Red Scare - Fake and Gaetz

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

The ladies discuss Trump's cabinet picks and roast the latest lifestyle journalism from New York Times and New York Mag.

We're back. We're back. That's it. What's up, Anna? Nothing. Yeah. My week of rest and relaxation. Totally. Not going too well. Yeah.

Yeah. You've been burning the candle in both holes. Yeah. I feel, you know, my short-term memory loss is really kicking in. I know. Do you ever have that thing where you're like in your bedroom and you think of something that you have to do and you go to the kitchen or the living room to do it and then you're like standing in this other room and you don't remember why

you're there. You've been like abducted by aliens. Well, I was actually diagnosed with inattentive ADHD that I take medication to treat. So I'm trying to beat this thing, but that's one of the symptoms, yeah, is being scattered. What's the medication? Adderall. Oh, okay.

I was like, oh, but aren't you already on Adderall? They gave you a new Adderall? I haven't had an Adderall prescription for a while since COVID. How's that helping with your short-term memory loss? I'm more productive, but then I kind of play the online chess compulsively, which isn't great, but if I can keep that at bay.

Mm hmm. Yeah, then it's okay. I'm gonna beat this. Maybe I'll get an adderall. I'm even more annoying and retarded. Oh my god. That's that would be interesting. Honestly, gives you a ton of energy and suppresses your appetite. Cool. Sounds amazing. Sign me up. I've never consistently taken Adderall. I took it once in my life in like 2018, I wanna say, when I wrote that one essay about how art will not save us. You could write another essay.

I could write another essay. I was thinking about that because I was talking to you earlier about the Dean Kissick Harper's cover story that we will not be talking about today. Stay tuned. For reasons that will be revealed. He's not coming on the pause. A secret third thing.

Yeah, but I was thinking like, wow, art criticism is back, baby. Make art criticism great again, because it was so good. It was like a very Wolfian piece. It reminded me of that Janet Malcolm essay on the Ingrid Sissi takeover of Art Forum, where she's writing about all these kind of

stately and respectable personalities orbiting the magazine at the time. And she just like takes them all down in one full swoop because there's a scene where there's like a buffet and all these people are like rushing over and stuffing their plates. It's very that. Sorry, I don't know where I was going with this. It's a great, everyone should read it.

It's a very good diagnostic. Yeah, and this is no disrespect to Dean's writing, but he didn't really even have to do anything but describe the current state of the art world in a very neutral and straight-faced way and you were just like laughing Yeah, it wasn't snarky But it was very point yeah like poignant yeah But every single person like mentioned in that piece basically sounds like that Maori woman. Yeah, Maori. Maori. It's for us, Maori. My bad. Whatever, bitch. Hated that. Couldn't even watch it with sound on for three seconds. I know.

Yeah, there was a video of a Maori politician in New Zealand's parliament or whatever they have, like ripping up some bill and doing their like, Hawkeye war dance. Hawkeye too. Which I hate to see. Yeah, I know. Well, Libs love to do this thing where they like- Provoke you. Which I hate to see. Yeah I know. Well, Libs love to do this thing where they like, um, yeah, they like showcase some savages

and then when they flip around and act as you would expect, everybody has to like bite their tongue and not be disgusted and horrified. I mean, people might remember I spent some time in New Zealand working and was very, the Maori influence there is major. Yeah. It's like, I was like, wow, this is like gay race communism. They're like really actually doing it in like a totally authoritarian like crazy way.

Yeah. Yeah, you were sending me like photos of their like frescoes and sculptures and they all look like late term abortions. So scary. It's like, so it was, yeah, and it was recently after I was chrismated into the Byzantine Catholic faith.

So I was just on a very different wavelength and I got off the plane and was like, oh, they're like pagan here. And yeah, they like that year they like had decided to give to make like a Maori holiday, like a national holiday. But it's because they were, I realized because it was they were colonized super late. So they haven't had that much time developing,

that they developed rapidly, but then they became woke. And so now the Maori just have this tons of political power. And the bill that she was ripping up was like, I guess it was like crypto anti-Mauri because it gave everybody the same rights. It was like an equality bill. It's so funny and ironic to see like Woketards ripping up equality bills. Cause isn't that what we were fighting for all along? I mean, they're, yeah. I mean, they're beyond like woke in New Zealand.

It really was so, I mean, I was only in Wellington. Yeah. To be fair. I mean, this brings me back to like a question that Dean asks in his essay where he's like, well, when an incredibly influential and well-funded industry only foregrounds the voices of marginalized people, are they still marginalized? Like, how does that work? Totally.

We need some Maori representation in the United States. They have like face tattoos. Yeah. You know, they have like the Mike Tyson face tattoo. They're a little tribal. I mean, they're yeah. Did you watch the fight? I did not. I watched.

I tried. But then they had all these fights before. Yeah. And those were kind of boring. And then I zoned out and stopped paying attention. But I heard Tyson lost. Yeah, which was expected. I wasn't expecting it. But he took it like a champ. I mean, he's 58 years old. It's crazy. But he didn't get knocked out. I don't even you know I guess it's like who punches who the most.

Is that? I don't know how that works. I felt dirty and bad after watching that fight. I mean you think he was hard up for money? Um that's a good question. I don't know. Because it seems beneath him. I mean I guess he has like brain damage. It's awesome. Mike Tyson is actually my dream podcast guest. Oh my God, because he's such a genius now that we didn't get Trump.

We're going to get to Tyson that like I feel like with the brain damage. He's like on another level of genius. He's like the galaxy brain. He's very avant-garde. And I think we could have a great conversation, honestly. Or like, Mike, what's your favorite sex position? Do you reverse cowgirl?

So you do the pile driver. What's up with the face tattoo? Oh, do you think Ariana Grande is anorexic? Probably. Have you seen those pictures? Yeah. She really like speed ran her way through all these like different races and ages to end up at Judge Judy. She looks like an old Jewish lady from the Upper West Side. She might be on Ozempic?

Maybe you know they're all on Ozempic I guess. Which yeah if you're already thin which she always has been. I also think, yeah, in her wicked promo tour, she's been dressing very... She's still doing the... And speaking from experience, she's still wearing little bows and stuff, which highlights how gaunt and aged you look. Yeah. You know, if you dress like, if you were like a pink dress, like a little baby.

She looks like a Hasidic old woman and or a Hasidic young child. I had this thought because like part of my- Yeah, like a big bobble head. Yeah. Part of my week of rest and relaxation was like returning more video tapes to like Zara and Mango and whatever. And I was like hanging out in one of these retailers

thinking like, fuck these Hasidic women, all they ever do is shop. Don't they do anything else? And then I was like, wait a minute, all you ever do is shop, you stupid bitch. Well, they don't speak English. So? I mean, that gives them a disadvantage in their ability

to function outside of a Hasidic society. So that's all they can do. Yeah, they speak the universal language of women, which is shopping. They go to the Schwyz. I've seen some houses. And they get pregnant. Yeah, that's true. They have kids a ton and then go shopping. Just like you.

A woman is a riddle and the answer to that riddle is shopping. No, Ariana Grande, who I don't really pay much attention to or think much about, made me really rethink my pro-Anna stance because I'm like, oh, this is what people mean when they say like anorexics look bad. Right. Because when I think of an anorexic, I think of like a model or a model or like a normally thin woman who people are like, eat a burger or whatever. Yeah, right. But yeah, it's like, I think you were talking about it's like, getting like Botox blindness or whatever, where you just like don't know where to stop. I think she's so short to you know, it's like on a larger frame. It looks better to be

thinner. Yeah But her head looks so big on her small body. That's her real problem. She's a subhuman because she's under five foot three She is like yeah, I think quite short. She's like that one Randy Newman song I really like. Shakira is like five feet tall. Yeah, that's not surprising. And she looks, you know, think about, think of picture Shakira in your mind, you know,

like, that's kind of a hot body type is to be kind of like, cause you're already like petite. Yeah. So you can kind of be slim. The heck. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway. Oh, did you see Rebecca Hall? I don't know who the fuck that is. I was like, literally who, Who the fuck are you, bitch? Nobody cares about your apology. I did. She's in Vicky Cristina Barcelona,

but she said she regrets saying that she regretted working with Woody Allen, which I was like, let's go. Woody redemption arc starts now. I know. 20 project 2025, we're bringing Woody Allen back. He's gonna make his megalopolis. You know, he's gonna get to make his magnum opus. That's a really funny idea.

Well, last thing is. Yeah. Like what would Woody Allen's Magalopolis look like? I don't know but I'm literally here for it. I mean Midnight in Paris. Yeah. So good. So good. I hate Woody Allen. You do? Not because he possibly molested women, but because he's short and Jewish.

I'm kidding. I like actually love Woody Allen. He's a talented filmmaker. He's my dream guy. My dream guy. I mean, he'd be great. Yeah. Or Sunyi. Or both.

Pretty interesting. Anything's possible in Trump's America. No, I like hate Woody Allen because I like him in spite of himself. Also how I feel about Bob Dylan. I wanna hate them, but I can't. I don't hate Bob Dylan, but I definitely can think he's annoying.

Yeah. He's like obtuse and obscurantist and only speaks in riddles and doesn't give journalists or interviewers what they want. He's a poet, you know? His life is his poetry. Uh-huh. they want. He's a poet, you know, his life is his poetry. But I'm not even honestly a huge fan of his music. I am, it's so bad Dasha, I'm so ashamed. I'm such a

Dylan head, I've seen him so many times at this point. Damn dude, no, I mean I think I'm missing out. Yeah, no you're not, you're absolutely not. No, I mean, I think I'm missing out. Yeah. No, you're not. You're absolutely not. Really? Because I used, there was a point where I definitely was like pretending to like Bob Dylan.

In my 20s, I was like, for sure. Like some guy was asking me. I've only seen him, you know, pretty late in the game. And the last couple of concerts I've been to, it's like him dressed like Ariana Grande yeah looking like a Lolita wife. That's cute I actually like yeah he had like a late career album or like when I was a child so he was you know only relatively old where he had a song about standing in the doorway and crying.

