Red Scare - Loveline Again

The ladies are back for another round of taking your burning love and sex questions. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, I'm recording. It's a love line, y'all. Welcome to Red Scare Podcast, love line edition. Yeah. How many love lines have we done? Like four or five? We've done a fair amount. Usually they're paywall. This is a free one. We have so many questions. We could stretch it over two EPs. So many people who can't fuck and are lonely. Yeah. Lots of age gap questions in this one now that we've made ourselves look like a groomer associate groomer truthers. Yeah. Somebody on Wikipedia did the really commendable task of numbering all of our episodes. So I never have to do that because I was literally my OCD was flaring up. Do we
Starting point is 00:01:10 have a Red Scare wiki? Yeah. And I was gonna go back and like number all the episodes for like housekeeping reasons. And somebody already did that. So I don't have to, which is how many apps are we? There's like 186 or 187. Wow. Look at our wiki. Yeah. Cultural commentary, humor, politics. That's nice. Wow. It's so long. I know. Oh my God. Thank God for great. Wow. We've done so many podcasts. 19 this is 191. Okay. Whoa. Okay. So it like kind of automatically populates or whatever. Wow. We should do something for our 200th. We went to the zoo for our 100th. Oh, yeah. But obviously we can't do that anymore. You can find something gay and retarded to
Starting point is 00:02:00 do for 200. So many hours of podcasting. Wow. Well, shall we get into our fans burning questions? Okay, I'll go first. Hi, ladies. My wife and I haven't been having much sex lately. We had a baby a little over two and a half years ago. But honestly, it's been more of a problem in the last year than anything. And that time I've developed a pretty debilitating porn addiction. And now I'm feeling totally at its mercy and having trouble getting aroused in any situations, including watching porn and masturbating, even though I still do that often. I also fix it on cheating, but don't act on it. This is definitely affecting our sex life.
Starting point is 00:02:41 She doesn't know about it, though. But fortunately, the rest of our relationship is solid. Any tips for a complete porn detox to hopefully restore my equilibrium and not feel ashamed and sinister about myself anymore? That's rough. I mean, nofap's the only way. Yeah. You have to take an oath of nofap. Being a porn addict is like being an alcoholic or an opioid addict. It's like really hard. Once you know you can't go back. Well, what do you mean? You can recover from pornographic addiction. It's got a long, arduous journey. You have to restrict, right? You have to stop. Cold turkey. Basically. I mean, I recovered
Starting point is 00:03:22 from basically porn addiction, I think, and I still watch porn occasionally. But I do feel guilty about it. But it's not like I don't watch it every day the way I used to. Yeah, but I still relapse and his problem seems to be that he's living in a tight space with his wife and kid, and he has no other outlet for himself. Well, because he can't fuck his wife. Yeah, then like porn and cheating fantasies. And now he's getting, well, now he's having trouble even getting it up for for pornography. Which is pretty bad. I think he needs to like develop, well, first of all, quit cold turkey and then like develop a hobby. That's not porn.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like take a hunting if you have to. Wow. I'm not even. No, you're a big animal advocate. Yeah. Yeah, gotta find another way to fill your time. Yeah. And just kind of instead of watching porn, the sun's gay, but try and do some kind of fantasy. Maybe just erotic self care or something. Yeah. Not jacking off, but like try and develop a kind of try and get back in touch with your desires and trying to reorient them around your wife, I guess. Yeah, or like take a paintballing or MMA or whatever men do. Yeah, don't play video games. I'm sure you already do that. Men are pathetic. Yeah, no fabs the only way. I was thinking that we had we got so
Starting point is 00:05:04 many questions about like people saying that they were having a hard time finding other people that they clicked with or even finding anyone. Yeah, we got a couple of questions from like lesbians saying like I can't find any cool chicks in my area. A bunch of gay guys being like I'm so desensitized. I hate having casual sex, but I also don't want to become like a Pete and chase and Buddha judge. Right couple. I was like, we should start like a red scare classifieds. Hmm. Do it the old fashioned way. Like that. Well, there was that red yenta socialist dating service. Yeah, to do that. I mean, the red, it's you can meet
Starting point is 00:05:43 people in the reddit. I know some redditors who have met. Fuck to be yeah. Okay. Next question is my boyfriend has gained a significant amount of weight in the past year. We're five years into dating deeply in love living together and planning a future together. But the truth is that I don't find him physically attractive at his current weight. As far as he can tell our sex life hasn't changed, but I need to pretend his new gut isn't there if I want to orgasm. I've been doing my best to gently encourage him to change cooking healthy meals to share going for walks with him, asking him to work out with me going out, going for outdoor day trips
Starting point is 00:06:20 to alleviate stress. Nothing has a lasting impact on his weight or lifestyle. How can I motivate him to change without emasculating or hurting him? Damn, she's a nice girl for like, she's a nice girlfriend. I was thinking that for putting out when she like can't get it up for this guy and like worrying about emasculating or hurting him. Yeah. I'd be like, get off the couch. You fat fact. I don't know. I mean, I I've had fat boyfriends before. Me too. And it hasn't been a problem for me. Yeah. But I get it. Yeah. I mean, I don't. But maybe that's because I'm so self absorbed. The sex act is usually like kind of a cat
Starting point is 00:07:13 person. Ask like, you know, out of body experience for me anyway. I don't know. I mean, maybe he might just be getting fat. He also sounds depressed. And I would look into the fact of whether your relationship is is going as you think it's going because he could be he could be just like depressed and like not horny and like, yeah, kind of losing touch with blues or something. Yeah. He's losing touch kind of with his body. Maybe because he's has depression for sure. I mean, I think you have to kind of put it in a mutually utilitarian way. Like, you don't have to hurt him or emasculate him. But you can say and kind of like, know in
Starting point is 00:08:03 certain terms that this is a deal breaker, not because he's fat or ugly, but because you want to have a future with him. And this is not a good sign for what the future bodes, right? An issue kind of sure he knows he's fat. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't care. I mean, it sounds like she hasn't been sufficiently confrontational with him. Yeah. So I would try that communication is key. I know I sound like really kind of corny and self healthy. But I mean, yeah, short of like, actively calorie restricting him, there's no, there's no alternative besides being pretty upfront. Yeah. Okay. She could be really dramatic and just
Starting point is 00:08:50 comment on other men she finds attractive. But it's all like being pole rocker guys. Okay, here's a voicemail question. Hi, guys. I have a pretty simple question. If you had to procreate with any monkey species, what would it be? Thanks. You might have to download them and put them in manually because it's when I put the mic up to the computer, it makes a horrible sound. The question is if you could procreate with any monkey species, what would it be? Arangatang. Arangatang, why? I don't know. I think that they were not a chimp, I guess. Chimps are muscular. I don't know. Arangatangs, they're cool. They're like orange and their
Starting point is 00:09:47 face looks like a diaper or something. Yeah. I'm not like attracted to them, but I think if procreation, if like procreatings the, I guess if maybe an ape, maybe a more kind, maybe like a gorilla. I was gonna say gorilla, that's the line. Gorilla juice head. Silverback. I like the wisdom of the Arangatang. Yeah. Maybe that's trickery, trickstery and like impish. Yeah, I find them cute. This is a monkey breed. I don't want to fuck, but I do want to bathe in those hot springs with those Japanese red-faced monkeys. They're really cute. And they have wise faces and they seem like they're like their friends and family members. It's really cute. Yeah. Baboon. I guess I'm thinking, you know, kind of what the hybrid
Starting point is 00:10:40 of the monkey humanoid would look like. Yeah. So that's why I'm going with Arangatang because I think they'd be kind of gingery and special. Yeah. It would just look like Ed Sheeran or trickstery. British guy. I've often liked gingers. So that's my answer. Okay. Here's another pornographic one. Hi, I work a shit job as a college student low wage and on air conditioned in Georgia. I have a shit car I need to replace. So this money is going somewhere important. I'm a 21 year old gay male and I've done a handful of porn scenes with a well known studio. And while the actual process is quite professional, I'm having second thoughts. I applied on a whim when I was super broke. I was doing the whole only fence thing. I've stopped to destroy my psyche. And while I've
Starting point is 00:11:34 been lifted from financial security, I don't think I can do it anymore. To sum it up, it feels really debauched and demeaning at this point. Since I've gone through serious bouts of body and security, it feels humiliating to be totally exposed in a well lit room and have to do things that I would never do in my personal sex life. I see the irony here, but at least when I'm taking nudes at home, I have total control over my image as opposed to being at the mercy of the director. That's not to mention the moral uncertainty I feel about being involved in the porn industry. On the other hand, the pay is really good, good enough to make me consider going back. Anyways, I know you'll have something interesting to say. Thank you, tea. I don't have anything interesting
Starting point is 00:12:11 to say, but I think he sounds like a very smart and capable and conscientious young man. You're young, you're only 21. Yeah, he sounds just like very smart and gentle and kind. And I think that he could take a few months and look around for jobs that don't involve demeaning himself. I know it's like really hard, but you know, push comes to shove. It does sound very demoralizing, but I understand the financial pressures that drive everyone to I mean, the only fans, I guess, seems preferable to the studio model, even if it's less lucrative, but obviously, that's not a good option either. Yeah. I'm sorry. Well, I mean, the other option is to continue doing the porn, hoard as much money as you can and try to like save it aggressively or
