Red Scare - Jimmy Krimmenal

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

The ladies discuss Jimmy Kimmel's temporary cancellation, Trump's H-1B fee, and the new Kanye doc, In Whose Name?

Okay, all the things you said, all the things you said, running through my head, we're back, we're back, indeed. We're back, indeed. back to where we started in the shitty home office. I think we actually started it. In the living room right now. Where did we start? We did our first one in a studio. Right.

And then I think at Adam Freedlin's house because he had the Zoom recorder. Right. And then we were jumping around, but since I've been living here and... We used to do it in the daytime.

Yeah. And not drink as much. Yeah. But then we've sort of transitioned into the late night space. Night out, a couple of night owls, what can I say? Um, um, uh,

we watched the Kanye West documentary. We have a good docket. Yeah, pretty plentiful. Um, not embarrassing. Kanye is just so, great yeah he's just such a like the so yeah it's called in whose name do you want to just dive right into the dock and then we can get around to like because what else is going on Kimmel

Kimmel which by honestly by the time we upload this episode yeah um Tanahisi Coates I don't know if you read that one I skimed it I mean that's yeah well now that I guess we can talk about Kimmel We can, well, they sort of, when I saw the Kanye duck, I was like, oh, it feels kind of, you know, interesting little cameo from Charlie Kirk in the Kanye dog, as well as Hagey. Oh, yeah, and Kenna, I know. And she's, like, trying to reach out to Kim because Kim is crying, because Kanye is, like, screaming at her. This is basically a documentary about Kanye yelling at people while they play on their phones. But I guess he greenlit as a documentary that raises awareness about his personal mental health struggles, not like mental health issues in general. Yeah, he never says mental illness or even like mental health struggle.

He just uses the word mental health, the stigma of mental health. And then at one point he says this mental health shit's crazy. But yeah, this kid has been filming him for years since he was a teenager. The doc, there's a lot that's definitely not in it, you know. Well, yeah, I was, like, struck by how many celebrity cameos there were, which is, like, not surprising, obviously, because Kanye's, like, one of the most famous living artists and people in the world. But it was, like, who was it?

Chris Rock. Oh, yeah. Dov Charnie. Yeah. These are like the least famous of the celebs. It was, oh yeah, Tiana Taylor. Also not that famous.

I don't know why. Diddy, Virgil, Elon. Oh, yeah, Lady Gaga. Trump, Pharrell, yeah, Drake, Aesap Rocky. Trump's kind of not really, you know, they kind of just cut to the footage. Yeah, DMX. Oh, yeah, DMX.

Doing his, like, Preacher Man bit. As he's Ansari. Rick Rubin, David Letterman, speaking of late-night TV. Well, he's also not really in it. It's like a clip of him from like talking. James Terrell show or something? Okay. It's funny how all these like rich guys like Letterman and Rick Rubin, they, I bet you James

Terrell is like this too. They just like grow out the woolly white beard and start dressing like a Buddhist to signal how they've renounced worldly material possessions. Totally. There was a guy sitting next to us who looked exactly. He looked like John Baldassari. He was like a disheveled. He had like a bearded with a braid and stuff. And when they were doing the Black Lives Matter as a scam portion, he kept going, amen. He kept having like helpers, which so did I to be fair. You are a free press subscriber. Jewish and Jewish-coated rich guys love doing that shit. Just like wearing like a faded and distressed easy tea and embracing like pseudo-Buddism. Aging is just, it's so, there's no, I'm scared. I don't want to get wine on your uniforms of the Wap Woff and S.S.

Oh, yeah, the Supreme dude who had a stroke on the company dime and then, oh no, I thought it was Kanye. Nevermind. I got excited. Oh, Farrell. Who, I don't think she should be allowed to say the N word. Because he's Asian. Yeah. He blazian.

He's not when he, I was like, whoa, I was like, Ferrell's allowed to say that? I wouldn't. Because he's kind of saying it a lot. Yeah. He's compensating because he feels ethnically insecure because he's, he's like. He's blasian, but he really doesn't feel like, you know. It doesn't feel natural coming out of his mouth.

He's sexy, though. You crazy. He has them a B-D-E. because he has that deep, like, KJ voice. Mm-hmm. And kind of looks like an Egyptian mummy. I like his vibe. Yeah.

Not a mud shark. And not into Asian guys either, but I'm just saying. But put him together. Yeah. You get something special. Two wrongs do make a right. He also seems like he's like five, six or something. But yeah, I noticed he was dropping N a lot.

I think by that standard, we should be allowed to say it. I know. It's going to happen. I'm never dropping hard R because I don't do that. It's a mean and conti, but it's just, I mean, I, well, yeah, I didn't mean either, is what I meant to say. But soft landing is, is fun and acceptable. And it's kind of hard to do a podcast without it. It's hard to do, hard to sing along to some of your favorite songs.

Sorry to do a lot of stuff. That guy, I remember who canceled Supreme because they refused to release the Arthur Jaffa lynching T-shirts. Tremaine Emery was up in there looking like a homeless person. I don't know who that is. He's like a fashion stylist and consultant who's like a big deal. I think he's somehow affiliated with Virgil. Well, yeah, Kanye, so the doc starts in 2018. when Kanye starts wearing the MAGA hat

that he made himself different shape and then going on SNL and having that tantrum about them bullying him and then tracks his rise even though he's struggling with mental health he aren't we all yeah you know we both were having some problems with our medication in 20,

19. Then there's really no footage from 2020. Well, it's interesting. What's more interesting than the, than what's in it is what's missing. So no Harley Pasternak. No Nick Fuentes, no Bianca's and sorry. Well, I think Puente's only really hung out with him a couple times. Yeah, but that was kind of a large footnote. Bianca's kind of a big deal. Definitely, but she probably didn't want, he probably didn't want her in the doc or well the doc is is um super like conciliatory and respectful to kim she kind of gets top billing as top bitch i would be mad if i was bianca because it's very clear that even though um their marriage is struggling and they have a lot of problems he really loves kim and the kids like you can tell even though he's like crashing out and off his meds and whatever

I mean, Bianca's got bigger problems. Bigger tits. She has more back pain. She's, I mean, that in the whole thing with her is she's kind of been augmented to resemble Kim and she says like avatar. I think there's love there too, but it's really different. He's, you know, I mean, he was on top of the world. And then.

I feel like there's a movie about a guy whose wife dies or, divorces him and then he like makes another woman in her image for several movies like I feel like that's a genre of film that makes sense yeah um oh yeah I almost it made me weirdly want to cry when after his SNL tangent which isn't even so bad in hindsight and oh yeah what felt pertinent to me was like with the Kimmel, all the talk of cancel culture, you know, you really like, we all kind of remember certain aspects of it, but I really did forget how like wearing the MAGA hat was, you know, like how controversial, like, nuclear it was at the time. Yeah, like that that was like, whoa, they

try to bully him and do not wearing the hat. Uh-huh. And do mind control on him. I mean, I think this is like that whole narrative to me is like bullshit both sides wanted it and they got what they wanted from it um Kanye got to feel like attacked and misunderstood and the S&L people got to feel like uh also attacked and righteous it's like the Jimmy Kimmel thing where it's clearly a financial decision but it has like moral and political cover and like it's a win-win situation for everyone involved because like the Trump administration gets to look like it's making inroads on defeating the quote radical left like the studio heads or the network heads or whatever get to cut some financial dead weight with the with the kind of a moral or political cover

and then Jimmy Kimmel he gets well he gets to exit the whole thing as like a victim of right wing cancel culture sure and a martyr of the resistance everybody wins and insiders is reported to the New York Post that he, his contract was up soon anyway and he didn't really want to run it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I believe it's complicated, but I think it is. It is actually complicated in a way that I've,

because when they canceled Colbert, my parents were pissed and they call me, this was back in like July, they were like, Trump canceled Colbert. Yes. And I was like, what are you talking about? Uh-huh. Like, he can't, he's getting an issue of,

that's not how it works. so I already like did kind of looked into it and then with Kimmel again the same sort of thing it's all has to do this company called Next Star that owns that's an affiliate of ABCs right and it's involved in some mergers in lawsuits basically oh I mean speak on it well it's it's complicated for me because even though I don't like Kimball, I am a gay nerd, immigrant child.

Yeah. Who does have this like emotional attachment to the late night. Of course, yeah. And SNL too. Like, I used to like practice my SNL monologue in front of the mirror. And, you know, would fantasize about being a guest on Letterman on a talk show.

Yeah. I thought David Letterman was like the coolest. He was the first, like, cool person I ever knew about, you know? And I thought so, too. And then I found out he wasn't Jewish and it made me like him even more. He's Midwestern. He's edgy in this midwestern and cruel. Yeah.

But, right. So Next Star is an affiliate of ABCs that owns local television networks. Everyone should also rewatch the movie Network. We joined in the other day. Jane Fonda? Faye Dunaway. Oh, Faye Dunaway. Fuck.

She plays the exact. Same difference. Because it's very like prescient, even though it's not, you know, there's no FCC in it. But the FCC right now also, it doesn't really matter. Yeah. Because Next Star threatened to pull, not to pull preempt Kimmel first. Right. And right now they own about 40% of like local networks.

