Red Scare - Borderline Czar
Episode Date: August 3, 2024The ladies discuss Kamala's brat branding, the Olympics opening ceremony controversy, and Ballerina Farm tradwife profile....
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["All the Things You Said"]
All the things you said, all the things you said
Running through my head, running through my head
Running through my head, running through my head
All the things you said, all the things you said
Running through my head, running through my head
All the things you said, all the things you said
Is not enough
Do we, are we not ready? No, no, I'm ready, I'm ready. I'm ready. Are we back? We're so bad. So over. I think we're mostly back.
Yeah, it's a dialectic.
So true.
What happened?
Joe Biden, the last epitome we recorded, Joe Biden had an amazing performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
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I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance.
I think it was a great performance. I think it was a great performance. I think it was a great performance. I think it was a great performance. I think it was a great performance. So true.
What happened? Joe Biden, the last epitome we recorded,
Joe Biden hadn't dropped out yet, right?
That's a good question, I don't remember.
I think he dropped out shortly thereafter.
It's been like a really wild month.
It's been, yeah, it's a really exciting time
for gay nerds like us.
Yeah, so where he at?
Oh, well, he did a press conference.
He's not dead.
I mean, I'm not totally convinced
that the weird press conference he did
wasn't like AI generated.
Did he sound like his usual self,
which is to say senile and demented?
Yeah, and he didn't address really like why he dropped out,
which people always kind of, you think would be the point.
And Kamala is not the official democratic nominee,
but she has like the presumptive or defacto democratic nominee.
Well, now that she got the Obama endorsement and Charlie XCX,
it's basically, that was wild.
The Obama is calling in to endorse her after it didn't quite
look like they would.
And they endorsed her for her playfulness, humor,
her positivity, her sense of humor and the way that she
brings kind of levity into the whole situation, which
seems to be what they're kind of going with.
It's really important that we defeat Trump and she's not that bad.
At least she's kind of funny.
Like unintentionally, not intentionally.
Or yeah, they're trying to make it seem like she's,
you know, brat.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, they, you said on
Yeah, on Tracy.
Glenn's show that was guest hosted by Tracy
that they're trying to turn her into this like
quirky, loopy, ditzy, low IQ wine mom.
And she's like a Betty Boop figure.
A Betty Bloop figure.
And Tracy was getting all fired up
about how she's won zero votes
and she's just this de facto nominee.
He made it a very-
Yeah, I keep forgetting that's not how it works.
Like the vice president isn't just the Democratic candidate.
Yeah, we just got so acclimated to Democratic tyranny,
like real quick.
They manufactured the consent really good this time.
But Tracy made a very good, if obvious point
that she hasn't had to like win voters or petition delegates
or like do anything in the standard way
that Democratic nominees ordinarily do
and have done for ages and the media isn't even covering it.
He said she's been privately coordinated
without a single scintilla of private campaigning.
The Farrakh and Michelle call an endorsement
literally sounded like they were planning a swinger's orgy.
Like when old people say have fun or use party as a verb,
it sounds like they're trying to fuck in a hotel room.
I mean, it was, I'm sorry to repeat myself obviously,
but it did seem so produced much like her taking the phone
call with a we did it Joe.
It's like, she's not talking to anyone on that phone.
And like, they're just, it seemed like, why is that the,
it just felt so fragmented and fake.
There's like multiple takes.
Yeah.
And like they just say, they were like,
can you just record separately, like, you know,
this script and then she'll react to it.
Yeah.
Like an actress.
Yeah, exactly.
And like, I guess.
Hello, she's like, oh, you're together.
I love that you're together.
Like, we're just so proud of you.
They're like, seething, resentful.
My girl, Kamala.
Yeah.
Okay, I still am too too stupid to get Kamala.
Not Kamala.
Which one is the racist one again?
Tracy was saying Kamala is the one that's mean.
There's one that like mispronounces it on purpose.
I genuinely don't.
I have to remember Mamala.
Yeah, I saw some like a video of a British Indian chick
who was not Charlie XCX being like,
okay, so the way that we've been pronouncing Kamala
is racist and imperialist
and you actually pronounce it, Kamala.
Kamala.
Kamalots.
A friend of mine told me that Russian radio
just calls her Mamala
and that's supposed to be like really a little bit.
Patronizing.
Yeah.
But yeah, I guess the media covering this obvious like abortion of democracy would mean
admitting that like there is no standard democratic procedure operative and democracy is like
irretrievably broken.
I mean, so funny how it's just basically means the Democrats getting the candidate they want
or chipping if they don't get them.
About how they've lost.
We need, they hadn't,
we haven't been protecting democracy adequately
because they didn't get Mamala who hasn't won.
Yeah, won any votes,
but seems like she's gonna be,
I guess, it's so Soviet, you know?
And the way we're all just kind of like, I guess so,
you know, and then the propaganda campaign
that's so like, unsubtle, and everyone knows
and can see it what it is, but still somehow is like,
you know, I think some people are genuinely just want to beat Trump
so bad that they have like,
gaslit themselves into being like, I like her.
I mean, the Democrats make a big show out of like,
vetting all of their like presumptive nominees,
but at the end of the day,
because they're partisans and loyalists,
they'll just vote for whoever the democratic candidate is,
which is fine.
And normal and business as usual.
I guess.
Shout out Glenn Bilveri.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's going on like RuPaul.
She's doing the big faggots really getting behind her.
Yeah, the LGBT agenda.
And like Charlie really kicked off that meme cycle
by tweeting
Kamala's brat yeah yeah yeah we've been priming ourselves for it no I don't
really I don't think really what it is I think just like when it's not I don't
what kind of Indian is Charlie I think she's half Gujarati on her mother's side. What the fuck is Gujarati? It's like a common type of,
from India proper?
North, they're in the north west.
Ooh.
They're the ones that I mainly grew up with in New Jersey.
There was some Punjabis, but it was mostly Gujarati.
She's so pale.
Yeah, but a lot of them are light skinned.
Make your phones pop off.
Oh, it's my maid.
I can't talk right now, Kat.
So you gotta text me in Spanish so I can translate it.
I see, yeah.
But I don't really think that that's what it's about.
I think it's just like, she's like a young,
apolitical woman and like,
I don't think she really has a dog in the fight.
She's not even from here.
She's from the UK.
That's what I was saying.
She's saying whatever.
Yeah, and like, I think young apolitical people
see like a candidate who's like a woman of color
and that's better than the white man.
And that's like also really normal and understandable,
even though if it's not ideal for us.
And it's smart of her to, you know,
I feel like she was at least on like the Reddit
getting a lot of like backlash
for like the company she keeps after my like,
oh, that last time we were talking about the Home Depot lady
and I was very impassioned about.
And then shortly thereafter, brutally became,
I was shockingly canceled.
For doing nothing wrong in a crusade that lasted so long.
I'm obviously pretty wrong in a crusade that lasted so long.
I'm obviously pretty desensitized to weathering these kinds of storms,
but literally the people that,
the pro-Palestine people that came for me
for shooting privately in my private time,
an effigy of a very generic terrorist.
If you go to any gun range in America,
you can shoot a picture of like a terrorist holding a bomb,
wearing a suicide vest.
Like that's, you know, yeah, it's a little crude.
It's a little juvenile.
It's a little annoying, I guess.
But once again, I didn't make some declaration.
I didn't make any posts.
I was like someone tattled on me. And then, yeah, the, I didn't make some declaration. I didn't make any posts. I was like someone tattled on me.
And then, yeah, I mean, not to be like the death threats,
but literally, yeah,
the most anti-social people relentlessly.
And by like Sunday, it had been like four, you know,
I was like sobbing on Sunday.
I was like, what the fuck?
I was like, what the fuck?
What happened to you?
And I was like, actually, Anna's right.
These people should be in gulag.
Well, and it should be a crime to be mean to me.
I know, but I was just making a very obvious point
that if they had the power,
and I'm not saying they have the power,
they would absolutely throw you into a mass grave
because you're a person that they've decided to hate
for whatever personal psychological reasons.
And also they have literally no responsibility
or consequences in their own lives.
So they don't even understand the sanctity of life
or the finality of death.
It's all a game to them.
I know.
And so, like those kinds of people people it's not even that they're
And it's not even a socially unfit or dysgenic. It's just that they're fucking scary
I mean, they all are those things too. Well, so I noticed demographically obviously there's so many like gender queers
Which like not to belabor this point that like right when people love to make but like, you know
And net and Yahoo made it this point in right wing people love to make. But like, you know, and Netanyahu made it this point
in his speech I saw as well.
