Red Scare - AidHate

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

The ladies discuss 60 Minutes on HateAid, Milei's foray into meme coins, and Ashley St. Clair's Valentine's Day baby bombshell.

["All The Things You Said"] And we're back with us again. Hey. Hey. Hey. How's it going? It's good. I'm PMSing. Yeah, me too. I'm like about to get my period. Me too. If you're going to feel, I'm kind of on the. Anyway, what were you talking about? What was I talking about? I'm jack shit.

I was like meandering. Yeah. What the, what's even, I mean, Ashley Sinclair. Yeah. Hate Aid. Hate Aid. Germany has an election coming up and they're really cracking down on hate speech. Vance sort of chastised them in the EU broadly at like a conference in Munich.

What else? That's about it. That's it, that's the end of the episode. What's in the news? Okay. What should we talk about first? It's up to you. Roll the die. Let's talk about Germany. Sure. Everyone saw the 60 minutes clips. Awesome. I love, I fucking love 60 minutes.

Me too. Everyone was like, well, it's for boomers. That's why blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I guess I'm a boomer. It is. It's like, it's nice. It's like, you know, it's some nice reporting, you know? Yeah. You're like a journalist is there and the guy has folders and stuff. And they have like, just like an endless revolving door roster of like, pretty attractive but kind of aging female reporters who are supposed to be like hard hitting and skeptical, which I really like. It reminds me of that, of like the heyday of like, Katie Couric and Diane Sawyer. And what's the other lady Jane something?

I don't know. I don't yeah I'm not from wasn't familiar. It's before your time Jane Paulie. Oh okay yeah I've heard that before. And they were all kind of like hot, yet dignified, which we don't really have anymore. We have 60 minutes. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's a respectable media institution. It's just funny because the only time you encounter shows like that is when they make their way to social media in the form of viral clips. I used to watch it during the pandemic

when I was in LA with Sophie and Andy, we'd watch 60 minutes every night. It was like one of our like domestic rhythm. What's the vibe with 60 minutes? Is it like? It's like little stories. Yeah, well, I know, but is it like libtarded or is it nonpartisan?

That's the thing. It's like, it's kind of, it's the news, you know? Yeah, but with like a human interest layer, which is always fun. Yeah, it's very neutral, I'd say. It's very like centrist. Yeah. Show.

And they kind of like go where the wind blows. Yeah, so they ran this segment on something called Hate Aid, which is a Berlin-based human rights organization that, quote, supports the victims of online violence. I went to the gym that day for the first time in maybe four or six months. So I was really high on my own supply and like too big for my britches.

I felt like real euphoric and arrogant and ordinarily I would be like struck by like moralistic fervor, but this time I just couldn't stop laughing. Cause I know, I know it's very sad and tragic. What's happening in Europe. Yeah. Their great civilization is like coming to heel. It's not, it hasn't been good for a while. Yeah.

In my opinion, and Germany has very much been leading the charge. Yeah. Of being cucked and cowardly. It's just so funny. Like the whole premise, like victims of online violence. It just makes me think of that,

like Tyler, the creator tweet. Yeah, just close your eyes. What are you? Log off. I mean, I was enjoying, I guess, the like thought experiment of like people being mean to me going to jail. I know, I know. I was like, a lot of people have done crimes against me.

But on the flip side, so much of what we've said on here and on Twitter would land us in jail in Germany. We'd all just be in jail. And I did so much Germany roasting on the TL. I really can't set foot over there Without at least being slapped with like a hefty fine Yeah, so they um unclear like when these laws went into effect, but they're prosecuting

People who not only post what's commonly you know We all can recognize is like hate speech, but anything that incites hate. Yeah, that incites violence. Yeah. Well, she presses them and says, Is it a crime to insult someone? And they say, yes. Yeah. And then she's like, and it's even worse, a more of a crime to insult someone on it is illegal. Yeah, to insult on the internet. Yeah. Yeah, because there is a record and what you say on the internet stays there. If I insult you in person, that's okay, because we can have it out right there. But I can't do a

German accent. That's also a crime. I can't do a German accent to serve. That's also a crime. Yeah. Which like, I had this thought recently, like man, I could really go for like a European vacation. How nice would it be to have like a pedetera there? You can mince around like on cobblestone streets, wearing a little beret and eating tons of pastries

and somehow you never get fat and in fact you may even lose weight. Anna in Paris, yeah. You're wearing all these stupid little fashions. And then I was like, man, am I glad to be an American. Of course. I mean, I love France. France, the other parts of Europe I've been to, do just feel there is this crushing eco-leftist.

And so this is all happening ostensibly, I guess, because of the election and the AFD, Alternative for Deutschland Party, which is the far right, I guess, over there. So they are trying to like suppress organic online expressions of thought. Populism and democracy in the guise of wrong thing of supporting and advancing democracy because we need civility yeah I guess in Germany the hate speech laws are written into the Constitution as the CEO of hate aid points out I mean I've

known it's but you can't say shit about the Holocaust. Yeah. You can't say nothing about, you can't do swastika over there. You can't even, which I, this is wrong. Yeah. It's even like, even from, you know, it's wrong on so many levels

because it's also kind of like, it's like saying like, we can't talk about slavery. Right. I mean, it's like, you're not even talk. Yeah, you can't say anything. Yeah. I mean, it's wrong on a moral level. But even that is too, like nebulous and abstract, because it's also wrong on a practical level, because you're literally just radicalizing people and red pilling them by contributing to like an overall climate of repression. It doesn't accomplish any stated or implicit goals.

Yeah. And instead, like, yeah, the men's, I guess, like, yeah, repressed rage. Yeah. And like, you know, you can get fined for it or even jailed for it. They come in your house, take your phone away. Yeah, they'll like seize your laptop. Some bureaucrat comes in your fucking house.

Imagine it. It's like a police raid. And you're doing day trading and they take my computer away? Cause I posted a meme. With all of your like nudes and Pepe's on it. And I'm guessing this is like an organization that like bills itself is like facilitating

the discovery and prosecution of like speech offenders and thought criminals. Well, the hate aid is a separate thing. Yeah, but it's like a German based organization that like liaises with like the government and intelligence. Yeah, and they are subsidized by the government. Yeah. Um, and yeah, work closely with the online hate task force.

Yeah. Printing out the memes and putting them in the folders. And the guy takes the reporter into his, his shitty office with all his folders. I know that's so, that was the fun. I couldn't stop laughing because it's so fucking German to have like a ton of folders and files. It's like Stasi coded.

It's actually like not efficient. Yeah, exactly. Which is the saving grace because it's a bunch of like Gen X and boomer bureaucrats who don't know how to use a computer, like filing things into cabinets and they have like printouts of your most inflammatory tweets and that the examples of the hate speech that they show are like pretty damning rhetorically.

It's like people making jokes about how refugee children should play in like electrified wire or how all migrants should die. But you know, they have some very benign stuff in there, too. Yeah. Yeah, like cartoons of Mohammed. Someone putting up an SS flag as a teenager. But photoshoot. But Lomaz pointed out that Hate Aid is the organization that employs a guy called Travis Brown, who's a former Twitter employee and notorious doxxer who likely fed the Doge employee Marco Ellis' tweets to former USAID worker, now Wall Street journalist, Catherine Long,

who broke the story. Here we go. And Travis Long is apparently like an antifa journalist who was suspended from Twitter for doxxing, but won an injunction against them so he could resume his activity. And Hate Aid was actually the entity that sued Twitter resume his activity. And hate aid was actually the entity that sued

Twitter on his behalf. So they not only expose and prosecute people who are allegedly guilty of hate speech, they also provide like legal counsel and legal aid to people who are doing the exposing and the prosecuting. It's truly Orwellian. Yeah. This is Josephine Belon, who's the CEO. Without boundaries, a very small group of people can rely on endless freedom. I'm trying to do a German accent, but failing. I'm going to give it up.

Ja. To say anything that they want while everyone else is scared and intimidated. This is not only a fear It's already taking place already half of the internet users in Germany are afraid to express their political opinion and they rarely participate in public debates online and anymore I Wonder why that is there's a cyber bullying issue. It's because they're scared of trolls and bullies online. They're scared to go on the Internet yeah, they're scared to go on the internet? Yeah, they're scared Nick Fuentes might ratio them. That's why they're not giving their opinions on politics in their country.

