Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #409 (Originally aired 11/04/16)
Episode Date: November 5, 2016Overtime Episode #409 (Originally aired 11/04/16) - Bill and his roundtable guests David Frum, Jennifer Granholm and Martin Short answer fan questions from the latest show. See omnystudio.com/listener... for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Okay, here are some questions. Jennifer, do you think that as President Hillary would be likely to reach across the aisle to fill positions in her administration?
Absolutely. Absolutely. It's what she did in the Senate. It's what she is intending to do.
She wants to make sure that she can demonstrate, that she can, you know, create opportunity to bring sides together. She will absolutely do that.
You know what my problem with that, though, is that the Democrats have this habit.
of filling security positions with Republicans,
and it just makes people think,
yeah, they're the Daddy Party.
They take care of shit.
I'm a Democrat.
So, you know how I'm serious about the CIA?
I appointed a Republican to head it.
Comey, head of the FBI, appointed by Obama.
Nothing went wrong there, huh?
Don't assume, though, that she would do that traditional thing.
She's going to fill half of her cabinet with women.
She's going to have a cabinet that looks like,
America and
America has some Republicans
in it too. So she probably
and some sane ones. Yes, exactly.
But they won't all just be in the
I don't think in the security area.
You know Justin Trudeau filled half his cabinet with women
and they asked him why, he said, because it was
2016. Right.
I mean, most of the world, the
civilized world, does that already.
Hello. We're way down.
We are so far behind. Like, percentage of women in government
America is like 80th.
Why is this that we don't have access
to affordable child care.
It's because we have not had women
in sufficient numbers in leadership.
Why is it that we don't have parental leave that's paid?
We're the only industrialized nation that doesn't.
Because we have not had women.
And I say parental leave,
because men should have the opportunity to choose to stay home to.
I think people are underestimating the sexism
that's still out there.
I really do.
I think, you know,
I don't know if this would be happening
the same way to a man.
Can you imagine?
I mean, there was, Trump was out there yesterday
speaking in front of a bunch of admirals and generals
who were for him, and he said, you know,
you think these people want her to be the boss?
Want her to be the boss?
And like all his white men fans, you know,
some of whom have had a woman boss and didn't like it,
that really, boy, they're going to run out to the voting.
Even talking about her voice or her outfit.
Right.
Her voice, how about his voice?
That small, when he goes soft, it's a disaster, okay?
What to take a pie and shut up right in his face, do you?
Oh, he's so disgusting.
And can you imagine if a 69-year-old woman
three times married, had five children from three different spouses,
had talked about groping a male's genitals,
had, can you imagine
a woman... Is she around?
See?
See, this is what we met.
I don't even care if she's a four or a five.
You can't even...
And it says so much about the sexes
that you can't even think of a woman like that.
If you wanted to make the joke,
who would you say?
You never knew Lucy.
So true.
Did you?
You didn't know.
No.
No.
Why hasn't the media covered the woman suing Trump for accusations from a 13-year-old that
she was raped by Donald Trump?
Okay.
And she's here tonight, but I'm feeling a lot better about it.
No.
Because of the same editorial standards that you demand, because they don't know who she is.
Except he has no editorial standards.
It's interesting.
For people who don't know this, by the way, let me just explain.
There is a woman who says, in the 90s.
She was at parties with Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted child predator, right?
Bill Clinton was on his plane.
He was a billionaire.
Okay, doesn't mean he was doing anything,
but Prince Andrew was on the plane.
Lots of it.
That's been in the news a lot.
Wait, let me just explain it for people who don't know the story,
Jeffrey Epstein.
Trump is on record saying, I love Jeffrey Epstein.
Great guy, hang around with him.
He loves beautiful women like I do.
and he likes him young,
you know, this is on record.
So, okay, this is from the 90s,
the statute of limitation.
The woman won't come forward.
She has canceled several press coverage.
She thinks she's going to come forward,
and then she doesn't.
She's filed a suit.
She's filed a suit, but she's just a Jane Doe.
There's no person there.
So the press can't.
So I'm not saying it's true.
It's an old story.
But it is interesting that, I mean,
we know he is a sexual predator of a type,
and he admits that he likes
young girls and you know you can like
young girls over the age and
of legal age and that's fine
but this woman was underage at the time
and I don't know
you hear this story and you don't go that's impossible
it's not like she's saying Mitt Romney raped her
this wasn't a question about Donald Trump
it was a question about the media I don't take any view
on her story it could well be true
I think there are many of these stories
that have come forward and they have looked like
they're true the question is why don't
responsible media organizations
act on a story when they don't know who
brought it forward, when they have no way of verifying it,
and that is responsible behavior.