But they want to have this merger that currently the FCC doesn't allow. So they need the FCC to approve it. Okay. So you're saying there is some political pressure? Yeah. Okay. I mean, for sure. But it's more diffused and kind of complicated.

And then after this merger, they'll own 80% of the... If the FCC allows it to pass, which it will because of the new Kimmel situation, presumptively. But like... Because they're playing ball. They're doing the state's bidding. Right. But like the libs are freaking out. saying that like free speech is over

Nazi terror is upon us and this is you know like a Stalinist dictat which where you know no one directly ordered anything but the people lower in the pecking order did as they thought

was wanted or whatever yeah which is also kind of Stalin Stalinist in a way I mean it's not I don't think like it's exactly like a free speech issue because like you said it is also kind of like in everyone's interest and no one watches network like 70 million a year or something no one watches

everyone I know watches America first yeah people watch streamers and like listen to podcasts that's a new late night but that's yeah so I people watch America first and listen to night owls that's the new late night space but Kimmel be basically is kind of just like a patsy and he's stuck between like regulatory oversight business interests this like culture war yes and he's the perfect kind of like sacrificial lamb scapegoat I feel because he like Charlie Kirk also is kind of like a modern you know he has Trump derangement syndrome but about as bad as anyone else in entertainment and he's not like he's not like Rachel Maddow like well he's not a political commentator but he's um the

smug and sniveling prick, and he likes to feel above it all, much like Seth Rogen. So his contempt for the Trump administration and, like, Donald Trump himself isn't even political or ideological in nature. It's just like good old high school resentment that he's not even possibly aware of. I also read in the post that in 2025, he told 1,120 Trump jokes. I mean this is also it's like like these people need Trump because well yeah he like fills their coffers because he gives them content they would be like doomed without him I mean much like the point you made about contemporary art yeah Trump also has made the comedy pretty obsolete because he's so funny yes yeah that you can't even really like I bet most of those quote jokes were him just playing Trump clips and even the Right and adding some kind of like

intentionality after the fact while pretending that Trump's humor was unintentional. When really everyone's enjoying the Trump footage and that's what's getting people to laugh but I do am I do agree with like Glenn Greenwald what do you say? What do you say?

You know I just it's the principle of it for me because I've spent so long calling myself a free speech absolutist. Yeah, I know. I can't be like splitting hairs and saying like this actually, I mean, it's like, but it's not like I care that much and

need Kimmel on the air. No, and it feels it feels very painful to part with that side of yourself. That's a little bit like more naive

and equanimous or whatever, but I'm like really no longer sympathetic to that argument and like I said in the last episode Glenn knows what he's doing and he has to do it and I get it and he's my dog and whatever but like again this argument would only apply if we lived in a country where the left and the right operated on a level playing field and the left didn't enjoy like a monopoly on all academic and media institutions like going back decades right I mean like again Angela Davis, I almost said Angela Engel, I wish, and like

the weather underground getting cushy sinecures at like various in universities while like the J-Sixers and Derek Chauvan like wrought in prison, people got mad at me about the tweet where I said, oh well I would be more inclined to be sympathetic to that argument if Chauvin was not in the can

and well of course they got mad at the stupid idiots that they are. Of course they got mad. Well I know but the stupid idiots that they are because they can't read and they can't People don't know that Derek Chauvin didn't murder Dr. I don't even know that. It's not that.

They thought that I was making the point that like it's free speech to put your knee on someone's neck. Right. Like that level of idiocy. But like, okay, there was there was a misinformation cascade that led to a political trial that led to what I think is a wrongful conviction. Okay. At the very least he was not able to get a fair trial. I think we can agree with that. I don't want to quibble over like Chauvin specifically,

but like the left for, again, for really, if you want, you can say like 10 years, but really like for decades has enjoyed also like total narrative control and are free to violate free speech at every turn. Basically anybody who sounded the alarm about COVID or BLM got canned from their they job or de-platformed or debanked. Like, come on. But, like, yeah, I mean.

And I know people will say, like, oh, well, you don't want to meet your enemies at their level. Like, when they go low, we go high. But it's not even that. Like, I feel like this argument, like, preempts the free speech thing. It's like when Glenn made a similar argument about, um, Mahmood Khalil and how like, well, you know, it's unfortunate and shitty, but he has every right to. state his opinion in these campus protests. And I'm like, no, no, no, because he is a hostile

foreign agent who is possibly paid by a hostile foreign agency and should not be in the country in the first place. He is a national security threat. Free speech doesn't come into play. And you know what I'm saying? He's not a citizen. Yeah. Though, of course, like, again, even non-citizens are protected under the Constitution and have a right to free speech.

yeah but I'm when I talk about the principle of it I don't mean like people's like you know legally right yeah Jimmy Kimmel was first amendment rights have not really been violated but the facts the principle of the matter yeah is that his show was canceled again not by direct order right but like through these forces yeah like shadowy back channels some decision was made and in some ways it's it's more punitive and in a straightforward way than like left wing cancel culture was but I feel like the the cancel culture that we're familiar with was more nonlinear what do you mean like it wasn't again like the cathedral right there's like these institutions

sort of working and lock step. But I saw Dave Portner to make this point, which, and yeah. He's surprisingly good. I actually was like, he's not. It's so annoying, but he's not wrong. When he was saying, yeah, cancel culture isn't like when you say something and get in trouble. It's when people like dig up things you said in them past or like your sex videos or, you know,

you shooting a gun on the 4th of July with your boyfriend on his private Instagram, you know, and then try and cancel you for something. that they perceive as like wrong think or wrongdoing or retroactively. But that's not, it's... It's a little dumb to be like, this is cancel culture and this isn't

because it functionally at all is still like... And so much of what people experience as cancel culture was like a self-policing, a self-censoring. Yeah. And that's more insidious and like harmful, I think. Yeah. than just like

someone getting a talk show host fired also like there are these gray areas Jimmy Kimmel did not make a flippant and casual joke about Charlie Kirk or his death

he lied about the political affiliation of the shooter I'll pull up the comment and it wasn't even yeah the joke itself that was like the kind of set up to the joke yeah so it was at that point already we knew the shooter wasn't MAGA. Yeah, he also made some joke about Trump insufficiently mourning Kirk and having the reaction

of like a child mourning his goldfish because, you know, he's such an insecure idiot and fop and whatever, which is like, you know, whatever, rude and smug, but that's admissible. Nobody cares about that. What he said was, we hit some new loaves over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. So, and then the free press, they're not very free speech friendly because everything is paywall the fuck up.

They need to give a sister a free subscription. I mean, Barry White's just got a huge deal with CBS. Yeah. I'm sorry, sorry. CVS. I was like, oh. Oh, which she's selling over there, tampon, like upset stomach medication. Lesbian tools.

Period panties. This is the free press. The host appears to have been so isolated in his blue sky bubble that he actually believe that Tyler Robinson was a man of the right when all the evidence suggests just the opposite. Did he really believe that Tyler Robinson was a man of the right? I think he knew he wasn't and he was lying. I think he has a team of. writers and he doesn't care.

He's pretty checked out is the impression I get anyway. And I think Kimmel is someone who's coasted by in his career kind of, you know, ascended to the heights that he has by being like milk toast, by being like totally kind of like passable, not a great talent, but like fine, get him to host the Oscars, you know, because he hasn't been me-toed by riding Adam Carolla's coattails trot him out, you know. He should be made to

apologize. Donate to Charlie Kirk and Turning Point. Turning Point does not need any more. And they have to bring the man's show back. We need chicks on trampolines. The Waman show.

Well, but yeah. I mean I have been a victim of laughing cancel culture. I feel uniquely due to my trying to work in the entertainment industry.

Yes. I've had, it's been years of people, I mean, some people have stopped working with me. Right. But like literally random people emailing

my agents trying to get me dropped. Right. People chimp out anytime I'm, I work. They get upset, want me not to work, want to take opportunities away from me? Why are you going out of your way

and going through the trouble? to like occupy or preoccupy yourself with this person for what taking time out of your busy life not to but I feel like I should be taking more glee kind of in

you know the tide change but the truth is I feel like putting the boot on like Jimmy Kimmel's neck doesn't really like take it off of mine no of course not but I also don't think they're putting a boot on his neck I think he did something reckless and irresponsible and whether or not he knew

whether he signed off on it or not. I mean, you know that's not why they can't matter though. But it doesn't matter. If he had merely made an insensitive joke about Charlie Kirk or his death or the reaction to his death

or his politics or anything, that would have been fair game. But he lied to and misled the public about the nature of who the shooter was, which is you can make a credible argument that that can also be inciting of violence. It's a very...

No, it's a very distant iteration, but it's... No, of course not. Of course not. But leftists and liberals are already like in a tizzy and they... I forgot who said this, but... His ratings are so bad.

There's no way he could be a... He could incite anywhere. but they see your speech as violence and their violence as speech as somebody put it and of course nobody's getting radicalized by um jimmy kimmel and like getting out there but they already feel like emboldened to like menace and threaten people and some of the crazies among them will actually go through with it so like he's literally just uh fanning the flames of the situation like it is reckless and irresponsible i really don't think this is a free speech thing No one thought it was a MAGA guy.

