Red Scare - Met Gala Fashion Police w/ Elena Velez

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Elena Velez is back to review Met Gala 2026 looks with the ladies.

If you gesture with your hands, then move the mic back into that range. Yes. Can you hear me? Yeah. I can hear me too. What are you wearing? What am I wearing? I'm wearing head-to-to-well-mart. Dave, this is no boundaries.

You look cozy. Elena Bella's Met Gala, Head-toe custom. You look good, girl. So that's head-to-toe Walmart. You look fine. And the socks. The dry fit? Yeah, back when I was cool enough to get gifted socks.

Wait, are we recording? Yeah, we're just going on. Elena has like the Nike. I got the, you know, the Nike socks. No, no, the sneaker. The sneaker? What's the sneaker? I don't know.

What's that model called? The one you're wearing. It's like a hood girl sneaker. It's almost a black AF1, but not quite as cursed. It's got these like little jelly turbo things on the bottom of them. Oh, I've seen those. Yeah. But it's like what.

what sexy little hood rats were when they get out of high school. Yeah. And go smoke weed in the park with a manned. Anna, what are you wearing? Eritzia, baby. Head to toe? No, I'm wearing Eritzia X. T.J. Max.

Yeah, what's the top? The top is like a really old Eritzia top back when it was like way more based and they had good designs. And it's like a surge Diagula of like ballet ruse. That's so in on. The Pumps merch that Mariah gives us all. Totally. And then these are like yoga pants from T.J. Max or Marshalls, I don't fucking know. But they're a cute boot cut and I haven't been able to find anything comparable since.

But yeah, Eritzia used to be really good. Did it? It opened? Yeah. And then they started doing these kind of cookie cutter uninspired, like Asian girl boss fashions. What are you wearing? I'm wearing Brandy. This is from an ex-boyfriend.

but he probably got it on eBay. What's it say? It's for, it's a neon, it's an anime t-shirt. Oh, cool. I see it. Nice. And it says,

God is in his heaven. All is right with the world from neon genesis. He goes, what a sentiment. Cool. We look great. We look great as a unit. Yeah.

We look so off. We're serving. Would be great to have a visual component. 100%. But I made us PDF slideshow. Yeah. That people can look at while they listen to the pod. I love that.

And then they can imagine their, you know. We should sync it to the slide changes. I'm so dumb because I was like, why this bitch putting so much effort into this PDF? Right. For us. Like only we're going to see it. And then I was like, oh, wait, it's going up on the Patreon. I could make an audio. Like, we could sync it potentially.

You should do that for all of your guests. Like, do a running slideshow of just images that correlate to the conversation. We worked so hard. We work where we've been working so hard. We're visual artists. I mean, sure. Oh, you need a later. Yeah.

Yeah, I, as I told you, I literally have heartburn from working too hard for one day out of the year. What was your day like, Anna? I mean, we got shipped to Connecticut to do Megan. Fun. Came back. Did childcare. And now I'm here in the studio, chopping it up with you ladies. Nice. I should bring my kids next time.

Did something more than child care, but. Oh, okay. We're back. I took a chest break for a few hours. Nice. What's your score like? Bad right now. But it oscillates. But it's not, it's a bad. It's something really toxic in my life. I just got a brick. What's a brick? It's one of those like productivity. It's like a physical.

Oh, for your phone. That makes it like heavy. So you can't. pick it up and is that the one? No? That's a really good. I have phone cases that are like super heavy. You can't lift you. It's like a lockbox.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The phone is so balmy. Eli got me one. No, but it's not a lockbox. It's like a case for the phone that's just so heavy that you don't lay in bed and scroll. Yeah.

Oh. There's another one that's just like a clear plastic case that you lock the phone into. No. This is like you, is a magnet or something. You touch your phone to and it disables your like apps. Whoa. And to get it back on, you have to physically touch it. Okay.

So it kind of forces you to commit more because you have to physically go to it and like, Yeah. Uh-huh. Take action. Yeah. To scroll again. It's crazy. But watch me not even use it.

Like, that's the hack. I know I never used it. But it's crazy. There's like a whole like, um, micro economy of like tools to prevent you from going on your phone. No, it's crazy. That's, yeah. Who would have thunk?

But we were just talking. We were, we're going to discuss the Met Gala. What a fun night Did we intro our guest? Oh my God, we're so stupid. See, this is why Megan Kelly gets paid. This is why she lives in Connecticut. We live in N-word hell. Welcome back to Red Scare.

I can't even do it the way she does. Welcome back to Red Scare. Welcome back to Red Scare. She's not that peppy. She is very professional and telegenic. Yes. Uh-huh. Welcome back to Red Scare. We've got a.

a very special guest. Hi, she. Dear friend of the pod, Miss Elena, a love. Yeah. What a fun night. Crazy. It would really be like, yeah.

But Pinterest. Yeah. I'm happy being on Pinterest because I use it and it feels like. No, I'm obsessed with Pinterest. You ever like see yourself on Pinterest? That's cute. All the time. Wow.

Yeah. You're on Pinterest too. Damn. I haven't been on. Pinterest in years, but it's a good alternative to to the other more toxic apps.

Yeah. Though it has its whatever. We've got a lot of looks to get through. We got a lot of looks to get through. Pinterest and last time we did this with Coupo. I know. We need to bow our heads and do a Paul Coupo land acknowledgement.

Yeah, we should. Betty's happy not to do it because we were all so exhausted by the end of it. It really it takes a lot out of it. I know. I'm ready. Let's go. I mean, I'll critique at Parsons and it's like two and a half hours, three hours long. Let's create. Let's Crip mode. Do you see Bianca's and Sori? No. Oh yeah. She went to like an architecture school and did a crit. That's so cool. She looks so bossy and like. I love her so much. I think she's awesome.

I'm sure we'll circle back to her. Let's go first. Oh, we're just jumping in. I mean, I have to keep touching the computer so it doesn't go. Black. Emma Chamberlain. Emma Chamberlain. Oh, wait. Should we introduce the theme of the MacGella? Let's do meta. Let's do meta first. And then like... Well, I said we're going to talk about the MacGala.

Okay. But it's also probably... No, no, but like the theme of the MacGallet. Oh, of course. The dressed body. The theme is technically costume art. Which is shade, because like costume and couture should have like no thematic alignment. say more costume is it costume art

first of all that is the I know the dress code is fashion is art yeah and it's for the exhibit costume art this already sounds too complicated for celebs to follow

yeah they're like multiple right the dressed body but say more about couture I just feel like it has a level of historical intentionality

to the way that it is considered that transcends the idea of costume which is more of a visual art than like an architectural consideration. Could be wrong. I guess it really depends on the eye holder. No, I know what you mean. You know.

Costume does. I get shaded all the time for like having fashion that reads as costume. It's couture. Yeah, it's couture. But I mean, yeah, I guess that's something interesting maybe that they're exploring at the exhibit in addition to different kinds of bodies. In addition to the unofficial theme, which is being disabled. In which case I should have gotten top placements, but...

There was like a kind of unintentional theme that emerged, which was like mother-daughter vibes, incest. Because like Chris Jenner showed up with all her girls. Nicole Kidman had her daughter. Yeah, Blue Ivy was up in there. On deck, Blue Ivy was up in there. I guess... Lila.

She didn't wanted Northie to show up, but she didn't. I bet she didn't want her to show up. Interesting. I didn't catch that, but you're right. Yeah, it was older women magging. Right, right. Literally that. No, it's so true. So true. That's so funny. It's like they keep trying to find these like platitudinal and foolproof concepts for the Met Gala to make sure that nobody gets canceled. Nobody has like an accidental.

Even with the deformed people, the disabled people? Well, what I was going to say is there should have been more, like, I want to see a leper, you know? I want to see like push it. Like, let's get really get freaks. Like, okay, we all know about the black tranny in the wheelchair with cerebral palsy, seen it, a dwarf, like, okay. But like, where's a real show? There was someone with an amputee. Right.

Show me that quadruple amputee who shot someone on, made it. to the New York Post. He should be there. Yeah. Damn. Like, show me, yeah. How do you dress an armless, legless body? Oh.

You just drape? Like, same way you dress a cerebral part of palsy wheelchair band. Woman of color. Yeah, but like I had to unblock my worst haters to get up-to-date feedback on the bag of gal. I know. Generous. Generous. I know. Well, not that I hover blocked or anything, I don't, but our girl Ella Davy,

friend of the part, Al-Adi. She made a tweet that was like showcasing some looks from Matt Gallows of Yore where it looked like just like hot, rich people going to kind of a dressy party to do hoag. And like talk at each other. And I almost feel like the stunt dresses take away. from the appreciation of the fashion because you measure everything relative to them. You know what I'm saying? Like it's like, yeah, okay, like people doing crazy like Niki of Samothrace or whatever. Like who's the first bitch to do?

It's a really long train. Someone had to do that first and now anyone's doing it. There are historical references always funny because it's like Gustav Klimt and John Singer-Sargent. Madamex. Every bitch is referencing Madam X because she was like a high fashion bad girl. And at the time that portrait was controversial. But like I like all the looks that like get lost in the fray. Because they're like simple and classy and sedate. It's the hardest thing to do. Yeah. To say the most with the least amount of like technical gestures. And yeah, people either interpret it as like a literal artwork that's that. the garment mimicked. Yeah. Or they, like, used paint or...

Right. Modes of art. Like, totally literal applications. Yeah. Well, there was that great post from, who was it? Dennis. Right? Yes.

So the conceit that fashion is art isn't something that I ever even really debated. Yeah. Yeah, everybody... I can pull this up. So it doesn't need to be referenced into, like, other art forms. Yeah, it kind of takes away from that premise. Yeah. by being like, oh, fashion is art, like, okay, I'll wear, like, a dress with paint on it.

Right. Because paint is art. Yeah. So what if fashion was paint? Yeah. Yeah. What if we did, like, starry night on a dress? Right.

Literally that. What if we did Gernica on a dress? Yeah. He said, it seems like if you're trying to convince people that fashion is art, everyone is already convinced of this. It is counterproductive to your argument to need to refer to other genres of art to justify this. So true, King. Yeah, and everybody just like interprets it either too open-endedly or too literally. A lot of girls love referencing like classical sculpture with the 3D printed bodice of a like torso because it makes you look thinner yet more curvaceous.

Yeah. None of them were willing to commit to the bit of like pure art at the expense of looking hot. Except for Heidi Klun. There were a... Who does it. And Lena Dona. And Lena Dunham. But it's like, you know, the Heidi Klum thing was a missed opportunity because it's like,

this is the Matt Gala, like not your fucking Halloween party bitch. Like, she looked like a costume. Yeah. No, we were talking about that. Like, if she had ringed it in another 40%, she would have fucking nailed it. Like, you had a good point. Let her be hot. Yeah.

And it would have been a moment. Yeah. And it's just literally, like, I know a Russian guy in Las Vegas who dresses up. like a living statue and works at the Venetia and like that's just someone's that's their culture right she's appropriating living statue culture valour and he does that for for dollars that people cross his way so true that's so funny so I included Emma Chamberlain even though this look didn't particularly do it for me but she did show up at like 430s. Yep. I was like lying in bed being like, when can I watch, you know, the Michael and then I'm scrolling and I'm like, oh, I'm like pretty, she's here early. She showed up and she got a lot of press for it. Yeah. She's like a TikTok or a YouTuber or she's some kind of influencer. I think she's all the above. I think you. Yeah. Influencers be like, they love to show up. Multidisciplinary.

To the opening of an envelope. Yeah. I wonder if there's a thing like, okay, my question is like, is it at your discretion when to show up or is there like a. stack, schedule. It's a schedule. You get a 15-minute window. And it's crazy because they're all lined up in the tent before they hit the carpet. But I bet some people have more pull, obviously. It's political. And they show up whenever. They get like an hour window. Right. Yeah. So all the bigwigs like Beyonce and Rihanna obviously showed up super late. I love that Dasha spelled Emma Chamberlain, the Armenian way, Emma Chamberlian. There's probably some typos in this. Keep them. But I worked hard. Yeah, it looks amazing. I do love the color coding.

I like the dress. It made me really want to rewatch Blades of Glory. That was kind of like my central takeaway. Yeah, hell yeah. Everything just reads as like ice skatery, which I think is kind of a choice. Yeah, I mean, this one, I guess, notably had real paint. Yeah. Which doesn't really do.

In my day at art school, they called that Cupcake Deckerney. Like when you took a basic dress, a basic ass silhouette and you just like innovated with surface treatment or like just decorated it, it's cupcake decorating. So. But the dress does have an interesting. It's nice. It's like super well constructed. And the leaky gloves. Yeah.

I like that she went with like a kind of pixie mullet. It's art. Yeah. It's art. It does. It's giving art. It's like the intersection of. Coles and Michaels.

Ooh. Jewel tones. Okay. But I get what she's going for because it's like an impressionist or post-impressionist palette. You know, like a wilting flower. It's so funny to me that like. Memento Mori. Yeah.

You know. It is kind of also giving Georgia O'Kee. Totally. I bet that was on a mood board. It's so funny that Peter showed up and did like an anti-feather performance slash display. Like literally days after this. CFDA banned fur on the New York Fashion Week runway. So like they came off a big win. And then they found a whole ass other thing to be petty about.

Give them out of incredible. I can't believe Peter still at it. Yeah, they got sway in New York City. Listen. Morrissey's a big advocate for that. Is he? Put him in the middle. I mean, right? He would never. He's never been asked. Megan kept complaining about how there weren't real celebs there.

Mm-hmm. But, no, they're kind of were. There were. I mean, she was talking about, like,

Sandra Bullock. Like, who wasn't there? Yeah, Merrill Streep wasn't there. It's like, but like Kim Kardashian's a real celib. Yeah.

