Red Scare - The Bell Curve of the Ball

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

The ladies recap the inauguration festivities and Trump's first days in office.

We are back. All the things you said, all the things you said, running through my head, running through my head, running through my head, running through my head. All the things you said, all the things you said, is nothing and nothing. We have never been more ready in my life. We are back. We are back. Hello. Hey. From Trump's America.

Oh yeah, true. We haven't. We did that in Osiratio, and then we went to DC and now we're doing the podcast again. No, fuck. Yeah, they're hard to like open. We're dealing with my Trinidadian cigarettes. The plastic is a cheap. It's just a different's just a different, you know. It's a different vibe. Same cigs, I assume. How are you? What's up with all these packages?

Okay, I'm a shopping addict. I have a shopping addiction. What's that big one outside? That is a cabinet. store all the shit that I buy online. But I have a problem with it, which is why the box is out there. Because it's missing some parts. Well, I don't know. I'm going to try to get a discount and keep it.

I've been very good about my returns. You've been making them or you've not been shopping. I've been shopping a bit. I was really, the dohenn dress that I wore to the passage press ball. Darling. Cause I'm a populist, very mid-market. We looked so tame compared to the only other lady.

I know, but that's what I wanted to look like. I wasn't trying too hard. Or like not wearing makeup. I was wearing so much makeup. I know, but in comparison, yeah. I thought I was gonna look bronze. I was like, I'm wearing, I'm wearing I can't do it Anna I'm gonna try okay I'll try I'm wasted already so but yes so I was starving mm-hmm full disclosure you were starving. Full disclosure. You were you were starving yourself before before.

So that's because the dress only really works if you're a little underweight, because I had a size up that looked kind of frumpy and like funerally, because it's the empire waist. It's ladies. You know what I'm talking about So I was kind of frail max saying but then I was really happy to start eating again Very cute dress we have for matching we were kind of matching. And I got this Balkan whiskey. It's that Albanian. Yeah, it's really Augustus flow. It's got a kick to it. Sorry, what were we talking about?

I have no idea. Oh, you're not drunk, you're sober. I'm sober, yeah. Cool. I'm just stupid. Oh yeah, so I returned to the other downdress. I'm getting, I'm just stupid. Oh yeah, so I returned to the other downdress. I'm you know, I'm getting I'm doing it. Yeah. I bought another dress that by like panic bought a dress at Bloomingdale's that I immediately regretted and got that

turned in. Just staying on top of this. It feels amazing. It does. It feels like making money. Yes. Technically not. I will confess that I'm a shopping addict, not because I like to get new shit, because I actually don't. Like the new shit is like the Lacanian

proxy for satisfaction. Right. But I do enjoy the return process because it makes me feel incredibly accomplished when I run an errand. Yeah. I told Anna this, there's construction going on

outside my apartment. It's really annoying to complain about. I'm gonna do it anyway. It's deafening. It's like they're doing, they're building like a high rise or something. And so there's just jackhammering from 8 a.m. until it gets dark. And it's unbearable to be in my apartment. And I know that it's like God punishing me for saying people need to go to work. Yeah. Cause I'm like, damn, I have to actually, I can't be in my apartment during banking hours

and I have to find another place to go. I mean, I have a place to go, I'm not gonna dox my alternate location. But it's not always convenient and it's been so cold that I don't wanna go around my errands and it's just been, I really feel like a victim. You know, I'm like something is happening to me that is out of my control.

You feel like the Isabella Johnny character in possession. I feel like I'm going crazy. I've had like a two day long like migraine basically. And I've done the noise canceling headphones, I've done the white noise, but it's like my apartment's like shaking. No, you gradually go insane and you don't even realize that you're going insane. This happened to me last year because they were like drilling on my street. They tore up the whole street. I remember. But they, unlike your block, which is civilized, mine is not, and they

were drilling at all hours of the night because they were trying to get ahead of traffic. So that was unbearable. And I remember being a total Karen, like running outside and yelling at the construction people, not yelling. I was such a cock. I was like, I know you boys are just doing your job. Can I get you sandwiches? It's not their fault, but they're like, are you homeless? I feel like John Dutton, the way I don't want this construction to go on. I were like, are you homeless? I feel like John Dutton, the way I don't want this construction to go on.

I feel like I'm besieged. It's gonna be years, yeah. And these Jewish guys, a couple months ago, these Jewish guys, literally wearing yarmulkes, came into my apartment and took a picture of a window in my hall and said, we're gonna develop a building here. And I was like, I was a here and I was like I was a

bitch I was like how long is that gonna take and they were like years and like left and I was like fuck so I know it's them yeah and it's really their fault but there's nothing I can do I can't be you know I have to just I can move but I don't want to so I'm just gonna like go to the office functionally and maybe it'll be good for me, you know, but I love to lie in bed at least until noon usually so that's my rhythms like It's all out of sorts DC was a blast. It was fun. It was interesting

I've never really been I went once with the come boys Yeah, they just did a show and then I didn't really get to see what did you do? We just stayed like an Airbnb and then we went to Baltimore to visit Nick's family We like wrote we like did a road trip. Um, and DC wasn't just, was that really like a big stop, I guess. Yeah. Um, but this time I felt like, you know, I didn't really go, it was so cold, but you know, I saw some stuff. We met some anons.

That was the best part I think was meeting people coming up to me. Putting a face to a name. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of young men coming up to me, showing me their phones, seeing that we're mutual. Some of them I've talked to, Spurgler Acolyte, you know? The cutest boy.

I looked back in our DMs, I was like, we've been talking since like, I know for years. I know these people are like my internet friends. I know and like we got to I get to meet them in this like, yeah, nice victorious venue. Am I doxing him if I say that he looks like a beautiful girl? No, he knows. like a beautiful girl? No. He does. No. Um, yeah, still not sold on, not blondes, not for me, but... Yeah, but you can appreciate, of course, of course, yeah. The beauty of a blonde adult male. He was not dysgenic in the least. No. Um,

we didn't make it to the liberty ball. We tried. We tried. We had wristbands, which were hard to secure. Yeah. I felt so, I really thought like, we were gonna get in there and be shmoozing it up with Tucker and Steve and the other Steve and the third Steve. I thought we'd be like rubbing shoulders, you know? And instead I learned like, oh, I'm not a powerful political operative in Washington. We're low-b's.

I'm like, no, I like plebs. It doesn't. Shout out to the gay guy. Which gay guy? In line who recognized us. He wasn't gay. I think he was. No, he has a girlfriend.

How do you know? He was there with his girlfriend. No. Yeah. He was there alone? He was there with his girlfriend. No. Yeah, he was there alone. He was there with his girlfriend. No. The guy we tried to sneak in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I DM'd with him after and he was like, my girlfriend and I finally got in. It was a shit show. Wow, I didn't realize. He was a sweet boy. She was very demure. To her credit, I didn't even recognize, I thought he was gay.

Which is why I intrusively asked him if we could cut, this was already so way back in the line. Yeah. It was crazy. The lines were like, this is what Auschwitz felt like. Like being herded. Yeah. The lines were like, this is what Auschwitz felt like. Like being herded. Yeah. With like military anti-scale fence work everywhere.

And yeah, so we did the smart thing, I think, and just called it quits. Yeah. I wasn't, you know, Vince Vaughn. There was also like three balls. It's all very, it's not for us. No. Navigating these bureaucracies, you know.

But, oh, we saw Michael Tracy. We did see Michael Tracy. That was awesome. It was great he was there, you know, people really hate that guy. I don't know why he's a lovely man. He is he's great. He's a little one of the last independent journalists we have. What else?

I don't know. I'm like manically drunk. I've been up since 8 a.m. Oh my god, Anna. It's like 11 and we're podcasting. I mean, do you want to, are you feeling okay? I'm fine. I can do it. Everybody thinks I'm crazy. I went to my nephew's first birthday in New Jersey. So cute. Went to the Mark Coco Pelley opening at Rena, went to Baccaro to dinner,

and now I'm here podcasting. In Trump's America. Yeah. Which seems to be going well. We can talk about that. I like wrote down all these notes about Trump's executive orders and like first actions in the first couple of days as president and now it's like completely out of mind. I I took a bunch of Adderall to research all these people and completely forgot who, you know, I was like, I was like, I have to look him up again.

I'm so stupid. I'm so stupid I didn't bring a book to DC. Okay. And usually I do this neurotic thing where I bring too many books as if I'm gonna like for the first time in my life read a whole book and then you have nothing to do. But I like just brought zero books. So all I did was like do skincare and makeup all day. Yeah. I'm like look at play chess. Look at play chess. But yeah, the executive orders. Day one light bulbs. Yes. We're back. Yeah. Consumer choice in light bulbs. Wait, let's pull up the executive orders. I was honestly, basically a single issue voter.

The light bulbs. I wanted the incandescent bulbs back. And they're back. And they're back. And he delivered. Yeah. Well, okay, my big question was how binding are the executive orders?

I think it varies. Well, they're apparently, so they're in effect until they're overturned by the next Democratic administration or until they're challenged in court. Which like they're already getting sued. Yeah, yeah. The big one is like the birthright citizenship, which is already being challenged. Right. What does that mean? Like if you were born here, you're a citizen? Yes. So historically, if like people would come here just to have children so that they can be citizens. Yeah.

