Red Scare - Ethel Cain't

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

The ladies discuss Lana's forthcoming diss track and alleged beef with Ethel Cain, Trump's summit with Putin in Alaska, and Doreen St. Felix's resurfaced racist posts

Hey, all the things you said, running through my head, running through my head, running through my head, running through my head, all the things you said, all the thing is that is night and now. Hey We're back We're back Um Hopefully Mm-hmm Already off to a great side

Yeah Yeah We're just going to be us like talking over each other Yeah Like oh wait no Yeah Well hey it's amazing because the internet connection is not Totally defunct here so that's good

Here in Mexico where you are I'm in CDMAX, unwinding with a Mexican Coke and a shot of tequila, because that's what you do here. Yeah, chilling with your gallerist. Yeah, my gallerist. Love that. Kindly let me, let me, he kindly let me use his laptop. So I'm going to obviously, like, go through his porn search. Yeah, go through all of that.

Yeah, I'm going to go through all his bills. Make sure he's not shorting you at any of those art books. Oh, I can tell this is going to sound. So fucking that. But no, it's good. I'm going to use AI technology to fix it. We're doing a new thing. I went to like their best buy equivalent today to get a USB mic because they didn't bring a laptop or any gear because I did not anticipate extending my month of rest and relaxation. And like the retarded Mexicans like stole the USBC cable and the user. manual out of the box so it was just the mic and I was like reading the box it's like contents include

who would even want that I don't know like why are they like separately selling a user manual or they're like using it for the I don't know well the dryer I bought at sefor the blow dryer bought it at sephora which is not a dyson but it's just basically as expensive and not as good and I'm going to return it yeah and I put it back in the box and everything but I said it came with a diffuser and there was like no diffuser in sight yeah and like who would steal just like a diffuser attachment. So sometimes I feel like things at the factory, there's a supply chain breakdown.

No, no. This was definitely them removing the user manual and the USBC cable because the original, like, seal had been cut open and re-taped with clear tape. Right. It really is, like, real, like, eastbound and downhours up in here. I'm going to get cornrows.

I transcend race, Ombre. Like, and I was thinking, like, I have to go back there and go full care in and make them return my money. But I'm going to need pepe because nobody speaks English. Yeah. Yeah. What a nightmare. But I wonder if Mexicans even have the technology to like process returns.

I love it here so much. It's not a concept in their culture. Yeah. No, I love it here so much because it's like really nice and beautiful. and everyone is like super kind and friendly and I'm spiritually Mexican obviously so I keep like fantasizing about like getting a pet a tear here even though they have frequent earthquakes but then something like this happens where I'm reminded that Mexicans are retarded and I would just like lose my shit. Adios, America. I don't even really like, I'm not even comfortable in like

Miami with the level of Spanish speaking. Yeah. Not to sound like a total, absolutely. bigot. It's just not my thing. And I don't live, I live in an English-speaking country. Yeah. So when I'm in Florida, which is part of America, and people are speaking Spanish to me, I'm like,

I don't think so, Amigo. La Quenta, por favor. I'm just kidding. I have good Spanish pronunciation. I'm just not going to trot it out because I'm shy. I'm inhibited. I don't.

no it must be decent because you're a Russian speaker so you can roll the R that's all that matters it's just a confidence thing yeah totally I just can't dive in and commit you know totally yeah um I was thinking about this like earlier in the vacate and it's like why why don't I just like um sit down and like harness my resources and learn another language because It would be a fairly, like, enjoyable and enlightening and low-pressure hobby versus picking up, like, ceramics or getting into knitting, which requires resources. With this, you basically need, like, just duolingo or something. You just get the raw skill.

Yeah. But then I was like, wait a minute, you retard. You already, like, know two other languages imperfectly and can't be bothered to learn them. I would definitely improve my Russian before. I sought to learn in other language. Same. Your Russian is better than mine, but I... Like, marginally.

You know, we... Slightly older, but it's like, whatever. We both are, yeah. Cringe Larpers. We? Yeah. Well, yeah, but an extremely gay, fun fact is also that I have a minor in Spanish language and literature from Russian...

Or from Rutgers University. Russian University. Russian. university because I was like one of those like annoying like girls who was like I'm going to do a double major and a minor even though like amounted to nothing I'm really ambitious yeah so you do speak Spanish I can totally understand and read Spanish I'm just too cucked to speak it yeah I get that but I can like probably read a book in Spanish like a Borges or um who's the guy who that's really impressive but like like slowly and laboriously I'm not going to lie my Spanish is like not I mean it would be so hard for me to read a book in Russian it would be basically pointless yes have you tried not not in a long I got during the pandemic I got a book of short stories

that was like a penguin edition that had the English and Russian yeah and I was like perfect And then I just didn't even read that. So, yeah. I mean, you just have to, like, set your mind to it and, like, have enough discipline, which none of us to do. And, like, there's no point because, like, the Internet will just, like, translate everything for you. And you can, like, literally speak to people in real time on your phone. Exactly. There's going to be no need.

And, like, Fuentes says, happy birthday, by the way. Though we'll post this probably later. when you talk to young people having brain elasticity Yes Is that I just am not At this point I'm not going to learn a whole new skill I don't have that capital anymore I don't have that raw power

True yeah I'm always like Seaselessly impressed with how smart zoomers are Because you want to be like I'm the older and wiser one here And you're an inexperienced retard But actually they're all pretty bright at least the ones I come into contact with. Selection bias.

I cope by saying it's because they have greater brain elasticity. That is true that. It's nice to be celebrating Nick Fuentes' birthday in the country of his origin. It feels good. To our favorite Mexican. Podcaster. Streamer. Mm-hmm.

A favorite Mexican zoomer. Well, I told you, I sent you photos of all the hossids outside my apartment again. But I didn't say on this show yet, because I still did not have the return of all my cognitive function after the hospital. Yeah. But slowly it came back and then I finally was able to use my incredible mind to do the day-by-day trace back and find out how. Because I, I mean, New York is a cesspool. I could have gotten it anywhere. But low-key, like, I don't leave my apartment that much.

That's, it's like, it's so unfair that, like, I am not really, like, I go out, goes outside once and, like, has to be into. HIV. But per the day-by-day traceback, per my math, the day that I contracted it, there was a very long pro-Palestine demonstration right outside my house that I did walk by four or, five times. And there was a lot of a big Hasidic population there who are also an under-vaccinated population, much like Soviet immigrants from the early 90s. So it was a total Hib bomb. And a Hossid breathed on me and made me sick and die almost. Hib. Hib. A virus. And then I saw them today gathering again. And I was like, I mean, I can't get hip again, probably. I'm immune, because, yeah, but still, like, they can give me measles.

Who knows what else I'm not vaccinated for? Who knows what gaps I have in my Soviet panel? Yeah. Well, you look great. Thank you. Your hair looks nice. You got some of your color back. Thank you.

I'm, like, I'm, like, crouching out of the view of the screen because I have a comically short USB cable, like short bus. Yeah, but it's really, because I look super fug from traveling so much. It takes a toll. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Especially if you're not doing wellness-oriented. Yeah, you were like in the infrared sauna.

Every day. Yeah. Every day we were in L.A. I went in the infrared sauna, sometimes twice. Yeah. Because I knew it was if I kept doing it, it would heal me inevitably. And it basically didn't. It did, yeah.

Yeah. I was like getting wasted and getting high at the stuff. Like Hunter Biden. Seriously. You were going Hunter Biden mode? Cooking my own crack. No, the thing you have to understand is that this is actually much purer than other drugs. It's better this way.

