Real Time with Bill Maher - Overtime: Rep. Will Hurd, Myr. Bill de Blasio, Jennifer Rubin, Jon Meacham, Peter Hamby | Real Time (HBO)

Episode Date: February 2, 2019

Bill Maher and his guests answer viewer questions after the show. (Originally aired 2/1/19) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices....com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night series, Real Time with Bill Maugh. Hey, the congressman is back. Okay, all right, so here are the questions. John Meacham, does the post-Civil War era offer any lessons and how to seize upon a post-Trump era to enact real lasting political and social reform?
Starting point is 00:00:22 Oh, we're in Reconstruction times already. Not really, unfortunately, because Reconstruction really was a prelude to a century, where we were still fighting Jim Crow. And U.S.S. Grant got a couple of things right. He fought against the Klan, and that was important. It didn't come back until the 20s. But the Justice Department was founded, actually,
Starting point is 00:00:46 to fight the Klan for the first time in the 1870s. I do think this is like Reconstruction, in that the most analogous president, which is like saying you're the best restaurant in the hospital, you know, it's a small category, is, in fact, Andrew Johnson, Because Johnson... Oh, yeah. He was...
Starting point is 00:01:02 Horrible. Johnson was trying to undo the verdict of the war and was doing so... And they impeached him. So let's get on with the impeachment. Okay. Will, you voted against a resolution to request the president's tax returns. You did?
Starting point is 00:01:17 It was... Come on, Will. No. Do you believe... There wasn't an actual resolution on the floor, but it was probably a motion to table. But if it comes back on, I'm sure I know where the question's going.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I think we should see the president's... Oh, good. That's why it's... That's why we bring Republicans here. We can bring them to that, you know, we bring them to that. Like the gay therapy. We run... That's right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:43 But this one works. Right. Okay. Jennifer, what do you make of the Senate's latest warning against precipitous withdrawal from Syria? Does this signal a shift in Republican pushback against Trump's foreign policies? Listen, whatever they can do is more than they have been doing, which is exactly nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So every little bit should be encouraged. Now perhaps they can start pushing back on things like the wall, on things like his non-existent victory over ISIS. So if they can start in small ways, hopefully this will become a pattern and a trend. I think what is interesting is that
Starting point is 00:02:18 they're no longer completely cowed by the sky, that they have some inkling of independent, some sense of self-survival, maybe. So this is a good thing. I don't think it's going to be enough, frankly, to save a bunch of them in 2020. Someone like Corey Gardner, is kaput.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But hey, if they want to start and they want to start actually taking their job seriously, that would be great. Jennifer, don't you think they should go the next step and actually decide and vote to authorize
Starting point is 00:02:46 our military actions rather than just letting them happen? Oh, well, you're going to go back to the Constitution. Right, I mean, this is... I hope this leads to a bigger discussion with all respect to the congressman. Where's the war?
Starting point is 00:02:57 powers act when you need it, all these wars have happened without congressional authorization, and somehow the Congress is not clamoring to make that decision. That was a bipartisan. It was the, here you go. Yes. To give up that. The last time we declared war was. Right. 2001. It was not even Vietnam. It was authorized. Yeah. War II. You actually don't want to declare war, right? No. When you declare war, that means the president gets all these powers here in the United States. That's why it's the authorized use of military force. That's the, that's the, But it's so open-ended right now.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Since we've discovered now a whole bunch of these emergency powers, which sounds like these things are still on the book. Some of them have been on the books for 60 years. We don't even know what they are. So to the mayor's point, it used to be, like back when I was a member of the Republican Party in the Deep Dark Ages, that the Republican Party was against executive power. With all respect, wasn't it like two years ago? Yeah, it was like 2012.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It's in dog years. So that's like, you know. So that's like, you know, in dog years it's a life. So it used to be the party. that didn't like executive power. It used to be the power. Paul Ryan would give speeches about Congress recovering the power of the person. Well, that's when Obama was president.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, exactly. It's completely different when it was saying that. You think George W. Bush was saying that? No, no, no. It's all. People always hate executive power until they happen. But both parties did this. Let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Both parties in the Congress have stepped away from the responsibility, left it to the president. And this is something we should be asking questions about as Americans. Why are, why were we in Saudi Arabia? Arabia? Why are you in Yemen? Why was we backing Saudi Arabia in Yemen? Why were we part of a humanitarian crisis? Why were our tax dollars killing families and children? And the Congress said nothing until very recently. Something's wrong with that equation. Two points here. I think Jennifer is absolutely right that Congress in the past, and again, I've only been
Starting point is 00:04:46 Congress for four years, so I use that past tense, has given power to the executive branch. The Congress is supposed to be a co-equal branch of government, and that's where they've given too much up, and we're trying to claw some of that back. There was a vote earlier this week about saying our support for NATO because NATO has been responsible for 70 years of peace and prosperity. We're in Yemen because the Iranians were creating a humanitarian crisis in Yemen, right? And so...
Starting point is 00:05:16 There was no vote by the Congress to authorize military support for Saudi Arabia, and we know that Saudi Arabia exacerbated the humanitarian crisis. There was no actual debate and vote, and that's dangerous. What did you think about the Trump getting a guy to pass over 30 people to get security clearance
Starting point is 00:05:35 who the experts said shouldn't have security clearance? Kushner. Someone who has... Well, Kushner and 30 people who went through the normal channels, which at the top levels is the CIA. And they said, no, are you kidding? These are white-collar criminals.
Starting point is 00:05:53 They can't have security clearance. They're up to their necks with other countries. And he found some stooge to say, oh, no, you have security clearance. I'm pretty confident that the distinguished gentleman from the state of Maryland, Chairman Elijah Cummings, will be investigating that process.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And he should. You're saying he should. Okay, good. He's sounding more than Democrat every day. Let's keep him here. Let's keep him here all night. Can we add another new rule? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:26 What's always funny is when we actually agree, when one person of one party agrees with some of the other party, we always say, be more like me, right? But can we just say for once, hey, we're actually in agreement? Because making sure we have two strong parties is important to this country. The competition of ideas is what has made this country. Okay, but one party is enabling Donald Trump, and one party is enabling all this things that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:51 The fact that he's able to get away with giving security clearances to people who don't deserve them is because the Republican Party as a whole is not standing up to him and is allowing. The reason why he gets away with having meetings with Putin and nobody gets to take notes. I mean, what goes on in these meetings with Putin? It's the Republican Party. It's not a bipartisan endeavor why he's able to get away with this. And that's why many of us who were in the Republican Party said they have to lose. They have to lose really badly so that they will.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Either they'll either start over or some other party will come up, but you can't have a party that has lost its mind and lost all. Okay. Mr. Mayor, were you surprised to learn that the Trump Foundation is being forced to dissolve after allegedly engaging in a shocking pattern of illegality? The Trump family. I mean... Bill, I have to say, I did not recover from that report. It was so shocking to be... No, this is everything... The guy has been a con man. What's amazing is It was back in the 1980s, and he's done disgusting, you know, he called for the execution
Starting point is 00:07:58 of five young men in the Central Park Five case who were proven innocent. He took out full-page ads to call for the execution. This guy, he has stiffed his workers every step along the way in the hotel industry. He's a con man who got away with it for decades. He's not going to get away with it this time. I hope not. Okay. We'll leave it on that.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Thank you very much. Thank you, audience. Catch all new episodes of Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10. Or watch them anytime on HBO On Demand. For more information, log on to HBO.com.

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