Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime - Episode #368 (Originally aired 10/16/15)

Episode Date: October 16, 2015

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maher. All right, here we are. Now, Lawrence, this is for you. If you do not win the Democratic nomination, come on. What are the chances of that?

Will you run as a third-party candidate? Look, I want to be a Democratic candidate. I want to have a chance on the Democratic stage to rally people to what I think is an issue at the core of the Democratic Party, restoring democracy to the people. And that's what I want to do. I want the chance to do that.

Now, it's been hard because, you know, I'm a teacher. I'm not a billionaire. I'm not a politician. If I were a politician, I could be paid while I was running for the United States presidency. But as a teacher, once I start running, I've got to give up my job. So there's a period of time where I can run on credit cards and savings accounts when they can't pay me from the campaign or anything, where I try to get into the raise. And what I did in my case was raise a million dollars in less than 30 days. That's more than five Republican candidates.

it's more than Jim Webb and Lincoln-Chafee, and is just about exactly what O'Malley raised. I rallied 10,000 people to the campaign. We have a real campaign staff. I qualified for public funding, but the Democratic Party wouldn't even acknowledge me as a candidate. And so the polls wouldn't include me on their polls. And so when they said 1%, you have to be at to be in this race...

I would be careful about... This is kind of what Jim Webb was doing the other night. You know, I saw that. You know, yeah, you know, it comes off as whiny, and then people don't like it. During the debate, I tweeted. They won't let me talk. They will let me on the...

During the debate, I tweeted that you should be included. So I was trying to help you out there. But the point, but the question is, Bill, now here's a question. Do we know that was really... You're so altruistic. But you're on the other side there, John. I know. I'm awful.

Yes, I don't... Clear play. What do you have to do to be able to... We allow everybody in the Republican debate. But, you know, I think we've been around this Mulberry Bush, but the issue, I think, is being raised by the... the other candidates. But if the issue is how do we get a democracy first?

Like, how do we make that the priority? What Bernie said in that debate, one line that I think was the most important line, not mentioned by anybody, he said, if we're going to have any chance of addressing these problems, we've got to deal with campaign finance, which is exactly my But this is my...

80% of Republicans agree with you, according to the Bloomberg polling this week, which is fascinating. I thought his line was about the damn email. One of my big problems with liberals in this era is their ability to nitpick fights on the very, very, very, very, very far end in the spectrum. You know, Dalchia and Gabana, remember that? How dare they say, because they're two ancient Italian men, that they don't

think that the babies should be made artificially? Well, you know, you agree with them on 99% of the thing. They're two gay men. You really want to pick this giant fight. I don't know about this example you're citing, Bill, but I do believe... Well, I'll tell you all about it. You didn't hear about the Dalchian-Gabana skin? Well, I followed Delcianabana, but in stores not this. but I believe very much in working with people and you subsume a lot of the differences you might have to campaign on one big issue and I don't believe in sectarian fights

and I think liberals, the real problem with liberals over the last decades has been that they haven't taken their own side in the fight and I think one of the things that's appealing to Bernie Sanders put aside socialism is he's a fighter and he's fighting on behalf of people and not special interests. People want a fighter.

So let's fight the people that he's fighting instead of fighting him. The good thing about the Dochangipan, the thing, is established unequivocally that Elton John is king of the gays, right? You now know that definitively. But look, this is, this is a small issue. The point is, you know what? The nation was founded 150 years ago to redeem the promise of democracy. I do not make it a small issue.

Johan, what's behind the rise of anti-establishment candidates like Jeremy Corbyn in the UK? Yeah. Jeremy Corvin is the candidate for the Liberal Party, and he is way out there to the left. I mean, more than Bernie Sanders even is here in America. Absolutely. He's way to the left. Name some of his positions that would establish this point.

Well, it's very interesting. One of the key things about Jeremy Corbyn is that he's a rejection of the new Labor project. So I think one of the things that happened in the U.S. is that the Bush years were so horrific and so awful, that it kind of precluded some of the things that went wrong under the New Democrats and under Clinton. And Jeremy Corbyn, I didn't really, we didn't have that same gap in Britain.