Starting point is 00:13:11 maybe invest it. I mean, these are all like incredibly risky options. Yeah, I would suggest even escorting, because then it sounds like at least you wouldn't trigger your kind of body dysphoria or whatever. And there wouldn't be like maybe a record of it. You could do something more discreetly and establish better boundaries, perhaps, but as a gay guy, I understand that that's not as straightforward as an option as it would be for a girl. Because sex is so available for gay men for free, it seems. Yeah, I would second Anne's advice to just give it a shot. It sounds like you know that you can't keep doing it. That's why you're asking. Yeah, it's not like no money in the world is worth destroying your
Starting point is 00:14:01 psyche and your body. It's really not, especially if you're like young and able-bodied. It's true. All I can do is offer him some encouragement. Again, he sounds very intelligent and well-spoken, and I have no doubt in my mind that there's... You could get a sugar daddy, maybe even you could, you know, I think it'd be easier to live with yourself if just one person was demeaning you rather than an industry. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, all of these things are sort of like unpleasant because then if you get a sugar daddy and it's like not an entirely ideal relationship, sex work sucks. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'm sorry. I know. We get heat for that very non-controversial opinion that sex work, like all work, can be exploitative and degrading.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I mean, it sucks for a lot of people. I think some people are better suited for it and more power to them. I was reading... I brought him up on the podcast before. This guy, James Hellman, he's like a post-Youngian psychologist, and he wrote a book about the anima that's like kind of the archetypally kind of like feminine forces that dwell in our subconscious and psyche. And he sort of talks about the archetypal whore, the Latin word for which is maritrix, which was a designation reserved for high class prostitutes, I guess. I guess for me, the difference between a maritrix and a sex slave, right? Maritrix comes from the root for marit, meaning like one who she earns, literally. And that there is a dignified way, I think, to
Starting point is 00:16:21 kind of embody an archetypal whore or to negotiate sex work on dignified terms, but in our like horrible modernity whores are basically mostly sex slaves, essentially, you know? Yeah. And it's usually not an empowering avenue. And our dignity-free society, it's really hard to... Yeah, exactly. Because it's like sex worker now, the whole sex work thing, it's like a double sided dildo, you know? Like the firm sex work, it brings only fans, cam girls, and like feet pick vendors under the same umbrella as prostitutes, you know? And it's designed to do this clever little intellectual maneuver where on one hand, you kind of whitewash what prostitutes are doing, and then you glamorize what the only fans, cam girls are doing. It's like a kind of
Starting point is 00:17:32 relationship that's very kind of corrosive for both sides. And I don't know, I don't even like the term sex work. Yeah. And a lot of like sex work advocates who usually tend to be either like only fans type of girls or like very high paid kind of escorts. Yeah. Neither of whom are like affected by the same societal pressures that like street prostitutes are, or like women who are literally it also, I mean, yeah, it also conflates like trafficking victims with workers, like other kinds of labor discourse does. And just people have different thresholds for trauma. And that's just the truth. And so there isn't it's not an easy conversation to have because it is, I think, deeply traumatic for a lot of people. And it doesn't seem ethical to ignore that, to benefit like a
Starting point is 00:18:47 small percentage of people for whom it seems empowering. Yeah. Anyway. Hi, ladies. So I just got out of a relationship. I'm 27. And it was about four years. Ultimately, we grew apart. My question is how virtue what extent do you personally feel like a man should take care of you financially? Maybe it's a little personal and I know it's specific to everyone. But I always struggle with this because me and my boyfriend, we split everything in half. And during the whole time we were together, I had never really fought anything for me and never really taken care of any of the bills. You basically just split everything in half. Ultimately, there's kind of, you know, I question that a lot of time because it's
Starting point is 00:20:13 like my traditional route. And I just want to hear your guys opinion to what extent do you think that a man should step up on, if that makes sense. Thank you. I tend to be personally feel like a man should take care of us financially. Within his means. Yeah. I think that, you know, I don't have like an expectation that my partner financially support me. Necessarily, it's more about, I don't know, I have a pretty equitable financial distribution in my relationship, I think. But I don't know, to me, it seems like it should be proportionate to how much you're earning, you know, like it doesn't make sense to necessarily go Dutch if he's earning much more than you. Right. But I also think that men should want to,
Starting point is 00:21:19 if not support you at least, like spend money on you on some tree. Yeah. Like they should buy you things because it's hot and fun too. Yeah. And it makes you like them more. Yeah. And it shows that kind of good. Yeah. I mean, mutually, it's not about the amount of money as much as it is about like a sort of spirit of, of generosity and care. Yes. Yeah. And you shouldn't, you shouldn't it's hot for men to feel and it's hot for them, I think also to feel like they're able to provide it kind of, if not like basic comforts, like material comforts for you, you know. Yeah, this is like a complicated issue, I think, yeah, expecting somebody to foot your bill all the time is weird and exploitative. Yeah. Not the basis of a good relationship, but also like, if I'm,
Starting point is 00:22:23 you know, if a man has no instinct whatsoever to provide or treat you, then there's something wrong with that man. Like, I understand, like, you know, there's different types of men at different types of stages in their lives. And it's like, you know, right. If you're like in college, yeah, you're, you know, to your boyfriend's dad, boyfriend, he's lavishing you with like gifts and paying for your life. But, but, you know, I think like it sounds like what she's describing isn't even like financial support. He never bought her gifts or took her out, which is like just bad. Yeah. And I think she probably dodged a bullet, getting out of this relationship with this guy. I also don't understand what's in it for the guy if he can't at least larp as a provider
Starting point is 00:23:16 on some level, right? Exactly. I mean, bills are one thing. It's not like sexy for a man to pay your yeah, your bills and their STD bill. But yeah, there should be, I don't know, even if you are able to provide for yourself that a man should take some initiative and kind of being more responsible, I guess. Yeah. And on the flip side, I think like if you're with a man who pays for everything, it's nice sometimes to treat them and to take them out to dinner. It's true. Yeah. I do my part. Okay, Eli, you want to go to Taco Bell? What do you do when your boyfriend has a nude picture of his ex-girlfriend hanging front and center in the main part of his apartment? He's a photographer and objectively, it's a beautiful
Starting point is 00:24:15 photo and honestly, his best work. Most of the other seven to eight photos hanging surrounding it are of women he's worked with professionally, all in smaller frames. He once said he likes the photo because it looks anonymous, but it's simply not as if it's if someone he once thought he would have kids with. I can't get it slash her out of my head when she's directly above where we eat dinner, where we relax, where we sometimes have sex. And now when we FaceTime, it sometimes looks like she's perched on his fucking shoulder. When we cord there together, it was like she was present and it was seriously irritating. Wondering if I should just grow up and sublimate my annoyance to just accepting that this is his art and best work, or I should do something wild like be honest
Starting point is 00:24:50 about how it makes me feel. See you now. I want to know how long they've been dating, because the answer to the question kind of depends on the longevity of the relationship. Well, if they cord together, I think regardless, he should take it down. It's not as if she wants it to be destroyed or like stricken from the record of the body of his work. But I think it is inappropriate to have a photograph of your ex, especially emotionally terrorize your girlfriend in your living space. But if I'm being honest, sounds like you played yourself by dating a photographer. Yeah, I know. Also, you know, no photo is that good that it needs to be prominently displayed. Yeah. And the fact that her head isn't in it is even worse. Is her head not in it? I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:42 it's anonymous. So I'm assuming her head's not in it, right? I'm just extrapolating. I mean, maybe that's him kind of coping. Hard to say. Yeah, maybe it's just a picture of the anti-pho-thena girl. He's actually a photojournalist. It's a photo of her asshole, anonymous. It's like a a prolapse. Yeah, I think it's in poor taste to have many, it sounds like eight or nine photos of naked women in your apartment to begin with. Yeah. Last of all, to showcase one of and a former flame. Yeah, I don't like this. It sounds sketchy. I think her instinct to write. I think, yeah, you should take it down. And I don't know. I don't. But also, again, it sounds like she hasn't been honest or confronted him about it. So maybe he will take it down. I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I think he like, you know, like all art men get off on a kind of lording over women who like worship them or whatever. But yeah, he sounds like a narcissist. It would be my guess. But yeah, let him know how you feel. And if he doesn't take it down, then start some shit. Then start some shit. You take it down. You take it down. A pair of scissors. Okay. Next question. Hi, Anandasha. Love the pod and love the recent Enneagram discourse. Could you talk more about your types and dish out some love advice for an Enneagram four wing five? Is that correct? Am I pronouncing that right? Like myself? Sure. You recently took an Enneagram test. Yeah, I'm five wing four. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, we're like flipped around and our and our boyfriends are flipped around too. And they're like the same. Yeah, which is interesting. Yeah, fours and fives have a very special bond. If you look at the Enneagram, the actual symbol itself, it's fours and fives are down at the bottom and they have the kind of triangles emanating from them are at a different ratio than the other ones. And there's a sort of a space between four and five that I've seen referred to as like the abyss of the Enneagram. They're the most kind of sensitive personality types. Yeah. And so I feel like their bond has to do with something about like reaching across this abyss. Ultimately, the bottomless pit, narcissistic dissatisfaction.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I mean, and my romantic advice would really vary depending on who you were trying to be, you know, which type you were trying to be in a relationship with, I guess, but but because no two types are necessarily more or less compatible, it's kind of about your own health and kind of like integration within your own type, you know, like ideally a healthy, any kind could be a good partner to someone. Okay. But fours, I guess primarily because their ego fixation has to do with melancholy. It's helped me a lot, even in even just like studying the Enneagram has helped me because it's made me less self-absorbed, which is a big problem for fours. Like solipsism. Solipsism is more cut fours and fives are both
Starting point is 00:29:35 self-absorbed. Fives are more cerebral and fours are more emotional. Okay. And a kind of stock advice that's given to fours is your feelings are not facts. Right. But I think I said this on the Lana one that never really hit right, that never really resonated with me because my feelings do feel so intense and factual. Yeah. That I've the way that I've been able to reframe it that's been more helpful has been like things aren't more true because they are more intense. You know, gotcha. Yeah. And I think that's good advice for everyone but fours especially that would be my, my advice is to kind of keep yourself in check a little bit, maybe don't send the manipulative texts that you want to and try and be mindful of your own kind of motivations
Starting point is 00:30:33 and shortcomings as, as a person. Yeah. That's good advice for anyone. I can't really add to that because I just did the test. Yeah. You're just beginning on your. I'm really embarrassed, by the way, this is an esoteric interest of mine that I've developed in quarantine, but it has, I mean, it's better than like becoming like a porn or drug addict or gaining weight. So there you go. Exactly. So, but it's, I've found it to be very helpful. Next voice one. Next voicemail. Hi ladies. So I just started meeting this man. He's absolutely amazing. Our dates have been electric and I really like him and so we've been seeing each other quite a bit and today we were just hanging out and he told me, you know, I really like you. I feel like
Starting point is 00:31:30 this could maybe be the real deal, but I have something to tell you. And what he told me is that he is a Christian and he is waiting until marriage. He's had sex in the past, but it didn't feel like the following to him. So now he's waiting until marriage. And I have never encountered this situation and I have no idea what to do or how I should feel about it. So any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Love the show. My advice is that they're going to end up having sex before marriage. Yeah, sounds hot. Sounds like he's enforced a nice erotic boundary that will be interesting to traverse. Really fun to break. They're gonna like edge and then break. Yeah, sounds like you're
Starting point is 00:32:17 in for a nice extended edging session. I would just make sure that he's not some sort of like straight edge freak. Yeah, or that there's something like horribly wrong with his dick. You know, I guess, God, that's what she has to do. She has to be like, okay, I'll make you a deal. So we don't have to have sex until we're married. You have to show me your dick. Yeah, well, okay. Yeah. I mean, so say they, I mean, it sounds like they're getting along great. They should keep seeing each other, but say he doesn't put out at a certain point how, when is enough enough? And would you move the question I have is would you marry someone without having sex with them? Yeah, no, never. How could you? I don't know. Maybe it just feels really right to wait.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I don't know. I think what she has to do is like just have random reckless sex with a bunch of other guys while they're dating and then keep the jig up with him. And then when they get married, she gives them a STD and then you really trap them for good. Yeah, that's, that's a tough one. No, I just, my hunch is that they're going to end up having sex if he likes her and she likes him. It's just like going to be untenable or there's is something wrong in his kind of valve salivacy is just like a cope or a cover up for it and that'll come out anyway. So yeah, good luck. Hi ladies. My question is this, I have been with my partner for three years. We have a one year old baby and live together. All in all, our life is stable, but he refuses to get married. He was married
Starting point is 00:34:09 years ago in divorce since his marriage doesn't mean anything piece of paper yada yada. My argument is if it doesn't mean anything to him, then let's do it for my sake. He won't discuss it. Do you have any advice on how to convince this dummy? Is marriage overrated? He needs maria. Yeah. He owes it to you. If it's just a piece of paper, which isn't true, it's you have a baby with this person. He's already made a bigger commitment to you than getting married. He started a family with him and he owes you the, he needs to suck it up and he owes you the insurance of marrying you. Yeah. And it's like, you know, you need to throw a fit and withhold sex until he does because it's insane. You've already done the hard part. You have a baby together. Whether or not you end up
Starting point is 00:34:55 together, you're on the hook for life. Yeah. So what's, what is the piece of paper? Yeah. He already, he's already on the hook paternally. Yeah. So why not add some alimony to that? And I think like you deserve to be wifed up for being the mother of his child if that's something that you care about and value, right? Yeah. And he should respect that marriage is not overrated. This is exactly the kind of situation in which you ought to be married because it protects you as a family unit. Yeah. And that's just, that's not even romantic or like unreasonable. That's just, I mean, and I think he like owes it to you to at least entertain it if he loves you and like loves your family. There was a lot of, I like wrote down
Starting point is 00:35:45 a list of all the questions that we got about marriage and kids. Yeah. Somebody asked whether it's selfish of her to bring a kid into her life as a poor and struggling artist and she has a boyfriend of 10 years who's about it, but she's reluctant to commit. And like my hunch there was that like, if you are afraid of bringing your child into a difficult life, what you're really afraid of is taking a hit to your lifestyle, you know, and somebody else asked, you know, at this point in time in hell, the world in hell world, is it more selfish to want kids or to not want kids? It's more selfish to not want kids. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, they're both selfish. They're both people have children for selfish reasons and they don't have children for selfish
Starting point is 00:36:34 reasons too. But my feeling also is that it's like, okay, it's selfish. Sure, it's on some level selfish to want to promulgate your genetic line. And on some level, it's also equally selfish to not want to promulgate your genetic line. But I think like, if you believe in the future, you should probably have kids because it's like the future like change begins at the individual level. Right. Right. The individual and then the family is like the second smallest unit. Yeah, like, nothing dulls out. So if you get things right in your mind, then you get things right in your home. Ultimately, the world will be a better place. Yeah. If everyone takes that advice. And I think like you, you are a personal decision to have or to not have kids won't make
Starting point is 00:37:25 that much of a dent in the world anyway. So you may as well do it. It's sort of like voting, like you voting or not voting is a drop in the bucket. Nobody gives a shit. Right. Somebody else who's a 19 year old gay guy asked, said that he really wants to have kids in the future. But he catches himself wondering if it's fair to raise a child without a mother. It's not unfair. Yeah. But also you could the child could have a mother. Yeah. Unless you're talking about some kind of surrogacy situation. It's I have a secret fantasy of reproducing with a gay co parentings. Yeah. A little twink of our own. All these like family structures and dynamics are like up for grabs now. Also, like, it's really sweet and beautiful and commendable that this
Starting point is 00:38:23 kid is so young and so certain that he wants to have kids. And it's like, yeah, like, I think we should treat these things as like a rule of thumb and not a hard rule. It's probably good for a kid to have a mother, but like plenty of kids grew up without a mother and turned out fine. Yeah. And like gay parents are just like any other parents in that some are really shitty and some are pretty good. Yeah. And men can be maternal, especially if they're actually homosexual. Listen, the feminine one in your relationship is the mother. The bottom is the mommy. That's how it works. Wait, are we this one? Okay. Now from from tender questions of love and marriage to threesomes, ladies threesome one or zero on the binary if one which configuration do would you
Starting point is 00:39:18 prefer? Have you had a threesome Anna? No. I have. I've had a couple and they've all been the two of the two girl one male variety. Yeah, that's what I would prefer if it was going to go down. I don't want to get spit roasted by two guys who are like high fiving. No, Eiffel towering me. I don't yeah, not interested. And then like what is it? But there's no chemistry between the guys and they're trying not to like touch each other's dicks or I don't know my preference for a threesome. I think the golden standard is to be the third. Yes. Yeah, to either be all neither no three of you are in a relationship is maybe the best. You're all kind of casually sucking and fucking. Yeah, or you are the third one there who is there for a couple or you have some kind of deep bond