They were trying to pin it on the Groyper. Yeah. And like, I don't know. Again, I don't know how to deal with this and I don't have any answers for it. But these people do have to be definitively, decisively defeated if you want to have a positive and productive society in America. I'm not like a delusional maga-humping zealot. And I recognize that they're.

there are many retarded and mentally ill people on the right. Yeah. And within the administration too. And having like absolute power is dangerous because what prevents anyone from setting their sights on you and rounding you up and blah, blah, blah. Like I get that. But like I don't know. I just feel like enough is enough with like the lived hardation.

it's so draining and tedious to deal with these people in their lives and their spin like matt iglesias kathy young moira don again i just wish that i mean when trump won i really you know extended a you know i said it doesn't matter if you weren't maga before we can all get on the winning team now and my hope and now what is that kind of becoming my disappointment a little bit was that post-Trump it's not that we would have like a based right-wing culture it's that like the cultural realm could be you know mostly kind of like apolitical left alone yeah and it's its own devices yeah and when Trump appointed Brendan Carr I he talked his big thing was deregulation yeah deregulating

which now I realize is for this merger to take place and not really about like restoring like people's like empowering people to speak freely which I

naively was like great they're gonna let you know we're gonna make Cassavetian indie indie movies in the new Trump era there's gonna be like a glorious resurgence of like you know

a non-partisan creative expression because not everything is going to be so like poisoned and filtered through like the culture war but it feels like that's only getting worse and the more these like people are nothing better to do the more and everyone's spinning their wheels yeah but the more they like

piss people off especially when the FCC wasn't ultimately really responsible though in a roundabout way they kind of were but Brendan Carr doesn't need to be out there saying like you can do this the easy way or the hard way like he's like a mafioso for it is unnecessary and retarded and they should just be a little bit more discreet and subtle yeah I bet they could have canceled Kimmel and no one would have even noticed well yes like some people would have been like oh Kimmel's not on tonight honey and then they'd like

forget yeah the Colbert cancellation made a bit of a splash it made some waves but it wasn't nearly as bad as this well he's still on they like aren't renewing his contract oh okay so the Kimmel one is more you know because it's like definite well it's still he's preempted indefinitely but I think will be definitely yeah but because yeah it was like his show was on and now it's over it feels more like canceled Kimmel and Colbert that's the thing I don't think they can like sit in a car and talk like that sign filled one he doesn't have like the talent or yeah to be to be a podcast or like us well he's an amazing person then because he's really made it against all odds being like an utter mediocrity that's what I'm that

served that serve him well is being like kind of standing for nothing kind of going which way the wind blows not being too provocative not being too you know kind of nice middle mid ass guy Sianara. Oh yeah. Chuck Schumer said Trump and his allies seem to want to shut down speech that they don't like to hear. Mr. Schumer said on CNN, that is not what democracies do. That is what autocracies do. And it doesn't matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not. He has the right to free speech. As you know, I'm not usually like a fan of the calling your opponent a hypocrite argument because it's very low-hanging fruit and it usually doesn't really serve you and

isn't that productive. But, like, when the Democrats do this, it really grinds my gears because when they talk about the slide from, like, democracy to autocracy, like, that's projection. Also, not a fan of the projection argument because people, like, wield it, like, whatever.

Sure. But, like, they are projecting because they were the ones who originally violated the norms of free speech, flouted them, made a mockery of them, of them and now they want to go and cry about it i have a hard time like being sympathetic to that especially because they did a lot more damage than getting like a rich and famous like late night host fired so much for the tolerant laugh yeah everyone people used to say that it's so

horrible like people really got dude i know jacked up it sucks i mean i'm like i got disinvited from a genre film festival my manager yelled at me for calling Jake Flores a faggot that's so innocent you know yeah I've really like I don't complain about it because I'm professional yeah but you feel like you've like lost work and of course a thousand percent not that like I'm not like I'm not like delusional I'm not like I would have been a big movie star if I didn't go on if I didn't accept your role in it like people getting pissed off at us it's like we've invited that sort of attention by like airing our political opinions well back when um you know I

like this is my like when a Kanye had is Adidas deal you know when I was like on HBO had the movie. Yeah. And then we were going to talk to Alex Jones. I had all these people being like, don't do this. They were bullying me. And I said to my agent that I just had to because I had principles. Yeah.

And he said wisely and Jewishly that principles have consequences. He sounds like Kim Kardashian where she's like, just because you have a job and you work hard doesn't mean you're a slave. Yeah. But I actually really do relate to Kanye and understand how when you are so creative, being hindered makes you feel you may as well be a slave. If you're not free to wear a maga hat, say whatever you want. Yeah, it literally makes you feel like a bowl and a pen.

Like you feel just like irritable and suffocated and you want to react and retaliate. Like it makes a situation worse. I mean, I guess some people are more compliant than others. But my whole point of, yeah, I, uh, Um, what did I just say? Oh, that principles have consequences. Oh, right. Yeah.

I feel ultimately, even though I am a free speech absolutist, I can't really go to bat for Kimmel because I'm like, this is a consequence of, you know, if you really hate Trump, if you really think it's worth it to tell 1,128 jokes about Trump. Again, he's totally free to tell as many jokes. as he wants about Trump, nobody cares about that. Like, they try to make Trump out to be some, like, insecure, thin-skinned baby. And, like, nobody gives a fuck.

The point is that he's lying. He did bring up Kimmel at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. Sure. I'm sure. I'm sure he finds us equal parts, like, irritating and entertaining. The thing is, like, everybody who has ever received negative attention

is obviously secretly flattered by it on some level. And it takes a minute, or initially they are, and it takes a minute to realize, like, wait a second, no, this, like, sucks. Initially, when you're being, like, attacked and oppressed, you're like, fuck these people, like, I'm going to show them. And then, you know, as you get older and wiser and, like, mellow with age, you're like, wait a minute, yet this sucks. This is a mutually masturbatory, mutually flattering exercise that we partake in, like him getting outraged about the S&L cast and producers, not letting him, him do his thing while they were outraged and incensed

by his political display it's like a little tango that people do yeah and I have like as I get older I have increasingly like less and less sympathy for like the the performative nature of it when people like invite

incite these type of scenarios and then get upset about it's like I mean even even speaking for myself I'm like okay you dumb bitch you lodged in an unpopular opinion what do you expect you deserve it. You got to lay out the facts for why Derek Chauvin is innocent if you're just going to be thrown stuff like

that out. I mean, I don't even mean that I just mean there's been a litany of other things. I mean, I don't know if I think he's wrongfully convicted the sentence as way too steep. It was clearly not a racially motivated incident. And as far as the restraint that he used, that was in all

MNPD training manuals and they quietly scrubbed it out of them because it was a political trial and they were closing ranks. and his mother and other people have all this information compiled I forgot what the charge was it was like second degree

like wrongful murder or something negligence actually this journalist who went to the trial texted me a friend of mine gay British Jonathan remember that guy in Minnesota

the crime is called involuntary murder it's unfortunately named and of course It just became murder on CNN and in the public understanding the equivalent crime or statute in New York

would be second degree in voluntary manslaughter but he got 23 years which is insane for that kind of charge and the whole point I mean I think all this rested on the fact that like there was a feedback

loop between the actual court trial and the court of public opinion and the kind of implicit task that understanding was that this was a racially motivated incident a white man racistly took the life of a black man

and like that's simply not what happened it didn't I mean I do get it it's not so much that I care about Derek Chauvan it's that I care about the principle

of the matter it's like a great abortion of justice far worse than Jimmy Kimmel getting placed on like indefinite leave or whatever I mean that's for sure I don't think anyone could say that the Kimmel thing's worse yeah and I think what really grinds my gear again but like it was done under the auspices of this um movement that was supposed to yield greater racial justice and racial reconciliation even though there wasn't really a race problem in America as such anymore. It's certainly, yeah,

didn't feel that way. It was fine. Until the Jews turned the racism machine on. But now they turn the Charlie Kirk

grieving machine on and I'm getting pretty sick of that, to be honest. No disrespect. I don't know. can't I can't pretend like I cared that much about it's really also insulting to his memory right to to partake in some kind of like vulgar and maudlin spectacle well it's much like the holocaust a bit of a money-making machine it turns out and that's why you have the I watched his memorial today it was like it was like the Trump rally you know where it's

hours and hours it's like so exhausting yes they're bringing up always random people. And it's not the most like nutritious or enlightening content. Put on the armor of God. Yeah. Text this number to get your

Charlie Kirk wristband. If you give turning point USA's money and talking about him like he was Christ. That he like made the sacrifice for us so that we can be resurrected. Like very like

not even very thin. metaphor just he died doing the forced love and yeah what sucks is that's like they're not even going to lay him to rest we're going to be talking about Charlie Kirk forever for a while yeah but RIP

again I know I'm sorry I'm being up it's just it's it this I mean Trump announced it tomorrow he's going to drop the cure for autism so that's yeah I mean okay I understand how to liberals this does look very like embalmed and Stalinist it's like you know the mausoleum of Lenin maybe that's just a element of all I mean state public mourning rituals there's or I mean there was a lot of people there no I get that all of that is like true and I'm just it's not I'm

not the audience for it. Yeah, sure. But a lot of people are. Well, it wasn't just a memorial. It was a fundraising thing for turning point. Like, very overtly. Ticker, like the whole thing is. The money flowing so they can finally defeat the left through campus debate.

