Red Scare - Sloppy Rooftoppy

Episode Date: July 5, 2026

The ladies discuss Taylor Swift's lavender wedding, the Russian rooftopping couple's Empire State Building stunt, Zohran's 4th of July speech and the SSPX excommunications

Hello there. Hi. Happy 4th of July. Happy America's 250th birthday, Dasha, wow. 250. Mm-hmm. Chin-chin. Do you have plans?

Nope. Are you hitting any BBQs today? I might. I don't know. I don't really feel like doing anything. It's hot as fuck there, right? I have to, like, fly to Spain tomorrow, so. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. See you at the treatment center. Yeah. I am a toxic, too. I know. I'm actually losing weight because I keep getting food-borne illnesses. Yeah. Do you think that you have norovirus or heat stroke?

I don't think the heat's helping, but I do think it's a food issue. Yeah. But some other people have gotten sick and they think everyone has, like, different theories. Okay. But I'm not like, I'm vomiting. more than the alternative. But I'm kind of better. I think I'm in the clear.

Yeah. Well, you look great, so hey. Thanks. You know, I'm taking the short-term gains of being tan, but I'm obliterating my collagen. And I'm going to come back. You're getting the vitamin D, yeah. Yeah.

But I don't, I'm going to age rapidly. once you're back. From all the sun exposure. Eventually, I guess. Like, how true is that, though? I guess people need, like, 10 minutes of sun a day. I don't know. The jury's out, whatever.

I feel, they say, like, you shouldn't be, like, my face is burnt. Yeah, I know. It looks like, um, you did, like, a TikTok tutorial, like, putting, like, a bowl on stick on. Oh, yeah, I did like sunburn girl. So you are coming. to Spain. I guess so. Yeah. It's, maybe you'll like it. I mean, I've been to Spain before. I have like a very faint recollection of it. Yeah, I don't know. We shall see. I think it'll be fine. I'm like a happy traveler, as I said. There's really one place that I'm really hated.

What? Austin, Texas. It's my least favorite place in the world. But other than that, like, whatever. That fucking sucked. Yeah. No, everything else has like novelty. Yeah. I've just like been at this point in Spain longer than I've ever been anywhere that I haven't lived. Yeah. Which wouldn't have been my choice, to be honest. I'm making the best of it.

Yeah, yeah. So you don't have any plans. I'm at a pool party right now, actually. Okay, so you have to get back out there, yeah. Woo. I got it. We got a, yeah, we don't have much time. Yeah. I got a man the grill.

Mm-hmm. Do they have, did they actually have food up in there? We made hot dogs and burgers. Oh, fun, yeah. And that was really, I like almost cried honestly eating a hot dog because I hate Spanish food so much. I know. And I love hot dogs and hamburger because I'm a patriot. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Do you feel any type of way about it? being America's birthday. No, I feel remote and alienated. If I was there, maybe I'd feel... I mean, $2.50 seems good. That seems solid. That's like Lindy territory. Yeah.

Well, you know, did you see those like New York Post stories, Daily Mail Stories, whatever, of the parasite that's been going around that gives people explosive diarrhea? So I was right. Yeah. Because yet again, I'm like deep. in the AIDS research and apparently what prompted this my term I don't know why are you for sorry it's like breaking up oh okay so I didn't hear what you said oh no I didn't say no I didn't say anything

no I was just reading I'm like rereading the Randy Schultz book and in it he speculates so I don't know how accurate this is though this is one theory that like AIDS came to US shores and on the bicentennial on the 200th birthday of America in 1976, which would explain why all the cases hit in the early 80s. So I was putting my nostradamus cap on and thinking, like, well, we're like about due for another super bug. That's interesting. Yeah, too.

So it's the 50th anniversary of AIDS also. Yes, exactly. Of the first AIDS super spreader event. Yeah, so if we can just get off with like a mild explosive diarrhea parasite, that's probably good. I mean, it's a little anticlimactic. Yeah. Anyway. Well, you saw Davy chase that actress.

Oh, yeah. Yes, Chase. She died. No one of determinism strikes again. Yeah. Yes, she did. Wait, are you breaking up again? Well, she wasn't bug chasing.

She was a drug addict. Oh shit. What? I'm going to leave and come back because it kind of worked last time. I'll be right back. Mm-hmm. Wait, I can see you. Is that any better?

Yeah, yeah, I can see you and hear you, yeah. You're sounding kind of bad. Can you hear me now? Weird. I can hear you, but it's... Are you using just the mic in the headroom? Yeah, yeah, it's all I have. That's it.

That's the podcast. Oh. God. It's the best we can. Can you not hear me at all? That's it. That's the show. We fucking tried.

I can hear you. It's just laggy. So it's hard to talk about the AIDS. Yeah. Well, I'm done. I've done my spiel. We can move on to the docket. Maybe if I do.

Okay. Maybe. Do you think if I close some of my other programs, it'll work better? What? Maybe if I close some other apps? Oh yeah, true. I guess I could close some tabs. I don't really need all these tabs.