I mean, that one seems. And now that's over for the time being. I think if you were born on American soil, you kind of aren't American. Yeah. But like that's unfair because people deliberately come here so that they can have kids born on American soil so they can do the chain migration. I mean, I'm sure other countries do that, but everybody wants to be born in America.

It'd be cool to go have a baby in Paris and then they're French. Well, they probably don't even have that. Let me look at that. Let me look at that. Can we get a fact checker on this? I feel like I'm in Coke. I understand how it's a technicality that can be exploited, but it seems like when that is gamified enough that...

I think the idea is that the legal process is sort of baked into the cake because they want the executive order to be challenged. So it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court and then they contest it. And if the court, which is conservative now, votes in your favor, then that's codified into law. Yeah, you have to have at least one French parent.

into law. Yeah, you have to have at least one French parent. But then they have, if they're born to foreign parents, they may be eligible if they live there for. So they have a version of it, but you have to kind of live there. Yeah. It's not as easy, I guess, as it is here. Yeah. Whatever. But now this is all up in the air. here. Yeah. Whatever. But now this is all up in the air. TikTok is no longer banned. He signed an executive order that lifts the ban for 75 days. And it seems like what they're gonna try to do, the Chinese company is called Bite Dance. Okay. Trump has said he wants 50-50 equity in the company to have an American basically. Well, they wanna find an American firm

that will acquire TikTok essentially. They're not gonna be able to fully acquire it, but that's what they're kind of negotiating is like they can mitigate the Chinese mind control by getting more shares at least of the company. But the technology itself is, I don't think China's gonna hand it over. Sell.

But now people are so it went dark on the 19th and then like Trump signed the order it's back up. But people can't like redownload it or update the software. And some people on it are complaining that they're being censored. How so? Like if they post about Luigi or Palestine that the algorithm is like, not like promoting their videos the way it used to. Yeah. So they're claiming that there's a political agenda with the new TikTok. Okay, so the big ones were,

he declassified the JFK, RFK, and MLK files. He ended birthright citizenship. He introduced a suite of other immigration orders that declared a national emergency at the southern border, halted refugee admissions, revived the remain in Mexico policy, which forces asylum seekers to stay in Mexico for their asylum

hearings. He withdrew from the World Health Organization, the Paris Climate Accord. He recognized that there are only two sexes. He expanded American energy production. He obviously pardoned the Jan Sixers. This is from WAPO regarding the birthright citizenship issue. The US government will no longer recognize the citizenship of children born in the United States to immigrants who lack legal status according to an order Trump signed Monday.

It also bars birthright citizenship for children born to people on temporary work, student and tourist visas. The order, which is expected to face legal legal scrutiny reinterprets the words and subject to the jurisdiction thereof in the 14th amendment of the US constitution blah blah blah, which grants citizenship to nearly all people born on the US soil to exclude babies born to parents legally in the country. That sounds fair. If your parents are here illegally and you're born on US soil, it seems unfair that you should automatically become a citizen. I guess so. But if you have like a visa or green card status, then I think you're good.

Yeah, I think you're fine. But yeah, if you're... Well, you saw the video of the Haitian guy getting arrested and saying, I'm not going back to Haiti. Fuck Trump, Biden forever, bro. And thank you, Barack Obama, for everything you did for me. And he's so scary and angry in the car and stuff. And he has 17 criminal convictions. And then all these other people, how did, I guess I don't understand how they weren't arrested sooner. Yeah, I don't know.

Like is that, is it really that easy? To come here? No, to sign like an executive order that like, because it's not like, it seems it's happening so quickly. Yeah. That they just know exactly where to find these like, criminal aliens and deport them. Yeah.

And like we knew the whole time, obviously. Remember like Trump's famous line that they're just like releasing them from prisons and mental institutions, which I thought was like a dramatization and embellishment, but maybe it's not. I mean, 17. I know.

And like you watch all those videos of like ICE, right, rounding up illegals in Boston, and they're like, MS-13 gay members, they're like, it's like they're arresting people. That's like, why was there MS-13 gay member here convicted of crimes for so long? Because Brandon said, okay. And they're all like serial rapists or armed robbers or cartel members. I mean, that's, I feel like boomed out the way I can't believe this. I know. And like, their explicit order was to target people with criminal records first,

which is like, how are they doing that? It's not like they have a database of people who are here illegally who have criminal records because they're here illegally. So I guess they do, dude. I guess they have, do have a database since they've been arrested. Or they're just like.

And then released but not. Yeah and how are there so many like criminal illegals walking the streets of cities like Boston? And how has it been so easy to block them up the whole time? I don't know. I feel this is. This is way over my head. Carolyn Levitt, who's like the new Trump press secretary, the new cute blonde, said that the Trump administration arrested 538 illegal immigrant criminals, including a suspected terrorist, four members of the Tren de la Ragua gang, and several illegals

convicted of sex crimes against minors like this was all in the first couple of days. Like, how is that possible? It's crazy. I really mean, real talk and it's going to mean it's annoying thing to say. But I don't, I actually don't know her status, but I don't want my maid to get deported. And I don't want to find a maid that's not an illegal immigrant. Why? Cause she's going to charge more.

Yeah. And like probably not work as hard. Yeah. She's going to be like, and we can't just have spoiled and up to the city. You know, I can't just well, and also not to air out the passage boys, but I feel like all the bartenders that night were probably illegals. I mean, I doubt it at the one. No, definitely. Like all service workers are illegal immigrants. All I mean, not all but like, okay, I'm a service girl. Like back in the day when I was working restaurants, everybody in the kitchen was illegal. I feel like the

Watergate Hotel, you know, you have to pay tax. I don't know. It's not that easy to just hire illegal people to work at like a business. That's why they do, you know, like independent contract work through DoorDash or, you know, our maids and nannies and stuff like this. I mean I might be wrong. No, I think they all are like seriously illegal and I don't know how they stay a step ahead of the law. Well they weren't getting deported in mass before but well they're still not it seems like it's a good it's good to start with the with the Crim's get the Crim's out of here they tried to send two planes to Columbia do you hear

about that no Columbia said no mm-hmm wait I'll read you the Trump post. They also have like the collateral rule. So now when ICE raids like a residence where a criminal is suspected of living, they'll also round up any other illegal that they find in the vicinity and send them back to. send them back to? Sure. So I was just informed, this is Donald Trump, that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of legal criminals were not allowed to land in Colombia.

This order was given by Colombia's socialist president Gustavo Petro, who is already very unpopular amongst his people. Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security and public safety of the United States so I have directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the United States in one week the 25% tariffs will be raised to 50% and then travel bans, blah, blah. AOC, quote, tweeted it and said, "'To punish Colombia, Trump is about to make

"'every American pay even more for coffee. "'Remember, we pay the tariffs, not Colombia. "'Trump is all about making inflation worse "'for working class Americans, not better. "'He's lining the pockets of himself "'in the billionaire class.'" Is that true? While we do pay the tariffs, class. Is that true?

Well, we do pay the tariffs, but it's not, we can get coffee from other places. That's a free market, baby. And Columbia is going to fall in line. They got to take them back. Yeah. Or they get dumped in Mexico. Like, where do they go? I guess they're back here in some facility. Yeah, like, it's, it's very unclear how this is all going to work in practice down the line, because like, all this stuff

takes time. And they were saying, like, if a country is cooperative, they can have them back in a number of days But if it's not and it'll take weeks if not months Well, they don't want them back Seems to seem silly ish. Yeah Is that they want it to take as long as possible? Yeah but tariffs are big

Seems like this can be a big motif for Trump, which is above my pay. No, I'm obviously not an economist, but it does seem to me that tariffs are a pretty effective way of like a country like Columbia. You know, their main X like putting tariffs on them will harm their economy. So they will cooperate. Yes. Real politic. Real politic.

But then people were saying I was retarded and that I should look up what the president of Colombia actually said and apparently it's because they brought them in military planes, which like violated some. He's splitting hairs though. Yeah. He knows, come on. Wait, explain this. Um, Trump is making it seem like he just says that he doesn't want them, but actually my understanding is that Trump violated some agreement they had by bringing them over and like military plans, which they're not supposed to do. They're supposed to go on civilian flights. Or I don't know. There's some, it's, you know.

I mean, what are your options? It doesn't, it's whatever Pedro's on about, seems like beside the point. And the point is like these people are from your country and came over here. Yeah. Criminally. Yeah. So they're crimes. So you have to take them back. Yeah. We can't be responsible for your criminals. Yeah. No, a lot of people were mad at me when I made my factory farming tweet. Oh my God, that was, I really was like, this is people get mad at Anna for anything. But you said for saying she doesn't want animal cruelty. Yes, but they were saying that like, oh, you care more about like the livelihood of like

cows and pigs over like human beings, which is not true. But like the human beings that we're talking about, I feel for them like there was that viral video of that lady in Mexico sobbing hysterically because her asylum hearing was canceled. And like I feel for that lady, I don't like to see anybody crying and suffering and going through it, but I find the whole premise of asylum hearings to be questionable in the first place because when you hear asylum, you think like, oh, people are being like repressed and threatened in their home country, which may be true by the way, but there's no way of like guaranteeing that.

