Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #590: Brooke Jenkins, John Avlon, Katrina Vanden Heuvel

Episode Date: February 19, 2022

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 2/18/22) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices....com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maugh. Okay, all right. Here we are in overtime. We have to make us a little brief. Got to get to Las Vegas tonight. John, how do you think today's mainstream media would treat Abraham Lincoln if he was our current president? Well, I mean, it's a great question. Look, his media hated him.
Starting point is 00:00:25 He was disrespected widely. I don't think he probably would have been elected right now. He told a lot of jokes that were deeply in a lot of jokes that were deeply in a lot of appropriate people got pissed off at him. But that was a tool, right? He spoke in parables. He was trying to reach people where they were. You know, Lincoln was a huge
Starting point is 00:00:40 consumer of media. He was obsessed with newspapers, but he got a lot of grief, and we forget that. We forget how many people hated Lincoln at the time. He did the difficult things, and we could still learn a hell of a lot of them. How tall was he? Six-four. In that year, that must have been
Starting point is 00:00:56 almost like being a seven-footer. Yeah, right? And he wore a stovepipe. highlight it, too. He hung a lantern on it. Right. Yeah. Well, that probably would have got him elected, just that. Don't they always go for the tall guy? You know what's weird? I kept finding in my book. People kept on commenting when they met Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:01:13 They kept saying, he's the ugliest man I ever met. They kept saying it. It's terrible. But then when he started speaking and telling stories and connecting with people emotionally, something beautiful happened. Okay. Wow. Uh... That's all.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Uh... How has the successful school board recall bolstered the, I might, Boudine, right? Is that how you pronounce that name? Yes. Chisa. Chesa. Chesa, Chesa Boudine. Now, that's who we're talking about. That's the DA in San Francisco. How is the, oh, okay. So how is the board recall affected that? Is I guess the question. I don't know what this question is.
Starting point is 00:01:51 In my view, it's given, it's, you know, we just passed a school board recall. We recalled three members of the Board of Education in San Francisco. And I I think it's shown the prevailing of common sense and core values over radicalism. They were more worried about renaming schools than making sure that the children returned back to in-person learning. And so I think parents and residents of San Francisco have said, look, these radical extreme ideas are not going to work for us anymore. What do you think about the masks with the kids? I mean, is it not time to chuck that? having a five-year-old in school right now,
Starting point is 00:02:32 I would like to see them go. Yeah. That's interesting. But they don't need them. Kids, I mean, kids are the least vulnerable. And, I mean, to make these little children into Howie Mandel's is what you're doing. No, it's true. You're creating a generation of Howie Mandel's, of little germ paranoid munchkins.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's just, it's, it is, it is. It's, it's, it is. It's so ridiculous. It's been, like, it's a huge chunk of their lives. I mean, we've got young kids. Especially when they are young. I mean, that's the first thing they remember,
Starting point is 00:03:06 and it's going to get imprinted on them. And it's just, I mean, kids are gross to begin with. You've got to let them be gross. Why, right? And they're not, and germs are not, they need also to get germs in their body. Of course, there are ones you can't get in your, you know, what?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, I mean, look, it's true. What are the reason? The whole vaccine is how you get healthy. Is, you live in the, world with the... Yeah. You can't live in the world by getting rid of all germs or avoiding them.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Of course not. It's insane. But it's also the reason we've been taking... The vaccine debates are so incredibly dumb because we've been doing mandatory vaccines for public school kids forever, for polio. This is not any difference. It's just what we need to deal with. Well, it could be different if they are less vulnerable to it.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They're killed are vulnerable to polio. They're not that vulnerable to this one. That's been true from the beginning. Of course, anybody can get anything at any time. that's possible, but we always have to go by the numbers. Okay. Moving on, because I've got to leave. Oh, Katrina, you mentioned on Twitter that you were interned for PJ O'Rourke.
Starting point is 00:04:07 P.J.R.R.C., one of my face died this week. So, um... I've got frequent guest on this show. P.J.R.R.R. What's one of your most favorite memories? I hope you have great memories. I do have great memories. No, I was me too 10 times.
Starting point is 00:04:23 No, no. I do. Well, no. No. No. But no, no. I mean, I was an intern at National Lampoon. And they were nice.
Starting point is 00:04:31 He was great. And we did the high school year book together, and then we did a mock. You'll like this. We did a mock issue of High Times, which is buried somewhere. I want to find that. But he took a very important role.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He took a very important role. Like higher times. He was great. He was great. He was great. PJ O.R.F. I mean, I've said this many times publicly on this show and anywhere else to anybody who will listen.
Starting point is 00:04:52 PJ does not get the credit he deserves for establishing an entire brand of humor. It was more than just what he did. When he edited that National Lampoon, the National Ampoon became Saturday Night Live. It did. Okay?
Starting point is 00:05:06 There's a whole way of doing comedy that really sprung from guys like PJ O'Rourke and prominently PJ O'Rourke. He was one of my face. Anyway, thank you, folks. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10 or watch them anytime on HBO on demand.
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