Beyonce's a real celib. Rihanna. Yeah. There's celebs. Lily Rose Depp. These are celebrities. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. There's some spicy girls up in here. I know. I would have seen like a whoa Vicky moment. That would have been crazy. I miss Grimes

at the Met Gala. In that Peter Thiel dress. Hey. So. I know. There's not a lot of, um, quirked up hose. Yeah.

Really in the mix. Yeah. Best you can do you is Rachel Suna. Yeah. Though she's the quirkiest bitch there. So she's, well, I guess, besides Lena. Lena's holding it down. Yeah.

But, okay, next. Nina's back. Um, uh, Rihanna and Margella. First of all, I love that Dasha went with like the Saladon green background. All of these are, you know, doing like a literal bronze. I picked colors. I'm doing color theory.

I want to love it. I suffer from synesthesia. I want to love it too. There are so many good elements. Like you said, the fabric is very posh and expensive looking. The color looks beautiful. on her. Stunning.

The styling is just weird. Like, the proportions just serve Mike Wizzowski a little bit. Like, in the runway shot, they had it styled over the head, like a hood almost. It was, like, concealing half of the face, and it just really worked and made the model look so tall. Yeah, but she clearly wanted to show off her, like, makeup and hair, which I get. She kind of looks like Grendel's mother. Mm. Because it's not, like, doing her body any favor.

Yeah. That's the thing I hate is like when the celebrities can't pull off like the size zero fan. I want to see more of her tit. Yeah, exactly. Like I want to see more. She should have worn fenty. Yeah, right? James was too busy, like taking over the spotlight. That could have been a good fendi moment, honestly. If they're wearing the nipple bra. Right. And I get how this is like such a classic and cliche art historical reference. like Botticelli woman emerging from oyster shell or whatever. It is very like fertile and maternal. Yeah. I can't. Yeah, I can't really hate on it because she's got aura. Yeah, and she looks like good and beautiful, unlike Beyonce. But I just, yeah, there's something about it I don't love. I did love her. I did like her. I did like her. her look more than ASAP Rockies, and I hated that they were, like, clashing. He had, like, a pink smoking robe, like Hugh Hefner. Camp. Yeah. Why is somebody ringing my doorbell at 10-17?

Do you want me to pause? Should I see about that? No, it's fine. I'll just ignore. If they ring a god. Yeah. Yeah, I think she looks beautiful. I love it. The collar and the drape is so nice. metallic it looks very like cosmic there's some it's there's something interesting to it yeah i i like how like subtle the color is she always kind of hides herself at the met gal i feel like she doesn't really want to be there yeah it's been a while right since she did something super sexy she always like but she just released also like a fenty like cotton basics campaign where she's showing like under boobs she looks extremely hot um and she

She is like, she's less exhibinistic. Yeah. Excuse me. I've had a long day. But she's always at the Macal. I feel like she's very shielded. Yeah. And this is giving very, like, closed off.

Guarded. Yeah. Which I respect, but makes me long, you know, I'm yearning. My favorite Rihanna look is when she was super skinny and had the short hair. Yeah. Because she looked so good. The crystal Sorovsky gown. Yeah. Yeah. That was another good moment. Yeah. End of a era. Recession indicator. Rihanna in long sleeves. But I like how she's like settled into her role as a responsible and doting mom. She's having a chaotic weed smoking horror. Yeah. I love when she rolled the blonde on her bald bodyguard's

head sitting on his shoulders. That was the. best thing she ever did. Love to see it. Who's next? Next. L.D. Lina. Lina and Valentino. I love it. I love it. Me too. And she has the classic Valentino rock stud pumps, which you would think would be like

not her thing, but she's making it work. It's dazzling. It's dazzling. Did you see on the Vogue live stream she said it was like it's inspired by the painting of Judith cutting off. Oh, yeah. But she's the blood that's coming out. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm going to pause.

Whoever it is to go away. Okay, I'm pausing. I know, it's my landlord's like son or cousin. He's like checking in on a leak. Well, not now. Nope. I know. It's night time. It's always funny to go to like

beautiful white people, Connecticut and then get deposited back in the ghetto have to deal with like weeks and roaches. Living the light. Lena, Lena. And it's like, yeah, like, Megan was trying to shit talk at. No way. It's like, I get it as Eve, you know, it's like, but that's her whole thing.

She's made herself this, like, spectacle. And like, this bull's eye, yeah. Yeah, you take the bait, like, that's on you. Yeah. If you can't see that she's, like, a female genius. Right, right. But she's actually, like, a. not, she's not like leaning into

lean into anything like ugly or grotesque. She's actually like channeling old Hollywood glam. Completely. And it's also very protected, which is like where she's at in her career after being so exposed. No, it says a lot. And I would have loved to have seen her. Like I saw a couple of takes going around in a collaboration with Michaela Stark. Uh-huh. Who is another designer who I actually really unironically love.

And she does a lot with like. eroticizing the bound body and she does all of this. I saw that. Yeah. With the belly out. Yeah. Like this like aestheticized spillage and like building new silhouettes of body fat, which is actually quite interesting and non-ideological way.

Yeah. I know. I love that. It reminds me of this Polish female artist called Alina Sipajnikov who had like, you know, a tragic and tormented life and Polish. Polish the whole time. And she made amazing traditional

marble busts of big breasted, big bellied women like hearkening back to classical sculpture but with like a modern feminist spin. So I'm guessing that Michaela Stark is like directly referenced. Yeah, she must be. But like her work is really interesting. And it's like one of the few instances where she

addresses like fuller forms in like apolitical way like it really just is simply visually interesting what she's doing and we've done a couple of like museum exhibitions together and like her work is just always so eye-catching and sensorial and atmospheric it's it's great it would have been really fun to have seen like a moment it is like erotic and sensual wait this is the word yes it's very much that oh yeah oversized huge but i understand but i understand I understand why she went this direction. Me too. 100%. Because she's already been so... Yeah.

Really cool. It's fun and it's just like she did a collaboration with Victoria's Secret a couple of seasons ago, which was super like progressive in all the right ways. I mean, it's very contemporary. Yeah. Cardi B could never. Like the corsetry element of it all is just so... Yeah, I think she's really exciting and I'm happy to see her here. But I like that Lena Watt with like a kind of...

of beautiful and classic look and didn't try to like humiliate herself or do body horror. Yeah, yeah. I like her makeup a lot, like how stark it is. The bleached eyebrows are back. Yeah, cool. And yeah, I love the burn marks and ingrown scars on her leg. Yeah, she's really like. She's showing us a little bit of her wounds, which obviously she could have cut.

covered up. Yeah. Yeah. But then, yeah, she's armored. Yeah. And it reminds me a little of like, honestly, like Toulouse LaTrecque's paintings and prints of like French prostitutes. Totally. Totally.

So true. She's amazing. I'm so happy to see her thrive. Mm-hmm. Girls uplifting girls. Yep. Next slide. Our girl.

Hunter. And the next slide also is the train. It's a gorgeous. It's my, her and Kendall are my favorite. Yeah. She looks incredible. And they both, yeah, have ripped white. Yeah. The dress is confounding in all the right ways. You're not meant to look directly at it. It's like one of those things where you just take in the full vision and you don't let your eye rest anywhere in specific and it just totally works. You don't let your eye focus on the AGP stare. No, but like the tears and the dress are just so seemingly discordant and dissonant and bizarre. They don't make sense the way like real... It makes sense. The way that like real tears kind of don't make sense in a way. She looks amazing.

The glam. Oh, the glam. The whole look is very dash accord. Yeah. It's unbelievable. I'm of love. She looks like Miss Hoover. like she escaped some kind of shanty town from the 1930s.

But this is like a direct reference to like a little girl and a Gustav Klimp painting. Ooh. Yeah. Which also is like, really? It's like a horny, gooner, pedophile fantasy thing. But I don't, that makes it better. Yeah. Honestly, that makes it even better than we're just.

That's what we like degenerate art is. It's like kind of like true and attractive. and like it's so good. Yeah. Yeah, it's uncanny and confounding. But also like classically satisfyingly pretty too. It's really, really the fabric I love. You can see like her.

A ditsy floral. I haven't seen a ditsy floral I liked in so long. Ever since the EV mag sundress came out. Well, remember the look Kim did like many mat gals ago that was like the carpet dress with the fully gloved hands and it was like moral. Yeah, where she looked like a couch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great.

Yeah, it's like upholstery chic, yeah. But I like this because it's kind of referential to when they took the sugar sacks in the 30s. It's like, this just gives me great depression. There's something about this. It's just so, like we did a show about the themes of the Great Depression last season and there's something about it that just feels so now. Totally. They would repurpose the sugar sacks because they came in these like beautiful floral textiles. and turn them into like

women's wear fashion because nobody could afford fine textiles. That was a great show. Thank you. Thank you, girl. Thank you. Honestly. It also reminds you one of my favorite JSS paintings,

which is like the little girls' fashioning paper lanterns in their yard. It is very like Lolita kinder horror. Mm-hmm. She looks amazing. She looks so milky. and cherubic. I love her coloring.

It's just for me. It's when she did the wind-swept Prada thing too. It's a Prada is doing very, very, very, very good things. And I didn't put her in this. But Carrie Mulligan also was wearing Prada and this is interesting like star. No one really looked at it because I went through the whole Vogue thing. I should have put it in because it was kind of a minor. I already pay for Vogue.

Business expense. Nice. You know. I have to ask my friends to read my own reviews. I'll give you the law, you I don't want it. Okay. Well, the other thing that I would say for this look and for Hunter Schaefer in general

is that the Met Gala in recent years has been besieged by delisters. It is a very like poor and tacky and ghetto event now. And she actually always looks really expensive. Yes. Which is not very tranny, coated of her. Thank you.

It's a risky dress, too. It's risky. It's working. It's working. It reminds me my wedding dress. Not the one you make with the other one with the pop's sleeve. Wait, why do you say it's risky? Because it, I don't see it making sense on paper.

It's something that you would struggle to convince a client of if you had to show them a 2D design. It's something that feels like it was really constructed. in the round. And there are a lot of like happy accidents that would be really hard to, um, you know, just imagine in the naked mind. Like it's something that you would have to kind of come across in experimentation on the form. On, on that six foot two. Yes. That helps. The, the, honestly, the, the, the model's pretty big. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. She's like exactly the same height as any sort of model. Like a bit more?

Yeah, yeah. Or like even the, I remember when you were making my dress. I was so small. You couldn't use the, you couldn't drape the fabric on the form. We had to, we used. Oh my God, we used a stuffed plastic bag.

I forgot all about that. That's so funny. But as you were saying, like, also with art and experimentation, in great works of art, there's an element of like, grace and that can all kind of only happen with like I don't know Premeditation yeah that ruins it

because when you're not experimenting in the form you're only designing what you can conceivably imagine in your head what you're going to 3D print for some Chinese person to wear I kind of didn't yeah there's a couple because I did there's a whole like what's his name Jason oh Robert won Robert he he sure won the night he did he did He did, he did. There was a whole section on him later, but mostly I didn't include the Chinese people because they made me feel demoralized. You know? What do you mean?

Same way. Just like, they're not American celebs. They just are rich. It's China's world. We're just living in it. Yeah. They're just 3D printing looks. Yeah.

You know, it's like, okay. They love those like anthropomorphic hands. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of that, wasn't there? Yeah. Moving on next.

Yeah. I'm telling you there's a lot. Dojica and Santa R. Y'all know I live for like something sticky. I love a used condo. I love a used condo. The color is stunning. The textile is really, I love rubber.

Yeah, the fit is not good. It's not. But I fuck with the vision. It doesn't do or any favors, yeah. The traping is kind of good in an abject way for the silicone because it doesn't. It's not silo. And so it does kind of like condomily like wiggle in this way. Yeah.

And when I saw her moving, it made sense. All the pictures kind of don't do it justice. You're right. When I saw her moving and it was kind of like shimmering and look, it looked like wet. Wet and kind of like Cronenbergian. Yeah. Yeah. I think in like a still photograph it just looks like Miami stripper.

Yeah. But like long. For the Avian Award. Yeah. I love to see Doja at the Magela. She's surviving her Samson trauma. If she can do it, I can do it too. And she's also just such a beautiful woman.

She's, I love Doja. Even my mom be like DMing me like, oh, who's that girl, Doja, Doja, Kid? What's a good idea. Dasha cat. That's so funny. Because the year that I went, she was wearing the cat prosthetics. Oh, yeah. That was funny.

What was the theme that year? Oh, Carol Lagerfeld. Oh. That was a good theme. That was a good theme. Yeah, it was cute. This also kind of reminds me of our ill-fated numero shoot with Hagee, because it was a bunch of latex. Yeah.

And so it's like very like. It wasn't ill-fated. My parents had that picture of me pushing my tits together. It was framed in their home. They're very proud of that photograph. Their marital bed. That's really sweet, actually. I have so many pictures of, like, of that in my house.

Like, my mom has so many pictures of me, like, looking like a 15-year-old whore in my prom dress, like, in her home. Yeah. That's sort of, like, wholesome artifact. Well, after the Heidi and Lenny scandal of them, like, modeling for Intimacy or whatever, where all the right wingers were melting down. Why didn't she bring her daughter and pour her out? I wanted to see them rubbing their huge tits together on the red carpet. I'm surprised that she didn't bring Lenny or her equally sexy, by the way, black daughter. Who right-wingers also love to dunk on even though she's just as hot.

Yeah, they look great as a trio. Yeah, should have brought them both instead of making about her selfish clown show. Her Teutonic Kit Kat Bar German Swinger Party vibes thing Well speaking of Heidi Klum Actually what's nice about the Met Gal I'm realizing As we're doing this is that it is like It has the

Satisfying pull of like a project runway For sure Yeah and you get to be the judge In your like Walmart You sit around at home in your Walmart With your cystic apping It's a boy cattle event of the season. This bitch looks chopped.

I don't know. So satisfying. And it's not even their fault because they're usually like paid. Totally. To even go, they have to like agree to wear something. Yeah. And they just are like and then. Well, that's the thing.

