Red Scare - Megaflopolis
Episode Date: October 9, 2024The ladies discuss the Eric Adams indictment and the Vance/Walz VP debate and review Megalopolis....
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We're back.
We're back.
I'm honestly like in a daze from menstrual cramps.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
I'm on day one of my period.
Day three over here.
Nice.
We're sinking.
That's good.
The most synced podcast. I had a pretty rough
luteal phase this month. Real red scare hours. Scared of myself, to be honest. Scared of
what I'm capable of. Menstrual seclusion isn't going too well.
I was pretty, I spent a lot of today like, yeah,
like gathering my strength.
How's the mood?
The mood's better.
It was really, really bad prior.
And then you get your period, you're like,
ah, yeah, I was like, oh yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, I was like
Every month women being a woman I know it's so it sucks
And then I like I'll be such a bitch to my boyfriend and then I get my period. I'm like
Docile and scared because I'm like in pain and wanna hide and stuff.
And I get really nice.
Yeah, and you like want him to comfort you,
and resent him.
Once I'm into my period, I'm way more.
It's fine, yeah.
It's the-
You wake up on day two or three,
you feel skinny and ready to take on the world.
It's crazy.
But yeah, the blind sides of every month.
And no, every month I'm like,
I'm finally gonna go through with it.
I'm gonna detonate the vest.
Yeah, I can't go on like that.
You guys are gonna be sorry.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, she died as she lived, getting clowned on by leftists.
Getting clowned on by Azalea Banks.
Can I just say, I don't want to really address it, but it is my...
I'm scared of black people laughing at me and calling me a riseless insult and stuff.
Like that is, I'm not even racist.
I am scared of black people laughing at me
and saying I'm bad at sex or, you know.
Like an autistic squirrely loser or something, you know?
So I was like, oh no.
I was like, it's finally happening.
It's like it triggers something in you, yeah.
I'm just scared of Geminis.
Amen.
I think Azalea's a brilliant, beautiful woman.
Yeah.
And I wish her the best.
I want her to win, but man, that takes me back
to being raised by a Gemini mom real hard.
Yeah.
Cowering in the tiny chair like Shinji.
Nice.
The fucking one day I log off.
You weren't online that day?
No, not at all.
I went to a nice family dinner with Eli and the baby
in Little Ili.
I had also a very, I went to the young professional,
young Catholic professionals gala with Salome.
Like beautiful, peaceful day.
And then I came home. Just going about your business.
Went on my phone at night,
about to retire and was like. Fuck, fuck.
I'm like, why the fuck are you sending this to me, Perry Abbasi?
Someone's saying I don't know how to get the back shots. I know. Which of course I do. I think you
handled it well. Well because yeah, I don't want to to be a position where I'm like, I do swallow the
low.
No, I'm sexually active, you know, like that's you've already lost.
Uh huh.
That's very I have had sex.
Yeah. My heart's palpitating. I feel like I took some adderall just by thinking about I purged
that incident from my mind when I fired off a bunch of like unrelated tweets.
No, yeah, Barry. No, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to, I just came to mind. I for, you know.
No, you had like the best possible response.
I chose not to respond at all because I'm almost 40
and a mother can't be going on the computer like,
I am the throat goat.
My voice is like cracking.
I just, I do wanna clarify that I haven't given a hand job in like over a decade
because who gives hand jobs? I do. I have. We all have. It also brought me back to like the early
days of the pod when we were much more crass and vulgar and like my mom would call me up and be
like well let's
see you girls are doing so great i'm so proud of what you and Dasha have accomplished in such a
short time but why do you have to talk about dick sucking what's wrong with you
we still do some blue humor yeah and now and then but yeah yeah, I think we were nervous.
We were deflecting.
Yeah.
Being vulgar, like call her daddy.
Or Madonna.
Everyone's scared of black people
and getting roasted by them.
It's real, I was like, no.
And as a- No.
As like a famous black person, you have to know
and you have to not feel so great about the fact
that people walk on eggshells around you because everyone's too scared to clap back.
Yeah, same. I mean, I'm definitely scared. I'm shaking like a leaf.
We're going to review Megalopolis.
More like Megaflopolis.
Nice, yeah.
But it does kind of dovetail nicely
with the Eric Adams business.
Black mayor.
And the shady advanced Tim Walls VP debate.
Yeah, it's actually.
I frankly don't remember either of those, but.
I thought the debate was entertaining.
Yeah.
Vance really locked in.
Yeah, he really won that thing.
Yeah, the Yale really jumped out.
He carried it.
Yale-y.
And I was like energized.
He was giving and serving IV.
I was pumped.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was serving Dasha at the Yale today.
He was being coquettish.
He was being coquettish looking at the camera.
I want to see him in a cable knit sweater. He was being coquettish looking at the camera.
I wanna see him in a cable knit sweater.
Oh yeah, I wanna see him just look like an anime character.
I thought Usha looked great in her little maroon getup.
Indian girls love jumpsuits and they love jewel tones.
Oh yeah, well they look great in the, a nice marigold.
She just like me for real, she like dyed her roots
for the event.
Fresh.
I didn't really catch her, but I believe.
It was all the way at the end and I was like,
who's that girl with the nice body and the skinny arms?
And it was Usha Vance.
Cool.
Lighting it up like Diwali.
I guess there's.
I think it was Diwali recently.
I always get that in my-
It was like six months ago.
No, dude.
I don't know.
I don't know if Diwali is like one of those cyclical things
or if it's like on a stable calendar.
But yeah, I noticed that even like Vance's
biggest enemies
had to admit, acknowledge that he really nailed it
like David Frum and David French and all those guys.
I mean, the optics were undeniable,
which is most of winning a debate is just the side by side.
All the hoes were saying he was weird
and now they're saying he's hot.
He did, yeah.
I was like, God, I hate women.
Like, can you ladies not make it about sex for once?
Like, you don't have to fall in love with every single guy
who demonstrates basic competence and intelligence.
I know we ladies love a man with a high IQ,
but come on now.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I've found his like,
coquettish gym from the office-esque side glances.
Yeah.
To be some nice millennial representation.
Yeah.
He was kind of, yeah. Yeah, the age of the elder millennial representation. Yeah. He was kind of, yeah.
Yeah. The, the age of the elder millennial is upon us.
Gen X and shambles and suicide watch
walls look really scared, which may be sad.
Yeah. He looked red faced and panicked. And then I was again, like Anna, you're being such a woman. I saw your tweet and I had the same reaction.
It was like, I almost feel sorry for him.
And people were clowning on me for saying that,
but it's like, I said, I felt sorry for him.
I didn't say I was gonna vote for him.
Yeah.
I'm not a liberal.
I don't like respond to pity.
Of course not.
No, but it's, yeah.
I mean, it just makes me feel like
I do feel bad for him the way I feel bad for Biden. You know the Dems like trot someone out and like just put them in the line of fire like that. And you know as expected this debate was
like a slightly higher IQ more policy focused version of the presidential debate,
which is good.
And I think like what Vance did really well
was that he restored us to the time when debates
were more intellectual and he made people remember that,
which is positive.
And he did that again today in Butler PA at the Trump rally
when he gave a speech, like he's obviously a guy
Who is not as funny or spontaneous as Trump who's like a once-in-a-lifetime
genius
like comedically aesthetically speaking, but he does bring like a more like sober moderate
Articulate vibe to the whole thing and really is, as I said several episodes ago,
like the future of the Republican Party,
which is good.
Yeah.
It's a positive development.
I mean, yeah, he needs to refine
his like improvisational skills,
but he clearly is very well-spoken, very well-prepared.
Yeah, I mean, it does feel like when he's speaking
that he's memorized a speech,
unlike Trump who's always speaking off the cuff.
Yeah, and meandering.
So that's, to me, there's a silver lining in that
because I can't memorize anything for shit
because I have inattentive ADHD much like you
and I'm like completely like-
I'm trying to beat this thing.
Addled by the internet.
So it's nice to see like a person in my age group.
Yeah, not be like a damaged-
Who is like a thorough and articulate, yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, he doesn't seem like an alcoholic.
Yeah, and I also like the thing that he did
where he praised Walls for having
a normal human reaction to things
and for wanting some of the same things
because that made him look classy and elegant.
Yeah, and then it also kind of undermined
the dem strategy of like making Vance
and Trump seem like extreme and weird.
Yeah, yeah.
Cause it's like if Vance is such a like
dangerous incel extremists,
why you guys have so much common ground.
Yeah, and why are you guys shaking hands?
I think they didn't shake hands.
No, like at the end.
Oh, at the end.
When the debate was over,
there was a moment before the
wives took the stage where they were like really cordial and almost congenial. They looked like
they were having a good time chatting, which was also I think positive and uplifting because we're
so used to like having such a polarized and divisive political climate. Well, that I think I would attribute some of it to them.
Midwestern sensibility.
True.
You know, just two nice Midwestern boys seething with rage.
Walls quoting Trump about climate change being a hoax and joking how it'll create
more beachfront properties also played to Trump's advantage because it like affirmed his comedic genius. Yeah
whenever they like remind you of something funny Trump said. Yeah. We clap
and cheer like circus heels. Vance also like committed that massive unforced
error of admitting that he misspoke about the China timeline but he was so
walls yeah. The thing is their names also.
Yeah.
And Colder had that too, where she called him Tim Vance.
Yeah.
Uh, and then said something about the bimbo moderator, but walls and vans do
have unfortunately, like very similar.
Like I do get my wires.
Correct.
Tim walls, Jay Vance.
It's like, it's all been the same like sound.
Yeah, and honestly, when they first appeared
behind the podiums, the podio, whatever,
my first impression was like father and son.
This is like the aristocrats.
And then the moderators were like mother and daughter.
Right.
They looked similarly aged to me.
Yeah, I couldn't tell which one was younger.
But Vance and Walls are both these jolly moon-faced,
but secretly rage issues guys.
Yeah.
I mean, very true.
The most amazing part of the debate was when Vance talked over the female
moderators and had like Jessica Valenti and Ann Applebaum and all these
feminists live towards in a tizzy.
Right.
They really set him up for that with the bimbo moderators.
Yeah.
And he was talking about he was clarifying the legal status
of the Haitian migrants in Springfield.
Was that the idea?
I don't remember.
But you know,
They were doing some nebulous fact checking
and attempting to, which is not,
they should stop doing that.
Yeah, and it's like,
let the lies flow.
But it's like, how do you fact check a debate?
It's like, if one guy says something
that's like patently false,
it's up to his debate opponent to fact check him on that.
Right?
That's like the nature of the debate format.
