Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime – Episode #715: Killer Mike, Donna Brazile

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 11/21/25) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maher. All right. He is an entrepreneur, podcast, host and musician best known as one half of Run the Jewel's killer Mike. I know. It's just like, and she's an ABC News contributor on former DNC chair, Ghana Brazil. Trump threatened to pull ABC's license this week. I know. What the hell?

See, this is what I'm talking about. with Mel about like the things that bother me versus the things that don't, that bothers me. You see, the ballroom, I give a fuck. I don't care about the ballroom. I care about that. You just, I mean, like, it's just a, and also, like, did you see

the thing about the six Democrats who are all military service and intelligence work in their background, said, look, you don't have to follow orders. I don't know about that. Now, I understand what they mean because this thing with Venezuela is not legal. But what do you think about telling people

in the armed services you don't have to follow orders? Now Trump, of course, went ballistic and said George Washington would have hung them. Sedition, death. You know, he goes right to that and then today he walked it back. I didn't mean death. You said death. Yeah. And meanwhile, those lawmakers have to reach out to the U.S. Capitol Police, the House Sergeant in Arms, because they're getting death threats because they're afraid. And look, Senator Mark Kelly. Who's getting death threat? Those members.

Oh, those members, right. Mark Kelly, who's married to Gabby Gifford. I mean, to get death threats, he understands that. So it was wrong for Donald Trump to say that online. Of course. Now, here's the point. The military, there's a military rule that says you must follow legal, lawful orders. It's already in a military contract.

They know what they take. But who's to say what that is? Aren't the courts looking at that right now? And now you're going to say to 21-year-olds on the USS Enterprise, you have to decide? Because there's an effort under the way to politicize our military. I understand what the fear is. And the Justice Department. And their point was, don't give up the ship.

You have, you've taken an oath, don't give up the ship. Once you say to the military, you get to decide as opposed to yes, sir, no, sir. follow orders. It's a dangerous area. What about what we say in ninth grade civics class, though, about the Bill of Rights in the United States Constitution? That goes back to undereducating Americans, period. I think that there's a goal in public schools to make sure Americans are dumb. And I don't just mean Americans that look like me. To make sure the average working class American is dumb. The average soldier... You think that's a conspiracy? Yeah, I do. Because I think that the average workers... Well, again, that's the Democrats' portfolio is education. I don't, I'll give a shit with

with side of the pinch you on. Okay, great. It hasn't been good for. America. I happen to believe in this republic. I think that as young as we are in 250 years, we stand the greatest chance of being one of the greatest republics ever to have been formed on earth. But we are giving up too much. And part of what you give

up is the adherence to the United States Constitution and the understanding that their Constitution can transform. It can be amended. It can be grow. I personally think the 13th Amendment needs to be reamended so that we don't have an excuse for slavery, period. That ends the need for private and state prisons in the same way.

reduces the prison population from what used to be a half a million over two million now. But I think that soldiers do have a responsibility to adhere to the Constitution. I think if you're sent in on orders to disrupt a First Amendment constitutionally protected thing, I think it's a soldier you should say absolutely not. I'm not going to do it. And because we're just picking sides right now, and George Carlin said years ago, you know it's a club and you ain't in it, what we're doing is picking members of the club who are going to fly on a jet together afterwards,

whether they're Democrat or Republican. They're buddy, buddy. They went to Harvard. They went to Yale. They went to Morehouse. They went to Howard together. They're still going to be friends after. The bourgeoisie and up,

that class is going to be okay. But we, the working class, if people got to wear shit like this to work every day, we're going to get fucked over in this. And people who wear shit like this every day usually do this and say yes, sir, and no, sir. So for me, I would rather our soldiers be strictly adherent to the United States Constitution

and not following any order that's unconstitutional. Again, you're asking, I mean, The military is just different. I'm sorry. You're asking kids who probably don't know anything about the Constitution to make that decision. We've got to fix that too, Bill. I know, but we haven't fixed it,

but right now we haven't. We have to bring that fucking schoolhouse rock on Saturday. It's like, we got to do something, brother. We can't just have an ignorant proletarian. I know, but like, you'll be okay if they did that with Obama? Because he blew up some work. Yeah, I don't give up. He blew up some wedding parties.

