Red Scare - Locker Groom Talk

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

The ladies discuss groomer discourse 2.0, Elon Musk's Twitter moves, and more.

I Did you wake up and it's time to do the podcast again No, this is a really red scar after dark. Yeah, I mean it's always after dark, but it's quite late I guess yeah, this is probably the latest that we've podcasted in a while at least yeah I hear some other people do their podcasts like in the early hours in the am yeah It's like I mean we got a lot of stuff going on and yeah, that'd be interesting. I guess we could it's like it's It's 1045. Yeah, we're so old Like this time to go to sleep on an average night. Mm-hmm if I'm not if you're not wiling out. Yeah

Like one okay midnight one, okay Because I've been well, I've been going to acting class, right? So I have to get up kind of early and Charge so you know my schedule really it's packed It's due to my devotion to many different kinds of truth. Yeah on the stage and you know in the kingdom of heaven What time do you usually go to sleep? Um, that's a good question. Well for a while. I was going to sleep at like 1045 And I would like get into bed and try to read and just like conk out, but now I probably go to sleep also I'm Delusional because I think I go to sleep so early, but I probably really go to sleep around midnight or one. Yeah, I like it takes me a while

I think I'm gonna have a thyroid imbalance. We have thyroid imbalances. Um, and I have a PCOS. Mm-hmm Keeps me up Yeah, and everything going on at the Vatican, you know, yeah, what's what's No Did that consecration ever go down? Yeah. Oh it didn't it didn't work. Okay, but What happened nothing happened because I actually realized we did a whole episode about that and then like promptly forgot That it was happening. Yeah, I went to church that day and prayed at noon Because I am not a set of a cantus I I still don't know and I thought it was worth a shot

So I like did pray for the consecration of Russia at church Um, but it didn't work. No, it didn't take the forest or the region Oh man, is this a paywalled one? I think so. I'm not a hundred percent sure though. Why what are you gonna say? Nothing, my dad's really mad at you. Me? Why? What did I do? He's not really mad. He's um He didn't like what you said about the neo-nazis and what did it? Oh, I know my mom was mad at me about that too Yeah, I I thought that they're nice boys. They just happened to be a little bit ideologically extremist

I forgot what did I what did I say? I didn't say all the cradians were no No, no, you just made you made a reference to like the money people would donate and go into the halls of the battalion Yeah, it's Dimitriy, right? No, it's Dimitriy's first name. Dimitriy Evgenievich Yeah, but I think he's you know really watching the news a lot. Yeah I actually feel very bad doing pissing off parents Yeah, that's the only thing that's gonna make me like uh walk my comments That's where I go

No, I really I I have a lot of respect for my elders. Mm-hmm Yeah And your mom was upset too because yeah I mean, I just don't know because I'm not watching the news I there's basically no authority that I that I trust after everything I've been through right with this pandemic personally me personally No, just I just I don't know, you know, like I have no authority to say and

War is hell and I just wanted to stop as I've been saying But apparently this looks like some Russian rappers said that people who just want peace are like just as bad as people who are pro-Putin Uh, if you're a Russian person with a platform, you like have to take a stand against Putin and against the war and Have benefit concerts and stuff. Oh, I see. I see. He's that's like a neck tattoo. I know. I don't I don't know if I would agree with that I'm your daughter This guy's a neck tattoo. Yeah, you're gonna take the word of a man with a neck tattoo over

um, no Oh, we're Mike Cernovich. I saw him talk. I was like, Mike. I was like, where are you getting these talking points from? What was he talking? What was he on about? He was saying how Uh, Ukrainians did the buka massacre. Oh, right, right. And I was like, um, How do you know? I mean, I think you high on toad, bro He's off that toad firing off Do you crane takes like he knows what's going on a white girl wasted off? He thinks he thinks it's Um, no, I know. I think I think just like my my position

On any sort of thing like this is I hadn't brought it up. No, it's okay. I don't have any I'm not gonna Say anything controversial, but I think like I always tend to try to see these things like As I mean all of the kind of humanitarian and moral concerns aside, this is really like a proxy war of two spheres of influence vying for power and dominion over That small part of the world, which isn't so small so that they can continue to exercise influence elsewhere Yeah, like that's really what it is And we can the spectacle. Yeah, and then the endless the endless

Spectacle of it. I don't think human beings were meant to Yeah, like bear witness to atrocities Right, whatever your opinion is of them. Like it's such a magnitude like at a distance. Exactly I like the thing that Zizek said, right? I think he said it in the context of the pandemic that the people who were like Uh first responders and essential workers They have less PTSD than the people who were sort of like observing it from afar and opining Uh, yeah, no, I believe that resolved. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they like had an experience

um That was like visceral and and real And not just some kind of ambient neurotic Right and in some sense out of their control versus the people who are observing it from afar who Um, can absolutely control what they choose to take in on a daily basis totally, you know to But within reason and trauma is always relative, you know I really think yeah, some people are legitimately traumatized by things that

Other people are totally fine with like Taylor Lorenz Exactly. Oh, why we didn't even talk about Taylor Lorenz Um Crying on on tv. Yeah, begging to get bullied. Yeah And then I thought she was her is in her job to write about the internet. How does she not know? I know how the internet works like the basic rule of the internet Yeah, and then I think she like Chimped out and accused msnbc of like portraying her and I saw that too. Yeah. Yeah, and therefore driving more bullying abuse

And they said my head was shaped like a cashew And my marionette lines were they said I looked non-binary Yeah They're They're into remarking on the aging What's this? Whatever. Yeah, I feel bad even talking about Taylor Lorenz my personal ukraine I know my

totally Yeah Come on them pod She should We'll give you a lesson and um Thicker skin like we were talking last time Mm-hmm Cyber bullying etiquette. Yeah, it's called taking the hybrid because the low one's too crowded

Yeah, but it's crazy that I don't know how like I should teach a shit. I should just teach a shitposting master class That Taylor Lorenz can take we should go in hillary's podcast She got to listen to it Friends of the pod peter brown and ava perlman were telling me that they've really been enjoying hillary's podcast What's it about? I think they're like they seem very fragmented because i'm sure she doesn't have You know, she's probably even busier than us So um

Apparently she did one with like I think she's that busy real talk. She's probably busy too. She's like chilling in chapaqua No, she's like breaking in this You know, uh, she's high. She's deleting. She's deleting emails all day long Trying to cover up what she didn't No, except it's not even cover up. She's just unsubscribing From ecom sites. Yeah, I mean that'll take real real I'm cosign. I have you ever sold on the real real? Yeah. Yeah, I told you I did but you had your appointment and you how'd that go? um, well, they

Told me they would come to my house and then they did it and then this guy called and he said we have to do it virtually Which I I guess I expected and I kind of was like, are you sure? Can you please come to my house? I like and then of course we had all these problems where there was like a zoom link and a google meetup link and I was in the wrong one and then You know, we just had all these issues and then He had to take screenshots of me holding up my clothes to like you had to like parade your fashion, sonna I'm like, this is another anise we draw has this is oh and he had it was on zoom and he um Was clearly just in his home, but the background was made to look like a real real location, you know

Yeah, and I was like, why are you even bothering like I can tell I can tell you're not at a a real real hq like why are we doing this? And why do you have to see my like horrible interiors? I know my abject living space Every time I've sold on the real real they've actually come to my house even in the midst of the pandemic which has its own downsides because it's always like, um You know some nice Jewish girl with sausage curls and like officially I just wanted them calming through your shit I mean, I know everything I have is

Resalable I'm doing okay. I've been doing the Mary condo technique for the advice of real real is actually I skim the book. Okay. I like it's Parts of it are in bold So it's a good one to kind of like speed read and just read the bold parts and then I kind of I kind of I read half of it. I read about how you have to throw everything away Okay, and then I'm like, I'm just going to make up my own style for how to organize it But so yeah, I've been I donated a bunch of clothes to the Catholic worker

