Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime - Episode #418: Russia Investigation, Dodd-Frank, 2020 Candidates, SCOTUS
Episode Date: March 18, 2017Bill and his guests - Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, Andrew Sullivan, and Fmr. Rep Barney Frank - answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 3/17/17) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy i...nformation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to an HBO
podcast from the HBO late-night series,
Real Time with Bill Maugh.
You love that.
Nice to meet a White House
not controlled by the Russians.
Do you think the Senate
investigation of Russian hacking
of the election, yeah, you're on the committee.
You're the judiciary committee?
I'm the ranking member along with
Chairman Lindsey Graham.
Okay, so do you think that investigation
you're starting it now?
We've started it.
Will yield actionable results?
I would like to add a question to that.
Are the Republicans helping at all?
They are.
Lindsay's being terrific.
Really?
Yep.
We had a really good first hearing.
And we still have some documents that we are waiting for
and some explanations from the FBI.
And he's indicated that if we don't get what we want,
he's prepared to go the subpoena route.
And I think we'll have support from our full committee level,
Chairman Grassley and ranking member of Feinstein.
so we're on our way.
We've got the next hearing
is going to be on...
So the best Republicans
are Lindsay and McCain, right?
And they're always...
Well, they're friends of mine
and I think they're terrific.
And they're certainly friends of each other.
They are.
Yeah.
No, they are.
They are. I mean, they do everything in lockstep.
I mean, you cannot separate them.
If I'm not mistaken,
John has called Lindsay
his idiot bastard son.
But he obviously means it
in the nicest possible way.
Yeah, they're true friends.
That's a great Senate friendship.
That's an S&M thing, Senator.
I don't think so.
I want to get into that.
No, no, no, no.
Don't even go.
No, no, no.
Don't get into what those two call each other.
Bernie, do you think Trump will be successful in dismantling Dodd Frank?
No, they've already given up on much of that.
Again, I think he's going to be much less successful across the board.
And one of the things, Joan just indicated, the Republican independence from him.
They were intimidated by, I agree, the solidarity for him in the Republican ranks,
but he's pushing them to where they can't go.
Chuck Grassley is no rebel, but he said he won't have a hearing to confirm the Deputy Attorney General,
who will be the only Attorney General will have as long as Sessions has to recuse himself.
And I think, no, he's going to, his two top appointees in this have just said they accept basically what we did with regard to derivatives.
If they do go after the Consumer Bureau.
I mean, I love Elizabeth Warren.
I think she's great.
But I don't know if she deserves the great favor they will do for her
by letting her become a national leader in defending the Consumer Bureau.
So I think they will make very good old headway there.
And they've already given up on some of the big parts of it.
Who is going to be the Democratic candidate in 2020?
We cannot fuck this up.
And we cannot.
We also can't.
live under the illusion that the electorate is going to go for somebody who isn't charismatic, okay, and a great salesman.
You can't, Hillary Clinton proved.
You can be completely competent.
You can't win an election with, I know I'm not that great, but this guy's not.
Bill, first of all, I want to be saying, you know, you have overdone this.
Oh, how terrible it was, and this great, mighty Trump.
It was the narrowest victory in American history.
And still a victory.
Yeah, but a very narrow one.
And since then, he has alienated a lot of people.
I don't know what world you guys live in
where you think he's so triumphant.
Even the Wall Street...
The world where he's president every day?
That totally is the world I live in.
No, but that's not...
No, you're living in a world in which he's not just the president,
but he's a politically successful and mighty president,
and it's the other way around.
He's losing popularity.
He's not getting anything done.
Of course, I wish he wasn't president.
I worked very hard to try and stop him.
But you've got to estimate where we are.
To answer your question, by the way,
it has never this far ahead of a presidential election
been able to predict
who the non-income candidate of either party would be.
I know.
I'm just, I'm looking around scouring the landscape,
and I see nothing.
I mean, I really would like...
And you would have seen Barack Obama at this point?
Yes, I would have seen Barack Obama at this point.
No, you wouldn't.
I'll tell you that.
I actually predicted it at this point.
At what year?
2007?
Really?
Yeah, but he won the year after, not three years before.
We're in 2005.
When he gave his speech...
Boy, boys, boy.
Barney.
He gave his speech, his famous speech in 2004.
We could see his...
him rising. There's no one. I know a guy. I know a guy.
Please. I think the people in this
state do, Gavin... We say that in Rhode Island, by the... Gavin Newsom.
We got a guy.
We got a guy named Gavin Newsom. This guy
should be president.
He can win. He's going to be governor in 2018.