You know that one? Yeah, like I've tried. But he's not on my playlist. Yes. I even like his civil rights racial reckoning song about like Hattie Carroll, who was like a cook and a barmaid. It's true story, who was killed by some like young newspaper heir whose parents were plantation owners in the deep south. No, it was Maryland.

They were from Baltimore. So. Why did he kill her? Because he was, I don't know. I mean, all history is falsified and I'm sure there's a right wing spin on this, but he was some 25 year old playboy and brat who just struck her with his cane and she died.

And she was 51 and had a bunch of kids, was a single mom. And it was like one of these early George Floyd type racial show trials from what I understand. Beautiful song, love to play it on the treadmill. That's cool. It's like, you know, Bob Dylan being a decent fucking person or whatever.

Yeah, he's not very politically outspoken though, is he? No, but he's probably an unbearable libtard. Maybe he's neutral. Yeah. I think we're gonna see a lot of people are actually kind of politically neutral. Well, yeah. And they don't really care. And they were on board with being woke because they were made to, you know, they were like tyrannized into it.

Well, that was my thought with the Dean essay because... Caitlin Flanagan pointed this out. What? That so many people were like, like a switch were like, oh yeah, we never. Yeah, well she had that great tweet that you retweeted and that I retweeted that was like in retrospect, like,

what did she say actually? I might just read the tweet because it was really good. It was a good one. She was a voice on one of the people who spoke in the market. I know, I was actually surprised by her voice because it was so youthful and sexy. You know what has genuinely surprised me? The number of people I know who turned out to have thought gender affirmative care was a bad idea all along and now feel free to say it. Yeah, that was my two cents at the Dean thing because I feel like I can freely say this

and he probably knows this already. And the last couple of weeks, the last month have been very rewarding because I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna hold my tongue anymore and I'm just gonna be honest with everyone around me on a personal and public level. And he's always been a very frustrating guy for me, not because he sucks and he's untalented,

but exactly the opposite, because he's like a good writer and a good critic, and those don't always go hand in hand, and he has them both. But he's always like historically been a little slippery and evasive and won't tell the whole truth, and now the mask is off. And he's like, you know what,

it's actually really stupid that, like, when you privilege the self over expression and self-expression that like makes making art redundant. Yeah, and that the purpose of art, I mean, we should really. Yeah, well, reel it back. I'm like, so excited about this piece, but And also like wall text sucks and you should just look at the work and trust yourself to be able to interpret it You have an experience of it. Yeah There's been an all around like if it doesn't provoke an experience in you because it's so banal. Yeah, I'm like Tedious than having to look at wall texts like contextualize. Yeah It was just a disaster.

And I'm like, I hate you people. You're such parasites. You've like infiltrated, um, museums and galleries and inserted yourself between the artist and the audience to write your gay little wall blurbs and press releases because you need a job. Fuck you. I'm like the Vivek Ramaswamy of the downtown New York art scene. Under my watch, the swamp is getting drained.

You're like the, um, the live painter guy at the Trump building. He's been maligned in the art world. Scott Lobido. Yeah. Who Matthew calls Scott Baio, not ironically, but because he doesn't know. And I don't have the heart to tell him. He does kind of seem like Scott Baio.

Yeah, it seems really plausible. Yeah, he's like a dumb wop. Who's like, I got a message for the odd world right here. I just flipped the bird the way he did at the Trump rally. But it's true. It feels good. Everybody's like free to speak openly and honestly for once. Yeah.

Though I have to like question a gesture like the Rebecca Hall regret over her previous regret. Like it's such a transparent play because it implies that she didn't really she believed the original regret in the first place. I mean she said I read the obviously the article and she said that she you know she said I read the obviously the article and she said that she you know she's I mean she was very like reasonable you know she said I don't want to be like an activist yeah and I shouldn't weigh in on call you know yeah we're like in the American era of gloss nestnost and perestroika. But it's like, okay, there's been an overall like thawing effect.

But I don't blame you know, it's like not people it takes it's hard to have convictions. I know. People don't most people are hedging their beds. Most people live with like, you know, a feeling of precarity and fear and they want, you know, not only to be a good person, but to like, you know, do the thing that seems like viable and socially acceptable. That was one of the best things that Susan Sontag ever said in notes on camp where she's like, you know, all ideology is fundamentally self-serving.

It has to be. It's such a simple premise, but it's true. But still it bears repeating that it doesn't matter if you defend something when it's no longer risky or costly to defend it. It really matters if you did it back when it still was. I mean I wish that was true. What? That it, you know, I mean it matters in a moral way. But you know. Yeah, of course. If you're, I mean, looking at the Trump's cabinet picks.

Oh yeah, we can talk about that. And kind of like reading about these people in politics, you know, they're all like weird liars and. Yeah. And scoundrels. Yeah, like you, but that's how they ended up in politics. Skanks, yeah. So people do what sort of, sometimes people take a risk.

Some people are more anti-fragile than others, but everyone's kind of hedging their butts in there. And I feel like people are coming out on the side of common sense. Yeah, and I feel like also like people who were right along and brave in saying it and are now vindicated, of course, feel a certain amount of bitterness and resentment because at the time they were vilified,

but you also have to accept the fact that those who are courageous to speak up at an inconvenient moment are always going to be in the minority. That's just like how it goes. Yeah, totally. But yeah, we can, I guess we're back to classic Red Scare form, which is like roasting New York Times and New York magazine articles. I read a lot of time. And I really did. I took some Adderall so I really like I've got really extensive notes. Yeah and it's just like you know you know how it is with those kind of like legacy publications where basically like their whole MO is absolving their readers of guilt for being like selfish and clueless. But what was I gonna say?

I guess we could talk about the, I mean, I actually like have nothing to say about Trump's cabinet picks. Really? Like I was on Matt Gaetz's Wikipedia today trying to figure, like I've only, I only know Matt Gaetz as a fixture on Twitter. He's this guy that people historically dunk on.

And I remember him chiefly from the rumor mill that he was keeping a gay sex slave in his house who turned out to be his adopted son and or brother. What? What? Yeah. Yeah, he's under investigation by the House Ethics Committee. Which is dicey I read because apparently they have they no longer have jurisdiction over it because he resigned from the House to take up his post as like the presumptive nominee for attorney general or whatever. Yeah, right. Well, okay, so first of all,

most of these positions, the Senate still controls the process of someone becoming the head of a state department. So it's not, I was under the impression that this was, I was like, let's go. I was like, I think it's like a fun and zany mix of people. I haven't really been online lately, but there's been like a fun and zany mix of people, you know? There's been, I haven't really been online lately,

but there's been like a whole heated discourse about Trump's admin picks. Well, Fuente says that the Jews let Trump win so that they could- They let everyone win, bro. Well, they let him win so that he could destroy Iran. And that's why he wants to appoint Marco Rubio as the Secretary of State. Yeah, I mean, the main criticisms I'm seeing of all these various different people is that

they're like Zionists and or neocons. So Trump isn't really bringing in this sea change that we're all hoping for. Tulsi is really not. Tulsi gets accused of being a Russian asset. And Barry Weiss called her an Assad toady on Rogan. But then once he sort of probed her, she couldn't really describe what she... Everyone has these vague criticisms of,

which I get, like, Assad toady is fun to say yeah personally Even really Tulsi Gabbard is the Ivy Wulke of politics We'll just love to hate her Yeah, but it's unclear you know she's yeah Is not Yeah, is not vehemently pro-Ukraine, which neither is Marco Rubio. He's extremely pro-Israel. He does want to destroy Iran.

Yeah. But, and he's very anti-China. Pro-Israel, anti-China, kind of neutral on Ukraine. I don't really care what foreign policy positions these people have. I like that they're overwhelmingly young and I like that the appointments so far have really made the libs fume.

Wow. It's like Tulsi Gabbard, Tom Homan, Marco Rubio, Matt Gates. People were saying that Matt Gates was basically a kind of symbolic hire because he's not going to get the position. He might, but whatever. I like, I can't make any sense of that. That's not my jurisdiction. Well, um, well, yeah, Trump said that he was going to utilize or invoke something called a recess appointment clause, because he doesn't have ultimate executive power over these appointments. but when the Senate is in recess, the recess appointees still can like wield control of their departments for like up to a year.

But also even being appointed to have these departments just means you advise the president. So yeah, you are powerful, but like the borders are for example, which is one of the only positions that doesn't require like a Senate confirmation. He doesn't actually have a lot of like legal power. Yeah.

We say borders are like it's an official role. It should be renamed borders are what it's just like the head of the Department of Homeland Security, right? Or the head of the- It's not any, it's none of those. He has to work with the Department of Homeland Security and ICE and all these other organizations. So they're just basically like advisors or consultants.

Yeah. And he actually doesn't have, I mean, he will have power because by virtue of where he is sort of in the hierarchy, but he doesn't have actual executive power. He has to work with these other organizations. Yeah, the article, if you took Adderall, I read some New York Times article that said

that he was the architect of the family separation policy, right? Which then linked to like an Atlantic piece investigating the way that some kids were being separated from their parents because their parents were getting arrested. Yeah. For being criminals. Yes. Um, which yeah, it was obviously like not ideal and had all these like human repercussions. Yeah. Well, that's what he said to AOC during that hearing. What? Where she was doing the kind of anime eyes.

Kids in cages. Yeah, well he was a millennial theater kid, waterworks performance. And he was like, what did he say? He was like, you know, like if I commit a crime or I'm arrested for a DUI, or I'm apprehended for domestic violence, they're gonna separate me from my children.

If you're a US citizen and you're drunk driving and you have a child in the car, you will be separated. Yeah, and it was never like a official mandate. It was a consequence of like a zero tolerance policy that the Trump administration implemented. But Tom Homan was hired by Barack Obama and worked in the prior administration. I remember that.

I remember back in the day, leftists were always melting down about him on Twitter because he was the director of ICE at the time. Yeah. So these are basically political professionals who get appointed by every president. And Trump, here it is, in 2018 he signed an executive order banning a family separation. Which Tom Homan also echoed in that interview where that

bitch was like, well what do you say to people who complain that this will lead to more family separations? Easy, simple, we're just going to deport the whole family. Yeah. Which seems fair and merciful. Yeah, the Times article said that Trump issued the executive order, but the Biden administration implemented it, which doesn't make a difference. It's like Trump sent executive order.