It's like see-through daisy dresses and matching I really church these Well, I was gonna I had like I had some red scare Isis shirts in there You put them in a Catholic donation, but then I took I took them out before I went to Catholic Catholic worker But they were like in my in I did and then I was like, don't Because I told I was like I was gonna bring them. I was gonna bring it to salvation army But I'm Catholic so I was just like because I didn't even know if they took clothing

um And they do and they were like, oh, that's that's great because we don't like resell them We like clothes like homeless people on stuff in them. It's so cool when you see homeless people wearing like a Alara t-shirt online ceramics Yeah, the Catholic worker got a big drop of Alara t-shirts last week And a hat I think I put a hat in there honestly, and that's an Alara hat And that's like if yeah, if one of those bumps can figure out how to go on grailed

Mm-hmm. It's over for these homeless Um But then yeah, then I obviously had some like stuff that I basically bought off the real world that I'm just They're losing money on Yeah, the real real exactly. I am part of the real real industrial complex And they've got a monopoly on my on my mind my my finances I guess how much money I spent on the real world last year. Um, I shouldn't be $10,000 20,000 24

Jesus but Legitimately a business like the dress I wore the succession premiere was like a grand Mm-hmm, you know, and then I like did have to buy little gay outfits for Q&A's and you know, I was like I do have to wear little outfits for my vocation. Yeah This is true. I'm called to yeah wear little outfits professionally. So

So yeah, it's not that bad when you really think about it, but I was like, that's bad. Yeah That's why you retard What? You spent all your money? What is used clothes? It would shock you how little money I have. I'm not going to um Disclose disclose, but I'm shocked. Yeah tax season is you know Has shown a light on some of my uh

I know where does it all go? Yeah, I mean Yeah, my no-fap February for shopping is going really well. Mm-hmm. I have more money than ever totally Which is like not that much money, but I'm I think I'm it's I'm growing but I think you know, I really was a truly like just a new money Euro trash retard. It was like I can make an extravagant purchase Yeah, I'm going on essence and I'm going to spend $3,000, you know, I'm like and that's yeah And that's not a good that's not how money works

Proportionately that's just not wise. Yeah at all Yeah, but the real real is good because um While they do take a Big cut how much earnings? I mean, I think they take like 40% or something and then I saw the store credit was also like Because a five like five percent more. Yeah, it's like a buffalo exchange us Because if they were to give me some some real store credit, you know, I would just be like Yeah, I would they gave 35% if they for real gave me like

It's even 60% store credit. I probably would do that. Yeah, I'm gonna be on the real anyway because um As a busy young woman on the go you ain't got no time to like Do it yourself, right? You're not gonna go on ebay No, of course and you're not gonna like track on over. They sent me a tracking Sent me like a track of slip packing slip and I was like, I can't print this Yeah, even though literally we have an office with a printer and I could go over there and print it But I was like, sorry. I was like, I can't print the print it

I mean, I literally have a printer in my house and I have a meltdown every time I have to print something because I Why can't they make the printers work better? Why is it always a problem? I don't know. There's always something. I feel like that's seen in office space Yeah, yeah, I mean, I hate tech in general. Me too. My tolerance for it is I know We're self-checkout. I hate at CVS with the voice And all the different robot voices going at once it makes me feel like Legit autistic and like the screen makes me feel like and it's so depressing because inevitably

Something I don't work at CVS Fault is not my job and then you have to wait like 12 minutes for somebody to come and like put their little employee Mm-hmm, and it's just like this is how you're automating people out of existence Yeah, like completely degrading them and talking them Summoning them to I know making them. Yeah enter like a key fob code to Signal their own

They have to punch in they have to yeah respect pay respects to the machine. Yeah Yeah That's going to destroy them How's your shoplifting habit going? Um, well, it's a sin to steal you haven't yeah, so I'm not doing it And I don't need to really because then you know, I was you know, I mostly s-lifted from before Sephora From like Sephora or like

Mm-hmm. I accidentally stole some knives from bad bath and beyond What but I really because I put them in my tote bag because I had to I was by trying to buy a trash can And then buying the trash can was so like overwhelming Did you get a there was a self-checkout thing? I swear that I was a self-checkout thing and I like was so stressed out about like scanning the trash can and stuff that I just Totally forgot that I was even trying to buy knives. Yeah, right. Well, that's how that's how That's how it always goes That's kind of not a sin. I find that the richer you get

Doesn't necessarily mean the less shoplifting you do show no no no Forever like shoplifting is the way that women really express their anti-social impulses directly I mean we do it in all sorts of indirect passive-aggressive ways to this way is calling people up and getting I'm fired from their jobs or whatever Women do we doing that? Yeah. Yeah, that's one of women's favorite things to do But those are at least in the guise of like more high-minded ideals, right? Justing is at least since you're just like yeah humanitarianism. Yeah. Well, I really I my philosophy about it was like You know when I was um

a leftist Um, you know, I was like Capitalism like created these like desires in me. So like I should be allowed to like have it you know I was like it's I deserve it because the world is like Wronged me and like the not know, you know, and like it doesn't matter ultimately. It's a Sephora if I'm like Stealing all this snake oil crap that doesn't work like who literally cares Yeah, um, I do feel that way, but

Yeah, I had like political justifications for why why it was um, okay Yeah, no, I mean it's true shoplifting for me is now easier than ever because I have a baby and I can always say like Oh my god officer. I'm so sorry. I'm just so No one's even looking at you. They're not I was no one's even suspecting your shoplifting I started rereading the oeuvre of Joan diddian. Oh Interesting. Are you that book? Um, we tell ourselves stories in order to live

Uh, no what I started I'm starting with um slouching toward Bethlehem And you know like the famous intro to that book where she talks about how, um Tiny and unassuming she is so she can easily extract Sound bites from her interview subjects. People don't realize she's someone they shouldn't be talking to. Right. Yeah And I'm also so tiny and unassuming and white that people don't really notice me when I like, um Skirt through but I just like can can no longer bring myself to shoplift because I find that It's not I'm not even worried about being caught because again, I have like well, it would be so humiliating

Well, I have a good excuse and I think like I would absolutely get off the hook Like if I was like wearing the baby in the carrier, nobody wants to take no one's gonna deal with that. Yeah It's like my burqa idea. What's your burqa idea? We're wearing a burqa to shoplift because people will be too scared to look in your direction And to stop like a woman in a burqa, you know, you like really probably can do whatever you want. Yeah But I feel now like obligated to pay my way How what do you mean? Like I just can't I can't bring myself to like I was in Whole Foods buying like a

expensive ass tin of like goat milk toddler drink and I was like I could just take this and no one would notice and then I was looked over at like The security guard who's being automated out of existence. It's like no, I'm gonna be you have to participate in the economy Yeah, I feel that way too. Yeah The only time I really feel an impulse honestly is when the line is just really like it's you know Zara or something. Not that Zara has ever been a particularly easy place to steal from because they've been putting those tags in But you can rip them out because the closers are poorly sewn. I know if you don't mind

Yeah, but what do you get your criminal? Oh, and I did yeah, I had a really cute like Zara like flapper dress. Yeah, I remember the dress That had a hole. I never had a hole Because they put them in like on the seams basically. They're not geniuses over there at Zara. No, they're totally tarted Also, they put those all made by children's right and the plastic tags like the fabrics they use are so like flimsy and unsustainable that they The tag rips a hole in the thing already by virtue of like being put in those kids suck at sewing Yeah, you know brandy's got like something good going on though

Brandy's got good quality clothes and now they're selling all of them. They're okay. They kind of fall apart quickly but they are at least like I don't know it's very hard to make a Flimsy low quality t-shirt or work wear pant These are the brandy is like the daves of women some of those shirts. I love brandy's I really do it's just it's I find it so comforting, but we knew the I would never steal from there Well, you'd get apprehended by like Nigerian a bunch of Nigerian men and then the girls I just imagined