And a lot of people are obviously gaming the system and claiming asylum because they wanna come over here for economic reasons. My parents didn't do this, but they were told by a Russian Jewish lawyer when we came to this country that we could get asylum to stay here by saying we were Jewish. So you are Jewish.

Yeah. But I think maybe I'm like misremembering this, but my mom didn't want to. That's noble. Yeah, like had some anxiety about, yeah, they had other avenues, but yeah, you could just say there's cartel violence, blah, blah. But I think in the future, in the next couple of days,

weeks, months, there will be a lot of immigration propaganda porn of women and children crying, being separated, seemingly being abused, which is like, you know, horrific to see, but that's like how they get you to accept the premise of unlimited immigration. And it's like very odd and like completely out of it, manic wasted, but like you can't have a nation if you just like fling open the doors

and let anybody in obviously. Of course. No JD Vance just did a good job on some some broad was interviewing him about the immigration staff and saying that like these people have been vetted and he was saying they're well they haven't been vetted accurately because some of these people who have been allegedly vetted ended up like conspiring against, you know, to commit terrorism. And then she tried to say that it wasn't clear if he was radicalized after he got here or not.

Like she was trying to make a case for like the vetting process, which she was saying needed to be revamped, which would include something like asylum, where you would be vetted. And like, I mean, should things function the way they're supposed to? Yeah, like if like a drug cartel is making your life unbearable, you can come to this country and be vetted and like show that you will be a contributing, a simulated member of society and be allowed here. That's not off the table.

But yeah, but the issue is everything is so obviously broken because there's total mess up. Like mayhem. Like crims beyond. And all the cartels that are threatening you over there here anyway. There's MSNK and. They're like running the streets,

taking over entire apartment blocks. If you have, I mean, that's what Bukele did is if you have a face tattoo, you go to jail. Yeah. Because that's what the gangs do to initiate a dare counselor now. Like if someone tells you you have a face tattoo, don't do it. But yeah, basically, yeah, if you have a ton of scary tattoos, and, you know, look like a fucked up scary guy, then you're probably going to commit some crimes. And we can't we can't just take you know.

Yeah. But yeah, I'm surprised there wasn't there hasn't been more kind of trauma porn like that already like everything I've seen like the guy Saying I'm not going back to Haiti. Thank you, Barack Obama I'm like this is like propaganda for the right. This is nuts But eventually sure I'm Can predict that there would be like eventually sure I'm can predict that there would be like over corrections. What was that boy's name? Emilio Gonzalez.

Oh, Elion Gonzalez. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of that in the future. But we'll see. I mean, it's really it's it'll just be like a photo of like Lenny and me getting deported back to Riga from our Chinatown apartment. They say Trump's done more in 100 hours than any president has done in 100 days. He signed more executive orders than any president in history, the second term. Anna and I were when we decided basically not to try and go to the inauguration ball. We went to like a hotel bar where they were showing him

signing executive orders and it was awesome. And everyone at the bar started cheering when Barron came on screen. And there was that black lady who kept going, that's that swag, he got that presidential swag. But it was very like, I thought I found it very adorable. He seemed so pleased with himself. And we started tossing the pens.

When he tossed the pens, I'm like, I do feel blissful. Like I don't care who Pete Hegseth is. I like don't really, coffee is gonna be more expensive. Like I don't believe you AOC. We're all fighting for our right to just like not care about politics as much anymore. Yeah, exactly. And we can all just enjoy.

Which is also a cope and a lie because everybody's so addicted to talking about politics that like, if that like well ever dried up, we'd be miserable. Because what would we do? We'd have to go to like art shows and write poems and be like downtown denizens like we used to be. I mean, I think it's possible. I think, you know, when Trump said we're going to get tired of winning, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, okay. I feel like everything's going according to plan and I don't have to worry about it. Yeah, the gender one was a good one too. He said that at the inauguration.

What? In his speech that there was only going to be two genders from now on. Yeah, and so he directed the Bureau of Prisons to ensure that no federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate's appearance to that of the opposite sex. So he put the kibosh on transgenders. I mean, I would even expand that to say that like no federal funds, no taxpayer dollars should ever go to any gender affirming care for minors. For anyone. For anyone. Yeah.

I like I'm not against people medically transitioning. Should they so choose? Yeah, they come to that decision on their own. That would be like a very tiny, tiny fringe minority of people, but if you come to that conclusion yourself, you should probably be made to pay for that kind of elective medicine and surgery on your own. It's like getting plastic surgery, cosmetic surgery.

It's like, oh, I want to be hotter and thinner. I'm going to get a BBL and lip injection. It's not fair that you can get facial feminization surgery. And I can't. It's just not like, yeah, I can't just identify as having huge tits and go on Medicaid and try and get the government to pay for my plugging. I'm identifying as blonde now.

You have to pay for my hair appointments for the rest of my life. No, it's a boutique issue. It's a boutique procedure. But the idea that taxpayers should be fronting- Safe, legal, rare, and expensive. Yeah. But the idea that like taxpayers should be safe, legal, rare and expensive. Yes. But like the fact that like any taxpayer should ever in any ambient indirect way have to pay for

the transgender operations of like convicted felons. In prison is. Absurd and monstrous. And I think he moved to remove like transgender inmates from opposite sex prisons. I mean, that'll have some ugly consequences for sure. But in terms of paying for felon surgeries,

I really think we don't need to do that. Yeah. in terms of paying for felon surgeries, I really think we don't need to do that. Yeah. He also signed some executive orders about the federal bureaucracy and DI programs. So he ordered federal workers to cease remote work and come back to the office. He issued a freeze on federal hiring with the exception of military personnel and jobs related to quote immigration enforcement, national security or public safety.

And he's also demanding the elimination of government diversity programs. This includes the termination of all federal offices and positions related to diversity, equity, and inclusion as well as environmental justice. The order also directs his administration to review which federal contractors have provided DI training materials to federal workers in which federal funding grantees have been given funds to advance DI and environmental justice. That's the kind of thing I feel like, well, the lawsuits will deal with the Civil Rights Act, right?

Yeah. The lawfare will pertain to that and will be, you know, it'll jam up the gears for sure. Yeah, like one of the key pieces was rescinding the Lyndon B. Johnson 1965 Executive Order 11246, which is what established affirmative action as the law of the land. What? Yeah.

Lyndon B. Johnson did that? Yes. Yeah. After they took out Jamie. Yeah. Which, yeah, we don't know. The files haven't been declassified yet. For what?

For JFK, MLK, RFK. Okay, that I'm like the least interested in. I think that that's probably like a point of curiosity for the American public, but I don't really care. I'm intrigued. I think it will be more banal than we think. Yeah. But we think. Yeah. But we deserve to know.

But it's funny because if you think about it, I know that we love to hate Richard Hanania for being a Pizzuzi-like troll. And I know we love to make fun of Chris Ruffo for telling boys to go work at Panda Express when he hired a porn star. He knows what he did. Yeah, but I feel like they, in a weird way, this is their impact. I know that sounds crazy and far-fetched. Well, Ruffo, no, Rufo's been working, you know, at the grassroots level. You know, he seems like he's actually like really created a lot of political momentum

and force for these sorts of things. Yeah, has obviously been influential. Yeah, he was one of the first activists to be like openly aggressively anti anti racism and anti gender ideology. Yeah. But I feel like in a weird backhanded way it was Hanani who kind of put him up to it because back in the day back in day, like a year or two ago, Hanania was a real like loud vociferous critic of civil rights law. Okay.

And he had a, I mean, he wrote a book about it. He had a podcast with this law, legal scholar Gail Harriot, who had that great line that under civil rights law, everything is presumptively illegal. Like anything can be seen as a source of discrimination. And of course that's contingent on who is in power. So if like the left, if liberals are in power,

they will discriminate against white men basically and Promote the causes of like minorities women that sort of thing so I Think that was really like that was the beginning of like I feel like somebody in Trump's administration was listening to those two guys. Yeah, I mean, I don't follow Hanani enough to know. But Rupo, like he was he's in Florida, right? No, he's like on the west coast, California Bay Area, I want to say, I remember when he came on the show, he was saying he had

tangible, you know, he was like through school districts and stuff. He was doing like Paul. He was doing politics, which like, Ananias is he's always doing? Yeah, in a weird backhanded way. And it's funny because neither of those guys is like explicitly pro Trump. Like, I feel like a roof. Oh, until very recently was a desantoid. And Hanani has spent the entire election counter signaling Trump and like caping for Kamala in like a performative trolling way. Yeah.

Rufo just had an op-ed in the New York Post. About what? About how the leftist mobs have failed to silence him. And I didn't really read it to be honest. No. But yeah, he's doing his thing though. Um, I agree.

Yeah. I remember like, I think in 2022 or 2023, he laid out this whole like three-part blueprint slash wishlist for how to counteract anti-racism. I think in pragmatically, yes, but spiritually, you know, people don't like the woke crap. Like, it just, it's all kind of,

what's the word I'm looking for? I'm doing a gesture with my hand. Dovetailed? Yeah. It all kind of, you know, it's people, it's the people really are sick of DEI. Yeah, yeah, but Rufo provided an intellectual lineage for the rise of wokeness in his book.