Because you burn away the impurities. It's better than cocaine. I want to die like John Belushi. Oh, so hot. One of the hottest guys of all time. He's really sexy. He's like the perfect. perfect R.S. male. Yeah, he has, I know, I know that, um, he's fat. He's funny. He's a drug

addict. He has breathing problems. He's got a death drive. He has comorbidities from being fat. No, I know, I know people are like sick of me being like, ooh, he's hot because he reminds me of my dad, but John Belushi actually did look a lot like my dad. I mean, he is objectively, he doesn't resemble my father, but even as a teen when I was like obsessed with Saturday Night Live, it was like, when I was like 13, I had one of those like stupid little kid preteen fixations where I was like trying to learn everything I could about Saturday Night Live at the public library. And I remember ripping pictures of John Belushi out of like some book of S&L mystery to keep.

been a binder and look at, because I thought he was so sexy. Yeah. I couldn't stand it. Sexy booh. So, the last night we were in L.A. Was when the Lana Ethel Cain

drama started to transpire, which is one of our docket items. Yes. And I'm feeling much better. better now, but I was like, I was supposed to wake up really early and go to the airport, and literally my heart was like, I made me so anxious. Uh-huh. Because it was like my, the algorithm was just feeding me all this like fake beef, you know,

and like whatever, ethel, ethel cane, right? I think ethel, yeah, ethel. I don't know what ethel is. Evil cane. All of her, like, the canyacs, you know, it was like just showing me this stuff of like people talking about how Ethel Cain was better than Lana and my heart was like beating. I could hear it. It was making me so anxious because I was like, there's no way people could actually think that. Like, they are just on a totally different level. It's not, they're not comparable.

Well, they don't think that, but that is so trans-coigne. No one thinks that. It's a classic, like, true and move to skinwalk someone and then turn on them and then accuse them of being jealous of you. Like, the amount of times people have screamed at us saying, You wish you could pass as well as me. And it's some person with like a five o'clock shadow and a cleft chin. For a biological male to body shame, an amazing female artist who was on lithium or something. I don't know.

She was overweight for some time. But men have naturally lower body fat. Yeah. And it's just not. affair. It's just like that of all thing, you know, it's like it's fine if you want to be a woman or be a trans woman or, you know, good luck and God bless. But like you should be barred from attacking women physically and emotionally. You can't emotionally terrorize real women. Yeah, for not living up to some kind of beauty or thinness standard that you just at all for any reason, automatically

clear because you have a high metabolism. A friend of mine took his girlfriend and her female friends out to dinner once and he quickly figured out which one of them was trans, because she looked like a man. No, but because she was eating more than the others. Like the other ones were like drinking Diet Cokes and picking it salad and this one like housed an entire entree and dessert plus apps. It's male privilege. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the most twisted form because they get the marginalized points of being trans. Yes. And so you can't, they have the victim status.

Yeah. But are also. Not anymore. But they're also like angry, high powered, high tea men. I'm glad that you've been following this because I really can't be bothered. I read some like Teen Vogue explainer about it and was like instantly bored and annoyed because it's like, it's like when people like work out dreams or anecdotes to you. like why should I care like I don't care about this unless I'm in it or someone's fucking as my gay hairdresser former roommate used to say and it's like yeah like it's so hard

to like keep track of the different like tangents and arcs of what's going on well it all yeah what I want to know is like how did the bee start how does Nikki Minaj figure into this sorry, I'm still here. No, no, no, no, no, no. Nikki's just a fan. Yeah, yeah. And she's, she's Alana Stan and she's throwing shade at Ethel. What I'm most interested in in all of this is what you mentioned, which is like what kind of gender goblin Ethel Cain is.

Like, Wikipedia and the media are reporting that her real name is Hayden, Silas, and Hidonia, which no, it isn't. That's not a real name. That's a dead name, okay. Yeah, but this seems to be like a new category distinct from, like, the original AGP versus HSTS taxonomy, which was pioneered by Ray Blanchard. Because on the surface... In need of a software update. On the surface, she does present as an HSTS, but the landscape has just changed so radically, I feel... Well, to me, she presents as an age.

Psychologically. No, she's passable. She's like a twink, ostensibly. She was probably a pretty effeminate boy, no? No, it's like she's like this liminal category because, yes, she's like much younger and better passing than your traditional AGP who's like a middle-aged male. Pervert, classic. Pervert, yeah. The people we don't want in the bathrooms.

Yes. Yeah, who is legitimately, like, motivated by sexual parapheria is, you know, usually relatively affluent, high achieving, whatever, often married with children, et cetera, et cetera. But, like, I don't really get a ton of, like, gay vibes from Ethelcane. Really? Well, because this whole beef is really about Jack Donahue. Yes, they're fighting. The girls are fighting over Jack Donahue. Which is very gay. Yeah. So love to have him as a love object is pretty gay.

Yeah, I would say that this new category is probably categorized by, yeah, having an attraction to biological males, which is against what we know of AGPs who are attracted to biological females and live their life as lesbians, but who have the kind of like intellect and aggression of your traditional AGP. Mm-hmm. I mean, I

had never listened to her music. Same. Riley played one of her songs for me and it was different from what I thought it would be. She sounds a lot like Taylor Swift kind of,

but with like a creaky door or like a spooky kind of production. But it's very, it is very like pop, it was popier than I thought. And it wasn't, I'm sure she has other songs that are much more derivative of Lana and even

this one sort of was because Taylor's derivative of Lana in some ways as well. Everything is downstream of Lana now. It's clear that her whole thing, the whole Americana, gothic guy with a tattoo, hand on your leg thing, like that's textbook Lana. She is very American Gothic. She looks like that famous painting of the couple, the guy holding the pitch for it. and she has that kind of scary puritanical stare, which I associate with the tea community.

Okay, so Lana has a new album in the works with her long-time collaborator, Anton Jackoff, who hates us. Even though we did nothing wrong, we did nothing to him. We need to get him to produce our podcast. Yeah, I know. I know as like pennants.

He can make this right if he could get these levels evened out in the production booth. And, okay, she posted a snippet. Yeah, so apparently this new album has a disc track. Yeah, called all about Ethel. And as soon as Delray posted the snippet, fans began speculating that the lyrics could be about Ethel Kane, not only because she outright mentions Kane by name, but also again. Nothing gets past these fans. They are decoding the words like.

My new song, I hate Ethel Cain. Who is this about? But yeah, in it she says Ethel Cain hated my Instagram posts. Right. And posted that portion of it. I think it's cute reenacting my Chicago pose, yeah. yeah she's referring to the photo of her in jack donoghue outside of a prison in chicago yeah they're visiting the other crackhead from salem i think what is what is his name i don't fucking know

everyone keeps trying to sell me on jack don't get the appeal i mean he's sexy i i know he looks like a jacked working class wigger who like shops at dave's new york i get it but he's but he's gay he's gay but that i know i know i like probably should shouldn't say this, but there's like something so unappealing about a guy who's clearly, like, really finicky about his physical appearance and, and also really calculated in his social positioning. Like, that's not sexy. And like, you're right.

No amount of like working class LARP, though I'm assuming he's, I actually don't know what kind of background. I wouldn't be surprised if he's from like a secretly affluent background, but also wouldn't be surprised if he's like white trash. Don't care really. Hard to say. Yeah. Don't know.

I don't have the fact. Yeah. But, I mean, he's hot for sure, but, yeah, like, I wouldn't go. Good looking lad, sure. I wouldn't go out of my way to, like, win his, to charm him or win his favor myself. I don't, you know. But he is exactly the kind of guy that gay guys think is hot. Yes.

But because he is gay, right? Like, he is pretty gay. He's bi, gay, whatever. He's just a sexual opportunist. And all of these people are clearly using each other. And I was even thinking, like, maybe there's some 40 chess move between the girls to cross-promote. But that doesn't really add up because Lana has, like, billions of followers. And Ethel Cain has, like, four million.