Starting point is 00:40:20 with a woman in your life who you will kind of use a third man to facilitate a kind of sexual relationship with. Yeah, but it's I wouldn't want to be like in a couple like kind of like scrounging around like cruising around for like a third person that would feel I would feel a little too like Jeffrey and Gillette. Exactly. If it happened naturally, I wouldn't necessarily be or especially if I did feel some kind of bond with the third party, the other girl. But yeah, the thought of like soliciting someone to fuck me and my boyfriend is mortifying. It's horrifying. Yeah. And then yeah, as someone who's been solicited for three ways and then like talked about it with my friends, I would hate to be on the like other end of that, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah, where you just like I've that I have been solicited a lot of times for three ways and it's always it always feels so seedy and sketchy and I can never go through with it because then I'm like, what's the etiquette and the protocol? Like I would do it if it was just like me and two other random people and it randomly came together, then I'd be like, yeah, okay, cool. But like if a couple solicits you like, do you just take an Uber home at the end of the night or what's what you sleep with them? Yeah, gross. Yeah. Or like you sleep on the couch and it's awkward. I don't know. Yeah. In general, it's a much hotter fantasy than it ever really is in practice also because sex is so much more than just sex. It doesn't tell all these other kind of things like,
Starting point is 00:42:07 you know, foreplay and then post coital moments and negotiating. It's it's just that's just a lot and so stressful. Yeah. But like as you know, sure the thought of like giving a double beach does sound like hot and exciting and fun. Of course, like Eli as any red-blooded man is like into this idea. And I've always told him like, if it happens, I won't like, refuse it. But we're not going to, I mean, not that he's ever pressed for this, but we're not going to cruise into Klan to see, you know, and I'm wearing like a fucking halter top with fringe and he's wearing a parka and we're like, hey, 21 year olds. Who's the lucky girl going to be? Yeah, if it like was something that fell, it would have to feel very kind of casual and non-premedical. Yeah. The premeditation
Starting point is 00:43:13 is the part that sucks. I don't I'm not down with any kind of sex that feels premeditated. It's like really gross. Yeah. Seedy. The other thing is kind of a scheduled kind of act. Three sums to their credit seem like they could be fun, but I file them under like 69ing and shower sex is like overrated concepts that are like not that exciting. Actually, if you yeah, get down to them. Anyway, is it although three sums I've had have been incredibly drunk. Yeah, that's well, that's usually how it happens, right? Yeah. Should we? No, let's get that one. Here we go. Okay. Hi, Dan of the pod, friend of the pod. First, I want to say I'm with a previous caller, Ross, but that's neither here nor there. My question is specifically to Anna.
Starting point is 00:44:12 How do you deal with seeing in a long term relationship to an avant-garde drummer, because I'm in a really similar situation. And frankly, it makes me want to kill myself. And I'm trying to kind of open more avenues of connection and get away from that energy. And I'm kind of at a loss because I feel like I'm kind of a late bloomer. I don't have a late bloomer. So how do you cope with being in that situation? And if you were to leave it, what advice would you give to someone who wants to be more free from that situation? Thank you so much. See you in hell. Anna, I love how somebody else is like laughing in the background. So how do you deal with the situation of being in a relationship with an avant-garde
Starting point is 00:45:02 drummer? I just avoid anything that has to do with like music or mention of the music. Yeah. I don't engage with music. My music consumption has gone way down. It has. Yeah. No, it's not because of him. It's just because I don't know. I haven't been. You've never been a big. I'm not really a big jazzhead or anything, but do you think it's frustrating for Eli that you don't care about jazz? Yeah, probably on some level, but also I don't care if he doesn't care about podcasting. You can answer the question on the flip side. How do you feel dating a podcaster? Gay, bro. I mean, I think you're in an enviable position because you have been able to travel the world. He's sort of adored in these exotic locales for his avant-garde drumming.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I mean, I think it's great because he's like my daddy and he takes me on exotic international trips and buys me dinner. That sounds great. To compensate for my relative disinterest in his musical career, there are little groupie hoes that seem to be very interested in him that I might let him have a threesome with. It seems, I mean, it seems fine. I think you should probably not care about your significant other's job. The worst possible pairing I can ever think of is two successful writers, media people. That seems media people. By writer, I don't mean successful art novelists. I mean two media journals. Yeah, it's definitely good to date someone in a different field. Yeah, but an adjacent field. Yeah, creative, but not too
Starting point is 00:46:59 similar. I think, I mean, it's not a question for me. I mean, I don't know. Dating musicians has its own. I've pretty much only dated musicians and artists before. You always talk about how you love construction workers, but you won't date one. It's like, yeah, everybody, of course, picks people within their milieu, but you pick the most masculine one, at least I do. That's my ammo. And our faggy milieu. Yeah, I pick the most manly man, the most macho man. Awankard drummers are kind of the construction workers of experimental music. They have developed upper body. They're like apes. Totally. The other perk of dating an Awankard drummer is that you know the o-face in advance. Because that's the most embarrassing thing when you have sex with a guy
Starting point is 00:48:03 for the first time. And he's like, you know, looks like a hot girl when he's coming or he starts crying or something. There was a question that I didn't think we would answer, but it was like, you know, how do you deal with your boyfriend crying when you suck him off? And I was just like, what? I don't know. Oh yeah, I saw that one. It was like, have you ever given your boyfriend a BJ so good that he started crying? And then the follow up was, does that mean he's in love with you? Nope. Which I'd say no, he just means he's repressed. Hello, I DM'd a fairly famous celebrity that I'm a huge fan of asking him on a date. He replied to my message and said that he was down. I'm now flying to LA in a few weeks to see him. I live in New York. Although I'm a big fan of his,
Starting point is 00:48:48 I'm not the type to really fan over celebrities. However, I've never dated someone famous and frankly don't have much dating experience period. And I'm just wondering if you guys have any tips for navigating it. So I don't come off as a fucking weirdo. I'm a pretty chill person, but I still want to make sure I'm playing it cool. Because he's been my celeb crush low key for a few years. And I'm a big fan of the pod. Oh my God. That's not what it says. That's not what it says. I'm a big fan of what he does. Wow. I'm narcissistically filling in the blanks. And I love the podcast. I'm a 19 year old male for reference. He's kind of close in age to me, not any grooming of consenting adults happening here. Don't worry. Love the pod. Keep up the good work. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:31 First of all, it sounds like you are a big fan of his. Secondly, I think you're putting the car way before the horse because don't assume he's trying to date you. Like celebrities are rich and famous, have consequence free lives. They can like fly someone into the city on whim. This could just be a hookup and it probably is, right? I wonder who it is. Yeah, I need to know. Zach Efron. I was going to say congrats to BJ Novak. But it's some young gay celeb. Celeb seems a little maybe dubious. It's like James Charles. Real celebs aren't recruiting sex on the in their DMs. Like celebs celebs, you know, they have like a network that they have private sex trafficking rings. Exactly. Um, my, I don't know. I think, you know, you just kind of have to feel it out.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I think once maybe you see him in person, he'll seem more real to you. You might even find that you're not attracted to him. Um, maybe once the kind of the sheen of the, the projections that you've made onto celebrity wither away. So, um, yeah, I think just pop a zan and try to have fun. Yeah, it'll, it'll be good. And if it doesn't work out, you have a great story to tell your friends back home. Exactly. Um, okay. Hey ladies. So during my core, my roommate close slash close friend of three years and I started sleeping together. It was fun and hot and totally chill. Our lease ended last month and I moved home until one day he left his diary in my bedroom on the table next to my bed. I read what he wrote about me and he said he really enjoyed hooking up with me and
Starting point is 00:51:25 wanted to for a while, but then said he'd be embarrassed if our friends found out. I already told all my closest friends and they're convinced that he planted the diary. So I would read it. What should I do? I kind of hate him. My birthdays in two weeks. Should I even invite him? Yikes. Yikes. I mean, I believe her friends that this is an inside job and it was totally planted. What kind of faggot keeps a diary? I know that's what I'm saying. Like, Yeah, I agree that it sounds like he wrote, he wrote it on purpose for you to see it. Yeah. He wants to keep your sex discreet, which prayer kind of Gmail, Abba, you look pretty hot to be honest. Yeah, I was going to say, I was like, I want to answer