But like the whole gaze, you know, queers for Palestine,
it's like people in the Middle East
wanna like throw rocks at you till you die.
They wanna throw you off a roof.
Like what do you mean?
They don't want your support.
What like, and yeah, and you're all like really rabid
and crazy and like clearly like don't want your support. And yeah, and you're all really rabid and crazy
and clearly don't understand what's going on
and they're lashing out.
Or it's probably people I think who's like,
parents are Zionists, if you know what I mean.
And they're mad at their mommy and daddy,
but they get money from them,
so they have to lash out at Dasha, who did nothing wrong.
Who, well, I'm not gonna apologize
for shooting a fake terrorist on the 4th of July.
Yeah, and it's kind of a trollish, edgelordy gesture,
but also being a troll.
But you're allowed to be a troll.
But also being a troll and edgelord implies
bringing it upon yourself by posting it on the internet,
which like you didn't do and it was leaked.
And like that mechanism I think is dirty and sorted.
Like the kind of people that go on people's private accounts.
I wasn't asking for.
And leak or docs information
should also be thrown into Google logs.
I'm sorry, that's like.
And whoever follows my boyfriend's private Instagram.
Degenerate their braved behavior.
Who tattled on me.
You will, there is an investigation and there will be consequences. follows my boyfriend's private Instagram. Who tattled on me?
There is an investigation and there will be consequences.
We are gonna find out who you are.
You sound like Mark Zuckerberg in the company email.
You should resign now because we're gonna find out
who you are anyway and you'll be fired.
We're gonna comb through those 300 followers.
Make yourself known.
Reve reveal yourself.
And the snake will be crushed.
Sorry, I didn't mean to digress. It's just, and it's, I didn't mean to.
But yeah, it's crazy.
No, I, it really was crazy.
It was like a subject of like a mini pylon recently
because I tweeted that thing,
which we can get into later about JD Vance
and how now is not the time to counter signal JD Vance because you're effectively counter
signaling the campaign as a whole. And I was very careful in that tweet to preface it by
saying that I'm not at all a Vance whole. I have my issues with him, but people took
that as like a glowing endorsement and were sending me like death threats and telling me my child should be
seized by CPS, like the usual stuff.
But yeah, lots of people were telling me
I should take care of my child.
And I was like, that's the other one.
I'm the child this one.
I love when the pylons happen.
And then to me, they're like, you fucking tradcath whore and then to
you you're like you need to take care of your child but that just goes to show that they don't
they have a very vague abstract idea yeah of who we are and they're just dying to lash out at
somebody who's already like pre-vetted as like an enemy or a monster or whatever.
It's all really stupid.
I mean, the main thing with those people is that they lack
like the basic impulse control and emotional discipline.
Exactly.
To like not lash out at random people on the internet.
So like, how are you gonna build a society
around those people?
And why are you gonna cater to their whims?
Like, which I thought the moment had kind of passed for,
but this one was really, it was like 2019 levels
of animosity all over again.
I was like, I didn't know, the woke mob?
I was like, I didn't, I thought that, I thought we were, I thought there was a vibe shift. I didn't know we the woke mob? I was like, I didn't know. I thought we were, I thought there was a vibe shift.
I didn't know we were doing woke mob.
I hadn't even heard the word woke in like a couple months.
We were, yeah.
I've been like living under a rock, but.
I mean, our friend and our German friend in the Catskills
was talking about the woke mob.
De-woke.
Yeah.
But besides that, and that felt kind of retro and like I
was like oh cool but sometimes I even like don't mind the pylons because I'm
like oh this feels just like 2016 or 2019. The dopamine. Yeah it's like
nostalgic.
I was just so blindsided.
I was like, of course it's gonna just blow over.
And I was like, in a couple of days,
everyone's gonna see that I'm the real victim here.
And then people have reacted in a totally
like disproportionate and bad faith way.
And that like, yes, I'm sorry.
I am sorry that I'm an edgelord
and I'm sorry that I'm like kind of annoying.
And like, yeah, I think it's like cool to shoot a gun.
Like my fucking bad, you know?
I feel like that's not-
I hate you for your freedom.
They do, they really do.
I mean, I'm not like a huge fan of like armchair
psychologizing having been the subject
of so much of it myself.
Right.
But it's obvious that these people are like discontented
and frustrated for reasons that remain mysterious to them
even though they're pretty obvious to everyone else
Well, yeah, I ended up like on some Instagram account
Because that's what also was like very on Instagram really it caught wind on like activist Instagram And so then I was looking at some account that was like lashing out at me and I saw a post that they had made about sanism which is when you
discriminate against people on the basis that they are insane I mean that's like
it's like farcical it was like great I was like what I guess yeah I guess crazy
is sanism and I say someone's crazy is sanism at work.
But these people can't run a society.
We can't, this is a society.
Yeah, we can't capitulate to them.
We can't be like, you shouldn't be discredited
just because you're insane.
We work moderately functional.
Yeah, barely.
But somehow.
I'm neurodivergent.
Yeah.
In many ways.
But.
I'm a nympho.
Malcontent.
A bed wetter, an arsonist.
By my nails. You know, I got my own fucking problems.
But to say a nice thing about social media.
Yeah.
Go on.
Like as much as I hate the whole like Kamala is brat meme cycle and how it's taken off.
It is kind of objectively technically remarkable
how that organic synergy happened
and then was leveraged into like an AstroTurf campaign.
Cause I don't think like Charlie for example,
was paid or influenced by anyone to tweet that.
I think she was just like operating off of vibes.
Yeah, and like is, you know, is in some ways emotional,
at least beholden to her like gay lib fan base.
Yeah, she wasn't manufacturing consent.
No, she might've been pandering a little bit
to a demographic that's like very vocally, you know.
And like, yeah, maybe leveraging a lot of,
she's like really has,
she's really created this meme cycle very masterfully.
So it's like, she's sort of like extending it,
which is a savvy move as a pop star.
Yeah, and like my question was like,
how much of it is like astroturfed through like paid actors
and shadowy NGOs versus just organically propagated
by like Jeffrey Dahmer victim ass NPC drones?
I think it's both.
I think I mentioned this also in Tracy's Glenn Greenwald show.
Where's Glenn?
Yeah. How come Glenn never invites me on his show?
Yeah. How come we've never been on System Update?
I'm trying to wrap my brain if I've ever been on System Update.
I was thinking about this.
I was like, how come Glenn never invites me?
And then I realized I never watched the show really.
And it wasn't like, how come Glenn never reminds me? And then I realized I like, I never watched the show really. And it wasn't like, you know.
Like I definitely have seen clips,
but I am like, I actually wouldn't.
They have like a very impressive production over there.
Amazing, yeah.
Shit, I forgot.
Oh, I mentioned on Tracy's show,
Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff,
is a very powerful entertainment player.
Oh yeah, I clocked that, yeah.
That's interesting. So you're also gonna see just like Hollywood very powerful entertainment player. Oh yeah, I clock that. Yeah, that's interesting.
So you're also gonna see just like Hollywood very much.
Like they would any, but they kind of would anyway,
because they like are basically in lockstep.
They're the total like foot soldiers of the regime anyway.
So they're like, I don't think that's gonna have.
They're the best Democrats of all.
Yeah, the best Democrat awards.
But that especially like, it going to be extremely hard for any
like dissident voice within the entertainment industry.
And it's going to be extremely hard,
contrary to like James Carville's stated desires for any other
Democratic candidate to pull ahead of Kamala
because she has the full weight of the donor class,
Hollywood, the media, academia, like everyone's lining up for her.
It's bizarre.
Yeah.
So they really did succeed in creating their super democratic.
They did it.
They did super democracy. they did succeed in creating their super democratic process.
They did it, they did super democracy.
But you said on Glenn's show that young people
can feel like when a meme cycle is inauthentic
and they react accordingly.
And I think that's very true.
I don't think that Kamala actually has very much appeal
among young voters who either A, don't like her
or B, are like checked out. Yeah, Definitely not zoomers and even like, you know, Charlie's like
my age. Yeah, but she's like, I can't think of a single demographic that she's
popular with except for like DNC loyalists. Like really, remember like Judge Joe Brown's remarks, she's a frat hoe and she ain't black.
Oh my God.
There's no way like black people are lining up for Kamala
except to the extent that they happen to be
mostly democratic voters.
Yeah.
Is she not black?
I think her mom is, I don't know. I don't know what her like 23andMe is. She's like part black, part Indian, part white.
She's a sneaky Indian?
Yeah. She's sneaked her way in.