Unfortunately, like with the state of politics,
I feel like there's so much flagrancy in the, you know,
it's like, it would be hard, I think,
because kind of both sides, the walls really was dropping.
It's like they drop so many lies
that you can't like derail to like debunk every single thing
you say you have to like address kind of like the substance of their claims.
Yeah, but they do literally like bombard you with lies to incapacitate.
I mean, the project 2025 really drives me nuts.
Yeah. And the immigration bill, which they keep bringing up and
their talking points. Yeah. Are really make me feel gaslit.
Yeah. And I was like mildly disappointed in Vance
because he also failed to deliver the kill shot much
like Trump.
But in his case, it didn't really matter as much
because he was so put together and articulate
during the whole thing.
But yeah, and it's like all the femtards
were freaking out about how this is a handmaid's
tale type scenario where men talk over women and mansplain, but it's like you, this is
what equality looks like.
You wanted equal rights and representation.
And you have a mute button.
Yeah.
And they didn't mute him for a while.
Yeah.
They let him go off because they were aware of the entertainment value.
Come on.
Yeah.
And how it would make, he already,
he's trying to beat the misogynist in cell allegations.
Yeah.
So it's like beneficial to the Dems
to let him kind of.
Yeah.
Chimp a little.
Yeah. And I think like walls, it's funny that the whole JD Vance's weird
narrative was allowed to go on for as long as it did,
because if anyone is weird, it's walls.
I mean, he has like the, um,
mouth of a pedophile.
I know, but Walls is, yeah, he's very middle America
in a way that I think is familiar to people.
Yeah, and I was trying to figure out
what about him rubs me the wrong way.
Cause obviously he's like an inveterate Democrat liar
that goes without saying that doesn't bother me so much.
It's just a kind of par for the course, whatever.
And I was thinking like, well, is it his normal guy,
salt of the earth tone that feels so fake?
Like when he's like, oh, shucks, I just have bad grammar
and I'm a knucklehead.
Yeah.
This self-effacing every man thing.
Yeah, and I think his tone is actually
pretty authentic to him it's just that you can tell that underneath his bearing
he doesn't actually believe anything that he's saying. I'm I can't tell
honestly. Yeah it's hard to say I was trying to articulate it for myself.
Cause he might honestly.
Like I'm sure he does think like, you know.
I think like the nicest, most charitable thing
you can say about him is that he believes he believes,
but I wouldn't even go that far.
And that's like the creepy and weird part.
It does, I mean, and like he really let like Minnesota burn,
you know, and you wonder like,
every time I see him I'm like, he's giving Doug Henwood.
Is Doug Henwood a dog?
He's like an OG leftist posting king who's gotta be in his 50s or 60s and he's like
polyamorous.
Right.
Yeah.
I can envision his profile picture.
Yeah, you sure can.
I can see it.
I can see it in my mind.
I have to go to the bathroom.
Oh yeah. I have to go to the bathroom.
I'm back, I'm sorry.
Oh yeah, I wanted to say like the way also
that he handled the abortion and immigration questioning
was really good.
Yeah, like.
Abortion's just, he's in a tough spot.
Yeah, and it was right on the heels of Melania
announcing that she's pro-choice.
Which she's-
Because a woman's greatest freedom is her body.
You know, allegedly, yeah, she espouses
her pro-choice views in her book.
Right.
But the video that she actually posted,
which I've been enjoying a lot of her, um, yeah, her like book,
her memoir promo content, but, um,
she's not really overtly saying that she's,
I don't think she cares and I don't think Trump cares. And like,
I'm sure from should Vance's pro choice. Of course. I mean, come on. I know. But with Vance, it and like, I'm sure Usha Vance is pro-choice. Of course, I mean, come on.
I know, but with Vance, it's like,
yeah, he's just in a jam because he's Catholic.
Yeah, but he's right to point out
that if you wanna minimize abortion,
you have to give people and families.
I know, but that's more options and choices that actually mean something.
I know, but to Walls' credit, he did point out that you can have pro-family policies
and still not have an abortion ban.
Right.
Yeah.
But I think everybody would low-key agree with that, except for Vance, possibly because
he's a Catholic but also
You know, it's like there's not even that much stuff that
Contemporary Catholics
Are like required to believe but being pro-life is sort of like one of the central tenets
And it's just not a viable political
Yeah, I read an essay and it's just not a viable political position.
I read an essay he wrote a few years ago
about his conversion to Catholicism
because yeah, people were in the Catholic community,
texted me both about Vance and the Melania thing,
which yeah, I also saw like Catholics on Twitter being like, she
should be deprived of communion and stuff because she's not, because she's also a Catholic.
It's like she married a twice divorced like Protestant guy.
Like she's obviously's possibly an escort. She's obviously not a trad cat.
Yeah.
You know, she's doing her own thing.
She's a fierce and powerful contemporary woman.
But I saw people treating this like admission promotional material as some kind of like
betrayal of Trump.
It was like a gotcha right like I mean smoking gun like I
think there's no way that like
They didn't that Trump didn't read her memoir or like yeah, no, what's it like I
Don't think she's like gone rogue No, I think it's all you know, pretty strategic.
Yeah, it's like designed to sell her book. Which I pre-ordered months ago. Yeah. And
you haven't gotten it yet. No, I don't think it's out yet. She's going on Fox tomorrow on Sunday to do an interview.
She just like me for real.
She's going on Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy.
And then the immigration point, the way that he handled that was really good because he
failed to or didn't take the moderator's bait about family separation. Oh, yeah.
And he said that like in Kamala's America, 320,000 migrant children are already lost.
They're being like trafficked as slaves or used as drug mules.
And he really like masterfully dodged the trap of explaining how deportations would
be carried out.
Yeah. Which was like the specific question
that they really wanted him to answer
because they wanted him to paint himself into a corner
of cruelty and sadism.
And with the abortion thing he did as well
as he could have as well.
Yeah, and it's like a slippery slope
because if you say that yes, we're gonna deport them all,
then that implies that it's gonna be brutal and
holocaust-like and families will be separated and children will be on their own and da da da and it
like of course that's like not gonna happen i mean it might i mean i saw a twitter buddy of mine
having an interesting conversation about the idea of deportation
and how it needn't be like cruel and sadistic because you just have all you have to do is
basically turn off the spigot turn off the faucet of benefits and give people like a
$500 ticket to go back. It's not like people are going to be rounded up in cattle cars
and like summarily executed and I doubt it'll even ever come to that. Come on. I mean, there probably won't even be
that many deportations. Yeah, they're not going to build the wall. They're not going to really
send them back. Like they're just saying that they might might like a little, but like there's not, it's just no way, come on.
Yeah, but like long story short.
Don't get your hopes up.
He really like evaded all the traps and the bait
that they laid for him.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, even with abortion,
I think it's just, you know, short of saying like,
yeah, I'm pro-life.
Yeah.
He's like Liz Breunig on our pod,
like, yeah, I'm privately pro-life,
but publicly I'm kind of pro-choice.
Or yeah, kick it back to the States.
That seems sound to me.
And then you can always tell, like I really,
I mean everyone does this, but Dems,
especially this election cycle,
have been giving you the harrowing little anecdote,
and saying their name, and telling you some twisted
little tale about a woman bleeding in her car,
driving across state lines. twisted little tale about a woman bleeding in her car or driving a 12 year old who was raped by
they fail to mention a migrant, but
It's just not it's really mmm, I find it like insulting
Yeah, it's like insulting
To the intelligence of the public and to women especially.
But I think I said this already again on a previous episode.
To us, yeah, it feels like baroque and vulgar to go down that road.
But I think like for libs, it's catnip and they really eat it up.
I mean, my honestly, pretty centrist take,
which I've probably tried to articulate before,
but I don't really like,
no one's, I don't really see people saying that,
but it's like, much like birth,
the medicalization of the abortion
is perhaps a little extra.
And like women have sort of self administered abortions
in times of like peril and need.
And they're not, I don't think it's,
obviously there's risks of complication
much like other things that like,
you know, you go to the doctor for ostensibly.
But, and I personally don't know what the methods are,
but you know, if you were in like a red state,
you can definitely go on like some witchcraft Reddit
or something and like find a way to have a board, like.
Yeah, I know I can already see don't know the leftist like piling
on and the subreddit and being like, but that's the whole point that people were dropping
like flies before abortion became like an industrial scale phenomenon. But obviously
like, yeah, we have the like back alley coat hanger associations. But at that point, if
you're, you know, then it probably is a little too late for you to like have the abortion,
you know, but that's what I'm saying.
Early in your pregnancy,
you can probably figure out a way
to make that bang less violent.
I don't endorse this.
I'm just telling it like it is.
Women, you have to hawk to your bleeding fetus.
No, there was that story a while back
that I think we mentioned of this young girl and
her mother who were sentenced to jail time and they frankly got a slap on the wrist because
they were in a red state and they like aborted her fetus and buried it in like a shallow
ditch in the middle of a field somewhere.
And at that point, I think she was like
over 30 weeks pregnant, which is just like bizarre
and monstrous and like an outlier.
Like why would you even wait that long?
I mean, that seems nuts, yeah.
Yeah, and then there was like the story
that was going around recently
of like that beautiful young woman,
which like brought tears to my eyes who died
because she the
Democrats were making it seem like she had like bled out because the health
practitioners refused her medical care because they were worried that it would
be like a legal liability but it turns out that she had gotten sepsis from complications due to the abortion pill.
And she had already come to them in like an extremely sick and dire state and ended up
dying and leaving behind a six year old, which is like really tragic and sad.
And like I feel for her. But as always, these stories are outliers and very often falsified.
Right, or like cherry picked.
I mean, the anecdotal evidence is just, I don't know.
You know, when I was at Yale,
we don't find that kind of thing
like really admissible in the IVD.
Like what's the statistic, like 1% of abortions
in the country or something like that
or like late term abortions?
That sounds about right, I mean.
Like most abortions take place in the first eight weeks
of the pregnancy, like something like 93%.
So it is like monstrous for places such as my home state of New Jersey to have
abortion laws in place that allow you to abort at the bitter end. I don't know if anyone
really makes use of them, but it's like it's the thing that Trump said at some point. I
don't remember where or when he said this but
He made it very clear that he's
for abortion in
Extreme cases where there's like the life of the mother is concerned or
It's a case of like rape or incest or there's some serious congenital deformity Ronald Reagan. Yeah, I believe this
But he's obviously pro-choice broadly.
Like he doesn't admit.
My feeling about it is that like,
we've been over this a million times.
I don't even know if I need to repeat myself,
but like,
especially once you have a child
and you know what that's like,
like you become privately very pro-life.
But you can't like hand people something like abortion and then take it away.