Yeah, it would feel so bad to get caught by the girls that work at brandy too, and they like You're like an adult and They're like in high school check your idea and they're like, oh you're 30 Plus it does feel good to go into brandy and spend like 300 dollars and be like, yeah, I can go I can buy anything I wanted this store Yep, and like you see like Yeah, high schoolers like, you know leading with their parents. Yeah, like negotiating their allowance

I'm like, I'm a girl boss. So I can buy anything I want And just like buying scrunchie bullshit. Yeah headband Wallet chain shirt the roasted belt anything whatever. Oh, this shirt feels soft. I feel better. I'll feel like a weird little baby in this Anyway, what's on the docket do you have a docket? I don't know like nothing's really on the docket. Um, there was something. Oh that girl that stole those fetuses Oh, yeah, shut up. I read the I actually told me that article, but I forgot It's just I saw people talking about on twitter and kind of was like intrigued and then Looked into it and yeah, it was intriguing and that the so like

I don't know how they found the fetuses in her apartment like why the police were there or what Happened to her was this so I read this story in the near times that you sent me but then I also made the horrible mistake of clicking on a very graphic late term abortion thread On twitter. Yeah, and I'm curious if those fetuses are the same fetuses as from the story I don't think so. There's just like bags of fetuses. I mean Yeah, I don't I don't know what hanging around means in this in the context of this Yeah, if you're like because I didn't see those photos. Yeah, I did and that's how I knew I was mentally ill

Because I didn't have to click on that thread. That's a warning graphic material ahead Oh, that sounds sickening dude. Um, and then I was like I'm shaking and sobbing and then I was like wait, but Literally, I was thinking about the buka thing and I was like you literally can't believe anything that's I didn't that you're seeing on the internet. So why is this any different? Where did they find these photos of these fetuses? Why does this look like somebody's apartment in a hospital? Yeah, yeah clinic So allegedly this

girl with a twitter who identified as a Atheist left she's like antifa but Pro-abortion I'm hesitant to even call her pro-life because she's doesn't believe in god, right? Um, and obviously the new york crimes is going to call her is going to refer to it as and you know in the anti-abortion Language did they name her as antifa? No, but that's her vibe. She's wearing like a bandana and she like I thought It seemed like she found the babies in like a dumpster or something It was my guess Well, then she cooked up this story that she actually saw a guy with some boxes

And she told him there were dead babies in there And then he gave her a box because she told him she was going to give them a proper burial And then they got a priest fig bruised to do mass To do a mass for the babies even though a priest should never Do that because they're unbaptized and it doesn't matter. I mean That part's weird because she's all identifies as an atheist as well And seems like she just has like a new type of mental illness that comes from being on twitter

um Like if things had come differently should just be like an autogynophile But instead she's like an antifa anti-abortion activist women can't be autogynophiles Well, sorry, I guess if you become a Um They can't no because it's like a straight male phenomenon Exclusively it doesn't just mean like attraction to ones So I think it refers only to straight males in the literature, but then again, I haven't really read the literature. Yeah, right Anna

You haven't read the literature. No I've read the wikipedia. Yeah So I haven't I haven't read I mean we read I don't know Nevermind. Hey, hey, I just want to say that I've read three books in a week and a half So I feel pretty good about myself. It brings my grand total to six books Of books you've ever read. Yeah Culture of narcissism bronze age pervert

um The karan free women free men free women free men okay Um, uh well back all all the well the well back We're at five And then you read slouching towards Bethlehem this week I just started that one. Would you read that's unread. Um, I I reread bronze age mindset And I read the Machiavellians by James Burnham

Which like again is like one of those right wing books that I read. It's a novel. No, it's um It's like a a treatise of social science. It's about political science. Is it good? Yeah, it's really good. I mean He's interesting because he's a very persuasive writer and his whole idea Very much feels intimate and near and dear to me because he calls Machiavelli an ethicist You know Machiavelli is always kind of like the prince. Yeah The baby that's what we call the baby here. Yeah, I know about Machiavelli Machiavelli, he's always kind of like criticized as like

A person who was either a sociopathic or be Empowered sociopaths through his like lessons on how to lie, cheat and steal to get to the top Um And Burnham's point which is the point that I like instinctively intuitively agree with is that he was actually much more ethical than political writers who um imagined the world As you know based on their wishes of an ideal future and worked backwards From premises that don't necessarily hold like

For example the idea that all men are fundamentally attracted to the truth or the right all men Then fundamentally want peace Like we see in reality that of course, of course that this isn't the case um And he talks a lot about kind of how that's very interesting. It's very interesting and he talks about how um kind of myths such as humanitarianism Underright horrible gross excesses and atrocities much like religion did back in its day when the monarchs ruled through divine right right

and now Those kind of equivalent political figures rule through kind of like the will of the people i the democratic process It's a very interesting book, but um the one place that i i feel like i disagree Or not i don't know and mold bugs them into monarchy mold bug is what does that mean is a big follower of Burnham, okay, so this is where he gets his like Monarchist ideas I see from from these italians for kind of a lineage of these italian political scientists who um

Try to apply the scientific method to political science, which is arguably not possible men are so Yeah, that's very artistic. It's so dumb and also like Yeah, some of them advocate for like kind of like a rule by a prince In macavelian fashion. Yeah, but well Um, yeah, but mold bugs ideas that the rule should be administered by Kind of like a technocratic elite, which you know, what could possibly go wrong? For real see thinks that Like more or less, okay

He's not a fan of democracy though the argument i think they should let it doesn't really exist right it's also kind of a defining myth yeah right and like You have that basically is clear. Yeah, you have like an oligarchy that operates Kind of rhetorically or symbolically as a democracy, which is like, you know You don't have to be like a rocket scientist to just simply perceive that without reading a book ever But I think like the thing with what the sky Burnham is that he kind of argues for like this rational scientific approach

But is also like overly negatively providentially keys horny Over This kind of very pessimistic view of the future. Mm-hmm, right, right that I find fundamentally like attractive and appealing because it it confirms my biases about the world, right? Like well, that's all kind of I don't know. I think people who are addicted to watching the news feel Helpless probably and like miserable and then they watch the news compulsively because like yeah, I reaffirm as they're They're biases for sure. Yeah, and it's very everyone's sort of doing that on some level, you know

Yeah, all of us are and I think like I very much like subscribe to the idea that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior um until it isn't And I tell what until what the seam to lab calls the black I These guys are like very horny for a very kind of mundane and dystopian vision of the future Because they're trying to kind of secure their intellectual supremacy within it in a way

Like it is a very Machiavellian thing. It's like, um also like a power struggle in the guise of like Like right kind of an intellectual effort or whatever. I know and they like I think men just they like feeling Smarter than all the other men some men to do for sure. Yeah, these type of men these types of guys like yeah And you know, we find it sort of endearing and attractive for better I know because I'm like, oh, that's so sick. Yeah, I'm like, oh That's nice. Tell me about monarchy Can the monarch be a woman?

