Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #647: Killer Mike, Jessica Tarlov, Gov. Chris Sununu

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 2/2/24) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Mark. All right. He's an entrepreneur and musician and self-titled fellow Michael was recently released. Up for three Grammys Sunday. Killer Mike is with us, Mike Rinder. And he's the Republican Governor of New Hampshire, Governor Chris Sununu, and she's the host of the Five on Fox News, Jessica Tarlow. That's our panel that we just had. So would you like to comment on my...
Starting point is 00:00:30 editorial that I just did about how there's a lot of materialism in music these days and maybe it's not great for the kids. I think there's materialism in American society period. We're just, musicians and ours a lot of times, in terms of when art becomes commerce, it's just a reflection of where society
Starting point is 00:00:46 is when you were talking about, you know, it used to be a lot of bitches and holes and homophobie in there. Bitches, holes, and homosexuals buy music. And at a certain point, the people who make music was like, it's not cool to keep saying this shit because they got better buying power than just the guys who are mad at home.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And what you see now is the people on top of the charts of the Kendrick Lamar's, the Drake's, the J. Coles, because society, what is it, Huey said, it's not the vanguard that moves to people, it's not the leadership, is when the people are ready to move. So I think that, I think, when I have arguments with Anaya, my 26-year-old daughter,
Starting point is 00:01:23 I know that there's a change coming because of the way she views the world. So I think musicians and artists for commerce are going to adjust. But when it comes to the money, We have an infatuation with money in this country. You know, so much to the point we went and kidnapped a bunch of people 400 years ago made them work for free and said, boom, the greatest nature in the world.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So, you know, right. Happy black history, ma'am. Happy black history, ma'am. It's like a relationship fight. You never let it go. No, you can't, you can't, you know, I'll tell you this. Speaking of money, you want to let it go,
Starting point is 00:01:52 prepare reparations package for this, for black people in this country. For people, and I'll tell you this, The leader of the Fed said something. Didn't I buy dinner last time? Yeah, you did. And the restaurant was... That does not count. You did. You offered to marry my wife
Starting point is 00:02:10 if I died early, too. Absolutely. But I do think this country could benefit from a reparations package that included cash, that included reversal of redlining by helping black people be homeowners, understand credit, and understand Americans that
Starting point is 00:02:24 if the black community has more money, this country has more money. And we need to start see and I feel in a relationship. As long as we have the topic on the table, what do you think about that? Reparizes. Vivek Ramoswamy just texted me his Taylor Swift playlist. I haven't been paying it.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'll pass it on. Wait, you're dodging this question? I'll dodge it. In terms of what? Reparations? Sending out a check. Someone's got to pay? No, no, I'm not for reparations. I'm not for that at all.
Starting point is 00:02:51 At the end of the day, this country owes $34 trillion. And the government doesn't owe that money. You all owe that money. Don't be fooled. Money's got to come from somewhere. It's between collective guilt and individual. Well, I don't want you feel guilty. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Because I didn't do it. I think more black conservatives, but you benefited from it. You benefited from it and you still benefit from it. Yes, that's true, too. So my thing is just helped spread the benefits. Okay, but, you know, there are reparations that do go on in different ways. Yeah, absolutely. And I didn't say absolutely just give me a few million dollars and I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:03:22 No, I think that trade in higher-level education, I do think a cash payout. I think that there should be a mortgage forgiveness. I think that we should have an incentive to incentivize black wealth in this country. Robert Smith, black billionaire, had an interesting conversation where he wanted to tax corporations 2% of wealth. Imagine what 2% of multi-billion-dollar companies does for black society. What it does is it creates a place where it's not perfect, but Atlanta, black people have opportunity.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And if you talk to Governor Brian Kipp in Georgia, Georgia, we also have a Republican governor who have a relationship with. For the last 10 years, we've been number one in business. We've created over 60,000 jobs and have more jobs coming. I would challenge you to help put together a reparations package that made the rest of America look more like the opportunity. Well, he's from New Hampshire. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:04:11 But if I may, or no, they didn't want to get me a reparations discussion. It would cost you hundreds of dollars up there. And then you got the, well, again, is it, what about the Native Americans who are, you know, you got to go down the list. And when we're done with the reparations package this year, what about, You don't hear black people arguing against reparations for anyone. We've never argued against reservations. We've never argued against any payouts for people of America's wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We're simply saying while we're at the table, let's do something to aid the people that until 60 years ago lived in apartheid. 