So, well, yeah, it's definitely going to be here. It's here to, the turning point. for sure the task moving forward to me is basically disabling like handicapping and ultimately crushing the left-wing

NGO complex and the liberal media and academia institutions like that has to be done one way or another like that's the greatest most pressing task at hand what feels I mean

academia I don't care about don't care if it crumbles really sure but there's like other people involved media I you know I want to work

in a like robust and creative big beautiful entertainment industry. I really do want that. And I don't think that's going to happen. Well, that is also a human capital problem because this has been going on for so long now that the people that are entering the media and entertainment sphere are just like dumb, mediocre, lacking in intuition. This probably goes across the board for academia, for medicine. We're facing the same problems everywhere. I mean, great segue for H1.

on bees. There we don't have to get into that either. I just want to spur out about the number like. Okay. Go off. I mean, I just think if the right. I think people are wrong to feel like they're winning because they're getting something that feels like justice.

Uh-huh. because the truth is that it's just not I think it won't exist there's 31% there's a 31% decline in the last two years of any like television content being produced um I think like a 40% decline and like streaming about the same and like movies streaming's like basically unprofitable television's unprofitable it's got this total like house of cards vibe and Kimmel just feels like yeah like a sacrificial symbol or like a distraction where like these entities will kind of get what they want and bright wingers get to feel like they have this like symbolic win. Yeah, I mean, that's what I was saying. But really it's just an unsub, but no, but actually most people don't win because it's,

actually it's all just an unsustainable business model and it's crumbling. Yeah, but we, what we're talking at is like we've unlocked certain originally avoidable now inevitable forces with like technology, with the internet, with social media. I need to start a live stream. Yeah, there's no, there's no really getting around it. It's not even a moral argument. You can't, like, rail against it morally anymore. It's kind of a done deal.

And these late-night hosts, like Kimmel and Fallon and Colbert are, like, dinosaurs in the tarpit of the legacy media. Seth Myers. And the thing, and because everything operates at a lag, these properties and franchises still have a ton of money to throw around. and they're kind of like desperately trying to like salvage certain parts all scrapping other parts and so on and so forth but yeah it's it's like sustainably unsustainable and I don't know what will happen also like you know just like you think about like a human capital yet again like people just like don't have the attention span to sit through a TV show anymore so of course they watch like streaming clips we had a golden age

of television. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe Barry Weiss will do some good stuff over at PBS.

ABC, J-E-W. More like J-E-W. No, I mean, the Jews did a good job. What do you mean?

In Hollywood. Oh, and, yeah. And I don't know. I love the, um, the clip in the Kanye documentary where Chris Cuomo was like, okay, sure, yay, 50% of executives in Hollywood are

Jewish, but that doesn't mean they're like a cabal or a mafia or they're acting in unison. Another thing, I mean, yeah, we didn't really talk about the doc. We got a little sidetrack. Yeah. But what I found very lacking was, yeah, it made it seem like his anti-Semitism was kind of came out of nowhere. Yeah, that it was like a temporary detour, like a random flop. Like what happened that made him so anti-Semitic?

But it was a great when he's like, Adidas can't drop me. I could say something anti-Semitic. And then they dropped him. Yeah. Narrator. Um, oh, what about when he's talking to Kim and she says you're going to wake up alone one day and have lost everything. Oh, and he said, don't put that into the universe. I love that. I so agree with

that. I mean, I agree as well, but I think Armenian witch. She has, she, well, she put it into the universe. Yeah, exactly. He knew that she was really powerful. Or not even, but he, he's correct that you should never, ever, ever vocalize, give airtime to certain catastrophic frightening scenarios because they will come true. Like, you do have to believe in the power of positive thinking. And both Kim and Kanye are superstitious people. And I think she, you know, she was doing it out of like frustration, out of exasperation because she wanted to like, in her mind, she wanted to help him out of,

a sense of concern for him but also for herself and her family but really she was longhousing him demasculating him as he says over and over when he's I think it's after he's yelling at Chris Jenner for institutionalizing him yes he talks about how they de-masculating him

that yeah there's a lot of moments of like him trying to long-house him when she's like it's like a bad dream you're losing everyone around you and when she's like crying at opportune moments and by the way I do sympathize with her position because you know she's trying to protect her kids she's trying to protect her marriage she's trying to protect her business her empire sure yeah and she married Kanye West yeah and this is his personality

being bipolar is who he is he has to be well again it's like when you say not you personally but when one says something controversial and inflammatory you are inviting negative attention and selective misreadings of course and when you marry a guy like Kanye you are inviting a life of chaos and drama because he is a mentally unstable person as he himself would admit and you know know yet they ended up having four kids together which is both beautiful and frightening and you know it comes out that what finally made her file for divorce uh was him going on some like biblical rant about how they almost aborted north and that was the law the last straw for her because well he kind of spoke it too he said even if she divorces me yeah she'll always be the one i wanted to have an abortion and she's the reason northy is alive yeah and then that's when she divorced forced him. Well, because it's a horrible betrayal of your family's secrets that you should never

divulge to the public. But at the same time, he does make a profound and insightful point. And so I really sympathize with the both of them, actually. I see it both ways. When people are trying to say, like, Kim's a cold and emotionless Armenian witch, or when they're trying to say, like, oh, Kanye is like a retarded and schizoid. black vagrant or whatever they're actually both right and both wrong i know they were such a good couple and he is also truly by the way a um raving vagrant on the subway and the

only thing that separates him from those people is his network no yes he's like he's on some he's like he's like he's like schizo typal and bipolar in that same way which Which is like formidable and impressed. I mean it is a compliment. Well, he's angry. Because I envy their freedom. He's angry. Yeah.

And I mean, I, he is a genius. He is. Well, that's the other thing that you cannot deny about Kanye. I really hate when like, right wingers try to be like, oh, he's like a retarded and low IQ. Boop. There's no way he's low IQ. Period. There's no way.

I mean, I wouldn't even, IQ can't even measure what level Kanye is on. He's just, he's a very good. lyricist. He's a very good producer. He's a very good fashion designer. And like, pardon me for using this gay and insufferable and pretentious term, but he's like an ensembleier. Like, it all has to work together. Like, he has like a totalizing vision. Yeah. He's a creative, he's a creative director and he's, he's, yeah, unwell, mega maniacal, all that stuff. But it's all excusable because of what he's produced, what he's done.

Yes, his visual sense, his sense of proportion, his sense of color, no one has that. I mean, even putting on the mag, like,

even understanding, like, the MAGA hat. He's on the, he's like as, the balaclava, the weird tinfoil outfit, the white lives matter shirt,

like every decision is, and I like how he says in that white lives matter moment where he and candy are like at a, it like they were like at a Jibon-She show or something and he said actually in this very cute way like oh like I actually was surprised

that anybody cared about that because I thought that whole movement and the reaction and the reaction to the reaction was already past us and I was out of date like he had no idea and then when he's talking on the phone and going I was just kidding we all know white lives don't matter

he's so funny yeah and he's so but oh yeah or what I was trying to say earlier was when Michael Che comes into his dressing room and is like a code switches and tries to sound black because you know he doesn't sound like that in real life because he's like a Nigerian like Amherst ooh anyway but go on yeah it made me want to cry yeah it made me feel so bad for some reason because it's um Kanye is just like I do think he does he is, even though he gets extremely dark-sighted and scary.

Yeah. He is kind of like he has this innocence where he is just like he's trying to do something. He's trying to tell you something. He understands something. He's trying to communicate it. And people are like misunderstanding him, mad at him. And you can tell it like hurts him that Michael Che is upset. And you can tell that.

Yeah. And like I actually sympathized with Michael Chey in that moment because he was also like, he's like, this is my job. Yeah. When he said, I thought we were friends. I work here. but like but Michael Che is like a normal average person so he's personalizing the interaction of course and Kanye is a person who does not personalize things like that and is not a grudge holder

in that way though he does take things very personally and hold grudges when it comes to him but when he's like lashing out like into the ether he, he, is trying to make some yeah like bigger more profound point and I think he gets like really upset when people don't understand he just like me for real I'm like don't you guys see it I'm trying to help you like he means well and you can hear it like I was thinking about voice physiognomy a lot because you can hear in his voice that he is a shy and thoughtful and somewhat nerdy person much like you can hear in Charlie Kirk's voice that he's kind of like a goof and a doofus and also like a pretty nice guy you contrast that with somebody like um ilhan

omar she has this like harsh growl and like righteous anger and you can tell that she's like a cruel calculating bad person who's only in it for herself and her you know family her special interest group whatever but you can again like i'll die in this hill you can tell by somebody's voice alone whether or not they're a good person Not that anybody's totally ever a good person, but more good than bad. I mean, a lot of women have really annoying voices. That's true. But that's like neither here nor there.