And she's, you know, she's a pretty decently well-known indie artist. but she's like not nearly on the level. It seems, yeah. At first I was like, this is beneath Lana. She shouldn't even, but then I was like, she is petty. She's been petty. Yeah. And her music is like part of what makes her music so good is that she is willing to go very, very low brow.

Yes. That's what a little birdie told me. I have on good authority that she's petty and catty, but you don't really need to even. That's, yeah, you can just listen to her music. Okay, Del Rey was rumored to have dated Jack Donahue in 2022. Around that time, the rumored couple posted a since deleted photo of them posing together in front of Chicago's Cook County Jail, hence the Chicago pose. Kane later posted a photo to her own social media, similarly posing with Donahue. Ew.

Yeah, that's, they should have. Yeah, I was always, like, really, like, personally disgusted by. though that is very that is very that is very hs t s or whatever the op the not it's very non-agip what what to be to be sexually scheming bitch well to be like sexually competitive with biological females and to sort of gain a kind of like affirmation of one's femaleness from the same kinds of guys being attracted to you or whatever, or associated with you or whatever. Yeah.

That's like textbook, kind of like sinister tranny. Tries to like get your boyfriend to flirt with her. Yeah, but it is such a tranny move to like recreate a picture, a girl posted with the same guy. It's all very tranny coded, absolutely. And then you have to wonder why the guy was in on it and went through with it. I don't know. But to me, like Lana is so immensely talented that she doesn't.

There's really no need for her to soil her hands with all this, like, me, more fair bullshit because her art can simply stand on its own. But I guess it's like grist for the mill or whatever. Yeah, she draws, she's allowed to draw inspiration from, you know, big and small kind of. But I think, you know, she seems so happily married. Yeah, I don't know. And in that way, the ethelethyl distract is kind of like, why do you care, you know, why do you care? No, I know.

I'm halfway of the mind that that, that the marriage is also partly meme stunt. Like, I think it has, like, some authentic basis to it, right? Like, it has to, but. I mean, she's really out there on the damn bayou. Yeah, I know. But, like, marrying some, like, Louisiana Bayou, like, Gator Trapper is. A little too on the nose for me. She seems happy.

Yeah, yeah, sure. And we'll see. I don't know. I don't care. Yeah, I don't really care to like psychoanalyze Lana because I'm a fan of her work and I can enjoy it irrespective of the drama. Of course. But this all goes back because Ethel Cain has like a long history of skin

walking Lana? Is that correct? Lana has been a big influence on many women and homosexuals, undeniably. And so when this whatever disc track snippet dropped, there people started to kind of connect the dots of like Ethel Cain, you know, documenting being a Lana fan and then kind of like later in her career not wanting to be so compared. to Lana. Yeah.

But she should be so lucky. Yeah, wait, here's a quote. Ethel Kane has a long online history with Lana Del Rey. In apparent screenshots from her old deviant art account from the 2010s, Kane even credited Del Rey as one of her favorite artists. Circa, 2017,

Kane also uploaded a cover of Del Rey's Born to Die to the internet, which she later deleted, but fans have since re-uploaded. There are also social media videos of Kane singing parts of Del Rey's Mariners apartment complex. However, in recent years, Kane has distanced herself from the Del Rey Fandom online and seems reticent to admit any connection to the singer. What do you read? What article

is this? I think this is the Vogue, the Teen Vogue explainer. As I got older, especially with the social justice movement and the unraveling of the American dream, the unraveling of Hollywood, the unraveling of celebrity culture, it was kind of like it's all a sham, she said at the time. All that glamour and old opulence is built on the backs of hardworking people who will never get the recognition and it's just a facade that you see that you start to see through okay cool thanks for saying that yeah nobody asked for it's like it reminds you of when that one guy wrote that article about why he stopped listening to the podcast while walking his dog it's like you don't have to issue an official statement people fall like in and out of love with artists

the but how is the old glamour who whose backs is the old glamour like what are you talking about actually for real for real though for real like actually what do you mean by that what do you mean by the social justice movement what do you mean by the backs of people like huh she's doing that derine st felix thing where she's basically like tacitly accusing lana of um like white capitalism or whatever for exploiting the voices of the unheard, like marginalized voices. When she promotes a brand that glorifies like money and glamour and sexual violence and whatever. Which, by the way, she's way more authentic for doing. And she's just way more nuanced. It's like that's part of it is she's doing the like Marilyn Monroe,

like Betty Boop thing. But then she's also doing the white trash Americana thing. It's like it's, Lana's, like, so multifaceted in this way that Ethel clearly just is not. It's just making, like, spooky trans music, pop songs. Well, I think as, like, catty and petty as Lana can be interpersonally, I'm sure, her work comes from, like, divine inspiration. Like, I...

Which? And, like, artistic intuition. I think it's, like, probably most. mostly intuitive, and Ethel Cain seems like a person who's constantly, like, weighing her moves, which probably compromises her work. I don't know what her music sounds like, by the way. I had the idea of, like, listening to a song or two for research, but then I was like not. It's fine, it's fine.

It's just never, I don't know. Here's another quote. Here's the line between Lana and me. Lana is all facade. She is glamour. She has old Hollywood. She is the peak opulence of the American dream. And for me, I'm like, that's just not what America is to me.

I think America is the bottom line. It's the poor people, the people who have been the most affected by the government, by the system, people who are constantly spout on. Good luck making art out of that. Yeah, she's doing this like woke crap thing of pretending to care about Walmart Americans, which she clearly doesn't because she's just also skinwalking their identity for her brand. Their culture is not your costume. I mean, yeah, I don't know.

Ethel King's background. Let's see. Let me look it up. Yeah, look it up. She's like Buffalo Bill in the basement section. I would be willing to bet that she does have some kind of like church trauma they call. You know, she has, yeah, yeah, she's the eldest of four children in a Southern Baptist family. Her father was a deacon.

She was in the church choir. Then she began studying. She's from Tallahassee, Florida. she started studying piano at 8 with Christian music yeah okay so she left the church at 16 she was homeschooled so yeah she was from like a Floridian yeah she's like literally one of true detective cult people I mean it's probably much more banal than that it's probably just some normal us like Protestant American lower class or not or middle class i don't know uh but all of that church shit turned her into a gooner southern baptist very poor-coded for sure they're not you know she's not like episcopalian or something yeah she's not from one of the like more affluent denominations typically but it's also

who knows like this is all stuff she says yeah Um, homeschooled, I don't know. But again, when using her powerful male brain. Yes. To say that Lana looks like Peter Griffin. Uh-huh.

Which is just plain rude. But true, kind of true, at the peak of her, uh, fat era. But of course she's mad. Of course Lana's mad at it.

Yeah. I would be pissed off too. Yeah. I'd write the, I'd pen the disc shock. Yeah. Especially for someone, yeah, who is like so much less famous, but is doing a very similar quirked up kind of thing. There's videos on TikTok of like, you know, Lana did the early in her career.

She did like the photo shoot with the tattooed guy and then like Ethel did a similar, sorry. I don't know why I keep saying Ethel. I know. It's like. It's so. ESL of me. I know. It's like when I was calling Mickey, Madison, Mikey.