And then Hanania provided a legal lineage for the rise of wokeness in his book, which comes from Christopher Caldwell, obviously, and it comes down to the Civil Rights Act, which basically the argument is like, the whole premise of the Civil Rights Act, which like, basically the argument is like, the whole premise of the Civil Rights Act is that it wants to put an end to discrimination of any kind. But the way that it played out in practice, it ended up being the opposite of its stated intentions because it basically allowed and in fact encouraged discrimination

against white people, specifically white men. Well, Ruhu's thing is because it was like a through march through the institution. Yeah. It was like the Maoism in the university system kind of like trickled down into politics. Yeah. I have a schizophrenic friend who thinks this is not the case. And that wokeism was actually the crash of the CIA. And it's actually like, many levels like many levels more complicated, which I'm

open to, but I haven't done the research. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Yeah. So okay, so this was Rufo's agenda. First, you have to outlaw affirmative action and racial preferences, starting with the Lyndon B. Johnson order, then you have to outlaw affirmative action and racial preferences, starting with the Lyndon B. Johnson order. Then you have to eliminate disparate impact, which has entrenched the doctrine that disparate group outcomes are de facto evidence of racial discrimination, which he calls a preposterous standard since equal rights necessarily mean unequal outcomes. While, yeah.

And like the presence of bias or discrimination cannot be inferred, working backwards from outcomes but must proceed from like concrete provable instances of like malice or animus, right? Which, you know, can be ascertained through a legal process. And then last but not least, the final item on his wish list

was to abolish the DI bureaucracies which openly discriminate against disfavored racial groups, impose ideological orthodoxies on American citizens, and restrict freedoms of speech and association. So, so far Trump is like two for three on those executive orders. I mean, this might be legally challenged, but at least going for it The right the issue I feel is that like With affirmative action with these sort of like racialized groupings, they just didn't,

just anyone who is like non-white is oppressed was, this was like the whole premise of like stop Asian hate, you know, and the way that like a lot of like Indian people tried to steal clout from black people. And that's why they came up with like BIPOC because POC was too wide of a term. And then they said BIPOC, okay, so like black indigenous, but then it's like, what does black mean? You know? And then, okay, descendant of slaves.

But then you could basically be white and have slaves. African and Caribbean immigrants started piggybacking, also stealing valor from foundational black Americans. But there isn't, there are, some people are more foundationally black American than others. And like the, you can't really just make it about like slave ancestry because there's probably like white people who have like some slave ancestry, like white, you know, it's like, it's all such over frost.

Appalachia, you know, there's people with, you know, the oppression Olympics were just a flop. Yeah, but the idea that like the whole concept of like disparate impact, the fact that you can look at outcomes and be like this group is underperforming according to these standards. They have like lower literacy, higher crime rates, and this is de facto evidence of discrimination is preposterous. It's crazy. Well, because the alternative is just racist. Yeah, it's bleak and unflattering. But it's a mix. Yeah.

It's a mix. But you can't tailor policy. No. To work backward from outcomes. Yeah. I think it was like I think Nick Funt does the saying that like, the concept of colorblind meritocracy, which the Trump administration is trying to enforce now is actually anti-white and anti-American. Yeah. But of course, as everybody implicitly understands, it is the polite and civil way of acknowledging group disparity. Right. But then it privileges non-white ethnic groups.

Well, it privileges Asians. Yeah. But that's if you define merit based on like quantitative, you know, like on test scores and stuff like that. And if you want to, you know, get racial with values, no, No, it's just it's always going to be imperfect. Yeah. Um, unless you have like overt white supremacist policies, which are not viable or preferable for me. I mean, I think like some people would argue that colorblind meritocracy is white supremacist. Why? When it privileges Asians?

Well, because white people end up performing better than blacks and Hispanics. So not as good as Asians, but everybody agrees to ignore Asians because we are in the tech sector. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, that's the gist of Bannon's speech at the passage press ball. He like read the room because he's so gracious. But like he's really waging a war against like a tech oligarchy, which is now terminology that like Biden adopted in his like farewell speech and stuff. But um,

he isn't advocating for colorblind meritocracy because he understands that like, um, in like tech and academia, whites will be outperformed. Yeah, sure. And just because we don't want like being an American isn't about having the highest test scores or doing the most homework or like defining merit so narrowly is an actually like potentially good for

America. I don't know. Now I'm drunk. Do I sound crazy? I see. This is like the most manic and unstable episode ever. Yeah, we feel like I'm yeah. But I guess the argument is that all these DEI woke programs that funnel money into

underprivileged minorities are basically unconstitutional because they actually go against the stated premise of civil rights law, which is a lack of discrimination because in a way they end up in it like a back ass backwards way, they end up discriminating against white people. But they're also like in practice, just like, uh, horribly counterproductive because yes, they disadvantage white people. They don't particularly help minorities at the end of the day. They don't elevate minority communities, not real minority. And they create a jobs program for bureaucrats and are just a huge time sink and money suck and are like evil across the board.

And so we got planes falling out the sky because they don't let white men fly there anymore. It's just, I mean the- Like they basically like just lead to bloated and distortionary spending. Like that's my main argument for why they have to go. Yeah, it's not like underprivileged minorities in the inner city are really truly benefiting

from any of these programs in the long run. In the short run, sure, maybe they're getting like little kickbacks and perks and amenities. It's like a fucking American born Indian person, you know, being like, I, they picked on me when I brought my tikka masala to school and like blah, blah. And it's like, you are from like a Brahmin cast. Like, yeah, you're not underprivileged. We are a pre technically a POC or people who are technically from POC backgrounds can steal valor can piggyback on the play of native minorities blacks and teepee Indians,

not slurpy Indians, and can throw their lot in with that plight, which is why the stop Asian hate thing was such a big deal. That was the, it shocked me then, but in hindsight, I really am like, I can't believe they really were trying to make stop Asian hate happen. really I'm like I can't believe they really yeah and it was like in retrospect it was like six-figure Chinese and Korean and Indian girl bosses yeah like throwing their chips in with the voices of the unheard. With old Asian people getting pushed on the tracks by like black Asian guys.

No, I mean, how many white people did hate crimes against Asian people? Yes. And even when a hate crime against an Asian person occurred and it was fully disambiguated that it was at the hands of some like black teen, the story, the narrative went, well, this is still evidence of white supremacy. Because Trump said, come on. Yeah. Oh, and everyone is suffering from false consciousness. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, it's it feels good. Yeah. Should we talk about the inauguration itself? Yes.

Which we also do not go to. No. But that's it was moved indoors to the Arctic chill. And then we were told by that nice lady at the convention center that even if we did go, we'd still be watching it on a screen. Yes. So we all opted to watch it alone on a screen. Isolated from our sleep in our hotel rooms.

I cracked a Diet Coke the moment it started. And that was beautiful. I had a really, I had, I love the Battle Hymn of the Republic, Glory, Glory, Hallelujah, which Trump also danced to the Elvis kind of cover. It was a cover of the Elvis kind of cover of the Battle of the Republic, but they sang the full one at the inauguration. And there's a neutered version of it where they say,

they're talking about Christ and how he died to make men holy, so we should die to make men free. And in the neutered version, they say, we live to make men holy, so we should die to make men free. And in the neutered version, they say, we live to make men free. But at the inauguration, they sang, die to make men free. Which I thought was beautiful.

I really, I got, it was so emotional. The black preacher. Oh yeah, he was good. Lorena. Free at last. Oh yeah. It was awesome. It was like leprechaun in the hood. Trump told him, you're a star.

He was clearly moved. He came and gave him a hug, say you're a star. When you're a star, they let you do it. Yeah. They let you say free at last. MLK'd it. The black preacher is kind of a bad boy. Is he?

Yeah, apparently he had a rap sheet, just like MLK. Yeah, he was like, he was like Jay-Z. He used to be a drug dealer. Very cool, well, hey, redemption. And now he's a two bit preacher. He's a drug dealer. Very cool, well, hey redemption. He's a two bit preacher. He's a one, I mean, I don't know if one or two is better, but he's at the inauguration. Cardinal Dolan led the invocation,

which they had all the religious leaders out. I've seen Cardinal Dolan twice at the Byzantine Catholics Assembly and the Young Catholic Professionals Gala. So I'm like, this guy's coming out. I was like, come on, Dolan. That's so boring. Bring that schizo orthodox guy out from the young Republicans class. bring some freak based Orthodox. That's like, I was really hoping he'd do something. Honestly, I think it should have been the Byzantine Catholic priest who blessed Trump before the assassination attempt. Interesting. Bald, isn't he Catholic? Just like Dan Alegretto should have led the invocation, but whatever, Dolan,

let him have it. They have to like wheel every guy from every denomination. Oh, I know. But the first who leads the location. Yeah, does matter. And then the next day they had the prayer breakfast for that woke. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

The lesbian bishop. I'm doing air quotes. Because of course, not only Anglicans, not priests or bishops, but women absolutely, definitely not. Never been with a church taught, completely heretical. I know Dasha, as a non-religious secular person, I have no excuse to opine on this,

but my deepest instinct is that women should not serve as top clergy. They shouldn't be like, I even have a problem. Yes. So should it be not nuns? Does that count? That's clergy. They're none. They're not clergy. They're monastics. Okay. Um, they're like monks. I don't know why I can't explain or articulate this, but I don't think that women should be shepherding flocks of parishioners. I even take umbrage when there's... It's not that... I don't even think it should be controversial to say it's never ever been what the church has...