Starting point is 00:52:09 this question because she looks hot. Exotic name. Yeah, I think, yeah, don't invite him to your birthday party. Yeah, don't. Yeah, I see not a little and see, then he'll know. I think he's immature and he likes her and he's just like, not sure how to handle the situation. Yeah, being like a gay little bitch, but he's nagging her. Yeah. In a subtle way. Yeah, I think that she should just put him on ice for a minute and he'll come around and see how he feels when he's can't get that pussy anymore. Hi, Anna and Dasha. I'm just wondering how soon it's too soon to ask someone to come in your pussy if you have an IUD and you've been explicit that you have an IUD and that you've been tested, et cetera, et cetera. Love you. Bye. Congrats on the hot voice. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:03 very hot voice. I'd say never too soon. It's always a good time for cream pie. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say. I think he probably wants to. I'm sure he's pulling out out of respect for you. So if you put it on the table, I don't know what kind of man wouldn't take you up on the offer. I know. If she makes that request in that sexy sandpaper dipped in honey voice of hers. Come in my pussy. What man could resist? Yeah, say it during sex and he'll never, even if he weren't on an IUD, he wouldn't be able to resist. Yeah. As our friend in the front of the pod, Kyle learned it. And Dino. That story was like off the hook that he wrote. Oh, his long story. I guess it was a short story, but yeah. Yeah, he's very talented. He was working
Starting point is 00:54:06 on it when we were still roommates and early iterations. And I also like the thing that he posted of like the editor being like, yeah, this is about toxic masculinity. We're going to have to really frame it correctly. Hi, ladies. I've been exclusively dating this guy since the beginning of core. And at first he honestly seemed perfect beyond belief. He's 10 years older than me, huge dick, hot as fuck, loves his motorcycle and has zero posts on Instagram. However, the other day after we had sex, he told me that my vagina had a weird odor and that he didn't want to have sex with me until I figured out what was wrong. He framed it as something that he wanted to tell me because he quote, cared about me and my health. He also told me that this has happened with a lot
Starting point is 00:54:47 of girls he dated, which leads me to believe that it's a him problem. I was obviously super embarrassed and defensive and insisted nothing was wrong because it genuinely doesn't feel like anything is. Plus I've never gotten this feedback from anyone I've ever been with. Should I dump him for saying I have a stinky cunt and being super firm and definitive in this belief? Or should I be an accommodating partner and see if anything is wrong? P.S. It's not Chlamydia because I recently got tested at XOXO. This guy seems like a prick and he sounds gay. Yeah, that would be maybe my instinct, but maybe there is something wrong. Yeah, I would get it checked out on the slide. Maybe bacterial vaginosis or maybe your pH balances just kind of aren't meshing. It sounds like
Starting point is 00:55:31 it's not. If it's something that he's experienced before, he could be like throwing your pH level off with his weird dick or something. With his weird huge motorcycle riding dick. Yeah. I think that the story doesn't check out. I think he's trying to like soften the blow by saying like, hey, this is something I've experienced with other women, but he's probably just not that attracted to her. That's my hunch. That's always my hunch when. Interesting. Well, they've been dating since core, so it's been a while. Yeah, but maybe he's trying to dump her off. I don't know. Something just got instinct, something does not. Something in the milk ain't clean yet. Yeah. Something in her pussy ain't
Starting point is 00:56:10 clean. I think it's really weird to bring up to a woman. I mean, it's tough because sometimes there is something medically wrong. Like you have like BV or like a yeast infection or something. But it sounds like that's not maybe what's going on. It's maybe just some kind of pH body chemistry thing. It's not going right, but I'm sorry. Yeah, that sucks. I would get it checked out just to be careful. Yeah. But if there's nothing wrong. I'll fuck another guy and see how he thinks. Tell him you want to get a second opinion from one of his friends. He's like eating her out. And she's like, Hey, have you noticed any weird odors? Yeah, I think like, yeah, get it checked out. If it checks out, then, you know, do not hesitate to
Starting point is 00:56:58 kick this man to the curb. Hey, ladies, I think I'm a closet trans girl, but transitioning is really hard. Is it possible to be a non corny non binary? Do you know any cool they thems? I do not own a ukulele sure. Yeah, it's totally fine possible to be a non corny non binary. It sounds like they don't want to transition. Yeah, they want to just kind of take on a kind of androgynous identity. Yeah, or non binary identity, whatever. And that's totally possible. No, not possible. I think like the fact that they're asking this question already means that they're pretty cool, not annoying. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, if you are a closet trans girl, then I don't know if being a they them will appeal kind of alleviate
Starting point is 00:58:02 yeah, whatever dysphoria is causing you to feel that way. Or I don't know. But it's definitely possible you should definitely maybe experiment with your gender identity and see how that feels. Yeah, I think that that's what's probably in order. I definitely maybe would recommend kind of experimenting or living in a way like that prior to transitioning, you might find that being non binary isn't really what you're after and that you do want to transition in a more hormonal way. Yeah. But it is very hard. So it is a big decision. Yeah, so I like so give yourself like months, years if need be to like figure it out for yourself. Yeah, and don't worry so much about what other people think whether or not you're being corny by affirming a gender identity
Starting point is 00:59:05 that you experience. Live your truth. Wait, is it voicemail time? It's voicemail time. Don't be discussed. Oh, I'm scared. Okay, the question is literally how do you get your revolutionary Marxist nerd of a friend, I guess, older man, always an older man, to just sort of like give it all up and like run away with you, I guess. What else is there to do during lockdown, quarantine, burn it all down phase anyways? So we just sort of want to know how to persuade him to join you into the fleeing the best of the ocean. Thanks. How do you get a hot older man to run away with you? And tell him to come in your posse?
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah, just it's easy just embody his greatest desires, his most secret wishes in a woman and a partner and he won't be able to resist. Yeah, and be prepared that some of these kind of old Marxist nerds are old Marxist nerds for a reason, which is that they're too committed to their politics to flee the prison of their mind fashion. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, sit on his lap and see if he goes for it. Next question. Hello, Miss and Mrs. Scare Podcast. I could use a little advice. I'm sort of lost right now. I'm not sure what to do. I've known this girl. Let's call her Beth since I was nine. We are both 22 years old now. We started hooking up when we were both about 17. I never wanted
Starting point is 01:01:11 anything serious. We still hook up, but I'm also seeing other people and never felt that serious. Beth always wanted something more. Come to find out. Beth has fucked my dad. Yeah, read that again real slowly. She had sex with my divorced dad after hooking up with me. What the fuck do I do? I'm Esquimobros with my own dad. Please help. Okay, I want to know how he knows this information. Who told him? Beth or dad? Yeah, interesting. How did this come to light? Yeah. If Beth, that's forgivable, that's something a young woman would do. If his dad, then his dad is a gross creepy narcissist scorned by you. Yeah. And so it's happened. If you were both seven in the last like five years or so, it's if it happened after they've been hooking up. So I mean, I don't
Starting point is 01:01:59 know what you can do, I guess. That's a threesome scenario for you. Dad and son Eiffel Towering. You don't see that in porn as much as you see the mommy, mommy, daughter trope. Yeah, I don't think. Because I think so much porn is about like the POV of the man watching it. You don't want to fuck somebody. Son, I'm going to teach you how to fuck. I guess. Yeah, I mean, she sounds like she really likes your family. I know. I mean, it seems like, okay, it seems like your dad likes her, so you don't have to worry about that. No, it seems like you're taking it pretty well and you've grappled with it and there's really no question unless you're like asking. Well, it sounds like he actually is taking it more seriously than he thinks and he's asking for like tacit consent to
Starting point is 01:02:48 date this bet. That's my hunch in which hats off to Beth for the 40 chest. She sounds fat. She fucked a dad and his son. But yeah, she, you know, if you want to date her, nothing wrong with that. It's probably going to be awkward with your dad, but she seems to really like the men in your family. So yeah, you can get past it. Yeah. Okay, from demon souls, horny retard seeks advice. Hello, Anna and Dasha. I'm 22 years old. Recently while bored in horny, I set my age preference on Tinder for only older women 40 plus. I matched with an Asian woman who I will call Jane. What's up with all these obviously fake names? Jane is in her late 40s and from China. But living here in the States now, we started texting for a few days when she revealed to me
Starting point is 01:03:40 that she was still married and her husband was in China, mostly for business and also COVID keeping him there. According to her, their relationship has been loveless for several years and they have one daughter around my age. No sex, cuddling kisses, any sort of warmness whatsoever. She said she would divorce him, but there's a huge stigma for that in her culture. After meeting once in public for a date, we're now going to be meeting up in a local hotel I booked for the night. We've made our intentions very clear. My question is, is what I'm doing morally wrong or should I even care regardless? I'm obviously just horny and can clearly see that she has been deprived from any sort of emotional and physical affection for years. I'm 99% sure I won't feel guilty after this,
Starting point is 01:04:22 but should I? No, no, you're not doing anything morally fine. Shouldn't give a shit. All both your cards are out on the table. Yeah, just two consenting adults, one of whom is old enough to be the mother of the other is grooming big time just kidding. It sounds fine. Yeah, husband in China can't get divorced, cultural relativism. I don't buy the husband in China narrative, but I'm really, I think that she, I mean, also be prepared that this is a totally weird fake yarn, but also who cares? Why do you suspect that there's no husband in China? I don't know, just something again, just my little spidey sense, but it could, but I could be totally wrong, by the way. Either way, it's not a big deal. It doesn't seem like something a Chinese person would do.