What do you want from it? What else do you want from it? But yeah, obviously if they do mass deportations, it's gonna be a mess. And you kind of do want a guy like Tom Homan, not to be a total Barack Obama, but yeah, you kinda want some guy in there who's gonna do, you know?

The authoritarian father. My mom was like, how are they gonna, you know, how are they gonna catch and deport these people? I was like, it's not my problem. Like, someone else has to take care of it. Someone else has to have, that's the point of having elected officials. Yeah, I was looking for this Charlie Kirk tweet.

That was just like a list of all the Trump appointees so far. And I came across this like Joe Rogan clip where he explains why he changed his opinion on Trump and came to like him. And he's like, well, you know, as a busy guy, you can only pay attention to so much, you can only do so many deep dives. And I didn't want to really look into it. And I didn't really think the grab them by the pussy guy was such a good idea for the nation.

And then I realized you need a guy who is completely crazy to expose how corrupt the whole system is. And that's this is also why I find Joe Rogan to be such a frustrating figure because like Joe you're obviously lying. You think he's towing the line? Well, if you didn't like Trump back then, it was either because you were propagandized by the anti-Trump propaganda,

or you secretly did like him, but you were incentivized to keep your mouth shut due to social pressure. I mean, like 26, that's true, but also like in 2016, like Trump, I didn't foresee him winning. No, I didn't either, but I'm saying this as somebody who's like guilty as charged

because I bet if you go back to those early episodes of Red Scare where we're talking about Trump, we're probably pretty like lukewarm and fair weather. And in my case, I will admit that it was just purely out of social cowardice, because I didn't wanna face any reprisal or repercussion, even though low key deep down, I always really liked him. I think I mean, I obviously liked him, but I was still I still thought that there I still believed

kind of in. Yeah. Legacy Institute, like I didn't it just seemed kind of silly, you know, he's silly and like it wasn't well, yeah, but politically viable. And it silly, you know, he seemed silly and like it wasn't well yeah, but politically viable and it was, you know. Well, the other like annoying and dishonest thing Joe Rogan says, though I don't know if he even understands it when he calls Trump a crazy guy, like Trump actually is not crazy at all, like at all. That's the part that seems disingenuous. Yeah. Is being like at all. That's the part that seems disingenuous. Yeah.

You don't need a mad man to expose the raw of the system. You need a brave man. And that's not being positive toward Trump even. Like it doesn't matter what his reasons are for being brave. Well, what was the Sontag quote? All ideology and self-serving. Yeah, self-serving, yeah, something like that. I mean, he's become what he is now,

which is different from what he used to be. Yeah, but it's actually bad to have a crazy guy who lays bare the inner workings of the system because by virtue of being like insane and delirious and demented, he is fundamentally weak and vulnerable. Like a crazy person. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. No, Trump is strong.

Rogan said he didn't go to the bathroom. He came to his studio. They recorded for three hours without stopping. And Trump took no breaks, didn't go to the bathroom before or after. Well, incredible. And Don Jr. said sometimes he doesn't sleep. And that he, yeah, he's like, he's an amazing guy.

Well, people were saying that like, oh, like a guy like Trump really obviates all of RFK Jr's health and wellness advice because yeah, he's a guy who like, okay, he doesn't smoke or drink, which are two major factors, but like he doesn't sleep, he eats McDonald's, he doesn't drink water. Yeah.

Against the advice of like the entire medical community for many decades and he's almost 80 and like looks great and is full of energy and I disagree with that because I think he's just like the exception that proves the rule. Like he's he's very clearly just some else going on biologically physiologically an exceptional individual. It's also very like I'm not even talking about like like intellectually I mean we saw him philosophically or whatever. Yeah. He was glowing like an angel. Yeah. I got to say,

he was amazing. He was incredible. Yeah. And the thing that I will reiterate is that he had one of the best handshakes ever because it was very warm and dry, but not overly aggressive. Like we all know about the weak and limp-wristed handshake which all business gurus warn you against and tell you to work upon. But I've always found like overly aggressive handshakes to be like even weaker than weak handshakes because they're like cope and compensation.

Off putting. Yeah, it's like when you meet some kind of like political operative or political consultant guy and he shakes your hand really heartily and looks into your eyes and you're like, I'm a woman dude, you don't have to go through all this rigmarole. You can just do like normal handshake.

You don't have to crush my fingers. It's actually aristocratic to have a weak hand. That's why I just flop my weak wrist into someone's hand. It's actually a power move. Just clean, direct, straightforward. Mm-hmm. No frills. I go in with a hug.

That's my power move is when someone is apprehensive about whether or not we should hug. Me too. I always do. And it's always a surprise. Let's go, dude. They don't see it coming. Okay. And I'm just like, I just love to hug it out.

Mm hmm. Really? But what was it talking about? Oh, yeah. The Charlie Kirk, Joe Rogan experience. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe Rogan experience. Oh yeah. Oh, friend of the pod, Sohrab Amari, my favorite guy. Yeah. He tweeted, I'm not only liking some of these Trump nominations simply because they throw

establishment types into conniptions. Look, if the respectable people had done a decent job over the past four years or two generations, I'd join them as it is. Why not try Gates and Gabbard? Fuck you, SoRab. He's such a count chocula. Oh my God. I'm gnawtily liking these pics.

Ew, dude. How are you as a man gonna tell me you're feeling gnawty? Come on. It's not even the holiday season yet. Tulsi is interesting because she was appointed as director of national security. Uh-huh. Which is, yeah, it's very,

I don't think she will end up being. After being like banned and investigated up the ass. I think that one feels like a troll, but a very good one. I think Matt Gaetz feels like a troll but it's like hard to say Yeah, I'm one of the articles I read it said that Hillary Clinton suggested that Russians were grooming a Democrat to run as a third party Candidate and help Trump win re-election. This was in 2019. Tulsi was a guest on Red Scare podcast when she was running as a Democrat. It was widely assumed that Clinton was referring to Gabbard who accused Clinton of trying to destroy her reputation.

I mean, I've, it's like a fun workplace comedy, kind of the way that he's pointing me as well. It's like the officer V. Yeah, like RFK Junior is eating the McDonald's on the jet and like Pete Hegseth, who he appointed as the head of the Department of Defense. I was trying to figure out

if I think that guy is hot or not. No, I don't think so. I don't either. A lot of ugly, a lot of gripers. Yeah. Like, meaning the frog and not the Nick Fuentes supporter. Yeah, yeah. No, Hegseth is like, he's like the male equivalent of Kellyanne Conway,

where she's like a weird broken mirror simulacra of a hot woman. Like, if you kind of blur your eyes, you're like, oh, you're like Pam Anderson. And then you open them and you're like, ugh. I mean, I love a man in uniform, but like he's very- He has those Maori tattoos. He does? He has a bunch of like weird, insane tattoos. With those hair, yeah.

Interesting. He, Interesting. He's very vocally against females in combat. But then you have lady veteran Hindu Tulsi Gavard. You've got Brendan Carr, who is the FCC chair, who's gonna go after big tech and punish the woke media. But then you also have Elon who kind of is big tech with Indian Vivek.

And then RFQ Jr. And he has to eat the McDonald's on the track. It's like, yeah! Suzy Wiles, his campaign manager, his chief of staff, is the first woman to ever be appointed to that position. Wow. Okay, so we might be kind of, remember in that video of Trump where he's like,

we're kind of conservative? We might be kind of liberal when he laid out his common sense. I have to clear my throat because I have like Barrett's esophagus from like drinking too much wine and smoking too many cigarettes. Do you want some biotein spray? My hot take is that this is the most liberal administration of all time.

There's a bunch of liberal people with liberal views doing their thing. I'm doing the cancer spray mouthwash thing. There's some conservative, it's a real, it's you know, it's a real mix. Yeah. But really, it's really diverse. It's a really diverse cabinet that looks like America minus the black people. Marco Rubio's Latino. Marco Rubio's from, was born of pre-Castro Cuban immigrants and he's got a lot of wacky, I like kind of didn't even read about his South American

policy because I don't care. I don't care about South America. There's like some Jeets, some people LARPing as Jeets. There was a rumor that that guy, Cash Patel, who I only learned about like some Jeets, some people LARPing as Jeets. There was a rumor that that guy, Kash Patel, who I only learned about like three days ago, Who's that? It was gonna be- That's a problem, that's an auspicious name.

It was gonna be the FBI director. No, but like low key his name is Kash App Patel. Nominative determinism strikes again. Damn, you mean being born Indian? Ash-app Patel, nominative determinism strikes again. Damn, you mean being born Indian? Yeah, Indians will be called like Czech Kashir Patel. People really hate when I'm racist against the Pagetes, but- Do them?

No, they love it. They love when I do an Indian voice and I'm like ladies show bobs and vaginas. I think there's like an acceptable amount of, you know, not even, I wouldn't even say anti-Indian sentiment, but it's like, I want to honestly come out and say, if I've ever said anything, if I've ever towed the line on stop Asian hate,

that yeah, it's cause I was scared. But I've always thought that shit was extremely retarded. Made no sense, was like this perverted Black Lives Matter that made even less sense because the main perpetrators of violence against Asians are Blacks. It's so insane. I'm in a group chat where we were discussing the Dean essay

and somebody sent like a wall text from some art opening that's called Breathe Toward Climate and Social Justice. And this is the first sentence. The confluence of cataclysmic events that mark the year 2020 among them, the global COVID-19 pandemic and ensuing economic crisis, the rise in anti-Asian hate crimes and the murder of George Floyd, which gave powerful momentum to Black Lives Matter and other social justice movements created a rupture. I love how like stop Asian hate is above George Floyd in the hierarchy.

