Red Scare - Burgirl Records

The ladies discuss the Antifa Athena, AOC's House floor theatrics, Burger Records getting canceled, Kanye's latest meltdown, and review Taylor Swift's new album.

The Zoom sounds, the sound quality is really the best on the Zoom. I know. Sorry, I'm like making gross mouth noises. Some people like that. I think they like the clinking of ice or like sipping. I don't think they like gross chewing. I mean, I listened to some ASMRs of like your girlfriend's a kitten and she's like licking

your ears and they definitely made a lot of mouth sounds like slurping and stuff. Yeah, but it's weird. It's weird how that works with humans because animal sounds are much less annoying and infuriating than human sounds. Like I don't get no noise rage from my cat snoring, but I get noise rage from like a man snoring. Right. Because animals are so innocent.

I don't even know. Like I don't know why they're not infuriating. It makes me think that there's some sort of like underlying subconscious resentment. You've never been annoyed by like a dog with like respiratory problems and you know it's not its fault, but you're still kind of like, oh, like shut up. Yeah, maybe, but only if I didn't think the dog was cute. You know what I'm saying? If it's a cute dog, then I was like, then I'm like, oh, it's funny because people tolerate

in animals what they don't tolerate in humans such as like disability or like dwarfism or whatever. Shitting inside. Yeah. They're like, oh, look at that cat with tiny one one inch stump legs and they see like a human who's a dwarf and they're like, kill him. Just sitting on the couch. Yeah.

Sorry. Oh God. I dosed myself. Yeah. Dosh is high. I just recklessly took an out of all and I got way too high and that's just my own fault. Do you know how much you took? No, it was just like maybe like 40 million.

I don't know. That's a lot. I mean, I didn't think about it and then it took me a while to like leave. Yeah. I was like sitting on my floor like staring into the mid distance. Yeah. But I'm drinking water. I'm trying to pull it together.

Yeah. Are you okay to pod? Yeah. We should just stop now and it'll be a bless you two minute and 22 seconds. I'm okay to pod. I mean, yeah. We're not talking about anything too hard hitting today. I'm mostly prepared.

Yeah. You know, I just took like 10 milligrams to get on Dosh's level. So I'm going to get progressively more retarded. Yeah. The takes will get more psychedelic. Yeah. So that girl in Portland to research that story, I googled Portland pussy girl. And um, nothing came up and I had to modify, but, um, except for like porn.

Yeah. So then I had to look up like naked woman protest. Is there antifa porn? Interesting. Is that a genre that will be born from the rubble from the ruin of a. That's very interesting. American Luther and Reiter. Well, I feel like BDSM people are usually antifa.

There's like definitely overlap. Yeah. So it'd have to be like, maybe you're like a factory worker and your Dom is like, he owns the factory. You know, um, it's probably pretty political, but I bet the dynamics are pretty BDSM centric. The antifa porn. Yeah. I want to know if there's like a targeted marketed genre, like Jamie Peck has done porn,

right? She's kind of antifa, but she's not. I'm just saying, but a statement of fact, not a value. I didn't say anything mean. Um, yeah, a lot of some other people on the, on the left have done porn that I will not be naming names on like that girl in the ex on mobile thread. I got fappening. And basically when I posted my own nudes on my finstile, I was on Ambien.

Yeah. But you've done like nude scenes in movies. So there's stuff available. Yeah. Mr. Skin. Yeah. But I mean, like, you know, you can have like a porn movie that's like a Karen in like yoga pants getting pulled out of her car by Antifa and gang banged in the Cha zone.

Oh my God. There's like trash everywhere. Yeah. There's like, you do it next to a fire and it's like guys with bandanas and like full sleeve tattoos. I mean, that's what people want. That's what their, that's what their libidinal drives are to watch Antifa ravage Karen's. No, I mean, Antifa, like they want to have these like kind of libidinally charged kind

of combative experiences. Yeah. It is like weird and sexual has like a horny tinge. Yeah. Yeah. I just Googled Antifa Athena because she was called the Portland Athena because she's like, you know, fertility, right? Bigger Greek goddess.

She showed her pussy to the cops. Yeah. I did that pose in front of my mirror. Like after or? Yeah. I don't like to see what. I like that you're really committed to acting. It's cool.

That's method. I just want to just like feel the, the affect of it, I guess, but yeah, people really liked this image, but there's no frontal. We don't even know what she looks like. She's mysterious. She's wearing a beanie. Yeah. Disgusting.

Yeah. Do you think she's a butter face? But her pussy is so beautiful that it doesn't matter. Yeah. It made those police officers throw down their shields. They resigned from the force that day. Adam McKay, the director who did like fucking whatever, Talladega nights and like, whatever. Snap Brothers.

A great movie. What is it? Snap Brothers. Oh yeah. Yeah. What is that? Will Ferrell. And what's his face?

The guy who kind of looks like Will Ferrell, but if you smushed his head, John C. Riley. John C. Riley, who one time helped me up when I was roller skating. I like fell down at a roller rink and this guy helped me up and it was John C. Riley. And he's really secretly very good at like roller skating and does it recreationally. That guy's probably really popular with the ladies. I've never been starstruck before honestly until John C. Riley. I like was very like taken aback by him. He has he has a surreal charisma.

