Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #404 (Originally aired 09/23/16)

Episode Date: September 24, 2016

Overtime Episode #404 (Originally aired 09/23/16) - Bill and his roundtable guests Maureen Dowd, Michael Franti, Max Brooks, Lanhee Chen and Neera Tanden answer fan questions from the latest show. See... omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maude. Okay, here we are on overtime. Max, with the government issuing guidelines for driverless cars, should we embracing this new technology to be wary of it? Why do you know about this? Well, basically because there's a national security aspect to that. If it can be automatic, it can be hacked. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:00:25 So I don't know about you, but I dread the idea that one day somebody hacks all of our driving. car's at once and kills more Americans in one day than 9-11, which is something we need to be wary of. Oh, my God. Just when I thought there was... Sleep tight, everybody. There's something worse than a Trump presidency. There it is.
Starting point is 00:00:47 If it's automatic, it can be hacked. Yeah, that is very... I love how Max can just turn anything into like a zombie apocalypse. Death and description. It's called neurosis. Lonnie, whether or not Trump wins, is the Republican Party forever changed? I don't know that it is. I've always thought of this as kind of a temporary correction, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I think after this election is over, though the Republican Party does have some soul-searching to do. But to say it's permanently changed, it implies that I think this guy actually will have some permanent influence on how we think about the world. And from a perspective of someone who hopes that isn't true, I hope it isn't true. but, you know, it'll be an interesting discussion after you. But isn't the problem their voters? I mean, they didn't want Trump, a lot of them, and we see a lot of these Vichy Republicans who go along because they don't want to upset the apple card.
Starting point is 00:01:45 They know better. They know better. They know where their bread is buttered and where their voters are. But, I mean, you can get rid of a Trump. You can't get rid of the voters. That's who they want. Well, but that means that the Republican Party should, be doing what it's always done, which is expanding its appeal to more people.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And to have a message that expands its appeal to people. But that's not what the base wants. The base is deplorable. I think... Like your brother. The base is definitely feeding on, so you just said this earlier. Some percentage of the bases. That's fair. But, you know, we have to be clear to not to overgeneralize, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I think that there is some percentage of the base that might feel that way. But I also think that there are a lot of Republicans who, are trying to figure out, you know, what does this all mean? And I think we have to have a conversation about expanding the party, which is what we tried to do theoretically after 2012. And now I think we're going to have to lose another presidential election to learn a lesson. We should have learned after losing the last two. What do you do with your family when, like, you have these discussions with your brother? And then, is there a point where you just go, okay, let's talk about something else?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Well, I try to make it seem lighthearted in the column, but actually it can get pretty testing and when I was covering W my older brother said to me you know if there was a hurricane you would blame it on Bush and then there was a hurricane and I blamed it on Bush Katrina because it was a fuck up yeah Katrina he really
Starting point is 00:03:16 screwed up so but like when it's your family okay I mean you can't change your family and you love your family in matter what but like I never I just like Matlin and Carval. Like, I never understood people who could marry someone who's in the other party, because I feel like politics is an extension of your morality. Well, it feels like that this time, for sure.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Right. Because you have, I mean, the differences between these two candidates, the kind of way Trump is talking about so many Americans. I've read articles about married couples where the husband, usually, of course, the guy is voting for Trump, and the woman, and it's like literally causing a rift in the marriage. a rift in the marriage. And I can understand that. To me, that would
Starting point is 00:03:57 be a real deal breaker. But there have been moments when certain Republicans have stood up for doing the right thing. Remember when that woman said, Obama's an Arab, and McCain said, oh, no. He found his soul. And then Powell got even better and said, yeah, and what if he was a Muslim? Is there something wrong
Starting point is 00:04:13 with that? You know, there are times. There was a time when the Republican Party jettisoned the John Birch Society. The people who said foreigners get out, and they said, uh-uh. That's un-American. And we're not going, if that means losing you, we lose you. Parties do that. The Democrats lost the South because
Starting point is 00:04:29 they said, no, no, no, no more segregation. And this is the chance. This is the chance for you guys who sleep in Reagan Underreuse to suddenly come out. You remind me, I can get a new pair soon. There you go. This is the chance. Do it. It's going the other way. Ted Cruz today. No, but he is
Starting point is 00:04:49 a reliable douchebat. It's going to be really hard for the Republican Party to invite more people in after Trump went through and just like, shot a bullet through every single person that was out there. I completely get that. But you know what? But you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's not a cause that I want to give up on. And I don't think it's a cause that I think there are some people that really are committed to this. And we'll have to see what happens. It might be the case that the Republican Party, you know, is never the same. Yeah, when I was a kid, Republicans. Or he could win. Or he could win. Let's not forget that.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Right. He could win. Which is why. protest vote doesn't matter because a protest is only as good in as much progress as he is. It's just beat this kind. Until he says... It won't vote. It will be here.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Until he says, you're not leaving here until you're voting to Hillary. We're going to... There are other people considering protest votes. Johnson, you know, other people. But why don't we all admit it to him? Why don't we all admit it? there was a total whack job lefty running as the Democrat. Anthony Wiener.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Right. If Anthony Wiener was running on the Democratic side. I would vote against him. I would vote against Wiener. I would totally vote. If it was Colin Powell on one side and Anthony Wiener on the other side, sign me. Well, or Mitt Romney. Or Mitt Romney.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I'd vote for Romney over Wiener. Right. Because, yeah, I would too. Okay. And so would we all. We're willing to go there, brother. You with us? Well, the problem.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Oh, man. Okay. Let's go. What's getting is the double pay. Hillary Clinton's no colon power. He's a double pay, double pay. We have few enough Asian Americans on our show. We don't want to alienate this.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Today you got two. Today you got two. This is your quota for the year. Right. I know, we're done. Okay. But we're not for Jamaica. Will there...
Starting point is 00:06:43 And in Jamaican. Will there be repercussions for our food system as a result of the Bayer-Monsanto merger? Oh, not since the Hitler-Stalin pact. have I applauded a merger like that way. This is a big one, and this is one of those headlines that nobody talks about. What happened was, since, for 12,000 years,
Starting point is 00:07:05 farmers have banked a little bit of their seeds every year to replant. Then Monsanto came along and said, no, no, these seeds are intellectual property like iPhones. You need to buy new seeds every planting season. They control 90% of our soybeans, 80% of our corn, which isn't everything. That's bad enough.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And now we are giving the control of our food supply to a foreign power, the Germans, who could very easily, legally sell it to China, who could blackmail us with a food embargo the same way the Arabs did in the 1970s. And that... Mr. Nussie. Oh, boy. Thanks for coming on. Happy time.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Big smile, everybody. I agree with you. I agree with you. And what's even worse is that when Bear bought the Monsanto, they had to borrow a ton of money to do it. And so now you've got this company who's broke, who's got to make back all this money, they're going to do everything they can to make sure that no GMO legislation has passed in America. You think before when they were spending millions of dollars, they're going to spend billions of dollars now to make sure that that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Okay. Obama's got six shows. We have six shows left to do. And then no more racism. What do you? Yeah. Or crime. You think he'll do it?
Starting point is 00:08:20 You think he's going to come on this show? I'm losing hope. I've been my big supporters of getting Obama on the show. What is he afraid of? I don't understand how you lost out to Bear Grillis and Anthony Bourdain. That's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:08:36 To every show ever been on the air. Even that girl with the green lipstick. Right. What do you think it is? Maybe it's the Anthony Wiener jokes. It's because they're tame and safe. Thank you. Focus grouped. Thank you, everybody.
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