Yeah, that's insane. The anti Asian hate crimes because they tried to say it was because Trump said Kung flu virus that that was causing Haitian guys to push old Asian ladies on the subway. They really I was really shocked with how much steam they got out of Stop, Agent Hate honestly because they're so high IQ and industrious. They really milked that for everything they could. Damn. That was an amazing moment in hindsight. Yeah, I know. There was a fun when I was reading the New York Times article about recess appointees.

Did this like annoying. Some of them do this thing where they like, we'll talk about how the constitution's antiquated, you know, but I also went on some like constitution webs. This is what, yeah. Can you tell I took Adderall. Yes. Yes.

Yes. So the New York Times said in the early days of the country when travel was by horse, the Senate was regularly out of session for months at a time. And that's when they wrote the exception into the Constitution, making it seem like it's like this new, this like old timey thing that Trump's like exploiting.

Yeah. When they were on recess milking their mulatta house slaves, that's when the sausage got made. I mean, not, I thought, but that's one of the things that's great about America is that it was like, we have this amazing document that these guys wrote. And then all these like, weird weasels and rascals get to like, it for their like means and ends. Yeah, they're like subversion and subterfuge. They're making moves against each other in Washington DC.

I mean, the Tulsi Troll is good. Yeah. Because you do really get all the like, intelligence people are upset yeah because she doesn't have any experience yeah not like the old guy who worked for the obama um did you see that video of biden wandering off into the the giving a press. He's back on his bullshit. Yeah. He's giving a press conference for him and then literally like. The Biden renaissance was short lived.

And he went to some conference with the, what's the president of China's name? Xiao Jingping. Yeah. Where he was standing in a very, you know, bad position amongst all these like heads of state. He made America look very weak, very unprecedented. But he's doing his thing though.

Yeah, Suzy Wiles, there's not a lot of info on, she's unlike Matt Gaetz, is a classy and discreet person. Yeah. Who's sort of done the right thing. She's like Paula Deen. I would yeah I would love to see it. I want to see a documentary of Susie Wiles. Me too. Hello Martha. Because she's worked yeah she's worked on a documentary of Susie Wiles. Me too. All on Martha. Cause she's worked, yeah, she's worked on a ton of political campaigns. She is like the Martha Stewart of the White House and it's nice to see all the classic,

most annoying, libtard objections get vacated where they're like, yeah, like Trump hates women, he's anti-women, but like actually he doesn't really care. He looks like well loves and respects women. Carolyn with a K leave it. Speaking of young people, who's that? Youngest press secretary in history.

How old is she? 27 and she's cute blonde. She studied under the other cute blonde that worked after- Kayleigh McAnonami. Kayleigh, yeah, yeah. After Sarah's Huckabee. That's cute.

There's like a legally blonde department in the White House. She's cute. She's Catholic. She seems like, you know. We'll see. We'll see. I should be me just for a little bit.

I just want to be the press secretary for like a week. A little bit. Just let me get up there. If I took Adderall and read a press dossier. Yeah, I fully and wholeheartedly agree with this. I think Dasha Nekrasova should be the press secretary. But I do have to counter signal you for a minute and say that the biggest power move ever would be to appoint Glenn Greenwald as press secretary.

That would be so funny and such a troll. That would be incredible. I would love that. He's like cadty and gay. And like, so all of these political dignitaries are shaking hands with literally Hitler. He's pwning people left and right. You know he would.

He had a good tweet where he said, if liberals want to accuse Tulssi of being a Russian agent and Gates of being a sex trafficker, both very grave crimes, it's probably worth asking whether Biden DOJ never indicted them for that. And why do them soon every four years of incredibly accused of rape hyphenated phrase Bill Clinton. I was just on the subreddit because I'm back on my self-harm tip and there was like some

excerpt from an article somebody posted about how Monica Lewinsky's legal team said that she told them that Clinton, he pulled a really Trump move because some lady was accusing him of sexual assault and he told Monica that she's not his type because she's small-breasted. Nice. Yeah. Game. Yeah. He's using game.

Yeah. More cushion for the pushin'. But it's true, yeah, okay. Look, I was like, again, on Matt Gaetz's Wikipedia More cushion for the pushin'. But it's true, yeah, okay. Look, I was like, again, on Matt Gaetz's Wikipedia, trying to like make sense of his sex trafficking allegations. They tried to smear him for being gay, which is false. They tried to smear him for being a body shamer,

which is true. And then there's this ongoing allegation that he had sex with a 17-year-old and one of his girlfriends or prostes testified that he did indeed have sex with a 17-year-old at a house party, but that he actually didn't know she was 17 and was under the impression that she was over 18.

she was 17 and was under the impression that she was over 18. Okay, the age of consent in Florida is 18. Yeah. It's 16 in Nevada. As it should be. Yeah, no. For Nevada, not for me. I mean, it's not, no, you know, it's like, it's a 17 year old. It's yeah, I'm not endorsing this. I don't approve of this. I'm no, I think it's

hair. I think it's like, just a parent behavior is not becoming of a statesman. But Washington DC is a nasty place. I know. And they're doing nasty ass stuff over there. And all these like, yeah, people in politics have already, they're already like soulless. Yeah. So of course they're having orgies and stuff they're trying to, you know, something's really broken and wrong with you if you're trying to like come up in the hall. I've said this before and I'll say it again, it's so hard for me to imagine that people are having

like eyes wide shut type sex parties with like child prostitutes because it seems like so much energy and effort. It's like murdering somebody like there's just so much like clean up involved like why would you even do that? The liberal orthodoxy is that, well the frontal lobe doesn't develop until you're 25 and they keep shifting the goalposts. So now it's like 38. So I'm technically-

She was just a kid. A kid, yeah. She was just a 38 year old kid. And there's this idea that like women, especially young women can't consent to anything that happens to them because they're perfect and angelic and totally innocent. And of course, teenage girls think they know

exactly what they're doing and they know what they want. And the problem with that, of course, is that they've bitten off more than they can chew and they feel like they're perfectly in control. Well, some do. I'm saying, I remember myself at 14 years old. Anna. I'm just saying, when I first became sexually active

at two young in age, and I thought I had these men wrapped around my finger and knew what I was doing, and of course I didn't. I know but the thing is it's like it's ridiculous that you can like yeah watch like a video of like a low IQ 18 year old yeah ruining her life yeah But like a high IQ 17 year old who goes to some, she wasn't a prostitute by the way. She was like, she went to high school. She went to high school in Washington. Yeah.

And was at some fucking party. Prostitute. And fucked Matt Gaetz. Yeah. You know, and she probably was like, smart enough. You know, but there is just, I'm not even doing like an HBD thing. I'm just being real right now.

Like there is, when you were 14, I bet you were really smart. I was extremely smart and precocious when I, I'm smarter than I am now. Truly, yeah. Same, yeah. So I was like, yeah, I was, I did know what I was doing, but a lot of girls don't. Yeah, a lot of girls aren't that smart. A lot of girls get themselves into bad situations and they shouldn't yeah, I was, I did know what I was doing, but a lot of girls don't.

Yeah, a lot of girls aren't that smart. A lot of girls get themselves into bad situations and they shouldn't be, they're not victims because they're not smart. But you can't say that every single 17 year old. No, of course not. It's a spectrum. Yeah.

Yeah, I remember already at that age being like disillusioned about human nature. I mean, if you're testifying at a house like ethics committee investigation, you are probably pretty high IQ and probably knew what you were doing. You know? Right.

It's always like, this is just like me too. It's like, and also I, there was someone else on the cabinet picks who was accused, had some sex crime, vague accusation. The New York Times loves to mention, but post me too, it really is like people just, it has had the adverse effect that it attempted to because I feel like now people just don't take

sex crime accusations as seriously. Yeah, it literally just eroded the credibility of women. It's like Black Lives Matter, where the fact that a slogan, Black Lives Matter, even ever existed, suggests very strongly that black lives don't matter in reality. And the very fact that a slogan, believe women, ever existed, suggests that you shouldn't believe women ever.

The mere existence of such slogans, like the fact that people think to come up with them. Yeah, it's very reductive and patronizing. And it's not. It's like saying the quiet part loud. That's not what making America great again is about. Yeah. You know, it is about. Yeah.

It's about taking initiative. Yeah, but even the Black Lives Matter stuff, it's like, sorry, Steve Saylor mode, the vast majority of murders of black people are committed by other black people. Well, right, it's just that black lives do matter, but the way of addressing that is not by defunding the police. And I mean, it feels even like crazy to say now, and I feel like it's going to become increasingly crazy, you know, in like 10 years.

Oops, to what? To think that there was a strong initiative to defund the police to protect Black lives when all it's done is take actually ruin and endanger Black lives. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like having, you know, doing the Ukraine war and killing all the people-bodied men in Ukraine.

To what end? Yeah. When RFK announced his democratic presidential bid, I think, in his speech, he said, I really was endeared to him when he said, if we're going to sacrifice all of these lives for this war, we should at least know why.

And that's the thing, is it's very unclear why this war is being waged and why so many people have died. To make them like a dead or colony of black rock or whatever. But it's crazy. I think like also history will look back upon this time and be like, oh, that's crazy that if you expressed any objections to the Ukraine war and the massive amounts of money we were throwing at Zelensky that you were like billed as a Russian

agent and like a pro-Putin saboteur. I know. Yeah the New York Times called Trump the Russian State Media Darling. They were so condescending. And you would think she's Samoan American, Hindu. She's doing yoga. She's a vet. I always forget that. What the fuck is people's problem with. Tulsi is not actually Indian at all.

Is she not? She's a Hindu convert? Yeah, I think so. Cool. She's like L convert. I think so. Cool. She's like a LARPing as a cheat. Aloha, dude. I think the Tulsi nomination, though I think it's implausible,

is the one I'm most excited about because it's a very interesting department. Because she's been our guest. She's a friend of us. But also it's the most like revelatory of like how all of these like identity politics markers that these people claim to hold dear are extremely hollow. And all it takes is like for you to criticize

the Ukraine war for them to call you a Russian whore. Yeah. Also, I'm not really a fan of like vibes based psychoanalysis but I've never met a man who wasn't into Tulsi. She's gorgeous. Like she's the male favorite because she has that low soothing voice. It's not shriller scolding.