60 years is not very long. With Native Americans, we gave them the casino industry. What about, you know, Superman? Could black people have the marijuana industry? Well, something like that. Look at his fucking face.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Would you give us, give us marijuana. Multi-billion-dollar industry is still fresh, it's still growing. Why doesn't Killer Mike have a marijuana license of Georgia? I'm out of the business. Will you call Brian Kim for me in that? I'm still buying right now. I don't know what he's going to go.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Brian's a great friend. I mean, if you're going to buy marijuana, I was going to do it at the Woods, which is the great pot shop here in L.A., which I'm a part owner of with Woody Harrelson. Okay, what do you think of the news that Nessa says the moon is shrinking. Fucking Biden.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Right? Am I right? Thank you. Finally. Finally, someone's talking some sense. It was perfectly fine under Trump. I was excited that I didn't have to do the reparations question and then got the moon question, which could be more complicated. Doesn't that go in your headlines that shouldn't exist? It really should.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I mean, but apparently, I read this too in USA Today. Apparently, the moon, because the core is, cooling or something? It's our fault. I'm sorry, what does it matter? It doesn't. It doesn't. Okay. I know, but it's funny because you really could do a whole sketch about that, because we are so blame happy in this country. Somebody has to take. I think the moon's on Ozmpic, and that's the whole thing. What do you think about?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Conservatives in Texas are talking about Texas. Well, this happens like every two years. This is Texas seceding. They love to talk about it It started out as its own country, right? For while Texas was its own country. We just had a bill in New Hampshire. We get it almost every two years. Someone wants to...
Starting point is 00:06:35 But Nikki Haley, your girl, said she doesn't think that's illegal. Come on. She doesn't know why the Civil War happened and she doesn't get that secession is illegal? Yeah, look, I'm not advocating for anyone to see. I don't think Nikki's advocating for any of that. No, but she said she didn't think it was illegal, and it is illegal.
Starting point is 00:06:51 You can't secede from the Union. That's like number one. Or the United States. I think everybody understands that's what we need to be. And that's what we need to fight. But Nikki Haley needs a bit of a history lesson. Then the succession issue.
Starting point is 00:07:08 That's broader than the secession issue if we go back to the whole slavery. I know, I'm saying. She seems to have skipped grades. I don't know. Some of them. Look, you want to end this Trump conversation once and for all?
Starting point is 00:07:24 You all get behind Nikki Haley because that's how you do. You beat Trump in the ballot park. I mean, that's it. Look, politics is not a spectator sport people. You got to get involved. You got to vote. You got to participate. They could vote for Joe Biden, though.
Starting point is 00:07:36 But according to the polls, but according to the polls, they want. That is not true. Nikki Haley beats Biden by 10, 15 points. According to the polls, all right, all right, all right. Everybody stop yelling. But the moon is shrinking, Bill. The moon is shrinking. I'm shrinking.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Now, okay. Jessica, how damaging could a potential no-labels presidential ticket be for Joe Biden? So this is an official third party now, no labels? Who is this? A bunch of gifters. Joe Manchin. It says, what do you make a rumor is Joe Manchin will be their candidate? Oh, exciting.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I'll start by saying the no-labels folks are grifters, and everyone should know that they're just trying to... Grifters? Grifters. Right. Yes. You don't think they're sincere? I think they're sincere like 40 minutes a day and then I think the rest of it
Starting point is 00:08:32 is just an attempt to get people who feel disenfranchised like they're looking around and they're like they're two 80 year old guys I don't like either of them give me more money give me more money and they don't really care what the outcome is and they justify it by saying you know
Starting point is 00:08:50 well it's going to suck either way but apparently the top polling no labels ticket is Nikki Haley as president and Joe Manchin is VP. I happen to think, and Joe Manchin is not my favorite Democrat, though he voted with us all the time, and I'm thankful for having someone in West Virginia. I don't think he would do something like that because it would just destroy an entire legacy that he's had. But they do take more support from Trump than they do from Biden.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It's the same with, like, RFK Jr., if he were able to get on more than half a ballot or something like that. Okay. Elon Musk announced his company Neurrelink. Oh, this is a pretty big story. Successfully implanted the first microchip in a human's brain. Is this a good thing? Yes, I think it is because, I mean, this is, if you haven't read the story, the ability to actually do things just by thinking about it for people who don't have the use of their limbs.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And this is, you know, I can't stop liking Elon. He's a weird guy. He is. And he does sometimes make it hard to defend him. Absolutely. I get that. But this is the promise of a guy like this. I mean, who else is doing this?