I mean, there's just no viable way for there to be like a full abortion ban.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And I'm not gonna fly. My only point is that it is a tragic ethical concern
anytime it goes down.
Of course.
No, it's a decision that people make
that is an extreme constant.
It's like a matter of life or death.
Truly.
But I can't sit here and tell anyone that I think there should be a nationwide abortion ban,
and you personally can't get an abortion because I changed my mind about it.
an abortion because I changed my mind about it. I mean, I wouldn't either.
And I'm, you know.
It's one of those.
I'm probably more like pro-life
than the average person, but yeah.
So I'm like, I just, the unforeseen consequences
of legislation don't necessarily make like a hard moral rule
to be the best outcome.
Yeah, and it's like, it's one of those annoying,
intractable problems that shouldn't be at the forefront
of a political campaign, but here we are.
It sucks, I hate the abortion debate.
I know.
I wish we could handle it like Europe.
How do they do it?
They love it.
Eight weeks. Yeah. They have way more
stringent abortion laws than we had in the United States. Yeah, but they have
us more of a safety net. Some of them. Yeah, but they require it like after a
certain point they require like a doctor's know a legitimate reason to abort right but up until
then it's on demand no questions asked. I mean yeah I don't know it's I'm not a policy wonk you
know I don't know like I can't really take a hard line,
though maybe Vans I should as, you know,
too coquette Catholic, trad,
and you know, edgelord millennials.
Two anime eyes icons.
He does have insane anime eyes.
Eli actually had a good take on this because he was very like fair weather on Vance up
until he saw the debate.
And he was in his kind of like dumb but profound man way.
He was like, oh yeah, like, I get why people thought Vance was weird.
It's because he has those big beautiful like piercing blue eyes of a Siberian husky that look like he's wearing like eyeliner and mascara and it just looks like uncanny Valley, you know, yeah, the double lash mutation.
He's got his the lashes. He must have been a beautiful baby. What can I say? context of the American political discourse
because he is highly intelligent and articulate,
which you don't really see anymore.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I thought Walls was also, you know,
he wasn't like Kamala, he dealt with things
pretty articulate.
Like that's why it was a good debate
because they both sort of, once they got advanced,
it's impossible to say he didn't win.
But Wallace was, he held his ground, he made good,
it was, yeah, it was a night,
I found the debate enjoyable just because it was sort of,
it felt relatively matched in terms of their preparation.
They matched each other's freak.
And there was decorum, which the Dems loved to claim they were bringing back.
And in that way, well, Vance, Tim Vance was great.
And JD Walls. Well, Vance Vance, Tim Vance was great.
J.D. Walls.
Should we talk about my goal?
Do we want to touch on Eric Adams or is there really nothing to say?
I mean, I was going to, I guess.
Yeah. He I don't know actually what's transpired lately.
But he took bribes from the Turkish government
that weren't even monetary.
It's what I read in the New York Post,
the paper of record.
He got like a shipment of zins or something.
He got some zins, he got some,
he upgraded to business class.
Yeah.
And he got to stay like the four seasons in Istanbul.
They basically gave him like free upgrades
to the Turkish Airlines business class,
which I would do the same thing.
I know.
I would take, I would,
do you guys know how nice business classes?
It's totally worth corruption. Any.
Yeah.
Once you fly business class, you can never go back.
It's a real tragedy.
It's not even about the money.
It's just about sending a message.
Yeah.
And let Eric Adams start a podcast.
Get those perks.
Get those partnerships.
He can run ads.
He's not above that.
My two cents on this is that like every politician,
especially at his level is involved
in some self-dealing and graft.
So why him and why now?
And the speculation was that he came out
against unlimited immigration to New York.
That's why he was targeted. I don't know if that's true he came out against unlimited immigration to New York.
That's why he was targeted.
I don't know if that's true
because if I remember correctly,
he was very wishy washy and mealy-mouthed
about that whole thing.
It's not like he came out full force and was like,
I'm a foundational black American
and I don't want those weird scary Africans up in my city.
He said like a very reasonable and moderate thing, which is like, um, we,
the city is incapable of dealing with the influx and you guys in DC are going
to have to do something about it.
But he wasn't like particularly extreme or dramatic.
I actually found his remarks at the time, I think,
to be like a little disappointing.
So I don't know if that whole story adds up.
I mean, maybe, I don't know.
Yeah, I think it's possible that he was just sort of like
sloppy,
maybe in a way that made it hard to suppress.
When a Jewish guy's the mayor,
he's a little better at the corruption.
You know?
Their networks are a little more,
you know, Turks and a black mayor,
come on, that's just a mess.
My favorite subplot of that is that he had...
They said don't mention the Armenian Holocaust.
They didn't mention the Armenian genocide.
Oh, I keep calling it the Armenian Holocaust.
It is.
But yeah, it was really the first kind of Holocaust,
but then, you know.
Armenians are very fond of reminding the Jews
that Hitler took inspiration from the Turks
and that this was the first industrial scale technologically advanced genocide, which is
probably true. I haven't really looked into it myself, but yeah, that was hilarious that these like Turkish
like consultants and diplomats even had that
at the back of their heads,
like that it would even occur to them
to tell Eric Adams to not mention the Armenian genocide.
Like who cares?
Like what else did he, oh, I guess they let, right.
It was in, there were like some Turkish
like construction interests. I guess they let, right. It was in, there were like some Turkish like construction interests.
I think the embassy, they like, he cleared the way,
he cleared some red tape for them
to like do some construction.
Yeah, but it's like, okay, my feeling about this
is like a politician, because he's a politician,
is entitled to some corruption and bribery as long as the
city that he's in charge of runs well as long as the the streets are clean and
crime-free which like I guess he gave us trash cans but he's not doing too hot
yeah but how I don't know I've struggled I mmm it's hard for me to I know I haven't had strong
feelings about Eric Adams besides sort of enjoying him yeah um but it's hard for me to tell how much
like a mayor can really do you know he's got that bitch Kathy Hoechle yeah that's the thing it's
like if they on his ass they're gonna replace him Yeah, that's the thing. It's like if they remove him,
they're gonna replace him with something
that's so much worse.
It's like, yeah, they got rid of Cuomo
and replaced him with that cunt, Kathy Hochul.
Yeah, exactly.
So.
So yeah, I don't know.
It's hard to say like, oh, this stuff,
like business in the city is bad, it's the mayor's fault.
You know, I feel like the mayor in a lot of ways,
like a scapegoat for it.
Yeah, sure, yeah.
I mean, the best thing that Eric Adams ever did
was that like 2013 video where he was like demonstrating,
had to search your child's room for like drugs and guns
and other contraband.
That was so funny.
I saw like a reaction video by Theo Vaughn and Shane Gillis to it.
And they're both, I guess, like kind of comics, but they were so much
less funny than the original video.
They were just like rephrasing it.
Restating it is extremely funny.
I mean, I love the he's on some talks for talking about how New York is an amazing
city, you anything get happening to see a plane flying into the world. I mean, I love the, he's on some talks for talking about how New York is an amazing city. You, anything can happen.
You can see a plane flying into the World Trade Center
or you can see a small business celebrating.
Uh.
You know, yeah.
And I love in that video where he's like,
look behind the picture frame.
There could be bullet casings as if like the kind of kids
who have guns and drugs in their room
also have like a well stocked bookshelf.
I know.
It's so funny.
The popular knapsack and it's like literally
the most unpopular knapsack that kids definitely knapsack.
It's like a black Roli case that like
chump civil servants take on the
Acela to travel between New York and DC. It's like what I'm going
to be carrying. The kids don't have that. They have like Paw
Patrol and Spider-Man.
Or like Jansport maybe still.
Herschel.
Yeah. Herschel seems kind of...
Fjallraven.
I don't know if the kids are rocking the Fjallraven.
That and Herschel both feel like millennial.
35 year old like low T Google employees. Creative.
Or like the content creator people.
Or like girls who go to Europe. Yeah.
Like NPC checks in Europe with the Fjallraven.
like NPC checks in Europe with the Fjallraven.
But much like Eric Adams, the mayor in Parenzos for Coplos, Megalopoulos is black.
It's literally Gus Spring from Breaking Bad.
Yeah, it's that guy.
And you're like, is he leftist?
Is he conservative?
Wait, I have to pee now,
and then we can get into the megalopolis.
Sounds good.
Oh, Elon.
I love the photo of-
Elon jumping in the air.
Yeah, where he looks like retarded or autistic.
If this fits, he's quite high off the ground.
I was impressed by, I was likeian. I see he wants fuck with
Elon. I'm sorry. I mean, I fuck with the I just I have a realistic I don't know. I don't
dis he rubs me the wrong way. Mostly due to being South African, I think even more than
the autism and stuff.
I mean, he rubs me the wrong way. But I find it in that he's like a corny
and poorly socialized person much as myself.
So I relate to him, but like,
it's nice to see a guy like that winning.
For sure.
No, it's endearing, definitely.
He's not like Trump.
Like Trump is just naturally suave and charismatic.
I know. And like lights up any room. And then Elon is like Trump, like Trump is just naturally suave and charismatic. I know.
And like lights up any room and then Elon is like this, like there was that point during
the rally where he's like, I'm not just MAGA, I'm dark MAGA.
And like no one clapped or cheered.
Well he just, when Anna came back from the bathroom, I showed her a tweet.
He made about an hour ago that said, make America based again.
Yeah. And I'm like, that's, I'm like, that is ende said, Make America Based Again. Yeah.
And I'm like, that's, I'm like, that is endearing.
It is, yeah.
It's nice.
And like the photo of him and Trump in Vance,
or Trump is somehow inexplicably like the shortest guy
because he's like shrunk due to old age.
So cute.
It's very cute.
I like to see, it makes me feel comforted
to see a bunch of like corn-fed
Nice tall white guys just hanging out in charge of the country. I
Mean yeah, I've I really oscillate
Yeah, that's like a the effect. He should have on you. Yeah, I'm like
Yeah, that's like the effect he should have on you. Yeah, I'm like,
when things aren't going well, I'm like,
I do, I hate the cyber truck.
When I see a cyber truck, I'm like, I fucking hate it.
I'm like, you put this eyesore in my line of sight,
this like horrible truck.
Yeah, it's always like some annoying Indian
or Chinese guy driving it.
Most of my issues with him are obviously a static and like the Tesla's I'm warmed to,
but don't love.
Yeah.
I don't like the way if you're like Tesla's not charged enough, it like won't let you
like drives you to a charging station.
It's like the safetyism mechanism that really makes me,
I'm like, I should be allowed to drive my Tesla
into the night and let it die and me as well.
Like I should be able to drive.
I mean, I can't even drive a car, but if I imagine,
if I could, I'd want the freedom to drive it
wherever I want.