And that's the kind of thing we need to defend and affirm
and not to criticize.
And there should be responsible behavior on the part of the candidates themselves,
and that's the problem.
And he has none of that.
He's got nothing.
If this was the other way, he'd be out there on the hustling,
just saying it as if it was...
He'll say anything.
He'll say anything.
People are saying this.
And then pretty soon he drops the people are saying.
He just says this happens.
But what kills me is that these respectable
news organizations have things like fact checkers, which are objective entities that check statements
on the part of candidates. And they've checked Hillary Clinton's statements and they've checked his
statements. Seventy percent of the statements that he utters are lies. Yes. 70 percent. And yet,
and yet, again, an indictment of the media, more people think she more untrustworthy. Well, because he keeps
calling her that, right? I know. She is as... And it's back to the surrogate. You have two saying one view and two
the other and Kelly Ann Conway is a false
equivalency. Hi Anderson.
You know,
you know, I do, that drives me and say,
I mean, you just, so
everything's equal. You walk away from
that, even if you're, you say, well, then I guess
two sides. And it's not two sides.
Different organizations have behaved in different ways.
Maybe the term the media isn't helpful.
Because how do you know that Donald Trump
statements are untrue? Who is doing the work
of finding out that they're not true?
Well, it is... It's easy to find
out, Dave. The fact checkers. No. Not fact
checkers. He says things like Hillary Clinton
wants to repeal the Second Amendment.
And there's no Hillary Clinton statement
ever saying anything like that.
That's hold a lie.
How do you know about his taxes?
People did the hard work
to find it out. If the public doesn't believe
them, as you said in your interview with the president,
that's on them. Now, there are cable news organizations
and here I'll agree with you that have
not behaved well.
And the demand
to say, you know,
we want to turn every
discussion into a Punch and Judy show.
And if Punch turns out to
Charles Manson, then we're going to find some pro-Charles Manson punches to defend him.
Now that is something that I think after the season is over, some cable networks are going
to have to rethink. Why did they feel the need to have...
Absolutely correct. People who had no conservative credentials. But if your ideas, we want to
have a balance between a Republican and a Democrat, the whole point was the organized Republican
Party largely rejected him. So you went out and invented all of these Republicans, of whom
no one had ever heard 15 minutes before, or to the extent they were heard of that were guarded
as lunatics or Dumboes.
And there they are because no one else would do the job,
the cable, fill the part that the cable network wanted to assign.
That's on that network.
But when you go on this, when you say,
why is the public not believing what newspapers have gone
to terribly underpaid people?
David Ferenhold at the Washington Post,
who were like line by line, when he couldn't get the records
on Trump's charities, would call the charities,
we'd think of every charity he could think of
that Donald Trump might have ever given to.
I think he ended up calling more than 400 charities.
That was one person who I think has no research assistance.
And he probably doesn't make as much as Donald Trump's makeup artist.
And he did that work.
And when you attack the media, you're attacking him, and that's not right.
And here's a naive thought, and I don't understand.
That's the main point, Dave, that the media should be defended because we're attacking them.
Yes, there are good people in the media.
You're right.
Is it possible?
TV media is different than print media.
You're right.
Print media, the few institutions that we still have that do the job,
three cheers for them.
Unfortunately, no one fucking reads them anymore.
They watch television, or they get it on their phone,
or they don't know anything.
They just hear it from people.
Like I said, if a man can say
that a person is going to let in 650 million people in a week
and America just goes, huh.
I'm not here to defend my industry in particular.
I'm here to defend all the institutions that make American democracy possible.
Can I ask one question?
One question.
I'm under so much pressure.
Art and short, last line.
No, I'm just saying this.
In my fantasy, after World War I, we had the League of Nations.
After World War II, we got the United Nations.
This has been like a world war, what we have gone through this election.
Can all the networks not go on a retreat and make
an agreement of honesty
to present information
to the public that are dying to know the truth.
Because it would cost them money.
Because it's a race to the bottom to get eyeballs.
What if there was a fine for every reported lie?
Well, that's not going to happen.
It's in their interest
to make it close.
I mean, Hillary has talked about so many issues
and they ignore it. They talk about
emails. They talk about emails.
The emails are important. The emails are important.
Okay, Dave. Thank you. Good night.
Thank you very much, everybody.
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