And I think you tried to, like, help me, but I like, it's okay. It's okay. It's not even her real name. Tranny's love having names like Sybil and Hestia. Like, it's always like some weird witchy thing. Sybil's on my short list for baby names, but it is. But maybe not anymore. No, not any.

maybe it's all it's too it's trans coded quirked up and trans yeah and then there's also this like subplot about who she had to recently apologize for like the unsavory unearthed posts that were originally

posted to subreddit dedicated to her screen grabs include her responses to questions on a Q&A platform called Curious Cat where she admitted to using the N-word and wrote build the wall there was also a screenshot of her wearing a shirt that read legalized incest along with posts mocking people who use they them pronouns making fat jokes and jokes about rape this makes her sound cool and funny well we're not mad at that yeah but she was also team ethel but no but she was yeah she made some like kind of pedophilic drawings yeah as well that like or she was just doing edge lord she was just like me for real she was doing edge lord she was doing edge lord she was just like me for real she was doing edge lord

shit on the internet, which I don't believe in getting mad at people about. Yes, that's humanizing. But now she's really, I mean, I guess she hasn't really done anything all. Lana just exposed, well, later in a comment, this is like, because there was the song. Uh-huh. And then in a comment on Instagram, Lana Del Rey said that she doesn't know Ethel, but that she made, you know, she compared her to cartoon characters and, like beastly animals and stuff

that she was like that she had on good authority that Ethel was being cruel about her and on her online so now that is what like people are that's where the beef really is but Ethel hasn't really done anything yeah Lana started this and only she could get away with it

because anybody else if they like began a smear campaign against another artist or a trans an artist of trans experience especially um just like on the basis of like private uh correspondences or posts or whatever uh would be like completely um called out but most people are obviously siding with i'm so brain dead right now my my brain elasticity is like no no it's okay no no no It's fine. It's hard to do remote. It really is. It's just not the same. No.

Sorry, folks. It's not going to be our best, but we're trying. But we love you so much that we're making it happen. We love our fans, don't we? Nick Fuentes does give me the courage to stand in contempt of our fans who are really our haters. I'm like, wait a minute. Why am I being nice and patient with these people? people, why do I respond to their DMs? I mean, at least we're not beholden to superchers. We don't have to do super chats.

That's true, yeah. We're not total whores. Well, there's always time. But who was it? I think it was Candice Owens. She, Riley was like randomly listening to her show. And she did some bit where she like read some fan mail about how brave she was. Like she was like, and here's a note from a listener who's thanking me for my bravery or something.

And I was like, that would be, me and Anna should get into that. Just start creating, pro being like, and here's the propaganda portion of the show where we'll read letters from the fans that are like, you both are so beautiful. Great episode once again. Yeah, it's like, actually there's a silent majority of people who think we're really beautiful and smart and brave for what we do. And they send us private messages all the time. explaining that the most vocal haters

are the 10% of those who are severely mentally ill. I like the sound of that, yeah. Actually, look at all of these people lining up to commend me for my service and podcasting. I think Richard Hananiah did that. He, like, manufactured some fake, like, chatchy PTS prompt about what a great guy he was. that's crazier than like clapping back at haters is like making up fans like even if you don't make it up and it's authentic you should like never publicize that and also like real talk like I get a few of those here and there but most of the fans like reaching out to me are basically like hey girl where'd you get that bag or like come to my restaurant and CDMX I'll make you a martini it's like that level which is nice and I appreciate it is sweet yeah it is sweet

it's better than like the the sick of fans and the haters um Trump and Putin had a summit oh yeah um well before we get to that I guess my question is like what is the ultimate effect

of this like stupid fake Lana beef Lana obviously comes out on top but will it really impact Ethel Kane's career No, probably not. It'll only help her, actually. It's just a pure oil diversion. Wake up, sheeple.

I don't think they're going to work it out on the remix, as people say. Yeah. But I could be wrong. I could be, you know, I'm just as stupid as everyone else and susceptible to marketing. Yeah. You know, I'm like, oh no. People don't think Lon is a genius the way they should. I'll lie awake at night thinking about that garbage.

Sure, why not? I don't, yeah, I mean, maybe it's all, we're all pawns in the grand scheme and they're going to have a track that, but I doubt it. I think Lana's just being, is genuinely upset and being a cancer. Yeah. Oh, is she a cancer? She's like Gemini Cusp. Oh, okay, so she's crazy.

Okay, so she's, um. So she's like. schizoid and moody. Damn. Yeah. But so talented. That's why she's so talented, yeah. An incredible star.

Yeah. To me, truly like Morrissey tier. Yeah, I agree. I think like Lana is our generation's Morrissey. I know that sounds like glib and fake and whatever, but I'm like a person who's historically, like, unexcitable and unenthused. Yeah, and she, like, of all the, like, pop starlets I can think of, she's, like, the only one who's struck a court with me.

Her and Nikki Minaj randomly. Who's a fan of the song, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because Nikki's also so, like, fierce and talented, and it's, like, hard for me to believe that like a woman like that that hip hop would have such a talented woman of my generation because it seems like everybody else kind of sucks now or like has like one song that's good and then can't sustain or I mean Rihanna's amazing but she just stopped making music completely

which respect to her but very cool but we've been waiting for a long time and she's like doing like an original song for the smurfs two movies she just get her back she doesn't give a fuck yeah yeah i wouldn't either i don't same like i said i find her you find her very relatable because she's your natal twin i find her relatable because she like had kids and got out the game like that gray matter is fried she doesn't feel like doing anything she doesn't eat you she made it out barbadoes yeah she's good um okay so the russia summit stuff um i have no idea Yeah, what's going on. Basically,

nothing. Putin and Trump met up. Putin admitted that the war wouldn't have started if Trump had won the last election. That's cool. Which is probably true. And like, I definitely emotionally felt that way when the war started. But it's just such a female.

It's so female and like, it's so pointless to say because he's not agreeing to a ceasefire. Or, well, I don't know, I'm trusting the plan. I think Trump is going to make a deal. I saw on CNN he was caught on a hot mic telling someone that Putin wants to make a deal with him. And they clearly like each other. He let Putin ride at the limousine. They were both like deferential in different ways.

Putin came to Alaska, which is obviously America, but also so, you know, they brought out the Orthodox. So, OG Russian territory. And like so close to Russia. It's like right there. So they brought out the fucking orthodox priests and the graves. And it's like always very like diplomatic. The diplomacy seemed good. Mm-hmm.

But then apparently today, Trump met with Zelensky and Zelensky's not being super cooperative, but they're still going to do a tri-lateral meeting. Yeah. Well, he can't be super cooperative because his livelihood, his ego, probably his life, depends on the forever war. Enough is enough. Enough is enough, no?

Like what happens if the war stops? What happens to Zelensky specifically? Like he flees to Israel or gets brutally murdered Gaddafi style? Well, part of the deal. Initially, Trump went in saying he wanted a ceasefire.

They met for two hours. Then they split up. Then Trump took no questions. And then he, revised and said there's no ceasefire there's going to be a peace agreement and he's going to broker it um but then in the meeting with selensky there was also like mccron and shit were there like euro people who they're negotiating like security because they can't just Russia doesn't want ukraine to join nato obviously but now there's this war and so they need

like security protections if they are going to withdraw troops that can protect ukraine even if they can see territories, which Zelensky doesn't seem to want to do. It's all, I just want, yeah, I think they've got to work it out. It's so long. It's been so long. How many more Ukrainians do we even have? I mean, yes. We have so many have died.

Enough is enough. Like, at a certain point, Zelensky is going to do the math, like, of he's not going to win. Well, yeah. And, like, how much death is he going to be responsible for? Well, that's why it's in his interest to, um, prolong this war. much like Netanyahu because that's the only way that he stays like in the good graces

of NYT Lib Tards. But at a certain point don't you care about your legacy like broadly? Like how much blood are you going to get soaked in before? No, I know, but I suspect that like his legacy is secondary to his life.

Like he wants to save his life. He's so fucked if the war ends. They're not going to kill him. I wouldn't be surprised. He's like completely useless otherwise. He'll go live in, fucking Estonia or some shit. He can go. I mean, Putin also said at the summit that he has no intention of attacking any European or Eastern European countries.