It just feels wrong. Of course. Of course it's wrong. I even have like kind of a problem with female rabbis. Definitely. And I don't even care about their religion, but sure. Yeah, that's they're all like reform. Yeah. There's no ortho. I mean, like, actually, I don't know. But no, no, no, no, no. Many saints have said that if there's women in the priesthood, this religion is deformed. This is wrong.

It's people, it's in, and she, annoying, please have mercy on, blah, blah. Lots of people tagging me being like, for real? I'm like, this isn't a Catholic person. Yeah, Catholic, never. I mean, I never say never. But Biden became a Freemason. What does that mean? He joined, he was like greeted into a Masonic lodge.

Okay. Which is a pretty explicitly and basically he's excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Okay. There was no formal decree, but joining a fraternal order like the Masons, does technically excommunicate you from the Catholic Church. Because they have a long history of being anti-Catholic and they don't believe in God. They believe in reason and men and fraternity and grouping together and blah blah. I don't believe in God. They believe in like reason and men and like fraternity and the grouping together and blah, blah. I don't know exactly what the Masons are about

or what they're up to now. But it's just a crazy thing to do at the end of your life. Yeah. To sign a pact with the devil? Yeah. Oh, no, we already knew he had done that, but. Yeah. That is kind of crazy.

It's nuts. And that picture of him with the black hat with the top hat, it's so crazy. I mean, they're a very shadowy organization, so I don't know how much power they even wield. Yeah. I get the feeling not much now, so it's even weirder. The Freemasons seem like an organization

that somebody like Sean McCarthy would be spurring and spiraling about. I mean, they've been powerful. They've wielded a lot of power. Some people think they've infiltrated the Catholic Church and they've wanted to destroy the Catholic Church for a long time because they're their main kind of rivals. And so for a Catholic president to go and-

I'm like not convinced. I feel like the Catholic Church does a lot of self-destruction, doesn't really need help. That's because the Freemasons infiltrated and the Jews. That's why. But when I look at these like high appointed, like top tier religious figures, I'm just like, oh, you guys are more corrupt than politicians.

There's like an HBO series about you, like every single priest, Reverend, deacon, whatever. Well, Vance made this point on his TV interview with some broad where she asked him about the immigration policy as a Catholic because the Pope, the woke Pope said that you can't send him back. Yeah. And he said, let me see it. I have the quote here. Nick Fuentes talks about this. He does. He sure does. I

was drunk last night looking at his Catholic streams. Yeah. Well, he was making the point that, um, yes, the Catholic church is interested in, interested in increasing its numbers and therefore its supremacy in the world, but that is not mutually exclusive of having a white ethnostate. I wasn't really following. I had a pounding headache. It's not so much about having the white ethnostate. Well, Vann said the US conference of Catholic bishops needs to look in the mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive more than 100 million

to resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they worried about their bottom line? Yep. Yeah. Which was very, very, very smart of him to like not, you know, it's not about Rome. It's those like, you know, jurisdictions within a massive hierarchy. And yeah, when they say stuff like that, it's, you know.

Yeah, there is like an innate conflict between the Catholic Church and the US of A there has to be. Right. Because they're loyal to Rome. Well they're loyal to themselves. They want to increase their numbers, increase their power. While they're losing to the evangelicals, to the Pentecostals, that's like the big, you know, the Prots are making a lot of progress in the subcontinent. That was what? In like Africa and stuff? Oh, the dark continent? Yeah.

Yeah. But anyway, well said by Vance. Yeah, unfortunately Biden is, I've parroted, I looked this up in my research today because I've often parroted the fact that Madonna was the last person to be excommunicated by the Catholic Church, which is not true. Oh, and it turns out it's like her, she said in interviews that she's been excommunicated.

Three times. Which isn't even possible. Yeah, this is her like bullshit, so love narrativization. But she like, they spoke out against like, Papa don't preach and her, you know, and JP to encourage people to boycott her concert. They've spoken out against her. Like Andres Serrano, piss Christ antics.

Yeah, but she's never been formally the Catholic Church. The last like 15 people who have been excommunicated, it's been very like judicial, like, you know, I think the last one like schismed in some way and refused to acknowledge the authority of blah, blah, it's very, yeah. But Don isn't one of them. And I don't know if Biden will be formally excommunicated in any way, but spiritually,

he's no longer part of the mystical body, which is crazy. If I was a lifelong Catholic, who was as bad as Joe Biden, I'd end of my life, you know, I'd be like, I'd be going confession daily, I'd be getting, I'd be going confession daily. Okay, did he actually become a Freemason or is this like also like a meme? No, I think he did.

Okay. Maybe not like of the 30th third order, like Harry Truman who dropped the bomb on Nagasaki, but there have been presidents who've been Freemasons before. Yeah. But he, like, I don't know in what capacity, but you're not allowed, it's heretical, which automatically excruciates you. You know?

It's not like having sex or an abortion where you've committed a sin you know it's like it's a grave like you've separated yourself from yeah the church yeah big mistake maybe he's going to confession maybe you didn't mean it I don't know I can't anyway, it doesn't matter. Melania is our second Catherers lady after Jackie O. Oh yeah. Should we talk about her fits? Yeah, sure.

The Carmen San Diego fit. The ribbon fit. Yeah. The rag and bone puffer with the skinny jeans and aviator glasses. And then the black hat at the Palisades press conference where she sat silently. I think Amanda Fortini had a good take where she said she's, I think this was her. She said that she's like veiling herself because she's been so mistreated by the media that she's like kind of doing

this like mob boss, like, I don't give you access. You can't, you're not gonna, you know, she's hiding a bit, but she is valid. She's justified because of how badly she was treated before. And they tried to kill her husband. And she's... I didn't love the Cormons. You didn't love what? I didn't love the hat.

Yeah. That's not my fave either. The Hamburglar. Yeah. It's giving my fave either. The Hamburglar. Yeah, it's giving Paddington. Yeah, but it was a powerful statement. Yeah, I saw some people being like, skinny jeans are back. And I was like, what do you think? That's not her job.

Just to dictate trends. And that's a horrible outfit. It was, yeah. It really grinded my gears. It was not my favorite. I know. Bring back the I don't care. I want to see Melania only wear like Moncler. Like rag and bone is a little

To doubt mark it for her. Yeah, it was a rag and bone puffer. Come on She's a populace. Just like me. Yeah, she's wearing dough in yeah, I guess she did wear Zara That was the I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. She just like us real she mixes high and low When they go low we mix high and low you know obviously I'm a huge fan of hers and I think she's when we saw her at the MSG rally I thought she had like a ethereal, like she was like flow, the way she walked was like she was, you know, beautiful. Yeah, I mean, okay, like Melania looks amazing all the time because she's a literal supermodel and she's like six foot tall

and has like beautiful flowing golden locks. Nice ombre. She's like beautiful bronze. I can acknowledge that she looks great in her fits, but I can't relate to her style at all. No. She, and they were doing the 2016, she wore the kind of like baby blue Jackie O fit.

Yeah. And I think it's cool that she's, fit. Yeah. And I think it's cool that she's, you know, doing her own kind of hard edged thing. I'm looking forward to her Christmas decorations. She was criticized for. But yeah, but she has a lot of like, frustrations with media scrutiny. So it makes sense that she is. I'm sure. Or maybe she just doesn't care. There's this I don't care, do you? There's this whole like lore on social media about how she's like a Slavic ice queen. And I don't think she's like bitchy and inaccessible. But I don't think that that's the case at all.

I think that like a lot of first of all, she's not Slavic. I have to be an annoying pedantic clarifier. She's from a Slavic country, but she's a gotch here. She's Germanic. I hate to hear that. And it's true. I think that's her like main ethnic background. Maybe she has some Slavic admixture, but yes, she's okay. Let's, let's set that all aside and say that she's like an honorary Slav because she hails from a Slavic nation. And she was clearly raised in a Slavic Soviet culture. Yeah, just like Slavoj Zizek. Yes. But she's, she's obviously a somewhat shy and diffident person which reads to effusive and extroverted Americans as bitchy and aloof. Right. I agree. I wouldn't read into it too much.

Well I don't think it's like a posture she adopts for the media necessarily. I think that that's her like innate character and it's funny because she's been billed historically as like a whore, a call girl, an escort or whatever and maybe she even did that at some point as a profession and I wouldn't hold it against her but like like many women from that part of the world such such as Martha Stewart, she is basically kind of awkward and rigid. Yeah, but I think in 2016 she was like kind of playing the, I do think she is aware of her presentation. She has to be. Maybe now, but. And she was trying in 2016 she was like, I think trying, I think you're right. She is like naturally introverted and discreet.

Yeah. And in 2016, she was like trying to kind of play the part and, you know, and she got ripped apart and called a whore and ice queen and all this like ruse of all that stuff. Yeah. And so now she's just playing, she's holding her cards like close to the chest. She's not gonna let them get like a shot of her with her eyes exposed, which I think is cool.