I was going to hold this. I wasn't going to talk about this, right? Oh. We killed Gaddafi. We knocked them off the motherfucking face. Right? Right? You're like, absolutely.

But as a black person, I saw slavery return to Libya. I saw a man who was willing to help black people in their plight and their struggle by giving billions, ignored. I saw someone who wanted to unite Africa under one currency and have a potentially United States of Africa. And I know how dangerous that is to the European United States. I saw that crush. And as an American, I had to shut fuck up, go with the Republic. But that's something if I ever had a chance to talk to Obama, I'd really say, what. You see Gaddafi good guy?

I see Gaddafi has been not as bad as they said. But I can't see any president I have as a good guy. I love Obama. The symbol of Obama is up in my motherfucking house. He's a black man. He became president. And he did more drone bombings than any other U.S. president before him. He and Hillary Clinton disturbed a country called Libya in which you used to have a free house,

free education free, and now it's not free anymore. And there are people who look like me that aren't free. So as much as I love my republic. You know, it was a very repressive dictator. I hear what you're saying. We're living under one now. We ain't storming the fucking way, huh? It was that, you know what?

There's ice walking down American neighborhoods. Okay, if you think that's the same as Libya. I just say the same. I said it's repressive. But let's have some perspective. All right. I'm just going to.

Before y'all go smoke? You know. I'm going to tell you. I really like this. It's very easy to lose. And when the emails came out, the email said essentially we were doing it for the French. Like, how long do the French get the fucking

live off Haiti, Libya, West Africa. How long before you got to ante up what's in the Lou? The French are still living off Haiti? Oh, yeah. Well, why can't they fix it then? Well, why can't Haitians fix it? No, what? The French. If the French are so involved. There's no interesting color of Congress.

Don't you read France for non? Do you read Richard of the Earth? You know, you're dating the black women to know this shit. You know that. You got to tell them at night, man. The French pulled out of Haiti like in 1806. No, what I'm saying, though, is Haiti has been punished since 1806. Frederick Douglass wrote about this suit for being an example that you can with our colonizers. And to end colonization, it's going to take some form of violence. I think anyone who threatens colonies or the colonists are crushed.

So whether Gaddafi was ultimately in my eyes good or bad, he was better than what they have now. The people who have been repressing the people in Haiti for a very long time are not French. She and me. There are other Haitians. They're Haitians that are put into place. Papa Doc DuVuoyen was friends. Let's not act like we don't put dictators in the place. Okay, but they're not French.

Yeah, I'm about to say, oh, we help them come the power. They're not French, they're not Americans. They are Haitians. So the benefits. They're Haitians. No benefits go to the French from Haiti anymore. Tell me, tell me what?

I'm not aware of that. I'm just saying Haiti still... Tell me, what's going on? As far as I know, Haiti is still sending money to France, that's all. Sending money. That's falling apart. That's what I know. Okay.

And we need to do more to help countries like Haiti, especially now. So what's to do more? I would say we need to reparate countries we've called them now. There's a payment to be made to help countries get it. So we took Libya. What have we done to help their country become democratic and get back in a better state? What have we done to help Haiti do it?

Haiti is the reason we got Louisiana West today. America really owes Haiti. We kicked the French's ass so bad. It was like, fuck this, we'll sell New Orleans. Y'all have the Saints. Y'all have Dom. I mean, you can stay mad at the past forever, but at some point you've got to move forward

and make things better in the future. I'm not saying I want to move forward. I'm just saying put something in my pocket for you sock it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, let me have something. for my move forward. That's how we do it for other nations. To get back to your original point,

I mean, as a daughter of a veteran, I have to say this, and I love my veterans. I love the military. The military is the most trusted institution right now in American society. The media suck, church. I mean, Congress is popular. Yeah, the church.

I mean, institutions. The church is different from our Lord, okay? Okay. But Congress is his pop. be on me tonight. As long as we're going after the church, I'm all down. You're all freaking. A white woman told my wife this morning, man,

your dog has the cutest butt I've ever seen. I said, you know the people freak it. Some wild shit going on, man. Ooh, I don't want my dog to get anything else. Let's go to the... She might find she like it. A new... Pee-Pee man.

A new survey. A new survey found that the number of 12th grade girls interested in getting married someday has dropped 22 points over the last 30 years. Why do you think that is, have men become less appealing? Yeah. Hold on, marriage, period of merit to men. Well, good point. Yeah.