So Jeremy Corbyn is really about, first thing he said was about apologising for the Iraq war, but also about rejecting so much of the kind of neoliberalism of the new Labour years of the Tony Blair years. And I think a similar thing has to, Bernie actually represents a similar critique of the Clinton years, although he doesn't couch it is that. And we really need that.

A lot of the things that are going wrong for those people in Vegas that I met, they did go wrong under the Clinton years. We can forget that. You're right that there were good things as well. It's important to acknowledge that. No, no. I'm not a glit. and booths? Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. All right, John, do you see Marco Rubio as a serious

content? What? Yes. Yes. I mean, he's the guy I predicted would win the nomination. I think it's going to come down to three folks. It's going to come down to, on their establishment side, Rubio, Kasich, or Jeb. I still think Jeb has a shot. And I think on the other side, it's going to be Ted Cruz. I don't like Ted Cruz. I don't want him to be it, but I think it's to be him. So it's going to be one of those three against Ted Cruz for the final final. I don't know. What odds would you put on Trump being the nominee? 20%. That's high. I'm going to fly out of here.

He's died many times. The media has completely turned around up. Let me say something about Donald Trump. No one has played the media better than Donald Trump. He is, but no one has done social media with the Twitters. He is dominating the news coverage of this whole campaign in ways that no one has ever seen. Because he does it off the cuff. And he's authentic in his own kind of crazy way.

And I think it's fascinating. But you can talk about social media. But this past summer, I don't like him. This past summer was an example of media malpractice at its highest. Well, it could be. You could not turn on a TV set without Donald Trump sucking up all the options. Listen, listen. And it was a great disservice.

You're preaching to the establishment choir. No, I understand. I understand. But I will say, and I'm an establishment. But let me say this. Let me say this. That the reason he got in the news so much is because he's newsworthy. And he says stuff that.

What's newsworthy for exactly? And the world we live in. It doesn't take eight weeks to long. the depths of Donald Trump's brain. Like, we could figure that out in about a week. He's always... But if you look at it, we have this huge amount of coverage. He's clickbait, but he's good clickbait.

And we had a huge amount of coverage about this ridiculous email standards. And then less coverage of Bernie Sanders than the email stands. To me, interesting question. Hey, you guys are on the media. I know. But this is worth remembering Hillary Clinton was at Donald Trump's wedding. She took money from him, right? I'm shocked.

When we're talking about this issue, when we took $8,000. Yeah, but do we think that Hillary Clinton was at Donald Trump's wedding because she likes him and wants to hang out with him? I think most people at people's weddings because they like them? Well, that's a good point. In my neighborhood, yes. Does the panel expect any revelations to come out of Hillary Clinton's testimony before the Benghazi Committee? Right, we'll be off next week.

I think she testifies on a Thursday. We should have mentioned here on the air tonight, a second Republican this week came out and basically said, the thing is rigged. It was just to take political pot shots at her. they can't even keep that quiet. So it's a longer running committee than the Watergate Committee. It's wasted about $4.6 million. However, I have a contrary.

She was on that Watergate Committee, wasn't she? She was. I have a contrary in view. But that wasn't bullshit. There was a senator named, there was a senator named Senator William Fulbright, who I think in 1966 held hearings on the Vietnam War. I think this country would be served well by a real Benghazi committee, which would look at, why does the United States policy been one of regime change?

What were we doing in Libya? What has that led to? when the crisis we see play out in the Middle East. That is a real committed. You know, I think that Trey Gowdy has been trying to do the right things. I do think that the Republicans have tripped all over themselves. And if they were trying to do the right things, the media attention now has been, whatever effort they put into it

have been kind of sidetracked. The tragedy of all this bullshit opposition is that it prevents the real opposition that the Democrats actually do need because they do lots of bad things. Well, you know I'm rooting for you, John. Thank you, Mark. All right. Thank you, everybody. I appreciate your hope. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10 or watch them anytime on HBO on demand.

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