Though I don't know if that even does anything. I mean, it's kind of a me problem. Because I'm in a third world country. What's, yeah. Okay. I think it's working. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Yeah, that's fine.

It is what it is. I did say. some like picture in setting. So now the tab's switched and you were on the left and now you're on the right. But whatever, I can cope. I think it's because I left and came back. But that's going to keep people guessing. Yeah.

So they don't get too comfortable. But yeah, super sad about, I don't know how to say her name actually. Davy? Davy. Davy. Davy? Davey Davy

Davey Chase I actually was like wondering about I think about her sometimes because I am such a big fan of the ring

and Donny Darko and Lilo and Stitch of course And she did have such a The best movie ever made Yeah And that's what she's kind of known for It makes her death seem more bleak

Yeah And apparently she had millions of residuals Yeah Sitting in a bank account somewhere And she left it all She walked away from it all to be an addict on Skid Row with her boyfriend. Yeah, based, I wish. It's not dishonorable, honestly, in this day and age.

So true, yeah. There's sadder faiths, unfortunately. That is true, yeah, like Penning-Tell essays, as I said. But anyway, we can get to the docket. What are we talking? Okay. Okay. Taylor Swift got married at MSG.

Oh, yeah. Weird choice, but okay. I mean, I guess it's on brand for her and Travis Kelsey. It's like a mega blockbuster event. Well, they did a whole like light, lavender hayes, which I guess is the Taylor Swift song. Yeah. It was like a lavender relationship. But I'm like, so it's just a lavender wedding.

Like you're just admitting it. Yes. Yeah. I guess lavender is big in Spain, right? She finally got her beard. Mm-hmm. Not my fave. I don't really love lavender.

Are you? I like it. I like lavender. But it's like she, they both seem gay. They do. He definitely seems like a bulky dyke. Yeah. And he's a tight end.

I just learned that today that his position on the team is tight-up. I don't know what that means, but it means he's a gay. What's his position? The tight end? Tight end. He's a tight end. He does have a tight end. I'm sure he is.

Yeah, I guess he finally tied the knot after three years of dating. And there was no, yeah, there was no bridesmaids or groomsmen. And her brother was the man of honor. and his brother was the best man and Adam Sandler officiated. This is just what I read in the NPR article. I've done with his daughters, put him up to that. I'm not like a big Taylor Swift fan. Though, you know what's so random.

I've been listening to that song, Blank Space a lot lately in the weeks leading up to their wedding. She has some head. She has a lot of bangers. Yeah. I mean, I think she's a beautiful girl with a beautiful voice. She's just, like, weird and asexual. and like a little too cerebral. She's like the Erica Kirk of pop.

I think she's like a... Well, Vicky thinks she's a witch and I kind of agree, honestly. I could see that for her, yeah. And I think if as a man, if your girlfriend or wife is a Swifty, you'll never... She'll do whatever Taylor Swift says before she listens to you.

That's true. She's going to be like, you can't have any. She's going to be constantly testing her authority and disagreeing with you. You can't have masculine authority, yeah, if you're in a relationship with a Swifty. And I guess, yeah, a bunch of Swifties showed up ahead of time because they were sleuthing around and they noted that some events company took out a permit for MSG. a thousand person event so they put two and two together. I can't imagine like being a diehard Taylor Swift fan and like following her around the East Coast in a heat wave.

And it's like there was like a mother daughter duo that they interviewed. And they're just like camped outside of the premises. Yeah. They were like wearing veils. Yeah. It's just I she knows like it would have been obviously she would never do this. But like the classy thing to do would be to have like a discreet cool wedding. But she's like incapable of ever doing the cool thing. She always has to do like the worst, most cynical.

Gay nerd bullshit. Like greedy, evil thing. Yeah, yeah. But what's the play here? Just to have like a total black box wedding that you then release like images and videos from for tabloids. Is that the idea? Yeah. I mean, I guess I don't find that.

Ego. Too cynical because it's like very in line with her. brand and persona. Well, her brand and persona is like exploiting the parisocial bond people feel with her. Yeah, I guess

Hassan Piker accuses her of tastelessly and classlessly exploiting the taxpayer who's like footing the bill for security. Are we? Yeah, apparently because there was like, there was street closures

and crowd control involved. allegedly. But I think she's, yeah, like, more obviously, like, just exploiting her fan base, which is, like, I don't even, I wouldn't even call it exploiting because, like, they're your fans. And so you, like, tug at their little strings and stuff. And if they come to New York, they're both, like, you know, it's like saying, like, a sports team is exploiting taxpayers by winning a basketball game because of, like, the unrest and celebrations that follow. it's not. Yeah. But he's been really, yeah.

Hassan. Hassan's worse than ever. Hassan seems like a guy Taylor Swift would marry, frankly. I know. Like I could see them being a power couple, yeah. Interclass. A Ledbun class. Yeah, yeah.