And yeah, the other thing that you guys were talking about is that like eventually Kamala is gonna have to be submitted
to the standard democratic processes
and she's gonna have to go on the campaign trail.
She's gonna have to debate Trump.
And this is a woman who much like Joe Biden
can't string to get together a sentence for dear life,
except she doesn't have the benefit
of like old age infirmity as an excuse.
Yeah, the fact that I'm repeating myself again a little bit,
but the fact that Joe Biden didn't step down for so long, like really,
really like down to the wire,
like shouldn't have been for the president for a really long time.
And it's mad embarrassing and crazy that he was is because there's something
really wrong with com Kamala that like there's something really wrong with Kamala.
Like there's something really- I mean, it's like beyond her just being low IQ.
It's a question again, like if he's unfit
to run for president in the next election,
why is he fit to serve out the remainder
of his term as president now?
It doesn't add up.
I know.
And I think, yeah, they were hiding Kamala away
for a really long time so that voters wouldn't catch wind
of the fact that she's like on pills
and like slurring her speech, talking at like coconut trees
and unburdening what was doing like severe.
Well then, yeah, they're, Maddie,
honestly very prescient Aquarius moment.
She's been kind of rocking with Kamala for a while.
She's been sending me funny compilation videos and stuff.
And now it's really caught, people are catching up
to coconut tree Kamala stuff.
up to like coconut tree. Yeah. Yeah. On the context in which you exist. I did actually that one I like the more I think about it, I do find it like in inadvertently intrusively
creeping into my mind where I'm like, Oh, the call of course the context of what was. People just don't, I was thinking about it.
We'll talk about Ballerina Farms and the think piece
or the profile of her in the UK Times.
But I was like wondering if I was jealous of her or not.
And I-
Wait, Ballerina Farms or Kamala Harris?
Ballerina Farms, definitely not jealous of Kamala. But Ballerina Farms, Kamala Harris? Ballerina Farms. Definitely not Jealous of Kamala,
but Ballerina Farms, I was looking at her content.
I'm jealous of Kamala because everyone's talking about her.
No, I'm glad.
I was really like, oh, I can't wait for people
to get mad about, yeah.
I was like, Anna needs to drop the hard R
and take some heat off me.
Anna's gotta do something. But you were saying people got mad at you for Vance.
For like my Vance, my lukewarm milk toast ass Vance.
I agree with you.
Yeah, like strategically,
it's not good to counter signal Vance
and he's really not so bad, I think.
But as someone who just kind of found out who he was,
but I do think people are allowed to react.
They're gonna have their reactions to someone
and it does seem that women do not care for him.
And who aren't just-
Women are retarded.
Well, but they're in this, in America,
when you get to vote and they're entitled to react.
No, what I'm saying is that if you wanna criticize Vance,
this is so naive and boomer of me,
but you should come up with some like good criticisms.
Like, okay, I-
Well, he was a never Trump-er.
That's a good criticism.
Yeah, that's a good criticism.
Don't love poverty porn.
There are ways to talk about the opioid epidemic
and rising death rates among working class and rural whites
and anti-white racism and all these issues
that he's touching on which are very important,
I think, without airing your family's dirty laundry
to make a name for yourself.
Completely, throwing them under the bus.
That kind of peeves me out.
I also suspect, I'm gonna put this out here
and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong,
but I feel like I might be vindicated that his rural poor origin story is not what it
appears to be. Hmm. Like I think that... Interesting. Don't you think that
would have come to light? I mean I think it's certainly true that his mom was a
single mom, that she was a drug addict,
that she made some bad life choices,
that she had men coming in and out of her life,
that he had to go live with his grandparents.
But he carries himself with the comportment
or whatever bearing of a person who is essentially educated
in middle class.
You can make the case that,
well, he was very bright and ambitious,
he ended up going to an Ivy League.
He made it against all odds,
but I think there's something more there.
And I would bet that potentially his grandparents
are of maybe a higher standing or class
than we think they are or something like that.
Like something in the milk ain't clean with that boy.
Just putting that out there.
That doesn't obviously disqualify him as a politician.
More qualified.
Or disqualify his candidacy.
Who am I to talk?
He's just kind of stiff and weird and I don't know.
Like, yeah, he does seem kind of stiff and weird and I don't know.
Yeah, he does seem kind of like tragic in a way that's not very appealing.
I mean, he's sort of like a straight-laced,
clean-cut, somewhat temperamentally timid
establishment political figure,
hence my earlier comparison to Ron DeSantis.
But yeah, I mean, at the same time,
they were trying to make Kamala's brat happen.
They're also trying to like meme the girls and gays
into like getting the ick for JD Vans.
And it's all like very-
I mean, I don't think that's, yeah.
Vibe and woo woo.
Yeah.
And I think the main crux of that is that
he's a young, rich white guy,
which is like everyone's favorite class
and cultural enemy now.
But he got that Indian wife.
Yeah.
And his son Vivek,
Vivek Ramaswamy.
I wonder if they named him Vivek after Ramaswamy.
Cause they were friends.
Cause they were like method man named his son Rayquan
after Rayquan.
Probably, cause him and his,
but he has his wife and Vivek were friends right yeah and like
even if not directly and some you know if they were friends yeah if i name my daughter Anna if i have a daughter i'll name her and then they can start a podcast
that'd be so cute.
I know.
And psycho.
If we made our daughters start a child version of Red Scare
and talk about child events.
Just like monetize them young.
We became like, Troudwife influencers.
Baby Muppets, Muppet Babies.
That's what they were called. Yeah, and Baby Muppet. Muppet Babies. That's what that's what they were called. Yeah.
And Baby Muppet. Muppet Baby. Jennifer Aniston. Oh yeah. JD Vance. Cause he made his 2021
comments. He's getting in trouble for going on Amy Theresa's podcast. Which they fucking.
I wouldn't have done it if I was trying to have.
I guess.
And I feel like he probably didn't quite see his future.
He didn't foresee, yeah.
But he wanted to be in politics.
Yeah, but nobody knows what's gonna happen to them.
Yeah.
A month, a year, like me a day from now.
It's true, I mean anything could happen.
Yeah. Like me a day from now. It's true. I mean anything could happen Yeah, I saw some bitch on the internet
Calling me a ruthless businesswoman who acts a goof
To get like the critics off my trail and on it. She was being a hater
But honestly, that's the nicest and most flattering thing
Anyone has ever said about me.
Someone left a comment on one of my Instagram pictures
that said, oh, does she look so young
to appeal to pedophile Zionists?
And I was like, oh my God, that's so sweet.
You think I look young?
You think I look childlike?
For pedophile Zionist?
I know.
You must be crazy.
Go off queen.
I live for those moments.
A brutal, ruthless business woman.
I know.
That'd be interesting.
I'm like curled in a fetal position because I can't choose between a rental car and a car service.
I'm scared to open my email.
I know. Yeah. You're, I mean, we're both pretty low functioning in that regard, but I'd say
you even more so harder to, I think I'm,'m yeah You're a little more harder to pin down when people are like, um, can we email your agent or manager? I'm like
Yeah, but anyway, so yeah back in 2021 JD Vance
But anyway, so yeah, back in 2021, JD Vance said that the US has run by a quote,
a bunch of childless cat ladies
who are miserable at their own lives
and the choices they've made.
It's just basic fact.
You look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC,
the entire future of the Democrats
is controlled by people without children.
And then Jennifer Aniston clapped back
a couple of days ago saying,
all I can say is Mr. Vance, I pray that your daughter is fortunate enough to bear children of her own one day.
She continued, I hope she will not need to turn to IVF as a second option,
because you are trying to take that away from her too.
The actress has previously shared details of her own IVF struggles, telling Allure in November 2022
that it was a challenging road for me, the baby making road.
How about women don't make it about yourselves challenge?
Yeah, and I don't think Vance does oppose IVF.
That's like, she's conflating his like other.
He's kind of gone soft on abortion.
Yeah, she's just conflating his.
Look, I got her pain and frustration at not
being able to have children, but that's also,
by the way, a choice that she made at some point.
I mean, maybe, maybe not.
Maybe she was, you know,
maybe she always had fertility problems.
Yeah, maybe, but I'm gonna guess.
But she was looking fertile as fuck on friends.
Exactly, bingo.
She had those nice titties and everything. Yeah, maybe but she was looking fertile as fuck on friends
She had those nice titties and everything she definitely could have gotten
But you know Brad Pitt famously cheated on her with Anna. Jolena Jolie on the set of a Mr. Mrs. Smith and that's also really like sad. Yeah, I hate I feel for Jennifer Aniston. I don't like it's hard to be yeah
It's hard to like come at her because they're like, oh.