And I know that's a short time just to be governed before you run. I don't give a
fuck. His slogan should be, hello, I must be going.
Nice to stop by, California. But I got a
other things to do.
I don't think that's going to win back
Ohio and Pennsylvania and the
key states that you need to get back.
And look, I'd love there to be a real candidate.
Then who? Who? I don't, I just don't
see it.
You guys...
Too early to tell. Let's get a Democratic speaker
in the House in 2018.
Yes. She's not a game.
That we can do now.
That's another thing here.
Who do we have? We have. Nancy Pelosi is still
there. I mean, the
it's not a popularity contest for her. It's
going to be races in the key districts that go one way or the other.
And we have the chance to win those, and any of them will help stop this madness.
I'm no vested interest. I just look at the Democratic Party, and I think it's pretty pathetic.
I think the way it stood up to Trump has been rather sad.
That is nonsense.
And I don't.
By the way, if you look at the votes in the Senate on confirmation on the cabinet,
you have the highest percentage of no votes of any set of cabinet nominees in history
because the Democrats have been so overwhelmingly,
in some cases unanimously against him.
They're frustrating him on health care.
This pessimism and this fear,
you're talking about, oh, liberal's cry.
You guys are cowering before a guy
who's a paper tiger.
Yeah, he got elected,
but he has been very ineffective
and generated an awful lot of...
And what about after he starts the war with North Korea?
How powerful will he be then?
Because once the war starts, you know,
presidents seem to be able to get whatever they want.
I don't believe he's going to start a war with...
I hope you not. By the way, George...
We'd have to be...
crazy to do that.
Well, he pushed on the war
when he locked, and it didn't work out very well
for the Republican Party. He got re-elected
handily. Right. And then
all you need is, all you need,
and he's almost asking for it. Just a second,
Barney. I don't want to get elected.
Let me finish.
Boys.
I was trying to get you
to be calm in the way you said before.
Senator White House, will you vote
to...
Will you...
Anything to stop that side, right? Will you vote to
confirm Neil Gorsuch?
I want to hear him out first.
Oh, that's not...
Wrong answer.
No, no, wait a minute.
They stole that pick.
Unless the guy's name is Merrick Garland.
I don't want to hear anything else.
No, the issue...
They can't.
They can't.
The issue that we need to address is what the Republicans do
when they get five justices on the Supreme Court.
And they go on a bender.
Well, that's one issue.
They do Shelby County.
They do Citizens United.
The other issue...
They do Heller, on and on and on.
That's what we need to focus on.
a pick. Obama had
a year. He was president
for almost a full year.
The Constitution is
not ambiguous about this.
The president gets to pick,
and they didn't let that happen.
It cannot stand. They're the ones who said
that 4-4 is okay. And by the way, there are a number
of very good decisions that are coming out
of the circuit courts.
Which will stand? Striking down Texas
and is bigoted and ridiculous things. If it stays
4-4, that gets upheld.
So I hope that nobody votes to confirm
Right. I think we can hold at 60.
Yeah. And if they try to pull the nuclear option, I think they're going to have a real problem on their hands.
Let them deal with that on their own.
But you started that, right?
Yeah, fortunately.
And they said...
I'm sorry, but Harry Reid already nuked the filibuster in the last...
For a whole... not the Supreme Court.
Precisely.
And there's a reason for that.
They said no Supreme Court.
By the way, it was very important.
We agree.
We're on weak grounds when you've already conceded...
But just to show...
ceded this.
Just to show what a different world
were living in.
You want to give them every single argument.
I'm stuck by that.
Harry Reid did a great thing
by breaking the filibuster
because you had a very right-wing
court, for instance, in Washington, D.C.,
overturning all kinds of regulations.
One of the best things Harry did was to break that
filibuster, so we got a fair balance on
the court. Have you ever criticized
the Democratic Party on the Democratic
Party on the Democrat? Yeah. I just said
earlier, if you were listening, that
Obama screwed up with the rollout.
I said that the big problem in the health
is. You're wrong on that, actually. The
rollout, I mean, technically speaking, that was an
incredibly hard thing. You don't want to change the subject.
You asked if I ever criticized them
and I gave, I criticized them.
Guys, where was this hatred when we were on TV?
Why save it for the end?
Okay, I just
think it's interesting that when we hear the term
nuclear option, it's always been something we
talked about and we were talking about the Senate
and stuff like that. And now when I hear
the term nuclear option, I think of what happened
this week. Yes, when Rex Tillerson
said, the first strike option
is on the table with North Korea.
That's a little bit of a different thing.
Happy St. Patrick's, everybody.
I hope you have a great weekend.
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