Yeah. It's kind of Kanye. To like obscure your appearance in a non-confrontational way. Like she's not gonna wear the I don't care do you park again. That was a different era where she like had the innocence in good faith to wear something she got at Zara and then get ripped apart for it.

And so now she is gonna be a little more meticulous but she's gonna be a little more unavailable which is her right. Yeah, and when people are like, oh, she looks mean and difficult, she's just unemotive and poker-faced. Which is like a defensive posture that she has, because she doesn't wanna, you know.

And there are moments that you can catch in the media of her being like relaxed and smiley. Yeah, the young videos of Baron and her, she's adorable. I saw she ever playing with a puppy. She's obviously like a totally different person in private. Of course, yeah. And there are some people who are like, what you see is what you get.

And those people are usually American. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm excited for her to be back in the White House. Ivanka wore that like Audrey Hepburn gown. excited for her to be back in the White House. Ivanka wore that Audrey Hepburn gown, like a recreation of it. Yeah, oh, well, I wanted to talk about Lauren Sanchez because people were really trashing her

for dressing like a slut at inauguration because she had the white blazer with the bustier underneath and sock was like. The exposed bra bra like a Gla-dinger bra. I did not find that to be a unreasonable amount of cleavage. It was pretty tame for Lauren Sanchez. She clearly doesn't care. Yeah. And I read the

A Friend of the Paudnomi Fry's in The New Yorker where I learned about the hem length index. Okay. That apparently when the economy is doing well women's skirts get shorter. Huh. And when the economy's not well, women's skirts get shorter. And when the economy's not doing so, they get longer. Interesting. And that's a way of like, I read some article in Forbes, it's like one of the markers of like a recession.

But she was making kind of a flimsy case, the tits are back, it was a little, you know, it was a little all over the place, but I did learn something which was nice. Hard men create big tits. But I just think, you know, you're gonna have these tech guys. Hard men create hard tits.

Yeah. You know, you're gonna have Bezos, he's gonna bring Lauren Sanchez and she's going to dress like a whore. What do you want? I don't know why. Put a blazer on.

Yes, exactly. She hit her shoulders. She looked like she was at a trad girl e-summit. I feel weirdly protective over Lauren Sanchez, even though she doesn't need to be defended. She has auntie energy. I don't even know it just like all the people who are accusing her of being tasteless and vulgar are tasteless and vulgar themselves,

just not in an aesthetic way and like an intellectual or spiritual way. And like everybody was like ragging on her and at the same time, every single female Trump relative, ragging on her and at the same time every single female Trump relative, Ivanka Tiffany Kai, did an elaborate photo shoot to honor Donald's inauguration, which like if you know it's like kind of harmless female vanity, but if you zoom out it's like kind of bizarre and absurd to stage a photo shoot for yourself because you know you you're gonna be photographed anyway with your family. Like that to me is just as vulgar as wearing

like a white blazer with like a white bustier beneath. Am I crazy? Like it's bizarre, like Ivanka, I mean I love Ivanka, I fuck with Ivanka, and she's a beautiful woman, blah, blah, blah, but like she had that like photo shoot in the Audrey Hepburn dress on like the bare staircase which is weird. I'm pulling up the Tiffany Trump one. Yeah.

It's awesome. Yeah. She's pregnant and she's I was like these are glittering images. She looks so psycho. But yeah no but how is that not as vulgar and tasteless as what Lauren Sanchez did? Of course. I agree. I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm personally not offended by any of it.

It's all fine. It's all within the realm of like normal female activity, but like, why does Lauren Sanchez get hit hardest? A friend of mine put it really well that like what people really secretly object to is this kind of like aesthetic brownification of beauty standards. Like there was that Instagram post from Keith McNally back in the day, I'm going to get my restaurant privileges rescinded before I even got them, where he was calling her

ugly and repulsive and he like assembled a carousel of her with the Kardashian ladies. And I think like, yeah, people would never Trump, Ivanka. No, Lauren Sanchez. Oh, and like nobody would ever admit to this because we all see ourselves as like tolerant anti racist people. But what they're really objecting to is this black slash Latina aesthetic. Yeah. That's become more of a norm. Right. It's like loud, colorful in your face, like big tits, big ass, big lips, tan skin, lots of bronzer, like 10 pounds of makeup

versus like the Carolyn Bissette, Jackie O. Sure. Tasteful political lady look. Wow, she's 55 years old. And she's like a journalist, a businesswoman, she's a licensed pilot, she's not just some random bimbo. I don't really care about Lauren Sanchez and Jeff Bezos,

but like they clearly seem to love each other and make each other happy She's dyslexic. Yeah And they had an extramarital affair, yeah, I didn't realize yeah, well she seems like an amazing woman I mean Def I first like you know, she's literally fine and harmless. Like if she was donating to libtard causes like, um, Mackenzie Bezos, maybe she'd be fair game. Nobody complains about that woman. Right. In the spirit of being charitable, I will say that they both have beautiful hair. Well, we weave extension. What does that even mean?

You know, I'm just saying I feel like the arbitrary bizarre hate for Lauren Sanchez is a little bit overblown. I agree. I don't feel any ill will towards her. I think she's like kind of, she's not my taste. Same. She's not a picnic at hanging rock. Elegant waif, but I'm not expecting to see that in Washington, DC.

When we were like trekking, attempting to get to the back of the line, it's DC, the women dress like prostitutes. I know. They dress like straight up whores. Is it crazy? I feel like if there was like a, I mean, at the Young Republicans gala, there wasn't like, you know, you had some body con stuff happening,

but it was in DC. I'm like, wow, like, are you like a whore? I know, I know. Like, what is your, why are you trying to go to this ball so much? And you're just like a whore. And like all these like, so Sanchez is fitting right in.

This is like no shade, but all the right wing influencer wives look just as slutty as Lauren Sanchez, let's be real. Which influencer wives? I not going to name names. You mean the wives of right wing? Yeah. Yeah. Or like some of the girls themselves. Sure. They have a very like in your face, aggressive party aesthetic. Wait, what is her deal? She was a Jan Sixer. Oh. She was like a hot babe.

She's like a blonde. She's a dumb bitch. But yeah, she was awaiting sentencing or something. There was like a big spread. The New York Post really is something. When I prep for the, I like to save up a stack of New York Posts. And then I, when I prepped for the pod,

I like leap through them. And I'm like, oh yeah. Black school shooter, Graper, was apparently in the same. In touch with Samantha Rapunzel. They're in the same like discord chat or something. Yeah Same type of weird different Kind of shooter. Mm-hmm He only killed one person I think okay, so I think it was a kind of targeted

And he was a black Nazi But Really came and went with so much going on in the press cycle. Oh, Elon's. Oh, yeah. He did a Nazi salute, kind of. Yeah. He did a Roman salute. Yeah.

Really? It's... he did his own secret third thing. I think he knew what he was doing, but also think he couldn't control himself. Is he a Nazi? Is he autistic? It's both. And he's not a Nazi in any meaningful way, but he is, was doing like, he did, he knew what he was doing. Yeah. And I think I, well, he's like all geniuses, he's retarded. Yeah.

And I don't know if he could anticipate how bad the optics would be. Oh, I think he I'm just shocked that he would do something so retarded. I think. Like I'm not personally offended by it because I didn't see anything wrong with it. It was just like a stupid, spurgy, provocative, trolly gesture. Who cares? But he played into the hands of all the worst people. But in a Machiavellian way, you know, he drove sort of discourse on a media platform that he owns, arm that he owns, you know, but he knew and he was, it was sort of, he had like the plausible deniability of my heart goes out to you.

Yeah. But we all know, you know, that he had his arm outstretched, which are not like, there's a photo of me that gets circulated sometimes. I know there's like the SS flag, blah, blah. Yeah. Which is also totally fine. Yeah. But there's one where I just have my arm outstretched. Yeah.

And I actually wasn't, I was like 18 and really wasn't even doing kind of a Hitler thing. I was kind of just like doing like a skinny arm thing. But it looks, the thing about a Hitler salute is, you know, still photograph. I'm outstretching my arm now. You can't... She's doing the Nazi thing.

Well, you can't tell. Like, I could have done it from my forehead. I could have done... It's this very specific gesture, and like a photograph is not an adequate condemnation of something as being a Nazi salute. Though what Elon did was very, very similar to a Nazi salute. Well, and it was also caught in video.

Yeah, so you had the whole, the whole breadth of motion. But he did hit his chest first. Yeah, which is not a Nazi. I'm not even like defending, be like, who is you defending him? I'm not defending him. I'm just even like defending people who's you depending on I'm not defending him. I'm just Just saying The stigma of outstretching your arm

Emphatically with a lot of enthusiasm and rigor is you know, I think we're past it You know Trump's not doing it. Trump didn't do it. He didn't do the Nazi salute. Trump's not doing a Nazi salute. Okay. Okay. And Elon's a spurg. Oh, here.

I'm trying to open another beer. And Elon's a spurg. Oh, here. I'm trying to open another beer. I just think that it's stupid to get offended about something like that in this day and age, because there's no such thing as real Nazis. And the tiny minority, like the minuscule percentage of people in the world who still identify as Nazis is so powerless and so reviled, nobody takes them seriously. You cannot be a Nazi or a fascist in this day and age.