She just got dealt a really tough hand, but.
Yeah, and for the most part, she's handled
all these setbacks with like dignity and discretion.
She's not like super annoying about it.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is like a classic case of proving his point.
But.
So then he responded on Megyn Kelly's show
and said that if his daughter,
he said something really weird, I'm sorry.
My daughter, Viveka.
He said.
Yeah, he said, well, first of all,
if my daughter did have fertility problems
and then he said that it was disgusting to insinuate that
because his daughter is two years old.
And it's like, well, she's not talking about it.
Obviously she doesn't mean that.
A little bit bad faith move on his part, but that he's stated before that he would do anything to help her,
like implicitly kind of endorsing that, you know, these sort of reproductive plus options that women have now.
Joke's on you, Jennifer Aniston, his kids are gonna be trans.
I actually, by the way, I actually did not love
those JD Vans childless cat lady comments,
not because they're necessarily wrong,
but because they feel like received wisdom.
It feels like something that he absorbed or sponged up
from right wing Twitter, where it's a funny meme
and it hits.
And when he said that it feels like a little bit
inauthentic to him, if that makes any sense.
And like just not very,
it's something that obviously upsets people.
It's not necessarily, it is a little mean-spirited
and triggers people in a way that's not very
politically savvy.
Donald Trump could get away with it.
Childless women are not gonna have sympathy for,
it's not gonna endear him to childless women.
Cause they're upset about,
a lot of them are pretty upset about being childless.
And a lot of them have repressed that
and turned it into like a political fixation,
which is obvious enough,
but we all have our shortcomings that we're coping for
by being zealots on the internet. Totally yeah for being political commentators.
It's just one of our quirks you know we've all yeah we all have our cross to bear.
And yeah it's not even what he said it's how how he said it. Like I said, somebody like Donald Trump
could easily get away with a comment like that
and everybody would clap and cheer.
And like the usually pussy hat women get up in arms.
He'd be funny, you know, at least he'd be like, yeah.
And he'd kind of hyperbolize it, you know.
They're saying it's the most childish woman's ever been.
Something like that, you know.
I don't, yeah, that's why he's the future president.
I'm not, he's just better on the fly like that.
I mean, he's right in principle that the Democratic Party
is run by a bunch of anti-natalist,
careerist, striver types.
Totally, it's nihilistic.
And he's right that the whole culture
of the Democratic Party and our political culture
in general is very feminized.
But I feel like,
yeah, there was something about the way that he-
It is a little hello fellow kids.
How do we get out of this long house, right guys?
You know what I'm saying?
You know, when your wife's busting your balls
in the long house.
He should have just went for it
and called them retarded Roasties and Foids.
A Roasty with a complicated past.
Jennifer Aniston doesn't know what a Roasty or a Foid is,
so she wouldn't even be able to clap back.
Mom-alysa, yeah.
I was reading, I was spending randomly some time today
on the SPLC website,
because they have a super extensive extensive glossary database of like you
know people they've deemed extremists and hate groups but now we're not I did
yeah they don't even have a proper profile on Steve Saylor but he's met
he's alluded to and other articles but they're like, you know, there is a category, a whole category for an extremist group
that's just called misogynist incels.
But they actually are-
Do they even have to be on there?
Well, yeah, then they link to the incidents
of like kind of incel violence,
like Elliot Rogers and the guy in Toronto who sort of like overtly were kind of like, I'm doing this because I get no pussy.
Yeah, because I'm autistic. I get no pussy.
But but they included a definition of void, which I thought was like, wow, I was like, they're really tapped in.
which I thought was like, wow, I was like, they're really tapped in.
Who's ever like writing these little like glossary pages,
doing some good work, which yeah.
It's like that woman, Hannah guys.
It probably is honestly, she's really online.
But it is yeah, because it's like the misogynist insoles
aren't like a coherent organized group in any way.
It's like, it's not, there are like, you know,
you could kind of wickify the ideology into the categories,
but it is just too broad and like,
ambient.
Yeah, and like almost deliberately so.
It seems like it's like unfairly kind of like punishing
insoles already who like, haven't they suffered enough.
Yeah, I mean it's another shorthand for white men
who we know commit most of the violence in this country.
Yeah, I saw people calling JD Vanson incel and stuff.
I know, I did too.
He's got multiple children.
I mean, you can't just call someone that.
Yeah, he's fucked at least three times.
He's a fake cell.
He's got a wife.
A van cell.
And if she's anything like these Indian guy compilation
videos I've been watching, she's probably pretty horny.
No, that seems very gendered.
I don't think that Indian women are as high libido
and low impulse control as Desi men.
Yeah, I don't know.
You think?
They're pretty crazy and horny.
I read some, cause I was doing some research.
But like in a sexy Padma Lakshmi way.
Anyway, go on.
Oh yeah, she is pretty horny and sexy.
And yeah, she's been posting photos of herself
in lingerie.
Like.
Yeah.
And she's a beautiful woman.
I know.
Whatever.
She makes me feel like an Indian guy when I look at it.
Should we talk about ballerina farms?
Yeah, sure. Indian guys are cool because they have no concept
of like Western civility or decorum.
So they'll literally just like stare at you.
Yeah, I think it's cute.
Yeah, the Hannah Neelman, she's a Mormon, former ballerina
and pageant queen turned a tradwife influencer.
She was the subject of a profile in the Times of London
that quickly went viral.
She seemed, the article I think said
she's maybe the most popular tradwife influencer.
I'd never heard of her until this moment.
She apparently has nine million followers on Instagram
and 7.4 million on TikTok and 1.5 on YouTube.
So she's very popular.
Yeah, I've seen her content.
She like Nara whatever.
Smith, is that her name?
The other one who makes like the kind of
deliberately annoying from scratch ideas.
They're both Mormon.
When I like was reading the article
and saw she was Mormon, I was like, oh, well.
Yeah.
She's more like, you can't hold Mormons to the same standard.
Like she's not an oddity really as like,
she's from a family of nine,
her husband's from a family of nine.
I grew up around, Mormons are kind of like my Indians.
Because then they're like the Indians of Las Vegas.
In that they procreate a lot.
And they feel like they're above the law.
Yeah, and they're very prosperous.
Yeah, totally. And very entrepreneurial often.
What did she say?
She had a good quote about this
that kind of was a window into the Mormon soul.
Living out here, it must be hard to envision
all the millions of eyes watching them.
I feel like we're doing what God wants,
Neelman says.
We're on his errand a little bit, Daniel adds.
We're on his errand a little bit, she repeats.
Yeah, Mormons are creeps.
God wants you to make vaguely erotic videos
of your children and livestock to put on social media.
That's what God, totally, that's what God wants.
It's very like, yeah, Mormon, which is very American,
to be like, God wants me to have a big house,
and God wants me to have prosperity.
It's like, God doesn't want that for you.
God wants you to suffer, which is ultimately
the most like salvific thing you can do, but I get it.
I follow the vision.
Very powerful and very impressive.
So yeah, she's a pageant queen, she's a former ballerina.
She had eight kids without painkillers.
And then one with an epidural,
she admits to the journalists at some point,
which is a big mistake.
So, but this is a woman who She left this snake in her house.
Understands that pain is weakness leaving the body.
She's about domination and mastery.
Oh my God.
Absolutely.
She enjoys pain and suffering to some extent.
Oh yeah.
If it's for a purpose that God wants.
I mean, yeah.
She's a ballerina.
She's has an exquisite discipline
yeah she's and a Mormon she's a Mormon ballerina I mean that's that's what I was saying like when
I was like am I jealous of her you know I was like what you know I was like trying to like
evaluate my the what the feelings I was experiencing when I was like surveying her
content and there was because there was you know I was like surveying her content and there was,
cause there was, you know, I was kinda like,
oh fuck, she's like 34, she's got eight kids.
I'm like, oh, she's so high functioning.
What the fuck, I'm like such a loser.
She runs a farm, she runs a business,
she runs a household. I could never, yeah.
But then I was like, you know what,
like I'm just not, then Kamala, like the context.
I was like, she's Mormon.
I was born in Belarus, I didn't have a chance.
Yeah, but that's exactly like, it's very hard to be jealous.
I could have been a ballerina, I guess.
Somebody who's so like distant from you.
Yeah.
Like typically you're jealous of people
who remind you of yourself.
Well, I was, no, well, I was pretty triggered.
She triggered me also because my parent,
my mom was a rhythmic gymnast, you know.
The Olympics just started too.