So there's no interest for him to do that, that he is a rational actor. Yeah. Like, I feel like Trump's making inroads. It's just the deal. Sometimes the deal takes a little longer. It's in our. You know, it takes as long as it takes. It's just nice to know that even world leaders are, like, susceptible to the same

psychological impulses that we're all, like, under the influence of. And, like, Putin and Trump just want to be, like, seen and understood by some other guy. Yeah. And they've, like, achieved that together. They have a nice friendship. Yeah, they have a good. Yeah. Because I think Putin probably feels also historic.

He's like, he's like Fuentes entering the back door of Sovereign House or whatever. Like he feels like historically like shut out. Exactly. And maligned by the quote international community. And he's got the upper hand because the decadent West is so bad. I mean morally, not like strategically. Like, you know, he is maligned. But then Russia does have its like the sanctity kind of of its like, you know,

Eastern thing that they have going on over there, even though they're totally corrupt. They're so bad. Russian people are so bad. And it's like, and you do just have to, like, there is, you have to just, you have to make a deal because otherwise they'll keep killing you. Yeah. Like, Russia doesn't, there's way more people in Russia than Ukraine. And they've got, they will, they will, are, this is not a winnable war. Well, it is as long as, like, Western and global interests are, like, as long as it remains, like, a proxy war, then it's pretty stable. It's, like, sustainable river. But Trump wants, Trump wants the deal. Yeah. We're not going to give them those Biden bucks anymore. And they can get some EU troops, but, like, good fucking luck. Yeah, I guess my big question is whether it's even possible to put an end to any war in this day and age. It seems that they all just become forever wars.

like or like some kind of indefinite period of like occupation or something yeah yeah I mean we didn't we're not in war with Iran that's true and that was you know Trump kept us out yeah did you see I was mostly

scandalized by um Slensky's fit because he finally got out of the khaki drab he switched on a suit he went to APC yeah no yeah he went to the APC surplus store and got a fucking suit and was like smiling instead of being a sour-puss.

Yeah, like a medium black suit that looks like he bought it on yukes. Mm-hmm. Men of the world, like, please take my advice. Like, when in doubt, size up. Men don't understand this. They have the opposite of body dysmorphia where they think they're somehow smaller than they are. Yeah, or they think that, like, women want to see, like,

the curve of their thigh and their dick outline, and they absolutely don't. Like, women want to see you looking, relaxed and confident baggy baggy yeah yeah almost yeah basically baggy yeah suit supply it wasn't even suit supply it was like clown he's such a clown like literally professionally and in his affect like it was such a like clownish suit to wear yeah but it was nice he made the effort

see everyone's playing ball with yes but he looks like a little boy going to a wedding yeah he looks like letty and wedding wedding and cutting pictures. True. I was really miffed because I got Lenny, like the preppy J.Crew fit. It's like a blue blazer, white Oxford shirt, blue chinos, and Ivy. Soft moccasin loafer.

And like he couldn't keep it on and wriggled out of it. And it was like all soiled and stained. I literally had to throw all of it out because it was like undry cleanable. But he had a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, my wedding dress is, like, fostered. Yeah, and I'm like, what am I going to do? Who cares?

Yeah. I'll just, like, hold on to it as is. Yeah, and, like, try to fit into it when you're, like, 70 or 80. I'm sure I'll even be backing it on me, because my bones will be all frail and broken. After my second Hib hospitalization, once my immunization wears off. the girl's getting osteoporosis from a lifelong low-grade eating disorder it's in the cards but it's not the worst thing to have just be really careful I'm already so clumsy I'm going to be

so careful when I'm old well the benefit of a white cotton dress is that you can just bleach it right I mean not that this is like a seal Chapman dress from the 40s I'd have to get it like dry cleaned yeah and like repair it's like torn and stuff too yeah I see because I was going hard. But I don't care. I don't need it to be. I'm never going to wear it again. Like, why would I wear my wedding dress again? Unless I was having a psychotic break. Like, hopefully I don't want to put that on again. It's okay. It can be the dress I wore on a momentous day and not, like, both in good condition, whatever. Let me see what else I have about. Oh, no, I was just thinking about how Zelensky is a lot like Momdani and that he's a litmus test.

I'm so jealous that you can smoke because I'm sitting in Pepe's gallery office and I clearly can't do that. There's like some Mexican dude up on the roof. They're all Mexican in Mexico. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. But I mean like Mexican, Mexican, not white Mexican, not of Iberian derivation or whatever. Anna's in Mexico. I'm in Mexico, yeah.

Everyone's Mexican. True. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Zelensky is just like, I don't know how anybody can look at that guy and be like, oh, he's a brave and inspiring. He's an appealing or attractive person. He has a winning personality. Like, how do you, like, like, it seriously calls your question and your judge or your character and your judgment into question. If you look at a guy like Zelensky and your first thought is like, what a.

What a great guy. Well, Zelensky is a big star in Ukraine. He's literally comedic actor. Yes. So for us, yeah, we see this like phony fucking guy who's literally an actor. But it'd be like when people were talking about how George Clooney running for president or something like that where it's like people in Ukraine associate him with like levity and, you know, I mean, not anymore. No, but I'm not even talking about Ukrainian. Oh, yeah, he was like, he was like on like, I mean like Westerners, Americans specifically.

Well, they're just, you know, I don't know, deranged. I mean, yeah, it's like I told you the story of like when I was in SF and I made the pilgrimage to one of these like trendy fashionable bakeries that's highly recommended. Unfortunately, Lib Tards do certain things well and that includes like their food and service culture. It's very nice and classy. Resurcly is lovely, yeah. It is, yeah. And you have, like, the Jurassic Park landscapes and the beautiful architecture. It's a really, like, magical place.

I feel like El Ron Hubbard on China. Mm-hmm. Like, beautiful place if it weren't for the Chinese or whatever. And, like, it was standing in, like, a line, which I hate to do because it's shameful and undignified. and there is like this old boomer couple behind me. The thing with with like Pacific Northwest boomers is that they look really good. Berkeley's not the Pacific Northwest. Oh, it isn't.

Shit. I thought anything like SF and above was Pacific Northwest. But same difference. I would have similar to like Portland. Yeah, yeah. Like crunchy like Subaru. I'd say even more. Even more so.

In the Pacific Northwest, it's, yeah, it's real. but, like, SF is, like, the ideal almost. Yeah. Or the Bay. The botanic ideal, yeah. Of, lip tardation. Of, like, crunchy, yeah. Yeah, they're, like, fit, attractive.

They look good for their age. The women are all very, like, handsome and stately. They look good without makeup. They're not, like, bim bimified. They seem, like, intelligent and independent. And the level of discourse is just so, like, mind-numbing. It's, like, honey, uh, studies show that. New research reveals that people gain weight from eating processed foods, even those considered

healthy. Like, this was literally what these people were saying in the bakery line. And I was looking at them, like, oh, they must have, like, 20, 30 years of marriage on their heads. And, like, that's, they've spent their entire lives interacting, like, interfacing like that. Like NPR. Yeah. Which, again, is why I love the term false conscience. because it was obviously invented by Marxists to malign and insult their enemies,

but it actually absolutely applies to progressives more than anyone. Like, they just truly, like, live in a bubble. I mean, definitely, especially over theirs, but California, just in general. Like, as lovely as L.A. as you do, to me, I'm like, it's, I can't live in this way that's just like the level of detachment in California broadly, but especially the Bay Area because they're extra hypocritical, at least in L.A., they're like, vapid. But everyone is just like checked out.

