Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #642: David Mamet, Dave Rubin, James Carville

Episode Date: December 2, 2023

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 12/01/23) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're here with Democratic Strategies and host of the Politics War Room podcast James Carville and host of the Rubin Report on YouTube and Rumble Dave Rubin. Okay, here are the questions. For Dave, what did you think of Elon Musk's trip to Israel? Do you think he no longer harbors anti-Semitic and conspiratorial beliefs? he never had anti-Semitic or conspiratorial beliefs in the first place, but Elon Musk is not an anti-Semite.

There are plenty of anti-Semites out there. You called a whole bunch of them out during the show. I mean, Elon Musk going to Israel was absolutely great. I think too many people now don't believe anything they see, but they do believe Elon Musk, so him going there and saying, I saw the 47 minutes of footage. He's wearing dog tags from one of the families. Okay, well.

Lost their kids. There's a lot of anti-Semites out there, but Elon Musk is not one of them. That may be true. I mean, look, he's a hard guy to follow all the time. I've tried. And the one, this thing did test my patience with him, because he may not be an anti-Semite, but when someone tweets what they tweeted

and he tweets, you have spoken the actual truth, it looks really anti-Semitic. So, I mean, come on. I mean, I don't know how even the weeds you want to get on the comment, but the comment was really, well, we do. What is the comment? The comment that he was responding to was about that there are left-wing thought of as Jewish organizations like the ADL that are aiming their fire the wrong way all the time.

So they're attacking him, right, as opposed to attacking the people that they, that are actually anti-Semites. All right. My understanding of it was that he was supporting the idea that what we heard when you were. You were exactly right. It was the greatest act of Jew washing I've ever seen. I mean something like that. Yeah, I've never heard that term. Well, I mean, it's what you do when you go, if I say anything.

I mean, come on. Look, I have no idea. The last thing I want to do is pick a fight with a guy worth a trillion dollars. But that dude is weird, man. I'm going to tell you, that's something about. James, you famously said it's the economy stupid, but voters seem to be responding to positive economic news. voters don't seem to be responding

to positive economic news in the polls. How do you explain this? Well, you know, you've got 60% of the Republicans that believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Oh, that's not a good answer. I'm just saying the polls, right, you deal with 5.6% growth.

All right, by any record, now, people don't feel it. And look, I think we should have made a change. You and I agree on that. And I don't know how much of it is is that they can't see beyond the president. I mean, a cost of living has hurt people. But you just can't look at this economy and go out and say this is a bad economy.

That's impossible. But that's not really what you want to tell the voters. I thought I'm not running for office, Bill. I'm answering a question on a television show. If I wouldn't answer the same. Okay, but the reason why you're on a television show is because you're a known strategist So what we're asking for your strategy, and your strategy seems to be to tell the voters

you don't know what you're talking about, and I don't think that's a good way to get elected, and I'm not a strategy. I would not say that, but you can't. You just said it to me. He's not running for office. I mean, look at the sweatshers.

Here's what I think it is. The things that, like you can cite the statistics, and yes, inflation is going down, it's going in the right direction, but the things people buy every day in this country. Bullets, eggs. Gas. Gas is down. Not here.

I'm just telling you, the price of gas, we produce more, we pump more oil than we ever have in history. Anyway, we pump more oil in Saudi Arabia. Just so you know that. But if you ask people, do you think

that the Democrats and Biden is, oh yeah, of course it is, 100%. I can't, the fact that people believe something doesn't make it a fact. There's a big story in the Wall Street Journal today. The crime rate has dropped significantly. I argue with someone, but the crimes put 100,000, I think, was 738, and you're down to 362 or something like that. You got out of a city to act like them a factual clutch because somebody believes something that's not true.

I don't buy that. Okay. Well, then we'll move on. Okay. Mike... So, Mike Johnson, he's from your home state of Louisiana, the Speaker of the House. I read today, he wrote a forward in a book that describes to conspiracy theories and homophobic insults. I thought, Mike Johnson wrote the forward of the Bible?

