Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #663: Charlamagne Tha God, Ana Navarro, Joel Stein

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 6/14/24) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maher. All right, here we are in a hundred times. She's a CNN contributor host on ABC's review Anna Navarro. He writes the weekly column

The End of My Career on Sub-Sack Joel Stein. He hosts the syndicated radio show The Breakfast Club But his new book is yet honest or dialing Charlemaine the God.

Okay. All right, what do you think panel of Martha Ann Elita that is Justice Alito at the Supreme Court, his wife who likes flags. Okay, it's Flag Day. Today's Flag Day. Is it reflective of a larger phenomenon in the U.S.?

How is there not a Bravo show, The Real Housewives, of the Supreme Court? I would watch the crap out of that. Mrs. Alito and the double-wide with Mrs. Thomas. Well, I mean, the fact that this country is so politicized, it's almost inevitable, I think, that the flags would get involved.

So many flags. I don't know what they mean. But you know, this lady said Mrs. Alito, that what makes her tick where what makes her happy, her hobby basically, she's not knitting, she's not playing pickleball, no, she's making up flags in her head.

She's got one where she wants to put out the word Vergonia, which is Italian for shame. Except she's not Italian. She's not Italian? No, she's married to an Italian, but she kept telling this woman the activist, that she was German.

And I kept thinking to myself, if she is spewing all of this to this woman who she doesn't know at a public event, just imagine what that lady does in private. But wait. To be fair. Okay. So is she flag-phobic?

God hates flags. God's here. Okay. Well, it started when her neighbor, this is what I read, started when the neighbor put up a fuck Trump sign, which is obnoxious. Didn't she get spit on and called the C word? Yes.

Which is also obnoxious. Yeah, but when you buy a house on the Jersey Shore, like the real estate tells you that's going to happen. You know, this is the problem with America, though. We never actually talk about the issue. You said the flag said fuck Trump. So her actual issue, is somebody that I assume she supports, right?

Somebody put a flag up insulting that person. How does it become the flags for it? Right. America, you never know how to discuss the issue, ever. Like, instead of talking to each other, we just put up flags. Well, they're better than bumper stickers because you don't even have to read three words.

I will tell you, I have been surprised and amazed by the number of flags that I didn't know about that exists in America. You're talking about the pride flags? No. That one I know about. No, there's like 12 of those. There's the one that she makes up in her head.

There's the, what is it? Elevate to Jesus. What's the one that she flies in a... Appeal to heaven. Apeel to heaven flag. There's the upside down. The upside down flag. We wasted like three months of our country's time

upset that you can't kneel when the American flag is up. And now you can like turn them upside down and make them black and white. Like the rules have changed. I mean, well, I made that point a couple of weeks ago. the fact that the Republicans can do anything that is so unpatriotic

and they don't get called for it. If a Democrat flew the flag upside down, they have patriotic immunity. It's just the weirdest thing. That's how I feel about when Trump said he wanted to terminate the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election. That's the most unpatriotic thing to say.

Somebody that wipes out for the Constitution? Charlemagne, this is for you. Is Trump dangerous because he's funny? What the fuck? Is he funny? Trump is dangerous because at one point he was president of the United States of America and he's running to be president of the United States of America again.

If he wasn't, you know, running to be in that position, he'd be the most hilarious person on the planet. But... I mean, do you actually... You're a comedian. Do you actually find him funny? Yes. Oh, unintentionally.

Yes. It's a scream. What? If he were... Oh, he's so funny. But he doesn't know it. Every time I... No, really.

I mean, there are people like that. There are... He has no... When I listen to him, when he's talking in those rallies about the sharks and the batteries, I'm waiting for the men in white jackets to show up. But it's only because he's running for president.

If he wasn't running for president, you'd be like, this stand-up is amazing. But he sounds... And I've heard you talk about this subject before. He sounds like more of a normal person. Yes. And that, I know you say that the Republicans have a big advantage because they communicate. Yeah, I mean, Republicans are more sincere about their lives than Democrats are about their truth.

