actually, I watch your share every week.
I agree with almost everything you ever say, right?
That's not my point.
My point is the hysteria is not going to get the Democrats back into power.
It's going to have the opposite of faith.
It will empower Trump.
It's not working.
Yes, it is.
We're not.
No, no.
It is working.
Marching every time he tweets is not the way to be here.
College student.
Stop studying. Get back out on the streets.
We won the court order last night.
It is working.
It is working.
If it wasn't for what Democrats were doing this week, we would have never heard of Betsy DeVos.
We never finished a list of lies.
Let's do our list of lies.
He said this week, the murder rate is highest it's been.
It's actually the lowest it's been.
Okay.
Then he said the media doesn't report terrorism.
Then he said any negative polls are fake news.
This is in one week.
Then he said the cabinet, longest cabinet delay in history, factually just wrong.
He's the thing I just told Al Franken about busing illegal people.
These are all just out and out lies.
And here's the thing, you could say, oh, they're just crazy lies.
Does it matter?
Here's the connection.
Jeff Sessions, our new attorney general, said about crime.
I wish the rise that we're seeing in crime with some sort of aberration or blip,
which it exactly is.
Show the chart.
There's a chart that we see of crime.
Okay.
But Jeff Session says,
no, my best judgment is this is a dangerous,
permanent trend.
Wait a second.
Then you have Sean Spicer saying
the Yemen raid, which was a giant dismal failure.
We didn't get the guy we were going after,
who's now gloating and talking about the fool in the White House.
We killed children and women.
They knew we were coming.
it was not a success.
But he's saying, because Trump says
it's a success, we all have to...
Why have you left out the fact that they killed 12
Al-Qaeda operatives? Is that not significant?
They killed 12 Al-Qaeda operatives? Yeah.
Why have you left that out?
Probably because they were eight years old.
Oh, because it sounds better to say they just...
They weren't, though. They weren't there, but that's not true.
And my point about the crime figures...
What is true is that the crime figures
in 2015 rose by the highest spike since 71.
The figures for 2016 are likely for serious murder and gun-related crime,
also likely to rise by a similar amount.
I think everyone should be worried about the massive spike in crime.
It isn't a massive spike in crime.
You are crazy.
Because we just saw the chart.
Look at the chart.
Look at the chart up.
Do you think the chart up?
Look.
Look where it was.
Look at the little...
2050.
Yes.
highest spiking crime, serious crime in this country,
this is 1971.
Look at the chart.
I live in Baltimore.
Look where it was.
Look where it is.
Look at the last two years, Bill.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Can I just put in one thing that basically,
I live in Baltimore, the gun violence is terrible.
One is too much.
Every family that had their kid killed,
they don't care if it went up or down.
So here's the thing that she do.
Can I give one advice to the guy?
The new Attorney General, hire more gay cops.
Lavender Blue can make
Black Lives even better.
Bill, here's what the...
What the White House
and the Attorney General is trying to do,
they're trying to stoke fears into the American Republic.
Sorry, the fear is real. That is what they're trying to do.
The fear is, what he wants to do
is he wants to make sure that they put policies
forth that's going to hurt the black community
and the Latino community.
That is what's happening.
That is exactly what happens.
I would love to continue this.
This discussion, but I have to move on to Valentine's Day.
You know, we were talking on the show last week that everything is politicized now, and that includes Valentine's Day.
You know, marriages have broken up because of Trump being elected.
Wives just wouldn't stand it.
They told their husband, they said, you know what, if you vote for this asshole, I will personally take it,
and I might leave you, and husbands dug in, and now they hate each other.
So here are the cards for them.
And you know, here's the ones from the conservative husband
to my liberal wife.
Treat my penis like your election day loss
and put it behind you.
You see, our lifetime together hasn't changed you at all.
Your ass isn't big, it's alternative small.
You see they...
You're the love of my life.
There's no refutin.
I love you more than Trump loves Putin.
Okay.
All right, and here's the opposite of one.
These are one from the liberal wife
to their conservative husband.
Having kids with the Trump voter
made me so sad until I remembered
you're not really their dad.
Roses are red, violet to blue.