It's like women will have annoying voices and there may be like neurotic and amoral, but you can't exactly call them bad people. Most women are fully capable of being like loyal wives and good mothers and good friends. It's just that they mostly, for the most part, lack immoral vision. outside of themselves and even the smart and good ones make decisions based on what's good for them and their families I mean not if they're Christian yeah well then they they're like literally have a Christian lineage they literally have a moral you know they have a good prescriptive kind of like I'm not going to say what's it what I'm not going to say Erica

Kirk oh yeah I mean, she actually has kind of a nice voice. Yeah. She's a little hot on the mic. She did a lot of voiceovers during the Kirk Memorial that were a little like. Yeah. She's really like, tall. Like, really.

But whatever. Her, you know, she's the CEO. She can make decisions like that. But she has a pretty nice voice. She does, yeah. She's kind of sexy when she cries. No, you can. What I'm saying.

is that you can just tell that Kanye's like even though he might be a shabby and shitty person at times he is not at core constitutionally a bad person I mean he's definitely done some really bad like crazy insane things and he's definitely like you know driven by dark things let's say yeah so there's a um he has great grateful dad lyric ain't nobody messing with you but you and a lot of his problems are like self-inflicted he's his own worst enemy um just like off the dome he has a fragile ego and no emotional control so he'll like flip on a dime jemini but the upside of that is that he's very talented at making polite and pretentious white liberals uncomfortable and they deserve it well that's why they got him addicted to nitrous

and destroyed him and now you know made him act more crazy made him you know it sucks because you corner someone like that and then they just they can't comply

even to their own detriment he's like a bull being cornered by a matador or like an elephant being cornered by poachers did you hear the Dave Blunt's disc track yeah it sucked it was whack what the fuck is wrong with that guy he's so gay I know you love Dave Blunts but like

it was so gay he was so gay he wasn't like there's a lot of stuff wrong with them it's like it's like the Kendrick Lamar Drake disc track where it's like they're talking about like mental health and being like super gay and in their own head well yeah Dave Bluntz is emotional

for sure I was listening to it and I was like damn this is like if I made a song it's like some shit that you sing in the shower when you're high and you think it's like really good and hits and you're like what the fuck like like afterward you're like oh this is just like Tumblr TikTok gobbledy gook Anna

please it's like no I agree I don't I thought I thought it was lazy They're just like it's like stream of consciousness mumbling about my mental illness I thought I'm not your cousin you can't taught me it was pretty clever Um

That's fine But it was mean spirited much like his other distracks. Well, he's fat, so he must feel uncomfortable at all times, which leads him to lash out. I mean, there's a reason Kanye sought him out as a collaborator. Yeah.

And I think Dave Bluntz is really talented, and I think Kanye doesn't always treat his collaborators very well. Sure. But what's motivated? We don't know exactly. But probably Kanye made him feel discarded, or like, what I

have heard happening with people Kanye works with is he like because he's bipolar he like love bombs them gasses them up and then kind of like abandons them or flips on them or starts to become suspicious of them or who knows I don't know what happened with him in day beyond that's not true either that's like a convenient narrative

people who quote suffer from mental illness like to trot out the fact of the matter is like that person loses utility in your mind and you're bored by them and so you have to discard them and like I had two like insights that I came away from this documentary with which is like number one like fame is so like diluting and destabilizing like that standoff between I mean none of these are like that brilliant I don't know pretty obvious but um just it takes you so far from reality it's like it really truly is like a Bruce Wagner novel but like that standoff between Chris and Kanye where he's like mimping out at her and she's like, we care about you and we love you when like the proper reaction would be like, get the fuck out of my home. And she's like completely uncomfortable like airing her resentment and he's like grabbing his luggage and storming off. And she's totally surrounded by like random N.A. CPS Negroes, which is so bizarre. That sounds really racist. People are going to scream

at me. But like, hear me out. These rich L.A. people live in a very multicultural society. nothing about that is surprising or off-putting. Like they grew up with O.J. Simpson. Their kids grew up with Kobe Bryant's kids. That's totally normal. Ray J. Ray J. Par for the course. But like, why are you as like a 70-year-old woman only hanging out with middle-aged black men?

That's so weird. It's so weird. I mean, there's nothing wrong with hanging out in like mixed racial company. I'm a libt hard in this way. But like, why are you surrounded by black guys? Like, it's a gang bang. That's so weird. Am I crazy?

Well, Chris has, she is the kind of matriarch of the long house. Yeah. Look at Bruce, Caitlin. Look at, you know. Lamar, like, they do bring men to ruin just through proximity with their, like. Yeah, Corey Gamble is trying to be like a diplomatic and like. Rob. No one's seen Rob for years.

No, I know. He did, Chloe did like a podcast. with him where she called him on the phone because he's morbidly obese but that's that's crazy to me that she's just like her entourage is just like random black eyes so weird maybe they were they're like Corey's friends or Kanye's security or something it just a anyway there's always like people around yeah like yeah random and then like the second thing is like mental illness is fake I'm sure that there are some like emotional and hormonal the stigma of mental health issues at play but basically what a lot of mental illness amounts to is that you don't have anybody saying

no to you somebody needs to it's actually a good thing that nobody says no to Kanye because he's able to like he really no but I don't mean I don't mean like corporations like dropping and debanking him. I mean, like somebody just sitting him down and being like, shut the fuck up. You need to grow up and you need to like honor your privacy and your family and control yourself emotionally in a nice and delicate way.

But this is his personality. And the medication changes his personality and he doesn't need to be on it. Because he has more important things to do than be mentally stable. I get it. But he's now brought four kids into this earth and like, Like he owes them an obligation or responsibility. I don't let him, they won't let him see him. Yeah.

I think he's going to keep doing him. Yeah. Because he's kind of got nothing to lose. But I'd love to see it. And I mean, Candice Owens does come off. It's pretty manipulative. Yeah. She fully like seems.

She's like praying on him and is somehow... But in like a really transparent and recorded way? Like she weaseled her way in. Like whiteboarding. I'm black. The lie of systemic racism while like Charlie Kirk looks on and like nods along. Yeah. And she's like, no, you got to tell them slavery is a choice.

I love when he says mental health is a health issue. It just so happens. it's in your brain. I mean, being bipolar is real. No, I know. Of course. I get it. I'm being a little bit dramatic and editorializing.

When you are bipolar, a lot of people who are exceptional, even brilliant, are also bipolar. Yes. You know, could be diagnosed with whatever you want to call it. They have, yeah, like erratic highs and lows. manic swings which allow them be very productive but yeah

they're very like emotionally unregulated but if they're you know able to apply their talents to become successful then yeah

nobody says no to them they just surround but the original the mental health the mental health the stigma is on your brain Anna.

No, it is. But it makes you good and bad. That's the thing. I hate being bipolar. It's awesome. Yeah. That was a great album too. Yes.

He's been so, he's so good. He is so good. He's so funny and so smart. He just is. He's a genius. Yeah, I think so. I think people will. Like the Gotea documentary, he also, like he was working so hard.

Of course, it's going to, like, like spill out. Wait, Colty. Colty? No, what's his name? Fuck. The anti-Semitic realm. Wait, that's not Colty.

That's, um, God. Oh my God. I'm so stupid. Is it? Is it not? No, no, no. Oh, God. Anti-Semitic rants.

Oh, Galliano. Oh, Galliano. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. That's what I meant. But in that dog, yeah, he talks about how he has to take pills. to wake up,

feels to go to sleep. Yeah. He's completely like, he has to be creative. Yeah. Or, well, okay. But Kanye West is a, and you go nuts anyway.

It's a black Gemini, which means he's just ordinarily, uh, more schizotipal than most people. Mm-hmm. Neurodivergent. Yeah. But specific.

specifically schizotipo, which is like why he's so talented. And it's like, yeah, like white people suffer from depression and anxiety and black people suffer from bipolar and schizophrenia. Yeah. From smoking weed. Not even, not even. Often. Like, you know when he goes back home to Chicago and there's that like crazy lady

who sees his mom through the window and he feels his home through her? And you expect him to be like, peaved but he takes her like on a tour of the house and gives her a big hug it was beautiful yeah and she's like clearly like crazy yeah but no he fucks like when she comes up and she's like i can't lie to you he's like tell me he like they're like completely like locked in you think that he's humoring her initially but he's not he's vibing with he's like yes tell me and like one thing that i've said this before but one thing that i really do love about conier is that he is like a hothead and a tyrant, but he's not a snob, which seems like a poor characterization,

because he's so, like, particular about, like, fashion and music and, like, architecture and whatever, but he'll talk to anybody. He does not care if you're rich, if you're famous, if you're, like, clouded up, like, if you're around and you're interesting, he will talk to you, which is cool. I mean, he will talk to you for, like, two and a half minutes, and then he loses interest and walks away, but. as you know many friends and friends of friends have reported i'd love to i'd love to talk to him no connie you don't understand i assume the kim kirk luyshing voice like you fucking and i'm grateful to

that you're not a slave you don't understand derrick chauvin is innocent he was wrongfully convicted of the murder of george floyd I think he would actually be amenable to my He loves getting people out of jail Yeah Or he did that was something he was on for a lot Well Kim does too