Like, when you listen to Donald Trump talk, you listen to Marjorie Taylor Green, that's what Waffle House sounds like at 3 in the morning. And sadly, people relate to that. I gotta disagree with you on that, because I think a lot more people disagree with having a fuck-up in their family who got on drugs than they do with paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in hush money. Yes, I agree. But that fuck up in your family on drugs is so funny when he's not stealing from you. Right. He's hilarious. Give him $20, make him dance.

You never did that? Okay. Just me. What impact will the Supreme Court's decision to strike down the ban on gun bump stocks have? Okay, so, look, I'm not the biggest expert on guns. But I try to understand and not just talk because that I hear a lot. People who don't know anything about guns and talk about them. I'm trying to limit what I say commensurate to my knowledge, which is not that much.

Okay, bumstocks, I understand, are this thing you can attach to a gun, and it basically becomes a machine gun. And a machine gun is illegal in America. So I don't understand how they could make this legal. Well, what the majority argued was that it wasn't a machine gun, but if you go on YouTube, anybody, go on YouTube and look at the same gun with a bumpstock and without it, and the amount of bullets that can come out of it when it's got the bumpstock are immense, immensely increased. And so I think it was, you know, Sonia Sotomayor who said it in the dissenting opinion.

The consequences are going to be lethal. The consequences are going to be catastrophic. And she said, look, when I see a bird that walks like a duck, looks like a duck, looks like a duck, It's a duck. This is a machine gun. Right. Whatever you want to call it. When they are... If Donald Trump

thought it was a machine gun, Donald Trump banned this thing? I mean, these folks have become so... The Supreme Court has become so conservative they're overturning Trump. And yet on the same day, they ruled unanimously for the abortion pill. No, they didn't. They ruled that they didn't have standing.

They didn't rule on the issue. But isn't that essentially saying that... No. No. It means that the people... people who brought the legal action had not suffered any harm. It's like, you know, it's like this audience bringing an action for X, Y,

or see a harm. I don't buy that argument. I think the law is whatever anybody says they are. It's what they want to rule on, and then they will find a reason. There is a whole fucking wall of books behind them. If you can't find some law in there to back up what you really want to say

in your ruling, then you're not a good lawyer. And they do it all the time. So if they, for some reason, they want the difference is, though, that by not ruling on the actual legal issue, that legal issue could come up again if it is brought by folks who do have standing and who can prove that they've somehow been harmed by it. What is the reason why anyone would need a gun to fire that many rounds? I mean...

A mass shooting. Well, but you can't really give that reason. I'm just saying what is the rationale, but if you're going into... If you're arguing this in court and you were saying, you know, we really need these bumpstocks because, I don't know, my house is being attacked by the North Korean Army. I need to shoot

a thousand of something when I go out hunting. I don't understand where you even get that rationale. It would be something involving some type of fear. I don't know what the fear would be, but it would be something involving this person is afraid of something. Zombies. Zombies, okay.

God damn America. We used to be a proper country. Yeah, we did. We used to be a proper country. There's a flag for that. Does Hillary Clinton... What didn't it be nice if that was a question on the form? What?

In addition to asking if you're on drugs, while you're buying the gun, why are you buying this gun that can shoot this many people in such a show of time? What's your... What's your reason? Right now, a lot of people, you know, as crazy as it sounds, a lot of people would say Civil War. Like, you would be surprised how many people stopped me in the street.

I literally had somebody to stop me in the street and say to me that regardless of who wins in November, but there's going to be a civil war. And they were dead serious. Yes. And this was like a white guy with some khakis and a polo on. Right.

He was serious. You're right. No, you actually hit it on the head. That's what this is about. They think the war is coming. And you're going to need machine guns. Good night, everybody. No, I'm going to...

One more. Let's... That's a depressing note. Does Hillary Clinton... Does Hillary Clinton endorsing Jamal Bowman's challenger signal that mainstream Democrats are tiring of the squad? Okay, this is very inside baseball for those who don't fire. It's very inside New York. Follow politics.