But the idea, I mean, I guess we do this in our role as podcasters where we like recap and summarize, like, various things that have happened in the discourse, but, like, the gall, the audacity of him to, like, chimp out about how Taylor is, like, an exploitative capitalist. That's crazy. He streams all day. That's true. All he does. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. They wore Jonathan Anderson for Dior Ote Couture. Sounds awful. I'm sure they both look like shit. I saw this picture of, well, hold on.

I'll show you a picture that really, that he looks really gay in. And I'll hold it up to the screen. So people can get. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he looks like. some like alpine faggot. It's like German folk.

Not the look at the Gucci Golodosin. Yeah. He looks like a guy. They're not even paying him to. Yeah. Well, he looks like a guy who was like parting at the pine.

He wants to wear that. Yeah, I know. I know. That's why I mentioned Hassan Piker because I like kind of have the same taste level. Yeah. No true. And low IQ squint. Yeah. like all young guys now love to do the low-a-q squint handlebar mustache thing and wear like a knit polo with shorts.

Like they dress like, they dress like gay guys before the AIDS crisis hit. This is like... That's another red flag. Yeah. It's things are lining up in the timeline and sartorially. Yes. We're prime. Yeah.

For a Neo-A. We are, yeah. Oh, I've been betting on. call she. Oh yeah, you won $60? Because I got I won, I've won, I actually won more than that, but tonight I'm betting on, I guess Trump's going to make a speech at Mount Rushmore. Oh, wow. Oh yeah, I haven't heard from him lately. And so people are betting on like

what he'll say, what phrases he'll say. Okay. That's fun. And I made, I guess by the time it's not going to matter. But I wish Donald Trump, if you can hear me, say founding father. Uh-huh. He's going to say founding fathers, I'm sure. I think he will. The probability is apparently very low. I stand to win big if he says it.

Because it's not really in his lexicon. I understand why people think he won't, but I think with Mount Rushmore, Fourth of July, I think it could happen. Mm-hmm. And that would be nice dopamine hit for me. And you know I need it. They should recarve Mount Rushmore and it should be Hassan Piker, Travis Kelsey, Bad Bunny and Jacob Allorty.

There we go. Perfect. The four horsemen of the gay apocalypse. We can do it to celebrate the 50th anniversary of AIDS. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, any other remarks? I don't really have anything riveting to say that Taylor Swift's wedding. No, God, I don't care.

No. I mean, the real, you know who really kind of, this is a good segue, here we go. Taylor Swift's wedding overshadowed a little bit by that Russian couple that climbed the Empire State Building. Yeah. Oh, true. And they've become kind of the real folk heroes. Yes. That's what's in the news.

We're just trying to get through the news. The couple, yeah. Angelina Nikolao and Ivan Kuznyetsov, aka Birkus. Do you know anything about these people? Did you see the video? No, I guess there's a documentary about their, like, renowned climbers of landmarks. Yeah, they're just, they're doing, like, parkour. Russians love that shit.

Not exactly that, but basically. Yeah, it's like erotic Quark war They're like Circus freaks and carnies It's like in their blood They love like Whimsical Burlesque to Solay

Yeah It feels very familiar And like eroticism Yeah But also So I'm like yeah Like I'm endeared to it But repulsed by it

Yeah I think that's The contrarian in me When people When people are responding to effusively to it. I'm like, can't you see? They're just low IQ criminals. Fuck them.

Yeah, yeah. This is a cynical there for attention. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to argue. But then when I saw the video. Yeah. What were you saying? When I saw the video of her yelling at him about, she was like,

it's just not ideal near cartoon. He was like, they're like bickering up there about like getting the perfect shot. Yeah. She's like, what's like, what's like, that's doing my heart. Yeah, he's doing the classic guy thing where he's like, what? This is a totally nice picture. Shut up, bitch.

And she's like, that's not the shock. And she's like, why are we doing this if it's not going to be perfect? Yeah. Why did we go all this way? Yeah. I guess they scaled the Empire State Building and then unfroled a banner with the Jimmy Hens. quote and then he proposed to her. Is that what happened?

I didn't watch. Oh, that's what that is? Yeah. And I guess the quote is when the power of love beats the love of power, the world knows peace. And everybody's like losing their mind over how romantic and daring this is. When the love of power beats in Soviet Russia, love falls in power. Power beats you. They're up there listening to.

dub stuff. Yeah. Detsal. They're like charged with multiple colonies also. I guess probably like breaking and entering, trespassing. I don't know what. Yeah. Yeah. But there, did you see the air traffic

controller clip? No. It's like the audio of them being like two, oh, two genius, these like New Yorkie air traffic guys being like, oh, two geniuses climbed the rifle tower. Oh, and they've got some kind of sign and, oh, he just proposed to her. So yeah, he proposed to her up there.