Not because you're busting down my door while I'm playing on my phone. I know, is there another reason perhaps why people are frightened to air their honest opinions about the state of German politics that concerns everyone inside of Germany. And the ironic thing about it is that they're still like total Nazis.

Literally. The direction of the persecution may have changed. It may have flipped entirely. They used to persecute the Jews, now they're persecuting on behalf of the Jews. But like the core personality course construct is the same. It's like strict and humorless and punishing the Nazi impulse. So like that's they can't eradicate in their blood. And I mean, they're just such losers. Lost two world wars, now worst country in Europe probably. It's like crazy how that's just like the national character and that girl the CEO

she's like a classic like internet users she's like an Aryan shield maiden with like long blonde hair and piercing A10s. I thought she was actually quite beautiful but had like a tight bitter mouth. I don't like that, you know. They did a protest in France also where chicks show their tits. Really nice. Another one? Another one. Must be nice.

I'm like, okay. I'm like, it is fun to see their tits. It is all the different kinds. And you're like, oh, you know, yeah, it's true. Yeah. But it's so pathological on their end to like have the look of like, just like vindication, like a grieved frenzy like can't you just bounce on a trampoline or like mud wrestle or something? Stupid foys. Or sell a coin and then you can post pictures of your tits and make money. Without the weird like moral political baggage. Yeah. Fuck you. moral political baggage. Yeah. Fuck you. And then that anchor lady on Face the Nation was talking to Marco Rubio and she said that free speech was weaponized to conduct a genocide. Against whom? That's what she thinks happened in Germany in World War II. It was free speech

that led to... Yeah, in Rubio Reba, he said there was no free speech in Germany. They had an authoritarian dictator and that's not what happened. Yeah, it's so funny because literally a hundred years ago, this girl would have been Hitler's mistress, and now she's throwing people in jail for making Hitler jokes. And she doesn't even know it. It's totally subconscious. She's a, what do you call him? Foot soldier of the regime.

It doesn't matter where she gets her power as long as she gets to be, as long as she gets to wield it. But she had this like formidable aura. It was like the Vaseline lens, early Lenny Riefenstahl kind of glowing halo around her, the blonde halo or whatever they call it. And it's like, yeah, like in the 1930s, she would have been competing with Lenny Riefenstahl

and like Marlene Dietrich for roles. She looks like the rad femme Hitler, Avie like hyperborean, yeah. Alien. Like hyperborean, alpine witch. Yeah, and they're basically, yeah, and they're they're basically yeah, like out there conducting police raids on people who post racist memes like confiscating their phones, laptops, etc. That's crazy racist right wing Kirok Issa on Twitter. I really love that girl's Twitter because she's like super hot and like a female gooner but also is like emerging as a really powerful commentator

on the ills of immigration in Europe. I came for her Aryan beauty and stayed for the immigration takes and she was pointing out that they specifically crack down on humor. Yeah. Like they're policing memes. Right. Like they, I mean, I'm sure they have, you know, other things in those files. Yeah. But the memes are the most like shocking because it's like, yeah, it's utilizing the shock value to, it's kind of like a part of what meme culture is. It's like shocking, it's always transgressive little picture. At one point he, there's like someone posted a picture of like a chick wearing lingerie with a Nazi armband. Yeah, like an old timey photograph

and he's like pointing to this lost arm band. And like this was like standard fare on Tumblr. I know. Like 10 years ago, 15 years ago, people were posting like, you know, Balkan war fascists that like, but with a little sex like, and like you guys don't have stuff like this at Burgheim.

I know. I know, but that's the other big irony because they'll like go to a sex club and get pissed on by random strangers, but then like arrest and execute people for shitposting. They're so sick, dude. And it does have like, yeah, like an underlying psychosexual frisson to it.

Like there's some like erotic jouissance in like nabbing weird random losers. actual frisson to it. Like there's some like erotic jouissance in like nabbing weird random losers. And I'm sure for shitposting, and I'm sure like some of their archive of like wrong think does have like serious crimes in it. Like there are probably like fringe radical racist right-wing groups.

Well, they cite this guy Walter Lupka who was assassinated. And a clip of him went viral where he was pro-immigration basically. And so then when they're talking to the trio of like born bureaucrats. Yeah, they are explaining how he was harassed for years and then assassinated. But I was a little... you know, if four years went by of like popular sentiment being really against this guy, it's not really like the internet thought crimes that are like led to it.

Yeah, I would even say that like, shitposting and memes are literally a pressure valve that prevent people from allowing it to spill over into real violence. Totally, and of course there will always be, I mean, with school shooters now, the modern school shooter has a whole dossier of like 4chan-ish activity and like their grippers and stuff. But that's just like a feature of modernity.

And for the most part, yeah, like the shit posting is productive. I mean, the Germans should really know about shit since they love it so much. And they understand that, you know, maybe they don't, that like shit posting shit isn't like it needs to be like expelled from the body. Yeah.

The mind, the soul. Mucked around. Like it's waste and it has to go somewhere. You can't like save it up. Yeah. And then let it out at like a diarrhea orgy or whatever. But maybe you can, I don't know. I'm not German. I'm not Germanic.

I hate them. I have a soft spot for them because I think their sense of humor does exist and it's somewhat underrated. It's a little dry but they all have that like Philip Seymour Hoffman as every character he ever played like tight little laugh or like oh. I'm sure that they have some minor percentage of people

that are on their watch lists and monitored by their task forces that are like actually like dangerous radical right wing terrorists but it's like the me too thing of like inflating the meaning of sex crime to mean anything under the sun because it really erodes the credibility of their concerns. Yeah, and seems like a massive waste of time and resources. I know, I know, but I really kind of clear-pilled myself

on this, not even recently, years ago, because I was like, oh like whenever you see bureaucratic waste That is a livelihood for someone. It's essential for someone. I Mean I've been You know, I'm I'm trying to stop construction On this high-rise That I've mentioned on the show before. Fully dox myself now I don't even care. Because I think

raising awareness about this high rises. More important. Yeah. Yeah, and I went to like a community board meeting where like low-level politicians, like so many gay, weird gay guys. It's like disgruntled neighbors of mine who, you know, have grievances, who want to, a lot of them are older, so they have time to be involved in local politics and stuff. But then all of the government staffers are gay guys in short pants, who come up and say, "'Congressman blah blah blah is working really hard.'"

And some old person is like, he's on Twitter too much. And they just want their concerns to be heard and then they get the fucking run around from the Department of Buildings who I was gonna call almost every day and file complaints, get an email back that says, oh, actually send this to this email, I do that.

Like I'm, people who go to community board meetings are like at the end of their rope. Yeah. They all suffer from Lyme's disease. They don't have anything left to lose. Like they are, I like, I was like, I have to do something. I can't, just the noise, I'm sleep deprived. I'm manic, I'm PMSing.

I love my building, which is a historic landmark, by the way. Yeah. Well, yeah, nothing gets you more involved in politics than when politics finally start to concern you. Yeah, I'm like, I need to enact change I need to I need to like run for fucking like city council I need I need to kind of like I need I was wondering recently why gay guys are so attracted to politics

because you would think that it would be like the last thing they'd be interested in because it's like boring, it's inefficient, it's unesthetic. There's really nothing there for gay guys, but like actually boy was I wrong, because the thing that gay guys love more than aesthetics and partying is being sinister court eunuchs who spread gossip and ruin other people's lives.

And politics is perfect for that. There are a lot of sinister homosexuals in politics and especially since the AIDS epidemic, you know. Yeah. I kind of weeded out a lot of the transgression and the cool, was it Fran Lebowitz? Who said the best gay people died? So now we have these kind of like,

yeah, like boot looking corporate gays who, cause yeah, it's not glamorous. You're in some like shitty building, the wifi doesn't work. You're drinking like Dasani water. Not even. No, there's no water. You're like listening to a lady who like works for the mayor on a Zoom call and it's like glitching and you're trying to

like understand. you're trying to like understand. I forget why I segued into that. Oh, just bureaucracy. I'm getting the run around. I'm not achieved, like my complaints aren't being heard by bureaucrats who are like passing the buck, bucking me over. They go, they say they're checking the inspection. I'm not gonna get into it.

Let's just say it's not a safe work site. And there's a lot of like hypocrisy and lies and corruption. And the Jews are to blame. Well, the architect is Israeli and he tried to build another. So this building, there's an empty, there's like a crack house next to my apartment that they tore down, then it was an empty lot for a while.