Yeah. He has he has like a face like a very funny. Yeah. He's a lot of charisma. He's funny. He and he looks kind of like a chewed up baseball mitt, which women find is irresistible. Pretty good actor. Seems like he's tall.

Yeah. He is. He's very big. Yeah. He's like a big he seems very kind. Yeah. I like I think the first time I was starstruck was when I saw Philip Seymour Hoffman schlepping around like the West Village in pajama pants and like house slippers.

Yeah. That's a big one because you really respect their their celebrity. Yeah. You don't want to like encroach on it. Yeah. He's kind of like a disheveled like Tony Soprano getting the newspaper in the morning like Matt Christmas big hulking male thing. He like doesn't want to be Philip Seymour Hoffman.

He just is. Yeah. He has to like live with that burden. Yeah. So Adam McKay tweeted I still can't get over this image. I don't know if I ever will. It's horrifying and beautiful and profane and sacred. I really hope we never find out who she is.

America loves to wreck things with names and jobs and celebrity. Horny police. Yeah. It's. That's my man. Horny. And he also tweeted some other iconic images of the so-called trouble times of St. Louis gun couple.

This young woman who looks kind of like an enormous hipster Katie from Vanderpump rules girl and is holding a my body my choice placard but she's talking about masks not abortion. I've seen that. And then that like iconic black girl standing in the flowing maxi dress like standing down cops and riot gear and Baton Rouge Louisiana. Yeah. And I was like where's the sailor socialism thing. Oh my God.

I told him I told him I had to because I was like that is that not an iconic image. This is that that's the image that really started. Thank you. This whole year. What about the homosexuals? Which homosexuals that they sailor socialism resonated with them. Oh yeah. Because I was drinking iced coffee and being a bitch which you guys love.

Yeah. I'm looking adorable but yeah he's horny. He's horny posting and he's pointing out a very banal thing about like how our times are aesthetic. Yeah. And unfortunately that is that it sucks dick. Yeah it sucks dick and they're said because they're nothing out there's nothing else that they could be they're not like spiritual or intellectual or even cultural they're

just purely aesthetic. And I saw a couple of people complaining that if she had been fat and or black this image wouldn't have gone as viral which is bullshit because it actually would have been just as if not more. I don't know. I don't know. I think that there's definitely something like non-threatening about it being like a skinny white girl.

Yeah. I heard she was Asian. Okay. Yeah. She's a little like ambiguous but I don't know. I think people do yeah she's less it would be more threatening it would probably go viral but it would be a totally different context. It wouldn't be like look at this like sacred and profile image.

She emerged as an apparition to be like depoliticized or something but yeah but another case of white women making it all about themselves or Asian women who are effectively white now in this economy. Do you think is that do you think her pussy is really beautiful? Is that the I don't think the cops could have seen her pussy from that distance with goggles and she'll yeah but just what do you think I mean I don't think any pussies are that beautiful yeah I don't know. I think it's a Psyop it's like it was not popping it wasn't it was fine she had a nice

spot but it was like she had a big fat yeah she was like a Pog I wish she was a Pog now that would be a powerful image yeah if she had like a tiny like four inch waist and like sixty three inch hips it would have been cooler if she like showed them her butthole like flipped around and spread cheek yeah the beanie was a dead giveaway that it was like a Psyop totally wearing a fucking wig yeah I mean I don't know what's going on in Portland it's there was a protest last night in New York City that that was like in solidarity with Portland but like Portland is like a city with like 0.8 black people again it but there but the problems escalated now because they're yeah they're a very protesty

culture yeah and now there's like I was pronounced it wrong Gestapo Gestapo Gestapo Gestapo Gestapo Gestalt theory Gestapo there's like it's the optics are really bad and it seems like now we're just like oppressing people who just want to like just let them have Portland yeah I mean there's a weird situation where there's all these rumors of like uniformed people in black vans snatching protesters off the street and like disappearing them and Trump I guess has deployed feds up in there in part but also they've created this impossible situation where like the cops can't do anything if they react and try to enforce the order you know everybody's looking at them so they have to find all these other covert ways to like wrangle

people and keep the peace which really means probably to continue to divide people and allow them to fight each other in the street for like the optics I don't know and I liked um I liked Caitlyn Flanagan's take on it she said what's happening in Portland is in the night kitchen and the protesters have the upper hand they've taunted Trump thump into sending his goons who are typically competent enough to outrage the nation but too incompetent to send the kids off to bed Portland hands off and it's like you know it it feels like you know I don't really trust the Twitter accounts of guys and vans disappearing people I think each side has a particular there's like you know that it's like I think taebi said this there's like a fox news narrative that the

protesters are all like anti-fa retards feels like a scythe even if it's not yeah it's like we're making our own psyops yeah we're like generating them ourselves yeah it's like a user-generated psyops yeah that's what's so dark about it and this whole thing is like literally a bonding activity for anti-social people because they you know this is the only way that you can feel like political pretense um but like then there's the msnbc narrative that the authorities are all bad and evil and poor michael tracy is caught in the middle of it what happened with tracy I don't know he's in portland but like he's like the one roving journalist who's like they hate him they hate him yeah he probably likes it I think he likes he likes the negative attention he loves