But she loves getting like actual Like violent criminal repeat offenders What does that guy's like Larry Hoover? Oh I don't know He's on vulture or on Donda There's a song with like a long What's it called Extro

yeah of his like son calling in about how his dad's in jail but should be free he talks about opening up the jails and God's going to pay her bail it's awesome I love also like it's so ironic how he's always ranting about like Jewish mind controlled like mental conditioning when the doctor documentary itself is so tame overall. A lot is on the cutting house floor. And it's also

very ironic how he loves to rant about slavery when he basically also just like holds white people hostage all the time in that architecture office where he's like when was the last time any of you felt

a feeling which was very well done and very well taken because those people don't feel anything thing they're like saying they're Scandinavian and architects are no they're worse they're Swiss oh of course yeah then they're completely checked I would say the same thing and he's and that was a very interesting scene because he's basically like insulting and berating them and they're just like eating it up and sitting there with like shitty and grins like I'm trying to understand

how you feel you have to understand that we are formalizing the forms and he's like no shut the fuck up he's like how come a building can't look like this one the bone look like this and they're like mm-hmm and then the guy takes him to dinner and I noticed the first thing I noticed about that guy or the last thing was that he was wearing a kind of like a normal like classy navy blue blazer and like a super gay like beanie that look like the tip of a condom yeah it's like oh you're a pretentious and weak faggot and he's right about you architects are awful yeah they're all horrible people they're I didn't really No, I know. I studied architecture. I know these people. They're the worst.

You don't hate architects enough. No, no. They're really the worst. People really need to know about how. And they don't even build anything. Exactly. Exactly. They don't do shit. They, they curate like rooms and museums and like put up a storefront occasionally. But they've never built anything. I mean, they make super skinny skyscrapers next to my apartment. But then on Instagram they tell you it's not their fault. that the contractors who I should be harassing and block me. God bless Goddard West. He should, well, yeah, do you remember when he was, I mean, he does this routinely, but when he posted the texts from Harley Pasternak where he was like, you better cool it or you're not even going to like remember who your kids are because we're going to send you back to zombie land, like explicitly threatened.

him to like erase his brain. Those are just like my tux with Barry wise. So familiar. So Harley Pastorneck is a Jewish personal trainer. I mean it's very like it's like designed to make you sound crazy to talk about. But yeah, he's like tons of like celebrities. hire him even though obviously you would want a black personal trainer right obviously but for some reason they all hire this Jewish guy and that's even I'm gonna look Google I don't even know what he

looks like I mean he's like he's like yeah but yeah people fall prey to these like lifestyle fitness coaches and I believe that Kanye was a victim of of pastor knacks he looks evil and horrible yeah yeah totally I think he got him hooked on the night chest who's his girlfriend oh that's Ellen page before he transitioned never mind oh she's super pretty oh he's got that like Stephen Miller like Norwood vibe he's like dark Stephen Miller mm-hmm scary no no yeah none of i don't i don't like to see an overly ripped jew that's not like a natural state for them they should be skinny fat or just regular fat they need to maintain it doesn't suit

them to be ripped no offense to adam lairer this he can get away with it it's i mean i don't really i don't like when anyone's really too ripped to be honest it's just not my my preference but it's there's something especially about a Jewish guy. Jewish man, yeah. I mean, Eli Roth does it well. Yeah, that's true. How ripped is he there? I mean, at some, he like is, at one point,

he was voted like the most fit director by like a men's health magazine. The most ripped Jew in Hollywood. Like with the bear Jew, you know, he looks hot in that movie and he's got a nice physique. The most jacked kike. Ha! goes too

Harvey Levin also creepy as fuck the TMZ guy yeah he kind of looks like pastor neck yeah well they all have that like saccharine smile well that scene where yeah he's filming him for TMZ yeah it's him and like two other like

elders of Zion ass looking guys like surrounding him and exploiting him like the doc doesn't like outright really say it. Well, I remember, yeah, when he first had his, like, I guess it must have been late 2019, 2020, I guess. Maybe 2021.

He was still, after he went on Alex Jones, and was talking about saying he loves Hitler and stuff. Yeah. I don't remember which anti-Semitic outbursts it was, but my manager at the time, and I had lunch, and I was like, you know kind of like don't you see how you know conier is a black man musician is very beholden to these like you know handlers and he was really and i'm not going to say

what race this manager was all right it was a jewish manager but he was like he's perpetuating harmful stereotypes about how jews control everything and i was like but jews do control That's like Chris Cuomo being like, oh, just because they own the controlling share of the industry doesn't mean it's like a mafia or a cabal and they're voting in terms of like some ethnic bloc or ethnic interests. They're not because they are kind of divided in their. Yes. Okay, there's right-wing Jews and left-wing Jews. Yeah, they're not a unified body. But they are more powerful than other people.

And if you're someone like Kanye, who is just beholden to these forces, obviously it seems to him that they are like you know superhumanly powerful well this is a question I have for the free speech absolutists at the free press okay uh what would have happened if uh Jimmy Kimmel had said something anti Israel and pro Palestine well no that's never going to happen but what would have happened what would your opinion have changed then just curious. It's this super hypothetical situation that's never going to come to pass.

Well, that's, yeah, that's what really, I was like, Barry doesn't have any skin in the game. Yeah. She can be kind of this like centrist except when it comes to Israel because that's her bottom line. Yes, her cause.

So she doesn't really care if the left or the right or who runs the FCC what ideology like is currently the censorious force. on media because no one's going to say anything about Israel ever except on TikTok

which now Jewish guys also going to own so yes probably that too but yeah I don't really care about Israel Palestine

but like my question is like are your principles like consistent across the board no they're not come on no but yeah Kanye don't you think for Glenn for Glenn well he's

Glenn anti-Israel anti-Zionist so yeah but I'm hypothetically I don't think there's anything anyone could be censored for that Glenn would he is like a yeah he's like by far the most consistent principled one but he has a leftist at the end of the day

like that you have to keep that in mind so he's he's past principles yeah he applies some he holds them consistently yes but he's like the only one. There's not that many. Otherwise, Kande has like a,

because he is an artistic genius and I, like, whatever, I don't, I like hate using that word too. I mean, he just is. He just is, yeah. It's like porn. You know when you see it and you feel it. Like you don't have to like quibble about it. He really has a sixth sense for like what the last remaining taboos are and how to,

you know, blow them up. and the reason he even got on the Heil Hitler stuff is obviously not because he has any attachment to Adolf Hitler and National Socialism he didn't give a shit about that but because he doesn't like He's going DeathCon 3 on the Jews Well he doesn't like the social and psychological conditioning

Yeah Because it's oppressive and stifling to him Exactly Yeah he doesn't like the delusional standard the hypocrisy and he knows it's like the way to like really piss people off and I think yeah there's like the symbolic avatar of everything that is evil and satanic in the world and in its earlier iteration yeah like the Magahat and Trump it's not that he was like a Republican in any meaningful way it was just yeah much like Trump is not really a Republican

in any meaningful way he he wasn't allowed. Yeah. So he had to do it. Yeah. Because otherwise he would be a slave. I do think that he like does like and sympathize with Trump. Oh, definitely.

Just as an individual. For sure. But I don't think it's like a, yeah, it's not a political crusade for him. Yeah, he wouldn't be like if it was J.D. Vance. I don't think he would be as like animated and supportive. Yeah. He would be like, this white boy's. crazy.

This is my hillbilly elegy right here. No, he like wouldn't understand, but he could understand someone like Trump who is also a genius. Fellow gem, much like Morrissey who had a credible threat on his life

and had to cancel some shows. I went on blue sky. How was that? I was just named searching to see if anyone had been threatening me. And someone made an Adam Friedland parody account

I assume that posts yeah death threats about me regularly congratulations good for you

but besides that looked you up to coast is clear we don't have to cancel the door but I think he did end up performing

he did it anyway he's awesome wouldn't he like to be assassinated He would love that. Islamophobia confirmed. Some fucking nice and helpful person

was like just because Anna recognizes that Ilhan Omar wears a hijab performatively doesn't mean she hates Islam. I was like, well, no, both things are True. I can recognize Ilhan Omar as lorping and doing Islamic race play, but I don't really love Islam that much. I don't really hate anything, but Islam, not my fave. I'll put that out there. Sorry, Muslims. I love some of you individually, but. Yeah, I mean. Not my favorite religion as far as religions go. Yeah, pretty. Christianity's kind of at the top, right? It's sort of the best one.

it makes sense yeah um i some like when mattie and betsy and i went to london to show scary um we were hanging it with some like british zoomers so there was a muslin there obviously yeah and he was really sweet he actually yeah um was super nice but he was saying how he thought Christianity was for losers. What? Because it's obviously, because Muslim, you know, because Islam is, uh, Christians aren't living 13 to home and fucking they cousin. What do you talk?