It's 47 feet wide and he wants to build a skyscraper that's like 500 feet tall. That's gonna tower over the Nigerian embassy. It's gonna be a big, huge, pencil dick, tiny, skinny tower. It's so fucking stupid. And he tried to do the same thing on 8th Avenue. He tried to build something called the Torch that was gonna have a roller coaster.

And the architects are so stupid. They like make their little doodles and then ruin people's fucking lives and observatory deck, whatever, and then. And they don't actually build anything. No, and then. And everything they build is a godless, like designed by committee, inhumane monstrosity.

They build glass boxes. They build pods for you to live in. Airport terminals. To eat bugs in. It's so horrible. And they... It's easy to hate journalists, but do you have the courage to hate architects?

I'm pivoting. It's just the dumbest idea. It's not, it's anyway, yeah. The last year they like stopped construction on the torch and now it's just like an empty lot. And it's gonna stay that way for a really long time but with like lots of like drilling and construction that'll like drive everybody mad.

And wear down your morale. I feel like the Joker. It's Kafkaesque. I feel like the Joker. It's Kafkaesque. Dude, that's Kafkaesque. I'm like going nuts. The Dasha runs for city office arc. No, no, I don't want to. I want to be a day trader.

I know. But Aaron Chen has other plans. Mm-hmm, wait, who's Aaron Chen has other plans. Wait, who's Aaron Chen? He's the architect's name. Why does he have a Chinese name? I don't know. One of those things, his grandparents, he's from Israel.

His grandparents are Holocaust survivors. But I'm willing to bet money, thank God I'm out in Germany, that they left, they weren't in a concentration camp. You're not, the way Israelis throw around Holocaust survivors. It's like a curb episode. It's like, am I a Holocaust survivor? Cause I was in Belarus.

Yeah. Because technically, you know, everyone who's alive today is a Holocaust survivor. Survive the Holocaust. And they steal stealing Holocaust valor. Yeah. To say that everyone who's genetic line persevered throughout that era. They probably they're Zionists. They probably been in Israel before long before World War II. Did you see that story? I think it was out of Florida about the Ashkenazi Jew who stabbed two Mizrahi Jews in the street

and sent them to the hospital. They both survived because he thought they were Palestinians. I know, wait, where? It was like all over Twitter. It's so funny. But where did this happen? Somewhere in Miami, I think.

What? I'm not say, yeah. I'm not 100% sure. We need some fact checkers. We need like a hate aid type org to confirm or deny my claims. But that was so funny because it was literally like a perfect like nutshell description of the conflict itself.

Like no analogy or metaphor needed. Just sand tribes going head to head. They're all kind of genetically similar. We're all forced to care about it. Oh yeah, what I wanted to say was that, yeah, like. Hold on one second. Yeah. I'm gonna, I think my vape's in my coat pocket.

No, no. I'll be right back. But don't forget what you were gonna say I'm back. That was quick I really always do feel like such a kids in the hall hooker when we record the podcast because it's just like us like standing on A corner freezing the conditions aren't good. It's uncomfortable. There's too much clutter. Yeah. What I wanted to say was that this is all happening against a backdrop of rising crime rates in Europe because of unchecked, unlimited immigration.

Well, yeah. And yeah, it's a problem that the German authorities, specifically the European authorities in general, refuse to do anything about. And like we joke about making Hitler jokes and how it'll like land you in jail or whatever. But I think the reason that organizations like Hate Aid, which we're just learning about, Prosper, has less to do with the shameful legacy

of Hitler and Nazism, and has more to do with a desire on the part of the so-called elites and their bureaucrats to kind of curb or repress organic anger and frustration over these immigration policies. It's not really about swastikas and Hitler memes. Yeah. It's about like anti-Islamic sentiment.

Boris Pistorius. Who's that? He's the Minister of Defense in Germany. And when Vance spoke in Munich about basically that it was the EU that was a threat to democratic values. He was like, this is unacceptable. He was like-

Was he the guy who cried? No, that was a different guy. But he didn't really cry because of Vance. He was, that's a little bit of misinformation. Oh, I know. Good to know. Because I was like, what was I crying about? But he was like his last day as chair of chancellor.

OK, so he was having. Because I was wondering why they everybody embraced him so heartily. Yeah, it's because he was like imminently resigning or something. But yeah, Boris Pistorius was pissed. A lot of people are. Nominal determinism strikes again.

And he does look, he's like, I'm like, oh yeah, of course. This guy is pissed. Boring, Pistofferson. But yeah, like everybody like understandably focuses on the fact that all, not all, but most of the immigrants coming into Europe are from mostly non-Western Muslim countries with more or less incompatible values who refuse to assimilate. But I feel like a thing that people don't focus on as much is obviously that also the majority of them are young men.

So these guys are like alone and unmoored in a foreign land. They're angry, they're angsty, they're horny. They have their own networks of like Uber Eats delivery and low level crime. And of course, it's going to bubble over into violence. Why is it man? I don't know. That's a good question. I actually like, because the the stated rationale

for the immigration is that there are refugees seeking amnesty, but obviously these are young, able-bodied males in search of economic opportunity. Right, if the former was the case, wouldn't women and children be prioritized? Yeah, exactly, yeah. There was- It just defies logic, and I know it's cause like Soros is doing it

for some reason, but I can't under, I don't understand why. Yeah. And so, you know, they're, they come to the West and they're surrounded by women and girls who, you know, move about freely and talk openly and are dressed more suggestively than they're used to. They covet and desire them, but they don't respect them. They can't handle Addison Rae. move about freely and talk openly and are dressed more suggestively than they're used to. They covet and desire them, but they don't respect them.

They can't handle Addison Rae. Yeah, so they don't have stuff like that over there. They come to this country where Addison Rae is out there. Yeah, like showing her midsection and inner thighs and they're like confused and bewildered and driven to violent rage. She's so sexy. I know. I literally had like, I was like, if I...

I'm not bisexual, you know, I'm not, but I was like, imagine having sex with her. You know, imagine being a guy imagine having sex with her. Imagine being a guy and having sex with her. She'd be all funny and squirrely. And like, she's so flexible and cool and sexy. He is just dope. Like, oh. Yeah, if I woke up as a man, I would try, go on a mission. I would try my hardest.

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She's gorgeous. Yeah, she's really cute. We love Addison Rae. I love Addison Rae. And her overexposed midsection. I love all the paparazzi shots of her filling the tank in LA wearing some totally incomprehensible outfit. Well she's doing yeah kind of like she's referencing Britney's for a lot in her new music video as well she's like but in a way that is I find to be fresh.

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I know it's fine. I don't care. The migrants and the Western women. Someone was saying on X the other day that feminists are suspiciously silent about the sex crimes being brought to Western Europe through third world migration. Given the huge number of feminists

throughout academia, media, politics, it's surprising that so little is heard about this. That's not entirely true. They do make a big fuss about like rape culture and sex crime, but they do it by kind of condemning men in general and making it a problem of the patriarchy. They're completely blind, obviously to like the cultural or ethnic angle, because it doesn't gel with the idea of the progressive stack or whatever. And reality.

Someone's doing the raving. They refuse to acknowledge that it's a culturally bound phenomenon. Somebody else made a good point. The crazy thing is that it's doubly anti-women. It's anti-Western women because of the increased risk of sexual assault. It's anti-non-Western women because of sexual assault. It's anti non Western women Because the asylum system mainly aids men not women why Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe somebody can answer it. I mean is it like I'm the ask I mean in good faith like is it like a breadwinner kind of thing Yeah, I mean, maybe the presumption is that they're sending money back. Like my dad came here first. Right, mine did too. Yeah. And but I don't know. I mean, they do come from cultures

where women just have less opportunity and mobility. I know. But if we're what's all the USA, you know, like I thought we were supposed to if if like the goal of all this like globalized policy, immigration policy is under the guise of like aiding refugees, then shouldn't these like NGOs, quote, end in quotes, like shouldn't they be allocating resources to helping vulnerable people? Yeah, right. Instead of like dangerous people.

Yeah, that's a good question that I cannot answer on this podcast. Yeah, I don't. But yeah, I was gonna say something bad Yeah, I don't. But yeah, I was going to say something bad, but I won't. But yeah, no, it's not just sex crime. Because last week that there was that motor attack in Munich where like a 24 year old Afghan asylum seeker slammed his car into a trade union demonstration and killed a 37 year old mother and her two year old daughter. And then immediately after there was like another Islamist attack, this time a stabbing in Austria where another 20 something Afghan asylum

seeker killed a 14 year old boy. And like I said, I'm not surprised that these like young Muslim men who are coming to the West are literally having schizophrenic breaks when they touch down from the culture clash. But yeah, like I think JD Vance even referenced it in his Munich remarks. Yeah, that's what Boris Pistorius is. Yeah. was fist of all. Yeah, and it like that kind of spurred all sorts of like teary condemnations and disapproving glances.