the hate yeah he gets he got positive attention in new Hampshire oh yeah those those people yeah people are like asking him for his autograph and shit and I was like they didn't even know who the fuck we were yeah I was like in New York City we're kind of a big deal do you even know what red scare is um then there's all this um you know roadblock protesting going on which I only learned about now because a couple of guys were mansplaining it to me there's it's when protesters circle a car and try to prevent like random people from leaving the site because um if they step on the gas and try to accelerate they can be tried for like manslaughter or murder oh my god and it's you know this thing that's like designed it you know you catch like random people on the

crossfire and it's like everything's like a provocation by aggressors masquerading as victims like totally you know imagine if you were driving in a car and some people circled your car like wouldn't your first instinct be to pump the gas oh my god I'd be so scared I know yeah um and there was a guy who was shot dead in Austin by the driver of one of these cars and then on second look it turned out that he was arming or um pointing an ak-47 into the car oh my god so the guy so the guy the driver shot and killed him but that's like self-defense right if somebody's point if you're like staring down the barrel of a gun I mean I mean what you know in a yeah there's a horrible violence yeah feels senseless yeah and like nobody's right like nobody's right nobody's wrong

whatever but like um and of course they're not reporting the race of the driver because he's probably not white but he's in custody and he's cooperating because he didn't do anything wrong technically yeah yeah I mean it sucks it just sucks ass yeah and it just yeah it's weird because it's like what's that term like simulacrum yeah I'm like getting high now yeah the simulacrum well the idea is that the the simulacrum refers back to a reference right yeah it's like a map yeah but now we have a bunch of simulacra without reference you know like this pussy Portland pussy girl and everything it's like literally damaged yeah it's really like gross the beanie the beanie was offensive come on she could be a little hotter she should have yeah she should have had

this is one of those times we're having like those sausage curls that I love like the news anchor sausage curls would have been yeah a good thing I guess I don't know it there's something just just taking the context out of it there's something really gross about being fully naked but wearing it cheap five dollar bodega beanie and sitting on the on the ground with your like labia brushing against gross couldn't be me there's just like yeah like fucking pebbles like that yeah you know when you go to the beach and you get sand everywhere and there's like sand in your pussy and under your boobs and you're like a gross swamp monster oh that's how the tip feels in the chas yeah um I can you Matt would you ever get naked for to protest I would never protest no yeah I'm

really god no I can't imagine I would show my tits like at a sporting event or yeah I was really drunk yeah show my tits and I'm in like almost have on camera you've done this before yeah I've like shown my tits when I was drunk yeah but yeah I don't know what I was gonna say oh yeah also I was like watching that video of like AOC on the house for I can't even I can't it's so cringy to me I can't I know everything but that's the thing like everything even called her a bitch and she like made all these sassy videos Ted Ted Yoho he's a congress Ted yo yo okay um called her a fucking bitch which like by the way if somebody calls you if another she kind of is politician but if another politician publicly calls you a fucking bitch that means you've won

yeah so true like you don't even have to clap back he looks bad automatically totally what he did was totally inappropriate you don't call a woman a fucking bitch I don't care if it's like AOC or whoever it's true um but like I think you know men find her to be very scary when my friend's dad like is very scared like I've noticed a kind of ambient fear that men some like kinds of men really have about AOC is it like a horny kind of fear or it's weird it's definitely kind of resent and fullness of like her desirability is built in there it's complicated yeah your friend's dad hates AOC yeah and like I've heard I feel like there's a general kind of sentiment that's like she's scary you know yeah I don't even I don't think she's I think like Ilhan's scary I don't

think AOC is scary but she's like just annoying I experience her as mostly annoying I actually don't experience her at all as a person like I can't imagine what she's like as a person nor do I care to find out you know but um like do you know like do you really have to hijack the house floor to deliver a lesson in decency which is what like the New Yorker called it and it was like no it was the lesson in like modlin manipulative indecency like as the daughter of a father who no longer is alive to witness his daughter being called a fat cunt I think it's time for you to make a statement Anna yeah if I pull that kind of move speak out against the haters no if I pull that kind of move my f***ing dad would come out of the grave and call me a f***ing b***h

totally oh man but yeah oh my god but everything is like I was thinking about how like the real Russiagate isn't that there's collusion which there isn't it's that there's been like a cultural Russification and everything resembles the late Soviet Union or like post yeah that's the real Russiagate or like Russia pill right there current heavily privatized Russia like Antifa Athena is just pussy riot for Americans it's the same shits like them f***ing and sucking in a museum totally but I have to say that Nostra whatever her name is Natasha I don't remember that she's hot gorgeous oh my god she's so beautiful and she fully sold out she has like a techno outfit now

and plays it like gay guy like Molly festivals yeah really yeah she makes like weird stupid glitchy music that's that like showing your pussy and being political literally yeah like hating the cops and like showing your pussy like that it's true it really is just god it's all just a void I know it sucks I think I'm like getting high now f*** no that's good the insides you're gonna that's good it will have good insights yeah um anyway but like yeah this Antifa girl reminded me of like do you want a cig oh yeah I would love one um what else are we what's what else is on the docket oh Connie is acting out of pocket Connie's acting out um burger records oh burger boogaloo yeah for sure I was statutory raped by garage rock guys I'm a victim of burger records or just in general