Well, and then they interviewed her dad who was like, well, they've been married for years. This was just a stunt. Oh, they have? Apparently, yeah. So they're just, obviously they're probably self-producing some documentary about their hijinks. And like every, like I saw people being like, you know, if you have a cynical take on this, like you're clearly resentful of hot people and you're resentful of people in love and you're like anti-white and all this stuff and blah blah blah but i literally didn't see a single person being mad about it i think most people agreed it was heartwarming and they are both pretty sexy and have those like uh green nat geo eyes they yeah which they both they look like siblings yeah she had a glow up yeah yeah um i i really didn't see anyone having

like a negative opinion. So I'm going to be the one to do it. I'll have the negative opinion. I'll be the hater and the cynic. Which is like not even that bad. It's like yeah, they're clearly like promoting their joint brand like Tate and Travis. Like obviously there's some of that going on. But who's to say? You think scaling the empire state building is romantic? Have you ever driven to a remote part of French Canada to visit the great. of AIDS patient zero, gay Tondougasse together. I mean, it is like, well, to me it's like they clearly are like probably sub 100 IQ, but just barely. Together, together, they break 100.

Together they break 100, but they like just aren't scared of height. It's not like, it's impressive. They are doing the feeds. But like if you're not scared of heights. Are you scared of heights? Then it's not... I'm not trying to climb up anywhere, no. I don't like...

I went to, like, a creek. Yeah. I don't like, you know, it's... I'm not like... Not my favorite, yeah. Phobic? But I was, like, down in a creek the other day. In the countryside where I live now.

And I was like... I didn't have, like, water shoes, you know, so I was barefoot. And there was, like... I was like... I was, like... I was, like... I was like trudging through and I was like, you know what, it's just a matter of time before I fall. So I'm just going to stop.

Well, that's like there's nothing for me. Yeah, I guess that's like the implied risk that one or both of them might like trip and fall and die. Which makes it romantic. It's like it's like raw dogging, right? There's a risk that's been taken out of love. And they're, yeah, they're raising the stakes. It's probably, yeah, it probably is like. But is it if you, if you retribing.

truly like don't have the part of your brain that makes you scared of heights, then is it even like exhilarating? Yeah, I guess it becomes like a cognitive awareness that. Yeah. Well, I don't know. You never know. What's the documentary called? I don't remember. Skywalkers.

Yeah. It's called Skyfuckers. It's a good. It's a Netflix documentary that people probably are going to tune in. I mean, them being like young and attractive has on Wikipedia, it says her, it says her occupation is rooftoper. What's his? Oh, she's an rhythmic gymnast like my mom. Oh, wow.

Did your parents have a take on this? I haven't talked to them actually. They probably think it's cool. Uh-huh. Honestly. He's also a rooftoper, obviously. but I don't think he has like a gymnastics background the way that she does. Yeah.

And he makes NFT. Oh, she makes NFTs. Using photographs. It doesn't say they're married on Wikipedia. Her dad. They live in East Orange, New Jersey, Anna. Wow. Jersey strong.

Yeah, her dad, Dimitri Nicolao claims that they are married. I don't know why he would talk to the press. But why would he be shady like that and mess up women? mess with her bag. But Russian people love being married. They get married really young and they just are all married and some of them are separated. But the Russian people are always married.

Maybe he doesn't. Maybe her dad doesn't like him because he's encouraging his daughter to do these perilous risks. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. There's something like that bad to say about this cute young couple that's like trying to raise their profile. I guess, yeah, it was like relatable and humanizing.

she was like yelling at him about taking bad pictures on like a dangerous part of the building. Yeah. Yeah, and he's like, you're like, you're like, you're like, that's what, duchabne balna.

He, yeah, like, I guess it is kind of cool that they wrenched. Honestly, even if they are married. Yeah. Even if they're married, getting proposed to again is still cool.

Yeah, they're like renewing their vows over. I'm like, Yeah, yeah, it's cute. Fine. It's cool that they're like wrenching the joy of pride from the gay community. But with this like forcefully heterosexual act, I guess Magdalena's Taylor is right, that heterosexuality is back. It's July.

Gays to the back. Time for us to shine. It would be funny if two gay guys scaled the Empire State Building and. had bearbacks and gave each other AIDS up there. That would be cool. I've been putting sun in in my hair. What does that do? It gives you more highlights.

It's like lightens your hair, but my hair looks pretty. You can't really tell, but it looks pretty orange. It's like lemon juice and bleach and stuff. but it's okay i'm going to sort it all out when i get out of here what else do it did i jot down about this couple blah blah i wrote low iq criminals i have a feeling this episode's gonna be kind of kind of bad but the video does a lot yeah poorly received

it does yeah I wish it was colder in here So I don't have hard nipples But sadly no Yeah You could just say anything If there's video I'm gonna

I'm gonna get another cruise camp I'll be right back Yeah What's that? It's a Spanish beer I can hear like people talking I know Hi

Hi all Okay I'm back I mean, if I was in Reno, why would I be drinking all these beers? I mean, I assume that was a Coke Zero, but Spain apparently is the capital of non-alcoholic beers. They drink more at non-alcoholic beer per capita than any other nation. Really? Didn't see that coming. It's also the baldest country.

And they're balder than any other nation. Yeah, they're bald as fuck. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Checks out. Yeah, I think I said this. Surveying the situation. Yeah.

