Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #639: Rep. Dean Phillips, Fareed Zakaria, Ian Bremmer.

Episode Date: November 4, 2023

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 11/03/23) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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from the HBO late-month series Real Time with Bill Maher. ...in'clock. ...in' 2024 Democratic presidential candidate, Dean Phillips, host to Fareed Zakaria, GPS on CNN, Fareed Zakaria, and President of Eurasia Group in GZERA Media, Ian Bremmer. Here are the questions.

I'm rushing as I've got to get to Vegas. This is for you, Congressman. Who would you choose to be your running mate? Oh, good question. I didn't ask you that. Oh, I have to choose a different person now? Well, your running mate. My running mate. Yeah.

It's way too early for that. I will surprise you. I promise you that. I promise you that. I will surprise you. I will absolutely surprise you with a running mate. Good surprise or bad? Good surprise.

It almost sounded like a threat. I promise you. Really? I will surprise you. It's not Caratop. I love them, but I don't. Now, Karatop had too high a demands. All right.

I mean, I can't give away this stuff. So really, I know you want it. All right. Did Democrats make a strategic error by not saving Kevin McCarthy now that we're stuck with a much more extreme speaker of the House? That's an interesting question. They could have, right? There's a danger of a really, I mean, you were alluding to this, of a real political constitutional crisis. Because Trump is going to be the nominee.

So one of two things are going to happen in 2024. He's either going to win that has its own problem. or he's going to claim he won. Those are the only two options. Absolutely. I've said it for seven years. And he's going to show up. Inorguration Day, January 2025, he will show up.

But this time, say the Pennsylvania state legislature, where the laws I think have been changed, where they can send an alternate slate of electors, and who do they send them to? The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who is going to be very willing to hear

all the stuff that at least Kevin McCarthy in the crunch. Right. Let me tell you guys, it's important everybody know this. We extended a number of overtures to Speaker McCarthy, a number of other Republicans, saying we want to work together. Just make some modest concessions. First of all, make the House

work. That was our first demand. Not one of them would speak to us because they knew if they actually attracted a single Democratic vote, let alone 10, 15, 20, that they would be eviscerated by their brothers and sisters on their side. That is the culture of Congress. That is absolutely destroying the country.

That's the culture of the house. The culture of the house. Yes, not the sentence. No, it's not the... That is true, not the sentence. But that is the truth. I heard you say, before I'm when we were talking about, you know, you're going to stop this and we've got to work together. Everybody says that.

What's the plan? What's the plan to do that? You just said they wouldn't even fucking talk to you. What's the plan? Oh, no. No, no. Well, it begins with the surprise running me. Yes.

It begins... I mean it. Cheney? I was the most bipartisan member of Congress last year, the second most this year. I really do. I love my brothers and sisters on both side. There are some wonderful Republicans who I think have a chance to rise, I think want to work together. This wasn't the time to do it.

But wish to do so. And there are some outstanding. But again, how do you liberate them from this problem you're talking about? I'll tell you why. That's why I'm running for president to win. I believe we can. I believe it's time for a new generation. Does anybody agree, by the way?

And the last time in American history that I think a president really accomplished the notion of a team of rivals was Abe Lincoln. And I do think it's time. I really do believe it's time for a Democratic president to ensure that there are conservative voices in the White House

within the cabinet, having his or her ear, and vice versa. It should go the other way as well. I'll do. And I think, so that's why running for president, you can actually break this grid lot by actually engaging the surprise is.

Yeah. No, no, no, but you're hinting that. You would have a team of rival, somebody else. Oh, absolutely. In the White House. Your vice president would be. No, I'm not saying I am. I'm saying I would not rule that out.

You're saying you might. I'm saying you might. Just say it. Just say it. It's Ramoswami. That I think I could promise you. It ain't. But somebody, like, all right, so we won't say it's your VP.

but who are some of the more reasonable Republicans who, if that was the direction you were going into, you would... Well, first of all, I think we lost two of our great young conservatives in Anthony Gonzalez, Pete Meyer. They had the audacity. They had the audacity to vote to impeach Trump, ten of them, nine of them got thrown out of the house, essentially.

I will tell you that Dusty Johnson, a very principled good person... Dusty Johnson. Who's that? See? You don't know. I don't know. I thought he was some old Western actor.

Dusty... Johnson. Remember Dusty Johnson? No, nobody knows. Nobody knows. Okay. Nobody will be on the show next to him. Pull up's Johnson. If I out my friends, they're going to lose their races. I don't want to do it.

Very sincerely, the problem is they're the workhorses, not the showhorses. You don't know the race. You know Lauren Bowbert and Marjorie Taylor Green and Jim Jordan because they're destructive. How about? I'm tired of it. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney. He's a gentleman.

He's a gentleman. And he's principal. And he already ran. He's a known quantity. I mean, yes, a lot of people hate him. But, like, no, but, like, he stood. He's one of those, what I call as good as it gets Republicans. Liz Cheney.

I sat with Liz Cheney on January 6th. They hate, but they hate the principal right now, and it's a shame. Liz Cheney had principles. She got thrown out of the house. As with her on January 6th, when she looked at the television screen, Donald Trump on it, she said, he's responsible. We're going to hold him to account. The whole room erupted, Democrats and Republicans.

A year later, look who was. left. So, okay, last question. RFK is leading among, I read, young people and independence, and in a three-way race, he gets now, like, higher than a higher than. I mean, that's pretty amazing. Yeah, but he takes more from Trump. Takes more from Trump. You know, I mean, he's sort of dominating the conspiracy theory lane, which is a lane now in U.S. politics. And if he continues to run, as opposed to, like, the no-labels, Joe Manchin, fever dream, which I think was never going to happen, then it actually gives Biden more of a shot. And at the end of the day, if good Dean Phillips doesn't somehow make it to take Biden out, then you're going to need to have Biden be able to do it,

and a third-party candidate may actually help on that front. I mean, the fundamental problem, all of these scenarios are terrifying is we don't actually have a real election, right? I mean, Biden will win probably by 9 million votes. But the most powerful man... Biden will? Right. Against popular votes. It doesn't mean anything. He won by 7 and a half last Oh, I'm glad you're so sanguine about that. I am not. But what I'm not saying about is... He could totally lose.

No, but even if he... If I didn't think he was going to lose, I wouldn't be all in for Dean Phillips. Dean Phillips, I've said it for years. For God's sake. And if not him, Nancy Johnson. No, but the point is it's going to be decided in four states, right? I mean, the electoral college is what matters. Yes.

Biden will win the popular vote. The problem is four states, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin. Doesn't matter. And you're probably talking about 100. He's down in each of the battleground states right now. That's one reason I'm doing this. We have to do this. Okay.

I've got to go to Vegas. Thank you very much. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10 or watch him anytime on HBO on demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com. sur-gillet, Prices while

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