Starting point is 01:05:11 No, no, it's not, it's not a Chinese thing. It's just like, what? I don't know. It's just like a weird, I don't know. I guess if I was a, it's weird to be alone and as a Chinese immigrant without your husband, but I can understand that there would be extenuating circumstances. Yeah, and weird to go for like, I'm guessing a 22 year old white guy, I'm guessing that's what he is, but I don't know. I don't, I see nothing wrong with it. Yeah, it seems fine. It's not morally reprehensible. Whatever. Cool. Hi, ladies. So my problem is that all of my boyfriend's friends want to fuck me, all of them. And it's not really a problem because, you know, can't fix my sex appeal and I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:05:58 But, and we have an open relationship, but it's kind of like a no-no to do it with friends. And, but there's only really one I would and it's his ex-partner of 11 years. He's just this gorgeous little thing. So I want to know, should I just go ahead and do it and just deal with it or should, or would the tension just be better by itself and I can just live enough forever? Let me know. Don't fuck your boyfriend's ex of 11 years. That sounds like soft sabotage. Yeah, do not do it. And why are you so sure everyone wants to fuck you? I know, you know, someone sounds very narcissistic. You should not. I love the depraved homosexual. You're in an open relationship, so you can fuck other people. You don't have to fuck within your
Starting point is 01:06:56 close-knit friend group, especially your boyfriend's ex. It sounds like you're just asking for trouble. Yeah, I think he's asking for trouble and has a Freudian fixation on this ex-boyfriend of his boyfriend because it's going to really rock the boat. I wouldn't do it, but, you know, we can't tell you what to do and my suspicion is the more that we do, you will do the opposite. Sounds like you've made up your mind. My girlfriend is funny and smart and easy to be around, but also sort of basic. She loves Hamilton and Hillary Clinton and Taylor Swift's boring album. Sex with her isn't bad, but also isn't especially exciting or fun. I feel like I've wandered into a norm-core relationship that makes me happy, but also kind of bored and
Starting point is 01:07:35 de-sexualized. Do I accept that this is what a healthy long-term relationship might look like for me and ignore my itch to have more fun, or do I bail? Or do I stay in for the comfort and just cheat on her when I get bored? Thanks. It sounds like you don't respect her for starters. Yeah, you should bail. It sounds like she's not the right person for you. Yeah, she seems like actually a nice and normal person. It's a recipe for disaster when people couple up according to political interests, but he just sounds like he doesn't like her that much and he's rationalizing and grasping for reasons. I think it's not the Hamilton and Hillary Clinton and Taylor Swift stuff that's bad, which it is admittedly pretty bad,
Starting point is 01:08:22 but it's the fact that sex isn't fun or exciting. Yeah, it sounds like you're not compatible on a lot of levels and that maybe you're probably both making some compromises, so it's better to trust your intuition and bail. When I originally read that question, I only read the Hillary part, and I was like, what an asshole, and then now after reading that. I think also the longer you drag it out, the worse it'll be in the end. Yeah, you may as well. You have a hunch about it, and you know what we're going to say. Yeah, she deserves a nice, normie boyfriend who likes Hamilton with her. Totally. Gets her the ticks to Hamilton. Hi, girls. A few months ago, my fiancé cheated on me. We broke up. Heartbroken is an understatement. Shortly after this, a gay friend
Starting point is 01:09:09 of mine invited me out for drinks. We got very drunk and he told me he couldn't believe my ex cheated on me. How hot he thinks I am and how if I were a gay guy, I'd clean up on the gay scene. Long story short, he crashed at mine that night and offered to blow me, so I let him. I'm not gay or bi. It just felt good to have someone lusting after me with such passion, especially because my self-esteem has recently been shot to shit. In a nutshell, I let a gay friend fawn over me and blow me because I like the attention. I now feel horrible for potentially leaving him on. I'm not really into him or men in general. How should I deal with this moving forward? We're hanging out again next week. Are you sure about that? I don't think you're leading him on. Yeah, I think you
Starting point is 01:09:50 guys like to suck off straight guys sometimes and it sounds like you both had a nice time. I think this is a win-win situation. I wouldn't do it again if you are living with this level of discomfort about it. If you do do it again, I might maybe consider the fact that you are bisexual, but one blowjob from a fawning gay is not a homosexual make. It's not a gay man equal. I'd maybe talk about it with him. If he brings it up, you think he should let him bring it up. If he starts getting touchy, if the evening is going normally and you're just chummy, then I would leave it. I would agree with that. A good chance that the gay guy knows what's up and knows it was a one-off thing and will probably not pursue the matter further.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Right. Gay guys are pretty emotionally intelligent and intuitive. It sounds like he's already gotten what he wanted to suck your dick. Win-win. Awesome. A voicemail. Hi, Dasha. Hi, Anna. My name is Fletcher. I listen to the podcast. I'm an ex-comboy and I'm a refugee. I just was curious what advice you guys would give to young boys who think Dasha is smart sometimes but is pretty overall stupid. How would I find a girlfriend that's like Dasha, I guess, is the question I'm asking. And I want to know if Dasha recommends Kalanathan for her younger listeners. All right. I hope you guys use this question.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Bye-bye. I love you too, Anna. Sorry, I didn't mention you too much. Is this Adam? What is Fletcher a refugee from, like Nick Mullins' rock hard greasy abs? I think Fletcher. Fletcher. Okay. First of all, there are no girlfriends like Dasha. Yeah. She's one of a kind. So I don't know. If you want to find a dumbass art hoe, that's not too hard. Yeah. If that's your insinuating. I would maybe, I don't know, when you get the opportunity to maybe go out to some art shows again or maybe some kind of poetry reading or maybe you could join some kind of Lacanian reading group that's where girls like me usually tend to congregate.