Anna decides like which celebrity is paired with which brand. And yeah, fashion's really struggling right now. So like all the looks that you're seeing are all super, you know, highly funded. highly funded by brands with a very specific return on investment. When I went to the Saga Awards, I got... And that's why I didn't get picked a dress, not because I'm in jail, okay? No, I had my fun at the Mug Gala. You'll be there.

If you go there... Yeah, no, no, it's fun. I loaned a lot to the after-party, so... There you go. Next season. And a lot of people who said they weren't going... Ended up at the after party. 100%.

Of course they did, yeah. So. Tate. I like it. You like too. I never really liked her. And then I saw her, I was like, hold on. She's so sexy as fuck.

I was like, actually, Tate McGrady. She's like, I love her tan. And this dress is such a nice color and fits her body. Yeah. She looks like a dental hygienist from New Jersey. Yeah. And like the best false. That's the appeal.

She's like Teresa Judey. Melissa Gorga real housewives of New Jersey. She looks like she plays volleyball. She looks so fucking good. I like it from the waist down. Like the feather, the bodice, the bra top, silhouette kind of takes away from the beauty of the skirt.

It pushes her tits up and this nice. I don't think she really quite understood the assignment. Yeah. No, hell no. But she's like playing to her strengths and like inspecting her brand and all. She does like. look good. She also looks like a big ass bitch, which I like

to see. She's sexy. Yeah. Anyway, that's all. And that's also a brand like I bought on essence once or something. Ludovic. I think so. Oh, I have an amazing Zara X. Ludovic San Cernin.

It's like mid-market. Pony hair duster. Okay. It was crazy. Is it here? Yeah, it's here. You should put it on. I might. I might model. I got rid of the blast I got it, just had like long strings.

And it kind of was ill-fitting. But the fit is fucking nice on that. Whatever. She looks great. She's like if whatever podcast was a girl. That's so true. And she's starving. I've never listened to a second of her music, honestly.

It's good. I just listened to NetSpen for the first time. Where was he, by the way? Right, right. Now Tate's music is, it's good She's like an incredible movement artist Yeah, I've seen her dancing And maybe I've hit play a couple of times

But I think mostly the sounds days off Yeah For me Valid Same moving on Sabrina Sabrina Sabrina Carpenter and the Dior film strip dress

I wish I'd put more pictures in Because from the side it's got kind of a weird It's a little more interesting I don't mind it. I don't mind it either. I understand where they're going with this because she's got this like you-hoo boys ass old Hollywood. Yeah. She gets a lot of flack because people are always like, well, you know, men love Sidney and women love Sabrina Carpenter,

but she's just like not sexy or hot. But like her body looks banging for like a 4-11 short. Exactly. That's the thing that dress really suits proportion. Lily Rose Depp could learn a thing from Sabrina Carpenter. She does have very elegant proportions. for like a Randy Newman short person. And the only thing that...

She's probably a legal dwarf. They didn't even need to get the other dwarf. She's like, Jeanette Burke. I like that she's clearly wearing like gigantic, like nine-inch platform. Yeah. She has to. She's tiny. The only thing that that kind of throws the whole look is the stupid flapper headpiece.

The headpiece. I don't know why she did that. Should have just did a, like, a film strip, Bad Bander, Tierra. Yeah. A little less. Yeah. She does have like a Jessica Rabbit kind of eyes.

Exactly. Exactly. It's like very old glamour 30s film noir sort of. And she could have done a flapper hairdo. Yeah. Without the cap. Yeah, but the brand pay for the. I know.

I mean, I know. We're talking about it like it's up to her. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's. But isn't it? Don't you as a celebrity have some discretion and decision making? You can veto stuff, but like they just add enough.

another zero to the check. She can, like, when I went to the SAG Awards, I wore one valentino dress that I had one. I was going to wear a Brock collection dress I bought off the real braille, and my publicist said, Valentina will give you this one dress. And so I was like, and she's like, we didn't really wear it. And I just said. Yeah. And I went to like a MoMA Chanel gala, and they gave me like two options. Really? They just give you nothing. I saw Chloe Savon talking about this interview recently. What did she say? That's so interesting. That in her early career, a lot of what people think is her style is actually just kind of like

shouldn't have a stylist. The limitations of the brands. And she had a publicist who would pull maybe one thing for her and that's what she had to wear. Right. And so like she's... Interesting.

Crazy. Yeah, because my understanding is that like they pay the stylist to put together a rack for them. And then they can pick and choose what they like off of the rack. But if you don't have that Two options

The rack is like a hundred options I never had no stylus That's the thing That's what I hate about it Is that it's like literally a lottery ticket So a stylist When you give a piece to a stylist They have a hundred other things

And so it's like literally That is so It's so it's so exploitative I know and then they ask me to cover Shipping Round Trip And it's just like That is ridiculous That is crazy

Ugh this like opportunity economy is so it's so unsustainable. Yeah, so true. So I don't know if it's a good one alone. But she looks good. She looks good. Now that I'm looking at it, just the shoes and the headpiece. The shoes in the headpiece.

The shoes are bad. They're just not working together. But the middle section looks good. The dress is nice. And I saw it's real film strips from the film Sabrina. Oh, that's cool. And she had her nail tips also were like it was a French manicure, but the tips were like little film strips too.

Oh, that's cute. And I guess she's doing kind of a quirked up version of the sculptural bodice. Yeah, huge night for tits. But like hard, inaccessible. Right, yeah.

Hard outer shell. Speaking of, Haley, no. No. Who told you that? First of all, she's the go-to in the soft autumn color season community, she is the go-to.

She's always, it's like, Haley-Beevers a soft-on-em, soft-on-em, soft-on-mom, soft-on-um, she looks best in, like, muted, warm tones. Yeah. I guess she didn't get the memo. She doesn't have the same algorithm I do. I don't know. I don't have anything to say. The silhouette's nice. I have nothing nice to say. No.

I think if she had just gone with the gold torso and played off of that, that could have been something. but I don't know why they did like the Wonder Woman clashing tones. Ikea look. The color way is not good. And even the bodice, she didn't know, I guess, that the Kardashians were going to do their like their like skins corset thing. I could have seen that. And I happened to have seen her right after Kylie.

And so that was like in the, you know, and it felt. That's why I have to go early in the night. Mm-hmm. And it felt like shady. Like I was like, ugh. I was like, it just like looks cheap and jerry-rigged. I guess that's like she said it's sculpted. She said it's like sculpted to her real body.

But aren't they all? No. Like even the skims ones are just like that's what they sell at the skim store. I just like wearing. I just know so many other designers who are doing this in a much more, you know, integrity-driven way. Like I would have recommended somebody like Misha Jop-on-Wall. who, you know, casts, like, actual women's bodies out of plaster and does really interesting things. I mean, she claims they did that, that they took the mold and made the...

It just looks so flat. I mean, the midsection looks good. And then the rest of it is kind of just, like, trash. It looks very, like, Middle Eastern Mother of the Bride wedding shift in the top. And she's too hot and too young for that. Way too. Yeah. So true.

I like how she has Andrew Bolton in the back holding her. Who that is? The curator of the vet. That's probably not him, but it's a funny thought. Next. No, Charlie. I guess a lot of Hose were up in St. Laurent. Yeah, he was a prolific designer this year.

Not St. Laurent, but whatever his name is, you might know. Eve? No. What is this? What? The guy who's running St. Laurent now. Is it Anthony Vacerole? Yeah, that is.

I hate fashion. I don't follow fashion. No, I don't want to. It's, yeah, it's Foucala. So all the St. Laurent looks are his. She looks nice. I mean, she looks nice. She looks nice.

I hate it relative to her last year look, which was like the ripped T-shirt, full-body dress. Which Kendall kind of did this year. Yeah, Kendall did like a more glamour. Her body's too, like, sexy for this dress. Maybe she's trying to do something like more sedate and highbrow. This is like the sort of dress that you can get at Windsor. Right, right. It is also very like New Jersey mob wife. Her daughter, Meadow Soprano. I guess Charlie XX is fundamentally at the end of the day a meadow soprano kind of girl. It's got a flower apoleque. It's inspiring. Go, girl, give us nothing. She looks nice.

Gorgeous skin, gorgeous hair. I don't, I'm sick of this. With Haley Beaver too, I'm sick of the snatch. Hi, pony. I know why they do it, but it's like, I don't know. Something. Something else. Another thing I like about Hunter Schaefer is I like the loose.

Yeah. They were more sculpted at the gala, but, you know, just like having just like kind of. of nice hair. Yeah. I like the tight. Or a nice way. Or a nice wig.

But only if you, if you are like a spare and masculine looking woman. Yeah. And she's like very voluptuous and feminine. Yeah. I wonder what like, I wonder what her brand is going through after like the brat era. After her like documentary. Exactly. Have you seen that?

I haven't seen it. I want to see it. I want to see it. I guess people really hated it and thought it didn't hit. But like, I bet it'll age well. This is like an obvious counterpoint to something. I like the idea of her.

Well, yeah, she wiped her whole. Worst person ever version of herself. People were like, she finally unfollowed Anna and Dasha. And it was like she unfollowed. She would did the zero follower account thing. And I was like, okay, she's up to something. That's fine. The black washes are out.

Wouldn't have done it. You think so? Yeah. Not that. Not like that. I don't know. Stiling. She's given fortune teller.

A little bit. A little bit. Sylvia Brown, Cor. Get that check. Cordy. Cordy. She looks amazing. We're going to catch hands over this one.

I think she's incredible. I love it. I love it. I think she looks like the BBL exploded. Yeah. Anal polyps. Whatever. I said to you ladies in the group chat, millennials getting colorectal cancer. Yeah, colorectal cancer is major right now. I love it. I think like the scale and the proportion and like what it says about the uniqueness of how she's concocted her own body and like engineered her own form. It's, it's a fun conversation. And I think that that, I think it's cool. I think it's really nice. I love the idea of the different color like padding. And the reference to.

it's like shapeware and all of these crazy body hacks girls are trying to do to mimic the BBL. I mean, yeah, it looks really diseased in a way that it's intriguing to me. You know, like the pink splotches and the flesh. Like it could have, if it had the same silhouette without like the color under the lace. Yeah, I hate, yeah, the Miami tier color palette. I don't, I like that. I don't hate it. But it's Cardi.

Yeah, I know. I know. She's also. And it's kind of interesting for her. And it's Mark Jacobs. They had fun. It looks great. I love it.

If I may autistically spurred for a minute. One of the things that, like, grinds my gears is that you have all these fashion houses, putting many different looks on the red carpet. And they're all very inconsistent. And I think, like, they should try to stick to a coherent narrative, across celebs. And like, so, okay, like Rachel Senate was also wearing Mark Jacobs. Like, Haley Bieber and Doja Cat in St. Laurent, like, totally disparate.

Yeah. Like, they're not really representing their brands. They weren't coming from the same, like, aesthetic language. Yeah, of the house, right. Sure. Yeah, it feels like very random and willy-nilly. I'm willing, I guess, I don't know. I'm divided.

But I also miss the old Cardi, like, the love and hip hop. Of course. She's got involved. Yeah. Though she's always been very, like, I guess, candid and honest about how she, like, got herself some new teeth and some new tities and stuff as soon as she got her bag, which is nice. Next. Oh, speak of the dead. Another Mark Jacobs said it and Mark Jacobs.

Yeah. Do you guys remember that show Doug? For the 90s? Of course. I do. Where like all the characters is like Rita and Skeeter and Doug and Pat and they've got this like 90s cartoonesque color blocked flesh and like really blocky. Nickelodeon. Yeah.

Nickelodeon American Apparel. Yeah. Obviously. Shoplifting from Whole Foods. But there's something about that universe that, like, translates to me when I look at Rachel Senate. And so, like, it works for me on her. But the dress. You're saying she's cartooning.

There's something, like, very retro 90s cartoon-esque. I hate it. Me too. I feel like she didn't have a choice. Yeah. I feel like Mark Jacobs said, this is it. And she's working it. And I'm happy for her.

I'm happy she's there. But she doesn't look like she's loving what she's there. Yeah, sure. It's like bizarre and disjointed. I had a Doug funny reference queued up because, you know, we were talking about how, like, Anna Wintor wore the same gown and cape combo. Yeah. Two times in a row. And she really is like Doug Funny where he opens his closet.

Just like the uniform. Yeah, but she did it in teal. Yeah. No coincidence whatsoever to the billionaire Matt Gala. But she's, we're not there for her. Yeah. You know, she's even on the, but when I went through the. Vogue rundown. She was down super

far. She's not... I know, but there's something also, like, really funny and ironic about the fact that, like, Anna Winter is probably the single most influential fashion person of our lifetimes. Like, she's the taste maker, the kingmaker, whatever,

and she just has such horrible style, but you have to respect her because she... Commitments a little bit, year after year after year. She thinks she knows what works for her, and she just does it year in and you're out. I mean, I think it's like, yeah, when you're really good at something, you aren't, you know, it's not necessarily the thing you're best at for yourself. Yeah. Anyway. I also, okay, I'm like zooming in on Rachel Sennett's foot and the shoe is like a size too big for her because, you know, she probably wears like a 39 and they gave her a 40.

I'm saying she, they said, get out there. Yeah. Don't forget your hat. Oof. Beyonce. Olivier Rustinig. Hosting. Just tedious. Just we get it.

So busy. So busy. Your Illuminati. We get it. Halo. Mayan. There's just so many different references. Like, is it Di de los Verlos?

You know I hate that. You know that's one of my least favorite aesthetic. And wait, this is her? First time at the Metgala after the famous elevator incident. Is it really? Is that true? I don't know. Thanks, but I know.

She's got to be there every year I bet. I read that she was back after a decade. Oh. I hate the Frida Kahlo De Los Marto, Skeleton. Hate that. Hate the Ombray bodice. Not a fan of Ombray in general. I was like hovering over a prodig blazer on the real real because it looked really

cute and snatched, but it was like, Ombray, and then I was like, what am, what are you doing? Get a life. I've been, randomly been listening to a lot of Beyonce. Have you? What era? Yeah, what? Like the, well, somewhere between the drunk and love and formation era. Hmm.