No, it's true. there. I've never seen more bald men than in Spain, and they all kind of look the same, like, little men. But yeah, I think I said this on the last one. There's like two types of Spanish guy. There's like the Spanish guy with like the lion's mane of like thick straw like blondeish hair. And then there's like the bald asshole in a polo. I sure are. Yeah. Honestly, if any listeners live in Hornachuelos, Hornutuelos. I'm not that far. Horny trailers.

Hit me up, honestly. Yeah, and if any listeners want to give me like Spain racks, I'll take those too. Yeah. I mean, I have some Spain wrecks, but I don't know where you're going. I think mostly like the south of Spain. We're going to hit the Muzzi cities. There's a mosque in Cordoba. Yeah, yeah.

It's the Moorish towns are quite cool. actually. Yeah, they seem like it. I've never been to that part of Spain, so I'm relatively excited. It's hard to like draw up enthusiasm. It's nice probably to bop around and not be so trapped. Yeah, I think I'm going to do that. I guess there was that Lindyman tweet about how you shouldn't promote. Sorry what you're saying. No, go ahead. No, like you shouldn't promote expressions of love because true love is extremely rare and you're getting people's hopes up but I I actually like don't agree with that because like those rare displays are what give people hope and enthuse them I think everybody understands like love is rare no one's like laboring under the delus I mean

everybody yeah holds out the delusion that it might happen to them and it does once or twice in your life but like sometimes I can see both sides I do think Lindy man's on to something glad he unblocked me, I guess, maybe. But I think we should celebrate, like, being with someone even if you don't love them also. Yeah, I guess duty. And we put too much emphasis on, you know. Yeah. Well, yeah, this very, like, feminine narcissistic conception of love where you're, like, a pretty princess who's, like, coddled and pampered and everything goes your way.

And it's, like, realistically, it's not, like, even if you have, like, a happy, loving long-lasting relationship one of you is going to get sick and die before the other one so you have that to look forward to i've seen that a lot with the root i've seen that a lot in regards to like the roof toppers the russian rooftoppers um that like oh he just raised the bar like ladies if your man isn't going to like scale a building to propose to you and it's like well it's like well you have to scale a building to propose to you and it's like well it's like well you have to scale building with him. Yeah, they're special.

It would be funny if this incident unleashed a spate of like copycats and a bunch of people died because they didn't have the gymnastic training. I mean, looking at the Wikipedia, it does seem like there are primarily Russian people doing this. Yeah, they love daring feats of like urban mountaineering because they understand. understand that like no lives matter. What is it about them? Yeah. They're just like less precious about life, I think, probably. And like I think they lack some genes. I'm like, oh. Yeah. Surely. Yeah. Running a fact check. Like what's that gene that black people have or don't have that makes them susceptible? Oh, I don't know. I just think. I just think they have higher tea, but like, yeah, they have like lower impulse control. No, it's not just the

tea. There's something, no, there's something else about like building muscle mass. But didn't you tell me that Russian people are like less susceptible to AIDS? Some are like Northern Europeans in general. I think it comes down to maternal haplow group. I know this because a friend of the pod aunt texted me recently and was like, hey, love your AIDS posting. By the way, you and I have the same maternal haplogroup that is at risk for quick, like really fast degeneration from immunodeficiency. And I was like, oh shit, I thought me being like part Russian would protect me, immunize me against it, but apparently not. But I think, yes, some like northern Russians, like 13% of the population is like more immune to AIDS. And if you have both pairs of this

some gene or something, you're totally immune to it. If you have one copy, you're partially immune. I don't know. Yeah. Like people of different varying, like, ethnicities are, have different susceptibilities to this virus and presumably other viruses. That makes sense. That's why I'm a race realist. And I can say anything I want to say because there's a video. Well, you can't, because I might post this on YouTube and I think it's really easy to get to be more biased. I'm not going to say anything bad or me. I think we're in the clear.

I guess it is like, yeah, I mean, it is like I have to think about this, but it is admirable to train yourself to like not be afraid of heights. I think they were never afraid of heights. I don't think. Yeah, maybe. I see. Yeah.

I don't think they're doing exposure therapy up there. I think they like lack the. capacity to have that experience of fear. Yeah, possibly. Zoran Mamdani. Oh, yeah. Or SSPX? You don't care about the SSPX, obviously.

Well, I just, you're going to have to mansplain it to me because I don't really get it, but the Mamdani speech was interesting. It was short. It was mercifully short. And they provided a transcript. Yeah, I kind of skim the transcripts and I watched some clips. I got the gist Yeah

It's He's kind of He's doing a bummer thing Yeah On the 4th of July Yeah Yeah And I

You know I want to come around to Zoron Because I like winners I like the mayor Like You know As a New Yorker But

I like Yeah When he jumps in the pool In his suit And Is like talking about the nicks, you know, like, like, let's keep, let's keep doing stuff like that. Let's keep up light, yes. Don't do the, like, hostile.