I thought that he I mean, I love JD Vance because he's so like a Rizzless and he constantly flubs his lines and like doesn't know how to read off the teleprompter yet, which is very relatable. And he does this thing where he'll recount an anecdote that he could just turn into a joke, but he'll be like, yeah, so I met this commissioner backstage and I made a joke to him about how when we were here last time, we had different jobs,

which is like A, not funny and B, only a point of curiosity for him. He could streamline that. Yeah, and just make the joke. Yeah. But I thought it was really good how he kind of pivoted and was like, when we talk about security, typically we're worried about external threats

coming from countries like Russia and China but this time I want to talk to you about the threat from within how Europe has retreated from our common values that was good no powerful well done the poster as you pointed out yeah he's an elder millennial and that's just his truth. He said everything from Ukraine policy to digital censorship is built as a defense of democracy and it's done in the name of our shared democratic values. And like, I think that the reason that the reaction was so strong and so negative was because they know that if they allowed actual democracy to flourish

in the sense of letting people or making people feel comfortable to express their honest political opinions, it would not yield the results they wanted. Because it would be a bunch of people being like, hey guys, this has gone too far. Let's reel it in. Well, he's also said almost one in five people living in this country moved here from abroad. That is of course an all time high.

It's a similar number by the way, the United States, also an all-time high. And we know the situation is materialized out of a vacuum. It is the result of a series of conscious decisions made by politicians all over the continent and others across the world over a span of a decade. We saw the horror wrought yesterday by these decisions in this very city," he said, referring to the attack. How many times must we suffer these appalling setbacks before we change course and take our shared civilization in a new direction? Yeah and he's like he's right about that which people will accuse him of like racial dog whistling but it needn't be a racial issue at all and he's not it's doesn't even it's not even a dog was so

he said agree or disagree they voted for it and more and more all over Europe they're voting for political leaders who promise an end to out-of-control integration. Well yeah all these like NGO operatrix want to make you think that the kind of right-wing wave is due to an excess of freedom, which is like the spookiest phrase I've ever heard. Yeah, the Holocaust was called caused by weaponized free speech. That because that Hitler rose to power because of free speech. our roast of power because of free speech. And this is like a, you know, adult, like, you know, this isn't like a teenager on TikTok.

I know. This is like an adult person. Yeah, and it's like a two prong thing because people are angered and frustrated from watching their communities change rapidly and become unrecognizable, feeling like they're like strangers in their own country, but also it's like insult to injury.

They're insulted by the fact that the politicians and the bureaucrats keep lying and gaslighting them. In Germany, I almost feel like they're not they believe it. Yeah, you do get that impression a little bit. Like I don't think they're cynical. Yeah, that's true. I think they have like a totally earnest again, very like Nazi, temperament that's is reflected in their culture. Yeah. That's true. You You know, and they've got the massive guilt trip of World War II and stuff. And so they're totally like beholden to Zog. But in like a weirdly authoritarian and frankly kind of Nazi way.

Yeah. They're the real Nazis. The guy pointing to a picture of a swastika armband. I know. A woman wearing lingerie that someone posted online that he printed out and put in a folder. That's like a Nazi. It's like an art house fashion shoot. But yeah, obviously like the proliferation of like racist memes and racist language will continue until morale improves. It'll get worse. I mean, I did the I was like, I mean, I did the I was like, I am a free speech absolutist. Just like Glenn Greenwald.

We're twinims in that way. But like the devil's advocate, right, like the case to be made that like we need a standard or like a boundary of civility in which real like that that's a more meaningful kind of like freedom of speech. Yeah. Because right people aren't like scared by the most aggressive and threatening voices yeah because we have shared cultural norms and values that express themselves in the form of a social contract and we all agree to adhere to it but that's not possible when it's like that social needs in quote the david sacks retweeted that like when you know they're lying to you when you know they're lying to you, and they

know they're lying to you, it's like, you know, when you're politicians and they're appointed apparatchiks and like the NGO system are repressing your natural inclinations, of course, this is going to continue to mushroom. And I would even make the case that like, memes and shitposting again, are a pressure valve for the darker, more sinister energies that are eventually going to bubble over. And when they do all these like LibTard, Globo, homo people are going to say, Oh, well, that's because again, we've like, openly turned the faucet and let too much free speech escape. Yeah.

Which I don't know how to, I don't even have a good answer for how to combat that because you can't reason with people. Yeah. I mean It's like I've been trying to get an answer out of Matt Iglesias for days weeks now About Like why why are you so up in arms about people? He quote tweeted no he didn't quote tweet, he screen capped a tweet from Amy Therese

where she was like, I don't give a fuck about Africans, why should I care about Africans? I don't have anything to do with them. And it was like, you know, her typical hyperbolic, manic shit posting that she does. It was like on its face an inflammatory and offensive comment designed to get exactly that reaction. But why not have it out with her?

Why screen cap it versus quote tweet it? Why not insult her in person? Yeah, and why? Because you want there to be like a time delay between when you make the post and when she catches on. And you don't wanna give her the opportunity to defend herself. And I'm not, I'm not.

It's not fair to prey on Amy Therese. Well, take her out of the equation even. It could be like anybody making like an ostensibly like racist and sensitive post. I mean, here's the thing about like a non activity is that it should be allowed. It will be a, like I agree that there is a kind of like pressure valve where people are allowed to anonymously,

you know, make declarations or jokes. I think that's okay and should be allowed. Yeah. But then you can't, if you're gonna post anonymously, then you're, there has the part of the social contract is like that we don't give as much credence to your opinion, because you haven't like co-signed it with your identity.

But that's irrelevant to the... Yeah, she's not even a non. She's like out in the open. But I find one of those practices to be more shameful and harmful than the other. I think like saying mean and unpleasant and unflattering things is obviously an invitation to be piled on. Like you're literally kicking the hornet's nest, but there is something like additionally cowardly and undignified about sickening mobs on people at a delay and it's emotional warfare. And nobody seems to wanna admit that's what it is but in recent times in part thanks to the efforts of

JD Vans I think like a critical mass of people is coming around to the fact or they knew all along but felt uncomfortable to say it that this is like emotional terrorism and it was rejected at the ballot box and we won't stand for it. And yeah, no one like snitches. Yeah, I think like snitching, doxxing, that's much more disfavorable than saying something unkind. Repor- yeah, like reprehensible. I combined reprehensible and imporant. Horrible, yeah, like reprehensible. I combined reprehensible and abhorrent. Yeah, like, yes.

The worst thing, show me the worst post. Show me the worst meme that they have in a folder in Germany. And it's still not as bad as like- Yeah, it pales in comparison to anything Matt Iglesias has posted. Cause he's deceitful and subversive and won't ever answer for himself.

And Soviet. And like he also, it's not like he cares about Africans any more than anybody else on X. He doesn't give a shit. Has he personally donated to African charities? Has he adopted an African child? I mean, yeah, it's true. It's a big world out there. And Africa is not really my beat, but maybe one day it could be. And I don't know where he lives.

I'm not gonna talk to him, but like I bet he lives in a nice neighborhood with a good school system, far away from poor people of color. Probably. I take of color. Probably. I take that bet. Yeah. The casino.

The crypto casino. Should we mention Malay? Yeah, what's up with him? He was also shilling a meme coin. He, the same exact thing. The habit of me, He the same exact thing. What happened to me is he didn't really understand what was going on. I was sent. Okay.