I've been like butt chugging the lemonade. Lemonade was major for me. She had that line where she was like, yeah, hate her scorny with the Illuminati mess. But she like loves, she loves for her. She's a member of the other hand.

She's playing right into their hand. You know, she knows what she's doing. Yeah. She knows that they're going to say it's, yeah, she's doing like satanic spectacle or whatever. She's like the Erica Kirk of pop stars.

I mean, because she's like so goddamn unlikable but can't help her somewhere. Virgo. Right. Virgo. It is funny how like the two biggest black pop stars of our time, Beyonce and Rihanna, are much like Dosh and me, a Virgo and a Pisces. Lots of think about there. We're very similar.

I just don't get the motif. I don't understand like the bones or the like what game of thrones? Like it's just too much to dig into and confused and confounded. That's a close. Her face looks like Madonna-esque. I mean, I can't, you know, take a woman to task for aging. God knows, but just a mess. There was like a photo of her and Blue Ivy together.

And they just like look like black church ladies. Blue Ivy had the sunglasses. and yeah, and like the big white dress. I just don't understand like the showgirls motif. Blue Ivy is apparently. It's not art. Yeah. First of all, that's a person to attend the Matt Gallo.

She was what? She's the youngest person to attend the Matt Gallo. Oh, really? Yeah. How old is she? 14. Wow. Mm-hmm.

How old is? Blue Ivy. Nobody saw that coming because she's kind of cute. Yeah. She's 20. I don't know exactly. And with Jay Z's her dad. 19 to 25. I have no clue, actually. I wonder if they have to get like special permits to get underage people into the MacGella.

It's probably probably got it done. Rules don't lie. They let you do it. Nicole Kimman said her daughter had to go to school the next day. I think she's maybe high school age as well. Mm-hmm. Huh. But a little bit older than blue eye beam. Anoke. Anokiae and Valencia. I love. Unbelievable. I love. This was really, I felt slept off. Maybe because she's black. I don't know.

She looks amazing. Incredible. I mean, black Madonna. It's like very Adriano Chelantano's daughter in Passion of the Christ. Mm-hmm. Well, the next side I think is her too. I think this, yeah. Oh, no, no, it's not.

She's wearing a custom silicone wig. Yep. Which is so effective. It really like. It looks so good. She looks like she's cast out of marble. And then the, yeah, her complexion with the gold dust. Yeah.

Yeah. Glam is phenomenal. And I like how she was doing like two references, the Greco-Roman sculpture and then also like religious sculpture with like the Madonna with the tears. Yeah. But I'm going to be a hater and say that like the whole look doesn't really. coalesce for me. Like, it is really beautiful and she looks great because she's just like a naturally beautiful woman. But I wish that she had gone more with the bronze age pervert look. Well, she's literally, she's literally a model. Yeah. You know, so they are, they're dressing her. This is just a

Balenciaga look that she happens to be modeling. Yeah, yeah. She's not like expressing something. Yeah, but it would have been so cool to just like cast her in bronze. Mm-hmm. And do like a Yeah, like a full marble statue. Like the necklace is taking away from the leather glove. Yeah, yeah, that's too much. I think so. I like the gloves. They remind me of some gloves I wore.

Someone's gone to the wind salon. Oh, yeah, we were wearing some clothes. And I like, for me, it's very, it feels very cohesive. This is kind of what I wish Rihanna were doing, though. Yeah. Yeah, just like drape the hood. Yeah, like if you could have. Drape the hood over your black.

Just put the hood on. To accentuate your blackness also. And you'll notice I picked up the background on this side is black. Nice. Because she's black and the dress is black. Just felt right. Balenciaga. That's nice.

What does the necklace say? Is there a letter on that or is it like a tear? No, I think it's just like a pen. Oh, it's a tear shape. Nice. I like the necklace because it makes the religious thing. Without the necklace, it feels almost Muslim or something. thing. But then the necklace makes it more

Baroque and Catholic. Which is what the like Madonna thing is. Yeah, it's a little bit like confusing and flashing for me personally. But again, just because she's so gorgeous, she can carry it. You see the potential. Is she wearing contacts? Probably, yeah. Bronze gold contacts. So cool. Look like an isomyal lip.

Kendall. Or sorry, fuck. I put the wrong name. My bad. People get it. Don't even figure it. Kendall Scaperrelli? That's her name.

So this is Kendall Scaparelli. Name of Grey's real name. Kendall Scaparelli. Amazing. They own new job. I don't know. I don't know. It's not hitting.

It's my hitting. You guys don't like this. Well, she's doing the skim's nipple bra thing. I just feel like the dress isn't... There's no dress. There's... It's not art fully draped where it comes away from the body. It just looks like it's peeled off.

And there's a... There's a missed opportunity there. Nipple body suit underneath. Yeah, you want to be shocked and titillated by the idea of her really not wearing the dress on top. And like the materiality of the bodice just doesn't communicate that. Like, if it were out of silicone or out of some sort of like a prosthetic, then it would be really shocking and dazzling. Yeah, if it were like mimicking her natural skin tone and texture. Or blended into the chest somehow.

Yeah, why couldn't even they, why couldn't they just make a custom skim's body suit that was her skin color? Even that would have been. They could 3D print that shit. But like, look at the dress. It's just like peeling over. It's just not artfully deconstructed on the body. You want to feel like there's a sensual moment where she's taking it off. Looks like what?

Like a cod piece. It's like a clod piece. Like it's interesting. Like it's interesting sort of to see the dress inside out. Yeah. But like in such a casual way, it's like what's the point? I like the concept, but the execution is lacking. Yeah, I agree.

Don't mind the makeup. This is like a very like avant-garde and high fashion look for her. Because she's usually more like conservative in her styling decisions. That's still kind of conservative. No Timothy. He was at the Nixon game. Yeah. I get it.

Wigger's got to do what he's going to do, you know? He's not going to miss that. Yeah, the bleached grow. I didn't really, it was unsettling because you see her face so much that I didn't clock it at first and kind of was like, she look weird. Yeah. The theme of the Matt Gala is old whores. What is skims up to? What are they doing?

Making nipple bras. Yeah. What are they doing? Making body suits and nipple bras and stuff. because I thought the nipple bra was a flaw. Are they making like a big push? Is there a campaign? I think they dropped it and it kind of flopped and maybe they're trying to revive it and maybe it'll work.

It'll work 100% whatever they. But like I don't want to wear a bra that has fake hard nipple. Around here. No. Crazy. I mean, it's just not my, you know, aesthetic. It's not, it's not giving AGP the way I like. I guess I like the handsome men in the back.

ground that's always fun Kim Kim I grouped them y'all didn't like this I like it I liked the like The hair was a missed opportunity Willem Allen Jones and Malam Whitaker that's and Whitaker

And that's and That's not his name Because she did a shoot with Nadia Lee Cohen where she had these beautiful like bronze browns brown I liked the photos Yeah too and the makeup there and I hated that they like, well, I don't love this look, but they, um, they should have done the copper hair instead of the brassy blonde hair.

I don't know why they went with that. I hate the shoes with the look. I know. Yeah, that's, that's just wrong. The back. I don't have nine West shows shoes. The back looked awful. What was the back? It was just like there was these like leather straps and then her body just looked kind of like ridiculous and, um, I mean, I just think Bianca Sensori is like haunting her Which is ironic because Bianca Sensori is like Kanye is like, you know, my bitch a reference as he said Like he's referencing Kim through Bianca But then it's like work, it's like getting in her head And she's like doing the fembaugh Bianca thing

But it's not who she is No She's lost The hemline is wrong On the skirt Yeah, it should be longer Yeah. Weird choice.

And in the, and something in the back, too, like, behind the fabric, just, I don't know. There's just something about it that feels very unencumbered, which feels aspirational to me. Like, she looks like she could get up and go somewhere and, like, go through her night. I don't know. No way. She looks like an orange M&M. She looks safe and she looks like. She can't take that odd.

She looks like when you, like, dump your change in the change machine at West. Eastern beef. What? I don't like, yeah, the tarnishing. In a photo, in like a stylized photograph, like the tarnished quality around the tits and stuff. I don't know. It's not even tarnished enough.

Is the bullet bra silhouette back? I hope not. It's got to have some correlation to like GDP. What's that? The shape of the breast to like the economy. Yeah, we want, and war. Yeah. We want like missiles.

Yeah, you want milkers. Yeah. crazy. People want to breastfeed because they're not getting enough sustenance and nutrition. Mommy milkers are back. What's that fucking movie franchise kids love? Cars. She looked like cars.

She looked like cars. It's my favorite, my favorite Kim was the wet. Oh, yeah. With the drops. For me? Her rib removed for that. Allegedly. I don't know. Can you not have a rib removed when you do a course that small?

I mean, the optical. I don't know. That was great. Whatever it was worth. It was amazing. I mean, this is just. And I like her blonde, actually. I can't breathe. Next. What's next? Armenians to be having those wide rib cages. Kendall. For real this time. Wow. My fave. The more I looked at it, the more absolutely 100% my favor. besides the

Even with the skim's nipple bra That's a lot to make a concession for But then I was like But what? I don't know I'm not a fashion designer Like what else would I do? Just dump them out I kind of just would just dump it out

Yeah and like bifurcate the breast With the seam of the neckline Like Shalom Harlow That would have been nice Yeah I guess it's kind of cute and sisterly That Kendall and Kylie were matching On the red carpet

Yeah I'm saying red carpet too much this episode. I mean, it's like off ramp. She also had a pair of wings that she was wearing for images. Yeah, that was like the Zach Posen. Yeah, Zach Posen. Yeah, Zach Posen's alluded during the Vogue stream that there would be a surprise. Well, he said, and the statue has wings, too, so there will be a surprise.

So you kind of knew that she was going to have a wing moment. Yeah, of course. But it worked. It looked fantastic. It's amazing. The materiality is incredible. It's a T-shirt. It's like a T-shirt. It is a T-shirt. That's what he said. When he had the vision and he started, he kept saying twisting and torquing the fabric. And it's so Gap.

It's so cool. It's so Gap, right? Gap's back. Yeah. I love it. But it is like a throwback to the Charlie X-EX dress from last year. But better. But better. because it's more like simple and more yeah and it's yeah the color is so great too it's not this like stark white it's like a bone yeah it almost has like a grain yeah yeah crown molding but it looks

he went to mood right yeah he went to mood and he looked at all the fabrics but the materiality just looks so like comfortable and juicy and lightweight but the weight but the way that it's tailored and like the construction of the corsetry is so it's an amazing tromploy in that sense it is yeah it's fantastic where she really is so constrained but it's so effortlessly draped that it just all comes together look like a jersey dress exactly yeah and it probably is I mean technically but I bet there's out here mixing high and love and she's easy on the eyes Love the makeup. Yeah.

Love the dress, the color, the silhouette, whatever. I cannot say that it hits for me because if the skims hit. It's a lot. It kind of ruins it. What would you do? I would have just dumped it out. Dump it out, yeah. Of course.

Some kind of like sheer, like sheer. Like a mash. Mashed boning. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. To do all that. Or just glue it just above the nipple if you really want.

barely, yeah. Yeah, the bra just really takes away from it. Anyway, who's next? Isol. I think she looks incredible. Yeah, really, I'm glad you. She looks incredible. Beautiful.

And she inspired a lot. She's way cooler than Lizzo. Who is she? She's a Paris-based singer. And she's got this really cool, dark goth, grunge aesthetic. She inspired a lot of the looks in the collection. She had this absolutely iconic.

God, who does the suiting? Was it Yvesanara or Gautier? She's got this incredible, like, tailored look that's in the actual met. But this looks amazing. It fits her beautifully. This is, like, what the Haley Bieber look should have been. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I love the styling. It's very Venus of Willendorf. Mm-hmm. but like soft. Yeah. Even with like the hardness of the materiality, it feels still like very sensual and floral. Yeah.

You can imagine like, like, impressionists in Mon Marcha encountering this woman and being like, whoa, mind blow. Right. She's a goddess. I mean, it's also just like as an image, it's a whole new, it is art. That's giving art because it is,

you're looking at kind of like a whole new, thing. She has like French cups and then leather gloves underneath. Yeah. And like a keyhole belly button. It's really, really interesting. I wish the bodice matched like the bronze of her skin a little bit more so it felt more seamless. Like I don't know.

Maybe that's just my aesthetic thing. Like I love when you can't tell where the body starts and the dress ends. Dressing the body. What do you call the insectoid like? Yeah. not antlers. No, I know. The brows.

What do you call those? Yeah, antenna. Like a bug. Yeah, she has like bug-like antenna. Which is extremely cool. Yeah, it's like black futurism. Yeah. This would have been one of the few looks where the nipples would have added to the look.

Fake nipples? Yeah. I don't know. Really? Because the belly button is so interesting. Don't you think it would detract from my belly button? I think the belly button is like so good. Yeah.

It really does it for me. I love. That cut that goes under the belly too, because I love the fupah. And, like, the pooch, I love that. You know, that, like, meme that's always going around on the internet of, like, the girl with the fupa. Yeah, where people are like, oh, do you like this? Yeah. Or you're gay.

How can people are, like, you feel? Or men have fought wars for this. Yeah. And I'm, like, kind of, like, cissy hip-node into finding it erod. Really with it. It's really hot. It just depends. There's that picture of Emma Roberts, too, where you.

like the jersey black dress with the sun shining on her. But that's like a postpartum thing, right? I don't know. No, she looks like she could just be like PMSing even. But yeah, she doesn't have a flat stomach, but it's hot. Yeah, yeah. I love that pooch. It's so erotic.

Cool. She looks great. Alex Kansani. Did show nipple. Her coloring looks really cool with this dress, I will say. I found it lazy. You hate it? Well, I can't find a front-facing picture of this picture.