Yeah, well, he's, I also like winners. Yeah, and he's doing, he's, people are right, they're correct that he took a lot from Trump's playbook. So he's like a Trumpian figure or like post-Trumpian figure or whatever, but like, and he's a winner obviously. And he's a fine enough mayor. Yeah. Yeah, he's fine. Like, nothing that bad as has happened. and the subways seem clearer of rabble than usual, but he, like, is winning by losing because he's doing this thing where he's, like,

reframing the mythos and legacy of the founding fathers. He talks about, like, he frames the American Revolution as, like, a brave anti-colonial struggle against colonial oppressors. Right. And then he launches into this, like, panjyric. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly, on immigration,

beginning with like Ellis Islands, like the Jews, the Italians, the Syrians. And he's talking at how all these groups were like fleeing. When did the Ugandans get here? I know. Yeah. He's like, well, I didn't see, my family didn't see the statue of liberty from the boat, but we saw it from a plane. And he's talking about how they're like fleeing pogroms and poverty from Staddles

and slums. And it's like this whole textbook, pretty anodyne narrative of like overcoming adversity with an emphasis on all like the oppression and discrimination these groups faced. Here's a quote. He says each of these new arrivals peered through. I know through port holes onto a city that was changing as fast as the nation. They saw merchants peddling their wares on the docks, streets being laid out in a grid, buildings rising into the clouds. They could not yet see the nativism they would face, the jobs they would be refused, the landlords who would not rent to them and the abject labor and living conditions they would have to withstand. But no matter

how much smog hung over the harbor, they still saw an opportunity to begin anew. And he refra- he, like, does this thing where he reframes American exceptionalism as belonging to the hard work of immigrants. He says, the truth, my friends, is that America is exceptional because here, nothing is fixed into place. So it's like the whole, like, America's an idea, idea. And that idea is always, like, shifting. Our newest of Americans, you hold the power to determine what America means. And then he says a funny thing. Division is the oldest trick in politics and the cheapest, which is ironic because he's

like trading on divisiveness. I guess the most interesting part for me where he basically, in his retelling these white Anglo settlers to the United States who saw their independence from like the British Crown were not so much the founding fathers as just another group of immigrants in the chain of immigration, you know? Like, they just happened to be the first ones. We were a colony. Yeah, and he talks about how, like, New York is, like, a city of contradictions and a nation of contradictions. So it's, like, the wealthiest nation in the world. But it's, like, bled dry by monopolies and oligarchs. It's built on the backbreaking labor of the undocumented who are now being raided by ICE. Like this is all in his speech. And he does like the classic.

This is not appropriate Fourth of July. I know. I know. It is divisive. This is what the Fourth of July is about. Yeah. It's not inspiring or patriotic to talk like that. I mean, it's rage bait once again.

Yeah. Yeah. He's a rage baiter. He's divisive. He knows what he's doing. He does. Yeah, he doesn't, like, he's a well-educated enough guy. He doesn't not know the story of the founding fathers.

He strikes out against corporate landlords and the exploitative health insurance industry. And of course he knows, but conveniently fails to mention that all of these like globalist entities and policies that he's against that are like extracting profit and exploiting people, they're not in conflict with open borders. are in line with it. But he frames it as like, like, the, like, platonic ideal of the American idea is, like, opening, like, flinging the gates open for various new migrant groups. Like, that's the gist of his message. And it just feels very cynical in knowing. It's a lot of, yeah, it's a lot of, like, I know.

And, yeah, like, flanked by the, like, dour, like, unhappy immigrants. and sitting at George Washington's desk. Yeah. Like with his like Taliban stare. I don't need like it's the optics are so bad that he like has like I don't know what the play is. Because he has to have some awareness of how like it's not going to go over well, but it's intentional. I mean, I think it probably does go over well with his voter base, which is comprised of like educated. immigrants like him and also just like third world war people and uh affluent white lib tards and they're

like yes like fuck america you think and he probably knows i i mean i don't know if this um speech 250 no i don't know if it made a splash but he knows he's probably going to like get the conservatards in a tizzy too and they're going to say something mean and racist and you know rinse and repeat well that's what i mean yeah it's like he's he's he's he's he's Exactly. Like, it's like the hand in the buriani. He's like begging you to be upset about how he's a Ugandan guy. He was going to tell you about what America is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He says our country. It's like it's not your country, dude. You came here like 15 years ago and applied for citizenship like seven years ago.

You're brand new. Yeah. Yeah. It's my country. I came here 30 years. years ago. Yes, yeah. He has this line about how the powerful have always known that American exceptionalism is an arena of supremacy where only a select few are allowed freedom, where not all are created equal. America, if you ask them, becomes less, the more people

it welcomes. It belongs only to those with the right accent or the right shade of skin. The rest of us, they insist, should be grateful for merely being allowed to visit. then why does everyone want to come here? Yeah. But that's a direct nod to like right wing discourse where they're like these immigrants are ungrateful and entitled, which they are. He's like kind of clapping back at that. And who are the powerful? Like what does he mean by that?