And she has that big ass. Here's a quote from the Niki's icon. No, I was just gonna say like the moment that I like truly knew Nick Wendos was gay. She's a surfer. Was when he was talking about, he was answering some pay pig question about whether he would fuck Kamala Harris or Tulsi Gabbard

and he was like, yeah, obviously Kamala, Tulsi is a Russian whore and has those ice pick scars. And I was like, he said ice pick scars? Boop, you gay. No straight man knows what ice pick scars are. What are ice pick scars? I don't even he said ice pick scars. Boop, you gay. No straight man knows what ice pick scars are. They're like enlarged pores that look like somebody took like a chisel to your face that come from having like childhood acne. Right. Right. Which is like such a gay thing to know.

It's extremely gay and right like Kamala is maybe more yeah she's more like she's beautiful like a Hollywood starlet she's very like painted and like you know well lit and like produced and like but she's definitely not. It is funny that her name is Kamala because she really do be looking like Joe Camel. And she's sucked her way to the top you know she does she's not devoid of sex appeal, but anyway, this is the New York Times. But while she has become a darling of Russia's state media,

no evidence has emerged that she has ever collaborated with the country's intelligence agencies. She simply seems to share the Kremlin's worldviews according to analysts and former officials. In Russia, the reaction to her appointment has been gleeful. Like the still level of like Russia gay fear mongering is so it's like, if you're like a boomer reading this,

like you are like, oh no, they've appointed a Russian asset. Asset. Anything to keep yourself from engaging in a searching and fearless moral inventory? They're all Russian assets. So then yeah, Pete Hegseth. He's kind of a BAP type of guy. He wrote a book called The War on Warriors

Behind the Betrayal of the Men Who Keep Us Free, which I assume is about kind of the war on masculinity. And he said, yeah, that women shouldn't serve in combat. But even that, guess who else said that? By proxy, Fran Lebowitz. I mean, it's so true. It's like so obvious and true.

Yeah. I mean, when you make these, when you like issue these like blanket pronouncements, like women shouldn't serve in combat, that's like a gross generalization that encompasses, permits its own exceptions. So there are gonna be always like a handful of strong tough women who do end up serving

like Tulsi Albert. Not that she necessarily saw combat, but. She did, she was a combat veteran. She was a military medic. Okay. And she was a combat she's a combat veteran she was a military medic okay um and she is a combat veteran and but he packs up something so but he's also kind of right yeah you know like he says i mean ask yourself like having women military just makes things more complicated and having things being complicated causes more casualties. Yeah, of course, because it introduces a lot of unwanted

and unnecessary sexual intrigue and tension into an institution like the military. And he says it hasn't made us more effective, it hasn't made us more lethal. No. And it's only complicated things, and it does just make sense. It's common sense, folks.

And obviously people don't like him because he's in the military. And like a murderer who kills, has killed people before. It's a high body count. Yeah, but someone has to do it. That's the thing that these limbs don't get is like someone has to do the tough job.

I know, I know. Of being- And it's not for me, I'm like dying to meet like a real military veteran who's killed people and asking him what his body count is, but it's like a literal not metaphorical statement. Right. I'm like doing my Norm MacDonald shtick.

I mean, a lot of vets, I know don't even like to be thanked for their service. Yeah. Some of them have a road ship on their shoulder. But you really have to ask yourself, do you as a woman really want to serve in combat? No. I mean, Tulsi is obviously extremely special.

Yeah. Athletic, whatever, high T. Well, she's also the rare woman who's able to put the principle of the matter over her personal needs and desires. I mean, yeah, she doesn't seem like she has wild hormonal fluctuation that cause her to be mentally impaired. She seems highly competent for sure.

Tulsi and RFK, I think, yeah, the people who are pissed about Tulsi noted and the RFK nomination has forced the New York Times into publishing pro-seed oil articles. And they wrote one about how he was gonna go after big food. Big obesity, it's like redundant. Big obesity.

But in that article, they talked about how he erroneously claimed that in Canada, Froot Loops only have so many things. Oh yeah, I loops only have so. Oh yeah, I saw that, yeah. And then actually this isn't true because they have the same amount of ingredients except in the US we have like all this food coloring and these other kind of.

The artificial dyes and like, you know, estrogens. Sorry, I'm gonna clarify my previous remarks. Tulsi, she's like a rare woman who can see like past herself to the principle of the matter versus most women who confuse their feelings for principles. Like that's how I would put it. I mean, do you really do you think so? Yeah, absolutely.

What if she's on her period? What if she's in her lull phase? Because I feel like I'm, you know, a relatively sound mind some of the time. Yeah, no, I know. But other times I'm just hormonal due to biological circumstances. Yeah.

And I don't know, like she, she might be pretty low estrogen, I guess, but. It's hard to say. Maybe she's like both high estrogen, high testosterone. I said this on Twitter, but like female morality is like what serves me now, and male morality is like the principle of the matter. And that sounds like a very anti-woman,

misogynistic thing to say, but it's not at all, because what serves me now is often a very useful and productive way of looking at the world. Yeah, it's super sound. And I wouldn't even say that that's, I mean, that's spiritually true, but a lot of men don't operate on that. Yeah, of course, a lot of men just operate

according to female morality, especially now. I mean, female morality in like the symbolic, metaphoric sense. Yeah. Which of course, you know, complicates my argument here because it implies that there's like a kernel of truth that's based in like everyday noticing and observation. Nietzsche said that, and I guess this was something they said in the 19th century, but that women aren't capable of friendship. Yeah, I don't think that's true. But Nietzsche said that you should ask yourself

who among the men you know are even capable of friendship, meaning friendship in the kind of archaic Grecian sense of sort of platonic, gay love. Building together. You know,, friendship. But he was super prescient and right, that most men now are basically women, so their morality is also functioning on a,

but archetypally, yeah, a masculine preference towards objectivity, whereas women are more subjective. But you're also right that like- Well, that's the best argument against something like women in combat. It's not even because they're women and they're like subject to like the whims

and vicissitudes of their hormones or whatever. It's because you're introducing a different foreign thing. I mean, maybe there is a- Into like an established default mode. So it's gonna cause friction and conflict. And maybe there is like a way to use women, like for women to be in the military as like psychics or oracles or something, you know?

Or you know, there is- Muses. There is, yeah. Yeah. Which we have when actresses go on USO tour. Yeah, exactly. Which they don't do so much anymore. We should think about bringing you back, Mr. Trump. Like singing and dancing for the soldier.

But no, there's probably some ways, you know, like, I don't know, women might be good drone operators potentially or something, or the way women are good at film editing. Maybe there's a military equivalent of something that's kind of non-linear and requires a kind of like female creative capacity or something.

But they don't need to be in the army or Navy or like, they don't need to be in the like, they don't need to be a troop. Yeah. It seems crazy. Cause they have their own troop. Well, they have a womb and we're below, you know, replacement rate or whatever it's called.

So it's like women are more precious and we need to protect their wombs so they can't go to the army anymore because we need them to impregnate. Well, okay, so when I was looking up Joe, what's his name? Joe Hegseth. Joe Rogan.

Oh, Paul Hegseth. Pete Hegseth. Pete Hegseth. Pete. And trying to determine whether I thought he was hot or not, I was thinking like, well, okay, he sort of reminds me of, but is not nearly as hot as Joe Kent, who's like a Republican politician,

who's had like a number of failed races. I don't know, he was like a darling of right-wing Twitter for a minute. He's really hot, look him up. And he had a wife who, Joe Kent. Okay. With a K? Yeah.

I want you to look up. Joe K. Let's see, hold on, Joe Kent. I want you to Google Carolyn Leavitt. I will. I wanna get your take. So he's the widower of this woman named Shannon Mary Kent, who was a Navy sailor who was deployed to Syria

as a cryptologic technician and killed in the 2019 Manbij bombing. So it's like this young, beautiful woman who left behind two toddlers because she was deployed on a mission, which is crazy. Like why would you ever go on a combat mission when you have two children at home? That's crazy. This one's Joe Kant.

He's like super hot. He's handsome. He's a little too handsome. He's a little too butt nosed, he's like Robert Forster and Jackie Brown. Totally, and he just lost to this lady. In the house, I guess. Okay, so look up Caitlin Lee, Caitlin also the K.

Caitlin also the K. Caitlin. Lea, L-E-A-V-I-T-T. Hey. Hello. Oh, sorry, Caroline Leavitt, sorry. Oh my God, I'm so retarded. It was Caitlin Leavitt, she's hot. Caroline Leavett, sorry.

Caitlin Lievett is hot. She looks like Riley Reid. But she's, that's just her LinkedIn. I don't know who that is. She's sorry. Sorry for doxing you, Caitlin. I meant Caroline with a K. Caroline Lievett is her?

Youngest press secretary. Damn. 27. She out here looking like Taylor Swift's mom. Oh, come on. She, you know, she's a type. Yeah. But she's, I really wanted to be shady towards her.

Yeah. Because I'm vying for her position. I'm trying to take her job, but I really couldn't. She's- Law and solidarity. She's just clean. There's nothing, yeah, she's- She's like a Madewell or a J.Crew girl.

Well, there's no politico, like everything you need. She's so young that she hasn't done anything despicable. And she's Catholic, so she's cradle Catholic, she's got high social conformity. Whatever happened to Madison Cawthorn? Who's that? He was like that hot paraplegic guy. Oh my God, what did happen with the eye?

No, there's another guy with an eye patch. I think the eye patch guy is hot too. Who's that? There's like an eye patch guy and Matt Gaetz on the other hand again I don't want to counter signal the Trump administration and I want to trust God's plan here but like he freaks me out because he looks like Jack Nicholson. He's freaky. He I mean, he's obviously a really bad guy. Like he's so like you can tell by looking at him. But like, you know, when they do like the Chad Jack thing where

they like facetune. Yeah, the person to look more like masculine. Like that's what like Matt Gaetz looks like, and I don't like it. I don't like his like heavily cocked eyebrows and jowly chin. He has filler. He has facial filler.