That's true. Yeah. No way. And then also that like decoy dress that she's draping behind her feels so unnecessary. Well, yeah. When I first saw her, when I came across her on the feed, it was like she was draped in the blanket. And I was like, huh? Yeah.

And then I guess, jokes on me. Because she took it like obviously. But still had it as part of the look. She healed the sheet off. But it does just look like a sheet. It doesn't look like an intentional. I guess it's like a taffeta cape, but it doesn't really work. And like there's too many different color families going on.

Like the nude, the black, the opal. If it was like something like sheer and like a tool that was like sheer and iridescent, which I really love, it would be interesting maybe. And more like what she's kind of going for with the feathers and the, you know. I like monochrome color blocking. I like that the hair of the skin, the bodice all is one shade. And the dress is or the skirt bottom is a totally different one. That's, that's my personal aesthetic preference. Sorry they all.

I mean, we're not evaluating their mental health. We're evaluating how they look, okay? And she looks great. Is that father? It sucks being like, yeah. The second hottest tranny on the red carpet that day. It's hard. That we know of.

Yeah. Takes all kinds, you know. They're doing different things. Yeah. I don't hate this, but I don't love it either. It's kind of just like mid. It's fine. Moving on.

Sabine Getty and Oshy's studio. Interesting. It is giving art. Uh-huh. It's like a, you know, they painted the damn dress. It's like if Miss Havisham was a whore. I wouldn't have done the white. Yeah.

Like maybe more of a flag. It didn't even need to be a skirt. It could have just been like a little band-o body suit. Yeah. That would have been very interesting. Yeah. And then blend, again, like blend the bodice neckline into the body. Instead of making it such distinct.

Two totally different universes. Who is this lady? She's a jewelry designer who's presumably a Getty air. I'm assuming she's a Gettier. I think she's a Gettier. I think she's a Gettier. That was my guess. I do actually love her hair and makeup because it's so like haggard and chopped.

Do you know what Ashy Studios is? I don't. But I don't follow fashion. I'm not excited about fashion at all. I like the double hand. I'm obsessed with the construction. The what? The double hand, how it's like her real hand.

And then like a fake hand that's painted onto her. But the skin tone should have meant like the skin tone should have matched. Because you really want to believe it. Yeah. This is very like Memento Mori, and it reminds me of that famous painting. Who made this painting? The ambassadors where like if you walk, God, I know this. Hans Holby and the elder, when you like walk to the side, you see like a skull.

Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. Yeah, it would have been a cool, maybe she's just holding a skull or something and an apple. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, like all of these that do this. Trump-Loy that blend the physical body with the aestheticized body.

Like, you just want to believe it so bad. Just push it a little bit more. A little bit harder. Yeah. Or like it has a little bit of like an art-feeney wedding quality. It's just like so art historical. Yeah. I actually really love this look.

You do? Yeah. Because it's so like scary and decrepit. And it reminds you of like raw and aging. Yeah. It's cool that it's not like them. Like spider cobwebs. The only thing that ruins it.

It's cool that the painting is grotash. Yeah. The shoe is too, like, modern architectural to work with this look. She should have gone with, like, maybe, like, an open toe, like, windy, ankle strap, sandal thing. Something, yeah. I do, like, yeah, that the painting itself isn't, like, it has, like, grit. Yeah. Is it even a painting, or is it, like, a beaded embellishment?

I don't even know what the surface treatment is. I don't know what, or maybe it's... printed on. I guess now that I'm looking at it closer, it's kind of, yeah, intriguing. And she is also so enviably anorexic. She's like the thinnest storm in there. Like the painting of the body is like fatter than she is.

Right. Next. Yeah. Y'all. Sizzah. And bode? Bode. Bodey?

It's, I don't know. There's so much going on. We'll click over to the next side real quick. Just saying. Absolutely not. Totally different. What? Is this real?

That's from years ago, but it's a Nikki look that immediately, of course. Go back. Go back. I thought that was Nikki this year. I was so much. No, Nikki's not getting invited to MacGala anymore. I hate to see it. Sorry.

She's in jail. I saw much of like AIs. of the mechella are like better I know that's the real thing well that's the thing all my favorite looks were fake like a lady Gaga in a garnica dress or like Megan Trainer with like a

painter's palette right out of her hip next year they should just do an AI theme everyone can stay home like what's even the point of the Mechal anymore it used to just be images but the reality is so much more under like underwhelming than the possibility that's created through AI

this is very like Harlem Museum and Berkeley Hendricks. This look. Y'allie, like, black people doing that. It's like the arm wing thing and the peplum and the the thing that really just doesn't work for me is the fact that like the details are so concentrated into these like tiny clusters but are so sparsely and arbitrarily placed on the dress. Day three of an Indian wedding.

You know? Yeah. And we're tired. We're done. Too much. The headpiece, almost interesting. I want to fuck with the headpiece. Yeah.

Yeah. The dress was less like, um, the seam on the body. I saw something that they got the fabric on eBay. It was like, sizzle wear a dress of the fabric from eBay. I was like, yeah, well, well, fucking why. So did every day cut the White House correspondent dinner. Yeah. Yeah.

Why? Uh-huh. Where, but who cares? This is like very like deliberately, I think, like quoting Frida Kalo and all of her paintings where she has like, it's like her, and then she has her heart on. Oh, I guess that's the art. There's, you need degrees of intellectual separation. And I hate the color. I hate the color.

The Marigold's no good. And I like that color. She's hot. This is hot. Her tits look cool. She's a cute woman. And the color on its own is like dees, but like together, it just... Now, the color of the background of the PDF that you chose was a much better choice or truce.

Color theorist. Gotcha. It just comes naturally to me. What can I say? Yeah, that's crazy. I really thought that Nikki had... Because this just totally works, like the silhouette. Yeah.

Like the concentration of the silhouette. Yeah, black girl magic. She looks amazing. It looks like the same carpet, too. That's crazy. I forget what year that was. But yeah, they like to do like a kind of whimsical. She's not invited.

She's not invited. She's a Republican. Yeah, yeah. And Sidney's obviously not invited because she is a Republican. Do you think that's true? I don't know. I don't know because... I think Sidney wasn't invited.

But Zendaya didn't go... There's no way Jeff Bezos, like, co-hosted. Well, not even... Well, yeah. But he's the patron. But it's not really up to him. It's from the largesse of his Amazon estate that we're able to take in these beautiful pictures.

Chase Infinity and Tom Brown. Another, like, not a sculptural bodice, but the tits on the... I've just seen this motif done so many times. I mean, even at this galah. Yeah. Why, everyone's doing this? No, but, like, depicting the Grecian female anatomy on, like, a maxi straight-cut dress. Like a modernist.

It's a T-shirt you buy for a bachelorette party. That's the, it's the same concept. It's dogs playing poker. And she looked so pretty at maybe the Oscars. I forget what it was. Wait, who is this girl? She's the girl from one battle after another. The artistry, probably spectacular, but like the age of image artifice.

It's boring. The primary colors for me are just not it. Yeah. Tom Brown. Always kind of doing a little too much. Well, the thing is that Tom Brown is married to Andrew Bolton, so he knows what the Matt Gala concept is going to be before anyone else. He's also the co-chair.

Lots of gay marriage, too. I guess some same is not engaged to Christian Cowan. Yeah. Every time I, like, see, like, Matt Gala coverage and then, like, the stories follow, I'm like, oh, this is, like, such a. transparent like PR grab. Yeah. Some more successful than others.

Right. It's nice. The construction and the artistry is incredible. Okay. Dong. I wanted you to do. Okay. That looks just like my dad.

Y'all is really scary. It's so scary. Baboni did old, old man, draft. I love it. I love it. Baboni. He should have dressed like a songpiker because they have kind of a similar vibe. I like it to my kids.

I honestly, I didn't clock him right away. That's the thing is when I saw him on the stream, I could tell he's not an actor. So I could tell that was one acting old, but I kind of was like, who the fuck is that? Who's that weird? Like he had a cane and something. He was like acting old. This is how Borikwa's age too. Like he hid it.

It's very, it's goya. It's very like, it's very like, gold Francisco. And he committed, you know, and they asked. And they were like, how long did it take to make this look? He said about a, well, you could do it. He said about 52 years. About 52. Yeah.

He was doing his thing and Zara's cool. That's cool. I got a lot of clothes from Zara. I do too. Isn't Gariano doing something with H&M? Is it, I think it's Zara? Is it Zan M or is it Zara? Is it Zara?

I think it's Zara. I think Ganyx was wearing Gagliano X. Yeah, somebody was doing something. I'm excited for that. Me too. That's going to get snatched up quick. But you can get it on sale because it's unwearable. He's cute.

He looks funny. He looks good. I like it. I expect it. He looks hotter than ever. I like to look at this bad bomb. It's been so. But like.

Me gusto. It's cool because he's not doing like the gay and annoying, like androgynous gender-banding, like masculine body. Gave her pay. Yes. Yeah, the trade, the Bodecourt trade. Mm-hmm. No.

Elegate move. Bon. Okay. So much to say. We got the next one's a really fix-slaid a picture of the bigger look. Should have found a better one. Couldn't do it. The thing is, with this look, you need to look like you smell bad to pull it off.

Let's go back to the first pick. She's actually so skinny because when he's. And she, like, face tunes her picks and puts them on social media, you're like, oh, she's probably, like, fat or at least bloated. But she's actually tiny osteoporosis. I like... I like the intentionality, though. It's referencing a very specific painting about the temptation of St. Anthony. But she looks too clean.

Like, you want to feel like it's greasy and decrepit and... And the reference, too, there's not enough separation. It's like she's literally holding the same, it's the same, you know, it's like it is just too literal of an interpid. I don't like the stark contrast between the black and the gray. Yeah. Like that should have been more ombray. But none of it is, it's literally just all read this reference. And then the, yeah, it's, I hate it.

Do you? Yeah, I hate it. It's too steampunk for you. Yeah. You know, that's another one of my big triggers. Seapunk. Seapunk. She should have done like Versace Medusa because she is Medusa.

Oh, that would have been cool. I get it. Yeah. She should like if I were Madonna, I would have done snakes on my head and a bunch of like boy toys like material girl carrying my like. And since she's got these like Nestle Virgin. No. He's Erica Baddry. So true.

I want to see like Lauren Hill Erica Badu. A hundred percent. Wasn't last year like gay black guy? Yeah. basically. It was like menswear. They might have been around. But she doesn't sell it. It was the black dandy, you know?

Right, right. It literally was gay black guy. And maybe they were there, I don't remember. But I do love that she incorporated like the harem of like virginal young women. It's so like counter to like the Anne Hathaway dismissing the nubile young women from the Devil Wars Prada set. Oh, yeah, people were mad at her because they were like, oh, she's like a hot but aging woman. He was doing introssexual female competition. Yeah.

And she's trying to like cut out the competition. But I actually like don't even think it's that. And she's just like being like woke and progressive and like paying lip service to what. She's being, see, she's such a like straight A student. Yeah. She's like, you know, she's saying what she thinks you want her to say. She's mostly being plotted for. it like she's doing you know it's like that's what she she's like what if we had all kinds of bodies

and like she's not there's not there's not like a thought process there it's just like she's actually trying to like run younger hotter women off the road she seems happy but i like madonna's not afraid of that proximity and she'll like co-op the young bitches she literally she looks like they're she's stealing their adrenochrome yes yes through the veil she's like she's like she's like she's like leaching, yeah, their youth and she's like a very well-preserved kind of, uh... I would have loved to see her trot out her children. I know.

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. She has so many of them and they're all so interesting. Let's talk about this flop. Yeah, Odessa, ASEON and Valentino. Waste down. Want to love it. Boot doesn't work. So bad.

Pasty. Hate the boot with the train. Hate the underboos. The pasties are so kapow. So bad. Hate the like overdone Try Hard Corset Hate her fake black hair Do you think it's fake? It is.

She's definitely like a dirty blonde Because she's blue-eyed and pale Yeah yeah that's people say this about her That she like did like Adola's all kind of Or she like made herself She's a Jewish girl Yeah But she looks yeah

I don't know I don't know about it Waste down it really works Again the boots don't work The pasties don't it Whatever waste sounds nothing There's too much like the The collared the applicates The beading

The boots The tights with the boots Another kind of Rachel Senate moment Where I think she's her star is rising But I think Valentino was like I don't think there was like a collab Yeah This isn't even Valentino

because Valentino is like traditionally pretty like it's a little kind of like bourgeois. I think maybe even just the pasties are Valentino. I'm not sure. It feels very like assembled. I would have like carried the beating that's on the hip all the way up the bodice and turned that into like a dissolving like nipple cover. Even that it feels like it's like a little bit more effervescent coming up the body and not quite so like placed. Yeah, it just, even that would have been so boring. It's really, it's one of the worst ones. The colors are really confusing, too.

Yeah. I wonder what it's referencing. I don't know. If anything, you know? Yeah. And like the neck choker is so. Not. It's bad.

In referencing October 7th. The carnage. Damn. Yeah, I don't know. Hostage Christ. Heidi. We've started to watch. I love it.

I love it. I don't, I mean. I like that she trots out the worm in a different. All the time. She love doing the worm. She loves doing a human sentence. I mean. Neck down.

I'm obsessed. Because she's like, I know I'm known for being a hot top model. So I'm going to make myself as like scary and Germanic as possible. I'm going to grims fairy tale it up. Like I said, I've known too many living statues for this. to even be novel to me. It does look like... I know a guy who does this every...

A guy does this every day. He puts on a Venetian... The Mickey Mouse head. ...and goes and stands in a casino in Las Vegas eight hours a day. That's his job. I mean, the draping and the colors... No, it's all made out of rubber. It's all silicon.

Which is still, you know, whatever, draped in like a... Aesthetic way, but it's not... I want to see. see that wide central European waste in the wild. She should have gone with like an Irina shake. I know. Kind of vibe. Yeah.