So he tweeted on Valentine's Day, just like Ashley Sinclair promoting this meme coin Libra that I actually was sent some of in my crypto scan, which I traded for Dasha coins. Like on February 7th, like a week before, I was like, Libra coin. And Riley's a Libra, love that, love him. You know, but I was like-

Is Malaya Libra? There's a bunch of, it's, there's, I got some, someone sent me some Pisces coin, too. It's. 22 October, yeah, that sounds about right. It's some, it's called Astrofolio, taps into current cultural trends by referencing memes in popular. It's a total rug full scam,

ass coin called Libra that was like, there's the scales, it had some like Libra, Liberté, Argentinian, like there was some like logic. But is it his like proprietary coin? Absolutely not, no, it's a shit coin made by something called Astrophile. Aphorfile. A four-yard file. After he posted, the coin crashed

because everyone pulled their, the major shareholders pulled their money out. Hawk 2 of me, Dave Portnoy, what's happening? What? What? What? And yeah, now he's like, you know, I don't think he'll get impeached. No. But yeah, there's going to be like some lawfare because it is such a psychotic, corrupt and

crazy thing for like the president of a country to do. But I don't think it was the scale of the people, like I'm sure people lost money, but like people know what is going, like. I know. If you know how to buy a meme coin I know I know I hate this like But you're like bamboozling and swindling and scamming people because it's like everybody who trades crypto

Knows what's up. They're trying to bamboozle. Yeah, who buys it after them so that they can Rug-pull them. Yeah, no one in crypto is an innocent, naive, small bean little victim. It's really, the trenches really are, it's a really dark scene. The market will humble you, as Alison kept telling me. Yeah, I was like on my high horse, like I'm gonna take a break from shilling my shit

coin to own some libs. But really it was a sneaky strategy to get more attention. Now you're thinking while pretending while pretending that I was like an honest and principled person. I'm, I'm going to give up trading for Lend. I think I have to. It's obviously gambling is not inherently sinful, but it's not like spiritually edifying.

And it's not about this earth and the profits I can make on the blockchain. You gotta be about profits, not profits. Exactly. I had no idea what you were talking about on the episode where we talked about your coin and I begged and pleaded for someone to make me one. And I was like, yeah,

when you were talking about how it was evil and sinful, I was like, oh, it seems like, you know, maybe like not the most noble, but like overall like normal way of trying to make some like scroll for yourself. But after I started doing it, I was like, oh, this feels bad. Yeah, it feels so dark. And it's like low class. Uh, you know? Yeah. But we don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll keep showing that garbage.

I know. And they're like, now you have to post a selfie or start a feud with someone. And it just doesn't work that way. Not even for moral reasons, but you should only do those things if you feel so inclined. Well, we also just don't under,

people keep telling me that I'm being manipulated and that like, because I don't though I've learned a lot and fast, but not really the fundamentals. And once again, I struggle with like the numbers in general. Yeah. I've fought kind of dyslexia or something. I don't know, it's just not, yeah, I'm not gonna be, you know, so, but my thinking is like,

even if I totally exploited, you know, bottom out, coin destroy my reputation, then I'm the victim. I know exactly, that might be the best outcome. And you can't put a price on it. Because then you can really be like Ashley St. Clair and take to Twitter and cry about how you were like exploited. Maybe people start feeling bad for weaker ones.

Objectified, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I'm holding, you know, I'm holding the coin. I don't have a choice. After Malay's little, you know, stunned, salon is down, market's in a bad place. I'm bullish, I think it has longevity, but it is like,

you know, the ups and downs are not good. I think and you have to have a lot of like fortitude and guard against like demons of greed. You know, you can't be greedy. You can't, if you're not that smart, you can't be greedy. Right. That's a good life lesson in general. So you have to just kind of like, you know, operate with some modicum of like humility and grace. Yeah, which is hard to do for most people, especially for those who are not that smart, but exceptionally greedy. Those two things seem correlated. Right. Should we talk about Ashley St. Claire? Our calendar girl. Remember that? No, no. She did like a Pirelli calendar for conservators or

something. We talked about it on the show. Oh, because it was that redhead Republican lady. Conservative dads, real women of America calendar. And she was the April girl. She got in a bathtub, in a bra, in a pearl necklace. And author and conservative media personality. This bitch doesn't even have a Wikipedia.

I know, I tried to look her up because I wanted to get some data on her childhood and life and stuff. What her name was, where she obviously changed it. Yeah, because everybody was saying, oh, like Ashley St. Clair is Jewish. That means like two out of four, no, three out of four of Elon's baby mamas are Jewish

and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, St. Clair, that doesn't sound Jewish, but I guess she's been married before. Yeah, there's no way. And she's not, yeah, she wrote, she used to write for the Babylon Bee, one of the unfunniest publications. And she's not, yeah, she wrote, she used to write for the Babylon Bee, one of the unfunniest publications.

And has been, her age is also disputed. Yeah. She might be in her 30s. Some outlets say she's in, she's 26. Yeah, she's like Salome. She may or may not be 26. She's like Taylor Lorenz of the right. Her provenance is unknown. And yeah, she wrote a children's book,

which makes you an author, I guess. And much like Glenn Greenwald, she's supposedly a Jew from Florida who grew up poor. That's what she claims. I don't know. So she is Jewish apparently, I don't know and she announced on Valentine's Day that she had a baby and the Elon Musk was the father five months ago. I welcomed a new baby into the world. Elon Musk is the father I have not previously disclosed this to protect our child's privacy and safety But in recent days it has become clear that tabloid media intends to do so,

regardless of the harm it will cause. I intend to allow our child to grow up in a normal and safe environment. For that reason, I ask that the media honor our child's privacy and refrain from invasive bullying. There are so many red flags and so much to unpack. First of all, she did it on Twitter, but with like a pre-choreographed image

versus a normal tweet. First red flag. At the bottom, it includes the name and email of her publicist, red flag number two. Right. Brian Glicklich. She went on to do a photo shoot and give an exclusive interview to

the New York Post. Yeah where she was wearing like a Lauren Sanchez blazer over a bustier like dark Lauren Sanchez outfit and was showing feet. She showed the soles of her feet arches and everything that's people come on. And her like expensive yet weirdly depressing New York apartment that apparently Elon Musk pays for. That's what I wasn't clear about. It's because she claimed that he isolated her during her pregnancy. Yeah, he pays for her apartment. And put her up in this apartment, but is that still the apartment she currently lives in? I'm assuming.

And she said also, so yeah, so she did this photo shoot and interview with the post. Women love doing photo shoots. I know. Where she, let me find it. While you're doing that, I'm gonna read the bio of her publicist. He's the CEO of Digital Strategy Limited, an expert authority and regular broadcast

and print commentator on crisis and strategic communications management. Digital Strategy is a Las Vegas and Los Angeles based bespoke consultancy and high impact strategic and crisis communications. Apparently he has some shadowy Israeli ties, like they paid him half a million dollars for to do damage control on some or other crisis.

She claimed she did it because the media was threatening to dox her baby, so she was merely trying to get ahead of the controversy and take control of the narrative. just merely trying to get ahead of the controversy and take control of the narrative. And yeah, I'm sorry. Nick Fuentes is 100% right. Yeah, no one's gonna dox. Okay, so this is pertinent.

So in the New York Post, she said, "'It's very hard to understate "'how much I'm processing right now. "'I'm sad that my hand was forced by the media "'to do this now. "'But there is also a sense of relief "'because I've been forced to live in secrecy "'for almost a year of my life. "'Almost every relationship of my life

"'would be bastardized and disingenuous "'because I couldn't tell them what was going on. "'My son has never taken a walk outside in five months.. I have never been able to take my baby for a walk I was terrified that someone would see I had a baby and it would get out Like that level of dilute like I know Is that Ashley Sinclair with Elon Musk's baby even with that? Wait, doesn't she have a one child who's the older why does she have a young baby famous right wing influencer Ashley Sinclair who doesn't

have a Wikipedia we're gonna see her in the street with a baby and that's gonna that's like Jussie Smollett I know know, I know. You're acting like you're Amrata. There's like paparazzi snapping pics of you. You're crazy. You, yeah, the feet and then also with the chessboard. Which was apparently incorrectly set up. Yeah. Like she thinks she's playing 40 chess, but she's actually getting played.

It's perfect symbolism. She doesn't even know how to set up the board. Or even worse, the people who like organize the photo shoot really did her dirty. They probably don't know how to set up a board either. No nobody does. But yeah it's clear she does not have a chess board. And also like you know I'm the hugest moral fag when it comes to kids but like if you want to take your baby for a walk just throw a blanket over the stroller, no one's gonna like peer into it.

Well, even seeing her with a stroller, I guess, is what she's implying. She's implying that if she was spotted with a baby, because she is so famous, and the rumors would fly, and then it would come out, and the media's prying and blah blah blah. But when you first hear this, when you first hear her rationale when you first hear her rationale,

you're like, yeah, that's so awful. You got this girl, you do you, like do what you have to do. But then you're like, wait a minute, doxing a baby, like what are they doing? And it's not like the baby has like a house or a career or a digital footprint. It's like playing and drooling in a bassinet.