Starting point is 01:13:08 But barring all of these alternatives because that's not happening anytime in the near future. No. Right. I just, I think, like even though I have no dog in the fight and this is not my area of expertise, I think that he should go on Instagram, find girls who are actively emulating you and go down the Rolodex and DM them. Yeah. Instagram or Twitter. It'll be fun and funny. You know who I'm, yeah. There's a lot of e-girls sort of emulating my voice who probably have kind of similar personalities. Yeah. Probably similar sets of, maybe younger than me would have similar kind of struggles that I've had in my life who are crying out for love and attention online. So it shouldn't really be too hard. And no, I would not recommend Clonopin. I got very
Starting point is 01:13:54 addicted to Clonopin in my early twenties for like, and lost like a good 10 months of my life. So I'd stick to kind of, if you wanted to get a Benzo prescription, I would stick to something like out of AndersonX and keep it to, you know, every other day, maybe three days, three days a week max, I'd say, for, for Benzos. With the slippery slope. It's a, the transcript says, Tasha recommends Callentan. Yeah. Good luck getting a girlfriend. Fletcher is a cool name. Yeah. It sounds waspy. A comboy came up to me at Tompkins the other day, like yesterday, or the day before.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I was sitting at a bench because I was buying a Red Scare ISIS shirt off of one of our redditors actually. Because I lost mine when I was drunk. And they posted on the subreddit that they were selling it. And I was like, I'll buy it. And so I was meeting up with someone off the internet. And a guy who wasn't him came up to me and was like, are you Dasha? And I was like, yeah. And then he went, I listened to your ex. And like, he was about to say podcast, ex-boyfriend's podcast. And he realized as he was saying it that he had no reason to be talking to me or bringing it up. It was a completely inappropriate thing to say. And then he got really flinchy and kind of scampered off pretty quickly. So you must get this a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Left really, really fast. And I felt bad for him because he seems like he probably was embarrassed about. Yeah, you're an okay guy. Come boy. Hey, don't don't beat yourself up too bad about the faux paw. But in the future, if someone sees me, and they listen to come town, just walk on by. Hi, Dasha and Anna, my boyfriend wants me to shave my armpits. Should I do it? Why do guys hate body hair? Thanks love the pod. A lot of guys love body hair. Yeah. Don't do it. I think that's a weird thing for your boyfriend to ask you to do. And maybe you should kind of tell him that you're going for more of a French aesthetic. That's actually sophisticated. That's how you're going to win him over and cool. And yeah, just kind of shame him for being unsophisticated, shame him
Starting point is 01:16:36 for being unfeminist and not an ally. And then he'll break up with you. And I generally my advice would differ. I generally do anything cosmetic that my boyfriend's asked me to do. Like, if they want me to like shave my bush or my pits, I just do it. It's fine. I won't get hard fake tits for a man, but something simple like that. What if I wanted you to dye her blonde or something? I wouldn't do that. Like, because that would be like kind of like going against, you know, it would be like violating my identity as a brunette or something like that. But yeah, well, my big thing, I I shave my underarms pretty infrequently. But that's because I'm Slavic. So my hair grows pretty fast. And it's actually I find it preferable to have like my armpit hair kind of in a and it's
Starting point is 01:17:36 pretty fine and soft. Actually, it just grows pretty fast. So I shave it like when it gets too long or like, but mostly I like to have it kind of in an in between state rather than like have razor burn or stubble or something. Yeah, I'd rather have like soft hair under my arms than like stubble. Yeah. So that's really my it's not it's not like a feminist thing. It's really an aesthetic preference. Yeah. So if my boyfriend asked me to shave my underarms, I would kind of feel like, I mean, I would do it maybe for fun, but I wouldn't make a habit out of it because it's what works for my body. Okay, my body, my choice. Her boyfriend sounds like he's probably like an elder millennial or Gen X, because millennial and zoomer guys don't really care about,
Starting point is 01:18:26 I think it just depends. He's not very old. Once again, he's not very sophisticated. Okay. I have leftist views. When I date leftist women, how long should I wait before I show them my arsenal? This isn't euphemistic. I have like five guns, and I don't want to be judged health. P.S. I live in Richmond, Virginia. It's a college town, but it's technically the south if that matters. Thanks y'all. Chicks get wet when you have guns, especially leftist chicks. Whole and self denial. Absolutely. Nothing to be scared of. How are you going to own guns and be scared of what women think? Exactly. Tell her you're like a Brace Belden type with radical ideations and you have the guns for the proletariat revolution you hope to lead one day.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Yeah. You're going to need those guns when class war breaks out. Wow. Oh, he's going to need them when Derek Chauvan goes on trial. The cop that killed George Floyd, there's going to be a whole shit show. So it's good that you're stockpiling guns. It's probably the wise thing to do. Do you see Joe Card, Sarnayov, got demoted from the death penalty? Yeah. That's very good news. Yeah. Yeah. My personal preference is that I find him to be like so cute and familiar because he's from the Caucasus and I feel bad that he didn't, but he did a really horrible thing against the
Starting point is 01:20:00 death penalty. But I think he was, he wasn't a minor. He was like 18 or something. Yeah, he was a college age. But his older brother seemed to be the more kind of radical one who masterminded the attack and he seemed to be somewhat unwitting participants. Which is arguably worse, but no, I'm kidding. But I do watch periodically, I watch the Tamer Lines Sarnayov YouTube where he's doing all the different accents of the Caucasus in Russian. He's really talented. I'm like, dude, you could have done stand up. You don't have to blow a bunch of people up in a marathon. Too bad. I don't think Joker should be like free necessarily, but I definitely, when he got the death penalty, I was kind of like, it seems like,
Starting point is 01:20:45 well, he had a whole like fan girl. Yeah, he's very, very cute. There's girls all over like who's like Tumblr is big back then. And yeah, he was on the cover of Rolling Stone. Oh yeah, I remember that. The cutest boy on death row. He was like looking like one of the strokes. Yeah. Yeah. The Julian Casablanca's of domestic terrorism. Okay. Hi. I just wanted to ask what do you think about men who stutter? Have you ever been with one? What are your thoughts about it? Anything like that? Thanks. Bye. I think it's hot. Yeah, it's hot. I would, I would, I have never been with a man who stutters, but I would date one if he was a nice guy and I liked him. Yeah, I think I would even find it to
Starting point is 01:21:41 be highly endearing and charming, actually, like, like a limper. Any other kind of like, been relatively benign disability, I think can be very hot, like a cool scar. Yeah. You know, awesome, a little autism. Yeah, it's gonna be quite cute. So spectrum. Yeah, I think or a mystery. What we like is very mysterious. Like, they're like, you know, the town fucking crackhead who has like needle scars all over his body and like a face tattoo will have chicks lined up around the block like a sample sale. But then some Patrick Bateman dude who's been like, working at a bank his whole life will have zero tang. I don't know. It really it's not women are mysterious. But I think I guess the one thing with me is that I get frustrated when people talk slowly sometimes. I know that I'm
Starting point is 01:22:42 not really willing to talk but inner personally, it might be good for me to date a guy with a stutter because I'd have to sort of, it would make me maybe a more patient, understanding person. And I'm quite loving. So I think you can overcome a stutter. Yeah, I think you can. But I just like guys who are like honest, if you have a stutter, wear it loud and proud. Yeah, fine. Hi, ladies. I'm a 22 year old, moderately attractive six out of 10 gay man. I've always thought pussy was really gross. But I've noticed whamen flirting with me at parties at work. And I'm kind of curious what it feels like to fuck a pussy. Should I not cut it off next time this happens? Assuming core ever ends and see if I can smash or would that be cruelly leading a woman
Starting point is 01:23:37 on? Thanks for the advice. You guys are the best. Sincerely, potentially bisexual. I don't think it's leading a woman on any more than just a straight guy. Having sex. Seeing what her pussy feels like. I'm often very interested if gay guys have ever had sex with women. It's a question. I think I have spent more on the part you'd ever fucked a girl. Literally stopping every gay guy you see in the street. Yeah, you fucked a girl. Would you like to? Because I'm interested. Yeah, I think you should definitely try it. Try everything once. No skin off your dick. Actually, maybe. Give it a shot. He like raw dogs a girl and gets HIV. Yeah, I think it's totally fine. He seems like he's making more of it than it needs to be. Just try it out. Women are liberated and no strings these
Starting point is 01:24:34 days. I think I'd love to fuck a gay guy. Yeah, first, in fact, I love my pussy so tight, it's like an asshole. Okay, I'm a 31 year old second gen Afghan girl in the UK. At the beginning of lockdown, I dumped my British boyfriend of six years for a 23 year old hottie from a village in Afghanistan who literally split into my DMs on Insta. I'd never encountered such a beautiful soul. I was smitten and immediately left my ex on his birthday. Obviously, I've never met my new bow, but things have already become steamy on Skype. We plan to meet as soon as we can. Is this fate and true love or am I simply reacting to the pandemic by seeking the security of a tribal connection in native language? Is there such a thing as a genetic memory? And are we simply at
Starting point is 01:25:27 the whim of ancestral decisions? Also slightly concerned, the MI5, the CIA are watching me, have cyber sex due to the unusual Skype channel. Should I just marry the village hottie? It sounds like she's getting catfished. Why? Do they have Instagram and Skype in Afghanistan? I mean, there's something. You think he's not really in Afghanistan? They do have Skype in Afghanistan, Anna. It's not. Also, it's weird. I don't know if this is related to the meeting this guy, but it's weird to dump a guy on his birthday. Yeah. Well, she's also 31 in the Afghanistan. Okay, marry Kayla Turner now is 23. Well, you know, I mean, it sounds maybe yeah, like she did kind of have some existential
Starting point is 01:26:19 panic that caused her to seek out a connection with someone she felt more of an ancestral tribal bond with. I don't think she's necessarily getting catfished if they're Skyping. Yeah, maybe. Then maybe it's just one of the train of recruit her. I think like you have to, I mean, okay, just like you have to meet this guy and see if you actually have a connection. If he's real, you have to like suss it out. So I don't, yeah, I can't tell you to lock it down with this dude, but it sounds like you have an okay thing going. But I would keep in mind, I mean, the for the last last line we did was an early core. And I think I said something to the effect of like, under the existential pressures of a global pandemic. It is important
Starting point is 01:27:18 to still kind of be vigilant about one's motivations. And now that we're a few months into it, I think we've seen what relationships have like stood the test of core and which ones haven't. Clearly, you weren't meant to be with your boyfriend six years prior once the, you know, the pressure was really on. It's really an accelerant. Yeah. But it doesn't mean that whatever feelings you've projected onto this guy that's slid into your DMs are, as I said earlier, more true because they're more intense. You know, it could just be kind of, I mean, I think there is such a thing as like, I don't know, I wouldn't call it genetic memory, but there's a certain like tribal native familiarity talking with people who are from
Starting point is 01:28:08 the same background and culture as you, especially if you're an immigrant, you're like reaching out for similar people. That's sort of inevitable. Does it make it's relatable? It's relatable. It's a good foundation. I think it's neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition for like a solid relationship. No, but it helps. It helps. I mean, it helps. In a way during quarantine for my boyfriend to be Ukrainian, you know, we had the kind of a immigrant foundation understanding, especially in kind of a heightened survival mode kind of way. Yeah. You really, you had the same culinary palate. Yeah. Yeah, sort of like division of gendered labor kind of values. And maybe there is something to
Starting point is 01:29:12 genetic memory or maybe something more like repeating epigenetic traumas. I've considered this about you and Eli actually potentially moving to California as being maybe connected to revisiting the trauma of your parents immigrating. Oh, yeah. Not as extremely, you know, but like, has that occurred to you? Yeah. Well, I have this kind of, yeah, I've thought about it because I'm like a very kind of noncommittal person. I still like live out of a suitcase because that's how my family lived. And I've talked about it with this Russian guy that I used to see and, you know, he literally went back to Europe to, because of his weird immigrant trauma, and I can totally see how I'm
Starting point is 01:30:14 going west or whatever. Becoming more American. It's a big move. You've spent most of your life, your entire life on the East Coast. Yeah. I'm an East, I mean, I'm mostly appeasing Eli, but okay. You'll like it in Cali or Armenian. Yeah, it'll be fun. He's just fulfilling his destiny of becoming like an industry too. I was like, yeah, sure. Okay. Can't fight it. Also, New York sucks right now. That's the main, it's like all of the allure has sort of gone. Anyway. Hi, I'm Natasha. I'm 28 and I've always had more guy friends and girls. I've had a few intense female friendships in the past that have all ended in emotional fallout. I'm happily married, but often feel lonely, like I'm missing out by not having any close female friends.