At least she's really hot under there. Yeah. She's baking. We get it. You're hot. She's so wetting. And you're all that plastic. Ooh.

Zoe Kravitz and same water. This is what I mean. It's like they're so like all over the place of their looks. Like they can do like Haley Bieber and Dojica. And then they do. Whatever. Fashion is art. She looks like a Moorish princess. She looks incredible.

Fashion's art. You know? So whatever. Yeah. Whatever gets you off. Megan Kelly didn't like this look. Really? She felt that it was too modest and boring.

Oh, shut up. She just, she's not her. It's no, she looks so tasteful. Like, very Elizabeth Juan. I love the brazen lace. Yeah. I love this. She recently got engaged to Harry Stiles.

Yeah. Hiding the left hand, this. It's just kind of cute. It's kind of a cute thing to do, you know? And it like feels intentional. And I love the length. I love that you can't see her feet. Yes.

The gauge of the lace is sexy too. Yeah. Yeah, you can see enough of it. Right. I hate Zoe Kravitz, Harry Styles, PR campaign, where they're like pictured together wearing the row as a lovey-dove couple walking down the street, getting like cafe gratitude. Oh my good.

It's so fake and annoying. Yeah. I mean, what else are they going to do? Hmm? What else? I know, I know, but that's such an annoying thing for me with celebs. Like, I was, I rewatched Mahal and Drive recently. I'm going on like a David Lynch Bender.

Yeah. Just like rewatch the whole filmography. And everybody always says about him like, oh, he was like notoriously like private and introverted and didn't like giving interviews. It's like, come on. was a total media whore who took every opportunity to, like, post videos of himself, like, cooking quinoa.

Give me afraid. Yeah. Fuck. Like, okay, he didn't go out of his way to give mainstream interviews because he was intelligent enough to realize that it was kind of, like, down market and low class.

Too thirsty, but, like, please. I wish you were wearing, like, a monthie. Mm-hmm. Like a male. We hadn't. I felt like there was, So much veiling. You think so?

Like a little something in the hair. Oh, Matt Gallo theme, 2027 Islam. There we got. Ooh, let's go. Okay, Lauren Sanchez in Scaborelli. She's going to too many, like, right-wing political events in D.C. It's very tam-o-o-ish. She doesn't get out much.

She's wearing Amazon. Yeah. It's, but it's, it's, it's, it's, I, Navy's nice. It's fine. Navy's pretty artistic, no? It's not, you know, it's not black. She's hot. She deserves to be there and I wish she had done something a little bit more antagonistic.

She doesn't need to. She's a patron. Yeah. She knows they're there. It's a power move. This is another like Madame X reference because she has, why is with that? Older.

I feel like it's not, it's like what she would have worn. anyway. Theme be damned. Yeah. And it's what she wants to wear and she gets to her what she wants to wear because she paid for the whole fucking thing. I like her. Yeah.

You can kind of see Nicole Kidman next to her. Right. Yeah. Over her like a. It's fine. Her bods looks great. I love to see her elbowing her way into the high fashion world. Yeah.

I guess people were mad because they were like you have like billions of dollars. You can't pay for taste. We can't. We'll circle back. Yeah. Yeah, you can. Let's get through the looks. Rachel Zieglo, what's she wearing?

Honestly, his Vogue didn't say, so I didn't look it up. A lot of the ladies were like the mask, like, ceregoles. Yeah, there were a lot of know. The bales, the masquerade. Yeah. And this was supposedly like a commentary on the excess. And corruption. Paulson's up next.

But with Ziegler, she's doing, she's referencing a specific painting that I don't recall. The blindfolded maiden. Yeah, they're all kind of doing this, but like. Oh, Rachel Ziegler. Damn. It's like very art historic. Yeah. The white's not good.

The white is not good. The drape in the bodice is all wrong. You would think that white would work on a woman of her collection. Yeah. A stark white's just a tough. It's just really tough. But my favorite, like, Rachel Ziegler, like, styling item is the Coke Jaw. Oh, yeah.

The way she was, her, yeah. We all saw it. I saw a tweet that was like, she does the Coke Jaw, not because she's actually on Coke, but because she's a narcissist, and this is how she thinks that women should pose. No, she's definitely on Adderall. She's probably not on Coke because she's not like a party girl, but she's on, she's stimmed out. Yeah. And that's why she's so calm. No, no, no, no.

The white's all wrong. The dress sucks. The blindfolds. Why? Yeah, they're all referencing the exact same like three pieces of art. It's crazy. If a person with Down syndrome tried to do Elaine of a Lowe. No, there's just nothing.

It's neither like constructed or deconstructed enough. It's random. These little princessy off the shoulder, like, cap-lit sleeves. And then the top of the... Maybe if that was all gone and it was like almost a nipple, and it was just the, you know, maybe. But she'll never fucking do that. Dresses that I buy for like black tie gals from a brand called Salas London,

which does like very like architectural. Like sweet heart. Mm-hmm. bought us. That's me buying Brock collection on the real room. Sarah Paulson. We live in a society ass look.

Fecal matter is the... I hate shredded tool. We get it. We get it. And I'm pressed because they stole Brian Johnson for me. You don't need Brian Johnson. Brian Johnson's...

Funny, you would have been... No, no. It wasn't... It wouldn't be funny and cool. Clivocular. was funny and cool. It was way better. Okay, okay. Brian Johnson's not, he's not looks maxing. He's fighting against death. He's not in conversation with fashion. Fair, fair. He's not, you know, and neither is Sarah Paulson. Okay. No, what's up with the, um, ill-fitting white gloves that she and Katie Perry were rocking? Well, Katie Perry was doing a, her glove, glove deliberately

had six fingers. Uh-huh. I didn't even really include her because it's all, it made me feel so tired but um her gloves just fit like shit and the dollar is stupid it's so annoying it's also gay and stupid and everything about this look is wrong it's all wrong no yeah like the gloves the necklace the dollar bill yeah i think they were like trying to go for the the the labyrinth movie ballgown silhouette but it's just it's so annoying and like honestly the thing that frustrates me the most is like the fact that they're trying to sell us this like caviar communist narrative about like participating in the Met Gala but also getting to be working class heroes. It's just so insufferable.

Like condescending to the one person. A hundred percent. Yeah. Boohoo, you're slightly less rich. Yeah. You're worth 40 million. Right. 400 million.

Boohoo. Until it's the judge. Kate Moss. Sandoran. She looks incredible. She looks great. Yeah. Amazing face.

No comments. No notes. It looks like something I sold on my depop. Wait, what's going on with like the maroon? That's someone in behind her, I think. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, it is. Okay.

Oh, it's. That's not, she's just wearing the, it's the girl. Is that a Swiss dot? Doeachy. Oh, Dochi. Oh, yeah. I love a Swiss dot. And I love that she's serving body tea.

And that's all I have to say. I just love that she's like going back to the old days of the Matt Gala where you look like a normal co-core. You're there to have fun. She looks incredible. Yeah. Face lift, fantastic, money well spent. She looks so skinny too. I know.

Wait, how old is it? Right. That's what I want to know. 45, 50? No way. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, she's, yeah. 50 at least.

She's at least 50. At least 50, yeah. Look at it up. She's like back to her old shot. I do love the pictures of Kate Moss being like. 52. Remarkable. Looking like kind of like worn out and bloated.

Yeah. My depop, Abby is like Kate Moss in a green sequin mermaid dress like blasted on the beach. Next slide. Lila Moss. Her eyes. I really like the dress The dress is really pretty

I do too I mean she's a beautiful young lady With impossible shoes to fill No notes And like the constant comparison is just a setup But she's asking for it Is she? Because she's trying to be a model Yeah

And her whole career was She wouldn't be a model if her mom wasn't Kate Moss It's not unfair To invite the comparison And bringing it upon herself Yeah Sure She's beautiful

obviously, but she just doesn't... Let's not get ahead of herself. She's pretty. She's beautiful. If you saw her, you would be like, she's beautiful, but she doesn't have the distinct charm. The once-in-a-lifetime charisma. She's not chaos, and that's not her fault.

And I would do the same, you know, I'd use the, I'd play it as it lays as well. But... And I like her better than, like, Amelia Gray or whoever. Sure. Because she seems like more guarded and discreet. And the dress I really like. The dress is gorgeous, yeah. It's nice, yeah.

It's really pretty. It's like simple. Love the beating. Love the colors. It's not a stunt, which is nice. There's like a crazy, inherent, like Great Gatsby, again, like 30s, Depression era, art deco motif that keeps reappearing in all of these different references. I think that's a response more to the zeitgeist than the theme. Mm-hmm.

I think it's like a roaring 20s. Trinidad, you know. Europe access. Between war. But like we're in a depression. Yeah. It's like an aspirational roaring 20s. Yeah.

You know. But like, you know, they always say that like IQ is not hereditary or like genius isn't. Yeah. Right. Like most geniuses like do not have children who are. Right. Yeah. So me for real.

But like obviously like Lila Moss was not going to like match. How could she? Beauty and charisma, her mother. Nams the brakes. Alyssa. Louis Vuitton ambassador. Louis Vuitton. Her.

I'm so jealous. Really giving figure skater, which wouldn't be my move. I like this dress. I told you. You're crazy. You're crazy. No, I told you guys, it's giving an American girl doll holiday look. It's Samantha's.

Christmas. It's just invoking all of these nostalgic dollish sort of like... I don't hate it. It's like Jessica McClintock. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And she's happy to be there. It looks good in the three-quarter view. And you know what? I like it way more than the Eileen goo. That's coming up. That's coming up next. Who's the girl? Do you, who is the, the art? She was like an indie musical artist who opened for Morrissey back in the day. And there was a huge contract. She got into beef with Lady Gaga because she was the first one to wear the meat dress. I don't remember that. She was, like, kind of pressed and pissed that Lady Gaga, like, had such a iconic fashion moment with it. Her name was like Kristen something.

She was a pita head. Yeah, and she also wore a bubble dress. And I think Bjork also wore a bubble dress in addition to a swan dress. Mm-hmm. Hmm Seems like we really want to talk about the bubble dress I mean I'll just say I don't like it

And it's giving Kinseniera And I'm happy that she's happy to be there Yeah no it is It just like looks like 14 year old Mexican girl Sure Which considering like being under the boot of her Which is what she is She's father

You know it's like it'd be nice to set her free a little bit Yeah And like I know she got an ass back there You know I'm talking about the body undress. But I actually see what everybody was getting at during like the height of

the Alyssa Liu versus Eileen Gou controversy because she's just like her look is whack, whatever but she's just like so cute and natural. Yeah. She's a happy American girl and Elaine Gou is an evil Chinese

woman. Poor. Who this piss me on. so fucking much. The way she was so proud of herself. Because I saw it on the stream. And at first I was like, are those bubbles? You know, and then I was like, oh, and then I like the way she has to move in just stiff way because of the apparatus in the dress that's making the bubbles. I want to know what it is. What's up under there? Like little bubble machines who fucking some Chinese crap. And she's so proud of herself and it's like the theme's not bubbles you dumb

bitch and you're a traitor you're a traitorous Chinese I like the bubbles I like when the dress who were all jealous of because you're so pretty because you're so pretty

I like when the dress like transcends the physical experience of a dress turns into something more sensorial I like when you can smell it when you can feel it when you can pop it I like that. But the silhouette is so Tweed. Yeah.

I hate the hemline. Commit. Commit to what, like, okay, don't show off your. Yeah. She looks fatter than she is. She doesn't look fat, but she looks thicker than she is because the dress has whatever contraption inside of it. If it had been floor length and then the top could have been more, like, less bulky. And then the bubbles could emit in some other way.

Yeah. The shoes, they're so. Orchevita or Jeffrey Campbell Bloomingdale's brand Yeah she's going for like a nude She's just bubbles But it doesn't look like it's just It doesn't look like she's soapy out the tug

Yeah yeah It looks like she's wearing like a fucking evil Chinese contraption Crazy And I hate it But I'm not a no fan of hers I guess I got nothing I have nothing to say Yeah

It just looks bad and wow and like two middle class, I guess. It's just as a fan of the middle class, I wish there were more like variety in like the size of the bubbles too, because they're glass bubbles, right? Yeah. I like that you can see like Paloma El Cicero's. She's coming out. Oh, it looks so hot. She's coming up.

Fuck, I can't wait to talk about her. Okay. Lily Rose. Looking like Annabelle. Did her dirty. And like I said, she's locked into that Chanel Ambassador ship. But you know they gave her options.

She's got to be one of the best they got. Yeah. Didn't she wear it? What was the drug? Was it Chanel? With the chain. It was very like Liz Hurley. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Chanel belt. Yeah, that was my favorite. Chain belt. It was pink, wasn't it? It was like baby pink. It was black. Gold embellishment. Yes.

Yes. Yes. And it was so like sexy. Yep. It was awesome. She's so sexy. She's so sexy, but she is short. And, like, you can't put her in a drop waist and a kitten heel. Right. It's, she looks like she's four feet tall. And it's not her color. It washes her out. It's, like, maybe a pretty, it may, it's like maybe a pretty dress. I can't tell. Yeah. The Oregon. You guys are going to hate me for saying this, but I actually don't mind this look. Like, it is very frumpy and dumpy. But, To me, it's a more authentic version of what Hunter Schaefer was trying to get at.

That's crazy. She's like little girl. Yeah. It's kind of giving Balthus. Mm-mm. No. There's something weird and perverted about it. Yeah.

I mean, it's all her. It's not even the dress. It's not the outfit. I hate the shoes, like the double. dipped whatever, blue and black. No. It's like a false modesty that betrays something much more sexual and sinister. It looks good in like the candids of her. It's just like hard to like.

It looked better. It's a huge flop. But overall it was just definitely not my least weighted. Yeah. They're doing, they're up to no good. Yeah. Chanel has some weird moments. It's lately the lot, like for the longest time, honestly.