It's sort of like, that's all.
I was also kind of like feeling a little,
the Olympics are always kind of raw for me
because it causes me to reflect on like my parents' lives
and ambitions and like, I feel in some some way that like my mom also had me very
I'm a child of one obviously but like my mom had me and continued to be a dancer for a
long time and both yeah both my parents were in like the athletic entertainment arts and
Russian women strong like bull but I always sort of felt like they, you know,
I can't help but feel like had they not had a kid,
they would have made different choices and like been,
you know, found kind of like satisfaction and excellence.
And like, I, yeah, I couldn't help.
That's the whole controversy around this woman's profile.
Yeah, I would have probably stated at Juilliard on this.
Well yeah, the people are saying that basically
her husband is abusive and he pressured her
to drop out of school and marry him and become a trad wife.
And she had to forfeit her dreams and ambitions
of being like a cool it girl in New York or whatever,
blah, blah, blah, like that sort of thing. I
mean first of all this whole this did seem astroturf to me people were saying it was
a smear campaign but it feels more like a press campaign for their social media lifestyle
brand and then all the other thing is like that's why they agreed to the profile in the
first place is because they know what they're doing. Yeah and if secondly like if you are a influencer or content creator on the internet you are not
trad and she's actually smart and self-aware enough to admit that she doesn't identify as trad and
didn't really see it coming. I don't know how true that is but like it's not a label that she
associates with herself. I think it's true enough in that like yeah, she's very actually and she's not she's obviously excellent in many ways
but for a Mormon person
like they are very high achieving and have big families and like
Are the whole original sort of homesteaders and like have been doing it since before like trad was a very charged
Lifestyle thing. I think she is just kind of Mormon. Mm-hmm
charged lifestyle thing. I think she is just kind of Mormon.
Well, and the third thing that's like the crucial thing
is that basically to sustain a successful
trad lifestyle or brand,
you basically have to be a millionaire,
if not a billionaire.
And that's sort of the smoking gun that's nested
somewhere like three quarters of the way in the piece
where they acknowledge that her husband Daniel is
the son of David who is a
Commercial your airlines jet blue CEO and they're billionaires. Yeah
So so it wasn't like he
Yeah, and I like once again like had it been me I would doubt I probably would have stayed
at Juilliard I would have sacrificed some of my fertile years you know but that's because
my parents put different kinds of expectations on me and her parents you know she grew up
homeschooled with nine brothers and sisters. And like that's, she understands
the expectations placed on her and Daniel
were just different than the ones placed on most people.
Which is that they have to have a big family
and blah, blah, blah.
In the profile, there's a lot of like suspenseful
editorializing about how she was uncertain
and contemplating her decision.
And he really turned on the pressure and blah, blah, blah.
But I'm sure in real life it happened a lot more
like seamlessly and organically.
It's kind of a no brainer to leave your career
as a ballerina.
Which isn't gonna be very long anyway.
If you get her, if you like, you know,
you'll just age out of it by 29.
Basically at the latest.
And you know, you'll be relatively famous
and successful in your field,
but you're not gonna make a ton of money.
No.
You're not gonna have like longevity.
Exactly.
And so it makes, like it doesn't seem like
she's being like groomed.
Coerced. Or coerced. It doesn't seem like she's being groomed.
Coerced.
Well, yeah, they tell the anecdote of how he was sort of courting her.
And I don't think it's AstroTurf.
I think they agreed to a profile thinking it would be...
They're doing PR.
The journalist is very disgracefully,
I feel like, in the way the journal, you know,
that's just what they do, obviously,
but like, yeah, she's been invited into their home
and she's like, and she's weaving this narrative about,
yeah, she's seething about how the husband's mansplaining
and like, she's really narrativizing
and taking a lot of liberties.
And they tell this anecdote
about how she mentioned to Daniel that she was gonna fly
from Salt Lake City back to New York to go back to Juilliard
and she didn't know that his dad owned the airline company
and that he made some calls and got himself a seat
next to her on the plane and obviously this was told
in as if it was their kind of meek, cute love story and it got himself a seat next to her on the plane. And obviously this was told in like,
as if it's like their kind of meet cute love story,
but then it's painted by the journalist
as him like menacing and stalking her.
But I don't think they intended for it to be seen that way.
Another urbanite woman journalist projecting
her horny handmaid's tale fantasy on this cute cookie cutter family.
Yeah.
And pretending to be morally outraged about it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But off the bat, like this is a woman
who's literally running things.
She runs the household, she runs the business.
That guy ain't running shit.
I saw that maybe his name was on the LLC,
but that's probably some economic calculation.
They say at some point that they're-
He's not holding a gun to her head.
Absolutely not.
To be a TikTok and Instagram influencer.
Girl, please.
No.
No man wants that or would voluntarily sign up for that.
I mean, he does participate quite a bit
in the content making.
He also does some like,
I think when they say they're both the CEOs,
I think she's in control, but that's true enough
to an extent.
He's some fail son.
He doesn't have, you know, he's got the bag,
but what does he really have going on?
Why wouldn't he just like lean into
Ballerina Farms business with his like excellent hot wife who's like
birthing him many offspring right it's really just a no-brainer all around like
he yeah he's not tyrannical patriarchal overlord if anything he's kind of her
cocked sidekick. Totally.
No, no one's fought, like, let me see actually how many,
because she's like, wife of, like, I'm like,
I'm not even clicking that.
Like, I don't wanna see.
The story opens.
I don't wanna see his trash Instagram.
Competing in the Miss World pageant a mere two weeks
after she's given birth to their eighth child,
and she's flying from like remote Utah to Las Vegas with her newborn, her husband
and the other seven kids in tow.
I mean pathological honestly.
But straight up like, and I mean,
she has that same thing that another Mormon we know
called Brian Johnson has, which is like an enormous,
almost delusional will
to like greatness and immortality because God said so,
which he totally didn't, but hey, more props to them
because I'm not at all a person like that
and if you can do it, that's cool.
Well, they are, they're just bred,
if it is like selective breeding
and the birth of Mormonism,
like they are just kind of built really different selective breeding and the birth of Mormonism.
They are just kind of built really different.
And unfortunately, they are in,
their theology is erroneous and they actually haven't,
they're not achieving salvation
the way that other Christians are.
Also, no man who was truly abusive or controlling
or patriarchal would allow his wife to run a business,
would allow her to go on the internet.
No way.
Would allow her to compete in pageants.
Yeah.
Like that's preposterous.
I'm sure he can be angry.
Yeah, in a little, I mean, it seems my impression.
Say things under his breath and be kind of an asshole
or whatever, whatever.
He's a rich, he's a rich boy, he's a prick.
Here, I'll read this part.
David wants to take me to see the new dairy farm buildings
while Neelman goes, are they both named Neelman?
I thought it was weird that she kept referring to her.
I guess she's the subject of the piece.
So she calls her by her last name.
I guess that's maybe some formatting thing.
She has this last name, obviously.
Yeah, but I was like, it made me feel confused,
but whatever.
Neelman goes back into the house to make lunch
for the, in quotes, kiddos.
Which is like, why are you being a weird bitch
about how they said kiddos?
Like, leave them alone.
That's such a nice, wholesome Ned Flanders ass
American white family thing to do, it's fine.
We stop in an irrigation ditch, which he explains.
The offices, which he explains.
The milking stations, which he explains.
I check my watch feeling edgy.
I wanna talk to Neelman, cunt.
Just one more stop, he says.
Neelman calls him.
Okay, he says to her, we're just heading your way, he adds,
driving in the opposite direction out into the fields
to show me another ditch.
And I really felt like she was being such a cunt.
And this guy is obviously just like, that's what men do.
Men love telling you about some shit you don't care about
and you can't be a fucking bitch.
And you just have to be be like that's great, babe
My whole life is like hearing about like wires and equipment
Like yeah pat like yeah, Riley was talking about like power tools and stuff and I'm like we're like, yeah
Why are you on Instagram?
Who are you talking to?
Why are you talking to Michael Tracy?
I did say to him last night, I was like,
thank you for being so like non-judgmental about.
Cause I think, I really like, I would have been like,
why are you talking to these people?
What are you doing?
What do you mean you're going on a full podcast?
He's like, that's nice, babe.
No, this journalist wishes,
she wishes she had a man to man-splain
ditches and irrigation to her.
That actually endeared him to me
because it seems so innocent.
He thought she would write about that in her piece.
She'd be like, there are irrigation systems
at the farm.
But in a straightforward, technical way
where they're like, there's 300 acres
and a water grid that surrounds it.