Yeah, totally.
Well, it's like when he had the Twitter space with Trump
and he was like, we should have like a committee
of regulating this and that.
Yeah, I mean, it's really,
do we really need more committees?
I mean, it's unfair the way, I mean, I guess not
because he is sort of, I guess he's the richest person
in the whole world and does have this power.
So maybe it's not completely unfair,
but like when the Trump space wasn't working,
I was like, fucking Elon, he messed everything up.
He broke X, he broke, he changed.
I was like, he's, oh, he took away the likes.
Yeah, you know, I'm like,
I hold him like personally responsible.
And I'm like, oh, how could he not have seen this coming?
He's so stupid.
Well, I have to say, I was annoyed
by like the new updated version of X
where like you have to like hover on something
to see the likes and retweets.
And then I was like, wait, no, this is actually good
because like, I shouldn't be looking at that shit anyway.
And it like literally introduces another obstacle
and makes it unenjoyable and inefficient.
So props to him for that.
I mean, props to him in general
for making acts like harder to use.
And more racist.
Shitty, yeah.
And like, he is like accelerating potentially.
It's declined, which would maybe be good for all of us.
Yeah.
I agree.
But Megalopolis.
Oh yeah, Megalopolis.
Also kind of a muskian figure potentially.
Though I'm-
And that he's corny and poorly socialized.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the Adam Driver character.
Okay. So yeah. Megal. Yeah. I'm driver character.
Okay.
So yeah, my goal is a movie by old man named Francis Ford Coppola, who's 120 million dollars
cope a lot, which is really what this movie is about.
I wasn't, I didn't go in necessarily
with high expectations. I'm not a Coppola fan, to be honest.
Am I a fan of Francis Ford Coppola?
I have to ask myself that question.
Like I don't give a shit about the Godfather.
I pretended for like a boyfriend's benefit in the past, but I kind of don't.
I mean, I love Sofia Coppola.
I think she has surpassed her father in talent and taste.
Well, another interesting take that Eli had was that
Magalopolis is Francis Ford Coppola's lost in translation.
And I kind of see where he's going with that.
That's really interesting.
Okay, say more.
So a lot of people were under the impression
that this was gonna be like a right wing dog whistle
of a movie.
It had these like kind of overtly Randian overtones.
The fact that he's a wonder kind architect,
it harkens back to Ayn Rand's Fountainhead.
The kind of-
Haven't read, but I know the vibe,
the utopia, the whatever.
There's a philosophical bend, there's an architect.
Yeah, and like, that's like what I understand the fountainhead.
There was like some random ass like Hitler footage
in the end that was promising.
Did you notice, okay, this is digressing a bit,
and spoiler alert, I guess,
when the mayor's mixed race daughter marries the brilliant architect
fusing the dynasty of their two families together,
there's a celebratory sequence.
And the first thing you see is people lighting
Hanukkah candles.
And I literally, I grabbed my boyfriend.
And then two gay Indian guys.
I grabbed my boyfriend, I was like,
they're all Jewish?
I was like, what is this?
I was like, yeah. And he was like, I think like, I was like, they're all Jewish? I was like, what is this? I was like, yeah.
And he was like, I think it's meant to show
that they're like all celebrating in different ways.
But because it like, before I was like,
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I was like, this whole, it's been Jewish the whole time?
Yeah, yeah.
And Adam Trevor can also control time.
Time.
And some of his mind is very Jewish coded.
And is Jewish coded, yeah.
So I was like, is this, this is- He's like Jason Biggs and is very Jewish coded. Yeah, he's like, yeah.
Is this, this is-
He's like Jason Biggs.
Is that his name?
He's like a guy who's like historically confused
for being Jewish even though he's not.
Jason Biggs leaned into it by like playing a proxy
for Woody Allen in Anything Goes with Christina Fiji.
But people were really, really excited
about how potentially right wing this film would be.
And to me, it was just like kind of a confused
and jumbled centrist clown show
that really was a missed opportunity and didn't.
I wasn't expecting it to be right-wing.
Well, I guess, yeah, because he self-financed
and like casted canceled people, like Shia LaBeouf, I guess,
and like was sort of going outside of the studio system.
He sold his family winery
to make this film and compensate his team,
which I guess is very sweet.
I think it's selfish, but admirable in a tourish way.
I guess.
But yeah, I think the only it's clear.
Yeah, he has gripes about cancel culture.
There's like a me too.
We should get into that.
But there's nothing.
I think, yeah, to me me the film was like pure dementia.
I was like, this is absolutely, this is what Boomer,
it was so senile from the jump and I was like,
oh, this is like, but it did give me insight into, yeah,
how I think Boomer is really too few.
The world. The world, yeah.
And it was. It is. Yeah, and it was, yeah, and like for me,
the more interesting allegory was not the Roman one,
it was the Randian one, obviously,
because there are so many like superficial parallel
similarities to Fountainhead.
Someone said to me that their first reaction was-
What is Fountainhead about?
I will get into that.
Okay, okay.
But somebody said to me, this is not a good movie,
but I can't stop thinking about it,
and I would agree with that.
Same, that stuck with me.
Because, you know, like I said on Twitter,
it's like a testament to like the kind of rantings
and ravings of an old lunatic, basically,
who like his programming hasn't been updated. And he cannot cope with the
contemporary world. And that was like the most interesting part for me about the movie.
But
totally no, he finds like, you know, populist strains of thought to be really like frightening, which I think is true.
Yeah.
Many like affluent boomers.
He's really, the film is really, there is like, he is obsessed with like legacy.
Yeah.
Right?
Because the Copulas are all about like, kind of like institutional nepotism. Yeah. And he has all his like minor Copula nephews and cousins up there.
It's like Talia Shire, Jason Schwartzman.
I think Sophia Copula is like TikTok daughter has a little camera.
Really cute. But he I think he's I mean, there's literally a part where the black mayor is like,
my name is Frank.
the black mayor is like, my name is Frank Francis.
Yeah, and then you're like, he's a total pro, like he thinks he's the black mayor
who likes to do things the old way,
but he's become progressive and he's willing to join forces
to defeat like a kind of like Trumpian street
in contemporary life with like an ultimately more authoritarian,
like progressive is yes.
And he also identifies obviously with the Adam Driver character who's like a
brilliant genius.
But he calls it a fable and it opens up with like the homage to Kubrick 2001,
a space Odyssey with all like the satellites
and in the air.
You know who actually who I saw right after,
who was in the movie theater with me,
was part of the pod, Christian Lorenzen.
Oh, okay.
And he was like, I loved it.
Yeah, he would.
And he brought up something that sort of escaped me
upon my watching of it.
Though I clocked it as being like weird,
but he was like the Soviet satellite
is about how boomers secretly still wanna get
nuked by the Soviets so they can rebuild society
in their own image.
They want the distraught, they want nuclear annihilation.
But the real lesson of this Soviet satellite
is more of like the Lindy man take the history of stuck.
We live in a stuck culture.
So like there are all these like very striking parallels
with Fountainhead, but they're very superficial,
cosmetic, they like don't live up to the hype.
That like powerful cover image of Caesar Catalina played by Adam Driver holding the T-square
that promises a Randian narrative but totally fails to deliver it.
The whole idea of Fountainhead is that it's the story of an original once in a lifetime
genius who is thwarted every step of the way by leftist group think.
Um, and I think a lot of people probably assume that this is what that movie
would be, but it actually to me again, was like a movie that's essentially
about how out of touch our legacy filmmakers are.
Well, they're so old. He's so old.
Does, like we said, it feels senile?
Like it's the rantings and ravings of a confused old man.
It starts off with people utilizing this like Shakespearean dialogue
that then just he abandons basically.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, it still has this very, like, they're kind of like, like,
ragtag kind of gangsters too, with like cocked fedoras,
which is quaint and old fashioned too.
Like the corruption is very like old timey,
but also like a futuristic Roman thing.
Yeah, it's like, well, the city New Rome,
which is like a thinly veiled barely allegory
for New York, Gotham.
The New Rome Times.
It's like a very stylized mashup, you know,
it's like ancient Rome, 1940s, WPA, the New Deal,
Franklin, Delano Roosevelt, Franklin Cicero.
I, um. And then it's mixed also with today's Delano Roosevelt, Franklin Cicero. I.
And then it's mixed also with today's
like vicious cutthroat reality TV America.
And the vision of like contemporary America
that Coppola portrays is basically the America
of like 15, 20 years ago.
Yeah.
I mean. It's like a kind of a mashup of like 15, 20 years ago. Yeah, I mean.
It's like a kind of a mashup of like indie sleaze
and steampunk aesthetics.
The steampunk trappings of course,
rubbed me the wrong way as usual.
And then the styling I found to be very chintzy and bad.
And just like tone deaf and out of touch.
From honestly.
Like it's what Francis Ford Coppola
thinks Dime Square looks like.
There's no way he even knows it. No, no, of course not. But the first thing that I clocked
was the in the opening scene of Adam Driver on the Chrysler. First of all, I'm a big fan of the
Chrysler. I can see the Chrysler. I see the Chrysler building and enjoy it. And this movie sort of
dampened some of my enthusiasm for the Chrysler building and enjoy it. And this movie sort of dampened some of my enthusiasm
for the Chrysler building,
which I won't forgive Francis Ford Coppola for.
But yeah, when he's on the roof doing his time stop thing,
I immediately, it was like his like pristine, stupid boots.
And his weird, ugly, like Topshop top man outfit
that's also like 20 years old,
like a Nehru collar shirt
and like a kind of sateen tuxedo jacket
that just looks bad and un-stylish.
And it looks like something
like a bridge and tunnel person would wear.
All of the extras look like people who work in Flatiron,
like circa 2005.
And also that weird like opening scene
that's like a J Varma COVID orgy,
where again, it's like the misshapes.
What do you mean?
Like it's 2000, which was like the last time
that Coppola was sentient.
It looks like limelight or the tunnel,
like late 90s, early 2000s,
like not even Y2K aesthetics.
No, no, no, way, yeah.
I mean, a lot of nice crown work.
I'll say there was some nice floral crowns.
There were some very memorable cinematic moments
like the time square, time ticking sequence
where the statues crumble in an anamorphic way,
which is almost like a meta reference
to 1940s, 1950s,
noir cinema.
But again-
The scene with Adam Driver like driving
to see his wife's ghost.
Yeah, that's the scene I'm talking about, yeah.
The statues melt, oh, is that one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
But yeah, there were these explicit parallels
with the Fountainhead down to the character,
his love interest, who is this kind of
Meghan Markle-ass mulatta actress.