I'm fucking the gardener to get back at you.
He may be rich, but you're president stupid,
and both of him and you are hung just like you.
I must be your Syrian refugee of love
because you never let me come.
You've got a heart like a lion
and a dick like a cannon,
but your ideas repulsed me.
Go fuck Steve Bennett.
All right, he's the Australian comedian
who's unusual punishments at Tarpelleys
Minneapolis on February 24th.
Jim Jeffries.
There is Jim Jeffries.
Great to see you.
Okay.
How you doing?
I wanted to have you here
because I thought last week
we were going to be in a war with Australia.
I'm happy to be here
before the Australian travel ban comes in, actually.
I wanted to have a friend
on that side of the world. What are they saying
about that in Australia?
Well, they're actually happy
because two weeks ago
you didn't know who Malcolm Turnbull was.
No one in America
knew who the Prime Minister of Australia was. Now it's like a big
deal. It's like his approval ratings through
the roof because he told Trump to fuck off.
Is that right?
Yeah, yeah, they love him now.
Same thing with the Mexican president.
Like, Pierce said, like, America's not innocent,
Britain's not innocent, but Australia is
fucking innocent, man.
Like, Australia's innocent.
Like, today's...
Well, not to its own people, right?
Well, no, the average.
Well, you know, that was...
That was when they were British people killing him.
We became Australians a lot later.
But it's weird,
because there's only one country that has been
an ally of America since the
Second World War who's been in every war with America
since the Second World War and that's Australia.
Right. Because other countries are dipped out. Like Britain did not go
to Vietnam. Australia went to Vietnam. Right.
France did not go to the war in Iraq,
although I feel they might go
to the next one.
And, uh, but Australia's
always been there. There's one other
country, New Zealand.
Australians love Americans. We've always heard that
and the proof is that most
of our actors, you don't?
No, I love Americans. I live there. I mean,
you live here? Why did... Let me ask you that.
Why did you choose? I mean, it's not like you
came from some third world hellhole.
You came from Australia. Why do you
want to live in America?
I love America. I have my son's
American. And plus, I can make a lot of
money out here in comparison
to Australia.
I actually got that order wrong.
The money was first.
My son, then I love America.
No, I like, look, America's a great
place, man. And let me ask you, I know you
talk about religion. You're not for it.
as I am not, and I've been having atheists on my shows for 23 years,
even before people knew what atheists were almost.
There shouldn't really be a word for it.
That's why I find weird.
There shouldn't be a word for believing in nothing.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, no, you're right.
Yeah, there shouldn't be a thing.
I hate people who are really adamant atheists
who try to convert people at parties and stuff like that.
I think one of the privileges of being an atheist
is you don't have to do anything on Sunday.
Right.
And a lot of people feel that way.
I mean, you know, it's very surprising
when you ask an audience.
How many are atheists, agnostic, or none?
Just write none.
I mean, you know, America didn't used to be that way.
Well, I don't, I like atheists,
but I'm not a big fan of agnostics.
Just, pick a fucking side.
Stop being so wishy-watchy.
Like, because if you're an agnostic,
you're not getting into heaven.
There's no way you're getting into heaven going,
oh, good, you're here.
You know what I mean?
Like, at least I'm committed right to the bitter end.
I feel like, just don't hedge your bets.
Pick a fucking side.
Okay.
So, you have a rant about guns, which went crazy viral.
Yeah.
That people, especially the liberal folks love.
And I know you have this feeling that anyone who has a gun just loves their gun.
But you know there are people in America who have a gun who don't love their gun.
Well, I assume they like their gun.
They wouldn't have it if they...
No, I don't have a gun just...
No, I don't like my antibiotics.
But in case I need them, I would take...
But you love the result.
Yeah.
But that's different.
You love the result.
Well, the thing is, if I had a gun,
I'd probably kill myself, so I wouldn't love the result.
That's why I feel like these people...
Are you depressed?
At times, sure.
Because most gun deaths are suicide.
Of course they are, yeah, whether it be yourself
or you get a cop to shoot you or what have you.
I look, I'm a...
Yeah.
No, that's what...
Like, police suicides, of course, that's how I'm going down.