Yeah. And like vaguely liberal because they want to be good and they don't really know what's going on. Like that's just what happens. Well, yeah. This woman also did say to her husband that she was sort of kind of bemoaning the fact that some store and birth, was closing due to Trump because it was entirely run by illegals undocumented immigrants or whatever and it just like well just like take that statement apart and analyze it you dumb bitch like what are you talking about and also you don't even care that's the thing well

they're really like uber menshean actually in the grand scheme because they live like that they're fabulously rich they don't actually care they get you to pretend that they do and they get to feel like they have a moral high ground. Yes. And like they're extremely selfish people. And I don't mean that in a negative way. I think, you know, to some extent, it's good to be selfish. But these are people who are basically motivated by staying rich and fit. They care about their money and they care about their bodies. Yeah, yeah. They're godless. They don't really believe in anything.

Yeah, they're like donating their inheritance to charity and like writing their children out of the will. Though actually I think that's probably an overblown meme comes up in a lot of, yeah. I mean, when I lived, I lived in Berkeley, I worked for a woman who, and this was like 2012, 2011, so a while ago. But she, I won't docks her, but she had twins at the age of 50 via IVF. yeah that's hence the twins you know but was just so like scatterbrained and like an academic and just like selfish and then like forgot to have kids and then had these kids really late super duper late in her life which regard like we don't have to talk about IVF or whatever but like it's just so selfish to have a kid that old and you can't the chasm between them

They, like, could barely understand each other. It was like, you know, you're like, you're fucked, lady. Yeah. And she, like, doesn't really want to take care of them. It's probably outsourcing their care. I mean, at this point, they were, like, teens, and she was in her 70s and, like, a, like, you know, struggling and had, like, teenage kids. Yeah.

And that was, yeah, that's very Berkeleyan. Yes, yeah. Is this kind of, like, boomer. And that's because they came out of the like the quintessentially boomer 1960s, a hippie. It's, if Didion was alive today. No, I'm sure she's seen it. But like it's a, it's the slouching towards Bethlehem. Right.

Like take into its logical conclusion after it gets like commodified and processed. And then becomes this other like twisted evil thing. Yeah. It's like that mixed with like a mow-mowing and the flack catcher. or whatever. It's like literally Didian meets Wolf. And they want to feel countercultural because they have all this nostalgia

for their youth. But they were delusional then and they're delusional now. Yeah. And they don't know it. And so like my attitude toward them is like I can't help but feel some level of like pity. Sure.

And compassion, even though they would have no such pity or compassion for me. well I think as individual like most you know people are well-meaning yes of course it's like there's you know they're doing their best yeah I'm sure like our when our generation is old people will be mad at us for like selling everyone out onto the algorithm or whatever yeah the AI is like destroying everyone's life people were gonna make it was those millennials who didn't like understand that the internet was a bad deal it was those red scare girls who said

cheat on him get an abortion live your best life you go girl um should we talk about Doreen st felix yes I really like when um people from like my past lives come up again in a new context yeah where to remind me because she's one of those there's like a kind of maybe a half a dozen women, bi-pac women who have kind of quirky names who don't like you or me or like have emerged into my, to me at some point. And she's one of them, but I don't remember. I don't know if she was an active red scare hater. I don't recall having any run-ins with her, but I do vaguely remember her from back in

the day as part of that, like, New York literary scene that included like Gia Tolentino and Sarah Nicole Prickett and a bunch of other bitches that like randomly hate us and what's the redhead one who always has her tities out yeah that one and like all these people

are obviously like what you call like limousine liberals or like champagne socialists and that they're like super progressive I was actually no it doesn't sound like such a woke toddler thing but I was dead as talking to a guy from the Bronx

who happened to come to my church on Sunday who was a correctional officer and he kept saying he kept talking about how Mom Donnie's a caviar communist he said you know what that is I sure do sir I said I know he was like I talked to this guy for a good 30 minutes of us

just like agreeing with each like everything he said I was like I agree yep and then I'd say something he'd say absolutely We were just going exactly. You know that Leon Trotsky apparently briefly lived in the Bronx? Hmm. Interesting. It's so funny because, like, if that guy was alive today, he'd be, like, on Twitter.

I know. Being an annoying Jew. Being a cat. Being such an annoying Jew. Oh, my God. Oh, Frida Kahlo, posting her tits and stuff. Yeah. It'd be a nightmare.

Yeah. They're so lucky they got. to, like, you know, Frieda Kala would be so, I mean, she already already thinks she's pretty annoying. But, like, if she was around today. Yeah, she would be insufferable. She'd be showing whole and being the worst. She'd be like a woke feminist artist who took, like, nude photos of herself to, like,

seize the means of production and represent marginalized communities in spite of being totally Jewish, which few know. but she and Clarice Luspector are not Latina's at all. They're just Ashkenazis. And I am going to... Preach so name them. Mm-hmm. But I'm going to do the good little tourist thing and, like, go to the Trotsky and Kalo houses tomorrow and check them out.

It's by that really nice restaurant we went to the last time. Which one? The place we went. Oh, San Anhill Inn? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like in that neighborhood. Yeah, word.

So it definitely worth seeing, sure, whatever. It's like, it's transcend, you know. Frida Kolo is like Marilyn Monroe where it's like she's transcended into this other category. Yes, yeah. She's Tweety Bird. She's Betty Boop. It's like it's on. You go to a Mexican restaurant.

There's like a weird fake painting of her drinking a latte. Yeah. Like, great. Yeah. I love Frida Kalo. Playing on her phone, yeah. Anyway, Doreen St. Felix is a writer for The New Yorker? Yeah, here, I'll pull it up.

She's, um, she has been a staff writer at the New Yorker since 2017 and is a regular contributor to the weekly column Critics Notebook. According to her New Yorker profile, she was previously an editor at large at Lenny letter and newsletter by actress Lena Dunham and was a cultural writer at MTV News. All humans are not the reason. The earth is in peril, she wrote. White capitalism is. Despite her disdain for capitalism,

St. Felix appears to benefit from its fruits. Her address is listed as a 1.3 million home in a gated Brooklyn community, which faces a pretty marina. Anyway, she's currently under fire because people are digging up her old anti-white Twitter post. Yeah, of course. Did Chris Rufo?

Yeah, he got the memo, yeah. Where she's saying things like whiteness must be abolished. whiteness fills me with a lot of hate. I would be heartbroken if I had kids with a white man. Yeah, that's not true. You know she would get the, like, jump at the chance to get knocked up by a white guy. What do you mean heartbroken? Yeah.

And when she finally does get married and have kids, it will be with a white man. I'm willing to place money on that. You heard her. She's willing to put money on it, folks. She's not marrying a black guy. No way now. And if she does marry that guy, it's going to be some like Adam Surwar-ass mulatto dudes. Well, that's what I'm saying.

There are, they are, there are some maybe like a Nigerian guy from like a rich family or something. I could see it for her. Well, and all of this came to light because she like penned some essay about the Sydney-Sweeney American Eagle campaign where she refers to her as an Aryan. Princess, which obviously drew the ire of like Chris Rufo, another right-wing activists. But that's exactly what American Eagle is doing. We just, we've, we've, Red Scare talks about this. Yes.

Yeah. And they're not, they're obviously not doing it in an ideologically invested way. They're doing it in economically opportunistic way. Yeah. Sure. Blah, blah, blah. And then she's since deleted her socials. I hate white men.

You are all the worst. Go nurse your fucking edible complexes and leave the earth to the brain. to the browns and the women. Come on. How's that going for you? No way. But yeah. Browns and women?

What are you talking about? You want all the white men gone? You don't want browns and women, only brown men and women? Who's going to fix your computer so you can pen your essays, bitch? Well, the Indian guys. Yeah, true. BiPoc. Yeah.

Maybe we don't need the white men. We'll get the Indian guys through the time. tech support, the black guys to play basketball, the Mexican guys to do the daily ring, what other, oh yeah, Arab guys, I don't really want them on the scene. We'll get them to do the raping. They're all doing the raping. They're all doing the raping. Everybody but white men is doing the raping.