And she's obviously clearly lifted from Dominique Francon,
who is the love interest of Howard Roark in The Fountainhead.
She's like a nepo baby woman reporter and it's her role throughout the film is very ambiguous.
It's unclear whether she loves him or wants to ruin him or a little bit of both.
And at the very end, they walk into the sunset together, like that sort of thing.
I mean, the whole idea, the basic idea of the fountainhead,
say what you will about Ayn Rand,
but her vision was nothing if not coherent,
like to the point of over explaining
and like connecting the dots.
Well, it's a really big, it's a big book.
Yeah.
You know.
She has a very unambiguous vision of the world
where there is a clear cut distinction
between good and evil.
Good are elitist, entrepreneurial, exceptional individuals
and bad are leftists who worship mediocrity
because they're fueled by jealousy and resentment.
And that's like really the reason that the left hates Ayn Rand who worship mediocrity because they're fueled by jealousy and resentment.
And that's really the reason that the left hates Ayn Rand
because she has clocked them, she has their number.
She's like Azalea Banks.
And they're obviously mad at her
because they're triggered by her.
But anybody who was looking for a fountainhead story arc
from Megalopolis will be sorely disappointed, obviously.
And yeah, sorry, I don't know where I'm going with this.
But it's like.
I mean, right.
Well, I, to be honest,
I've like tried to read Anne Rand in high school.
I read the title, The Virtue of Selfishness,
which sounded good to me as a teenager.
And kind of, you know, I was like, nice.
I was like, okay.
and kind of, you know, I was like, nice. I was like, okay.
And I think, you know, she's, she knows what she's,
you know, the virtues of this.
She knows she's doing, she's like, yeah.
Well, I mean, whatever you think of her,
whatever you say about her, yeah, she had a very,
she's taking on a visionary vision, you know.
Yeah, but she knows that she's sort of inhabiting
like a villainous kind of role in advocating for things.
But I'm gonna read excerpts from Jack's review,
which was the best one later, so whatever.
No, she knew she was like kicking the hornet's nest,
obviously, but I think the big problem
is that like Francis Ford Coppola is fundamentally like a dated liberal boomer and he can't pick
a side or take a stance and like he can't offer a critique of leftism. That's totally
fine in his prerogative, but he also similarly can't offer a critique of the right.
And so it becomes this kind of like giant mucky nothing burger.
I mean, there is I mean, his critique of the right is,
I think that they are kind of like a vulgar populist movement
that rubs like,
and in that way maybe it is Randian, I guess,
because like the elitist sort of establishment
that's represented by the technocracy
of Adam Driver's character
and the sort of establishment liberalism of the mayor,
that Trumpianism, populism is a direct threat
to a kind of cohesion and unity amongst the legacy class.
The elite.
The unwashed mass.
So they have to squash their beef and join hands
in a multicultural mixed race.
Exactly.
And his critique is that they're deplorable.
Yeah.
But there was a lot of vaguely right-wing sounding dialogue.
When the Laurence Fishburne character says in The Voice Over, when does an empire die?
Does it collapse in one terrible moment?
No, but there comes a time when people cease to believe in it
or when Julia asks Caesar, tell me.
Marcus Aurelius three times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Tell me of all the institutions your utopia preserves,
which is the most important to you, and he says marriage.
We're gonna solve the fertility crisis and raise the fuck rate.
There's a point where Caesar levels the immigrant neighborhood for his megalopolis,
and Claudio, his cousin and rival, seizes on the fact that immigrants can be leveraged to buy votes.
There are some really, frankly frankly Nietzschean moments
when Caesar says to Julia,
you find me cruel, selfish, unfeeling.
Well, I am.
I work without care for either one of us.
So go back to the club.
You hood rat.
Greed is but a word jealous men inflict on the ambitious.
Coppola ultimately at the end of the day
is too much of a lib cook to know what he wants either way
and to enforce his vision.
And like the way it ends with like that stone inscription
that's like, I pledge allegiance to our human family.
It's like those yard signs that libtards have
in their front yards that are like,
in this house we believe that black lives matter,
science is real, no person is illegal.
Like he should have just like put that sign
in like a marble engraving.
I know.
Yeah, we believe in all people,
indivisible and for justice for all and education.
It was like so, I was like, whoa.
But the best reviews of the movie that I've seen so far
were by Jack Mason and Armand White.
Jack said, it's awful.
Some hot guys in chubby shorts behind me said,
that's the worst movie I've ever seen in my life
and I can sympathize.
Something this self-consciously willfully obscure
will have a built-in contrarian fan base
claiming it's misunderstood,
but the weirdness feels insincere and ginned up
as a masking agent for how uninvolving
and milqueto toast the story is.
It ends with Adam Driver giving a speech
on a CGI lotus flower about how what we need is debates.
That's what we need, debates.
We can't forget our humanity and given to Trump
symbolized by MAGA hats and some minor Coppola cousin
with a black sun forehead tattoo.
We also need mixed race babies.
We have to have a future for mixed race babies and love,
a future for debates for mixed race babies and love.
It's awful and a chore to watch.
There's a generously well-lit scene of Shia's pubic hair,
which we've seen before, but which is always welcome
sticking up from the side.
I love, yeah.
It always brings it back to the male frontal.
I know, I know, but it was really a drag
and a slog to watch initially,
and then it sort of grew on me and I warmed toward it
because the bar is so low,
and also you've already paid for the ticket
and have two hours to go,
so you may as well make the best of it.
Yeah, I maybe 40 minutes, 45 into the film
decided to drink a huge beer really fast.
And I said to Alison,
this movie's about to get a whole lot better.
And yeah, I was like, sort of,
yeah, like disgruntled and confused and bored.
And disgruntled because you were bored
and bored because you were disgruntled.
And like bristling.
It's like mad TV lowered expectations.
But I will say I can't really,
I don't know if I can actually say
that it's bad.
It's weird, it's interesting.
Because it was interesting, it's like I truly,
it did keep me, I didn't really know
what was gonna unfold in part because it was like
kind of incoherent in some of the plot points
that were brought up, then got very quickly resolved
or not resolved and the plot kind of moved along.
Yeah, there's just like all this random shit
happening and shuttling, he like does cocaine and very quickly resolved or not resolved and the plot kind of moved along. Yeah, there's just like all this random shit happening
and shuttling, he like does cocaine and gets beat up and.
When Adam Driver's like drunk and doing bumps
and having his like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
I was like, oh my, oh no.
Am I watching the Joker too?
Like this is the, I'm like really, I suffered through parts of it,
but then as you said, like I kind of kept thinking about it.
And there was in part because of, you know,
the legacy of Coppola and like the hype around the film
and it being self-financed and stuff,
it did feel not fresh.
I didn't read the Armand White review, but I read the Richard Brody's,
which made me feel extremely gaslight because he was like,
this is Coppola's youthful.
He says that it was like a very youthful movie.
I was like, it's not.
It's like a senile movie, but that's interesting.
The second wind,
the burst of life you get before you expire.
And it is, I texted you after I saw it,
I was like, you gotta see this movie.
Yeah, and so did Eli, like so many people texted me,
like you have to see this.
And in that way, it is a successful slash good film
because it was-
It makes you think.
It makes you think, It stays with you.
It is like an encapsulated cultural moment.
It is really like when you buy a loaf of bread
at the farmer's market and you forget you bought it
and then it grows mold in these really beautiful
and interesting ways.
And you're like, oh, I didn't know that like life forms
could flourish in such a way on the decaying bloated corpse.
And I thought the performances were very good.
I thought there was like literally one good performance
in that film and that's Shia LaBeouf.
My hot take Shia LaBeouf is what people think
Joaquin Phoenix is.
He is such an incredible, effortless, amazing actor
that you forget he's acting and you're really in it
with him and he plays this kind of like
as Jax's trans coded gender goblin villain
who's like a kind of cross between Buffalo Bill
and Pee Wee Herman.
He's like an autogynophile.
I saw Jax saying that I didn't find Shia's character
to be transcoded.
I saw, I thought that he was pretty heavy handed
in his like depiction of like decadence.
Yeah, but it's a very stylized excessive vision
of decadence that doesn't really pertain.
Well, it's meant to be futuristic and fabulistic
and like, you know, it's the lady boys of Rome,
you know, in the decline.
The eunuchs and castratas.
I thought Aubrey Plaza was fantastic.
Aubrey Plaza delivered the second best performance.
She was very good.
I thought-
Sheila Buff and Aubrey Plaza carried the movie
and I agree with Armand White when he says
that like the sex scene between them
was probably the highlight of the film.
I found, yeah, also that sex scene for sure,
but also sort of the sex scenes with Plaza and Driver
and then Driver and that mulatto actress.
Natalie Emanuele, I Googled her.
In general, the horniness in the film also gave it
a kind of boomerish charm, you know,
that I was endeared to.
But like my-
It was a little kind a little unrestrained.
And overheated.
But the mixed-race multiculturalism stuff to me
was particularly grating and insufferable,
not because of any racist reasons,
but because as Armand White says, defies credulity.
I'll read some excerpts from him.
"'When far-left publications from the New York Times
to the Washington Post praise Coppola
for his aspirational determination,
you know that something idiotic this way comes.
Praising Megalopolis is a new form of elitism.
Preview screenings for Coppola's Hollywood surrogates
prove that no one there understands
artistic ambition anymore.
So illiterate that they miss the film's
two obvious parallels
to contemporary politics.
Coppola's emphasis on white protagonist Caesar
in Hollywood liberal terms is facile and archaic.
We don't even recognize clear thinking anymore.
Expectations are diminished, contaminated by politics.
Had Coppola focused on the dilemma of a white idealist
challenged and intimidated by a black
power player, setting off political subterfuge that nearly destroys the dynasty Caesar was born to,
Megalopolis might have ignited pop recognition and excitement, but his idea of conservative
black urban mayor defies credulity. Coppola snatches unassimilated ideas from current
political paranoia and recent cultural catastrophes,
manic news media promoting celebrity insanity all tossed into the mix with demented incoherence.
So true. And as Jack pointed out, it's also a missed opportunity because,
you know, it's historically an important film because it's like the first production that
deliberately broke with the Me Too backlash. and he says he wishes like the final product reflected the courage
necessary to do that.
And like one of the better plot arcs in the movie is how, um, Caesar's enemies
cook up this like cancellation campaign against him with like the doctored
footage of him committing statutory rape against the Vestal Virgin pop star and then it turns out that she's not even a citizen and
has doctored her birth certificate. I know but once again to speak to the
incoherence it's like if it's doctored you know it's like it's the kind of a
wraps it up with this like really quickly found this person it's yeah and
then it's like but I thought I at that point was very like, so was it
docked? Like, well, yeah, it seems insignificant.