It's very easy to do it in America.
Yeah, little black face.
No, I look...
What I think about guns is...
A joke in support of what you actually believe.
What I...
The other thing about guns is very simple, right?
So in Australia, there hasn't been
any mass shootings since the Port Arthur attack,
and that's when we banned guns,
so that makes sense that it hasn't happened since then.
Maybe it could be a coincidence.
But America can't do that.
Well, you had the same amount of police shootings
and fatalities in the first month of January
than Australia's had in the last 25 years.
Oh, yeah, we're the gun country.
Yeah, and so people can say Black Lives Matter
and all this type of stuff,
but it really comes down to, it is racism in some parts,
but it also has to do that everybody has a gun.
So I always think that someone's going to be shooting you.
If you think someone's going to shoot you, you're going to shoot them.
It's also a little racist to say that everyone who has a gun loves a gun,
because there are people who live in poorer neighborhoods than you do
who really need a gun.
Well, I...
When you live in a shitty neighborhood where the cops don't show up?
I'm new money, Bill.
I didn't always live in rich neighborhoods and I never had a gun.
Why is it? Why is it on guns?
Because I had a big thing about gun control at CNN when I was there.
Yeah, no, that's why you got fired.
Went down like a lead balloon, yeah.
Ooh.
It's why I went back.
No love with the Commonwealth.
The Australians were British convicts.
We know the background.
Oh, shot's fine.
That's right.
But the point I was going to make was this.
It seems to me on the guns thing.
There is a massive inconsistency, nay, hypocrisy.
Between the president's stance about, you know,
dangerous people coming into this country needing extreme vetting.
And at the same time, there is the absolute opposite
when it comes to checking who is buying guns in this country.
I agree, I agree, yes.
Why would it not just be absolutely consistent
with extreme vetting to prevent violence
to just bring in universal background checks
on every gun purchase in America
to make sure the people buying them aren't criminals
all mentally insane people?
And yet it's not happening.
And 32,000 people a year die of gun,
violence in America, another 70,000
get hit by gunfire. To put it in
perspective, Britain, which is one-fifth
of the size of the United States,
we have 32 gun deaths
a year. You have
85 people dying from guns
a day in this country. Do you know
about this group called gag?
You two guys want to be here.
This group called gag, which is
gays against gun, you people, Republicans think
it's fallatio on firearms.
I just wondered if you knew about it.
good group, right? Gag. They're here.
I've Googled it.
Yeah, yeah.
I've gotten different things up in a search.
Yeah, I can bet.
Okay, can I ask about a real issue?
Because, you know, it's important to talk about
Donald Trump. And it's also important
to talk not about Donald Trump.
Not that he doesn't affect everything, because I'm
talking about Obamacare now, but
this is a real issue that affects a lot of
people's lives. And it's interesting that the
Republicans are really pulling back on this
now. Because, of course, they never had
an alternative plan, and
Now people are showing up at the town halls screaming at them because we have our own tea party now, which is awesome.
Well, what could Trump care be if you think about it?
When you get an operation, the doctor brands his name on your organ?
Or free facelifts.
Reasonably priced hair transplants?
Yeah, well, you know, it's easy to make fun of his hair.
But if you notice recently, it's different.
He has like a duck tail now, a juvenile delinquent.
It looks like Johnny Deppel.
Crybaby hooked up with Bob's big boy.
It's really impeachable.
It is.
But it came out that
35% of Americans said
that they thought Obamacare
and the Affordable Care Act
were two different things.
You know,
that is depressing.
That is depressing.
Well, in their defense,
they do have two different names.
So I'll give the Republicans just one credit,
which is they've been able to do something
that Democrats and President Obama was not able to do,
which is sell the importance of ACA and Obamacare.
And now you have Republicans, as you were mentioning,
running away from their town halls
because they can't explain why they are going to repeal Obamacare
without a replacement.
And they are very much the dog that caught the car.
And for six years, they never did anything.
They didn't work with the Democrats.
They just decided, we're going to repeal, repeal,
with nothing to follow that up with.
And now they're realizing rhetoric is not policy
and they cannot govern with rhetoric.
