Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #414 (Originally aired 2/10/17)

Episode Date: February 11, 2017

Overtime Episode #414 (Originally aired 2/10/17) - Bill and his roundtable guests Sen. Al Franken, Jim Jefferies, Piers Morgan, Karine Jean-Pierre, and John Waters answer fan questions from the latest show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Moore. Hey, here we are. John Waters, do you think the TV and film are responsible for pushing the envelope when it comes to social issues like gay marriage and now transgender rights? I don't know. The movies today are like,

I don't know, you go to the movie theater now and you have those horrible insulting pre-shows where they say, if a director says action, does that mean the film starts or stops? And you have to sit there for an hour and be insulted. By the time the real movie, and then the trailers come on, that reveal the entire plot. So you don't have to see the movie. By the time the movie comes on, you want to run out of the theater.

So I don't know if they have that power anymore. I think TV does more than movies. I think, unfortunately, it does. The independent world I know is over. You know, I think it's easier to get your, what you're trying to, your product on TV, and more people see it, and you make more money, certainly than it is to have a little independent film, even though I still do go to the movies. And we have a lot more diversity now, right, with TV.

the awards ceremonies this year? The Oscars is supposed to be a lot more diverse, the most diverse that we've ever seen in a while. And so there's been some great movies, hidden figures, fences, gosh, I can't even think of all of them. L. Did you see El? Isabel

the bear is so great. No, I did not see that. Is some of that just liberals feeling guilty from last year and going, oh, I actually was thinking the same thing. We got to vote for the black people. But no, these movies are actually good, though. Oh, yes. They're great movies. But, but, but, but.

But award shows are never about justice. No, no. Hey, we've seen that for the last... Oh, this year, can you imagine what they're going to be like? The Oscars? Like, there's going to be so many speeches. Oh, God, please. It's going on to 1 a.m. on 30. The actors, for God's sake. Right, I couldn't agree more.

And also, like, La La La Land, really? Terrible film. I did not watch it. Well, it's not terrible. It was unwatchable. Who watched La La La Land to the end? I watched it. It's not terrible.

The moment they were flying through the air, I was out of there. No, bang. You have no sense of magic. Just so narcissistic. You know, another movie about movies. About us. You know? It was Hollywood making love to itself, wasn't it?

It was, it was. Yeah. But didn't Birdman win a couple of years ago? Yeah, wasn't that? Didn't watch that either. He directed it, right? Yeah, I didn't like Birdman. Is it the same director?

Oh, I like Birdman, but I'm in the industry. No, I hear you. I hear you. You're saying more diversity. Yeah. It's like, why do we get the same, the same thing over and over again?

Okay. Twitter announced new guidelines this week to combat bullying on their site. Is there any way they might have to censor the president? Well, isn't that his... White stumped the panel. But isn't that his white's pet project? No bullying?

No bullying? Cyberbullying, yeah. Not even living there. Can you imagine if Michelle Obama didn't live in the White House, how bad shit they would have went at taxpayers' money. I thought, I've been thinking, if President Obama said, like, just one-tenth of what Donald Trump is saying, the Republicans would be apoplectic. They would be screaming from the mountains. Or if he had children with three different wives.

Exactly. Or pushing Michelle Obama's, you know, clothing line. Or tweeting during a national intelligence. If there was a black guy that said, grab you by the pussy. No way on it. The first lady, imagine if Jackie had a sunglasses line or like Medi Ford had mere beer.

Yes. I mean, that was another gross story this week. I know you can't talk about it because it's your paper, the Daily Mail, so we won't. But Melani is suing because the Daily Mail, and they didn't even call her this. They were just quoting somebody else. And I think they said it wasn't true,

saying somebody said she was out. I think the one guy did say it was true. I don't blame her for suing for that in a way. Okay, but not the, I mean, the blogger who first said it. But what she said was that it's, it's causing me a great opportunity to cash in, basically. I know, basically, to break it in. I mean, the Trump family is just so naked about we're using this to make money. Yeah, they're hair-hoppers.

It's crazy. Absolutely. Okay. Well, statements from athletes like Steph Curry, who this week took issue with the CEO of Underarmor's support for Trump, affect how the sporting world engages with politics. I don't know this story. Why don't they just play football

and why don't the actors just act and why don't they all just keep out of politics? That's a silly argument. No, I'm done with him. No, because why don't you just do things with a newspaper and don't talk about politics? Why is me as a comedian? Sorry, you want a newspaper

to stop talking about politics? But why should anyone, why should a plumber not be able able to talk about politics? No, they should all be able to talk about politics? Who wants to watch the Oscars and watch a procession of lovey actors wandering up and ranting about Donald Trump? But you don't have to watch you. Thank your mom and dad. Thank your agent.

Say you love the movie industry. Sit the fuck down. Seriously. Yeah, I'm kind of... Am I wrong? No, no, I don't think you're wrong about that. And I don't think it helps either. I think it makes Trump voters hate.

Well, they hate it. Do you think any Trump voters saw a Meryl Street movie? No. Ever. Well Maybe so much one I think they saw the River Wild Routed for Kevin Bacon

That's what I'm Being so uptight about shopping At Nordstrom You know it's not like A lot of Trump supporters Shop there It's like them worrying if I go to Jiffy Loob It doesn't happen a lot

Yeah John You go to Jiffy Loob No I don't I don't even know how to pull in And you're one of the few guys that doesn't have to pull out either So that's pretty good

I knew that was coming I safely pull into Jiffie Loo. This is Robinson, this is getting ready. John, do you think Americans are less easily shocked by crude movies and television than they used to be? I think now Hollywood makes $100 million gross out movies that aren't funny. I think now it's over.

You know, if you're trying too hard, it doesn't work. And they do. Right, they do. And too much... That's why I went reverse. I reshot pink flamingos for children for an art show I did called Kitty Flamingos. And I took all the dirty parts out, so the parents watch and think, oh, no, that kid's not going to talk about fucking a chicken, are they?

But they don't. They don't. So the kids are innocent, but the parents are more perverse watching it. So it worked, actually, in reverse. It's better to learn about it in film and not the schoolyard, really, isn't it? Yeah, I don't mind fucking a chicken. Well, the actor ate it later, so it was politically correct. It wasn't a snuff movie.

That's how Taco Bell's got those new shelves. Corrine, do you think that grassroots anti-Trump movements are unified enough to defeat him. Yes. I think that this week, or the last couple of weeks, we've seen some great gains. We won the court, the court ruling yesterday. Let's not forget very early on, very early on

before even Trump got into the administration, there was the ethics office that the Republicans are trying to gut. And what happened, people started calling their congressional members, and it stopped. So I think there are a list of things that you see. Vice President Pence voting for the first

time to actually break a to get the education secretary in. Unheard of. And I think there are things that are happening that are faster pace. You mean having to break the tie? Yeah. Having to break the tie.

There are things that are happening in faster pace than even the Tea Party. And also, to me, the most encouraging thing is Republicans. The judge who struck down the Muslim ban was a Bush appointee. And the judge, 3-0 on the appellate court. No, that's right.

Even the Republicans. Even the Republicans. Across the country. Sanity. Across the country. Across the country. It's been Bush and also Democratic judges. Thank you very much, everybody.

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