It's been a lot of, like, it's very, like, weighed down and, like, accessories in this very Chinese way. Honestly. It is very Chinese. Yeah. It's giving, like, Chinese mother of the bride. But, like, her, she looks so good otherwise. I mean, she's a beautiful girl.

I want a seed, like, I want, yeah, to, she's usually styled so, so well. And she has that, like, come hither. stare. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Gigi Hadid and Mu-Mu. I hate it. I hate it. No, I don't get it. I don't get it. The styling of the underwear, like the weird place. She claimed the underwear was intentional. I hate... They always... They'd be claiming the underwear's intentional, but they...

But like, I hate... How? Kind of, like, girls wearing, like, see-through dress. Like, Kendall Jenner did that for some Met Gala after party where she was wearing, like, Mugler, and it was, like, a silvery, like, gunmetal dress with like a black bra and black panties and it just looks bad. I think you should just bear it all and like, yeah. Or like Zoe Kravitz did the crystal thong. Or what Bianca does where she just wears tights. Yeah. And the theme closes it up. Why are you wearing like a boy briefs? Yeah. Their me or me are slinky gown. Weird choice. Weird color, weird cut. Not her best look. Detract from these strange like beaded motifs around the bus that don't come in anywhere else like okay maybe a little bit

in the train but no angle on the sparse there's there i saw some side shots where it was like there was the embroidery was more interesting but it wasn't it's none of it it's doesn't work for any the glam and the hair is so austere and mundane she didn't wear mascara yeah people are saying oh she looks 19 i actually think she looks 40 here i don't get the hair kate loved the hair she's a new she's a recent, she's a new mother. Well, I love that about her. She looks a little tired. She looks tired and like, uh, postpartum in the best way possible. Like, it is kind of like sexy erotic. Yeah. Because she looks a little use. I would have like leaned into that with the whole body motif. How old is her baby?

Mm-hmm. I'm not sure. I think young. My baby is still in three. I mean, that's not post-partum. She's not freshly postpartum. But she's not. She's, she did, yeah, she was, you know. Another great theme idea, postpartum depression. Interesting. That is, yeah, that is a good. Estrogen. I want to see, yeah, estrogen dominant.

I want to see gay black guys in her for that. We're all getting the Megan Kelly testosterone pellet in our ass. I've done that. Did you, you got the pellet? What? Wait, I've talked about this. I didn't know you got the pellet. In your ass?

Yeah, Jordan Wolfson. inspired me to get a rice kernel-sized shot into my ass. It was literally the most pain I felt in my life. Really? Why? It was uncomfortable. Yeah.

Well, because after I had the baby, my testosterone was so, like, low, and I'm usually high tea, and I was, like, depressed and depleted. But why was it so painful? Because they shoot the thing, and because I guess the ass is, like, a huge muscle. So even when you have, like, a little bee sting. kernel aperture thing. It hurts a lot. It was like sore and pink.

So absorption, I guess. Damn. Yeah. Did it work? Did it like help your scanner or your PMS? No. Did it make you more angry? Well, it made me more lucid, but it also made me more agro.

Yeah, yeah. That sounds about right. So I've, horny and mean. Yeah. I have done that. Polomashi. She looks incredible. Beautiful.

heard it was made out of like a hundred something some crazy number of dress they sourced all these old dresses and sewed them all together i think this is one of the few instances where the painting actually works and it doesn't feel topical or superficial i don't think it is painting really i can't read there's some this is tin she said it was like tin applique yeah very interesting like tin foil close up but then all this stuff like is made it's made like made out of other dresses. Good. I love the ear. Michaela Bosch did her glam. She's done a couple of our shows before. Like, she does really cool. It doesn't feel too much. It feels really additive and really referential.

And really, really, really, really pretty. The colors are very beautiful. She has the real face card that doesn't decline. She looks fantastic. And every time I see her, I'm reminded of like Angie Martinez. I don't know if that rings a bell. I guess she's porter.

Is she? Paloma? I think so. Yeah. I wonder. She looks Bouti-Bu. She's like Puerto Rican and Swiss or something. Yeah. She's from Gestat. Well, I've never heard of this designer before. Mm-mm. There was a name. It's like a fake and gay, made-up designer. I think it's like someone designed the dress and called it Bureau of Imagination. It was Paul Cooper. Yeah. Right. Sly. Great. The styling's, like, really fresh. The color is a great. Proportions amazing. Love the train. One of the prettiest dress is. Yes, she did it. And it's very cool and unusual because she's very warm toned. Yeah.

And the dress is cool toned. And you would think that it wouldn't work because she has like the little, like, coral peach. And the green has warmth, even though it's like, you know. The coloring of the dress does for me what Hunter Shaver's blush does. It's very botticelli. Mm-hmm. The necklace works in this case. Yep.

The earpiece thing. Very good. This is my Robert Wu section. Lelisa. Lita's from Black Pink. She's a huge star. She was on White Lotus as well. She's like the one that really like

jumped out. She really became like the K-pop girlie. And she's stunning, but this dress is whatever. The dress is not. Because it has like an arm holding up the two arms that are 3D-printed versions of her own arm. The weight and the proportion. of the arms is all wrong, which could have been counterbalanced by the way that she posed herself. But like the opacity of the dress doesn't match the opacity of the arms.

So it totally feels like an additional fixture on top of it. Like if she had posed differently throughout the night and the dress were stark white, it would have been really spectacular. Yeah. And the color actually isn't working for her. It's like clashing. Like the coolness. She's working against the dress.

She's doing her own posing. where she should have like really workshopped how she wanted to. She looks... Mulatto? She's really putting the black in black hair. The edges are crazy. Like the edges in her hair? Yeah.

It's not... I mean... There was a world in which this totally worked and it was one of the most spectacular looks on the carpet, but it just a couple tiny styling details just really didn't... I wonder what her real name is. Because, like, Lolisa is one of the more inspired. K-pop names because all the K-pop girls have very like, they're always like Jenny or Susie.

They rename them but a lot of like, she might be Thai, actually. And a lot of Thai people do have kind of jungle Asian. Not even they have like when I was in Thailand I met like a girl name like they their names were like kitty or like gun. Like their names were like were like gone. Like they did just kind of like maybe they're self-selected. or like they do just kind of like use kind of like good sounding Americanish phrases. Yeah. Or like ESL and duo lingo. What would have been really cool is if somebody did Goggan.

Ah, with the tits exposed. Purple nipples. Yeah. And so that's another Robert U. That's Naomi Osaka. Yeah. Very spiritually Chinese look. And we'll go back down.

Well, Robert Rue is Chinese, right? Yes. So then. These are the other, that one. Jordan Roth. Jordan Roth. What the fuck is Jordan Roth? He's a playwright on Broadway.

Oh. I think. And then the next slide also is... Robert One had a huge... Nietzschepot. We all know where we love her. Snapchat. Also, this is all, all these three slides are all Robert Wu.

He killed it. He was a big and he did a lot of 3D print. Yeah. You know what? The Jordan Roth look is fun. No, it's not. It's whimsical. It's horrible. Okay. What we did for a show, I can't remember if we ended up doing this on the runway or not. We might have scrapped it last minute. But for the mud show, we had people originally conceptualized to be crawling underneath the dress. But like real people. Yeah, real people. And like this look, I think, would have benefited from a third more animated anthropomorphic humanoid thing.

He should have a real guy on his dad. Under the dress. A real person. Yes. A slave. He should have a slave. He should have been Hellraiser pinhead. I would have styled this with another person.

Kind of like what Madonna did, but have that exact same like green screen covering. It is very gay sucks. It's completely, it's horrible. It's disgusting. Okay, yeah. From the back? Bug chasing. From the back?

It's not meant to be seen from the back. Well, like, okay. But it is being seen from it. But on a runway, like, okay, on a runway, okay. Yeah. And then you see it from the back and it's also kind of like moody, but like just walking around like that. That's disgusting.

Like a rape paralysis demon. Yeah. It's like ghostbusters, but like ass busters? like he's getting like ass buster it is like it's so it's misguided I like it in every way it's like what lips of ticlo gaiy yermo del toro ass the worst exorc of the progressive left I love the fabric yeah yeah I'm not I can't whatever who cares a third thing a third it needs a secret third thing yeah probably maybe It needs another guy.

They need a third. Yeah, it should be a threesome. Yeah. This, whatever, I just lumped it in with. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it sucks, obviously. Okay, Alexander Wang and Are you gonna shake? Vice.

Well, Alexander Wang also made the robot. And then he... He made the robot? The robot was Alex, I don't know. No. Yeah. Wait, what? The robot that, like, I didn't really see on the carpet, but...

Or was he the one who, like, benefited from the sponsorship of the company that put the robot on the robot? Exactly. The robot was also Alexander Wang. The beneficiary. The energy drink is called like reality or something. It's also kind of like a co-branded thing with the robot. And then Arena Shake is wearing his design. Hotakova did this whole moment 10 times better. This whole like deconstructed watch and object and item.

She's like a Swedish designer. We did the LVMH. She does the buckle bag as they saw. Yeah. She like works for like $3,000. Items and objects and collaging them under the form and

this just feels lazy in last minute and like and just too with the soda and the robot it's like why are you what are you really doing? So much is going to pay. Yeah.

I mean he needs the money and he's using the money to get onto the Met Gala in the first place. He's probably paying full price for those tickets. I'm very happy to see. If you pay. If you drink and energy drink

and get the robot out. Right. I'm happy to see Alexander. Me too. Me too. Nature is healing. It's crazy. I know.

And this is this whole look. He could have come out with a stronger look. Her look is very anicor. Yeah, that's true. No makeup, makeup, all black. Like stringy, oily hair. He looks sexy. Yeah.

He looks great. He's fighting. And the allegations are resolved, love, aren't they? I know, but people don't care. That's true. It's like it doesn't even matter. It's more fun to pretend they aren't. Irene Shake, too.

I love her because, like, sometimes I do a little bit of second order thinking and think, am I going to bear my midriff? Which looks blown out from giving birth to a child. False. She's really doing it. How many kids does she have? One with Bradley Cooper. Oh, my God, that's right.

A damn beard. It inspires me. You could do it any day. That woman being doing the sad belly button. Do it. Why not? She looks great. She looks great.

But the clothes or whatever. The low-wasted skirt. He was focusing too much on the. On the robot. He made it, Anna. He makes like Revolve or Forward where it's like, we're doing a guiseo and a low-rise skirt. That I'm buying off an Instagram ad than regretty. Then put it on my Deepop store.

Sarah Pigeon? She's an actress. She's from Love Story. She plays Carolyn Beset Kennedy. Oh, right. That's that bitch. I like this color. I like the color.

I like the drape. I like it. I like Louaweve. I don't really think it's doing her any favors. I think she shouldn't have done like a midriff look. She of all people has like a nice tight little midriff going. It's maybe low, maybe more midriff. I don't like just the upper midriff. Right. It's neither here nor there.

Like who cares? It's like, oh, I'm doing like a modern contemporary spin on Audrey Hepburn. Sort of. It's just, she's another actress who I think is just happy to be there and was wearing what they told her to wear. And it's not, she's not expressing anything. Lena Mufuf. A French in fruit. Hey, Joel, he's, sounds Turkish.

This dress makes me feel like a prude. Is it too revealing is a little in a real? We're feeling a pro-d weird. Well, it reminds me when I have, when did Janet Jackson. and do the Rolling Stone cover with... Like the early 90s? Yeah, like, I have a really traumatic memory of seeing that as a small child. Like, I was probably like, four, five, you know, six.

And I saw it and I was like, the thought of someone fondling your body like that, like, scared me. Yeah. And so it's... You were reminding me of that. I makes me feel uncomfortable. The Getty look was interesting because the hands that were groping the body were, like, they were, like, not so feminine, but they were, like, ambiguous. but this is very much like, man-hands.

It reminds me of when Julia Fox were that dress that had like the- The choker, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The demonic choker, like, there's something about seeing the female form being groped by, like, a creepy male hand that is interesting. I don't think it's that. It's just, like, bad and trashy. Yeah, the materiality is too disparate. The hands.

And you don't really need like the thong waist. Yeah. You're going to do the boob hand. It's a lot. But the hands remind me of like those creepy like bronze statues you see that look like real people. And you're kind of like, is that a guy sitting on the bench? Yeah. Why is he so still?

And then you like get closer and you're like, oh, it's like a weird fucked up statue. Okay. But more importantly, who the fuck is this woman? She's a French influencer. Maybe it would have been cool. she had gloves that match the sensation of the bra. That's also very horrible because French people shouldn't be influencers because their whole forte is being like a little distant and aloof and above it all.

But she's doing her job, you know. She's working. People are talking about it. People are talking about it. So she's doing her job. Right. So it looks like shit. The powdery eye shadow doesn't work for me either.

Extensively like matching the skirt. That's kind of whatever. It's very not French. It's very American. Absolutely. Yeah. A glove. A metallic glove. It's giving like Epps. Not read the room.

We're still reeling from the Epstein files. Oh, that's the. I don't know. That's the Katie Perry book I put in. That was bizarre too. Like what was she trying to invoke? I didn't even want to talk about it honestly. It all felt so like confused and fake.

I wanted to see Justin Trudeau. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know, right? South Asian or blackface race play. That would have been so tight if he wore his like high school photo, your book look with like the turban and the shavarkamis. There was a lot of people like art.

South Asian inspired fashions because I bet they all thought that Zoron and Rama would be up in there. He announced early on. No, I know, but they were like kind of playing off of like, But it's a vibe for sure. Yeah. What did you guys think about the like overwhelming criticism against Bezos? Bezos and Sanchez. I mean, just nonsensical.

Yeah. Like what do they think, where do you think money comes from? What do you think pays for like, I mean, the sackler? Like, what do you want? Who do you want to be financing the arts, if not people that are like pure evil? Like you just can't have it both ways. And these people aren't even pure evil. Yeah.