And like, you know, Fuente had that line about how like the baby is like an anon who runs libs of TikTok. Like, what do you mean doxxing the baby? There, it's, as he pointed out, it's like this is understandably an item of interest for the media. And they will understandably want to report on the fact

that two prominent people conceived a child together. They're not doxing the baby. It doesn't add up. No, and no one's like, when you have a real publicist and you're spotted with Louis CK in the village and someone writes about it on Dumois yeah and then tabloids try to reach out to report on it yeah and your publicist just doesn't say anything right and then the story ends up circulating on these like shady, you know,

news outlets and have no credibility. It's like letting your meme coin die. You just let it taper out. You don't. It's like plain as day. First of all, you can tell the hair color. What do you mean? Well, she has black hair right now. Oh yeah. And she was blonde before. She was very blonde in the real dad's conservative calendar. There's photos of her with her first pregnancy

with more of like a balayage. She just like, it's very BPD and inspires in me mistrust to see, like I don't, I couldn't even really tell you what Ashley Sinclair really looks like, you know? Because there's like- She's like if that E-girl Audrey Horne was also simultaneously Addison Rae.

There's the face, you know, there's like the filtered photographs, the shill post and the, but the range of hair, like no one looks good with that much, that many different hair colors. She hasn't found her season. She doesn't know, like, it's just very- She doesn't know her kibbeh type. It makes her seem really erratic and psycho. Yeah, and when she says, like, I was isolated and alone,

yes, I would believe that there's some truth to that, but what she's really saying is, I was robbed of my opportunities for attention and now I'm reclaiming the attention that I was entitled to and like. Which she's getting, I mean good play I guess, but not really like a good long term strategy. No, I know, I have like so much to say about this.

There is some kind of like weird opportunism at play and like I'm the, like I said, I'm the hugest baby fag in the world, not like those weird dads that you see on Twitter who are like shortlessly holding a surrogate baby, but like I'm a champion of truth and justice for children. Or babies. But like something about this smells funny,

does not add up. Maybe she was mad that Elon wasn't responding to her. Maybe she felt jilted because he wheeled out the other baby mama, Siobhan Zillas. At that like, I don't know what it was. It was like some government It was like some government function that was heavily photographed and reported on by the media. He brought the Grimes baby to the Oval Office. Yeah, and like Siobhan Zilas is obviously like the most compliant and least quarrelsome

of the baby mamas other than the first baby mama who's like older and more established. You don't really hear anything about her. She's the one who's like approved by May Musk. Maybe this is all staged in a cover up for something bigger. It does seem a little distracting. Yeah. You know? And like the tabloid flavor of it. And then to see her like tweeting at Musk trying to get, she's like you and Maddie Iglesias.

She's like trying to start it. She's like trying to get him to acknowledge her. She's like, how come you're not replying to me, but you're replying to that other guy who posted photos of me when I was 15 in my underwear? I don't know if that was fake, but I wouldn't put it past her if it was real. Milo's been on a real rampage. He has a lot of information.

He's the equivalent to me of like, He's the equivalent to me of like the doctors and like online hate task force bureaucrats. Yeah. It's like, why do you have? Why do you care? Why do you have all this? You have like Facebook posts from a long, you have a dossier on this person. Like in a story where everyone's kind of a loser, you come out as the biggest loser and you have nothing to do with it.

I don't really get Milo because he's so like... Well, you said it earlier about gay guys who go into politics. That's true. You know, that's a particular type. That is true. And it's really like a spiritual... Malady.

No, I don't really get it because, you know, like I said, I get very angry on his behalf for how he was canceled. But okay. But I'm starting to think that it would have happened anyway, no matter what, because like- And what was he canceled from? Bright Bar?

Like what did he- No was he was canceled very unfairly and opportunistically over his pedophilia remarks and his book was dropped. And he lost a lot of money because there's a lot of evidence that it would have been like a bestseller possibly. And so I get where he's coming from. But on the other hand, like, I don't understand why he intervenes in the follies of other people when the strategy should always be to sit back and undo themselves. Like, why get your hands dirty?

What's your psychosexual jihad in all of this? Oh, gay guys love to be messy. Yeah, but it's like, you know, he has considerable intellect sure and charisma and i just want to hit him with like that NAACP um line a mind is a terrible thing to waste but it's a character issue yeah like why go out of your way isn't? You can have all the brains, but if you don't have like the fortitude. Yeah, and there's like all this stuff coming out that he's, you know, partly involved in like uncovering

like Ashley St. Clair's sordid past as sex laptop and how she was like begging for big black cock. Was that her? I didn't even know who that was. Allegedly. Well, he, right, so he posted a photo of a phone with a tweet on it from 2020, on it from 2020, where Ashley Sinclair said,

I need to get Elon Musk attention for a marriage proposal. And some Greg Price responded, he's got a kid with a woman already, seems unlikely to work out. And she said, well, he has seven kids and goes through and went pretty fast laughing, crying, emoji. And that's what Elon Musk responded to with just, whoa. And then she said, Elon, we have been trying to communicate

for the past several days and you have not responded. When are you going to reply to us instead of publicly responding to smears from an individual who just posted photos of me in underwear at 15 years old? It's interesting that Elon is responding to this clearly unjust screenshot that was discussed with his team months ago

in a documented call. Now he decides to respond to it publicly from an account that posted underage photos of me as if he wasn't asking me to have more children last week. I would like to take this offline for a child's sake. Oh, that's the, I bet there's not even a baby. I know, I know that's what I was like. Well, that's the other question.

It's like, did they even have sex? Probably not. Is there even a baby? And I have a theory that they probably. I want the doxed baby. You know what, now I have questions. We're gonna dox the baby. Now I have questions and I want the baby doxed.

They probably knocked boots a couple of times, but then they conceived the baby. IVF IVF and maybe through a surrogate. Who knows? Right. Because she went on triggered. Yeah. And yeah, there's a ton of receipts of her like untriggered, posing with the back, not living in isolation, not looking pregnant. Yeah. And, you know, by the way, as a formerly pregnant woman,

I will say that it's very easy to conceal a pregnancy pretty much up until the bitter end, like maybe eight months, like that photo of me in the ISIS shirt, sitting on the floor drinking the Diet Coke, eight months pregnant. Amazing. Very easy to hide it.

But she's not wearing a baggy tee. She's not, she's not doing a frumpy look. No, she's wearing like fitted blazers or like off the shoulder sweaters or whatever. Yeah, I don't know. It all seems like super shady and staged. It's not adding up. Yeah.

And it does seem like a distraction potentially. If I really had to put my tinfoil cap on. Yeah, yeah. And like- I really had to think conspiratorially. I'd be like, oh, there, Elon's got some other shit going on. Yeah, and like the- And really had to think conspiratorially, I'd be like, oh, there, Elon's got some other shit going on. And like, he knows that this is going to like, be because he's obviously, you know, he owns the platform and controls the algorithm that like, and he's like forcing his baby mamas to like lash out against him on the platform he owns.

Who knows? Like, I don't think that's necessarily the case, but I think that he's like, he's a step ahead. Yeah, and like, I don't, you know, why would anybody ever agree to this arrangement? Like I understand all the people who are being like, sympathetic to her or grieved on her behalf, but like I don't really buy any of the arguments

that have been offered to explain it. The ones that I see people giving are like, oh, well, she's gonna be set for life and think of the gene pool. And it's like, first of all, we all know that intelligence in general is heritable, but genius is probably not hereditary in general is heritable, but like genius is probably not hereditary since it's a random fluke.

And like, what's the point of having good genes if your life is already ruined by like retard squabbling on the internet before you even gain sentience? Well, Elon doesn't have good genes. I mean, they probably have access to some special technology where you can isolate good genes, blah, blah, blah. Well, that's mortally sinful.

And then the financial angle, I don't really understand that either when they're like, oh, well, she's just getting the bag and setting herself up for life because it doesn't seem like fun or fulfilling to be financially chained to like the world's richest man who you don't get along with and who will punish you just because he

can. Like it doesn't seem like a nice positive stress-free lifestyle to be constantly fighting for your bag. It's almost not worth it. I mean, maybe like she's more, maybe she does know how to set up the chessboard and is a little more Machiavellian than we give her credit for. I doubt it, you know, just considering her kind of like floppy career and prospects generally.