It just says getting married. I think they are implying to men, but yes. Well, I mean, we're no longer in the 1950s. Women can take their time in figuring out what they were. want and who they won and when they want. Hold on, Donna. Shana, Shana, hello. Hello.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What. Tell. That's fine for y'all. But tell my wife it's time to go. I don't want her on the same.

Yeah, I want my wife to steal cook and roll my bag at night. And she does all the business in our house too, though. She runs things. Yeah, but I bet. She could be president. But I bet you provide a lot of sustenance and support for your wife to get the things. I'm going to get the thing. I'm going to.

I know there ain't no black woman going to let your ass be a lady. You know what. you know what? No, definitely. Get your ass up, pick that up. I know. I know better. Mm-hmm.

But, I mean, we are sort of at a point now where the men and women just, they just have nothing. They just don't want anything to do with each other in a lot of them. It's crazy. Well, no, really, like, you look at, like, who listens to what podcasts? It is very hard to get women to listen to my podcast.

Just, they just as, like, you're a man. We're just not going. A lot of guys listen to male, though. Of course, that's what... The men listen to the men, the women listen to men. No, no, male, the woman who you interviewed them. Oh, Mel. Yeah, we listen to men.

Yeah, well, that's a phenomenon, yes. But, I mean, in general, it is very hard to get women interested in anything men are saying these days. It's just that they just think that we're just a bunch of knuckle-draggers, and they have a lot of evidence for that. Damn. And men are in cells, and they're not... They're not engaging women in the way women would like, they need to be courted.

They have not changed as much as we would like to think, or some people would like to think. Women are still the women I remember as a youth. Okay? They still want the same things. We don't want your shit. We're tired of it. We're exalted. I mean, we're exalted.

We need it. No, no, I'm not, of course you're needed. I mean, don't tell me, because you know, I can spell that out. Of course you need it. But we're tired of taking your shit. don't want to feel down all the time. You don't have to feel responsible for picking up

your shit, taking care of your shit, and then dealing with your shit. Drain. We're tired of it. Yeah. This is saying is a woman, brother, have nobody than someone who drains them. Right. It's, we want our bags. We have a lot of shit, too. Guys are changing the tires,

guys are raking the yard, guys are doing what their supposed. Like, guy's shit may not come up on a daily basis. It may not be picking the kids up from school during the laundry every day, right? But when the door gets kicked in at three in the morning. That motherfucker with a shotgun, it better be a guy. You know what I mean? Like, so I'm just, there is

what I think is that We have some use. Yeah, some use. You know what I mean? We pick up heavy shit. We have some use. But I would... But women can pick up heavy shit, too, you know. I would... No. I bring my own trash. I rake my own damn weeds. Yeah, I have me a glass of wine. Bill, you gotta get down. You got to.

You got one. No, no. You said... You said... You said... You said... You said I'm playing shit. Listen, I'm gonna tell you the guy at night. I wanna, you know who I like to be? Who? Stetman. Oh, damn.

I see Stetman. Uncle Stamber being in Atlanta, he'd just be chilling. I wanna be like Stetman. So, baby, my wife out there, I want you to do well. I want you to make lots of money, baby. I do the laundry, I'll wash the dishes. Just take care of me like Stetman, baby.

I ain't no call. I ain't no callous is on me hands, ladies. Not looking for a callous. All right. The final question for the season of the season. Simple one. No controversy here. Let's end on a harmonious note for panel. What is your favorite dish on the Thanksgiving table? We can't fight about that. All right, gumbo. I love gumbo. I love stuffing. I like to stuff melaton's. I like dirty rice. You ever have some dirty rice? I had some dirty rice. Ooh, sugar. What is that? Ooh. See, you need a black experience.

Maybe someday it'll happen. If you put some chicken gizze, if you put some chicken gizze, after your Trinity, man, you're talking about bumping. You would be sitting on that couch saying, honey, whatever you want later, you got it. And it's all healthy. And when you make this for me, you'll really put your foot in it? Oh, babe, I'm putting everything in it. All right.

What's your favorite? My favorite is Shays, macaroni and cheese. My sister, Lovie's stuffing. Das Barbecue smokes an incredible turkey. And the marijuana usually get around Thanksgiving is much better. All right. Great enjoy our season. Thank you, guys.

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