In some Christian communities, I guess. But it's not like a widespread normalized thing. Well, he said if you were going to be a religion, you should be either the oldest one, Judaism. Okay. Which erroneous. Okay. Already because it's not like they're practicing the Judaism that they practiced before

Jesus. It's not old temple Judaism. It's a new thing. And then he was like, so you should either be that one or like the newest one, which is Islam. I get that. That's cute. That he, yeah. It is. That's very cute. It's the new. It's the most advanced Abrahamic religion or something. I like that he brought us a cheeky secular interpretation to. I mean, he obviously was not a practicing. Yeah, no. He's like hanging out of some New York. like e-girl horrors at like a movie for fear please he's like excited to be around pussy not even he was he seemed to be he was very restrained in an admirable way I thought his friends were kind of his mates were

his mates the blokes um but yeah I don't I mean obviously I don't fuck with I've never read the Quran or anything I haven't really done. That doesn't even matter. It's like obviously I don't I don't understand Christian or you come from a Christian heritage like why wouldn't you be like it's skeptical of Islam and Judaism. I said that weird Judaism. Like why wouldn't that be a normal reaction? Mm-hmm. Of course. But you aren't Christian and don't like Islam. either. Well, I'm mostly, technically, like, I guess my heritage would be mostly Christian

Orthodox. It's just, you know, a secular post-Soviet person. Yeah, yeah. But you think you still have Judeo-Christian values. Yeah. Which are different. Yeah. Fundamentally from Islamic values.

Are they, that's a good question, actually. Well, in our globalized, kind of. I mean, there's some similarities. but I don't know I don't think Islam's are huge on mercy yeah maybe not like who

they think Muhammad absolved them of sins or I mean yeah I don't I don't I actually don't know about their like I don't know what they've actually Sin physiognomy or whatever hmm

maybe I'll go in Wikipedia later and research Islam yeah maybe I'll radicalize myself well I know they don't allow gambling which

seems stupid yes shouldn't it be up to God if you win or lose I know that they you know will allow up to four wives which seems

cool and hot at first but they have to be at least nine years old yeah It seems retarded. It's like, why would you want four women long housing you? Well, I mean, they really talk about patriarchy.

They think they're a patriarchy. But at the end of the day, four wives, they outnumber you. It's like the Kardashians. They'll ruin your life. No, they don't even see them because they're too busy doing bachabas. The wives, they don't even take their burqa off. Yeah. They got the adolescent boy harem.

That's true, yeah. I think, yeah, that's, I mean, that's real patriarchy is when you can't drive a car, not because you don't want to, because they won't let you. You know how sometimes, like, nice American couples will try to adopt, like, an orphan from, like, Ukraine or Belarus, and it's, like, a 27-year-old scammer who's, like, medically short, I'm going to go to Afghanistan and pretend to be a 17-year-old boy. to have anal sex with elderly men

it's just crazy enough to work in Kanda Har I know this plan you patched up is so intriguing I'm gonna be like Lord Miles oh no yeah I don't want to go over there

I had a layover and cutter didn't love it didn't even you know The Arab airplane, very nice. Obviously, they've got luxury nailed down, but it's not for me. No. It's too different. It's scary.

Sorry. It's not my... What do you find more abhorrent Islam or Hinduism? Oh, God. Fuck. That's a good question. Christian. Probably Islam.

Being Hindu seems more retarded. Even though I like, I like, well, Muslims are like more varied. And I like certain Muslim groups a lot. Like the Levantine peoples are generally like pretty chill and attractive. You know who the best people are in the Middle East? it's like Christian Arabs. They're so chill. Oh, yeah.

And that's why literally they're like such a minority because they just keep getting eradicated. Yeah. Melkites. Yeah. Coptics are cool. Egyptian, like Coptic Orthodox Christians. Let me see if I have any other.

Do you think being Hindu is worse than being Muslim? Hard and worse. I don't know. But more like, like, what? I'm like, huh, that's, you think, like, polytheistic fucking scale, like, that's, you think, what is Hinduism? They think there's lots of gods. Yeah. And they believe in reincarnation.

Yeah. And they think cows are sacred. Uh-huh. That seems fine. It's like, um, seem, and they're vegetarian? Not really. Sometimes. I don't know.

I just, every time I see, like, some Hindu god, I'm like, that is messed up. That is none of my business. Not our fight, as Angoulter says. She has like really big tities and is like holding a bunch of severed guys' heads. It just seems, yeah, maybe it's not, it's my comfort level. Wait, what did Anne Coulter say? It was like a while back when I forget who it wasn't, was Nikki Haley, the other one that was kind of Hindu. It was like her and Vivek where I guess it was maybe they were doing.

a primary debate right it was a while ago and she said vivac and haley she said there's just some hindu business it's not our it's not our fight i mean okay like i'll i'm a say i think like being hindus incidental to being indian mm-hmm that's kind of the real problem yeah it's unclear how like devout you know indians are they don't seem they don't seem like religious zealots no but I don't think Hinduism Hindotva in India which but that seems like a

more of a nationalist ethnic movement yeah yeah that's who doxed me I kept calling me on the phone was the Hindu nationalist and they definitely didn't seem like they feared God gods whatever

yeah it just seems more like erroneous on its face than the Abrahamic religions so what are they like they can't say oh my God because they're polytheistic so they're like oh my gods oh my bobs

they say oh my bobs in Virginia Donald Trump just revoked my H-1B visa oh my gods um my bobs right so what's happening with the h1b's trump's he issued a it wasn't even in order it was like a maybe kind of nothing yeah is that how is that actually how i'm like i buy the

like i eat the shit off like hook line and sinkerick ooh the h1b is repealed no yeah i'm like on Adderall, like, being like, how does the FCC actually work? I'm like, well, people aren't understanding is that next star is going to merge with tag law. And then that's going to be bad news. Yeah, well, was it an executive order or some kind of, no, unclear legislation? I don't know, we're too retarded. But, okay, there's some, should we Google this?

You're not going to get an answer. That's the thing. There's so much misinformation out there. You'll just get in the weeds. I think they're doing it. Did the free press say anything? That's where I get all my news from. I only read the free press.

Okay, so the H1B will carry a 100K annual fee now. It will raise the base salary from 60K to 150K. It ends the lottery system, which is flooded with fraudulent applicants. But is it happening? Or is this? dozens of duplicate applications. The sponsor absorbs the annual fee, which makes it unsustainable for firms to apply for it

unless you're talking at like really high wage, high productivity. Someone's really worth it. Yeah, jobs. I've also heard people say that any H-1Bs who are currently not in the country can't come back or will be subject to the annual fee, but I don't think that's true. But is this even happening?

That's what I want to know. I mean, I think they're moving to make it happen, right? I don't know if it will It wasn't in the big beautiful bill No I think it's like a new thing Okay But it's hard to make things happen That was why he did the big beautiful bill

It was so that he could make You know Some things happen What happens if I Google H1B Trump Just like went to my Russian keyboard I can't read because it's retarded H-1B, Trump

News I've only been going It's a new visa fee It's an order Yeah, surprise order from the Trump administration That is imposing a new $100,000 fee on some visas Set off a day of frantic travel

As workers' companies and foreign government scramble to respond to Washington's latest immigration crackdown. So I guess it's an order and it's in effect, which is cool. India will be hardest hit 74% of H-1Bs go to them. China's like a distant second. There was this tech guy called Hanigurgis, who sounds like a Christian Arab, tweeting about how you would expect them to crush global programming contests, but they're actually ranked 60, not top 10, not top 50, but 60. and something called the International Collegiate Programming Contest

ICPC which is a highly prestigious programming competition for college students Russia and Japan are number one and two and then three Chinese colleges are number three through five So basically Indians suck at coding and it's fake news They're just like cheap ball flavor Yeah, I mean I don't know what

that coding needs to be done. Yeah. Once they get the website up. But they're not like genius maverick programmers. No. I don't think they're just grunts. Right. I mean, there's probably some, like with chess or the spelling bee, you know, they're like.

But yeah, 70% that's a lot. That's a lot. Well, that's a positive development. I guess. Yeah. We'll see. It's nice, yeah. I don't have, like, ripple effects that are unforeseen.

I don't know. I feel a little blackpilled. Yeah, I mean... I feel like late nights just really not going to exist anymore. I see a lot of people on the right, like Jack Posobiac or, like, Lomas, or Stephen Miller giving these impassioned statements and saying, like, oh, we're winning, and it's only getting worse for you. guys.

Did you see Gavin McGinnis? No, but I get what they're doing. They're like speaking to their base and I don't want to like be inconvenient and counter signal but like I'm a fundamentally cautious and superstitious person and it's like Kanye says, I don't think you should put things into the universe if they're not. I mean, I guess you can put like success and victory into the universe. Well, yeah, they're manifesting triumphs. sort of, but in a very vengeful, kind of like monkey paw cursed way that I think is not going to, actually, it's not really serving anybody.

But I don't think that you should like, I guess, gloat or brag until it's a done deal and it's in the bag because this scares me a lot. And like, yeah, it's, I think I said this on the last one when people are like yelling at me about how now that the right is in. I have no I can just shut the fuck up and like pack up pack it in go home like it will take years if not decades to undo the institutional dominance of the left so like it's not a like it's not a done deal by any means just because the Trump is in power now doesn't mean anything I mean it's a positive turn the thing is it's we're not going to undo the thing institutional dominance, we're going to just undo the institutions like college and late night television, but they just won't exist anymore because they're already like on the decline.