Maybe this was, if she grew up poor, then she's got poverty mindset. And that when you're precarious, that's when you are, that does seem, your judgment's clouded. And that does seem like the best scenario. It's just like, okay, I'll get I'll play ball, whatever. She'll get child support regardless.

Yeah, but it's going to be like eeked out like tooth and claw. I don't know. It seems like a miserable existence. And I was thinking like, oh, like he's probably already given her a handsome like, yeah, to like stay silent which is by the way the thing that she's voluntarily signed up for it like sometimes I think like man going on the computer and like fighting with Matt Iglesias and shilling a meme coin is so undignified and then I remember that there are like

conservatard influencers doing Maury Povich type, like paternity shit in full view of everyone else on Twitter. It's crazy. It's crazy. I know. There's like all these conservatives lining up to congratulate her who are normally really like hateful and critical of this stuff.

They all have the conservative dad's calendar. They got the MAGA fake beer calendar. So they've formed an attachment to Ashley Sinclair. That's true, they have a parasocial, she should come out with a coin. Then like to defend her a little, there's all these haters that are mad at her because this isn't trad They're like, oh like you have multiple babies out of wedlock with different men you whore

This is a bad example for normies to emulate And like I don't care so much about Ashley St. Clair But like let's be real like the normal rules don't care so much about Ashley St. Clair, but let's be real, the normal rules don't apply to exceptional people. And I've never heard of her before this. Yeah. Even a little bit. I have, cause she randomly follows me. She might follow you.

So I guess we've alienated her now. Well, come on the pod. But people who are rich and exceptional like don't have to follow, they don't have to subscribe to your gay little rules for life or your gay little rules for like fashion or self presentation.

Like people were bashing her again for being like a single mom and having kids out of wedlock. Yeah, but she is by virtue of having a kid with the world's richest man. Like she just is. You don't have to like, like her respect her or anything. But as she made it out the hood. Yeah, but that's not enough. I don't think that makes you, you know, sure.

But like, I think what makes you exceptional is like you. Deciding that you're going to buck the trends and not agree to the rules. She's not like a poor single mom in the hood who is kind of symbolic of the trend line. She is outside of the trend line. Well, she wasn't, and she wasn't positioning herself as a trad influence. She's sort of this kind of midwit thing. Her whole pedigree as an author and conservative media personality is already,

that's like sub TikTok. That sucks. But she's, there are no nice normal middle-class people who are gonna try to imitate her example. No, no one's gonna recognize her in the street with a baby and wonder. First of all, also because she's like unrecognizable. She has like, of course, she,

in addition to the like changing hair colors, maybe that's why, cause she's disguising herself. But like, yeah, she's not like, you can't tell really what she looks like or recognize her. I could see her tomorrow in the street and would not. Yeah. Like, is that Ashley Sinclair? Yeah.

Like, I would walk past her and not, you know, she doesn't have distinctive markings. She looks extremely generic. Her online presentation, which is clearly very curated, is, you know, she's not famous. No, I know, but I'm just saying, the argument shouldn't be that she fucked her way to the top and that this is a bad example for women everywhere,

because she's kind of an outlaw in that regard. And she's irrelevant, she's, you know, no one's following her example. Not because she's so positively exceptional, but yes, because like she's like a random outlier. Nobody cares. She had a baby with the world's richest man who has 13 children. With four baby mamas.

Four baby mamas is clearly also like eugenics tip, like any, like he's, if the egg donor was, you know, the criteria, he didn't pregnant them. As Bab said, like, I knew you were into African men, but I didn't expect you to get your African baby this way. She's a bimbo. She's a disreputable.

And I don't think anyone needs to come to her defense nor even really attack her. What I'm saying is I'm a very neutral. The reality is, yeah, it's like, she's like a Babylon Bee Bimbo who like maybe doesn't even have a baby with Elon Musk. And if she does, it was possibly conceiving a surrogate. All of that's extremely creepy. Yeah, it's not normal. I guess that's what I. It's not normal.

I guess that's what I mean by exceptional. It's not like she's like, right, you know, a great. She didn't have an unplanned pregnant woman of history or anything like that. But yes, she's an unusual case. For sure. And so I don't really care about all the trads whining about how she's like a bad example or but it is repulsive to drop this bombshell on Valentine's Day and pretend it's about the safety and welfare of your baby when you're actually putting your vanity and your needs ahead of the needs of your child.

In the New York Post, she also said, she said the mother-child duo have met some of Musk's other 12 children but not their mothers. They have spent time with Musk's mother Mae, though she didn't know about the pregnancy. St. Clair asked to keep the baby's name a secret but revealed that they are happy and healthy. She went on to say, I am a good mom. That's what drives most of my decisions.

And my kids are my whole world. I mean, I believe her. The lie detector has determined that was a lie. Yeah, this has been fact-checked by Patriots. Let's take this to more republish and that is a lie. You're absolutely not. If you, I mean, this is not necessarily even bad You're absolutely not. If you I mean, this is not necessarily even bad for her baby, though her baby's doomed,

of course. But she she entered this very questionable arrangement voluntarily. I mean, maybe maybe maybe they did randomly have sex and she randomly got pregnant and it's, you know, but like, maybe, but it's, it's very cruel to your children. Both of them to behave in that way. clearly on this tip. So why would he deny it? Which he hasn't done or like why you know like the way he hasn't confirmed the way he doesn't really engage at all is very also it's so mysterious it just makes it really seem like I don't know I mean assuming the baby exists and it's his he's probably kind of pissed off at her

right now for blowing up his spot but why who care at this point who cares that's the thing there was an art there's a piece in the free press that I read about how using the Ashley Sinclair Elon example as indicative of like a shift in what like a moral majority was that like Reagan, Bush were, you know, sort of sustained by an electoral body of the so-called like moral majority, which is driven by like evangelical Christian rhetoric about, you know, a return to kind of like traditional values and like the current GOP with, you know, Trump himself being thrice divorced,

Elon Musk being a very prominent figure in the Trump cabinet being like a kind of, that this is very like immoral, but that the shift has been in the moral majority has been like people are less interested in what people do in their private lives. Yeah, which is a good thing. Yeah.

Yeah. What affects them like publicly, like, you know, like. We have not only our most liberal, but our blackest administration to date. Yeah. And yeah, it turns out that people don't really care about the details of people's sordid private lives outside of like the realm of like gossiping and theorizing about it.

Yeah. As long as the politics are moving in the direction that they want. Well that there's like, right, or that like politics address more public issues. Yeah. Such as like crime and the economy, people, right? Or like, you know, drug addiction, et cetera. Yeah. Rather than like politics necessarily, like policing like the moral lives of individuals.

Yeah. And if you, if you really wanted to be like an annoying conspiracy theorist about it, I guess you could say that like, this like bombshell comes at a very conspicuous time and is designed to make Elon look bad and not credible. But I don't even think that that's what's going on. I don't think that's what's going on at all. I think it makes him look good or like not were not bad. Certainly not bad.

Yeah. In any way that matters because there isn't like really a constituent, a constituency. Excuse me. Pardon me. There isn't like a moral majority constituency that really cares. Yeah. That like it would matter, that this is not the most traddice, whatever, that's an old paradigm that doesn't matter anymore. But I do think it's probably, there's something that like, he owns X. So if he really wanted to,

he could just like shadow ban her or, you know, this wouldn't be a story because it depends on X to like proliferate it. And that's not even like- It's really a story about excess freedom. But yeah, he has so much control and power. I don't think this would even be a news item if he didn't want it to be.

I don't think she has like randomly gone rogue. If I had to, I don't know. Maybe he was like, he knows it would be, I don't end up being sort of like ruinous for her. And that he's protected in some way. Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't like, you know. Yeah, I think like, just like she comes out looking pretty bad in all of this. But maybe that's just like from where I'm sitting and most people don't feel that way and or aren't following the story at all whatsoever.

Well, Andy Warhol presses good press. Yeah. It's, she's, this has like boosted her profile. Yeah. Has given her publicity, which is clearly what she wants. She doesn't want, she doesn't care about the welfare of her children. Yeah, or she does in a weird backhanded way because this means maybe like another book deal

or like a new podcast or something like that. A coin. She can do the media circuit. Everybody wins in the end. Yeah, there's some I don't know what the play is, the exit strategy is or how to stop loss or anything like that. But I do know that, yeah, it's.

The market activity is suspicious. Mm-hmm. I'm like a real sailor girl in this way and I just like go for the Occam's razor explanation. Yeah. Which is like, again, if you assume the baby is real and the baby is his, that they're feuding because she violated some NDA or something and so he's icing her out. And they'll patch things up eventually.