Starting point is 01:31:05 I'm intellectually inclined and a poly of fans, but a lot of women I've talked to don't agree with my views. Any advice? By the way, I'm the type four on the immigrant test. Love the pod. I like how she read it off. So like eagerly enthusiastically off the paper. I mean, you're married already. Yeah, I think that's the biggest impediment. You're not going to have them anymore meaningful friendships, unfortunately. And you're a type four. So you probably like feeling special amongst your and a little misunderstood and misunderstood by women. So sounds like you're on on brand. What's the question? She wants more female friends. Is she missing out by not having close friends? Definitely. But at this juncture,
Starting point is 01:32:04 you probably you could, I don't know. I don't know. I have a lot of female friends and I value them deeply. Yeah, I'm like mixed bag, but it's definitely I mean, men and women can obviously be friends, but there's nothing really that beats like the homosocial bond of the same sex friendship. You'll never be fully like understood by your male friends. Yeah, that you would be by girls. I mean, it's worth trying to find giving it a shot. Yeah, like literally joining some sort of like, I don't know, I'm sure they have like zoom meetups and reading groups and stuff like that. You can join like the Polyo zoom. Yeah, reading group. Next question is cheating forgivable. By the way, thanks for the retarded girl
Starting point is 01:33:01 representation. No problem. It depends. Yeah, it depends on the person in the situation depends on yeah, why they did it. Sometimes people do it because something's missing in their relationship. Sometimes they do it to get out of a relationship. Sometimes they do it. I mean, people, unless they're total sociopaths, barely do it to hurt their partner. Yeah, or punish them. But I think, yeah, obviously, kind of a one night stand is more forgivable than a full blown affair. Right. But by that measure, like an emotional affair, maybe is even more less forgivable than a one night stand. What would you prefer? Like if there was a hypothetical situation where your boyfriend had to cheat on you, you would of course take the one night stand
Starting point is 01:33:56 with some forgettable girl over like a drawn out emotional relationship with somebody who you never had sex with. Yes, definitely. I'd rather him consummate the desire than exist in some kind of prolonged desiring state. Yeah. And I think like, weakness is forgivable in a man like if he's like on tour, for example, or, right, that's much less of a betrayal. Yeah, it's not really in my mind. It's not like, I mean, it sucks. And ideally he wouldn't do it, but it's not nearly as bad of a betrayal as like having an emotional affair with some groupie or like banging your best friend. I've never been cheated on as far as I know. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Yeah, it's hard to say how I would react. But I do think I do value loyalty. So it might, I think it would be difficult for me to forgive. Yeah. And that we would probably have to do couples counseling or something because I think it would even if I sure yeah, even if I tried to forgive, I think there would be a lot of lingering kind of resentments. And I would feel some of my like more punishing tendencies come to the surface. Yeah. So I think it's definitely forgivable, but it takes takes work. Yeah, I yeah, I commend my boyfriends because I don't I also have not been cheated on to the best of my knowledge. So either I haven't been cheated on and have picked unusually loyal boyfriends or they did a really
Starting point is 01:35:29 good job of hiding it, which is also my preference to be just not to find out completely honest. But as someone who has cheated, I usually I've always done it kind of to either get exit a relationship or yeah, because it was with someone I didn't want to, you know, I've never cheated on someone when our relationship was good. Like in the middle. Yeah, I had randomly horny or something. I but women are different. Yeah, I think women use cheating to get out of a relationship like every single time every single relationship of mine I've cheated to get out of it. Yeah, it was like I've done something unforgivable and now sometimes you have to do something unforgivable to go on living. Yeah, and it was actually fine
Starting point is 01:36:17 because half the time it was mutual. Exactly. Should we wrap it up? Maybe let's do another one more voicemail. Yeah, what's a good one? Oh, that's maybe the only fans one. Yeah, let's roll the only fans footage and strong. Hey girls, so I recently started an only fan, which I know like you're not that into it, but I need a fight. So like, okay, the first thing is I look really young. I'm like 411. I like 90 pounds. I have a baby face. And like, I didn't want it to be like this. But I figured out that basically guys want me to act really young because of how I look. And that's all my fans. And I kind of leaned into that. And I feel a little bit weird about it because I don't just
Starting point is 01:37:29 mean it's like age play or whatever. I have to be like, oh, my 12 year old pussy feels funny and stuff. And like, I guess I have like a ethical dilemma. So yeah, thanks. Yeah, my ethical dilemma. She really has an ethical dilemma. No, and I don't buy that she didn't want. I didn't want it to be like that. Yeah, I'm not buying it, sweetie. Okay, if guys are using of age only fans, girls to get out the lead on their pedophilia fantasies, then I'm okay with that. I suspect that's not how it goes. And they still become pedophiles in the end. You think? Yeah, I mean, like if they if they can get much pornography is pedophilically oriented. Well, you know, like child porn production is way up under COVID
Starting point is 01:38:31 because people are like literally in homes with children. It's like a really scary horrifying statistic. Yeah. Good God. I don't I but I don't think I don't agree with white that it's there's necessarily a connotation between real pedophilia and kind of using of age person as a proxy for pedophilia. No, no, no, I don't think it's one to one. But if guys are like getting off on her being 12 years old in a show that's maybe a little sketchy, I don't know. It's definitely sketchy. But you know, who am I to police people's like legal kind of fantasy escapes? You know, I don't you know, in Japan, they have like CGI child porn. And I don't think that there's necessarily a link between consuming that and like acting on it. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:39:31 maybe not. But desires. I don't buy that she's really broken up about this ethically. No, sounds like she's fine. Securing the bag. Yeah. And she knows I mean, yeah, you're not an idiot. You know what you look like and why men are attracted to you. She gives a list of I'm 411 and I'm 90s, 60s, babyface. Oh, God, she knows what she's doing. She knows what she's doing and she's making money. And that's I mean, I've definitely like, when I was younger, but not much younger, I've definitely like had sex with guys and been like, yeah, I'm only 14. You know, I've definitely done that age when you were 15, you were having I mean, I've definitely done age play, which I don't think would surprise anyone, but I don't. And I didn't feel an ethical kind of dilemma about it because
Starting point is 01:40:35 it seemed to be taking it seems to be kind of a mutual, I don't know, I'm not a pedophile for the record. I don't have had a few like urges. It's about like, I mean, it's different on only fans too. I don't know. It sounds like you don't feel that bad about it. I think we've been talking a lot about abolishing TikTok and we really need to abolish only fans. That's what I mean, damn, 18 years old on only fans. Damn, bitch, for those are only plans. I don't know how old you are. You're probably pretty young. Yeah, sounds like there's not really a dilemma to be addressed. It sounds like I gotta say my new rule for like these love lines is leave the voicemails under a minute long and make sure you have an actual question before you ask it. Yeah, let's let's cap them at
Starting point is 01:41:38 a minute because a lot of you take a really long time to spit it out. All right, I think that's that. We've been yapping for a while. See you now. See you in hell. See you on only fans.

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