But online conservatives obviously get super fired up over this sort of thing because it reveals the underlying hypocrisy of the anti-racist movement, which claims to want, like, equity and empathy and justice for all, but is really like, in practice just means racism for everyone's for people, yeah, who don't exist, they don't have a culture, but yet they should be punished for all of their historic crimes against everybody else, such as like introducing them to electricity and education, good table manners, so on and so forth. And obviously, they're pissed off because, like, you know, like, white culture and white people are under threat of being replaced, blah, blah, blah.

I mean, colonial, okay, I'm willing to conceive that colonialism was, like, a violent process. Yes. But just at what point, the notion of, like, some kind of reversal or, like, reparations that were owed became common, like, that was just something people started to say. Like, I didn't feel like didn't used to be the case. Like, you could talk about the violence of colonialism without this kind of, like, guilty, like, like, karmic debt atmosphere that emerged after, like, social media, probably. I mean, I'm sure they were, like, stirring. Because, like, realistically, people be doing colonial studies, but they were just, they were pretty benign.

I don't know. I think that they were probably, um, pretty hateful and insidious, but just the, the, the, um, means and, like, like methods of transition were much slower because this is a pre-internet era. But certainly all the stuff that Rufo talks about in his book, like with... Right. His whole thing is it's all downstream from academia, right, right, right. Like, I'm not entirely convinced by his thesis, but it's not entirely wrong either. And like, I can...

I can obviously sympathize with the outrage of people like him and his followers, and I think they have a point and so on and so. forth, but I feel like it also bears repeating how mindless and reflexive all of this stuff is in like elite, lived hard circles, because these people are just saying what's expected of them. And the only reason it looks so bad now is because what was fashionable a few years ago is out of fashion now. Exactly. Like, she's not actually being, like, if these were contemporary posts, they would be anti-social

and like, you know, everyone would plainly see kind of, but at the time, within the context of whatever feed, she was existing in at that point, everyone was saying stuff like that. I feel like everyone was constantly, like, you know, she was, she basically did nothing wrong. Remember there was like, I mean, I'm actually like not disproving my point here, but, you know, I don't remember how long ago this was, but five, ten years ago, that guy George Sigrello Maher, Meyer, who was like a, you know, a white academic, had that viral, heavily contested tweet that was like, all I want for Christmas is white genocide. And he was obviously joking, ha-ha, t-he, but not.

And then, like, secondly, every single one of their, like, protestations is, like, contains a secret wish. It's like Handmaid's Tale shit. Right. If I had a baby, like, why even say that? Why even say that? Why are you in your, that's what you're thinking about that? You think about how sad he would be if you had a white.

That sounds like if I had kids with a white man, I would drive us all into a lake. Just the thought process. What are you talking about? The thought process of even like pondering a hypothetical in which you have children with a white man and then having and then do it. Which means you've pondered it. Which means you are pondering it and then like quickly kind of like creating psychological scaffolding about how that's something you don't want when you are. fantasize it's like it's Freud one oh one like you're fantasizing about something yeah and then are convincing yourself that you hate it and because you hate you can't take responsibility for

your own desires i've been saying this for years people so true and and and the whole system incentivizes you to not do so and yeah what this really comes down to of course is that these people enjoy and benefit from the patronage and largesse of having a predominantly white audience in a primarily white cultural paradigm and in fact could not exist without it and they know it too and i think that they probably experienced quite a bit of shame over this reality though they kind of willfully confuse the nature of it like you wouldn't be amiss in attributing their like political and ideological attacks to like personal and professional jealousy like she just sounds like envious uh but like you know it's like what we were talking

about on like the tanahisi coats episode um it's not purely jealousy of white people as like online conservatives would like to think it's also the shame of uh like being not black enough. That's what really sticks in their crop. Right. Like because like, you know, more people who have a more authentic black American experience like might have hostility towards whites and a lot of them do in some form. But it's not like something they're like actively seething over.

Yeah, because they outlive in their lives. going to cookouts shooting sideways whatever but yeah it's yeah the big issue is not that they're not white enough it's that they're not black enough this goes for like Nicole Hannah josey Coates Jamal Bowie like virtually any black writer pundit on like the NYT circuit they know deep down inside that they're not accepted by their own kind because they're not poor enough they're not hard enough they're too educated they're nerds yeah that Yeah, black nerds. They're like not quick on the uptake.

They're not quick with the clapbacks. Not street smart. Yeah. And also like in addition, because they all, they know that black people, like normal black people don't really care about like going to museums or reading confessional prose, no matter like how many sneakerhead exhibitions you put on at the Brooklyn Museum. like so that fills them with a lot of confusion and shame and of course like they all make like racial identity and racial dynamics their core brand because they know that they can't do without it they can't stand on their own there was just a period of time where that sort of thing was like of course you had to take the leverage you had and that was major for for them

for black for black nerds yeah but you would you know bi-pac when bi-pac black indigenous person of color where they had to come up with a separate category because POC was applying to too many like Asians and Arabs yeah they were like trying to get in on the on the race hustle so then they said no bi-pac it's black people and indigenous people only yeah yeah I mean this phenomenon isn't exclusive to like, um, educated elite blacks. It's, it's also like educated elite, Asians, Muslims, you name it. Like anyone who's not a white person basically and has to do like the racial grift. But like they know, like they know deep down inside that they're mediocre diversity hires. Sure. Could not exist or stand on their own. If not for this moment,

it's like very obvious. And it must, you know, I have a lot of sympathy for them to, because it must fill their hearts with, like, dread and painting. Yeah, I mean, my most charitable read on, like, seeing all those tweets in aggregate is, like, she probably had a bad experience with, like, a white guy and was, like, drunk. Yeah. And I've certainly gone online and said whatever, you know. Sometimes you're just saying whatever. I'm not, yeah.

Personally, I can't be one to get, like, too worked up about people's tweets because I've, like, been under the influence and like said stuff online enough times or just been you know under the influence of like hormones or whatever yeah I'm not that's what I'm saying I'm not as incensed at Doreen St. Felix's tweets as like Chris Rufo is because I sort of get it and she's also suffering from false consciousness and has to make this about white people oppressing black people when there's clearly some underlying, again, like personal or professional jealousy that's motivating these outbursts, or she's just trying to, like, fit in with her cohort.

Yeah, it's everyone's like at any, you know, you're, they're of the time. They're of an era when it was like, okay, you know, everyone kind of was saying stuff like that. Yeah, and I mean, I still do. It's just like now since like cancel culture or whatever has become an all-purpose phenomenon and it's not just leftists doing the canceling anymore, people are just more openly up in arms about it. Right.

And you're no longer a protected class if you like spew anti-white hatred or whatever. What's Rufo's end game? He's just drawing attention to. he's waging his culture war. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. Because with his, the stuff, the stuff with the school districts that made sense that he wanted to, like, reform, he wanted educational reform. Yeah.

Like, what does he want to reform? The New Yorker? Like, the New Yorker is going to be full of whatever. Like, that's just what it is. Yeah. I don't want, like, a base New Yorker. Yes, totally. Yeah.

Let them, I let them, lives do their thing. They're good. They're pretty good at it. Lighthearted New Yorker that you can read as a parody. Exactly. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't really know what he's on about these days. I think, yeah, like this stuff has to, like, yeah, he was his most effective when he was getting. He has a new book coming out, I guess.

Oh, I see. That makes sense, right? Yeah. Word. Mm-hmm. So he's like a lawn. and Ethel. He's manufacturing.