I wanna look up his chart. Which is really, I bet he has Scorpio up in there, maybe Gemini. I bet he has Scorpio up in there, maybe Gemini. Matt Gaetz, Astral. I mean, I don't think he's a sex trafficker. I do think I'm so right. I've gotten so good at this. Oh my God, he's a Scorpio?

May 7th, 1982, Taurus, but Scorpio moon. His dominance are Libra, Scorpio, Gemini. When you know, you know. But he's a Taurus. Interesting. He just, you know, he seems like a real opera. He, yeah, and you can, he's a man with filler in his face. And the other night I was watching

Killing of a Sacred Deer with Nicole Kidman. And like a decade ago. And the thing about the filler is that it makes your face like heavy. Makes your face look like heavy and scary. Yeah, Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer is like, bro, she's so cool.

She's like, I wanna throw up. See, Laura Loomer, honestly, she looks so bad. But the Colquittman is still beautiful, but she's not trying to look like she doesn't have filler. But Matt Gaetz, really, he looks fucked up. And the cocked eyebrows is a really bad sign. It's a mischievous look. The cocked eyebrows is a very Scorpio sign.

I was getting into like astrological physiognomy. And they talk about that. Possibly also a Taurus sign. A lot of, so many Leos. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, all Leo men have like the mane of golden hair. A lot of them do.

Yeah, no, they have a lionish quality. I've often found that to be true. Oh, yeah, my notes on that gate say post me to it's not exactly even scandalous to have sex pest accusations leveraged against you, especially if you're powerful or divisive, but the look of Gaetz kind of tells me all I need to know. He definitely fucked that 17 year old, he's been extremely indiscreet and messy. He's a nepo baby, his dad was some senator.

Like yeah, he was a major political player. His grandpa was too. He grew up in Florida. He's some Floridian creep born and bred for the streets of DC. He's doing what needs to be dumb. He's dumb, indiscreet and oh, the Ben Domenich.

What's his name? Friend of the pod. He loves us. Ben Dominic. I don't know. Megan McCain's husband. Yes. He said, I thought the prose was very actually impressive.

Read the quote. He said, I realized that we are occasionally given to hyperbole about the untoward nature of politicians, but let me be clear. Matt Gaetz is a sex trafficking, drug addicted piece of shit. He is abhorrent. His eyes are permanently rimmed with the red stings of chemical boosters. In person, he smells like overexposed Axe body spray and stale astroglide. The fact that he boasted on the Florida multiple colleagues in the House of Representatives of his methods of crushing Viagra and high test Red Bull to maintain his erection through his orgiastic evenings is perhaps the least offensive of his many crimes against womanhood and Christian faith.

The man has less principles than your average fentanyl-addicted hobo. He likes them underage and he's not ashamed about it. Matt Gaetz isn't just your average extreme Florida magnet man. He's a hypocritical ass with the worst botox money you can buy, pursuing an ever-thinner nose and higher cheekbones at every opportunity like a real housewife gone mad for fillers. Every Republican in Washington has an opinion about Matt Gaetz, and 99% of those opinions are,

keep Matt Gaetz away from my wife, daughter, friend, and anyone I care about. Okay, Aasalia Banks. God is ass. I mean, I think that's true. I think that's probably not even hyperbolic. I mean, he literally looks to me like Jack Nicholson playing Jack Nicholson. It's like a mashup of like the Shining

and Seven Easy Pieces. Yeah, I know. Or he's like a huge piece of shit. He's a freak. He should be an actor. Yeah, he looks like an actor. He needs to, well. He would be a, I mean, yeah. He would be a great an actor. Yeah, he looks like an actor. He needs to, well, He would be a, yeah, he would be a great character actor.

Caroline Leavitt's very, you know, she looks very polished and actorly too. Yeah. She's always got like, you know. This is from the Matt Gaetz Wikipedia. Gaetz opposes abortion. On July 23rd, 2022, he gave a speech at the Student Action Summit gathering in Tampa, Florida, in which he said that overweight or unattractive women

were unlikely to become pregnant and mock them for supporting abortion rights, saying they're like five, two, 350 pounds, and they're like, give me my abortions or I'll get up and march in protest. Olivia Juliana, a Texas teenager, tweeted a post mocking Gates, who responded with a photo of her that according to NPR,

implied his comments had touched a nerve. She used the incident to raise over $2 million for abortion funds. In January 2018, Gates defended a statement by Trump that reportedly said Haiti and African nations were shit hole countries, saying that Haiti was covered by sheet metal and garbage and in disgusting condition. He also argued that providing for flights and hotel rooms

for people that you're dating who are of legal age is not a crime. I mean, it's not a, it's not. You should know he's a lawyer. He's gonna be the attorney general. Matt Gaetz is like what liberals think Trump is. He's the real grab him by the pussy guy. He is, I know.

He's like David Carradine. He's like the type of guy who would kill a hooker and inter her in the hotel drywall. I'm sure he had. But Ann Coulter had a great quote tweet, pick me quote tweet, where she said he's good on immigration of the Meghan McCain's husband. Ann Coulter has been popping off. Yeah, maybe I'm doing a Joe Rogan thing with my instinctual distaste for Matt Gaetz,

just based on physiognomy alone. No, no, no, I think your instincts are correct. He's so scary. He's like, if a gay guy was a straight guy, I understand why the gay rumors are proliferating. Oh my God, that is, I mean, he's probably bisexual. Yeah, they're like, we're remaking American Psycho. Why?

I mean, yeah, he's got a really, he's got a bad look about him, but never, I'm never, cut that in. I'm gonna cut it, I'm gonna cut it. I swear, please, please cut that, that's cut it. Please cut that. That's not good. It will be. That's already be a clip. I can. I know. I know. Shouldn't have said that. But hey, I'm being honest. I said that thing about how like kids today are too fat and retarded to molest and people really seem to like that. Sure. No one ever came for me over that one. Yeah.

Sure. No one ever came for me over that one. Yeah Well, so Stephen Stephen Chung who Stephen Miller Director of communications we emailed him. Oh, right. Oh, that's why I like Marcus Epstein director of communication Marcus Epstein, director of communications. Lee Zeldin, head of EVA. He just kind of throw in loyalists out there, which is fun. It is, yeah, it is like a fun workplace comedy to watch them roll in.

I know, liberals are like, no, you can't staff your cabinet with loyalists after they've been doing it for like mad long. Well, it also is just not like an official staff. That's what I also didn't realize. Like I was, you know, elated being like, let's go. RFK Jr is like gonna ban birth control and Junior is like gonna ban birth control and make everyone like hot and stuff. And make everyone nut again. He's gonna get the sperm count up like we're getting the fuck in.

But it's not like he has to be approved by Senate. Yeah. We're just you know who know I don't know. But maybe if we get to do this recess thing, yeah We're going on recess. Yeah, maybe if a house is out on horseback We have to return Does it means to be conservative? We have to return to being a liberal Democrat. I mean, so true.

I just think that these people are also like war and pro-focus. Whoa. Damn, that's gonna be tough. I'm gonna have to work on my speech impediment when I'm the press secretary. They should make Marcus Epstein the press secretary. Glide would be really good. Yeah. That would be really fun.

Yeah, there's been just like hot white girl supremacy in the press secretary role for a while. Not Sarah Huckabee. Even like Jen Psaki, she was the press secretary role for a while. Not Sarah Huckabee. Even like Jen Psaki, she was the press secretary, right? She's not hot. She's not hot, but she's hot enough for politics. She was like hacking the big natural.

Jean Pierre is pretty. She's pretty. We need to get a gay guy up in there. Who is better at communicating than gay guys? They love it. He's like sending voice memos. There's like two than gay guys? They love it. He's like sending voice memos. There's like two things gay guys do well and it's bareback sex and communication.

Three minimum voice memo. You know it's a gay guy texting you when they send the voice message. Yeah, it's like Paul Cooper or Patrick Sandberg being like, I'm so sorry to do this to you but. That's exactly who I'm so sorry to do this to you. That's exactly who I'm thinking about. So I was at Chateau last night.

So your phone like goes blank. You have to like reopen it and scroll through it again to listen to all of it. He was like tap your phone to keep it on it so long. Salome's not gonna like this, but this is how I know she's a man because she'd be sending those voice memos. I mean, so true. But I like getting her voice. Honestly, hers are mad-y. I like to get a voice memo from Patrick Sandberg.

I like getting voice memos from him. It's notable. I like it too, yeah. I don't actually mind the voice memo. Sometimes Maddie and I do it with this little insider friendship tidbit where we will send each other voice memos us laughing. So we know that we're laughing for real.

That's something someone said. And it's nice. It's nice to hear your friend laughing. It's cute. Yeah, you know when somebody hits you with the LOL or the LMAO that they have no respect for you and are just humoring you. Yeah, send me a voice memo of you laughing if it's for real.

Let me see what else I have. Am I ex-ten-ed? We literally haven't gotten to any of the articles we were gonna talk about, but whatever. What articles? Well, you sent me those two articles about... I'm shocked right now. articles? Well you sent me those two articles about the Boomer and Gen X people who are grieving the fact that they're never gonna be grandparents and then the other one about what to do if your NYC

public school teacher is a Trump supporter. Which is like. When she's Dominican. Yeah, yeah, like the graphic they use, like you don't even have to read the article, which was, it's like an advice column authored by Emily Gould. And like the image is like some white, blonde, Sandra Lee ass woman with like a MAGA hat and a Trump poster while like a brown student cowers

in the hallway. And it's like, you know that the child is white and the teacher is brown. We've seen the maps. Yeah. We know that we know. Here's why Donald Trump is the best candidate for presidency. Yeah, waking up to the news last Wednesday that Trump won the election was brutal enough.