So you're saying I could be the princess of Belarus? They should honestly I think I would do a great job Yeah, if I was the princess of Belarus, I would be you wouldn't do a worse job. Let's go. I would be I would be doing a good job I would be really Magnanimous. Mm-hmm. You would just hand out clothing that you didn't wear from the real real Let the meat cake but let them wear the real real Oh No, I love Belarusie so much

Like the country or yeah, the people you have to I feel you know, I really just am From Belarus at the end of the day and I'm proud of it. My mom said to me the Um, Belarusians are very attractive and good-natured whereas ukrainians are Stupid Or what like she my my mom's very like like all russians. She's like very racist against ukrainians though She supports them in the war But what are what are they like as opposed to Belarusians just like it's like, you know the typical polish What does she think of polish people? Yeah, that they're stupid. She thinks that they're

They're stupid and unattractive That's not true Yeah, have you guys ever seen on your rubik? Polish people for for every There's some stunning polls people they have like one really crani and I would say in general are hot hotter than the average population Well, that yeah, yeah, that was um, that was like her breakdown. Belarusians are attractive and good-natured. Ukranians are are Attractive

stupid Polish It's like that. Um, you know like east coast west coast midwest south axis word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, but for the slovak races And what about russians? Um, they're too vast. They're too vast to tell you like a more we can't reach a consensus There's like Siberia

There's whatever hozbollah is. Where's he from Dagestan? Yeah, he's from some country. I never heard of He's fasting Ramadan, can his tiny body take it? Hozbollah's going to heaven Yeah for sure Though like he's so cute. He's like an angel He like I love him. He's adorable But sometimes I'm like this is like a richard spencer or kpop ass sigh up because he's everywhere and he's

He's having a moment in your face. He went on barstool sports. Uh-huh. He went on barstool sports. Yeah. Yeah He's speaking english. It's like there's a translator. He's so cute. Oh my god. I know I can't my obsession with hozbollah makes me sound so childless I'm like I love him. I'm just like in love with this like dwarf baby man who I could also hype with I don't sexual thoughts would never enter my mind about hozbollah. He's such a pure like Being to me, but you know, but I know he's having sexual thoughts have entered his mind For sure. He's a grown-ass man who's over 18. Well, have you seen the verntroyer sex tape? No, I don't know

I wish I had a thread of late-term abortions, but I will never click on a verntroyer sex tape. It's grow. It's f'd up Does he have like a normal size? I didn't watch like it extensively. I kind of just got that. I have the camera stationary though I think and you don't really see it. It's very like Um, so that means he needs a sex tape That would be that'd be a good. Yeah, that could be a really good move. Honestly. It'd be I might tune in I might watch I might watch that. I might sway my allegiance in the whole

I feel Hannah Hannah Listen, I'm a macabre. We can't have an ethicist. I don't take sides Word. Yeah Yeah, me too. I'm a theologian. Yeah So like we're literally so retarded in a way I know I know I'm

Yeah, I read st. Joan and I've yeah Have some ideas about how my counsel's like better than yours Way babe men are to political science what women are to the religious teachings Mm-hmm Some of them are yeah Anyway No, it's funny to read this stuff because then you see what I might read that book that sounds interesting I've always been a fan of deprints. No, you'd be into it and he has another one called um

The suicide of the west which I haven't read another one called uh, james bernum and another one called Um, the managerial revolution which also sounds like it could be up our alley. Yeah, you've had. He's dead and Oh, man, the twist. I was like, sounds like we should have this guy on our podcast But um, which also sounds like hopefully doesn't have a no Seymour's um suicide francès Um, anyway, the thing is a lot of these guys be having annoying voices. Well, he's dead. So we have no way of knowing. Yeah Yeah, a lot of them do have that's the problem They can't evangelize properly and tucker has kind of an annoying voice. It's very I love I think I think his smile is so charming

But his charm is that he has such an extremely annoying voice that like you can't help but he makes me smile and laugh. Yeah He does he makes me feel the way john stewart used to make me feel when I was like You know, well, yeah 17 watching the daily show being like, haha. Yeah Take that evangelicals This jewish guy's smarter than you I know But he didn't give me that like smarmy uh, oh feeling like bill marr because like all coastal elite jews. He's fundamentally like Uh timid and self-effacing but in an arrogant way as orson well said about woody allen. So true. Yeah

Oh, would still have sacks with him For sure. I feel like he looks he's very great. I know he's I don't I someone sent me the clip of him talking about like, well, how white people are bad. And I was like, I was like, I'm not even gonna watch it. I was like, I don't need to see this. Jews have been doing this since time immemorial

and they really did it to themselves. You can't blame the gays, you can't blame women, you gotta blame the Jews for liberalism. That's actually the trinity of people. It's triple. Anna, I disagree. I think it's the Freemasons. I think people don't... I thought you were gonna say women.

I was gonna entertain it briefly, but... No, I've been feeling less misogynistic these days. I know me too. I'm kind of... We're like such friends of women. I'm kind of be thinking women might be smarter than men in a lot of ways. Well, like they definitely are emotionally

because they don't write long-winded expository treatises about how politics can be approached through the scientific method. Right, right. Or if you're the Diamond Brothers, VaticanCatholic.com, about how the Second Vatican Council is heretical. Yeah.

Can you imagine being a woman and sitting down to write a book with like airtight logical explanations that don't like add up and really like that? That totally don't make sense that are confusing, yeah. And it's just like a system of logical proof. I know, that would be sickening if a woman did that. Like it wouldn't happen.

Women have astrology really just make stuff up. Well, no, I was reading a diddy in and I was like, oh yeah, like people always comment on how precise her language is, but it actually isn't. It's totally fuzzy and hazy. She just has like a forensic kind of autistic eye for detail and picks up on stuff that like only detectives

and scientists would ordinarily pick up on, which is why she's like a good reporter. Right. But like her interpretation of those events, as she herself would admit, is totally also like feminine and cracked. Yeah, for sure. Which is cool.

That's what I like about her, yeah. She's like very interesting as a writer. Um, that's nice. You should really play it as it lays. I'm going, have you seen the movie? No. I hear it's really bad. That's what I've heard and I've, it looks good.

Okay, I should watch it because obviously I love play it as it lays because it's like actors who's tragic and fiscinny. And like guys are calling her on the phone and she's like confused. And she's like. Men are calling her ugly on the internet. Somebody should make a movie about Taylor Lorenz

but like cast a slightly hotter actress to play her. Totally. That would be so great. I would watch that movie. That's like actually made really scary about what she thinks her life is like. Like people menacing her. It's like Brie Larson in the room.

But it's like Taylor Lorenz is like mixed with being John Malkovich in her mind, armies of anons about her twisted mind. Yeah. You're actually 47 years old. She's like, no, I graduated from Swiss boarding school in 2007. It's like repulsion. Yeah.

She's so sexually frustrated. She's like. The famous scene of Isabella Johnny like an auto abortion in the Berlin subway. Oh, man. This is Taylor Lorenz on MSNBC with that NB talking to us. This is so. Getting bullied.

Sorry. We're doing actually, that wasn't even on the dog. It happened so long ago. We're proving her right. We're proving her right. I know. I know. And it's because they portrayed her poorly.

They set her up. Everyone's conspiring against her. Yeah. It's yeah. We love you Tay Tay. They hang in there girl. I know. They step right behind me, I was doing a cashew.

They talked about my asymmetrical features. They said I look like I have fetal alkyls. There's a really cute girl at church with really far apart eyes. And she's so cute. But I wonder if it's like a FAS thing. And I'm kind of like, it's kind of really cute. FAS.

It's kind of, you know, your kid does, you don't want your kid to be too smart. No, it's a burden. Can you imagine? Like I dread my kid being smarter than me because I'm like too stupid to explain like math problems and political science to him. Yeah.

He probably will be. He probably will be. He'll be promoting you all the time and making your life a living hell. Yeah. He's all horny and stuff and taking it out on you. Cause the time you took him to the Russian restaurant for his first birthday.

And he had to see all those prostitutes and criminals. Like gyrating. He was crouching on tables. And we were all there. And we were all laughing. It was a great time. How do you thought we were laughing at him and not with him? He had a great time.

Hey, we all had a bomb. Grooming. Grooming. That was kind of the big, that was the thing that we were talking about again. It keeps coming up. Well, people are saying with saying grooming. Wait, people are what?

Obsessed with saying grooming. Yeah. Like that's why it's had so many kind of like cultural surgences and been appropriated and used in all these different ways. Cause people like, just like, it feels good to say. The same groomer because it's like, how's that? And word vibe, but not, it feels like a slur,

but it's not cause you're like being someone's victim. But it's like. The history of mankind since the internet is finding like elaborate workarounds for saying these things. So now we're saying groomer to disparage. And it sounds like boomer or coomer or any of these other gas, internet centric. The hard R.