It was like a I.
I heard if. It's like resolved.
Like these legalistic sort of.
Yeah. And it's also it's also like unclear,
like it's basically his evil scheming
gender goblin cousin who's leading the campaign
that ultimately works in the favor of the leftist
and or conservative mulatto mayor.
The mayor's black.
Whose hands are clean, but who leans into it.
But also, I mean, I thought one of the more faithful
elements of the film that didn't defy credulity
was that the ruling class was this kind of mixed race
mulatto class.
It was very Kamala Harris, Paw Patrol, Mayor Goodway.
Okay.
Yes.
Because it is these, it's not actual black people or white people,
it's like this new Benetton race
of like Yale educated lawyers and consultants.
Right.
I mean,
the Shia LaBeouf's character,
I didn't, Shia LaBeouf's character, I hesitate to call him a gender goblin because he's not really motivated by a trans identity based ideology.
He's meant to be encapsulated.
He's just polymorphously perverse.
Well, he fucks his sisters.
That's what Sort of Reiter reiterate is like they're part of that.
That brother sister duo is very Peter and Betsy.
But yeah, he's like incestuous.
He's yeah, polymorphously perverse.
He dresses up like it's yeah, he's not he doesn't map exactly onto like a corollary, I think, for Coppola necessarily of like...
Because I don't think he even really knows how bad it is.
I think he's just depicting access and Roman style decadence.
But I think what matters is that he's aesthetically gender fluid and non-binary but like actually straight.
Yeah, he's in love with the mayor's daughter.
He's trying to rape her all the time and stuff
and fucks his sisters.
And he's this like horny, lecherous guy
who then becomes very overtly
like a Trumpian political candidate
who like goes into the crowds of like the
disempoverished and handsome like dollar bills to win them over to his cause.
That's another thing I didn't quite understand because it's like is Gus Fring Trumpian or
leftoid is Claudio Polker Trumpian or leftoids?
Who's Gus best friend again?
It's the Giancarlo Esposito,
the guy who plays Franklin Cicero, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, with Shia's character,
there's literally the swastika, the black sun tattoo.
It's like, it's still, it's, and also,
but he's also kind of like a leftist figure because
he's leading Antifa mobs to burn down Minneapolis. I thought that was more. January 6. Yeah, yeah,
I was like, oh, he's doing a January 6 thing, which interesting how, you know, it's
little mini parallels. And he really just depends on, yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's so jumbled and incoherent
because you don't know what's what.
Yeah.
Like there is no like clear cut line, which granted.
I mean the black sun is a pretty overt symbol.
Yeah, but he's also like kind of antifa coded.
Well, just cause yeah, he's got a rat tail.
And a face tattoo.
He's like the Joseph Rosenbaum,
that like pedophile felon that Kyle Rittenhouse mowed down.
Exactly, we can't tell what his politics really are.
But they're also, okay, like Shia Labeouf,
sorry, I don't know their names.
Shia Labeouf and Adam Driver's character are cousins?
Yes.
So it all like, yeah, there's a point in the movie
where you're like, oh, it's all this kind of like,
familial squabble?
Yeah.
Like it is, it's still.
Yeah, because it's like Ta-Nehisi Coates.
Like Coppola thinks he's making a film
about the contemporary political situation,
but he's really making a film
about his own ordeal of civility.
It's like-
Well, he's so obsessed with his own legacy
and political legacy.
And yeah, I think he is ultimately such an establishment
like elitist at the end of the day that he isn't able
to make, you know, a hyper coherent.
And he's also, you know, what's called spade to spade.
He is an establishment elitist, which makes him basically liberal, a progressive, but
he's also an Italian American, which makes him kind of like naturally constitutionally
conservative.
I tweeted this, but it's like if Fountainhead was made by like a high,ung histrionic Italian American versus like a cold and bloodless Russian Jew.
Though to be fair, Ayn Rand was by all accounts highly passionate
passionate about both political ideologies and blow jobs. So yeah.
So, you know, but like the kind of stereotypical image of her is like a cold, cruel, unempathetic
figure who's like rational and calculating.
Right. who's like rational and calculating.
Right, I don't think her horniness eclipses her. She's definitely leading with like rationalism, no?
Once again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I find her prose to be tough.
Yeah, it was hard for me to get through.
But I don't have anything against her, you know?
It's just not my thing.
I mean, she's like Elon Musk to me.
She's a person who is incredible and exceptional
by virtue of inflicting her artistic vision
upon the world and sticking with it,
even though there were like armies,
legions of haters mobilized against her
from the very start, especially now.
She's obviously just objectively,
technically speaking, a remarkable human being.
Well, of course, that's why she's rose to a position
of like extreme prominence.
I'm honestly like between us girls,
not that interested in her or her work to have,
you know, a strong clear cut opinion.
Yeah.
But my knee jerk instinctual reaction is always that
when leftists hate you, you're on the right track.
Like always without fail.
Right.
I mean, and not, like you said, Elon Musk,
also kind of leftists love to talk about him.
He's like dumb and something like talk about how he's like dumb
in some ways, and like, yeah, he is like dumb in some ways.
He's obviously not that dumb.
He's not poor.
Yeah, it's like, that's beautiful.
It's so true.
He's definitely smart enough to figure out
if he can become extremely rich.
And unless you like, yeah, are like a total Marksoid retard who really thinks that like,
it's totally rigged. And then he's been given some kind of like, you obviously his dad was an arms
dealer or whatever, maybe not, I don't actually don't even know. But yeah. And his wife or his mom was a trans model in New York City.
I don't know. Yeah, he's not like a rags to riches story, but it's, you know, kind of a tough
materialist. Yeah. Sal to be like, you know, he has it. He doesn't have any merit or doesn't deserve
the things that he's accomplished. At the end of the day, he's gamed, he's figured it out.
I don't know.
I'm-
Yeah, it defies basic reason
to argue that he's dumb and a loser.
Yeah, there's plenty of privileged people
who are like fail sons and don't become Elon Musk.
He is like, there's plenty of like fail sons and nepo babies who basically
succumb to like womanizing and drug addiction and make nothing of themselves.
Yeah.
And I figure even if you are a fail son or a nepo baby, if you make something
of yourself that counts for a lot in this world.
I mean, it's, yeah.
You can't just just, yeah.
The way the leftist treat both Anne Rand and Elon Musk
is very confused and short-sighted.
Well, it's upsetting,
not even because I like wanna defend a brand or Musk,
but because of what it says about them,
it really is, it's like the most profound line
that was uttered on this podcast,
secondhand was,
your father, Dimitri,
you permit yourself too much.
These people permit themselves too much.
Literally proves Ayn Rand's point.
I know. That they're like, they live for competition
but hate the idea that anybody could outcompete them.
So they demand that their core demand
is that all competition be eliminated
and everything be like shitty and mediocre.
I mean, that's where I really take issue with
this kind of sensitive young man talking point
that emerges every so often.
Right-wing guys will talk about how they were
uniquely conspired against by their school teachers and stuff.
And the men are like uniquely.
Which by the way is objectively true.
It is true.
Like the modern school system favors girls over boys,
but you are right that like if you are an exceptional
person, you will find creative ways to triumph over that.
To me, it's very, you know, it's very like spiritually leftist to be like,
oh, like I could have been a genius, a great man of power if only my like,
Well, it's like the drama of the gifted child.
Fourth grade teacher didn't scold me and crush my Falsian spirit or something.
It's like, maybe you're not as high IQ as you think.
Maybe, you know, maybe school isn't fair, obviously,
but like life's not fucking fair.
Yeah, and the sad thing about it is that there is like
a truth, you Aria, there is the truth to that,
that like when you desegregate schools by sex,
everything becomes tailored to the lowest common
denominator, which is like the the needs of women. And then it entropies from there, you could
probably make the equivalent case about racial desegregation, which I will not be making on this
podcast. But you are correct that in the Randian model,
if you are an exceptional individual,
you find a way to adapt to the circumstances
that like life hands you.
It's like when life gives you lemons.
Exactly.
You have a lemon party.
a lemon party.
But like, I can believe that all of that is basically true.
I don't think in terms of childhood development, at least like in early schooling, that girls are the lowest common denominator.
I think that they just biologically,
they surpass boys in terms of verbal intelligence.
They do better on the whole, yeah.
Yeah, so it's not a matter of separating girls and boys.
It's just like, hmm.
School isn't about, school's not fair.
School's not fair and school's not even good.
School's a shit test.
Exactly, school's a shit test that's a proxy for life.
And if you're really high IQ as you claim to be,
then you'll figure out how to survive.
You have to just sort of of fortify yourself against it.
And if you're an adult who's upset
about something that happened to you as a school.
That's the whole problem with it is a proxy.
It's literally like a dry run address rehearsal for life.
It's like a diorama that you make in school,
a miniaturized model of what real life will be like.
An autist don't like to hear it, but it's like,
yeah, it is testing your kind of like
social adaptability and conformity in some ways,
but also like, even if you, if you're smart,
you can figure out how to conform and excel
at the same time.
You can, it's no one's actually hindered,
you're not as damaged as you think you are,
no one's hindered you. Yeah, not as damaged as you think you are. No one's hindered you
Yeah, this is like Melania Trump's philosophy. I
Just can't imagine people in the Soviet Union being like whoo. Whoa, so view you was really unfair
That was historically my problem with leftists that they're like core identity was formed around these like formative
Experiences from from elementary school or
high school. I don't remember either of those things. They're like a blip on my radar.
And not because I was brutally bullied or oppressed, but because just nothing happened. not exclusive to leftists. Like a lot of these rightly guys. But that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like now you see like the equivalent
but like inverse tendency or whatever forming on the right.
Of being like, yeah, I was traumatized by going to school
and it's like, well, then you aren't gonna make it anyway.
Wait, what was the original post you were responding to?
Was it like some long mini paragraph thing about how boys are uniquely
discriminated against in school and especially very high IQ boys of course yeah because it's not
that they have shortcomings of their own that they've had to confront in their life it's that they
were like thwarted every step of the way by the long house or whatever.
I mean, there is like a lot of truth to that,
to the extent that like boys like that are discriminated
against by like midwit middling teachers
who cannot understand their potential
and are there for hostile to and resentful of it.
It's like the thing that I was tweeting about the woke,
the woke in heavy scare quotes.
People come up against their own intellectual limitations
and have to rationalize it as like external oppression
or discrimination, which is like the bread and butter
of wokeness, right?
It's like saying, oh, there's like systemic
or structural racism at hand.
Exactly, or like gender discrimination against boys
or misandry in the case of the public schools.