But the truth about Obamacare, right,
but that is true.
And I come from a country where universal health care is for all.
So I totally applaud the idea of Obamacare.
The problem with it was the implementation
has led to people having massively high premium.
They wouldn't let him do it right.
The problem was, and always will be,
that we still had to cut in private industry.
That's right. That's right.
You cannot have life and death
pitted against the profit motive.
This would be a great time for the Democrats.
It wouldn't pass, but people would like it
to introduce single payer.
Why do people...
Why do people have great misgivings about Obamacare
but love Medicare?
Because Medicare is simple.
It's simple. Medicaid, Social Security, it's simple. You get a check.
Okay, Obamacare, just too complicated. People don't like complicated. And it will always be complicated as long as we have to.
And expensive, right? It became the unaffordable care rights for many people. So it hasn't been without flaws, right?
We all know it hasn't been without flaws. What I'm saying is Republicans refuse to work with Democrats for six years. That is the fact.
Well, I don't see many Democrats working with Republicans.
That's true.
That's because...
No, they will.
That's because Republicans haven't offered anything.
They just said,
repeal repeal.
So what is it?
Show us.
What's the replacement?
It would be great to think
the Washington would now come together
for the sake of the health of the American people,
wouldn't it?
That would be a great thing?
But how would you replace it?
But what's the replacement?
There are clearly parts of Obamacare which work very well.
There are parts of it that don't work well,
and it's become unaffordable for many Americans.
But again...
You've got to get in there with the Democrats,
and you've got to work it out.
Until you have a system where you stop up and do that.
Stop the gouging.
I mean, it was in the news this week.
Remember the EpiPen?
It went up from, I don't know what, to some ten times as much.
That's gouging.
They just did it with the, you know, people who have opioid addiction.
And they need it basically an epipen for junkies.
That went up from like several hundred dollars to several thousand dollars.
That cannot stand.
Yeah.
And this, can I ask this one last question?
The people who said during the campaign that Hillary Clinton was the left,
of two evils,
could we get the apology right now?
Why?
Why?
As if, are you serious?
I'm serious.
Like Hillary Clinton would have a cabinet
with Betsy DeVos
and fucking Rick Perry?
She wouldn't have a Muslim ban.
They wouldn't have a Muslim ban.
They wouldn't be feuding with everybody in the world.
They wouldn't be doing this shit with Russia.
Are you crazy?
Calm down, Bill.
There is no Muslim ban.
If there was,
85.
Oh, sorry, why don't we...
Fuck off.
Okay.
It's the fucking Muslim ban.
Okay.
This is the point of Muslim ban.
This is a talk about the hysteria.
I'm talking about.
85% of the world's Muslims are allowed into the country.
This is what you do, Piss.
You say, he hasn't done this.
He hasn't done that.
He's not going to do all this things.
Give him a fucking chance, mate.
You know what I mean?
Why not?
He literally didn't kill the Jews on the first day.
He worked up to it.
Mate.
All right.
Let me see.
I have to stop you all.
That is the exact.
That is the exact, ridiculous, hysterical, over-the-top nonsense.
If people are not afraid making people like you are ridiculous.
Then it wouldn't have...
He's not the new Hitler.
You just like...
You just like that you won The Apprentice and you have a famous friend, mate.
That's all you like.
Can I say one thing?
I know what you like.
That's all you like.
You're losing your audience.
I'm not losing my audience.
Because you're sounding unpleasant.
Am I losing it?
I'm losing it?
Can I say this might be the worst thing?
You see, the right?
with me. This might be the worst thing that could happen, and you all haven't even considered
this. Just suppose, just suppose, that Donald Trump and these horrible white men and the one black
man that's even worse, Ben Carlson, suppose that they made everything better. Wouldn't that be
awful? Yeah, it's not going to happen. Thank you, everybody. Time to. New rule. New rule, before
you get on your high horse and start criticizing this man's decision to support Donald Trump,
Show me one other time when he made a bad choice.
New Rule, the international symbol for choking must be changed from this to this.
Can't feed up there.
New Roop. You can buy these lollipop to celebrate the brand new Chinese Year of the Rooster,
but you have to call them what they are.