It's not a coincidence that y'all like saying the hard R all the time, the one word you're not allowed to say. Grooming used to, like, I feel like we discussed grooming many months ago, but it used to be like liberal women complaining about age gaps. And now it's conservative men. Age gaps, comedians, DMing, teenagers, you know? But it was inappropriate age gaps of older men,

younger women that like were pissing off like aging liberal women with fur babies because they felt perennially single or whatever. So they were trying to police the goings on of the most historic coupling in the history of man, which is older men with younger women. But now it's like conservative men hyperventilating about Disney employees and Democratic party members

trying to diddle your kids. Is that correct? That's what's going on. By talking about being gay in the classroom. Yes, is how it, because of all the don't say gay stuff. By the way, I also read that bill, all seven pages of it. Wow, that's another book. That's book number four.

That counts as a book. I've definitely read Books Worth. Don't Say Gay by Rick DeSantis. Yeah, I read Books Worth of esoteric pamphlets, for sure. Is Rick DeSantis a one or a zero for you? Zero. Unforged. I don't like politicians.

I don't either, but I find him like physically repulsive. But I really would because he seems like a real slam pig in the sack. He might be a one for me. I hate that I'm saying that. I know, I know what you mean, but no. I need a rape shower after saying that. No, I wouldn't.

Like if he was the last man and you were the last woman. OK, if it was up to us, then yeah, I guess it'd be pretty romantic so I could get into it. But I actually, so I've read that bill. It was in one ear out the other. I didn't retain it. It was like very vague. Yeah, it was like deliberate, like all legislation.

It was like over broad, but then too hyper specific. I don't know. What was it trying to, it was trying to ban? You can't teach any kind of gender or sex stuff in the classroom third grade and under, which honestly, that's fine. Just hits how it's already what it's like. And then above that, you can teach it,

but it has to be deemed appropriate, which I don't know. You can teach it is like, what are we talking about? Who's that guy that went on? Bill Maher? And he was talking about how men don't menstruate or whatever. Oh, David Prager? Yeah, David Prager. Prager you?

Yeah, like when people talk about like gender stuff, like that's like what I imagine people say. Yeah, like they can't tell your kids that men menstruate too until they're in fourth grade or whatever. But it's totally like a conservative fantasy of this like infiltration that's already happened that is very pedophilic, AKA Masonic in character. I don't think it's a coincidence that like freemasons

are powerful and so much of our... I still don't know what freemasons are. It's so shadowy and weird. They're like worship reason and like there's some like group of nerds that have power. And they infiltrated the Vatican. Are freemasons still a thing? They've had a lot of power historically.

Like, and probably pretty recently, I'm not like a genius. I'm not like, I'm not writing a book about it, you know? I can just see them as soft. I'm hilarious if you wrote like a kind of very rigorous and autistic, like finely laid out argument. Fuck about freemasons. Yeah, with proofs and examples about freemasonry

in the United States. Like multiple tomes. No, I mean, I understand what DeSantis is trying to do from a purely Machiavellian standpoint. Then he's well played with my friends. And he's trying to do the thing that like, I'm gonna try to not quote Christopher Lash. No, please.

As nauseam, but speaking of Hillary Clinton in her doomed podcast, he, you know, wrote that famous essay, Hillary Clinton, Child Saver, which is my favorite essay that you've read. I recommend everybody read it. And all of these kind of like outlines were already visible when he wrote it,

like in the early nineties. And it's just like very obvious that the Democratic Party appeals to kind of the individual autonomy of children and pretends to be equally suspicious of parents and the state, but is using it to expand and consolidate state power, obviously. And I think he's trying to tip the scales

back in the favor of parents, like operating under the assumption that parents are fundamentally fit and the best judge of what their children should and shouldn't have. Whether or not they have master's degrees, you know. And the don't say gay, not even these days, let's be honest. Well, and that there's a provision in this bill

that says like, you're supposed to give all sort of forms about mental health in schools to the parents to vet and they can consent or not consent to the child filling out the form and stuff like that. Or like certain stuff that you can teach or not teach, but the bill says like in the case of like, if there's a suspicion that there's abuse, abandonment or neglect, like these rules don't apply.

Then you can tell them about gender. Sacks, yeah, no, you can not make them, you don't have to like clear everything with parents that you suspect are potentially abusive or neglectful or whatever, yeah. So, I get what he's doing, like my objection though is like this gay framing, which is such bullshit and such a red herring

because gays are a safe target. Wow, that's true. Cause you know it's really about the Anbis. And it's because teaching has become such a like nobleized profession in like liberals minds, you know? It's like, and COVID hasn't been good for people's mental health, I'll say again, it's like clear as day,

y'all are more mentally ill than ever before. And like, so there's like teachers on TikTok, you know? Really not serving the image of the teacher well, you know? I see why there's low, we're in a low trust culture with teaching. Cause there's a lot of like R slurs on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like doing like gender banding. It's funny because the libs basically invented

this don't say gay framing. The bill is called like Florida bill 1557. It's not called the don't say gay bill, obviously. It's called the don't say faggot. It's called shut up faggot. And I mean, we're not gonna let these faggots talk to our kids anymore. I wish faggots were teaching my kids.

Well, no, but like, so the libs came up with this whole framing that it's supposedly like oppressing gay people and like preventing gay teachers from teaching and whatever. And like, of course, the Republicans like took the bait, hook, line and sinker as they always do and made it about like how homosexuality

is corrupting our culture. And like, you can make a case for that, like in the sense of like, you know, you can appeal to the stereotype of like homosexual pedophilia going back. Degeneracy, obviously. It's like a trope as old as time and like. But that's the point.

It's as old as time. And the gays are so emboldened now that there's many like, you know. Yeah, and you can also appeal to the idea that like gay rights and gay marriage were a slippery slope that led to the current gender war we're in. But like, in order to do that, you kind of have to look at like liberalism in general.

And the gays really are. Which the Jews as you said. And women, women. Jews and women. Who are the teachers? They're not gays primarily. They're women and they're unemployable non-binary male allies on TikTok.

And they're trying to make it, like in making this a gay issue, in framing it as a gay issue, they're literally framing gay men. Yeah. It's like, such a joke. I remember, I think my fourth grade teacher, she like left halfway through

because she was getting married to a dentist. And we were all like, ooh, we were like, did you do it in the dentist's chair? Mrs. Ba-ba-ba, like. And she was like, stop you guys. She was like gorgeous. And I was like so happy that she was. That's the biggest thing.

Getting to marry a dentist. I remember when teachers are gorgeous. Now they're all like Charmin Bear TikTokers. It's like the hot waitress index, but the. What's that? Oh, it's a. Anna, it's an economic theory that the hotter your waitresses,

the worse the economy is doing. Because usually hot chicks, like would find men to take care of them and stuff. And like, you know, there would be like surplus, kind of like access in the economy that would like support women who were just like beautiful, you know. But today those plan,

or this theory doesn't hold up because the hot girls just go on only fans and some not so hot ones too. There's just not as many hot girls because of the seed oil. The pandemic. The real pandemic is the seed oils. But yeah, this whole like kind of gay panic.

And it is, yeah. An interesting use of the word of groomer. Yeah, yeah. And don't say gay. It's all being very, it's all being very like creative with language. Yeah. As like, if it were an art project.

But no offense, it's like, I was like looking at the TL for a minute. It was just like a bunch of like right wing guys complaining about talking about their hypothetical children that these democratic Disney people will did all, or like people who have children already, but like tweet like 10 to 20 times a day. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Me personally, I like to ignore my child by going in the group chat to broadcast every opinion. Yeah. No, it's true. We've both been quieter online. And it's, because it's become a very mentally ill space. I can't stress this enough.