Like I'm fighting with hood rats on Twitter. Just kidding. Green St. Felix is not a hood rat, which she's really upset about. She wishes she was. I'm trying to pull up her Holocaust tweet, but my service is bad. What was her Holocaust tweet? Oh, she's Haitian American. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. But born in Canarsie. Yeah, she's. She went to Brown. good for her you know if I could do it all again I'd go to an Ivy League

That's her main defining feature It's not that she's black It's that she went to Brown Mm-hmm Truly That's what pisses people off I could have gone to Brown Yeah

I could have gone to Brown True Yeah No I could I mean I didn't No I'm sure you could If I uh yeah I had a different order of operations

Whatever it doesn't matter I'm so happy would to have my I still I know I still sound dumb but I feel like when we did our last pot I was still kind of like adult from the hospital and then like a couple days after that like I actually felt like my cognitive function return and I'm so grateful for it like it rocks just be able to think, you know, and defend yourself and stuff. It's nice. That's how I feel like a drink for one day. I know. Like, ooh, I have so much clarity. I'm so lucid. My brain is firing on all cylinders. And then I'm like, I feel so good I could just

have a drink. Google the Holocaust tweet because I don't have service and I'm kind of, I'm thinking that I should maybe jump on one of these weird Mexican Wi-Fi's, but I don't really want my identity is stolen right now. The Holocaust. She says, whiteness fills me with a lot of hate and that the Holocaust is the worst thing to happen to black people. I don't really understand what that means. Oh, because of Israel?

Oh, here. Here it is. I think she's referring to this. She described what she called, okay, the Holocaust gesture writing that quote, it's trichnological when white people invoke the Holocaust, because it allows them to step out of their whiteness and slip on fake oppression. Mm-hmm. I love how you scratch a black person and find an anti-Semite every single time.

It's so great. She also wrote that the Holocaust birth trauma studies and claimed it, quote, explains a lot about why we get so many things wrong about how trauma comes. Well, also the funny thing about black anti-Semitism is that black people hate the Jews, not because they're Jewish. They hate them because they're white. Mm-hmm. And, like, extra smart. Yeah.

Even amongst the whites. I had to, okay, here, I was asking because I just learned what tricknology is. Do you know what technology? No, no, no, what's tricknology? It's a term particularly used within the nation of Islam to describe the perceived manipulative tactics and deceptive strategies employed by white people to maintain power and oppress others, especially black people. It's associated with the idea that white people use trickery and a lack of empathy to usurp power and control.

This concept is rooted in the nation of Islam's teachings about the origins of white people, specifically the story of Yakub. In this narrative, Jakub, a scientist created a grafted or devil race through selective breeding, which is characterized by trickery and a propensity for deception. This tricknology is then used to dominate and exploit others. I'm sitting my white ass down and listening because this sounds a lot like, yeah. Well, it sounds a lot like the tactics and strategies that, like, woke tards used to deceive and manipulate people. But it's, like, mad, funny that all of these, like, black theorists and thinkers perceive, like, just being, like, a standard deviation more intelligent as using trickery and deception to get ahead. They think it's, like, some kind of Jewish devil magic and not the fact that you're, like, literally just smarter and about. a better systems thinker and can iterate

through the steps of a process and can see how certain actions have consequences. We'll see what the Holocaust, what the Holocaust is Anna is a money-making machine that uses Trichnology to print money for Jewish people. So true, Dasha. The money-making machine run on trick-nology.

did you wait do you watch the club of eric adams i know it was kind of longish no no no no no it was a little long for what it was but it was because he was someone asked him about how mom donnie wants to decriminalize sex work or whatever and eric adams is like what he said no one should be on the on the body selling on the street selling they body i just don't believe in that and then he goes i'm a christian i'm a i'm a i'm a god-fearing man and he says i don't know where in his Quran, it says that that's okay. I also love when black people are Islamophobic. That's cool, too.

Like, I love when Azalea Banks does it. She got an award for it. Yeah, but I know, I know. She's one of the best to ever do it, turns out. Ben Shapiro read her tweets on a little teleprompter. So true. I mean, Eric Adams, it's like funny and good, but it's like kind of low-hanging fruit.

I mean, he got his ass. Because the thing is the thing where people get wrong with the Mamdani criticism, we've talked about this, is like acting like he's an Islamic fundamentalist. Yes. When he's something far worse. Yeah. He's like a soulless guy that stands for nothing. And he's not even a Muslim at all.

He's like of the same ilk as Zelensky or Trudeau or any of these. like theater kid politicians yeah that I love I love when like um like you kill two birds with one stone and own the left voids but also the conservatards because Eric Adams is also like the brilliance of that statement is that it does highlight the fact that Mamdani wears Islam like a skin suit he's like a Muslim to Muslim transsexual exactly like literally just like wears his he's not Muslim yeah it's ridiculous

yeah and they want to like conservatards want to portray him as some sort of like religious extremists who's like hell bent on implementing sharia and waging jihad that'd be better he's a communist he doesn't believe in God

he doesn't think there's an Allah up there he doesn't hold himself to any accountable he doesn't have any a standard by which he measures himself or like establishes a moral value in the world at all. Yeah.

But whatever. And he's only doing it to appeal to like the affluent white liberals who like make up. Of course. That's why he's criminalizing sex work. That's why he's like, yeah, whatever. We can wrap it up. We've done an hour and a half. I think, you know, it might be unlistenable.

Yep. Sharia law, but make it gay and retarded. Actually, it's already probably Call it communism. Make it even more gay and retarded. Make it more like communism. Yeah. I'm trying to think, like, would I take Sharia over communism?

I don't know. That's a hard question. Do they do female genital mutilation under Shariah? I don't think so. I think that's a regional thing, but it could be mistaken. Because that seems like the worst thing like happened to you as a woman. Mm-hmm. And I didn't even know.

I looked this up recently. I didn't even know. Because I thought it all was just like the clitoridectomy or whatever. I was like, oh, they just cut your clit off surely. But in some places, they like fully remove your labia menorah and then sew your pussy into like a little tiny hole. Yeah. Like why the fuck? Why would they do that?

Like that's horrible. That's actually horrible. Women definitely don't need to be subjected to anything like that as much as I. I'm not a fan of them, I think. That's just awful. I'll go on the record. You know how circumcised men feel. I thought it was something like that.

I thought it was so, you know. Yeah, they like, yeah, they just like shave the clit off. No, it's like the whole. But no, like full Sharia, like, I already can't drive a car. I already don't like leaving a house without a male chaperone. Yeah. So Shariah is already basically preferable to me. True, yeah.

Versus communism, which, but I could make communism work for me. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, they're like practicing like a weird, archaic form of transgender surgery, nullification surgery. They're actually much, they have much more in common than we'd like to. It's terrible. Yeah.

The female genital mutilation, Anna. Someone should do something. I think people are trying. trying to, like eye on her, see. It's like a UN day. They have all, like, UN resolutions about it, but then. Yeah. Yeah, we can wrap about it. I mean, if you're from a place that practices female genital relationship, you definitely shouldn't be coming to America. Yeah, I mean, unless you're a, I guess, I mean, unless you're a woman who needs to escape the female genital relationship, but that doesn't seem like, yeah, that's the emphasis.

Because it's already so bad if that's happening. How could you escape? You're so disempowered. You can't even start a podcast. No. You can't make it out at all. Probably don't even teach you how to read and stuff. Oh.

No, you're like arranged married to some 79-year-old man who's also your cousin. Yeah. They both would suck. Fully automated luxury or whatever. Yeah. Well, because you know it's not going to be. that but we've lived through it ancestrally so I feel like we would fare okay we've already got the poverty mindset so this is a pointless question I'm retarded uh sharia leads to communism

and communism leads to sharia yeah there we go yeah that okay well I hope this works yeah I do too if it doesn't whatever. If it doesn't, and it's just you talking, just publish it anyway. No, it won't be. I think it's going to be fine. Yeah. All right. See you in hell. See you and help. Thank you.