Like sure you can. You can be a fascist, but a Nazi? You cannot be a Nazi or a fascist in any serious, politically consequential way in 2025. Yeah, a Nazi for sure. Fascism is a kind of an umbrella term that you can be grouped in with, but Nazism. Yeah. Like you think Elon Musk is a, you think he's part of the third, the third, right? He's a, he likes the, he adheres to the tenets of Nazism. Like that's just not true.

This is like so puerile and trivial and I cannot believe it still bears repeating and maybe it does not even, but like Nazi and or fascist in this day and age just means person I disagree with politically. That's literally the only meaningful definition. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think, didn't Netanyahu say that the Elon gesture was not a Nazi. But then people love to call, you know, they call Israel Nazis. Yeah. They

call me a Nazi. I, I'm from Belarus. It's like, why would I be a Nazi? That's crazy. It just like doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's like a historical and like not meaningful. But yeah, we shouldn't be like, I guess, throwing up Romans. Yeah. If we want to beat the like. He got he got caught up. He was over excited. Yeah. He got out. He clearly did. Yeah. And he didn't seem to face any consequences for it. Unlike Vivek who got totally excommunicated for that one really annoying and gay boy meets world posts. I know.

I don't know how he's gonna come back from that. He's like running for governor of Ohio. Oh really? Yeah. JD Vance is the VP. Yeah. Oh, well good luck I guess. I mean.

I feel bad for Vivek. It's so sad how nobody likes him. I know. And I want him to, you know, I love to see a man redeemed. So I'd like, you know, but I just don't see what happening for him. He's like Andrew Yang, you know, or it was like,

we're not gonna let this Chinese guy have the computer country or whatever he wants. He's an unusual person, much like Yang, because he's not exactly cursed or unlucky because he's made it this far and he's basically a household name now, but he is definitely not blessed. Not blessed in his favor, no.

And yeah, like I said, being an American is not about how much homework you did. It's about how much homework you didn't do. It's about how much homework you didn't do. It's just about the kind of spirit, you know? Glory glory hallelujah. The truth is marching on. The truth is social. Oh, Fauci security detail.

Oh yeah, that was funny. He can afford private security. Yeah, still kind of because Brandon pardoned Fauci. Okay. Before leaving office as well as his whole family, which is hilarious because I'm very naive and retarded, so I assume pardons are handed down for crimes that have already been committed, but apparently not. I would have thought the same thing.

They're also handed down for any future presumptive crimes. Or anything you maybe did. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, you can just that's interesting. Yeah, we got to get back down to Washington And try to ingratiate ourselves, mm-hmm not I haven't done I don't need a pardon But that's like yeah, so power gets you those come immunity. Yeah, and now Fauci like what did he do? What do he do?

What did he do? Cause the pardon was really like, and thank you for your service and I'll pardoning you. It's like, well, what are you pardoning him from? And I'm like, and yeah, they're saying it's like, because Trump's gonna be draconian, and it's like, but. Yeah, but that's another one. Come on now. Those those classic libtard moves

where they love to preemptively smear their enemies by accusing them of stuff that they're planning on doing where they're like, oh, Trump is gonna strike down upon his political opponents. Wait, I have to pee, I'll be right back. I mean, this, I was just in the bathroom thinking about Trump rescinding Fauci's security detail. And of course, in the mind of his like liberal critics,

this is like a weird dog whistle attempt to get people to seek retribution against him, like guerrilla style. But in reality, it's probably just like a cost cutting measure because these security details must cost a lot of money. Of course, well, it's just both. No, I don't even think it is.

But Luigi's locked up. He's not, like Trump is not sicking schizo right-wing activists on Fauci. No, he's not saying it's legal to- He's not like it's open season on Dr. Fauci. Right, and like I said, like Dr. Fauci's become incredibly rich through all of his nefarious business dealings, so he is able to afford a bodyguard

and he doesn't need the tax payers whose lives he destroyed. He kept from seeing their family members in their last moments. To pay for his like vanity celebrity security detail that makes him feel like Brad Pitt when he waltzes into a fancy restaurant he's gonna have a bodyguard of course he knows everyone hates him and he deserves it and he it's the least he can do also nothing's gonna happen to him be careful Anna you've placed Armenian curse.

No, I'm actually not. I'm a man of principle. So I never liked it even when these vigilante groups would round up some poor 95 year old Nazi in Argentina or Chile and like try to get him assassinated or like haul him before a court or whatever. I think if you've made it that far, you can just like, yeah, your life's already.

Be left to your own devices. You have to live with that. Yeah, and so like, I don't know, I'm not advocating for any like, civilian violence against Anthony Fauci. No. Even though I deeply hate and resent what he did to us. any like, civilian violence against Anthony Fauci, even though that wouldn't be and resent what he did to us. It wouldn't be just and I would have loved to see some justice,

but it's all it's okay. It's not that important to me. Not as important. I think what would be really satisfying is if I get my back's done. I get this backaxx undone. If I can get this Vaxx taken out of my body. If Mr. Donald Trump can make an anti-vax, I could say. No, I think the Vaxx ultimately is whatever. I think that there should be like a fair and impartial Nuremberg style process. There won't be for Fauci. But there won't be. There won't be. a fair and impartial Nuremberg style process

for COVID criminals, but there won't be. There won't be, there won't be for Fauci, maybe some lower rung people. I heard Peter Daszak, I doubt it. Who knows, it's okay. It's not, I'm not, I don't want vengeance. I really don't. I'm like on board with, you know, rectifying.

Like when Bannon was talking about how Zuckerberg is like falling in line, but he's not really one of us. And like, for me, I'm like, I don't care if they weren't based before, if they are gonna just fall in line and be based now, then that's, I don't care. You know, I just want like, you know, I'm, yeah. I wanna be forgiven for my transgressions

and I wanna forgive my enemies for their transgressions against me. And I really want the construction to stop outside my house. But that's something I have no power over. There's no one I can vote for to make that stop. But maybe I'll go, maybe I'll become a lobbyist and use circuitous means, the sabotage, this whole operation.

But realistically, I won't because it's waking me up too early and derailing my day. It's sapping you of your faculties. It's making you weaker and more retarded. Zog is winning. They're waging a war against me by the Jewish developers building right next to mine and they're winning. But it's nice.

I was like relatively happy with the moral victory of Trump winning, but it turns out the second time around, he's actually trying to get some shit done too. Well, it's, yeah. And it's, I don't want to glow. No. But. We'll let the right wing and ons do that for us.

It's unbecoming, but it is really nice. I think him winning now after losing the previous is very nice. The Grover Cleveland maneuver is, I mean, it's so much more satisfying and things have really reached such a pitch of exhaustion morally amongst the population. The fact that Elon doing a Nazi salute isn't like three, four years ago. Yeah. That would have been like grounds for total cancellation.

Yeah, it would have just been like something that was like an unstoppable force of like, yeah, no one cares. Now everyone's kind of like, whatever, shut up. Yeah, it's like mildly annoying and tedious that there are like these kind of like Jewish intellectual activist types in the media who are like, he did a Nazi's, oh my God, we're going back to the third world.

Are you Syria? Yeah. Yeah. It's everyone kind of can't. It's nice that the libs have exhausted their welcome. It is, but also there is a certain kind of depression or melancholy that sets in. It doesn't totally counteract the vibe

of positive uplift from winning so much. But then you remember just like how many years we've all like toiled under Democrat enforced reality and how people just simply let it happen, all of us. Well, it's been good for us in a lot of ways. Yeah. You know, the Me Too movement was our bread and butter for some time. And, you know, it was like liberal feminism being this kind of like flash

point. Yeah, was good for us. And it all is what it is. Like, it wouldn't be as good if Trump had been president then. Yeah. And now we have, you know, I'm, yeah. I'm mostly, yeah, I'm pleased. I'm like, yeah, I'm a little like tired of winning. Yeah. Already. I'm a little like, wow, more good news. Okay, I don't know.

Yeah. But I'm excited to like, I do think it will be a like post political era. Potentially one hopes this is what they said would happen with when Biden won that we would return to normal and people would stop caring. But no, now for real, because now the liberals are too exalt, like they, um, they don't have the, um, stamina or the like popular support for someone to be like, Oh, he did a Nazi salute and like all these people up and arms, blah, blah, you know? Yeah, but it's still it's still shocking that people are still doing the

whole purely aesthetic disagreement with Trump. Like I was up late last night reading a sub stack article by this lady, Kathy Young, who I've never heard of before. A lot of people I know really hate her because she's like a neocon and she was feuding with Chris Ruffo and he said some very ugly and unflattering things about her. He called her a repulsive person inside and out, which I didn't. She's not the most attractive lady, but she's also like not the youngest lady

and that's not really her shtick. Right. She's a Soviet immigrant. She's a Russian Jewish lady. Kathy Young? Who goes by Kathy Young. And I was reading this article that she penned where she was talking about how Trump's executive orders concerning DEI are in one sense welcome because there's clearly a problem with Dei but we should. Is this her? That's her yeah. She's an Aquarius.

She's fine. She's like a little old lady, whatever. I don't care if she's like not hot. But yes, in the. She's not that bad looking also. She's fine. She's 61 years old. Yeah.