It's like, y'all are acting crazy on Twitter. When I look at it, I'm like, this is mental illness love. Well, I don't know about you, but I'm also more mentally ill now than ever. So I feel like a schizophrenic getting all sorts of weird signals from Twitter. So I just like prefer to stay off.

Exactly. Exactly. My Joe and Diddy in books. Exactly. I mean, my DMs look like I've said it before, a mental hospital. Mm-hmm. What are people DMing you?

I mean, I don't know. Just like, well, I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna say. What? You know, just horrible stuff. People being mean to me, or really nice to me, or just like, I don't know. I trust the people who are nice less

than I trust the people who are mean. I know. It's a weird thing to do either way. It is, yeah. But it's, yeah. Every once in a while, you get a nice thoughtful note. You're like, oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's what really keeps me going.

Yeah, and flatters my fake and gay humanitarian ideals. I'm just trying to get you guys to read James Burnham and Justin EH Smith, y'all. That's been the real agenda this whole time. No, yeah, I mean, literally, I'm such a retard. I just like read something. I'm so pressurized. Anything a man tells me, I believe, yeah.

I'm like, whoa, I'm like, yeah. Curtis Yarvin said this book was good. I literally have, people accuse me of being affiliated with Moldbug and stuff, and I was subscribed to his newsletter, but I've never read a word of anything that man. I have no idea what his idea, like I couldn't tell you if I supported him because I really have no idea what

he's even about. There's a good, I'm going to plug another article by Jacob Siegel of Tablet Magazine that actually is like the cliffs notes of all of Moldbug's ideas, which is great, yeah. OK, sure. I think I kind of have a mental on his ideas, but it's really funny because time and time again,

I just do the retard thing of reading an older book that a current thinker cites and realize they've taken almost everything from. Right. That book, which is sweet. I mean, there are no original ideas. Of course, for all, yeah. All knowledge is something we've had prior knowledge of before.

I don't know. The other thing with the grooming discourse and people, again, right wingers freaking out about how people are going to diddle your kids is like, don't platter yourself, honey. Also, they're not trying to diddle your kids. They're trying to give them HR jobs to secure their own HR jobs.

They're trying to create meritocratic nepotism. But there is people trying to diddle your kids. Well, for sure. There are literally people trying to, people get molested all the time. No, I know. And it's funny because it's like, on one hand, feels like an extremely fringe phenomenon,

but it's probably way more widespread than we think it is. But the idea that people are gunning to, like this paranoid kind of ideation that people are gunning around the corner trying to diddle your kids is also a deflection mechanism for the fact or like a defense mechanism for the fact that the reality is much more mundane, but just as bad, if not worse.

Which is the like NB ideology that they're so afraid of is already so like permeating because it's liberalism. Yeah, but not even that. Just the NB ideology is also like doubling down on something that's existed for a while now, which is like literally like the decline of Western civilization. It's like, okay, two facts, two realities,

like American population not replenishing itself and American education has fallen behind. And I mean, I got a Facebook note, I literally got an email today from Facebook. I never got on Facebook and it was like, you're my high school AP government teacher posted something and I was like, I had like a crush, I remember I had a crush on him

because he kind of gave me, had Jon Stewart vibes where he was like kind of knew about politics and like had gray hair and cyber. But yeah, I was like, aha, like a beard. He seems self-destructive, I could fix him. No, he was like a feminine, he was like, his wife was like a high power lawyer and he was like, I'm a feminist.

And he was like a talk teacher. And he, and I was like, let's see, I like logged into, I had to like type my email and like three times to even log into Facebook. Why the F would I ever go on that website? And he posted like an update that was like, worse than like one of those tweets where someone makes up a conversation

because it was really long. And it was about him having a whole fake conversation about how someone was like, what do you do? And he said he was a government teacher and they were like, I'm surprised that AP government still exists. I mean, I bet he just teaches, I bet it does. But it's like taught by guys who make up conversations to post about on Facebook,

about how maligned they are as liberals. He literally like, he was like some woman apparently said to him, like, you're a liberal and like, you're like, you know, and he was like, that's right, I am a liberal. Like, like this is such a crazy thing to post on Facebook. I don't want, and that's the person I learned everything about the government from.

But he wasn't as great like in 2008 or whatever. Yeah. He was like, I remember there being like young Republicans in my high school, they were like a fringe organization, but they were like, we took them seriously. Yeah. You know, we like, we're having political discourse. Like JSA.

What's JSA? I don't remember what the acronym, I'm gonna Google it, but it was like a debate club thing where. Cause I went to an art school. Oh, right. The junior state of America was created by and for people interested in what happens around them from politics to how government works.

I think that's probably what it was, but it was like a debate club where like neocons would face off with Marxists, except we were all like 14. Yeah. That sounds, that sounds fun. It was fun. Yeah.

I remember like the seeds of my misogyny and pygmyism were sewn. That sounds like an intense experience for sure. Yeah. Even though I was repulsed by and skeptical of the like young men who participated in these clubs, I was also impressed with their rhetorical faculties

and self publishing. I wanted to understand their ideas. I am passionate about self publishing, honestly. I love a weird book. I love just a book, a weird book that someone wrote. I know. I know, but that's why I'm such an adherent of Bronze Age mindset, which is a.

I should really read it. I haven't. I haven't. Disgusting and awful and racist book that you should never read. I'm doing the Straussian thing, but. Well, that that guy won't come on our podcast because he's like anonymous or whatever. No, he probably would, but I have an axe to grind with him

because he wants he wants to accuse me on Twitter of like. Trying to pass off Christopher Lash's ideas as my own. I was like, no, I constantly attribute everything to my intellectual heroes because I'm like dumb enough and sincere enough to do it. Like, I've never. You're always. Yeah, I've never like tried to like.

We literally sell t-shirts that look like that. And I was very offended by that because I was like, how could you do me like that? I've been like the number one non-anon, like a normie libtard supporter of your book. I'm trying to get normal girls in Bushwick. To read Bronze Age minds. Yeah, and like Lowry side to read your book.

You've been an advocate for this book for a long time. Yeah, but I'm still an advocate. I'll, I'll, you should read it. I'll give, I'll buy it. Yeah. You can have my copy. Okay, I'll take, I'll read it. Yeah.

I've read it multiple times. Do you annotate your books? Very sociopathically underline in a really like rigid straight line passages that I find interesting. And sometimes right now it's in the margins. Do you? Yeah, a lot.

I like, I like to highlight portions and I put. Highlighting is a female trait. One of these creepy little books I read was by a man named St. Alphonsus who wrote like a handbook for nuns. That I like really took to heart was so long. And I like was writing, like highlighting and then putting like post-it note tabs.

Yeah, like the little skinny ones. Yeah, like the little skinny ones. So I was like, this part's fire. Yeah. When he talks about despair, like this is the part you really want to like come back to for your research. Yeah.

Wait, I had some like, I forgot what I was going to say. I had some other comment about this grooming situation. Oh, yeah. No, just like, pegging off of the fact that we're no longer replenishing in our education. The decline of Western civilization.

Yeah, I feel like the ballroom. Yeah, like, I feel like the grooming thing is like, people, you can feel like when right-wing guys are like freaking out online that they have like a sense of guilt over not being able to like forestall this decline. Yeah, yeah. And they feel like a sense of,

they have like a sense of like powerlessness and impotence. And I feel like the grooming, like the actual did-link kids thing is just like, it's like a metaphor for like deeper, more kind of ambient anxieties about the future. Because what is the future if not our children, but nobody knows how to secure the future. I mean, look at the way people, myself included,

wasn't molested by the way, but people got obsessed with Jeffrey Epstein and stuff. It's like, people are obsessed with this like, because people feel so psychically molested by liberalism. That's so true. Yeah. Well, yeah, and like, I felt vindicated by this latest rumor discourse

that I never had the urge to throw in my lot with conservatism because these guys have proven themselves to be even bigger leftists than the leftists. So they're tired ass, like post Epstein, kitty did-link conspiracy theories, they're like into conspiracy theories in a way that's like fundamentally unproductive and paranoid. Yeah, it's very like nihilistic actually.