Do you think Mike Johnson can hold his party together now that he has taken the mantle? First of all, I don't think he can hold his party together. Second of all, you're exactly right. Mike Johnson and what he believes is one of the greatest threats we have today to the United States. I promise you, I know these people. You're talking about Christian nationalism. Absolutely. This is a bigger threat.

al-Qaeda to this country. Let me tell you something. They have Speaker of the House. They've got at least two Supreme Court justices, maybe more. Don't kid yourself. And people in the press have no idea who this guy is, how he was formed, what the threat is, and this is a fundamental threat to the United States. It is a fundamental thing.

Don't believe in a Constitution. They'll tell you that. White Johnson himself says, what is democracy but two wolves and a lamb having lunch? That's what they really, really, really believe. And to say, oh, come on, man, that's just some crazy shit. No, no. They believe that, and they're coming, and they've been doing it forever.

They're funded. They're funded. They're relentless. And, you know, they probably won't win for a while, but they might. And if they do, the whole country blows a gas. You just have to look at that pain. I think it's a Kincaid painting that a lot of them like where Jesus is handing the Constitution

Thomas Jefferson. I mean, if you could look at that and go, that's the way it probably happened. I know it well. That wasn't a photo? That is, no. Is the rise of anti-immigration Dutch politician Gert Wilders?

I remember interviewing him for religiousists way back in 2007. A warning to the liberals in America that they need. to take our immigration crisis more seriously. So if you don't follow the story, Gert Wilders, he's been running forever in Holland. Of course, the New York Times calls him a far-rightist.

They call all these people. I mean, Maloney, in Italy is another one. Victor Orban is kind of a far-rightist in Hungary. But I think some of them are just, Brexit and England was part of this. People are feeling they are not welcome, almost in their own home because of the kind of immigration that these people are fighting against.

Most of these people are not far right by any way that we would think of far right in that day, like that they're racist. I actually met with Orban in Budapest, and I talked to him for a little while, and all he kept saying was, you know, I love Hungary, that's all. I love my people. I love my country. That's it. I don't know what accent that was, but that basically...

That's a dead-on impression of something. Can you do his walk? He kind of, there's a little bit of a waddle. But all of these guys, Gert Wilders, he wants Holland to be for the Dutch, right? Like, that's what he wants. When we see, that's racist. That's what they would tell you, right? No, no.

Wait, you meant that? Literally? No, no, no, I don't know what we're talking about. But I was just going to say, Dutch for the Dutch, I would amend that if it was me. Dutch values. No, Dutch values, of course. You don't have to be actually Dutch. You don't have to be white.

That's what I think is great about America. Of course. It's the idea. As long as you subscribe to. our ideas, which again, to your point and what I was saying at the end of the show, that we're not a Christian nation, that's not what is, is a country where we have the First Amendment, then everybody should be welcome. No, of course, it's not about skin color, but it is about culture.

So what happens is all of these people, whether they're in France or Belgium or any of the countries that you just mentioned, they're realizing, wow, we've got literally millions of people in our borders that are chanting for genocide and gas, the Jews, and the rest of it. And by the way, it doesn't stop with the Jews, right? I mean, they were at the Christmas tree in Times Square yesterday or two days ago. So people are realizing that, and they're looking for anybody, and for some reason they always come with crazy hair, that will fix some of this stuff. I kind of have trouble.

I think your question was, because the election in the Netherlands, is that somebody who won? Do you want a short, truthful answer a long? Yes. Yes. It does. Okay? It does. Because people, but understand this.

people like immigrants. What they don't like is disorder. And when you become the disorder party, whatever it is, you pay a price. Now, one of the reasons that we have in this problem, this is what 3.6% of unemployment does for you. You think we're the only people that know that? Or you think, in by way, somebody,

if you got a woman who lives in Honduras, and she walks with a 10-year-old and a 6-year-old to the Mexican board and wants to come in this country, come on in a lady. you're motivated person. We need you. Period. No, no.

You can't come. We have a border. We have a border. We have a country. You either have a country or you don't. Every border had refugees. Every border has asylum. Yeah, but you can't just let them walk in.

I'm sorry. That's what the issue is. I'm for somebody walks with two kids, 600 miles to come in this country. I got a job for you, lady. Come see me. Find me one roof in Florida that was born in the United States. I got a job, too.

I got a job, and that means getting out on time. Thank you, see you. Thank you, everybody. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10, or watch them anytime on HBO On Demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com.