I could cook up some shit for sure yeah but I like would never own up to having sex with those the people I've had sex with like a guy in a hardcore band the girl who f*** the guy who lived in the back of the tape store and he would give her tapes and she was like there was a leverage of power and I was like what are you talking about it's like madness I mean there's allegations that are totally legitimate where they f*** like 14 year olds and yeah it's like really bad but it's also like that's garage rock like yeah and we like move past it as a society I thought but I guess we didn't because they're still like successful wait who's successful like garage like burger records I was like I didn't even thought about them in a year it's well they shut down right officially they

totally did I thought they tried to rebrand they okay they hired a woman they like dismissed all the old management hired a woman to rebrand them and then she did some sort of like burger girl yeah burger girl records burger girl records basically yeah but that's a good episode title love love when it happens yeah but they shut I'm sure that they shut down due to pre-existing like external factors having to do with the economy that makes it very small for small or hard for small independent labels to like yeah exist not even labels but any organization and it which had probably gotten even worse after COVID though I guess if they're selling tapes I'm sure people are buying tapes I don't know I have no idea I mean I don't know but it's all symbolic

regardless yeah like yeah they rebranded but the user is saying that now they just stopped existing yeah oh they're totally done the the woman who was brought in as their new interim president her name is just as the poor gray she announced that after doing like searching moral inventory she wouldn't be able to help them out and so they like disbanded yeah what is going on I don't know but all this cancel culture does feel a little loco I'm gonna be honest oh I thought you were gonna say local because this is very I mean there are lots of low it feels like there's lots of really intense local instances like what happened with Raphman in Montreal and stuff where it's like these little scenes are having you know they're a little like me too moments that are like

very bizarre to me yeah yeah the barrios of leadover production being 21 years old and fucking a guy who lives in the back of a record store like that's your bad wait how old was she 21 oh what yeah okay no it's like but she wasn't sexually experienced until later in life i.e. was shy like total baby shit yeah wait hold on i'm gonna pee real quick okay we're having a stick um I have two left but they're Marvel 100s they're really special what why is that I don't know they're like longer than normal oh okay yeah um yeah I don't know uh the the other thing that I was I was looking at the what was it called like lurked by burger or something they're lured by and then yeah the instagram and you know tactical instagram that revealed that exposed burger records for the

I mean music that like I saw Cole Alexander from the black lips getting me to it and it's like okay that guy's like seems underliterate you know like musicians aren't like how to feel like masterminds they're like what's what are we talking about you know seriously you fucked at Coachella like sounds great I don't know yeah in a tent on the ground while wearing galoshes like you are bad tell you yeah you live in Lauren sweetie I've been there I will say that there is there literally is I think a big problem with like for example like when I was in going to school at Rutgers University in New Brunswick New Jersey there was a big hardcore music scene and a lot of those guys straight up fucked teenagers yeah because they have high school girls coming to their shows

and they're like all ages shows that's exactly what garage rock was in the bay yeah totally and like I believe that there's a lot of creepy underage sex shit and I believe that a lot of them are probably like abusive and like coercive but you know again to your point this is not like an Epstein style pedophilia ring no it's like a micro community or a subculture that's largely obsolete yeah exactly that's like yeah too tolerant of age discrepancies and relationships but not anymore yeah and I mean I think that they're like like I remember even like meeting these guys and it was always some like 28 year old guy with like a chest plate who was also like clearly damaged and totally yeah diabetic and smelled like toe jam like his whole body yeah depressed so like and like

yeah I'm not like you know that is legitimately problematic but I think you handle that on like a private criminal level and I again like it's this it's the same thing on a micro scale with what happened to like Harvey where like he was canceled and you know rightly so I don't think that like you know it's good that he was brought to justice on some level but um he was canceled once his power had already been exhausted right like he wasn't at the height of his power yeah because tulip fever was a flop I love saying that fact but these guys it's like again it's people accelerating things that have already been settled for them beforehand yeah like the fact that there's no independent music industry anymore yeah but I don't I mean I don't know anything about burger

records I guess they were like mainly tape distributors I have no idea I've never I kept saying I kept reading about a band called the growlers and I was like why the fuck am I reading about with the growlers in like 2011 you know like I don't god I can't possibly pay attention to this you know I remember just like it's so pathological it's so deranged yeah it's madness like it's just like yeah like going after like um small marginal records I guess so okay I I jotted down some notes from like this article on the burger records thing and um I guess the the former one of the former kind of founders of burger records said that all of the artists actually own their own music and are free to reissue their own records like independently if they

want and he said like I hate dealing with lawyers so we never signed contracts with the bands which just goes to show how completely grassroots and DIY and small time this effort was like it's barely a record label I think calling it a record label is even a little too yeah but I mean fuck those guys they are like kind of like they definitely are gross yeah they're definitely pervs what did they do do you know about any uh grooming I don't know it's like it's really it's hard to read all that you know they need to stop grooming women and do some personal grooming like get a haircut invest in a mason piercing brush my understanding is like that there were some like uh legitimate like statutory rape legally speaking stuff and then there was just like a

total pylon of like random like yeah I fucked Cole Coachella and I was only 18 you know like yeah and he was 29 and like who gives a fucking shit yeah like you're literally an adult by that point in terms of like autonomy over your body yeah but I sympathize I mean like I don't resent these people I sympathize with them like the accusers because it's just like people who feel real again alienated and precarious are lashing out yeah and everything is like designed to enhance your warlike tendencies or whatever social media yeah literally like tactical battleground for these people yeah and the other thing that like dawned on me when I was reading this lurked by burger and also for the last episode lured by burger sorry lured and also the