Yeah, I mean, Valentine's Day is... That's crazy. Yeah. With already so much going on in the market. Well, that was really smart because, you know, as men are fond of pointing out Valentine's Day is a Hallmark holiday that's like basically designed to make women mad at their boyfriends and husbands

so that they can buy them gifts and give them attention. I like Valentine's Day. And so it was well played, I do too. Our anniversary is on the 15th. Yeah. So we kind of bundle it. And I had a very nice weekend. Yeah. It sounded great. I had a very nice weekend. Yeah.

It sounded great. I had a really nice romantic weekend and I'm bullish on Valentine's Day. Yeah, it's nice. I mean, I think like. And like February is so dreary. Like why not? Who cares if it's a fake holiday, blah, blah.

Like doesn't go Hallmark, blah. It was like, it doesn't matter. It's like, I know there's nothing to do. It's fucking snowing. Get your girlfriend some flowers and have sex. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's like, there's nothing to do. It's fucking snowing. Get your girlfriend some flowers and have sex. Yeah, it's nice. It's like not the worst idea. Kind of like Trump's plan to buy Gaza and develop it.

Yeah, there's a lot. Into a luxury resort. Excuse me, I'm like losing my voice, but it clearly needs some like neutral third party to come in and arbitrate things for them It clearly needs some like neutral third party to come in and arbitrate things for them and raise their economic profile and quality of life. Get them out of the, like Tim Dillon says, like they can't live underground.

Get them above ground, make them work at the mall. Yep, selling soaps at the kiosk. Build a bear. Yeah, and it's like, you know, we should be so lucky if a similar thing transpired in Armenia, Azerbaijan, if like Russia could step back in and take control. It's not the worst idea. I mean.

Like when you take so many L's, historically and civilizationally, and the situation is so doomed and intractable, why not try something new? I mean just to circle back to the EU. Remember we were talking about Greece earlier and Greece like acquired all this debt. acquired all this debt. And when they became a member of the EU somehow and Merkel like fucked them over really bad and like tanked their fucking economy,

I remember when that happened, I wasn't even like, you know, this was even like, this was pretty Bernie. I was like, really, I wasn't like, really politically engaged at all. But like I randomly woke up at 5 a.m., like a cold sweat, and I was looking at my phone and was like, what, what the fuck? The EU fucked Greece overall really bad?

And I had this really bad feeling. It seemed so wrong, because I've never been to Greece, but I've always had a really fondness for it. It has a lot of karmic, whatever you want to call it. It doesn't seem... Has a historical aura. Yeah, I just was like, it seems bad. There's something like doomed that's gonna play out. This is like- And it did.

And it has, yeah. But like, that's like kind of what, you know, Greece is sustained largely by a tourist economy. It's doing okay because the Greeks are well suited to a leisure and lifestyle. And they're being propped up by the EU like weekend at Bernie's style. But it's not. I don't know. There's something that feels like wrong about the way things

have played out in Europe. Yeah. Like to intervene in the affairs of sovereign countries and make them like client states. And make them indebted to you so that your elites can like vacation there. Like flood them with unchecked immigration. Do you think Bianca, Sonsori and Konya are really getting divorced? I don't know.

That seems like another op. I think that's fake. I don't know that seems like another op. I think that's fake. I don't buy it. Yeah she's like an Israeli intelligence asset. Who among us is that? But the story is after her like Grammy after they were ousted from the Grammys and she was more naked than ever. Yeah even though she's already been so naked, it like doesn't even register to me as like, it doesn't even feel pornographic or scandalous because it's been such a long, you know, we're so desensitized.

And then after Kanye's like, I love Hitler Twitter rampage. After they cruelly canceled my order on Valentine's Day. Oh, man. And he's going through he's going through like a more high profile version of our Shopify saga. I know. She was like, it was before they halted, she's like, why isn't Shopify stopping this up when they fucked us over on the ISIS shirts? And I was like, wow.

They're freezing your assets or debanking you. I was like, they did let us sell out of the ISIS shirts before they de-platformed us. So they have have been, they have a record of trying to get their bag. And I was like, it's a different time. There won't be as much, you know, backlash maybe to the Swastika t-shirt.

Yeah. Which makes us getting in trouble for the ISIS t-shirt, which, you know, but he, I can't tell, but he he nobody will make the t-shirt for him. Yeah. It's like those stories about how like a family walks into Walmart and they're like can you make a birthday cake for my son Adolf Hitler Jones? He's turning two.

He's turning two. But yeah, apparently, Bianca's had enough after the Hitler stuff. I don't think that's the case. She's clearly ride or die. It doesn't make sense. And I don't buy it. More will be revealed. I also don't really care if they get divorced because

I feel like not most, but many marriages end in divorce and surely most relationships end up in failure. I think about half. And they're also like exceptional outliers so the ordinary rules don't really apply to them. Yeah, it's true. So I have no dog in the fight. I guess we won't be seeing her like big gnats on the red carpet anytime soon if they get

divorced but that's also fine with me. We've seen them plenty of times. And at some point when you like over saturate the market, exactly, there's like a law of diminishing returns and no one cares anymore. That is, yep. Now they're in the crypto space. Yeah, which is sad because like women with like exceptional proportions Now they're in the crypto space.

Yeah, which is sad because like women with like exceptional proportions aren't that special. They're devalued their stock is down. Yeah, that's true. But well, she's augmented. Of course. I don't think, I think her, I don't think she has breast implants maybe, but like surgical interventions. Yeah.

You know, he's obviously like crafted her like, Yeah, totally. To look and you know. But he's an artist, so he understands like the concept of negative space. So instead of augmenting her breasts, he augmented her waistline to make the breasts look bigger. Exactly. He's an artist like you. I'm sorry. Bianca is like what I imagine Amy Therese would be

if she wasn't a racist right wing shit poster and married a black rapper. Well, she had a black investment in her boyfriend. So she has an appetite for it. My question is, who's going to be the next Elon Musk baby mama? Because there will be more people were betting on like Maloney AOC. Maloney would be interesting.

Yeah. Yeah, I Mean If he's smart they'll be I think He needs to impregnate classy Fred Blassie because she really needs a break right now Yeah, he needs to get her out But she's not his type it can't be bronze-aged shawty cuz that's too obvious She's not because she's already in the crypto space. She's not his type. But like Ashley St. Clair also isn't really his type.

She's Jewish apparently. Which all his baby mamas have people pointed out. That's true. Yeah. He's IQ maxing. And yeah, he's probably doing some like eugenical finesse. It should be a daisy girl because they're notably high IQ.

And he likes that like Grimes and Siobhan actually kind of look alike. Like they're both cute and elfin and have button noses. It should be Sarah Heider. Who's Sarah Heider? The girl that I did the debate with. Oh, yeah, okay. I mean, I'm sure whoever it is is probably already,

who knows how many children Elon Musk has. And he's probably smart enough. He maybe fumbled potentially though. I don't think so again, because he's probably smart enough. Like he maybe fumbled potentially though. I don't think so again, because he's very smart with Sinclair, but like there are probably some random, you know, well, he's without a profile or a publicist who isn't going, you know,

who's not hot off of men, conservative dads, beer calendar, on our fucking high horse. And just living in the woods and doing some woodworking. He's converting to Catholicism over here. He's probably got like, some baby mamas who are more discreet and down to clown. Elon Musk is also in a weird way, like such an archetypal man,

because yeah, he's obviously like very smart and very decisive in terms of effecting certain global political change that he wants to see in the world because they tranced his daughter or whatever, but he's totally hit or miss when it comes to vetting the quality of baby mamas and like whether or not they'll pipe up and make his life a living hell. I would not be surprised if there was no baby. Same. I had that thought.

It was just totally like she's yeah, we're all being set up like, oh, yeah. is just totally like, she's just. Yeah, we're all being set up. Psycho. Yeah. Yeah. Are they're like colluding somehow? There's like a French bulldog in a. In a bassinet.

In a bassinet. You know, she's like. It's like a swaddled French bulldog. Yeah, she's like, when will you, when will you tweet back at me? It's actually Rezeeb Khan's baby. Yeah, the baby are waiting. Yeah.

Well, we can wrap it up. Yeah, I think we've sat enough and alienated everyone yet again. OK, well, buy our crypto coins and hold them for a long time. And we'll see you now. you