Jamal Bowman is a member of the squad. He is a Democratic congressman from New York, very far left. He's being challenged, and kind of anti-Israel. He is being challenged in the primary by a more centrist Democrat who Hillary Clinton has endorsed. That's the background. of this? There's a split in the party. It's been going on, I mean, since Bernie Sanders ran, but on October 7th, it became very clear. It's generational, and it's ideological, and it's philosophical, and it's, I don't know where

it's going to wind up. Well, it's going to be fun at the convention. Yeah, I know Jamal, I wouldn't say Jamal, I don't think he's anti-Israel. He's anti, you know, the war that Israel is waging, waging on Gaza, or, you know, what they call a genocide, right? It's not a genocide. That's ridiculous. I'm not, that's their language.

That's their language and it's erroneous. And that's what he's against. So, yeah, I think that... We're all against war. Yeah. At a point, at some point you have to make reasonable, practical decisions. If you think Khamas should be wiped out and they did attack Israel and they're avowed to wipe out Israel, they're the ones who actually are saying we would commit a genocide.

And we do not want to ceasefire. And we do not want a ceasefire. And we do not want a two-state solution. If you think they have to be wiped out, then you're not. Israel is going to have to conduct this war. Do you think Netanyahu wants to ceasefire? No. No. Of course not. He wants to finish the war.

So does everybody in Israel. They all, even when they get, when Netanyahu's days are numbered, but even when he goes, I know lots of people who have been to Israel, the policy will continue. They do, it's like they have to finish this war. But as long as Netanyahu keeps

this war going, he doesn't have to answer the question of how the hell did this happen in the first place. Well, he will. How is it possible that Hamas was training hundreds of feet from the border of Israel with the Mossan and the intelligence capabilities. And as long as he keeps this war going, he doesn't have to answer the question. But to answer your question, I do think Hillary is supporting the other candidate because the candidate is pro-Israel and Jamal is labeled anti-Israel. To answer the question.

Right. Okay. But you know, we have to figure out a way to talk about this issue where we are not telling young people that they're dumb. Because when people, when we were young and people told us that, it didn't work. So I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to explain. I do. How? I don't tell them they're dumb.

They're not dumb. They're ignorant. There's a different. There's a difference. To call someone stupid, yes, that's wrong. Stupid, you can't help because you're fucking stupid. You're just stupid. Ignorant just means you don't know something.

We are all ignorant of almost everything. There's a practically infinite things in the way. this world you could know about, I don't know about 99.999% of them. But calling them ignorant would be a terrible electoral strategy. It's electoral, yes. Electrally, that would be a terrible strategy. But it is the truth. They are ignorant.

Is a bad electoral strategy right now. And also... There's nowhere in the world where the far left is winning. The far right's winning. Centrists are winning. But the far left isn't winning anywhere. The ignorance is not their fault because they let them out of school that way. The ignorance is the part of the people, the adults and the educators.

who don't do their job anymore and they let you out of school. They will sign that diploma and you don't know a fucking thing. Really? Certainly not about this issue. Listen, this is an issue that is incredibly complicated

that people in Congress don't know about that. They sure don't. To Anna's point, though, they should find a way to talk about it because dismissing all of those young folks is not going to help them in November. That is true.

And when you look at what's going on in Michigan, when you have a bunch of voters voting non-committed, I don't know how they're going to flip that switch come November to say, hey, go out and vote. But I got to say... Let me tell you something. The last thing you want is Donald Trump doing a foreign policy

with Netanyahu. They're going to turn Gaza into a pavement, you know, into a parking lot. That's right. It's not going to be any better. That's what I'm saying. But it's got also worked both ways. Like, the young people have to listen to people who are older them

and not just say, I don't agree with you, you're old. you're just saying get off my lawn Oh, you're just, that's just good a... You know what? First of all, you could... What they are saying that? Because they don't want them protesting on the lawn at a college campus. But they are saying,

get off my lawn, I mean... But I'm always saying that is don't say that to me. Don't say you're old, or you're just saying get off my lawn. Engage with the idea. Then I will respect you. Engage with the idea.

And by the way, you could never get near my lawn. All right. Thank you very much, everybody. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10 or watch them anytime on HBO On Demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com.