surviving the art world is that a lot of these accounts read like Chris Crowstile erotic fiction yeah or auto fiction totally I love dick ass yeah it is it's like I like yeah it's like I love dick they're like I love dick journal entries I have some of those yeah I do too I burned all my diaries like uh because I did yeah because I was a surly little gov yeah I can't part with them but they're definitely embarrassing they're yeah they're really I mean I left my diary at a bar once Jesus girl gave it back to me and she said she didn't read and I believe her she seemed like a really good person that's wait do you know the girl no she emailed me because my email was in the front it was like my moleskin that I wrote like really twisted secret just left it at a bar

well okay well she either read or she either read it and didn't say anything or she didn't read it which is you know both nice things to do yeah um but it's like you know a friend of mine said this the other day it's like you fucked me and you didn't even put put on any good music like you fucked me and you didn't even offer me a cigarette after it's like this kind of like erotic micro grievance yeah of like being treated poorly by a man that you desire which is its own kind of like masochistic erotic experience yeah should you want to like lean into it that way you know which is what they're doing yeah I actually somebody on Twitter because I was tweeting about Susan Sontek and Joan Didion in like a moment of like drunkenness and somebody was like you

should read her uh Joan Didion's uh essay on the women's movement which I I read back in college and I actually reread it on her suggestion which is a really good essay by the way um fantastic I think about it a lot but yeah and Didion called it for sure dude and she was like they you know she says in that essay like these women don't want revolution they want romance and they want a kind of restoration of their childhood like a safe space and she talks about I mean the times have changed but she talks about these kind of suburban housewives who like left to their families and went to some big city to pursue their dream of becoming a famous writer or a famous artist and it's like well you know you want everybody to like bow down and pave your way for you and

people's indifference is then interpreted as hostility yeah or they're like tacit judgment or whatever and that women are not um a class that you can't really like organize them that way yeah because they're not they're not a class of people they don't share class interests yeah I really like that point that that um Joan Didion makes in that essay where she talks about like first the kind of middle class revolutionaries try to appeal to the pearls who were much more interested in securing material access and perks for themselves than they tried to make the minorities in a class into a class and they didn't take the bay and so they had to invent a new revolutionary class which was women yeah but yeah that was like great I mean the the idea that like this is all

kind of like in infantilization like women infantilizing themselves and and skirting out of real adult responsibility which is like shitty and not fun they want to get treated with kid gloves but then also like demand to be respected yeah yeah that's well said and it's like again you uh command respect you don't demand respect nobody's gonna give you like you're not automatically granted or warranted respect you really do have to earn it and like the problem with like adult responsibilities isn't that they're abusive or coercive it's that they're boring and tedious and demoralizing on some level well these girls organizing again on these like Instagram accounts I'm so stoned okay

I don't remember what I was gonna say something about girls organizing on Instagram but it was like I lost it that's all right if I if I if I think of it I'll say it yeah you just like uh interject wait where'd you get these 100s hmm some smoke shots oh interesting cool right yeah my mom used to smoke 100s they're nice I remember smoking like a Virginia Slim's extra long cigarette on um the steps of BPL and some like Puerto Rican teens walked by and they were like yo that's a long ass cigarette and I felt so owned damn I was like damn trauma trauma yeah time to call out some minorities from 10 years ago but yeah I don't know it's I think everybody now is like this whole thing that we've talked

about like feminism basically being on some level a racket for people to like wriggle out of responsibility that's what they're doing they were infantilizing themselves they're being like you know oh I wasn't cognizant I was only 21 19 22 whatever yeah I wasn't cognizant of my like I was a little girl basically I was like transgressed against but like also I'm a feminist and like you have to take me seriously and it's like so fucking annoying yeah what what they're you know I understand I understand why like the violence of their like fake trauma feels so real to them because they're like stunted or something I don't know yeah and they can oh it is like the kind of AOCification of the landscape like they perceive again every minor injustice or microaggression or hostility

as like personal to them and it's not but it's much more flattering to live in a world where you're the target and not the collateral for sure and the fact is everybody's collateral everybody is expendable in one way or the other aka no lives matter I'm going to keep hammering that because that's what it is somebody shared like this graphic from like fortune magazine on Twitter that was like I'll pull it up it's insane it was like the amount of wealth owned by generations so the silent generation the baby boomers gen X and millennials and the generator the wealth is measured as real estate corporate equities and mutual fund shares pension entitlements and other and you know the silent generation owned 26.4 trillion baby boomers 65.3 gen X 22.2 and millennials

own 6.1 trillion like a tiny fraction of what baby boomers owned wow which is scary I mean that might doesn't surprise me yeah I guess yeah we don't know you know my parents don't really own anything yeah well that's the thing and it's like millennials now are in this spot where through processes that they have no control over themselves they will never own any assets for the most part and so they're left with what like owning people online that's their only form of ownership I mean but that's like that's all they have yeah that's the only thing they can own yeah it's like a post internet artist yeah they can own some they can't even own his art what yeah if you really wanted to own John Raffin you could just buy all his destroy all his well they like um the Montreal

