Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #677: Rep. Jamie Raskin, Tim Miller, Michael Moynihan

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 11/1/24) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-month series, Real Time with Bill Maugh. That's it. Nobody else. Not Tim and Michael. All right. Tim Miller and Michael were in here. Yeah, I guess I guess it's got stuck. Or the prompter guy just died.

All right. Here are the questions from people. If Trump loses, do you think Steve Bannon will lead election denial efforts? No kidding. now that he has been released from prison. He would have done it from prison. Yeah. I talked to Steve Bannon.

I interviewed him in 2020, and he told me a month before the election that they were going to deny the results. A full month before. He told me that in an interview, that we're going, like, there's no way Trump is going to concede, and I don't suspect he'll do that again.

There's only ever two outcomes with them. Either we won or it was rigged. Yes, it's the answer to that question. Yes, yes. I mean, we've been living with this for 10 years. I don't know if it's going to... If Trump went away tomorrow, would that end? I don't think so.

I think another person in the Republican Party would pick up that mantle, don't you think? I don't think there's anything going back from that. No, I don't think so either. There's a little bit going to place. But what's interesting is that in 2020, Bannon and the inner coterie were all emphatic that Trump was going to declare victory,

even if he lost, and they were explicit about. They're saying regardless of whether or not he wins, he will declare victory. Can I give you one happy thought though in this? Yes. I agree that they'll try in the future, but like it is really hard to imagine like a mob of people storming the capital, waving J.D. Vance flags. You know what I mean? Like there will still be election denialism, but like Trump's unique charisma is important and like removing him from the process is a good positive step. Okay.

What would be the public reaction be if instead of Elon talking to Putin, yes, we found out that Elon Musk does talk to Putin, we learned that George Soros had a secret relationship with Chinese President Xi. Well, good question. The Elon thing is insane. Actually, it's insane to me that it isn't like wall-to-wall. There's no precedent for the situation we have. He's the biggest donor to Trump.

He is, if not the biggest, one of the biggest government contracts. Defense contracts. Yeah, recipients of government contracts. he's talking to Putin. Apparently during one of the talks with Putin, Putin asked him to do a favor for him for she. So she is involved in this. Like we're about not giving Starlings to Taiwan or something like that.

During the conversation? Sure. So like the Soros example isn't really apt at all because he's on top of Soros, he's also a government contractor and he's also coordinating with our geopolitical foes. It's an absolutely insane scandal that I feel like people are like, well, yeah,

we know that's happening. Well, Russia and China are close allies. now, and we've got North Korean troops that have joined the bloody Russian invasion of Ukraine. So there is like this axis of autocratic powers that have gotten together, and yet we've got Donald Trump and Elon Musk in frequent, often daily contact with them. It was a very fast descent, too. I mean, at the beginning of the Ukraine war, Elon Musk provided Star-Larer. for Ukraine. And then said at some point that they would prevent Starlings from working in

certain areas of Ukraine because the Ukrainians were using them for offensive purposes. And, you know, I was on this stage when he was here being interviewed and he was, this was a year and a half, two years ago. And it just seemed like a different person. Today I saw that he's posting videos on Twitter, on X, of people trying to vote for Donald Trump and making it a Harris I mean, these are obvious nonsense videos. But this is being spread by the person who owns the platform is the richest man in the world and has how many, you know, hundreds of millions of followers.

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What do you make of the statement? I woke up today to the headline that Trump had called for a firing squad for Liz Cheney. And this is what I really don't like about the media. No, he didn't. You don't have to move me to not like Donald Trump. He says so many shitty things. Why do you have to do that?

And by the way, if Pete don't realize it, here's what he said. He's criticizing him for being a war hawk. I mean, she has Dick Cheney's daughter. He said, she's a radical warhawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her. Okay. Let's see how she feels about it. You know, they're all warhawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying,

oh, gee, we'll send tens of thousands of troops right into the mouth of the enemy. Now, of course, he expresses himself horribly. he has to add she's a stupid person because he's a moron. Well, Trump knows what it's really like from Vietnam. Okay. Just to be clear, this is exactly what hippies always said.

This is exactly what peace knicks always said. This is fortunate son, the song. It's like, you know what? It's very easy to sit in your building and send young men to die. Apropos of Ukraine. Yes. Because, I don't know, that war doesn't know.

It's going in the right direction. But just so, you know, just don't lie to me. I don't like Donald Trump. Don't lie to me and tell me she was in, he wants it in front of a firing court. He was saying something that, by the way, if it came out of the mouth, some of it, not the stupid part. Again, sounds like what hippies used to say about not sending people to, yes. I agree with you in lying. I mean, that is ridiculous and absurd and counterproductive.

But when did Donald Trump ever criticize a war hawk the way a hippie did? I mean, was it during Vietnam? He got out of going to Vietnam, but he didn't criticize the war or their rock war. I'm not defending Trump. Yeah. I'm just saying, don't lie to me. I agree with that. I mean, that's just a distortion.

It's counterproductive. I mean, the number of Trump people you talk to who talk about the media in giving them any ammunition like this, I mean, I saw headlines, Kairons on television this morning saying that Donald Trump, had said that Kamala Harris should be executed. I mean, at the beginning of that kind of rambling and coherent thing, she said give her a weapon, which is not typically something you do to say. And again, the spirit of it is something that if someone with a blue hat said it, people would not along on the weapon.

Yes, exactly. There's plenty of things he says that you don't have to invent them. Can I just say one thing? And I agree with you. All of those criticisms are fair. But there's been a lot of violence, as Nancy Pelosi knows, and a lot of threats, you know. And on both the nine guns in somebody's face,

it just still's not something. You really want a president saying? Of course, he's horrible. But, you know, half the country is like, that's the way we all talk. We don't watch or we don't watch what peace and the views. I also get a little annoyed about the media, the constant media criticism of the mainstream.

This is a fair criticism, but it's like, it's coming oftentimes from people who are like frequent viewers of the Jesse Waters show or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, there's a whole right-wing maga. It's not 1984, right? Where there are only three networks,

and if they're a little biased, if Dan Rother is telling you something that's wrong, that's like a really big deal that he's biased because 60 million people are watching Dan Ratho. It's like as many people like are watching daytime MSNBC as are watching primetime newsmax, right? So it's like, you know what I mean? So obsessing over the criticism.

Right, so obsessing over the criticism of it, I just sometimes think is a little overkill. So J.D. Vance said teens are becoming, teens are purposely becoming trans to get into elite colleges. Is that? What a good. It is, I don't think that's how,

I don't think that's why teens are becoming trans. But, wow. Just to throw it all on the table, I'm not so sure that elite colleges don't want trans, possibly more than they want, people who are not trans. I mean, that's just where the far left is.

But I don't think they're purposely doing that. He also said that he would, wouldn't be... What's his plan for the White House on that? I have no idea. What's the Trump? Is there any other like one case of that? Of course not. But he said, J.D. Vance said he wouldn't be surprised

if he and Donald Trump get the normal gay guy vote. You know. Tim? You want to take them? You know, guys who fuck women. The normal gay guys. I think what J.D. Vance means about a normal gay guy vote is the guy who has a blank profile on Grindr

who's messaging, who's messaging actual outgay. guys. I think that probably is a Trump's appointment. All right. I've got to go to Vegas. Thank you, everybody. I'll see you. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10 or watch them anytime on HBO

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