I know that as a parent it was difficult for me to go through the motions, answer my kids questions and get through drop off without bursting into tears once or twice. I'm so sorry your daughter had to deal with this added burden. Most teachers handle this situation with appropriateness and grace. It's the school's fault. And if you can find the energy to take it up with them,

I think you definitely should. I thought we didn't like Karen's. Yeah. Damn, that's crazy. Though the teacher didn't say anything directly about how she voted, my daughter says she's a known Trump supporter at the school, so I can only assume her intention was in some way to promote his ideas. When my daughter and many of the other students voiced their objections and said they found

the exercise upsetting, the teacher said it was her lesson and she would teach the class the way she wanted. They had to do the assignment. One brave student got up and left the room to go to the principal's office and was not required to go back to the class. I'm not totally sure how to tell my daughter that she needs to respect and listen to this teacher

after she acted with so little empathy toward her students. First of all, this sounds like fake news or at least like extreme dramatization. She's a known Trump supporter. So she didn't say anything. So she's like a speculated Trump supporter. It's so Soviet. But even if everything about this question is real and Emily Gould herself didn't personally author it, it's actually not only a good lesson

in confronting diverse viewpoints, but also in managing crazy people. It really is. I know. Like if you assume the story is true, which it's not, like that sort of behavior is inappropriate because it's wrong to bring politics into non-political classes. Not because the political views of the person are wrong.

Well, her kid's 14. Yeah. So like, I mean, when I was indoctrinated into a liberal value system by at my school, like my history, and I took like AP psychology and stuff. I took like, and those, I had some like male feminist teachers. I've tweeted about this before.

I know, I love that tweet. Isn't it insane that we took AP courses and we were once both so smart and precocious? I know, I can't believe it. Now we can barely get it together. I know, I know. It's nuts. But there's so many, being an adult, adulting, you know?

There's so many other things you have to do. I was like such a good student and such a model citizen. Commuted from my parents' house, took so many AP courses that I had like tons of credits when I entered freshman year of college. So I didn't have to take any of the intro classes, which was amazing. I mean, I think I did AP statistics.

Yeah, like some crazy ass shit, like AP Calculus, whatever, like. No, definitely not Calculus, but I literally, I never learned math. Yeah. At all. That's fine. I learned very basic math, and then I found,

I like gamed the system into taking like AP statistics, because the softest math that like, then alleviates you have like a mouse greater and community exactly transfer into your private women's college. Like I was like, I never I just never really did it. Well, Dasha, as you know, that's how I really got into AIDS. Because I was trying to avoid taking a hard science like physics or chemistry.

And they were teaching a course that was like the spread of AIDS and gay identity. And I was like, sold. I'm gonna learn about venereal diseases. Yeah. Like, oh, this is my passion. I'm like, oh, this is my passion. I'm like, oh, this is my passion.

Nicolo Saldo over there. Anthony Fauci of like South Brunswick. I mean yeah and then I liked like sociology which had a staty kind of vibe a little bit you know I was like the numbers whatever. But I really just never ever and because I went to a charter school I didn't learn this hard sciences at all. But it's such a waste of time to teach someone basic biology for what? Yeah, that you're not even.

I'm like Pete Hegseth, but for education where I'm like, women don't need to learn about math or science. We already kind of know how to like get a deal and track our ovulation. Unless you really, yeah, like have a knack for it. Yeah. It seems like. Unless you're Jewish or Iranian. You're an Indian girl.

Chinese, all sorts of people. We need them in the hard, hard maths. But like Gould's advice is to like take it up with the school, which seems like bizarre and unbelievable that they would have like an open Trump supporter among their employees. I'd be ready for them to counter by asking how you'd feel if Kamala Harris had won

and your daughter's English teacher had taken time to let the students watch her victory speech. Don't let yourself get sidetracked by the fact that this comparison isn't just apples and oranges, it's apples and convicted felons. Oh, oh. This is why your husband went to the Ukraine to avoid you. It's not.

You didn't expect to get a grip man. It's insane. Well, remember we talked about her before because she was like on the brink of divorcing her husband, Keith Gesson. She wrote that horrible piece about the affair. Yeah. It's she's a monster.

You didn't expect these kinds of lessons to be on your daughter's ninth grade curriculum, but unfortunately they are. The great thing happening here though, is that she knows without a doubt that she has you to help her make sense of these experiences. The fact that your daughter came home and came straight to you with this,

means she trusts you implicitly to guide her through the difficult situations. Take a moment here to congratulate yourself on being a good parent, then use that confi... Emily Gold, Emily Gold. Then use that confidence to gather the strength and momentum you'll need to get through the next four years. Take your moment to congratulate yourself

on being a good Democrat. The next 12 years, honestly. You're gonna wanna brace yourself. I wish it were true. Me too. I wish it were true that there was this Dominican MAGA teacher who was shoving Trump dogma down her students' throats. And that forced them to learn a powerful lesson about, again, managing the deranged and delusional. I mean,

I had teachers like this growing up. I've told the story before, but my fourth grade social studies teacher who was like a crunchy, Birstock, grateful, dead ass, chain smoking lady called Mrs. Brelob who said, vividly remember this, well, you're too young to vote, but tell your parents to vote for Clinton. And I remember even then having had no, like I had no political opinions. I didn't know what a Democrat was, what a Republican was,

like what liberal or conservative meant. But even then I felt this inarticulated sense of injustice. Like who the fuck are you telling us to sway and manipulate our parents? And it's also so dangerous because she could assume in a classroom that was like very diverse because it was a middle-sex county, New Jersey Jersey filled with legal immigrants that a lot of those parents were conservative and would have a problem with it. Sure. It's like insane.

I mean, in high school definitely like, yeah, my teachers are very openly, but it was George W. Bush, she was a rap war, it was like, you know, it was different. It seemed very like common sense and normal to be liberal. And then when I went to Berkeley Community College and read Howard Zinn, and so like, then it was like really shoved down my throat. But even in high school, it was always, you know, there was always a very implicit liberal bias. Yeah, always. That I never even really questioned.

Yeah, and the implication, like the whole point of education is that you should question that bias, even if it turns out to be right. I know, but you get too much to ask. I know. Public school teachers, you know, it's. But it's impossible not, you know, if they are teaching like history or something. Or AP psychology. Remember that tweet that you sent me that was like some music nerds spurging out and being like Eli Kessler, get away from that woman. She's a monster and a wasteoid. And she's like a radical right wing conservative and your legacy is in danger.

One of the fun facts about Eli, because he was always like an ornery and cantankerous conservative, was that he protested Howard Zinn coming to Boston when he was in high school. That's so funny, That's so cute. Like being like a Ben Shapiro ass 17 or 18 year old. Yeah well Riley was um when I was prepping for the pod I was like

uh I was like I'm I was like it's a lot of information taking in right now and I was like I was like I want my cockabee now. And I was like, I was like, I want to have Mike Huckabee, or who cares? He was like, I voted for Mike Huckabee because he was like an evangelical. Mike Huckabee was the... He's like the family guy guy. He's a big fat funny looking dude with a big fat funny looking family. He's the tentative ambassador to Israel appointee in the Trump administration because he's an evangelical Christian who are very, very huge, a huge base. Huge, beautiful, huge, beautiful base

for Trump as evangelicals. And they are all Zionists because they believe that Christ in the second coming of Christ will literally be raptured. But then it's so crazy, it's like we'll be returned to earth but we need the Jews to control Israel because the old covenant is still good. And so they need the Jews to have Israel

when Christ comes back. And then when he does, the Christians will go to heaven and then there'll be a seven day judgment period. And that's my cockabee's like religious. It's completely, so. So I'm glad he'd be a great ambassador to Israel. That's all I have to say. It's really smart.

They should really punish Nick Fuentes for like desperately vying for a job in the Trump administration and failing by hiring him, but making him the ambassador to Israel. I mean, he would love that, but he's, you know, I don't know. I do have such an attachment to Fuentes, but he's, I don't know. I do have such an attachment to Fuentes

and it's not because I agree with really anything. I don't, but it is this, he feels almost like David Letterman to me. I find it so comforting to tune it. I like that it's like, oh, the streaming is so effective that it's like, oh, Juan Taz is on, put him on, and it's just kind of like nice ambient. There's something and he is so, he's good at what he does.

He's not. He's quick and funny. We can't deny it. He's a talk show host. He's not like a politician. He's obviously not, because he's not gonna fall in line. I know, if we still lived in the golden age of broadcasting, He's not like a politician. He's obviously not, cause he's not gonna fall in line with Israel.

If we still lived in the golden age of broadcasting, he would just be like a really excellent late night talk show host. Yeah, I know. But he's had to resort to other media. But it's very funny to me when he like homosexual lashes out at like JD Vance or Matt Gaetz. And I'm like, you're like on the same spectrum of men.

Gaetz is kind of the only cabinet nominee he likes. And I'm like, you're like on the same spectrum of men. Gates is kind of the only cabinet nominee he likes. Cause he thinks the rest of them are Zionists. Yeah. But Gates, he's actually pretty on board with. Yeah, a man after his own heart who would like bury a hooker in some motel drywall. Ha ha ha ha.

in some motel draw wall. But he's, you know, he's just a kid. He's still refining his craft, you know? And then he'll come around. Yeah. He'll get on team Jews. No. They all do in the end. But he's obviously talented.

Yeah, that we can't take away from him. You know, but he's doing his thing. How long have we been going? We can wrap it up for almost at the two hour mark. Oh, cool, cool, cool. Let me see. Oh, RFK Junior's cousin, they're under the bus. Yeah.

Very disrespectful. Should we talk about the grandparents article? Did you read it? I did, yeah. It was sad. It was sad. I mean, yeah. It was like a New York Times article

called the unspoken grief of never becoming a grandparent. A growing number of Americans are choosing not to have children. Their parents are grappling with what that means for them. And yeah, there are boomers and genxers who like selfishly also had kids really late in their lives. So then now they don't get to be grandmothers. Yeah, and their kids are all like in their 20s and 30s.

So there's obviously clearly still time for their kids to like do what they did and have a kid later in life, which they probably will. But like they're too selfish to even see the writing on the wall. I mean, they might are. Yeah. So test. Is it like 50% of women will be childless? Yeah.

Here's a statistic from the article. A little more than half of adults, 50 and older, had at least one grandchild in 2021, down from nearly 60% in 2014. Among falling birth rates, more US adults say they're unlikely to ever have children for a variety of reasons. Chief among them, they just don't want to.