But you know what I mean. But like material, whatever, in terms of like the level of like suffering and exploitation in the world. Yeah. But they're like such dry hearts because they like want to be accepted by the general public. But the right. But the backlash is that it's like, you know. Yeah. But like let's not invite Beyonce. She uses sweatshops.

Like like do we really want to like pull at this? Like a thread of like who's evil, who's harming people, who's exploiting people, like, whose money's clean? Like, there is no MacGala. That's the thing. That's the thing. Which is like so actually harmful and destructive because when you like try to minimize harm, you actually end up maximizing it. And it's, I remember being a kid and reading New York Magazine because my mom had a subscription. And it was like literally Anna Wintor, the socialite called Anna.

Dwang, was like a Vietnamese French chick, and Jelaine Maxwell. And they were like in the fashion pages. They used to run like a like full page spread of like socialites. Well, that's why it feels so false. It's like this like elite spectacle that there is like this mass kind of like populist sentiment against. To just be like fashion is art. Yeah. Like brought to you by Amazon.

Right. And like the real problem with the Met Gell is. is that they democratized it too much because it should be like an elite walled garden. Yes. Let them have their hunger. That's my most fascist take, honestly, is that we should restore the credibility of the elites

and the tastemakers work. We shouldn't let, like, well, we're past that point now because, like, streaming is, like, the new celebrity, but we shouldn't be letting, like, YouTube and TikTok influencers, like, into the MacGella area. me, me, Anna, Anna, who's the final decision maker of everything.

Right. But it's just crazy to me. Like, I just feel like it's further proof of this, like, identity crisis that fashion is having, where they want to be like this pinnacle of fantasy and luxury, but they also want to be seen. And, like, just continuously drawing our attention back to the drudgery of how the sausage is made.

Like, where the money comes from, where the labor conditions lie, The utility of fame as a celebrity And celebrity is like a moneymaking vehicle There's no real incentive Right Like there's so many like there's Like let's really talk about what's like really problematic

Yeah If we're gonna go there or let's just not And let's have a nice ball Yes And I kind of like the second option Because the first one doesn't feel like Tenable or that interesting really It's like China is kind of like the Israel of fashion

They just exert way too much in poems. They do. Sure. It's just so frustrating. It's like one of those things where, yeah, again, it's just, you want to, like, discuss these sorts of issues. But, like, the thing about it is that that is what people derive gratification from. It's not, like, solving any of these things in any material way. It's really just, like.

nor the clothes, nor the artistry. It's just the discourse. Yeah, exactly. And, like, neither are we, like, solving the problems, nor are we, we're just slapping a dollar bill on Sarah Paulson's face. And, like, someone's feeling satisfied, but, like, it's who? Yeah. I feel like people are really trying to gauge, like, the public interest in, like, champagne socialism

and, like, caviar communism. It's like, is it working? Is it believable? Can we get away with, like, having these sorts of, like, displays of ostentatious, like. The sad thing is that, like, when you have, they're not even ostentatious. Yeah. They're just, like, ghetto and broke. Wait, okay. Who is Luke Evans? I don't know. The guy that wore the leather daddy outfit. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, who, um, he was one of my favorite looks for the night because he did, like, Tom of Finland reference. Yeah. And, like, I hated everything. think about the look obviously is like trashy tacky look bad but he really like Gucci no I don't know who dressed him actually but it was giving like the last Gucci no clue that's kind of why I didn't include him because I didn't um though it was a good luck yeah like he he was the one person who like understood the assignment yeah did you see all the bottles of piss people were leaving around the met i saw the new york post thing yeah i wonder if it was real or if it was just like a sciop of

two or three things that people took their own pictures of. That, like, they self-documented. It's so hard to tell. That's why, like, AI really is kind of the theme. Yeah, no, it's true. That's exactly what I would have done. It's, like, if I had been invited to, like, show something at the MacGala, I would have done something that rift on AI and, like, the unbelievably of what you see on the

MetGala runway. Because this is crazy the best. Maybe next year will be there. We'll be there. We'll be up in there. I think I've got a chance. I think I fuck yeah. But like the looks, my favorite looks, they were all fake.

And it took so much research to figure out what was real and what was just like. I know. I know. I know. I was texting you girls being like, is this real? Yeah. You can tell. Something's fake. No, there was some really good ones.

Or if they were like old seasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't be keeping up with the MET looks like that. No, it's course. It's not. I know. We can all like mid-jurney our way. on to the Met Gala.

Carpet. Could be nice. Yeah. It could be satisfying enough. I want to know about like the mechanics of actually going to the Matt Gala because you like walk the red carpet. And you have dinner and then they all claim in there like you take the bathroom selfie. In the feed banter they all claim to be like and I'll see you in there. We'll dance the night away.

They're all like we're all going to dance all night. But like I don't know if that's really going on. No. No, they're in and out. They're like out by 9 p.m. And then there's an after party. Yeah, there's like 12. Yeah, that's when the night really starts.

Because, like, the Met Gala is short. It's, like, from five until, like, nine. And there's acts, essentially. There's one or two. Like, I think Ariana Grande performed at this one. Okay. Our year, there was Lizzo. Uh-huh.

But, like, yeah, no cameras are allowed. It's supposed to be very, like, private and intimate. Uh-huh. The dinner is, like, two hours. And then I think the real money-making, vehicle is the after parties and all of the appearances and DJs sets and different looks that they have to wear. And I think they stop at like four or five different after party venues. So it's bizarre. It's like such a weird.

Shorter than the new criterion gal. Yeah. But these things are so short and so like commercially oriented. And it's like all of the media is meant to feel so organic and fresh and fun and like happenstance and it's crazy. But when you think about what it really is, it's like you wake up at 8 in the morning and they get you into heroin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're in there for four hours and they farm you out to the gala and the Uber. You take a beta blocker. A standing over. Because you don't want to get too scared. Yeah. And then you just, yeah, like. But unless you're part of like 10 to 12 celebrity media placements, like walking the carpet is really awkward because nobody documents you, nobody photographs you. And like I saw so many awkward clips of girls who were like invited to the Metcala, but nobody took their picture.

It's just so sweet and awkward. And yeah, it's one of those things. But I love the MacGala. I think it's an important initiative. I think beauty is a civic duty. I love to see expression. I mean, that's what did people forget. That's what it's for.

Yeah. It's for the Met. It's for art. It's for the patronage of the arts. And in that way, it's obviously really important. but it's also important in that it like tells us something like I do think that like the dust bowl flapper depression era kind of references are telling yeah and in general like what you can kind of like take the temperature in a way like the Super Bowl halftime show right but almost more reliably because there's more like diversity of voices and bodies but yeah it like tells you something about where things are at. It's also cyclical and self-referential. Not like or even if it's not like organic, it's still, it's information. Right. That's good to have. And it's fun and it's fun. Like,

it's a great day on the feed because I'm like the gay, like, I love when like homosexuals get to speak their minds. I really do. I'm like, I love that like, do you. Yeah. They've been speaking their minds for a while. But like when they have a special, you know, when they're like thriving in what When they're in their lane and they're not forced to opine about, like, politics. Yeah, it's great when they, like, can actually talk about culture. Yeah. Through culture. Yeah.

And it's just, yeah, it's a fun, it's a fun event. Yeah, I guess it does remind me of how much I love homosexuals. So true. Mm-hmm. So true. Which the White House correspondent dinner had none of. Not a single? I mean, that's the problem.

Yeah, it's a problem. Homosexuals in attendance, but they were at the Grindr Gala. That's crazy. I said this about the Melania doc. It's like she clearly just has a very low status homos around her and everyone would benefit if there could be more of like a symbiotic relationship between like genuine. Creative theatrical talent and like subversive impulse and homosexuals. but something got fragmented somewhere. Yeah.

Anyway. It just felt overwhelmingly austere and forgettable. Yeah. With like one or two exceptions. Even so, yeah. I mean, it's like it's just going to take so much now, too. Well, because, yeah. I feel like back in the day, as Ella Debbie inadvertently points out, it was just like less.

She's so smart. Come on, God, girl. Yeah, that would be fun. I don't want to talk to L. I'm sorry. Less documented. Well, she can't talk without looking sideways and reading up a piece of paper. I wonder who among us has the hairiest toes.

Ooh, same. Me. Hondo P. Me. I have laser. Me too. So I want to y'all. Well, what's next?

What's the next, like, fashion moment? What is the next? September. Yeah. You've got a while. It feels far off. Yeah. What are you working?

What are you? What are you thinking? What's going on? It's crazy. Are you okay? Am I okay? That's such a good question. I'm good.

People on the internet seem to really like me. There's no misunderstanding about my creative mission. No, it's good. It's hard to survive. Like all the best artists have that experience, so that's good. Super legible online. I mean, but Elena, online aside, you are like a real life. fashion designer

which varies you do people are I think what does that even mean anymore if I could choose to love any other thing I 100% would that's not true I would be miserable I would yeah you literally could do something else

and you choose not to every day every single day you wake up and you choose fashion I choose violence oh there it's over there but we're working on our show towards for September

yeah it's it's hard because like you have to create an entirely parallel economy of sponsors and patrons and collaborators if you want to make it through the 2020s with your creative integrity intact. It's like you can't rely on industry mechanics for anything. And like nothing's selling anymore. Like it's not just a me problem. It's an industry wide issue. Like you know, it's like nobody's buying clothes. Nobody's selling clothes. So what is the purpose of your venture in this moment specifically? Like in a more

prosperous era and I feel this way about Hollywood too maybe this is cope but I feel like you could be problematic and still solvent like because they're just what like there wasn't so much scarcity like people everybody was more solvent even non-problematic people well that's what I mean is like so there was space for problematic people to be solvent because everyone everyone was up and now that everyone hands down it's like cut throw yeah and you have to like fight for these like scraps and like is it worth your dignity. And you being problematic is really incidental. You know what? It's so crazy is I don't believe that I'm problematic at all. You're not. I'm continuously shocked that people are shocked. Like I was like, oh, clavicular, everyone's going to love it. Like, they're going to get in the sea.

It's ridiculous. Yeah. That you got heat for clavicular when literally every single person is talking about him. Every. in indirect ways. I know. I said this to Megan because it's like people get mad about media personalities, platforming Nick Fuentes, but it's like all the mainstream establishment liberal publications love to talk about him. Oh, they love the plausible deniability.

They love the arms length access as long as somebody else is taking the fall for it. But like, LeVicler is not even problematic. He's not. He's not. thing. Yeah, and like, that's the entire purpose of... Right. But he can't walk in a fashion show. I know, I know.

Which is like more, seems more aligned with like, what he's not doing. Yeah. He will be soon. Well, like, female artists have so much less, like... I think there's something, too. Like, like, actually engaging with him as, like, an art object as a model. Absolutely. Yeah. is makes so much more sense than like talking to him about his views if we're like you know that's just what feels so urgent to me about like the possible the conceptual possibility of fashion is like capturing all of these different like cultural artifacts and digesting them in real time like with your audience and not sanitizing or like offering people these like tidy moral conclusions about the people that you cast in your shows or like the thematic references you include.

in your work. Showing them, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's righteous. You're on the right path. I'm playing a long game. I'm playing a long game. And perhaps people don't understand the way.

You're smart. You're smart to do that. You are. Thank you. We'll see. We'll see how it nets out. And it's, it is, it's just everything.

Everyone's broke. Yeah. That's really the problem. Yeah. In all of these different ways, like, financially, spiritually, yeah,

inspirationally, bro. What is there to talk about that isn't like the lived moment that we're all experiencing? And I don't know, I just feel like fashion is really absconding from that responsibility in any meaningful way.

Completely. I mean, even, and I mentioned this on Megan. Also, but I was like, with like Joan Rivers passing. Yeah. There's really, like, you saw the banter on the Vogue live stream. It's like, what are you?

So, what do you? you say to yourself to your confitant? Like it's like, what? Like, no one's taking any of these people to fucking tat, like, yeah. But yet they want to put the dollar bill on the face. Right, right, right. They're doing social critique, but no one actually is like saying anything. Everyone's

saying the same like platitude, banal bullshit. Yeah. About like how fashion is art. Yeah. Like, okay, what? What else? What else? What else? What else is it? Yeah. Yeah. Fashion is clearly like It's own thing but also a subset of art

It's creative in nature It is art But like People should ponder Normal art It's fallen on hard times Is music actually art Is it a type of art

Like that's like lost or sure So what kind of theme would you like to see for the next Michael. I just want to see more concrete themes like painting numbers. Yeah. Like a specific Camp was great. Camp like a specific thing. Carl Lagerfeld great. Whatever. Tom of Finland, Vienna Secession. Like impressionism. Like any like even Gilded Age. Let's do it. Roll out the flapper dresses and like see what else someone comes up with. Like give someone like a hard. Give someone like a hard boundary and then like that's where creativity happens is when people have like restriction. Constrained. Yeah. Agree. Totally. So like yeah, fashion is art is not not interesting. Yeah.

And it's reflected kind of in the looks. Yeah. Ariana Grande performed. Did you see that? No. She was carried in on a group of beautiful scantly clad men. sang a song about Godson Pena Disney song From Wicked From Sleeping Beauty Oh

So And yet Didn't see a single Picture of her Or her looks Yeah right Weird right I saw some people

Well maybe the after party Is also kind of police Because I only see people Like getting out of cars Right Yeah But I saw a photo of

Gabriette Oring of vintage Versalchi dress Did she attend or she just went to like... She just went to the after party. Olivia Rodriguez. And I was confused with that. I was wearing like Vivian Westwood, like the knit.

It looks really cute. I loaned to Alex Kansani and Anokia. I haven't bothered to like dig through images. So I have no idea if it worked out or not. But we'll see. My phone's not blowing up. So we've only had another office. But it's fun.

It's fun to participate. Well, thanks for coming. Thank you. This was great. What a fun night. I love you. Love you too. See you. You breathe soon.