He's like, you're gonna wanna get this down.
He's actually trying to give her some information this down. He's like actually trying to like, yeah.
Give her some information.
Yeah.
He's trying to give her some information for her piece
and she's like, callously turning against him
and painting him as an abuser.
And crushing his enthusiasm.
What a bitch dude. Yeah and then she there's a later when she weirdly gets
Nealman to admit that she's had one like epidural and is
like pressing her to admit that she liked it in this really like bizarre way.
This is another part.
I wanna ask her about birth control,
but we are surrounded by so many of her children
and Daniel is back in the room now too.
She's also weirdly seething about the,
she's in the conclusion of the piece,
she said that she's always being interrupted
by her many kids and husband
and she's like mad that the kids are around.
Which honestly, when you watch some of her videos you can really hear the kids like screaming
and I am a little like that so that is annoying.
Because it's like eight you know it's not just like one fussy kid.
Do you I pause and look at her fixedly plan pregnancies?
No, Daniel says. Do I pause and look at her fixedly? Plan pregnancies?
No, Daniel says. When he says no, Neelman responds gently.
It's very much a matter of prayer for me.
I'm like, God, is it time to bring another one to the earth?
And I've never been told no.
But for whatever reason, it's exactly nine months
after a baby that she's ready for the next one, he says.
It's definitely a matter of prayer, she says.
It's a matter of prayer,
but somehow it's exactly nine months, he says.
Once again, he's like autistically being clarifying
and weird, but basically innocent.
And like, why is she asking her about birth control?
She's Mormon.
Look up what Mormons sing about birth control.
They don't believe in it.
Yeah, when she says prayer,
she means like she's taken a load.
It means it's really a matter of taking the loads
until you're pregnant.
Yeah, this is a woman who did not renounce her faith
and like signed up for that social contract, which means
unlimited nutting.
Yeah.
And not by the grace of God, a lot of Mormons do because they're a very high
conformity culture.
Um, and like are basically like bread and like pretty high and like happiness
and low in neuroticism, right?
You know, they're, they are kind of like, they are like, high and like happiness and low in neuroticism. Right.
You know, they are kind of like,
they are like kind of like Aryan giga chats
in terms of like, which isn't my thing.
Like I don't particularly like, you know,
the semi aesthetic, it's not really what I'm like going for,
but I admire it.
Yeah, it's cool.
It's like, it is what it is. It's like
that's it's America, babe. It's like a specific niche community.
Yeah, and they're not like, yeah. I mean, some of them like
are polygamists. And like, obviously, there's like, you
know, they are pretty creepy, often, because they are very
like exclusionary.
They're like children of the corn people.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is foreign to people like us
who are immigrants.
Essentially like dystopian and nihilistic.
Yeah, Slavic like.
Yeah.
Chernobyl-esque immigrants.
Yeah.
Godless urbanites.
Who are like, yeah, sick.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, or yeah.
But they would regard us with much the same suspicion
bordering on contempt.
They probably don't think Catholics are even Christian.
They probably think they're like.
Muslim.
Pagans and sickly freaks and like not living in accordance
with God's master plan.
But this is, yeah, it's like a specific niche community
that's probably at the end of the day,
also at risk of being endangered down the line.
I don't know how those Mormon birth rates are.
I bet you they're pretty good and above replacement now,
but that's not always gonna be the case
if it even still is.
I mean, I think they're pretty good,
but they're not like proliferating
because they don't marry non-Mormon, you know?
They're like insular.
So they are procreating a lot,
but it's not like they're like expanding necessarily.
Why aren't they allowed to have their own little version
of like white identity politics?
They're not hurting anyone, they're not threatening anyone.
And not every woman has to embrace going on birth control and going on the computer.
Like, it's almost kind of cool that some women still live by kind of the old traditional modes. And it's really, yeah, it's not actually so,
like being Mormon is a little bit statistically freakish,
you know, like the, you know,
but it's not that, that weird.
She says, in order to explain tradwives
and their popularity, we need to look back 15 years or so
when the fourth wave of feminism was breaking.
I was actually like, okay, good, fuck,
because I always forget which waves.
Timeline breakdown, yeah.
Fourth wave, got it.
This was the girl boss era
when women were told to be bolder in the workplace
to lean in further to break glass ceilings.
The poster woman for the movement at the time
was the Facebook boss, Sheryl Sandberg.
I don't think that's really true.
No, that is true because I remember around 2008 to 2015,
which is when I was reading all my TLP,
he would constantly pontificate about Sheryl Sandberg
and Randy Zuckerberg and the women of Facebook
and how ruinous and harmful they were to women at large.
He was early on the wave.
But yeah, at the time she was the big,
she came up with Lean In.
Oh, okay, that was her.
Yeah, I didn't know about her
because I never felt that fourth wave feminism
was really speaking to me as,
we got as a low functioning kind of
maladjusted person.
She goes on, but as the years went on,
women realized they'd been sold a lie.
This individualistic feminism didn't resolve anything
unless you were a millionaire.
For normal working mothers,
the girl boss era achieved virtually nothing.
I mean, being a trad wife doesn't resolve anything
unless you're a millionaire either.
Exactly.
Yeah, and a little bit of a conflation
of the girl bosses with working mothers.
There's like a jump kind of in her train of,
in her like logic.
Yeah.
It's like, that wasn't the issue with girl boss feminism,
that working mothers, it was the issue was like,
all these women ended up eggless and
child or actually and really a lot of them ended up just like me having kids like having
geriatric pregnancies and popping out one or two later on in life.
Yeah, but you weren't a girl.
No, no, I am now bitch.
You're a ruthless business.
I was true.
But what I'm saying is like, yeah bet a lot of those women quietly just started families
and turned their backs on girl bossery.
Yeah, once they like, yeah, married.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't know.
I think a lot of like, wagey chicks find themselves sort of like,
especially in, well, New York, right, which is disproportionately female.
Yeah, I mean, there is gonna be,
like I think about this a lot because there is gonna be
a generational crisis of-
And Lord, these men you sent to protect us, they are-
Of like aging childless women.
Yeah.
Who have to fend for themselves.
Obviously like the Audrey Galmans, you know, who are already kind of like, you know,
super beautiful, don't need to really be girl bosses, end up having kids and, you know, having
hot Israeli husbands and stuff. Or doing it for their own like, personal fulfillment. It's basically
a phase. It's like a hobbyist almost like. But that's what it is. They're like LARPing is like we're working.
Girl bosses and tradwives are two sides of the same coin,
which is the status games of rich people.
Yeah.
Both are vanity projects.
I'd say, yeah.
Well, a lot of girl bosses, so called,
women with email jobs, that's what we're talking about.
I think, yeah, just have,
will find themselves with a feeling
that they've invested in the wrong things,
I either career, which is fake and meaningless.
Not everyone can be a successful podcaster
like us.
Gorgeous ballerina.
Like I would have been had things gone different.
I could do all this.
I just, things got, how did God had a different plan for me
and the Lord works in mysterious ways.
He is.
He is.
If we weren't the children of Chernobyl.
Of literal collab.
I was born into like a.
A ballerina.
Yeah, like, I mean, that's just not, you know.
We exist in the context or whatever Kamala says,
it's actually so true.
You go queen, brat, whatever.
But I think this girl, Hannah Neelman,
would have been exceptional and remarkable
no matter what life track she had chosen.
She would have been a ballerina for a little longer
and then probably married and had slightly less kids, maybe.
Whether or not you like her,
whether or not you believe her
about her own motives and priorities,
she is just a example of human excellence.
Yeah.
And she does, she is very personable obviously.
And like,
her videos are popular for a reason. They have like, she has like a soothing presence
and she's making like a goat cheese tartlet.
And so I get a lot of like algorithmic trad cats,
not trad cats, sorry, just regular trad content
on Instagram.
And I, because I engage with it,
because I do find it like not truly aspirational
because I don't wanna live on a farm like at all,
but like aspirational enough where I'm like,
remember two weeks ago when I went to the farmer's market,
that was, I went to the farm, I was like,
oh, I'm gonna to buy some produce.
I like made a bowl.
Which farmer's market?
There's one by my house.
Oh, cute.
I'm not going to dox myself because I might go there again.
But yeah, then, you know, I go once and yeah, I like to think like, oh, maybe I'll make
a, maybe I'll make a tart.
You feel refreshed and healthy and like anything is possible.
It's almost like watching a Trump speech.
Yeah, during the like couple days a month,
I don't feel like hormonally dysregulated
and have enough energy to do something.
I'm like, maybe I'll make a fucking little meal.