Gazette I've been like beefing with a fucking Gazette in Montreal that's like he's writing about John Raffin and like they said that like a city like decommissioned one of his like sculptures but it like was already installed it's like they're just being really like fake newsy about like amplifying these girls voices you know and it's like done it feels so sinister and I hate that I'm like that we're steeped in this I know I don't want to fight I don't want to have to fight these battle I don't want to be a foot soldier in the culture war yeah I don't either it sucks it's exhausting yeah call me a bitch shit all the time yeah like you fucking bitch you got to take to the house floor hijack those white house steps my face might be a little asymmetrical I actually

think it's cute some people think my mall is unique but it's I mean it sucks because what how do you like would you prescribe like if you start if you tell people like hey I'm sorry but you have to take responsibility for your life like I refuse to do that because you know I will try to lead by example but like the minute that you start preaching and prescribing to people you start sounding like Bill Cosby or Ronald Reagan pull yourself up by the bootstraps we pontificate yeah but you can't like as a wide cultural strategy tell people like hey sorry pull yourself up by the bootstraps you can't say that to people that have no means or resources by which to do that it's just indecent and rude it's true it's bad manners and like on the other hand you know

these are you know not these we as a generation and a revolutionary class now millennials have abdicated responsibility after the fact and nobody really instilled us with the responsibility I mean yeah Americans for sure immigrant kids I feel yeah it's different for immigrant I'm like pretty American I do it in that regard I like you know I don't have a plan for like taking care of my parents yeah I'm like hoping it works out well I think I've asked you this before but do your parents do they want and expect you to have children um yeah they do like putting pressure on me or anything okay but I think yeah like they would be happy I don't know yeah they I think so would they be disappointed if you didn't have children um uh yeah of course I would be disappointed

if I didn't have children well yeah but I mean the reason I asked is because I was thinking about like we've we have talked about this and a lot of other people have talked about this too how like this whole kind of anti-natalism thing like assault on the family assault on traditional kind of maternal yeah responsibilities or whatever is also an after-the-fact rationalization for the fact that a lot of millennials just feel like they can't afford to have kids right yeah and like that much is true but also I think like their parents boomers of like the older millennials didn't really want or expect them to have kids they didn't care yeah you mean like older millennials yeah like people my age like my mom you know growing up you don't feel pressure to have no

not at all I don't feel any pressure to get married or have kids or anything like my my parents imposed no structure or expectations on me in this regard I guess mine sort of don't either I mean yeah they don't really put pressure on me but we're not I don't know it would feel weird if they did I guess we don't have that kind of relationship yeah yeah I agree I mean it's like you know nobody's at fault and you can't blame anybody for it but it's like um you know I think in more traditional families and immigrant families like like the girls I grew up with who were from like India or Africa like they were expected to have kids it was a great disappointment right if they didn't get married yeah like that sort of

thing um whereas like American boomers well they were like going to Burning Man and stuff and neglecting their kids yeah yeah yeah and they and they were like yeah man life's a trip yeah like good luck out there life's a chas and then you die oh my god I heard that um I heard that a New York chas is over I haven't really been following along yeah I don't know I got burned really bad by Best Buy actually oh yeah you should tell your Best Buy story I got fucked over really fucked by Best Buy and I won't forget it they've wronged me I pleaded with them they like called me the day they were supposed to bring me NAC and said hey we didn't get you we get your AC's not on the truck so we have to like reschedule

your delivery and we'll call you tomorrow they don't call me the next day I call them they're like oh sorry we'll call you tomorrow and then no one calls me again so I keep calling them days go by finally I get an email that's like reschedule your delivery and I can't reschedule it until like at this point it's been like 10 days it's like I was supposed to get NAC and it's so hot in New York I'm being I'm whining I'm sorry but I just felt so powerless and they treated me so poorly and I know it's not the fault of like the phone operators many of whom hung up on me because I realized that I was being like a Karen reason I know I was like I was being like I need to talk to somebody I like really felt like a fucking Karen I was like why can't you help me like please

like so cocked and finally they said they would give me 50 bucks and I was like what the fuck because I was gonna pay like $600 because I wanted them to install it too because I like I'm too scared to you know yeah we have to have a thing I was like $50 so I just didn't um I canceled the whole thing I'm not giving you any money and I got an AC from PC and Richardson and they brought it up to my apartment but I need to install it still and so it's sitting there in a box yeah but it hasn't been that bad it's just kind of hot in my apartment and that's fine do you just have to get a straight guy to do it for you I know doesn't even have to be when you know just like pay some guy in the street yeah I will do it yeah it's their it's literally their job it's their job yeah um

that's why I need traditional gender norms yeah me too that shits mad hard who else is gonna open my email attachments for me Caroline tweeted this but being like a single girl is like scarier than fighting in a war you know because it's it's way more existentially purposeless pair pairless yeah yeah I mean a lot of this is like not hard for me to be like and try to navigate the world on my own you know yeah it's overwhelming I know it sucks that that's the trade-off I guess like being single sucks being in a relationship sucks too and you know in different ways but like the trade-off is it's it's nice to have like a straight man with like functional well-developed arms to lift things for you definitely um just yeah and if there's an intruder they're there you know it's