Starting point is 00:10:06 I can't even imagine how this is done. Like, I couldn't tell you how electricity happens, but I probably could find out. It's a short Wikipedia. But, like, how do you get it? So, like, just by thinking about it, you change the channel? Don't.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But that's pretty amazing. And I think it's going to, you know, there is lots of people who are going to benefit from this. Totally. I'm sure it'll be used for evil at some point. But for now, it's wonderful to give people the chance. That's like all things are married. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You eventually use it for evil. Goes back to your money. Or sex. You got a, yeah. Sex. It's usually the first thing they'll find a way for a guy to jerk off. Like just say. A recent study found a growing political divide between men and women
Starting point is 00:11:00 with younger women skewing much more liberal than men. This is not new, but I think it's just more prevalent. I think the number I saw was 30 points. That is a huge. And that's the abortion issue, right? That's a lot of... As Republicans, we're losing young people, we're losing suburban moms, we're losing women, strictly on the abortion issue.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And that's just terrible for the party. I think it's abortion. It's guns. It's climate change. It's social justice. And Trump. And the pussy grabber who's like the... And now, or in 83 million.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I'm not with Trump. I don't know why you guys keep looking at me. I know. I know. I know. I know. But what's interesting, what you two have in common is that you both can't say, yeah, and of course, so I'm voting for Biden.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You both can't do that. I just find that interesting. He can't say, she can't say, you can't say, Biden can say, and most white people won't say, I'll sit down and talk about black people, about real black issues from a place where I know I'm going to leave the table on a couple. I'm just talking about. I'm talking about. We don't want to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But when you say me and him are the same, we're the same besides that we want to do. How have Biden or a trunk been good for my community? That's it. And I'm not saying that's saying. But you got to meet me at my table, not just going to have lunch with a black kid and think everything's okay.
Starting point is 00:12:13 At least you're engaging with the question now. Yeah. Right. I get that. I totally get that. Have neighborhoods really changed? I mean, I forget who I was. The last three years, worse. I mean, it's tougher.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Neighborhoods and what's going on with crime, with public safety, with all of this, it's just getting worse and worse and worse. And both parties are to blame. Let's not make any... Well, that's the thing. I mean, if you live in a neighborhood and you see administrations change and nothing else changes, that... I totally get that.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Why you would go, what's the difference which white guy is president? It doesn't make any difference. And a lot of people weren't crazy about Obama. Didn't think he was the rat. change, they projected that on him. He would never say he would. I think Americans are comfortably, they're comfortably uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I think that this country could be radically better if we said we're going to do something radical and hold politicians' feet to the fire on politics. And we're not, we're just simply not doing it. And at some point, we're going to have to get off TV arguing for entertainment, and we're going to have to retreat to our living rooms, our after church, synagogues, or And we're going to have to have real discussions where we disagree and agree and we find out what are the ten things that are best on a hyper local level
Starting point is 00:13:30 What could be realer than this discussion? If I could let me tell you people don't be telling people to get off TV No, I want people to watch TV, but I want people to get with people who they don't look like Not TV, this TV, I like your show I don't watch most of you guys show Oh You don't know this one Shut up, New Hampshire rappers aren't rapping about it yet But yeah but I do want to say
Starting point is 00:13:53 that the discussions that are had here take to your living rooms and give family members you hadn't talked to because they voted for the other guy and have the discussion. Yes, I couldn't agree more. And on a hyper-local level, what's more important to Americans should be
Starting point is 00:14:07 who's my city council person, who's my mayor, and who's my governor? School board. And school board. If you do that, I guarantee you you'll start to create local change that then from the top down, they'll say we need to emulate that. And I'll give you a perfect example is a democratic
Starting point is 00:14:22 Judge named Asha Jackson, Chief Judge Asha Jackson in Georgia, creates the pinnacle program that gives people an opportunity not to fall prey to recidivism and go back to jail. You get one year to clean your shit up, then you graduate, you're gone, you don't have to go to prison. Ms. Ali is a woman out of Fulton County Juvenile Court that was appointed by a Republican governor to emulate that same thing statewide.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So two Democratic black women do something on a local level that on a state level, the white Republican governor recognizes and then empowers to do the same thing statewide. That's what we need to be seeing hyperlocal instead of arguing about the soap opera the president. See you when you have those three Grammys in your hands.
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