Yeah. And it's like, it's not a fruitful way. Completely. Kids are being diddled, it happens. It's like staying on humanity, but like, that's not really what you're concerned about when you like chimp out on the internet.

I think if we were less permissive as a culture, there would be less kid diddling. Well, yeah. You said that in a very cute way, kid diddling. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. I'm not saying it should be like, yeah, obviously like hierarchies, like in the Catholic church, for example,

give, like are able to sort of hide this sort of thing. And like, you know. You should read this book because he talks about the Catholic church as like a seat of power. Well, it is. And his like, he has this like great line about how, it's like everything that he says is very basic. Yeah.

I could have written this book. No, I've actually like a millennial female with a shopping addiction. It's like too stupid to gather her thoughts. But he talks about how like the Catholic church does not act rationally in its spiritual beliefs, but acts rationally as like a political actor in consolidating its like tremendous like power

and influence. Yeah. I mean, that's interesting. I saw a bunch of like trad cats freaking out about the groomer thing in it. And I was like, look at your own chart. Like, what are you talking about? Aren't they all homeschooling their kids anyway?

They must be. They're in such like insulated communities. It feels like like legitimate like trad. Trad cats. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, how many of them really have kids too? Like, it's literally a bunch of people

who don't have kids complaining about kiddie diddling. I know, I know. You have no dog in the fight. You're not that humanitarian and honorable that you constantly think about other people's dittles because you are your total pedophile. Yeah. You should kind of just leave this one. Clicking on late term abortion threads

because you're a pedophile. I'm sorry. Oh no, Anna. You shouldn't have looked at that, that thread. No, it fucked me up. And I realized like really seriously in that moment. Oh, I really like to torture myself. Yeah. And that's also like

Well, that's called mortification. That's a normal part of being a Catholic. We all do shit like that, like expose ourselves to things that like... That's why I want to go see Morrissey in Vegas. I know he's going to do that. We should go. We have to. We should do a pod.

We have to. From the show. We have to. Well, like all like animal cruelty videos. Well, you get immediately asked to stop podcasting and just comply timidly. He seems like the type of guy who would be like... Oh, I would love Morrissey, please. He would be my number one guest.

On the pod. On the pod. I don't know if I could even... Do you think we could ever get him? No, he has no reason. We're so beneath him. I think if we appealed to his Islamophobia. We were Islamophobes. Transphobes.

That he thinks the Chinese are like automatons or whatever. Sinophobia. We just have to... Irish blood, English heart. Yeah. Narcissists. We have so much to talk to Morrissey about actually. Russell Brand. Johnny Maher. Veganism and animal rights.

Like wouldn't you love to ask Morrissey what he thinks about seed oils? He must know about seed oils, of course. There's no way. It's crazy. I think he's into chips. We have to tell him. About seed oils.

About seed oils. I mean, he looks great. He does. We gotta go see him. We gotta go see him. We gotta just try. He's my ultimate one on the binary, which is sad because he'll never have me

for obvious reasons. Yeah. Because he's celibate. He's asexual. He's a groomer. I love his underbite. I have that Morrissey poster in my room. I literally look at Morrissey every day.

I think about him every day. I know. He's a... Do you love Morrissey more than Lana? Yeah. I do too, yeah. But I love Lana a lot too. No, I do too.

But she's like the female millennial Morrissey. She is, yeah. She really is. And she's growing as an artist at an amazing rate, honestly. But at the end of the day, Morrissey, though. Morrissey wins out.

Yeah, when he has the Smiths. We've thrown the Smiths to an easy. I'm just thinking solo career, but with the Smiths, easy. I think only of the... I mean, I love the Smiths, but in appraising Morrissey, I only think solo career.

Yeah. It's true. That's applying Machiavellian political science, logic and reason, to... And that's how we get the princess to rule. Yeah. What were you just talking about?

I have no idea. Grooming. There was something else on the docker. Oh, Elon Musk. Oh yeah, Elon Musk. I'm sorry. I just heard the... Elon Musk bought,

he bought like six. He bought the model. 9% of Twitter's... 9.3% of Twitter. He owns Twitter. 9.2%. Okay, and he's acting out. And he's like a member of the board,

and he's been doing a lot of polls on Twitter. Okay. Like, such as, should we remove the W from the order of 4,000? I wonder if kind of porn he's watching. Actually, I don't. Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. I don't want to know.

No, you're right. Something's so weird. It's probably so weird to be him. He should bring Trump back. I know, but... Obviously. No, I know, but he... I would be like, I would be grateful.

And I would, because I have very low esteem of Elon Musk, because I just think he's like, soulless and kind of a sloth, you know? Like, he's not particularly virtuous to me in any way. No, he's... But if he brought Trump back, he would be,

I would kind of be like, that was cool of Elon to do when he... He would consider having a child with him if he brought Trump back. Because I think he's really into having children with as many women as possible. Okay. Gross, post-humanist, another...

That's probably another thing with Masonic roots, honestly. Yeah, but he's like nine kids, which is crazy. He just... He's like a black man. He's just like, not. He has nine kids? Yeah. He can afford it.

Yeah. No, I know. It's cool that he just like nuts and doesn't look back. Yeah, and easily. I kind of... I have a newfound appreciation for Elon Musk. Okay, based on... I mean, I'm physically repulsed by him and hate everything he stands for, but...

I am physically repulsed by him. I really am. I don't even really... Well, no, you know why, because he looks very Russian. In a way, he does. He's like... Maybe that's why.

A man with like... Oh, yeah. Cute feminine features and overly pouty lips. Which is like hot and a woman, but disgusting and a man. He's like Leo DiCaprio, but... Yeah. No, he's gross and annoying. You sound like you might really like him.

Yeah. No, no, I don't. But I have a newfound appreciation for him because I like that he's consistent in his retarded troll sense of humor. Yeah, totally. And that he puts himself out there. And I have to say, to Elon's credit...

That's so sweet of you. That's actually very charitable. That's nice. I should... Yeah. Regard him more humanely than... We have to see... We have to judge people by their peace and their values.

As my mom always says, ripping off... I don't know who she stole this from. That's so true though, yeah. No, it's true. It's so true. Yeah. It's easy for us who can afford to buy and sell things on the real, real, but...

We're the real, real class. Yeah, we are, yeah. But he literally just like does have a sense of humor and has like... He does. It's not for... I don't find it particularly funny. But he has it, which is more than you can say for...

I know. And he has an artistic impulse. Yeah, but he's... What is his sign? That's a good question. Probably an Aquarius. I know Maddie likes him. Shout out to Maddie.

Maddie likes Elon Musk. She doesn't. She likes that he's like a slob. She has that kind of... Wait, do I hear... Is Eli coming? No. Eli?

Yeah. What do you think about Elon Musk? What do you think about Eli Musk? It's June 28th, so he's... What do I think about him? Yeah. He's a Leo. Yes, your honest opinion is on Elon Musk.

Oh, no, he's a cancer? Cancer's not good. Is that an interesting phrase? He says he's kind of interesting, right? Oh, sorry, sorry. Sorry, Eli. We woke Eli up. Yelling about Elon Musk, sorry.

I think he's a cancer. June 28th. June 28th. Is cancer, I believe? Yeah, it's like cancer Leo. That's not good. Cancer's my least favorite sign. Easily, sorry.

Ooh, I know I'm gonna get heat for that one, but... Wait, why is it your least favorite sign? I like male cancers. I don't know many female cancers. Every time I've had like kind of some negative... Not every time, but I don't know. I've had a lot of negativity with cancers in my life. Wait, really?