Hey, I don't know if I mentioned this,
but I dropped almost like $400 at the LibTard store
at the apple picking farm we went to with the baby.
What'd you get?
Like so much alcohol, even though I'm not drinking,
because they're known for their hard cider.
But I was rationalizing it,
like I'm just gonna give this away as gifts.
And then just like produce, the libtards.
Wow, that's nice.
Yeah, see that's what really,
that's what the trad wife lifestyle is really about,
is consuming.
Consumption.
Yeah, it's, buying something that makes
you feel like you are like doing the right things and like you could be a ballerina farm. Yeah,
it's literally being a good little liberal. Yeah, exactly. And consuming in a way that
is like good for the environment and sustainable and like politically conscious and all this stuff.
And also like, yeah, it's really hitting the right mark
for a lot of people, I think all around.
Yeah, but these are all like consumer lifestyles
that women specifically buy into.
Every time people pile on me online,
I do a lot of stress online shopping.
Me too, yeah.
Which is really good for the economy. So you're welcome.
Oh, so then a stimulus package.
Very non environmentally friendly when I make that net a portier
order to cheer myself up after a tough day online.
You know what I noticed that retailers do now? That when you're checking out,
they give you the option of using a recycled box.
Yeah, I say, nope.
Yep, me too.
I'm like, uh-oh.
I'm not ordering net-a-portier for a ugly brown box.
I want the big bag with the bow
and I wanna get in the bag after.
No, but I don't even mean like the non-descript brown box
versus like the fancy branded box.
I mean like a box that was recycled from another customer
who returned something.
Which is like insane.
Anyway, what were you gonna say?
I forgot.
Something about tradwifery, consuming.
Consuming, yeah.
Bradwifery, consuming. Consuming, yeah.
Fuck, oh, right, then this video was circulating of,
but she obviously filmed and posted this broad
say what you will, like knows what she's doing.
It's a video of her husband giving her a birthday present.
Yeah, and it's like a linen or muslin egg apron.
It's a really ugly egg apron with lots of-
Empty egg apron.
You can put an empty egg carton in,
and divorces are just crazy.
He's like, that's it, you're used up, bitch.
You can watch.
No, yeah, it's like some knitted egg apron from,
I didn't even, that's like some knitted egg apron from,
I didn't even, that's how not tried I am. I didn't even know that what an egg apron,
I guess if you have a big family,
you got to make lots of eggs for that.
So you carry them in an apron on your body
instead of in a normal egg carton.
Oh, because you're a pig.
The farm you're going to get the eggs from.
Yeah, we're so stupid.
We're so stupid.
I'm like, you dumb bitch.
I'm like, you don't need a thing.
I know.
We're corrupted by modernity.
When I'm making an omelet for my boyfriend,
I don't need an egg, a friend.
But yeah, she's going out to collect the chicken coop
and collecting the eggs.
I had to think about what a barn or a shed
where chickens live is called.
But as she's opening the gift,
she's sort of jokingly slash earnestly, whatever,
what is it Freud says about every joke, you know,
being true is she's saying like,
oh, I hope it's plane tickets to Greece.
And he's like, and then, yeah, everyone is like,
all across the political spectrum,
women are responding to this video being like,
oh, I feel so bad for her, he's clearly abusing her,
the way he says you're welcome is so snide.
He's a prick, I'm sure he's a kind of unpleasant guy.
He's also playing a part.
He's an actor in her drama.
He's a supporting actor in her drama.
And the children are extras.
And it's like-
She's the main character baby.
It's like her world baby.
And all arena from his world are just living in it.
He is I think self consciously for his own ego
trying to play a kind of traditionally masculine role.
Well, he's a hands on father.
He does like, you know.
Sure, but he doesn't wanna be out there
depicted as some like nebbish neurotic cock, right?
I think he's, I don't think he's autistic,
but I think he's like more,
I think he's probably not very smart again.
Like the children are very successful, wealthy people
tend to be like kind of middling typically.
And she's obviously also like she's obviously pretty smart and she's humoring.
She's smarter than him.
Humor their husbands and boyfriends.
She's definitely smarter than him and can def like if she really wanted to go to Greece,
she would.
Well, I mean, I think the implication there also
is that he probably teased or promised Greece tickets
that are coming at a later date.
She's obviously getting other stuff
than just a fucking egg apron.
Yeah.
I'm sure she's getting a Chanel bag,
some Miu Miu flats, tickets toickets to Grease. A spa day.
Yeah, I saw someone being like,
see women, this is a reminder that no matter how good you,
it's such cope, like no matter how doting and good
and trad you are, men will still treat you like shit
and not love you.
They're not loving you, right?
And it's like, their relationship's probably pretty good.
It's clearly nutting and hurt absolute time.
So that you know they're sexually active.
They all seem really happy.
They have beautiful teeth.
Like you really can't.
The kids are mad cute.
The kids are insanely cute.
And like honestly, once you have eight,
they take care of themselves.
Like. Exactly, well that's like the big trade off. It's not even that hard they take care of themselves. Like.
Exactly.
Well, that's like the big trade off.
Not even that hard to take care of.
I have zero kids.
And then having like eight to 11.
Yeah.
Like you're spread way more thinly
and you can't devote as much love and attention
to every single one, but they sort of.
Yeah.
Socialize each other and it builds character.
I know some Catholics who are from very large families again,
due to the no loads refused policy.
And they're like in smads sweet like group chats
with all their siblings and all are really close
and like it's really wholesome and actually very nice.
And but yeah, I have zero children or pets
and I'm like eight kids is easier.
That's what people don't realize is once you have eight.
They'll help you run your day pop shop.
Yeah, mommy needs you to go to the real real store
and make some returns.
I called Anna the other day
because we're Ruthless business women
and we had to discuss some business on the phone
and she was at Zara making some returns.
So we're not LARPing, we really are this retarded.
I was in the process of buying some trad baby sale items.
Cute. Oh yeah, Zara Kids. It's so cute. some trad baby sale items.
Cute. Oh yeah, Zara Kids.
It's so cute.
It's not like Zara Woman, which is like Puerto Rican whore.
Zara man is like Colombian rat boy.
Zara Kids is literally like a ballerina farm.
Like linen overalls and suede boat shoes.
Shit, I would wear.
I remember my parents, we were a big gap family.
We all like in the 90s, we like to all get decked out
in the gap and my parents,
when I was a kid shopping at Baby Gap, Gap Kids,
whatever they were like, oh, I wish like they made
adult clothes that were this like, you know, and I, they were like, oh, I wish they made adult clothes that were this,
and I thought they were kind of humoring me
and trying to make me feel more grown up
and cool or something.
But in hindsight, I'm like, no, these kids' clothes are fab.
Luckily, I'm so small.
Yeah.
Perfect fit.
Baby seat.
No, I've been drinking a lot of beer, low-key,
and getting fat, and I've decided to just kind of rock
with it for a while.
And then, yeah, turn my life around and like,
Then kill yourself.
But you have to time it with the next pile on,
so those people feel guilty and remorseful,
not that they ever will.
I'm gonna detonate the vest
and they really won't know what to think. Yeah, you gotta leave a note.
Yeah, I'm gonna get fat and kill us. Like David Foster. Like your hero David Foster.
Yeah, meet the...
Does anyone want to write a little article about the girl
meet the girl is gonna get fat and kill herself.
Gap is back baby.
Every major retailer now,
FYI has really cute Olympics themed merch.
Ralph Lauren has some nice stuff that I almost bought,
but it was a little too high of a price point
for basically what I wanted was like a brandy,
garment. Yeah, Gap.
Gap, cool. Gap Olympics aesthetic is amazing.
I love the Olympics.
Speaking of which, it goes completely against
the opening ceremony shenanigans
that everybody's talking about,
because it's like preppy, super preppy,
trad, like hearkening back to 90s Americana.
Yeah, love.
The people, yeah, the silent majority
has spoken with their dollar,
and they want preppy, nice throwback.
Well, the Olympics are always, yeah,
inherently like quasi-fascistic
because it's about strength and athletic competition.
And like-
Yeah, it's about showcasing-
And like nationalism.
The physical excellence of athletes.
From specific nations.
It's like overtly nationalistic, overtly like,
fasci, you could say.
And the opening ceremony I did,
I wasn't like offended or scandalized by it
because it's very like par for the course
for France at this point and Europe kind of at large,
they like are not, they'd have pretty bad taste over there.
And I looked up the creative director
and it's some guy, I think his name is Thomas Jolly
or something, nominal determinism.