And there's this one interview subject who kind of gets to the heart of the matter where he says, like, that's the best and worst thing about having kids, you watch them make their own decisions different from your own. And that's like the problem in a nutshell. Because the parents didn't really place any expectations on their children. And they thought they were coming from a good place. By encouraging their kids to quote, make their own decisions. But of course, like the more likely reality is that they were just like selfish and checked out and leading their own lives and didn't even think

to think about the future and what it would look like. I mean, yeah, I think that's true. But charitably, I also think a lot of them, yeah, kind of did buy into very like permissive parenting. Yeah, like or feminist myth. Yeah, they were, you know, they wanted their kid. They like didn't, they were self denying almost in a way in wanting to place expectations on their children

to fulfill their desires, but it's actually very normal to, yeah, want progeny and want your children to reproduce and to encourage them and enable them to do so. They've also like, yeah, it's not, it's their fault that people are reproducing. Like on one hand, I have a lot of sympathy for these people and their sense of grief and loss,

but on the other hand, it's very hard to have sympathy for them because they did this to themselves. Exactly, yeah. It's like the famous, it's not famous at all, it's an obscure Grateful Dead song when Jerry Garcia's like, ain't nobody messin' with you but you. Althea, the best song about a sensitive young man ever written.

If your kids don't want to have kids, yeah, look inward. It reminded me actually of Zizek's point about like the old school authoritarian father versus the permissive postmodern father. He has this bit where he's like, you're a kid of about like eight or ten years old and you have this grandma who you don't want to visit because she's boring and senile and her house has the old person smell and the authoritarian father is like I don't really care about your feelings you don't really have a choice in the matter you're gonna go visit your grandma because it's the right thing to do and it's your duty. And meanwhile, the permissive father is like,

he'll never give you a direct order and he'll say something like, you go visit your grandmother, but only if you want to. And his point is like, well, you the kid are not an idiot. And you can see the writing on the wall and what that means. And beneath the appearance the apparent the appearance of free will is a much harsher order, which is like you're gonna go see your grandma

and you're gonna like it. And it's obviously not the lack of freedom, but the guise of freedom that makes people like short circuit and like break down from like analysis paralysis. Yeah. And it feels like a lot of these people from like analysis paralysis. Yeah. And it feels like a lot of these people from like boomer gen X generations wanted to be liked. They wanted to be hip.

They wanted to be seen as open-minded and their kids friend. And part of the- Well, one of the women in the article, her kids at 42 says that she, yeah, once she had children, she realized that, you know, it was this incredible joy in her life.

And then she really wanted to be like a cool grandmother. She's like aging out of that possibility. And she doesn't actually really have anyone to blame for herself. Yeah, and she has all these like Velveteen Rabbit and like Dr. Seuss books and that she wants to like share with her like Non-existent grandchild and it's like really sad because her kids like autistic And you won't be able to pair bond with someone

To have successful relationships, and it's not just their fault. Obviously. There's like tons of you know, yeah Factors, but like what all these people understand, at least subconsciously, is that to be a parent is to become the villain in some way. Like your kid will hate you and rebel against you. What they don't fully appreciate is that your kid is gonna hate you and rebel against you no matter what. So you may as well just like lay down the law

and have a firm hand. Yeah, give them a chance. You know? Yeah. And they never wanted to like assume this role of being an authority figure because in their mind, it meant that they would be an authoritarian figure. And the funny thing about that Zizek bit, which you can find on YouTube is that he's using it as like an allegory or metaphor for how politics functions.

And why a more conservative, whether it's a actually conservative or more socialist approach is better than having like a- Yeah. It's like whatever side of the Cartesian plane. Yeah, the top part, the authoritarian part. So he's making like a political allegory or metaphor, but actually the meaning of that lesson

is like totally literal and not metaphorical. You can strip it of all of its allegorical and metaphorical content because it's like literally about like parenting. Well, it does have like, I mean, I've avoided I saw something that was like every demographic basically gained points with Trump. Yeah. Except for amongst well amongst non whites, to a smaller degree,

but amongst white people over 65, they hate Trump. Yeah, because he reminds them of a more successful version of themselves. It's like covert narcissism. And they have this like, yeah, like boomer era framework where they still, you know, their idea of like social justice and what it means to be like revolutionary

or whatever, Trump just like rubs them the wrong way and doesn't align with their worldview, Trump just like rubs them the wrong way. And doesn't align with their worldview, which is extremely like sheltered. Yeah, even though he could actually stand to be more of what they think he is. They experienced the sense of grief and loss, even if they understood at an intellectual level that their children do not owe them a family legacy,

said Claire Bidwell-Smith. Well, they do. A therapist based in Los Angeles and the author of Conscious Grieving. It doesn't help that our society tends to paint grandchildren as a reward for aging, but that's literally what being part of a family means. It means that you owe these people

who you didn't choose something, like literally. And also the reward for aging is having grandchildren You rear these children's yeah, they'll give you grandchildren. Yeah, it's not society painting it that way. It's literally just observable accurate reality And I mean that's you know When people talk about being pro-life you know, when people talk about being pro-life, you know, and get sort of smeared as these people

who wanna strip rights away from women, it's like what it actually means to be pro-life is to be like pro progeny, pro, you know, like pro, literally life, pro like say yes to life. Yeah, it's not a negative value taking abortion away from women who want it, it's a positive value, like incentivizing, encouraging women to have children. Making it possible for them to have children,

which yeah, clearly we've failed as a society in that regard. Ms. Bidwell Smith said it was important for parents like Ms. Perry to give themselves permission to acknowledge and sit with their grief. For some that is difficult. They may see themselves, they may tell themselves they should simply get over it

because there are far more serious types of loss in the world. It's like, what are they talking about? Like what's a more serious form of loss than like not having grandchildren? Like climate change or the plight of the indigenous peoples and other stuff that doesn't concern you. I mean losing a child.

Yeah, but like they're not talking about that. They're talking about like abstract global phenomena. And by the way, I'm not- I hate this therapy speak. I know, you have to give yourself permission and sit with your grief. And like, again, in the immortal words of your father, you people permit yourselves too much. That's like literally all it comes down.

Like you should stop being so self-indulgent and overthinking all the time and just like bite the bullet and do it. I mean, at that point, it's too late. They can't, they don't have the choice to do it. Unfortunately, there's nothing. No, I know. And by the way, I know.

And by the way, I'm not telling people that barrel of a gun that they should and must have children and grandchildren, but if you choose not to, then that has to be a conscious choice and you have to be prepared to accept the consequences, the regret, the feeling of failure that might arise in the future

and that you didn't bank on. But these people did choose to have kids. They just reared them incorrectly so that children no longer want to procreate. So they're being deprived of like, yeah, a very like fundamental and universal human experience of having a family. Because they, yeah, it's very just, unfortunately.

It's sad, it's sad, but there is like a justice in it that like I think people just didn't account for. Yeah, I mean, my instinctive feeling about it was always like, okay, if you're relatively young and smart and attractive and healthy and able-bodied, you kind of owe it to yourself and to society to have children.

But I'm also gonna play my own devil's advocate and say that all this hysteria over birth rates is probably overplayed because nature does have a way of healing itself. You mean it's good that people aren't broken? I don't know if it's good, it's just like a reality, a fact of life. Yeah.

And like the world will adjust and adapt. I mean, I believe in divine providence. Yeah. You know, I don't think there's like a single hair on our head that God hasn't like accounted for. So there's less people and that must be for a reason. Yeah. But I think, yeah, unfortunately, a lot of people are just extremely ill equipped, which includes their like, the bad parenting they were subjected to. And well, boomers, that's why it's so especially frustrating is because these boomers who didn't have kids

until their 40s came of age in a time where it was extremely viable for them to buy property. They were in a very, they lived. They came, it's not the same reality that their kids are now up against where it does feel like basically impossible for them to even meet someone, let alone like start a family.

So in that way, once again, it's really on them because they like had everything going for them and they are the ones who squandered it. And I thought that this article was really like, like the death of the wasp. Like, cause I think so many wasps honestly fell into this trap. Where they had this kind of like white man's burden,

permissive liberal parenting style. It's like the Ivan Illich thing. Like there's always a watershed moment and permissive liberal parenting style. It's like the Ivan Illich thing, like there's always a watershed moment and at some point too much tolerance yields intolerance. That sounds so gay and annoying. I sound like Jordan Peterson. But one of the best lines Jordan Peterson had,

which I'm gonna like butcher now, was he was like, you know, like, if you are a regular normal person who has no evidence that you're exceptional, you should stop trying to buck the trend and just do as most normal, regular people have done throughout time and history. And even if you are a secret genius

and you suspect that about yourself, you should probably do it anyway. a secret genius and you suspect that about yourself, you should probably do it anyway. Yeah. And it'll serve you probably. Yeah. But yeah, we can. I'm just thinking about how the New York Times

has assumed the original business of the Catholic Church, which is selling indulgences. They sell indulgences to liberals. For a low, low price though. That subscription is really expensive. Where they're like, oh, you should be kind to yourself right now and sit with your sense of personal disappointment.

Just sit with your grief. There's no larger indictment to be made of any choices that you've made or the direction in which you've steered society. It's just, you can take a moment and just, yeah. Like, yeah, it's just very like therapy, non-speak, very ineffective, very vague to just tell people to like therapy, non-speak, very unaffected, very vague to just tell people to like live, sit with

like the way that they feel. Which I guess someone has to do, because at that point, you know, it's not like they can force their children to procreate. Yeah, and they're like, oh, you should just sit there and be self-indulgent and flagellate yourself. And that'll yield some greater compassion and empathy and whatever.

And that's not what you're supposed to do. You have to just accept your decisions and move on. Yeah, you have to live with being a grandchildless person. Hoo hoo hoo. And just look at that mortality hat on. You have to get into gambling and gardening. Totally. Yeah. Get a nice hobby.

Antiquing. Dogs. You have pets. Selective breeding. Exactly. That's true Anyway, yeah, we're back. Yeah, we're so back you