They're already obsolete due to other extra political forces. So we're really just like expediting their collapse, but we're not going to like what actually winning would look like. is or to the you know to people who to these people is elusive to me like i don't they're they're going to make new institutions yeah that would be the idea but they don't have taste none of these people have any the charlie kirk memorial was disgusting but then you have to ask yourself like what what will prevent those institutions from being captured and corrupted from within too like you really do have to ask yourself that question i'm not

being like, I'm not playing devil's advocate. I'm not doing a both sides thing. I prefer, I like far prefer the right to the left overall, uh, in the sense that like, uh, their imperatives, maybe not their impulses, but their imperatives are much more like normal and not pathological. Like the left, the left just wants to like, again, like normalize pathology and pathologize normalcy. Like everything about them is like morally inverted. Their, their aims, their goals are like vision for society their view of children who are the future and the right is a little bit more like normal on this count they've got other deficiencies they have no taste they're like a lot of their instincts are bad and it's I don't I can't even really I mean maybe to like the left

but I just miss liberal I want liberals like Donald Trump take take political factions or political sides out of it. What makes you think that your man-made a neo-institution will not suffer the same fate as all institutions throughout time and history?

I mean, I guess what gives you such incremental gains? Outsized confidence. I'm not being catty or bitchy. I would really like to have this question answered. I mean, what makes them think it's going to be any good?

That's my, I just, what makes what? That their new institutions will even be any good. Yes, yeah. I don't think they have, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, all of these things are like, very, like, difficult and next impossible to get off the ground in the first place and if you can manage that then you have to like

deal with the day to day like operations I mean Elon Musk is probably the most effective like actor yeah yeah he did ultimately

like in net I guess do us a solid because he bought Twitter and then did the USAID stuff but it had obviously like very negative side effects but you were saying he's the most effective like he's able to you know he can make something new

he has shown that he can do that but um it's not going to be good it's going to be slop it's going to be a fucking shitty ass Tesla that's some Indian guys driving you in I just, I want to make America great again. I don't just want these like symbolic cracker barrel ass like culture war wins that perpetuate this discourse that is starting to feel really like gross and bad. Yeah, no, it really does feel like Lenin's tomb. It's like stifling and suffocating. but maybe I'm just moody because of the eclipse or something I don't know

maybe I'll get more of it like and also like what is the ultimate aim the end goal I mean it's probably to get nice young white middle class people above replacement like if you want to break it down to like a bear and cruel material terms but so many things have to happen for that yeah for that to even that and nothing I feel like is actually happening that is helping that like Jimmy people getting canceled is not going to help people like be able to forge a meaningful relationship where they can procreate and get their life in order because everyone's broke

yeah because they medical bills are filing up I mean I mean would you recommend the Kanye West

documentary um that's a good question would you yeah I think it's where I don't think it's like you know

that good it doesn't have it wraps up kind of hastily and then it has Kanye like some audio of

talking about how if the director doesn't have a through line then there won't be but there isn't really a through line no it's just a random jumble of but coney's worth seeing i mean they didn't get the jewish doctor clip which i love or yeah they missed there's a lot of missed opportunities but i understand they were probably like conier clearly had final cut yeah but now it's not the time to back down you have to let it all hang out but i think like probably someone like Harley Pasternak Yeah Like has NDA

Like there's things that they like You know Get sued into the ground for Bianca for whatever reason is absent Yeah Because either she or Kanye Didn't want to be in the movie For whatever reason

Yeah I really enjoyed the footage of him Like When he was like young and thin and handsome And like He's kind of a well Beckian sin eater Like he started to look Progressively like worse And more

bloated because he's like mentally ill and under a lot of emotional strain and also just getting older. A black don't crack like that usually unless there's something wrong. But when he was young, he was really just like so handsome. Though he did look Indian. But he had very like regular symmetrical features. Well, I find Indians handsome, you know, in the not like, obviously there's so many of them

that a lot of them aren't going to be handsome but in the you know yeah but when they are handsome they have great hair yeah nice white teeth nice prominent whites

of the eyes that yeah like obviously like all his like church concerts prison concerts church inspired hillside concerts are beautiful like when he has

like black people dressed in like neo-biblical garb. It just like, it looks amazing. Fantastic. One of the best. And, you know, I'm sure he's like, he hires people to help him. Well, he's a good producer. Make it happen.

But he's like his, that's his ideation. His genius is in production. Yeah. And direct and creative direction. So he's able to like use people. It's like the hoarding and dispersing of ideas. Mm-hmm. And he's able to, like, utilize people really effectively, which is its own kind of genius.

And then cruelly discard them when they, uh, no longer have utility. Because he's bored of them. I mean, it's true. But that's like, yeah. Do you guys think Hitler was any different? Definitely. There was probably, like, really needy and weird. Eva, you must stay with me in my bunker.

I will kill myself Bad visual artist Yeah true And I'm not afraid to say it Would I recommend the dog? Yeah I guess like when it's streaming I really do hate the experience Of going to the movie theater

I know you're part of the reason for the decline of Yeah, I hate it, I hate it. It's so awful and like, well, it's so expensive. Yeah. So I went to a matinee and it was very reasonably priced. But even your idea of what reason, like it should cost. Yeah, like how much would you say? Yeah. It'd be not. It's soft. It was 16, but usually it's like 21. Yeah. And then you get a drink. Yeah. It's another $16. Yeah, it's $11 for a Diet Coke. Come on. And $11 for a small popcorn. and my husband likes to eat sliders at the movie later and those are not cheap they're not cheap yeah it's like it is prohibitively expensive and um okay i like i said i got there at 215 show started at 245 like show time was 215 show started at 245 oh yeah no now they also leave the lights on during the previews which they didn't use to do so everything feels like a shitty like add pre previews they used to turn the lights off the previews come on the matter

magic of the movies. You're like, oh, let's go. Like, everything looks unsurious and bad. It's like for play. You're getting into the mood. Yeah. But nothing looks good because the lights are like on until the movie starts 30 minutes after. Then you just like get assaulted with like annoying, increasingly Soviet seeming previews. Uh, like that horrible new PTA film starring Leo DiCaprio and Tiana Taylor where they're like an interracial couple and that's supposed to be believable. I mean, it might be like, like, the thing is everything looks bad because they don't turn the lights off so everything feels it doesn't have the gravitas the way a preview used to and so you can't even really tell what's what it's

it's really like disrespectful filmmakers um but i still like i like going to the movies because it's something to do and you have like an immersive you don't go on your phone or now that i use Oh, I'd be going on my phone. I do. I literally like, you're like scrolling. Like originally like to take notes, but then as I got deeper into the documentary,

I was like, oh, wait, this isn't one of those things. It's not like an Enron doc where you need to take copious notes. And also taking notes is gay, even though I'm like a teacher's pet female. I'm like, oh.

I've scrawled. I wrote in my notebook in the dark. Just like moments that it seems, you know. But yeah, it was like, is really. horrible and antisocial when you were like whip out. I mean I had it lower to like

the lowest brightness obviously but still. And a matinee there probably weren't that many people then. No. There was there was one like really hip, cool looking black guy who was I'm assuming like a huge Kanye fan. Otherwise

why would he go? And I was like thinking like I wonder what like your experience is watching this documentary as like a black man. You're like sitting there nodding along like so true king yes this makes sense like when the crazy lady is accosting him and she's like I see your mama through the window you're like yes I mean I kind of was like I you know

I think Kanye so endearing yeah and if you're a fan you are on his side yeah no true true so you are like yeah he is Kim slave shit he's right yeah yeah he's so cute and retarded where he's like analogizing like chattel slavery to like contemporary like consumer neoliberal slavery. Mm-hmm.

I guess. I got it. I got it. You're a slave to the internet and corporations instead of to a white master. And they call it the master. He doesn't own his master.

His master. I know, I know. I love how like, um, mm-hmm. Black people will make, um, tell the insights that you have when you're like in high school and high as fucks sound like profound and philosophical. Divine simplicity.

Your life is therapy. Therapy is your life. You have to enter the ether. Like what the fuck are you guys? Gassing you up about your. mental health documentary Chris Rocks enabling you at every turn

telling me you were like Shinato Connor yeah that was Chris Rock is clearly like a shifty he seems self-serving opportunist

totally I bet after he told Kanye he wanted to hear he went some Michael Chey and said it's true so fucked up man what Kanye did he probably went up to

he went to his Jewish friends like Gina Gershon and Debbie Mazar and was like yo what Kanye's saying about the Jews that ain't right he's perpetuating harmful stereotypes

about how Jews manage his whole life um well I mean we did two hours yeah we can look at clock out. Yeah.

Yeah. Another job well done. I'm jealous of Kanye. I wish I was bipolar. Well. Don't you ever wish you could just go off the deep end? I mean, I've had not,

you know, well, not, you know. So cool to just. I'm not bipolar. No, I don't. I'm just a milder. I have a milder condition.

But I've had problems with my medication. Sure. So relatable. Okay, well, we'll see you and how to help. Thank you.