They think that there is,
actually being a kid is really hard for boys and girls.
And everyone has uniquely traumatizing experiences
and it is up to sort of you on an individual level, ultimately,
to move. Like I didn't just fucking cruel and unfair by the way.
It is life's cruel and unfair. I didn't like going to fucking school.
I was extremely tormented. I hated being around my peers.
I was like a Chopin,Hauerian teenager as well.
I was very sensitive.
And I graduated early.
I went to fucking summer school.
I finished high school in three years
and I moved out of my parents' house and left Las Vegas
because I, and then I just never thought about it again.
But I can't, I'm not like hung up.
I couldn't, you know, I'm not hung up.
But this goes back to what we were talking about
in the last episode that like,
it's like a bitter pill to swallow
because what it comes down to at the end of the day
is that like all men are not created equal
in terms of potential, though they are created equal
in terms of their political rights
and their value in the eyes of God,
provided that they have the correct legal paperwork.
But you would think right wing people would understand that, but somehow when you remind
them of their unfortunate times as school boys.
Probably a vast majority of the right wing is like very young and very brown.
Well, I mean, that's for sure.
Do you have another cigarette?
No, I thought we had enough between the two of us
to make it through this show.
It's okay, I'll get some.
Anyway, sorry to digress.
Anyway, sorry to digress.
Well, I think I would split the difference and say that there's a way to talk about these
annoying intractable issues
without making it part of your identity.
Yeah, no, of course. Like it is absolutely true.
It is correct and true that boys are discriminated against
in the modern Western school system.
But you can't chalk up your own failure and disappointment
strictly to the fact that you were like long housed
by some like fat mixed race teachers.
Of course not.
And if you were actually a genius,
you would probably. You would find a way.
Like much like Elon Musk, you'd find a way to like maneuver.
You're not, you know, if you're high key,
you're not hung up on what happened to you in grade school.
Well, the thing with Elon Musk crucially is that he doesn't,
much like Azalea Banks actually.
Sorry, no, wait, that was a bad reference.
I meant to say Candace Owens, I got them confused.
He doesn't seem miserable or bitter.
No, he's playful.
He just seems angry, which is a good and righteous emotion.
He doesn't even seem that angry to me.
Well, he seems, he like obviously very annoyed, irritated by certain things that are going
on in the world.
But ultimately, I think he has a kind of, you know, she saw him.
He has he has a I think we've always maintained that even though his sense of humor isn't always our taste,
at least he has one.
And he's, yeah, I think the most endearing thing about him
is that he is able to retain a kind of playfulness
in the face of adversity.
Yeah, and keep on going, keep persevering in spite of it all. Yeah move on
you're done you don't have to go to school anymore and life's gonna also be full of like
it's over man move go move on.
You I believe in you I'm like it's I know I'm like taking like kind of like
a cruel line, but I actually it's.
You sound like Ayn Rand now.
I know I sound like you.
I'm like actually it's because I care so much.
But no, it's actually I'm like, I believe in you.
That you can overcome this.
Yeah.
If you really are this like.
Dasha my biggest problem in the world
is that I give people too much credit.
I know.
I really do believe in all of you morons and retards.
I'm like, you're going to be straight up.
I'm like, I'm so sorry.
You've had some traumatic experiences, but I believe in men and women that they can overcome them.
And they ultimately can like, hardest the will to be better, be best.
I know.
Why not be best?
Why not try that?
And now blame other people for holding you back.
So left or right.
Yeah, why not just let go of your grievances and resentments
and give into God.
And guess what?
God made you as smart as you're supposed to be.
I saw a tweet today about this retard.
No, he actually had Down syndrome,
this guy, he had Down syndrome, sorry.
Well, Anna. And it was like one of those fake viral tweets, but it was like some guy had Down syndrome, this guy, he had Down syndrome, sorry. Well, Anna.
And it was like one of those fake viral tweets,
but it was like some guy with Down syndrome
who had a normal, like a normally abled son
who later became a dentist.
Interesting.
And I was like, okay, like if that guy can do it,
so can you.
For sure.
I don't know where I'm going with this.
Wait, so a guy with Down syndrome had a son
who became a dentist?
Yeah.
That's what you're feeling?
Yeah.
I just thought that was like cute and uplifting.
It's an uplifting anecdote.
And there was like a photo.
Keep your head up.
You know, you're gonna make it.
You might have a son who becomes a dentist.
Or a son with Down syndrome.
I mean dentists are fucked.
Yeah, are they?
It seems like a lucrative enough profession.
I don't mean like materially.
I mean like something's wrong with dentists
because they look in people's mouths all day.
They kind of like. They're like sexual sadists. I think. like something's wrong with dentists because they look in people's mouths all day.
They're like sexual sadists, possibly pedophiles.
In some cases, I wouldn't be surprised,
but more so I think there's something about gazing
into the abyss of another person's mouth and skull
and stuff that causes some sort of psychological decline.
You know, it's just like,
I don't think it's a healthy profession to be like.
You're like getting back shots of spittle,
even though you have the mask and the goggles on.
I wouldn't, yeah.
I just can't imagine choosing a profession
in which I like look at the people's.
Had to interact with like, not only interact,
but like just the mouth.
Look into the gaping holes of thousands of strangers.
It's Freudian, you know, to be so obsessed with the mouth.
I mean, someone's gotta do it, I guess.
Though I don't believe in dentistry.
I'm medicine skeptical and dentistry is especially.
It's like very low in the totem pole.
Though I understand that yeah,
you can have the teeth somehow, the nerves,
it's your whole body, it's a holistic thing.
But.
This is why we are the way we are.
Cause we haven't seen a dentist. Cause we haven't gone to the dentist in a long time. But this is why we are the way we are. I haven't gotten to the dentist.
I haven't.
I'm like, this is literally traveled to our brain.
My wisdom teeth grew in on top because I only got my bottom ones removed.
And wait, what?
Remember, like a couple of years ago, maybe a year ago, I guess, I was like, my wisdom
teeth are going in and they hurt.
And now they just, I didn't go to the dentist,
nothing, they just grew in.
I have these like weird-
You're so underage, you were teething.
I was teething.
I know.
Randomly when I was 32 years old,
my wisdom teeth grew in and like were, yeah.
That's when I got my L-f bar.
I had the allergic reaction in the L-f bar.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
I still have all my wisdom teeth.
That's why I'm so wise, you guys.
So true.
I only have half.
But yeah, I think it's because my wisdom teeth
were like poking through and my mouth was raw
and the vape juice had an adversarial effect.
Who knows?
Once again, it's a mystery
what happened with the elf mystery. But my there, yeah, I have like, was empty sound.
All good. Fine. Never had a cavity. It's just not. I think it's a sham.
Yeah.
I think- Like psychiatry.
I think giving birth, no, psychiatry is real.
But dentistry, giving birth and having an abortion
are overly medical.
I mean.
But I need psychiatric drugs for my adult.
Psychology, not psychiatry, that's what I meant.
Yeah, Freudianism.
Right, also real.
More real than evolution or climate change.
So true.
I mean, yeah, I do think Freud was more right than I knew.
I knew that movie was over for me when they, like, beamed the shadow of the evolutionary
chart on the building.
Yeah.
No, for me, the big clock.
Yeah.
Like, I get a whiff of steampunk and I'm checked out.
I'm squirming.
I don't know what it is.
Your artistic vision has been reduced to Canal Street, Sylvainier shop, antics.
Yeah.
I think Las Vegas, there's something very steampunk about people with highfalutin
ideas.
There's art galleries at the Las Vegas airport that have very Lomax gallery art.
It's like the circus meets Milan Rouge.
Exactly.
I think that's really what it is about. It's like I have some childhood trauma where I can't, if I see a gears or anything,
that's my problem with poor things too.
I was like, miss me with the blimps, miss me with that old steam.
It's not for me.
So I'm like sympathetic to that whole aesthetic, even though I personally hate it and it makes my skin crawl because it's like life makes boomers of us all.
And one day whatever aesthetic we're repping
will be extremely corny and outdated
and people will be clowning on us.
That's so true.
We won't even suffer the fate of like a Kim Gordon.
It'll be so much worse.
I know.
I mean, my secondary issue with same fung aesthetics
is that I do like Edwardian garb.
Yeah.
So I'm walking a very thin.
It's the narcissism of small differences.
I'm walking a very thin line
where sometimes I'll put on one of my like
tea dresses, 19th century tea dresses and just one wrong move
and I tip over into steampunk.
Yeah, it's projection for sure.
But yeah, I mean, I can't imagine,
I have no idea what it's like to be 80 years old
and making them, you know, I'm sure I'll have some crazy
ideas about what's going on out there.
And like you said, I think it's like, you know,
he's, I respect legacy too.
He's allowed, he financed it himself.
No one, you know, no one wanted him to make this.
Yeah. And he's been trying to make it for 10 years against all odds.
So good. Not not even like I think he would like to think that he is like
the Adam Driver character, who's a proxy for Howard Rourke
type character, who's thwarted by mediocre administrators and bureaucrats
every step of the way.
But the reality is like, no one wanted him to make this film
because it was a bad idea,
but he made it in spite of himself.
And that's why Elon Musk is such a wonderful
and amazing genius and why I stan him in the end.
Yeah, because he too can make a hideous car.
What's the, I guess, what's the substance called again?
The Adam Driver?
We've nobody ever, none of the reviews I read at no point in this podcast.
Has anybody mentioned the central plot device, which is like Adam
Driver coming up with this new radical substance called Megalon, which has the potential to
stop time.
No, right?
No.
Okay. It's more vague than that. He somehow is able to stop and control time. But the
substance is some kind of, I mean, it is very yeast coated. It's very like sprawl. It's
just says this kind of like healing utopian. Yeah. Like when he survives his like, Trumpian assassination attempt. Yeah, he is able
to, to heal himself using like a megalon patch. Yeah. So yeah, the megalon is sort of this like,
very utopian universalist substance that's able to kind of mend all things and heal them.
And I think you're right that it's like if progressive ism was a material.
I mean, so true.
And I think you're right. I think Coppola sees himself as like a synthesis, right?
Coppola sees himself as like a synthesis, right? Of this like progressive genius,
but also this like more conservative old timey.
When the mayor is literally like,
my name is Frank, it's Francis.
I was like, his name Francis.
Yeah.
I was like, okay, so you gave,
you named this guy Francis and he's this like.
Well, I don't remember if I said this already because I'm drunk, but when the
beautiful mulatta Meghan Markle wife announces that she's pregnant and it's like the redemption
arc from his wife who he witnessed drowning when she was pregnant and the mulatta wife's dad
when she was pregnant and the mulatto wife's dad
had falsely prosecuted him for it.