Cock suckers.
New Roos, Sean Spocker.
has to stop sounding like he's using the white guy voice
that black comedians use
when they make fun of how white people talk.
No one had numbers
because the National Park Service,
which controls the National Mall,
does not put any out.
I don't even think that's Sean Spicer.
I think that's Dave Chappelle and Whiteface.
New rule, now that's the least.
we've all seen this picture of a...
Yes, it's real,
of a young Donald Trump in his bathrobe
lying across pink pillowcases
with a come-hither look.
He has to answer this question.
How was he?
New Role, someone has to tell the owners
of this Chinese food restaurant
how much we appreciate their honesty.
You didn't...
You didn't promise the world.
and we weren't expecting it.
We're in a strip mall
at two in the morning. We're high.
Does the beef in your beef and broccoli
contain any beef at all?
Yes?
Then in the words of President Trump,
we want deal.
And finally, new rule
with Valentine's Day coming up.
Everyone must take a minute and remember their first
love. I sure remember mine.
I went off to college at 18
and I fell hard.
Not for a girl.
That would have been my first choice.
But I was a slow developer socially.
You know those letters that college guys send to Penn House magazine that begin?
I never thought this would happen to me.
Yeah, well, that never happened to me.
But I did fall.
I did fall in love with books and ideas and knowledge.
And also my hand, that's true.
But there is no doubt that it is truly a kind of...
of love affair when you go off
to a place where you have
intellectual epiphanies because
learning is so revered
and the celebrities
are the smartest people.
I may have been able to get a blow job
in college, but I got my
mind blown on a regular basis.
But, you know, that was
another country. One of the saddest
things about the one we live in now is
we don't seem to want smart
people in our lives anymore.
Smart presidents. Can't
have that. Scientists,
what do they know? Newspaper
editors. Lawyers,
fake news.
You know, people used to get their news
from newspapers
because professional newsrooms
took separating fact from fiction
seriously and employed
people who had studied how
to do that. But now
people get their news on Facebook
by sharing, or as it
used to be called, hearsay.
Instead of all the news that's fit to print,
you click on a link from your cousin Jody
who runs the Tiltor Whirl.
Why waste money on a subscription to a newspaper
when they would just blow it on war correspondents?
Gone are the Ben Bradley's of the world
who brought a president to his knees
way before Monica Lewinsky did.
A student in a social media focus group once said,
if the news is important, it will find me.
Except it doesn't.
That's how we wound up with President Bannon and his dummy.
It's not surprising that it can't find you,
since on social media news competes with videos of Russian car crashes,
creepy clowns, and a rabbi doing the mannequin challenge.
And you know how they say you can't make this shit up?
Turns out you can.
By Election Day last year, the top fake news on Facebook
was getting more shares, clicks, and comments than the real news.
Millions of people believed some straight-up bullshit
that the Pope had endorsed Trump.
When, in fact, after Trump won,
what the Pope said was,
I'm praying for his enlightenment,
to which God said,
I've done a lot of miracles,
but give me a fucking break.
We used to respect scientists.
That's why every stoner in the 70s
had a poster of Einstein on the wall,
right next to the one of the naked black chick
with the huge afro.
But now,
Now, only 36% of Americans say they have a lot of trust
that information from scientists is reliable.
Well, 98% of scientists say humans evolved over the millennia.
But that view is shared by not nearly as many real Americans.
Trump supporters don't think species can change over time.
But they do think Trump used to be all about himself,
but now he's working for us.
This Valentine's Day,
can we please fall in love with knowledge again?
You know, under President Obama,
the Secretary of Energy was first a Nobel Prize winner
and then a nuclear physicist.
Not that Trump's pick for the job
doesn't have impressive credentials.
How did it happen?
We went from being led by the smartest person in the room
to the biggest jackass on Twitter.
All right, that's our show.
I'll be at the Sangre Theater in New Orleans, March 18th
at the Civic Center in Oklahoma City April 9th.
I want to thank John Waters,
Marine, John Pierre, Piers Morgan, Jim Jeffries, and Al Frank,
and join us down for overtime on YouTube.
Thank you, folks.
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