he pushes you in front of him to use as a human there's all this horrible senseless violence around it's like obviously I don't know you know they make sense to couple yeah whatever I think it's probably getting easier now because everybody's out you know pulling people in New York are like are people really sucking and fucking out there I don't know but it's like it's like women in Tehran where like you know it's mandated that they wear a hijab so they pull it down as far as they down as far as they can this is like people with masks in New York they're like yeah they're like about to put it on yeah that's why where I'm like oh that's why I like iced coffee once again is a great drink because you like if you're carrying an iced coffee then no one can yell at you for

having your mask down because you're like I need to have act I'm drinking an iced coffee I'm doing something yeah I can't wear a mask yeah I'm on a mission to drink this giant iced coffee giant fishbowl goblet of tequila and hypnotic a starbucks because I want to feel like I'm on drugs yeah like fucking wired up um should we talk about Kanye I don't really care either way um we can't talk about Kanye every episode I know yeah that's what he wants he wants us to talk about him and his mouth down yeah um we can talk about Kim's response oh yeah she was interesting that was interesting yeah people were like Anna do you really believe that she wrote it herself does it matter does it matter either an assistant wrote it or she did but she's more than capable

of using kind of like generic legalese language to I've seen her in action yeah she's an intelligent girl and it's like I don't know it doesn't even matter if she wrote it or not because she's a total like symbol for us like yeah doesn't really remember when she was toying with the idea of going to law school which is such an Armenian thing to do I know I love that for her yeah it's so hilarious you're like a trillionaire she loves like justice I love that now I said this on twitter too it's like Kim is like and naturally a very classic Armenian girl and that she's vain and mercantile and like knows the price of everything and loves a good bargain um yeah but is also kind of solid and loyal well what do you make of like the Kardashians like ruining every man who like

comes into their clan like Lamar Odom Scott Disick and I wish we had Camille Palia on the show because I'm sure she would have something to say about this yeah so now like I don't know I feel for Kanye I feel like that kind of pressure is very intense and he's like cracking I mean I think the Kardashians are like a harem of sirens and they work best as an ensemble and they like control and devour everything within their reach yeah they're powerful yeah and like I think her statement was also like damage control yeah of course it wasn't like altruistic did you find it patronizing how she was like yeah lots of crazy people have dreams that might seem like stupid or retarded to you but it sound okay yeah okay I guess we're back sorry yeah it's a technical difficulty it was so

stressful yeah that's the you like came and fixed it he swooped in like a bad out of hell we're back I love men I hope you ever denounce them they're so helpful yeah I shout out to them fellas yeah for really being good sports this is a pro man podcast yeah we're like the man show remember that show is like Adam Grohl and Jimmy Kimmel is really bad I was very young but it kind of lodged itself somewhere in my subconscious I think yeah it was very sexual and I remember being really titillated by it because I had like those girls jumping on trampolines which I thought was like whoa like made me feel horny and weird and I started like watch it but I was too young to like understand it yeah that was interesting that I would know be part of a duo that's pro man um

Adam Corolla and Jimmy Kimmel yeah Jimmy Kimmel but he's from Las Vegas oh really he's a good old good Vegas boy oh okay yeah it was Adam Corolla and Jimmy Kimmel and then Adam Corolla went on to be branded as like some right winger and Jimmy Kimmel went on to be as the Prince of late night liberalism no that's Trevor Noah I guess oh no one likes Trevor Noah yeah I don't buy it yeah yeah it's I forgot who said this but it's like you know back in the day and like the kind of mid-2000s early 2000s um there was like a showdown between Tucker Carlson and John Stewart and like it's funny I remember that what became of them because we all thought that John Stewart would yeah be the guy with the crazy ratings you know yeah totally and now it's Tucker

God should we talk about the Taylor oh yeah I didn't listen I tried to listen to it and then I like was like I don't like it I don't like the I was like I'll listen to it later and then I like got just two stone and I was like oh yeah this this was Dasha's idea to listen to the Taylor Swift album and uh I did well I didn't I actually listened I did more than I I do to fully listen to like yeah five songs fully and then just kind of skipped around in the last songs this is like not Taylor's fault at all and has nothing to do with her per se but like one of my biggest complaints about it is that they packed too many fucking songs on one album um yeah maybe that's why it seemed like so many it was 16 over repetitive and yeah I don't know it was like

she heard doing like a Bob Dylan yeah or something that made me feel bad and I just she's so fake yeah that her doing some like anguished thing I can't it's I don't know I mean all pop stars like manufactured but but her trying to be like kind of like unrefined and authentic and like yeah pokey I'm like oh it's very like it feels wrong yeah yeah the the trick to being a manufactured pop star is that you have to convince people that it's effortless and you're not manufactured it has to be kind of invisible and with this album like the the aesthetic of it it's like trad it's like her in a field sacred you saw the sacred bone yeah records photoshop it's grill peeled I hate that phrase any fucking indie record label thing from that era could probably get me

too just like I'm just thinking I'm like thinking through like yeah all the various like alt scenes I've been peripheral to and like yeah net arts one of them you know just like yeah that's like I don't know every single marginal subculture that we've ever dipped our toes in is rife with predators I guess that's patriarchy yeah but I had to make like a physical note to listen to this album because I it wasn't something that I was at all excited to yeah you're not really a tay I like some of her songs I mean yeah I like actually I you know what I stopped listening to it and then I listened to 1989 because I like that album yeah that's a good album yeah and I listened to Wildest Dreams which Jack Antonoff did not produce I was surprised oh really because it