By being ungrateful and entitled? Yeah. And then he goes on to say how they're so small and so unoriginal. He's doing like the classic like leftist thing. Like that's so so tiresome. But that's fun. It's just like it's. kind of

makes no sense. It's like illogical and contradictory because the elites now aren't like angry, rich old white men. They're like nameless, faceless. They're not even Americans. Ethno elites like Mamdani. Yeah, they're

literally like Chinese and Indian people. Or like the cream of their crop of their society who are coming here and like stripping American society. Yeah, there's like an inherent irony. I mean, and the Jews

and though. But he's never That's why he's paying lip service to the pogroms. Yep, he's very friendly to the Jews in the speech. Because you know he'd never come after a certain sect of belief. Yeah. So that's why he ends up just like trading

in these like vagaries. Yeah, that are that are like vaguely I mean I guess they're like vaguely what? I guess Trump already made his speech at that rush more? I lost my bet. Shit. He didn't say founding father. He didn't say

founding father. I lost 60 bucks. What the fuck? Well, hey, I guess you net it out at zero. Yeah. I'm going to win it back. I'm going to win it back. I'm going to win it back. I guess he can't do this. He can't come right

out and say like the founding fathers were racist and sexist because that wouldn't play well. Well, no, I'm saying Trump. didn't say founding father. No, I know, I know, but Zoron can't. He has to, well, he has to basically kind of like belittle and diminish the founding fathers by framing them as just another group of immigrants versus like the people who like made

this nation because he can't like say what he wants to say. But I guess, hey, it's like a master class and vague, nefarious libt hard speech writing. So good for him. maybe I shouldn't be on call she honestly maybe this isn't a good thing in my life it's okay it's not that bad 60 dollars there's a lot of bets

but I understand it's psychologically I know I know upsetting disappointing yeah it's just yeah it's okay honestly I wish I could have voted on SSPX getting excommunicated because I would have seen that one coming Mm-hmm.

Wait, can you, can you explain that? So SSPX is a set of acantists. Right? They're not, well, no, they're not, no. They're not set of a cantists. Because set of acantists wouldn't want to be in communion with who they consider to be the anti-Pope. Okay. So they have like long been in this kind.

They're similar in that they like are anti-Vatican II. Okay. but they like have been in this kind of they've been excommunicated before by jp2 and then like reinstated they're really like a kind of like a because they're like ultra conservative they're anti-modernism oh anti-acumanism um so they're kind of like a conservative splinter group within catholicism that practices the Latin mass um um um and they were excommunicated on the first because they ordained some bishops without papal approval, basically. Okay. But they think the Pope is real. They like... Okay.

They acknowledge and respect to authority. They think they could not... But they don't... No, they're disobedient, but they think that he is the Pope. Okay. So they're like just... They don't think the subversive sect within the Vatican. I see.

They're not within the Vatican. They're their own thing. Okay. But they're within the church. And he told them, Poplio, not anymore. Now they're excommunicated. Okay. Do you think that they wanted that? But Pope Leo said he said, don't do it. Uh-huh.

No. No, because. But then I do think they... Well, I guess my question is why pose a direct and incontrovertible challenge to papal authority? if you don't expect some sort of serious punishment in return, right? It's a good question. I mean, yeah, they can't be. They claim they had to do it.

I mean, it's a lot. It's really, it's, they're so autistic that they're like horseshoe theory dumb again. And they don't, they've, like, lost grasp of, like, the fundamentals. Okay. And they're, like, trapped in, like, a labyrinth of, like autistic legalese stuff. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

So what will become of them? But it's, people are saying it's the, they're going to keep doing their thing. And if it like ricochets and we get a more conservative pope, he'll probably like reinstate their faculties. I mean, they've been around since the 60s, I guess. Right. Okay. Since Vatican too.

They like splintered and created this like more traditionalist organization. but it is the biggest excommunication, I guess, of like, laity since someone in my, one of my Catholic group texts since the Reformation, but I don't know if that's necessarily true. But they have grown a lot in number because of the internet and the rise of like tradcast, the rise of traditionalism. How many Catholic group chats are you in? Just kind of too. like one one to two okay what it like what does this mean twitter and one like on my phone is it wait is

the same organization that mel gibson belongs to or is he like a straight up set of a cantist he's a set of probationist which is but no he's not he would he like would go to spx um but he's more like properly set it and has his own thing that he's doing name. Okay. That's more like out of communion with Rome probably. And are most of these people based in the United States or are they like a global organization? They are based

Anna. Most of these people are based. Well I don't really get it because like knowing nothing about this. I would just be like a straight up like I would just be a set of a cantist if given the choice. Like if I had an issue with people's already.

Yeah. It's the more like logical kind of thing to do and they want to inhabit this like gray area where they don't want to be separate from the magisterium but they don't want um they're really big in france France France the in France they have like an actual church okay in America they have like they're more disparate and I went to like some I went to an SSPX mass in Tokyo and in New Zealand because they like barely even have Catholics in New Zealand. But they're like they're they are all over but they have like kind of smaller missions. But in Spain and France where they have just more like Catholic people in general, they're more substantial. That makes sense. And I hope they work it out. I know no one

really cares. I'll stop. We can wrap it up. No, I'm interested. I'm like I'm just I'm like, I mean, yeah, I guess we can wrap. How long have we been going? I guess we could talk about hip. Almost an hour. dips, but I have nothing. I have nothing to say about that either. Oh, yeah, I forgot about hip dips. Do you have hip dips? I think so. I honestly don't know.