And he, yeah, is some gay French fucking guy
who's doing his spin on like a Cirque du Soleil
but like drag race, like it's all the same.
Galeano show.
Shitty aesthetic that we're all, it's like it's all the same. Galeano show. Shitty aesthetic that we're all,
it's like, it's just the West has fallen,
whatever it's on over it.
I did find it like, just sort of like kind of ugly and random,
but mostly just like it's offensive to athletes
to have like fat people.
Yeah, it's like.
Do the opening ceremony yeah it's like do the opening ceremony
it's like fat tattooed like South Park water park minority people reenacting the
Last Supper that's yeah it's really not even satanic and blasphemous it wasn't
as you know I didn't watch it I only saw the clips and I couldn't tell if it was like it was a parody
It wasn't even really that it was just dabbling though as the French have a right to do with like Catholic aesthetics
Which is like at this point also such a tired stupid trope
It's like no one's genuinely offended by it the same way. No one's genuinely offended by me
Shooting a terrorist effigy. It's like we're all just like these symbols
at this point are so-
People are just like bored and tired.
They're over it.
Yeah.
And I think like, yeah,
protracting an outrage cycle about the opening ceremony
is also disrespectful to the athletes
because it's like, let's focus,
let's let the sport speak for itself.
And the church.
And the church.
Sure.
Because you are blaspheming the name of God
to make some fake and gay point
about how like a fatties and blacks
should not be allowed to perform
at the opening ceremony at the Olympics.
Yeah, it's like we're just way, we know our sputumize.
I don't know, they were, I saw someone posting
a ceremony from 2004. That was quite cool.
They did a very like Grecian kind of like people
kind of looking like statues, but like kind of,
you know, I remember it was hot
and it was like kind of more beautiful
and really coherent.
But I don't remember the last time
there was like kind of more beautiful and really coherent and but I don't remember the last time there was like an
Olympics opening ceremony where I legitimately was like
The specter like it's really honoring like this a meet like the Olympics are still amazing
Yeah, the Merchant the Gap's amazing. Let's focus on the good things and let's like I'm not on the conservatards do more to
Dishonor the name of Christ than gender goblins ever could.
I mean, they're trying. Because they're certainly trying. They pretend to be
among his ranks and they're really not. They're Pharisees.
I don't like that. It doesn't sit well with me. I mean God, Jesus, these other people have announced and identified themselves as like enemies of God and Christ. Right.
You mean gay people? Or just like the Satanic gay people? Like MPC, Oomphie,
Kamala's brat, gender goblin, Bushwish retard.
So true, yeah.
Yeah, but the thing that God Jesus talks about
almost more than anything is hypocrites. Like he's really unhappy with hypocrisy
almost more than anything.
So in that way, yeah, like the Christian right
that gets up in arms about this sort of stuff
and does espouse these kind of like, yeah,
crisis king dunking sessions and stuff
is like that's actually, God doesn't like that.
Yeah, like the woke hearts are actually not hypocritical
in this one respect.
Yeah, they do hate God.
Because they actually just say they do hate religion,
even though they subscribe to a weird inverted religion
of their own.
Yeah, no I saw-
They're not really lying
or misrepresenting themselves here.
I saw some French commentator who I, you know, I don't know who anyone is or what they're
talking about basically, but he was like, in France, we are inclusionary.
And it is cool.
And we would not know religious extremists will tell us what to do. And then someone was like, but you mock
and desecrate LGBT, which is like the LGBT community,
which is their religion.
And I was like, sure, it sure is.
But it's, yeah, it's like farcical, basically.
You can't get too upset about it
because it's so, it's not even like,
but is it the greatest trick the devil ever played
was convincing people he didn't exist?
Like he's not, the devil's not doing that, you know?
He's not like dressing up like the devil.
And they can put him doing it.
I just feel bad for all these like Chinese
and Nigerian and like Belarusarussian athletes who go there.
Well, I think, yeah.
To, you know, win a medal.
Yeah, to do something really important.
And excel at sports.
Yeah, to do the most important moment in their whole lives.
In their life potentially and like for the glory of their nation.
Yeah. And like their shot at glory has to be like hijacked by
that's what I mean.
Panic, pedo panic discourse.
Yeah. But they're focused on others.
They're not tripping. They're not on X.
They don't even know.
There's not a lot of Olympic athletes on X.
I'd wager.
Probably not.
They're on to bigger and brighter things.
I wish them, I wish all the athletes
the best of luck at the Olympic games.
They're on the Olympic bang bus.
Those photos of Trump from 2004 also,
I sent them to you where he's running
with the torch by Bergdorfs.
I was on a plane when I saw it and it made me wanna cry.
I was tearing up. I was like, this plane when I saw it and it made me want to cry. I was like tearing up.
I was like this is one of those beautiful images I've ever seen.
He's so cute.
He's like, yeah, 20 years younger.
So he's like, you know, about the same.
He looks even kind of more tan and chatted.
Now the cool thing, I guess about aging is that then when you
see younger photos, they look, I guess, about aging is that then when you see younger photos,
they look, you know, when you're really old
and then you look at a picture of yourself
when you're like only 50 or something.
You're like, wow, you look so, you're glow,
you look at that youthful glow.
And his little sweatsuit, oh my God, he's like, oh.
And his old sweatsuit. Oh my God.
He's like, oh.
I want to listen to the Rolling Stones
with Donald Trump so bad.
I know, Steve Reich.
If I got to meet him, I would just say,
hey, let's, he doesn't drink.
I guess we couldn't crack a cold one,
but we could just listen to the Rolling Stones and.
They're like, hey, I'm trying to get fat
and kill myself from drinking beer.
Do you want to do it just this once for me?
Would you drink a Sapporo, Mr. Trump?
He's like, I love you, Dasha.
This one's for you.
Oh, just to circle back, I guess, to Vance
Oh, just to circle back, I guess, to Vance is what I don't
like that I now get the Vance texts, you know, because I'm like, I just met this boob.
He's not, you know, and I got a text that was like,
Dasha, it's Trump, will you sign JD Vance's birthday card?
I don't like any of the birthday card stuff
because I'm not that stupid. But yeah, it's like, I don't need to of the birthday card stuff. Cause I'm not, you know, I'm not that stupid.
But yeah, it's like, I don't need to get a text from Trump,
the Trump campaign telling me that JD Vance's birthdays
in seven days.
Like I'm like, I don't care.
Don't try and don't, you know,
let me get to know this guy a little bit.
Like I'm not just gonna-
Hey, Anna, Dasha, it's JD.
I'm at sovereign house.
Cracking a cold brew ski with the boys.
Can you get down here quick?
No problem JD. We're on it.
Receiving orders from Mr. Teal.
Yeah.
No, the thing I don't like about JD Vance the most is that he looks like he's wearing eyeliner.
Yeah, he has those Hanani eyes. Like uncharacteristically pretty feminine eyes.
Too blue, too kind of, yeah, I'm like, what is it? Are you wearing eyeliner? Makes me not trust him.
He looks like one of those white Taliban.
He does.
And yeah, he's still like refining, obviously his like political instincts.
Like messaging.
Yeah, he's not, he's far from perfect,
but yeah, like you said on our last up,
like give Vance a chance.
I'm like rocking with Trump.
He made this, I ultimately, you know,
I want him to be the dictator of America for,
may he reign for a thousand years,
so hopefully Vance won't even be the pres,
but you know, he was chosen by our Fuhrer, Donald Trump,
to be his running mate,
and you have to just kind of trust, you know, the process.
Trust the vision, I don't know.
Who am I to say?
Trust, you know, it's what God wanted.
So true.
And similarly, yeah, he wanted like Kamala
doing her thing extra democratically.
I'm not that attached to democracy in the first place.
I'm like, fuck it, sure.
Hey girls, it's Kamala.
I'm at Dimes Deli with Ella.
Come through.
Sometimes,
cause you know, you have like your own,
like you're so like in your own life
that you don't really think about like
How you've changed or how you're perceived but then sometimes I hear us talking and we're like my dictator my fear
I mean, I'm just being I'm being I know you know, I'm just being cute. I know I know what's the problem
I know, I'm just being cute. I know, I know.
What's the problem?
I know.
Do you want, have we done an hour and a half?
That's fine with me.
I feel like that was a good docket, you know?
I'm pleased with like the spiciness
of the recent news cycle.
Same. It's nice to have, you know,
it's nice when we have stuff to talk about
and aren't like have don't have to really like strain.
Yeah.
I don't have to like Google women
to see like what's in the news.
We have to like address Hawk to a girl.
Yeah, just good to election year politics.
Yeah.
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