sounds that one to me is the biggest like Lana ripoff on that record I mean I thought this whole album folklore was her pathetic attempt to do Lana yeah it was literally like in this there's a song called cardigan where she talks about uh him wearing her like a sweater or something and it reminded me of Lana you fit me better than my favorite sweater which is one of her best lines yeah and it was just like that kind of that kind of like yeah but Lana's authentically tortured yeah she's a poet and everyone can tell she's so tortured she got a wine mom highlight exactly what do you think of her new look I haven't seen it oh should I google she looks crazy right now she got like frosty highlight yeah by crazy I mean

totally normie yeah well she is normally yeah she's just like in in her like privately but she seems very normie she was like flip flops and shit yeah she seems very chill but she's like just just actualized in this like persona artistically yeah very very well yeah which I like um but she's like an edgy normie but she she's like packed on like 20 pounds and got crazy blonde highlights and looks like she's from 2003 um and jack tweeted the other day that she looks she's like segueing seamlessly into being like a Jennifer Coolidge milf which is literally what she looks like now wow interesting yeah I didn't expect that arc from Lana I know that's that's what makes her so interesting yeah but like yeah who would think that um in our age of uh no subcultures

or countercultures being like a normie is the coolest thing you can do yeah people find her to be very captivating but yeah there's like too many there are too many songs on this album you'll explain to me that's because of like streaming dynamics because they pay per song so it's like better to it's like economies of scale or whatever for music um but uh there yeah there are two songs in the album cardigan in august that's just sounded like Lana ripoffs that's Lana uh high heels on high heels on

sensual politics are we gonna get slapped with copyright infringement oh god she's so just she's not sensual she's like so sexless and weird like that's why the folklore or whatever it's getting really good reviews people are like oh my god it's just literally an album of filler for the wing it's like millennial pink aesthetics it's not even a bad album it's not bad it's just nothing it's not very notable yeah it's weird and like uh people were like well Kanye's having a meltdown on twitter and Taylor just surprised everybody by releasing an album the day of announcing it and it's like well she she's a professional musician she it's literally her only job is to release albums yeah or whatever um yeah i don't know there's there was another song

we saw that doc miss americana yeah we know we saw everything we needed to see yeah the weird thing about Taylor you know Taylor's like this weird creature who's like objectively attractive but completely void of sexual charisma the only other person i can think of who's like that is aoc they have the same kind of like millennial hr speak yeah lack of any kind of inner soul or depth which is maybe not true of them as people at the end of the day like if you knew them individually or whatever it's libido they don't they they lack a kind of like they're not driven by they don't seem sensual sensually driven yeah you know they're like power hungry that's gross yeah or they're like hungry around someone that's just something but that is like it's not real justice it's not

power symbolic and it's funny because i said this on one of our older episodes where we were talking about like Taylor and and aoc and like caroline callaway and how like this is like a type of woman whose talent is to be hyper hyper articulate about themselves yeah that's all they're good at doing but they're really good at doing that professional narcissists yeah and like a lot of her music is basically just like literally naturalizing for the audience what a good person she is and what a precious little girl she was yeah but there's not even like i like her like kind of more her early stuff that's like really like giggly and like yeah really infantilized yeah i mean her songs i was like i just like hanging out with you like pausey kind of like

child vibes yeah but that's like what suits her yeah she should stick to that instead of trying to do like dylan lana mashup come on um there's that weird song called exile well that's jack bonnie bear right because he produces both of them okay so it's all this it's all his doing but it's he's did a really great job on norman fucking rock well yeah but i think maybe his style yeah he's more coherent with like lana's uh Taylor's just brand oh i don't know i respect her i respect like the commitment to the bit i guess who taylor taylor i mean i respect her a lot we'll never see her slip she's never gonna have like a nervous breakdown you know because she's not like a real artist like kanya is yeah but i think like i'm gonna be very like packaged bundled up you know

yeah always i mean but i respect i think she's a hyper confident really impressive songwriter and lyricist like you can't knock her there yeah it's just like you know i was listening to this song exile which was like a weird little white nationalist anthem where like the man likens the woman to a country that's no longer his homeland and asks what what he's defending wow and it's like this whole kind of like what album is that agro folklor and it's like an agro maga country song and there's like a lot of movie references because like a classic narcissist she's always the main character in the movie about her life whatever it's always been that vibe like getting swept up in like uh yeah and being like innocent and wide-eyed and concerned but i think like it's

it's better when she does that than when she does like badass like shake it off was like that one was really cringe that one made me feel bad or like yeah like reputation i was like come on just don't just be a little baby girl for for everybody yeah be like a nice little cheerleader choir girl teachers pet grade grubber whatever she is but like at her lyrics are like also like again like hyper articulate and like overly detailed but they weirdly like lack any texture because there are a bunch of like weird dead idioms yeah i don't know i can't articulate now what's wrong with her but there's something wrong with her as an artist and that she's like there's nothing you know we're just different

we're on different paths yeah awesome taylor's um karen switch we have different yeah ideologies um i have to you got to kick rocks yeah out of here i gotta get my i gotta get my homework yeah it would it would have been really the best if it was taylor spreading her pussy for the portland cops that's what we deserve beanie girl yeah holding an acoustic guitar see ukulele yeah yeah have a good show see you now