I think so. Me too. I've been trying to. I've been studying my body trying to figure it out. Yeah, there's not much to do over there. I feel like you could take a picture of any woman and like she would have hip dips. I mean, I think, no, some women really don't and they have like perfectly round hips. and like got to give credit where it's due and like speak the truth and that's just like more

aesthetically pleasing it looks good when a woman has like the hourglass thing but i've never it's like even even as like a pretty like a highly aesthetically observant person this is not something that i've ever thought about but i don't like originally when people started talking out hip dips I assume they were talking about like an exercise because I think hip dips are an exercise, right? It's like when you do the hips. Hip thrust? Yeah. You know what?

Let's both pull down our pants right now on camera and see, just see what we're working with. Yeah. And we'll let you, the fans, decide. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess like I saw somebody saying that if you have hip dips, it means that you have a narrower pelvis that's more recessed. So that would make it harder to give birth. But I don't think that's.

You got that baby out. I got that baby out in like record time. I don't know. I mean, I don't think I've like particularly pronounced. Yeah. I don't have like pronounced hip dips to my knowledge. No, I think maybe it's our. angles and might look like I have them, but my body's fine.

I think realistically also like the skinnier, like the skinnier you are, the more dip you would have because you just have like less fat on your hips. And then it comes down to also like where how your fat is distributed if you're like top heavy or bottom heavy, I'm sure. Well, that's why it's really just about waist it. Waste to hip ratio is the only thing that really matters, right? Yes. And arm to boob ratio.

arm to boob ratio yeah another big one yeah i don't know this feels like one of those things that's like a strictly online thing is i understand it i don't think this is even true this seems like elaborate and far-fetched but it was like a response to women mockingly and dismissively talking about male height like under six one need not apply type thing right so like guys online yeah so they were like roasting females and this led a lot of women to take it personally and get really mad. What was interesting to me about it is it's not. Yeah, it was. It was like doing the classic thing of like trolling women into revealing their like preoccupation and narcissism, whatever. But like this is like one of those things that like nobody notices or cares about

in real life. And even if they do pick up on it, they don't bring it up to you. Maybe like on a subliminal level. It's something people have a word. and it's up, but I don't think, obviously, it's just more rage bait. Yeah. Yeah, and it's, I guess the interesting part of it for me was it's not like they were like cruelly targeting individual women with hip dips, you know, unbeknownst to them. Women were literally like raising their hand and volunteering and being coming out of the woodwork being like, I have hip dips.

And no, I'm not unfuck. And then you just like put you put yourself out there to get money. Yeah, you get there like you get mocked and ridiculed. Yeah. Yeah. Which is stupid. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like driving people out of like the nest, the cave to like chimp out. Yeah. And you know, I like I enjoy talking about aesthetics and all this stuff. But like I question the utility of turning everything into. like a meme because it's not so much that it makes people feel bad and self-conscious because maybe you should feel bad and self-conscious about certain things, but it just makes people, i.e. women, think too much about themselves, which is bad. So now all these girls are like, yeah, going around being like, do I have hip dips, like panicking? I wonder what that's a good

kalshi betting thing, like what's going to be the next thing that women are mocked and ridiculed for? that they can't control. I wish they had more granular stuff like that. It's really, it's not. The markets aren't there for that kind of thing yet, but I hope they get there because I love gambling and I want to keep doing it. Yeah. You know what's an absolute deal breaker for me is attached earlobes.

Absolute deal breakers? Yeah. Wait, I don't think you have attached earlobes. No, you don't. No, you have detailed. You have detached your lips. No, I don't. Yeah.

I don't love them. I think, yeah, deal breaker, really. No, I'm kidding. Obviously not, but it's not my favorite feature, yeah. I do like a nice ear. Me too. Underrated feature. Yeah, I like things that, like, most people don't think to think about, but probably

subliminally notice, like wrists, clavicles, that sort of thing. I like the nape of a man's. neck. True, yeah. You know? That's kind of like a tender zone and ears also are really like intimate. Yeah, they are. And to really love someone and to like be familiar with their ears is something special. Yeah, that's well said. Anyway, I got to get back to the, I got to go to this back to this pool party. I guess I got to go out and return some videotapes before the store is close for the evening. So I'm going to do that. Okay. Safe travels. Thank you, Dasha. Maybe I'll see you in Spain. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah, I'll probably hit you up.

I'm going to maybe, we'll keep in touch. We'll try to connect. Yeah. If the Catholic group chat. Yeah, well, happy birthday. America. You know, in Spain, in Spain, they say if you're not Catholic, like you're nothing. Hmm. Do they? Okay. So I will see. That's true.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. See you and hell. All right.

See you in hell.