Yeah. Are cancer, they're a water sign. They're a water sign, so you'd think, like me and Scorpio's really be vibing, you know? But cancer is just not so much. Yeah. And I don't have many female toruses in my life, but I always respect them because I'm like, that's nice.

They're scary. I don't know. They seem grounded in a way that I'm really... I have almost no earth in my chart, so that's why I'm just like basically none. That's why I'm such a like an airhead. I'm kind of like, don't... I'm like all earth.

Well, we're perfectly balanced in the Zodiac and stuff. And people say CuspStone. And people say CuspStone. Michael Tracy. And I'm like that guy that got hit by the train, the... Wait, who got hit by a train? Some like blue check guy that like Hillary Clinton tweeted about dying.

Wait, what? He was like, and then Michael Tracy tweeted that he's never had a pleasant interaction with him, but he was sad about his sudden death. Wait. He like got hit by a train. Like obviously the Clintons killed him or something. Wait, who got...

Wait, some guy got hit by a blue check. The Hilton, the Clintons tweeted about, got hit by a train in New York? In like New Jersey or something, but I don't know his name or any... Like I don't have anywhere in for them. How do you get hit by a train as a man in this day and age? Maybe he killed himself or something like that.

It's clear. And then like, you know, but maybe the Clintons killed him. I don't know. They shouldn't be tweeting about people's sudden death with a body count like that. They shouldn't be tweeting about sudden deaths really at all.

They shouldn't be weighing in. Or should Michael Tracy? I think it's cute. I forgive Michael Tracy. I love Michael Tracy. I really do. I would like, we need to have him on the show again. Did any go to Ukraine or something?

Yeah, we should have him on. We should have him on. Eli was like, you need to have Michael Tracy and Glenn Green rolled on. Cause he actually dutifully listens to the podcast. It's really sweet. Oh, that's nice. But I think he's kind of like,

as a straight male, he prefers the episodes where we have like a male guest explaining things to us versus when we're like, what's your sign? You know, what's your sign? Did you shoplift today? Yeah. Not the last time you shoplifted.

It's like pornography for women. I got a drunken elephant mask from stuff. I got a little leather jacket that I'm just like, like a little like, it was like some Japanese, but like basically like a biker jacket. And it was just like, never gonna, I'm never gonna wear a little biker jacket, you know?

Like what kind of biker jacket? Like a little cropped kind. It just like, even though it was like Japanese and just like a little bit cooler than that, it's still, I was like, I really just don't think I can do it. And it was kind of stiff. And I was like, self give this.

This is not sparking joy, as Mary Kondo says. You have to throw everything away that doesn't spark joy. But it takes long time cause you have to go through everything and she says you have to do it all at once or it won't work. That's true.

It won't like transform your life if you still have like ephemera around. And I have so much like, I really have so much stupid crap. You have to clear your closet because we have to go to Vegas to see Morrissey and we're gonna be buying up some merch. We're gonna be buying,

we're gonna be spending in Vegas and gambling. You should just do a pot in Vegas, honestly. We could do, we could go to the Strip. Never been. My hometown. I know. I would love to go.

I could have my parents. I'm just like, apologize. Like Japanese style. Yeah, and I could say she's sorry. It's my dad. I'm so sorry for calling you a neo-nazi. It's like, what? Oh my God, I feel so bad

that I offended your dad and my mom. I really do. I'm gonna like become Catholic. I know. I'm gonna say penance. I feel so bad. You feel guilty. You disrespect them.

I literally do not care anymore because we're like, you're a fascist and a non-buyer. I was just like, what the hell is this? But I feel so bad for offending our parents. I know, I know. And that's not what we do here on the podcast. We fall in line. Was there, what else was on the docket?

I don't fucking know. I'm just gonna look at our text really quick and make sure there's nothing we miss. And then we can call it, because it's late. Sorry. No, it's fine. Sorry, I'm just looking at my text. Donald Trump endorsed Dr. Oz.

You said, didn't know Dr. Oz was a Republican. Pretty interesting. I kind of can guess that about him. That he's a Republican. I mean, I guess he's Turkish. Yeah, so. Oh, this picture of AOC, talking to Joe Biden, where she's like clasping his hands

and standing really close to him and looking up at him. And then she said- It looks so pornographic. It looks, it's lit pornographic. He looks dead. His eyes are closed. He looks like a complete corpse that she's looking up at. And it says, and then I said, okay, for real,

we need to forgive student loan debt. Angel emoji? Never give up an organizing opportunity. Why are it left to still in this chaos student loan debt? What's going on? And that makes me feel skid so honestly. It makes me feel like it looks like a wax museum. It does, yeah.

It does. Do you be like a madam to so as image? See, I really do hope she runs for president in 2020. She probably will, honestly. The way things are going, I could really see that being, that happening. I think it might be fun. I think it would be fun, but anything, you know,

politics can be very unpredictable. Sometimes you really can't artistically account for everything that happens. No, exactly. But I wonder if anybody's still like on the AOC train. I bet. No, so many people are really like,

I feel like the tide really shifted and there was like a period of reckoning, like very recently where everybody's like, wait. The AOC is like a crisis actor and like. Something really cracked, I think, in a lot of people's reality, but I definitely think there's probably still a bunch of just like liberal, like, you know,

they like don't think about it because they're so good and they love AOC, you know? Yeah. That picture reminded me of all the times I was like 14 or 15 at various family functions and some like uncle by marriage would like try to fondle me. You're a great girl and on the right track. Did I be like, oh dad, no, no, Anna.

It really had that vibe. Yeah, no, it doesn't, the optics are not hitting, but wouldn't it have been my? Yeah, it's like a dirty grandpa sort of thing and poor Biden doesn't even know what's going on. He's, I swear, I mean, yeah. He really has no idea what's going on. He seems like he's had a lot of face lift.

He has a lot of face lift. He looks really rough. Did you see that tweet? I can't believe he's still alive, honestly. I kind of thought two years into his presidency. Well, remember Patrick Psychic said. Exactly. That's exactly where I'm getting my information,

which was I was expecting him to die because Patrick told us. His psychic said he would die two years into his term, and then, I mean, we shouldn't air her out, but then Kamala would obviously take off. Patrick Sandberg said that. And it fired from his job. It has not come to fruition. Well, I know there's many months still left in the year.

We have time, in other words. That's true. Yeah. That's true. Something about him feels dead, but also, like, eternal somehow. Well, maybe the psychic was, like, kind of not technically right, but spiritually right because he's sort of spiritually dead. Right, but Kamala seems not empowered at all.

Really? She seems, like, super empowered and is, like, good at doing photo ops and, like, stomping through places with, like, a super, like, aggressive direction. What is she doing, really? But she's not really doing anything. She's, like, kind of, like, plows through the White House and her, like, brown powers.

She's incredibly powerful. That's true. She's, yeah. She has a gravity to her, for sure, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. The French elections are happening. I'm too stupid to understand.

Like, they're, like, oh, there's a second round. Oh, you texted me something about it. Le Pen. She's, like, a Macron. Macron icon. I literally thought there was one person whose name was Macron Le Pen. I thought that was one person, not two completely different

people who are running against each other, to be the president of France, OK? Well, OK. And who's winning? It's, like, they're both. Well, Macron is, like, leading an exit polls, but Le Pen is, like, close. And Le Pen was his teacher, and he was her student.

No, but she looks like his, like, his older wife. No, she's, like, the ultra-nationalist far-right candidate who's, like, an Islamophobe, which is. Well. Yeah. Well. I'm with her. Just kidding.

Just kidding. We don't live in France. It's not. Yeah, we don't. I don't have any opinions about Islam. Me neither. I mean, whatever. Let's, like, get into it.

We don't need to talk about it. I don't need to talk about it. There's no reason for me to talk about it, so I'm not going to. Well, OK. We'll see you at home.