Oh, right. Yeah, that was like an whatever.
Also confused, and because then he kind of moves on.
I don't totally buy the love between them.
Yeah.
You know, then they're on the beams.
Yeah, and I was just like, fucking push her off of it and let her fall to her
death. It's annoying, bitch.
I remember her from Game of Thrones, which is a show that I personally enjoyed
and didn't like her because she was like, she was like a stand in for like the
Obamas or something.
But that she's it's like, it's like a,
a kind of sentimental, an ironic replay
of that scene in the Sopranos,
where Ralphie tells his 19 year old stripper girlfriend,
like, if it's a boy, we'll name him after me.
And if it's a girl and like beats her to death.
In this retelling, they're like,
oh, if it's a girl, she'll have this weird, gay and annoying
Ta-Nehisi-ass name, I don't remember.
And if it's a boy, we'll call him Francis.
And of course it's a girl.
Cause any baby born in the future
has to be a girl and mixed race.
But like every- Only a little. Everything is like- Only a quarter. because any baby born in the future has to be a girl and mixed race. Right.
But like every, yeah.
Only a little.
Everything is like.
Only a quarter.
Everything is like a reference to Francis.
Yeah, no, it's very, it was,
I'd be pissed if I was a Coppola grandkid
or had any inheritance on the line, I'd definitely be like,
you spent, what, how much money?
I'd be like, you what?
You spent your inheritance like,
you're masturbating?
You squandered our family fortune, yeah.
About, I mean, literally, it's like,
it couldn't be a more heavy-handed metaphor
for progressivism ultimately with like the moving sidewalks
They all have to like get on yeah
They all I just have to like get on the you know
yeastian
Architecture the very like vaginal. Well, that's the other thing. It's like this is my biggest
Phobia it did well because
You know, I know Francis Ford Coppola is an Italian American who, as
I said before, is constitutionally conservative, respects and honors the legacy of the Roman
Empire and is making like little nods and homages to Ayn Rand Fountainhead.
And then I have to wonder why like,
no one in the history of cinema,
it seems easier in cinema than in architecture
to build a beautiful city,
according to your personal vision.
But no one in the history of cinema
has actually really ever built like a utopia.
Like this particular utopia looks so much worse
than what we already have.
It looks like a long house termite nest.
It looks like the meme.
Yeah, of like a better society.
Yeah, this is what it would be like
if Anna and Dasha didn't exist.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, it's, but that's very like,
it's like futurist kind of architectural idea
that it'll be like amorphous and kind of like not.
And like organic and rounded and yeasty feminine.
But like the city that the supposedly like visionary
Adam Driver character creates
is literally like a mud hut in the ground.
It's like lotus pods.
Yeah, with like bells and whistles.
It is, what is that thing that you mentioned?
The fear of holes.
Trypophobia. Yeah, it is. It's like literally like an insect den. It looks like what is that thing that you mentioned? The fear of holes. Yeah, it is.
It's like literally like an insect den.
It looks like a Yeezy slide.
It does, yeah.
Which also grossed me out due to the clustering of holes.
Yeah, it's so ugly and disgusting.
It looks like your old house.
It looks like your old house is so much better.
It does.
It does.
And then you realize like, oh, we already have a beautiful city.
I know.
We've just failed to maintain it.
I know.
By keeping it free of like migrants and vagrants.
Yeah, and not, you know.
Like New York is already a beautiful city.
You don't need a visionary utopia.
And you need like a robust investment in like restoration and like preservation, you know,
which we just don't have.
Yeah.
So a lot of like beautiful buildings end up, you know, I mean, yeah, Decade and
Migrant.
I mean, I get that the final Megalopolis city
at the end of the film is supposed to serve as like a metaphor for an actual utopian city,
which no one knows what that looks like
Well, yeah, it's it's a fable, you know, but it's actually so like grotesque and depressing
No, it's horror. It's a nightmare. I would like would you want to live in that city?
No, I don't want to live in any kind of like
global homo prefab, I don't want to live in any kind of like global homo prefab. I don't want I would like the way in which I'm the most constitutionally conservative,
I think is in my like enthusiasm for like period architect.
I like the way things used to be and think it's kind of preserving them on an aesthetic and
like cultural level.
Yeah, I mean, the way that I'm most constitutionally conservative is that I have a one woman jihad
against the open floor plan, which is like one of the greatest horrors ever visited upon human civilization.
Yeah.
And when I look at apartments or properties,
I have to go full Karen and yell at the realtor
and say, I want discreet rooms with the doors
that close behind you.
Yeah.
Why do we knock down these walls?
Mr. Gorbachev blow out my wall, my Tim walls.
I'm with you. Yeah.
I love an enclosure.
I love a nice room with careful details.
I don't want the IKEA showroom.
I don't want the floor to ceiling window.
I don't really want the high rise.
Yeah, I hate being manipulated and bamboozled
by evil realtors who try to make it look like
this is a design or aesthetic decision
when it's really like a cost cutting thing,
which somebody schooled me on open floor
and was like, it's actually not cheaper
than having like normal
structural borders.
I'm such a, I'm so not an open borders person
in every possible way.
I fucking hate open borders.
I'm not even talking about immigration.
Yeah, you are a person who values your like boundaries
and privacy.
Yeah, it's like, it's very earth sign,
it's very politically conservative, love of boundaries.
But somebody told me that basically
it's actually possibly more expensive
to have an open floor plan
because you have to have various structural supports
where you least expect them.
Okay.
Like it's very easy to build like a box, right?
Yeah, probably.
And then you like, you know,
you put a bunch of boxes together and you have a house.
I think it's more complicated than that.
But yeah, I mean, the open floor plan is most often favored sort of by like skyscraper,
like in New York, the loft, you know?
Yeah.
But walking out of this movie, I was like, I would rather live in like an open floor
plan loft, like the kind
they had in like Michael Douglas, Glenn Close movies in the nineties versus like the
pod disgusting polycule. It's a polycule. Yeah. And there's like one extremely like
large and fat Venus of Willendorf termite queen lodge
somewhere in there.
Yeah, no, it's, I found the architecture to be gross.
Objectionable, yeah.
And not what you would expect from a copula, frankly.
I mean, I guess he's like venturing
into a vision of the future.
So he's thinking outside the box and it's not exactly futuristic or utopian to make
New York a gorgeous building with a right angle.
That's like, I guess we're sick of that.
We're trying a new thing in the new Rome.
I guess we're sick of that. We're trying a new thing in the new Rome. Oh, I was also immediately confused when it was like the blah, blah, blah year of the third millennium. I was like, what year?
Are we in the third millennium now? Or is this a thousand years into the future?
Right? Yeah. I was like, miss me with that. I don't just tell me
what year it is. What year is it? What do you mean? And you still haven't figured out how to
have positive canthal tilts and non recessed maxilla that far into the future.
I know. Well there weren't a lot of fat. There weren't any fat people.
That's true. And in that way, the movie was good.
Actually, it was bad because if he really wanted to stay faithful to his circus
steampunk vision, he would have had one guy that was like a Newman from Seinfeld.
The most obese guy in 1910. He was like, this man was considered radically obese.
The vomitorium.
I thought the whole gladiator sequence was kind of fun.
They had nice moments,
but then that quickly gave way to the circus freak show
of Adam Driver's mind.
I was like, I can't wait for this to end.
Why is this going on?
This movie felt like watching a Nick Fuentes live stream.
But like way less funny and entertaining.
I wish it felt like that.
But it had the same effect.
We were like, I feel dirty and like I was just molested, but it really makes you think.
I mean, I be watching fun to be honest, I do tune in.
I you know, I take it with a grain of salt, but I, you know.
It makes me feel kind of like peaceful and like pleasant to be honest.
I'm going to like he's got the little pumpkin
on his desk now for the season.
Oh yeah.
He's doing his thing.
We out here pumpkin maxing.
He's doing his thing. We out here pumpkin
I mean I also because I'm too low IQ to figure out how to stream something. Any debate or like conference I've watched this election season has been on on Brumble slash Nick Fuentes. Cause I like, I'm like, I don't know how to, why I'm like,
he's going to stream it.
And the nice thing about Nick Fuentes is he's quite,
he is like quiet.
He doesn't, he's not like,
he doesn't opine all the time.
No, when he's doing a stream of like a presidential debate
or the VP debate or like the democratic national convention, he's doing a stream of like a presidential debate or the VP
debate or like the Democratic National Convention he's like you know he's very
like he has his quips are well timed and he knows kind of on the commercial
breaks he'll sort of talk but then he like lets it's a good way to watch
because I'm so scattered that I can't focus on the thing that I need like an extra thing and to look at my phone.
Yeah.
So that's been working.
But how does he make money? I guess people donate money to him. Yeah, he seems rich.
He seems, yeah, but I don't understand. He doesn't like do ads.
Or I keep a Patreon or anything.
He has like a pay big economy.
He must, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, good for him.
Nick Fuentes, the Howard Rourke of our time.
Just a bright and ambitious boy.
Everyone's Ben Shapiro, get your boot off my neck.
Ha ha ha.
Can I sell a hat?
When he said, can I sell a hat, I was like,
he's just like me for real.
But yeah, sure, he's imperfect.
And talkable and toxic.
Anyway. Sure, he's imperfect and talkable and toxic. Anyway, do we have any more remarks on how many doggy bones?
Minneapolis.
Mineopolis? Yeah, five out of five stars.
You go first.
Three.
Like, Megalopolis, it's like my beauty.
It can't be rated on the normal scale.
Yeah, it's't be rated on the normal scale. Yeah, it's all on guard.
Extremely f**kly.
I'm, yeah, mid.
I don't know.
It's a really bad movie. I mean, I don't believe necessarily in like, you know,
like very declarative, I guess, statements
about whether or not films are good or bad
because ultimately, you know, they are like a vision,
which this movie is.
They only truly, it's worse to be like middling.
Like a movie that's neither here nor there,
at least this had like badness on the side.
At least it had, well, okay,
I will say one nice thing about this movie
that it's like the perfect bookend to the Biden era.
It is truly Biden core.
I know.
It's like a guy in a coma having like a fever dream.
Yeah, it's like what must be going through Biden's mind
but Italian, not Irish.
Yeah.
And I'm just sad Robert De Niro couldn't be in it.
I know, but he did that, a Q and A on opening night
where he like fully was like, imagine Trump couldn't make,
he said Trump couldn't make a movie like this.
He's got his Trump derangement so late stage
that he can't help himself.
But I wonder why he wasn't.
Everyone else, Dustin Hoffman, John Voight,
they're all, they're making, everyone else kind of showed up.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Well, see you in hell.
See you in hell. you