But the gist of her article, because I was trying to figure out if she had an argument, she kept firing back at Rufo and being like, well, you didn't read the article, you're just rage baiting, you should engage with my arguments. And I was trying to figure out what her argument was. And it really boils down to like, yes, there's a problem with DI and yes, it's good that it's being challenged

but I take umbrage with the fact that a guy who I personally don't like happens to be the one doing something about it. She's a boomer. She's like, oh, her two books, Growing Up in Moscow Memoirs of a Soviet Girlhood, which she published in 89, and then Ceasefire, Why Women and Men Must Join Forces, To Shape True Equality, 1999. It's very quaint, actually.

I enjoy the motifs that she's working with. I mean, she's like an anti-feminist, I guess. She's like a centrist who ostensibly is critical of both the left and the right. And like all centrists, what that really amounts to is that she does not entertain the right at all. And inevitably falls in line with the left as much as she objects to them like aesthetically rhetorically she's just a

boomer yeah she shouldn't be a tag letter you know I think I with the doge, the government efficiency, the gutting of the bureaucratic bloat, I mean, Kathy Young will be fine. But there are inevitably the rugby people who lose their jobs that were probably useless. Yeah, it's fine. I'm okay with it. But what are they going to do?

They'll find something to do. Really? Yeah, it's like whatever they had like you have to think about it. It's like when people cry about illegal immigrants again, like in theory, not even in theory, but like realistic. I'm just, I'm sympathetic to anyone whose fortunes are like go downhill who are like suddenly maligned, find themselves like on the wrong side of history. I don't like to see anyone suffer or be immiserated.

But like, as Donald Trump pointed out, every single illegal immigrant is a criminal because they're here illegally. Which sounds harsh, but it's true. And it's like every single person occupying one of these superfluous government jobs is taking money resources from taxpayers and funneling them into some useless, meaningless, destructive bottom line. I know, but it's not as if like they'll see, you know, I mean, it remains to be seen, but you know. Like what are you supposed to do? Just like keep those people in their jobs? and remains to be seen, but you know. Like what are you supposed to do, just like keep those people in their jobs forever, eternally?

Yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying there's like ripple effects and stuff. And like, you know, there'll be like, and with AI, this is the real, I think it's very, I really appreciate Steve Bannon for this reason is because he is a kind of like, contrarian voice to, like I don't want like a tech oligarchy.

I don't wanna like maximize efficiency in every avenue of American life. I don't want to like maximize efficiency in every avenue of American life. I don't want the people with the highest test scores who are the best at coding who are willing to code the longest to be the most prosperous people. Like I want America to be great again. And I well it's like Sam Hyde like, why are we even trying to compete with China? Why is that the premise of the argument? Why do we accept that premise? I know I loved when he was like, maybe we should blockade all of the Indian immigrants.

Well, China is a threat. Yeah, but is it? Yeah. Like, why do you accept that premise? Because of their, like, human capital, their technological advancements, their erosion of American morale and minds through things like TikTok. But we shouldn't be competing with them according to their own standards. What do you mean?

Which is like building a quote meritocracy where everybody does their homework. No, but we need to do something about TikTok. We need to do something about trade. But if we do something about trade. But if we do something about TikTok, we have to do something about every social media platform because they're all... Well, they're not all Chinese owned.

Sure. They're designed to make you stupid and crazy. Well, no, they're all designed to make you stupid and crazy, but not all of them are Chinese owned. Yes. That's correct. But some benefit China. Yes. Specifically, you can get a paycheck. You get $86.

Yeah, I guess when they make the argument that like banning TikTok is like against freedom of speech, it's like, well, freedom of speech only applies to American citizens. Well, there are they are American citizens. But that's Yeah, that's the kind of like, a line of argumentation is that like, TikTok is this free space where people can be pro Palestine, blah, blah. But actually, space where people can be pro Palestine and blah, blah. But actually, TikTok is owned by Chinese people and it feeds your worst. There's impulses. It manipulates your psychology. It is like, I mean, I like to know anything about TikTok. I've never been on it, but I guess the idea is also, they're essentially collecting, harvesting the data

of US citizens for their own intelligence purposes, which is the real issue. That's a huge issue. That's a geopolitical, not a freedom of speech issue. That's a big issue, but also just like the like, dumbing down of America, like, you know, think about how many people are like,

trying to be influencers on TikTok, how much of their life and time is spent on this app. But that problem is going to persist even if like an American firm were to acquire TikTok. Well, that would be preferable. It would be. Yes. Like game theory. Yes, it would be preferable. And like ideal scenario.

You know, we have some. But even if we are in a tech oligarchy, they have the noblesse oblige, you know, to like dampen the algorithm to make it less, you know, addictive or toxic or mind eroding. eroding. Like, but do they? I don't think they do. I think that they only respond to incentives to like checks and balances handed down to them by Trump because he like bullied them into. Right. Bowing down, which is good. But he can't do that with a child.

Well, yeah, with the Chinese algorithms. Which, yeah, you know? And a lot of people, like my personal trainer gets a lot of information from TikTok. That's like very wrong. And it's very easy for... Okay, so China owns a very popular social media platform, and they are able to manipulate the information that people get

when they use this platform. And then that information can be manipulated to like so like discord and schism amongst people and to make it you know it's not it's all like huge it's honestly Dean Kisick is really right when he talks about how like there's just too much information it's just like oversaturated yeah and and it leads to moral fatigue. Yeah. And like, disenjoyment. Well, yeah, there is literally too much information, which is why everybody is like, numb and desensitized. Yeah. That's why I'm annoyed when people complain about porn

specifically, because everything is essentially playing the function of porn. Totally going on tech talk is just like gooning. You're just watching the loops of... When I watch girls taking their sock curls out and then like autistically watching the spiral of hair over and over and over and over. of hair like over and over and over and over. Yeah, in this paradigm porn seems relatively like innocent and provincial. At least you're not watching it for that long.

Yeah, and it serves a specific function. Yeah, this is just like a black hole. Chinese nihilism. And that's also like the real age gap because people of our generation older just get left behind because we can't process that excessive information and just shut down and self-eject. Well, I can't like make a TikTok. Yeah. Like you, how would you even, yeah.

Maddie can do it. Yep. But I- She's a true acquirer, I guess. I can watch, I engage with TikTok and Instagram Reels, which are kind of the same thing. Yeah. A little more like American consumer catered Instagram reels is like trying to compete with TikTok now

and Instagram in general, right? Like they changed the format recently so that like your main display looks like reels. And the photos are no longer square. They're rectangular. I know I hate to resemble the TikTok mode. And the photos are no longer square, they're rectangular. I know I hate that. To resemble the TikTok mode.

I know I hate that. Me too. But we're gonna get used to it because that's what humans do. I know, but we're not really even using Instagram that much. No. But my point was, right, that Bannon is kind of spot on and like, keeping like techies, you know, in his perifts. That we don't want like, MAGA is not about being beholden to the interests of big tech.

That's true. Yeah. I mean, his whole point that it's a essential like existential conflict between the MAGA right and the tech, right is correct. But in that way, he's like a dinosaur and we're all dinosaurs because how do you stem the flow? I mean, I was, this is a question I'll pose to him when we do war. I got to meet Grimes. Yeah. And I was really excited about, but I was so drunk and fucked up.

I was kind of like combative and weird, but I feel like I botched it because I was ranting and raving about how I don't want to live in a 3D printed house. And how tech is evil. I was on like Steve Bannon, barber jacket tip. And she was sort of like, well, the early internet used to be cool and aesthetic. And I was like, it's not anymore.

It's all bad. And they wanna make me live in a pod and eat the bugs and I won't and stuff. But I think that I hope naively maybe that there's enough of like a real conservatism in the true sense of like, conserving what is like meaningful and special and like historical.

And not just like giving way into like a version of China where we all like live in, you know, the most efficient and like, you know, bulb pot or whatever. I, that's why I'm so heartened by the lifting of the bulb band. Yeah, that's nice. It's like, Americanism isn't just about, it's about a kind of humanness.

Yeah, and you can kind of incrementally dial back the worst excesses by like reviving incandescent bulbs and encouraging people to have families, encouraging people to get married, promoting religion, all this sort of thing. But like the real big existential question is, is any of this possible as a mass revival? And I don't think so. Which? Like any of these like positive pro-family.

Why no? Pro-nation forces. Why? Well, because in order to have those things, you really have to believe. I think there's a way, you know, the neoclassical mandate promoting beautiful federal civic architecture

was one of the executive orders that said federal public buildings should be visually identifiable civic buildings and respect regional, traditional and classical architectural heritage in order to uplift and beautify public spaces and ennoble the United States in our system of self-government. Yeah.

Like that's not, you know, they're not building tons of new government buildings, but just even something like that, that's like pro beauty. Yeah. Once again, I'm adamant for beauty. But that's an economic problem because. What? Like the revival of the neoclassical tradition. Like neoclassical buildings don't only look a certain way,

they're built from certain materials. The plans are made in a certain way that is probably no longer economically viable. I disagree, that's not true. You have to subsidize the existence of such buildings. Because it's much cheaper and easier to throw up like some shed, like a brutalist glass shed. That's like even like a cheap facsimile

of like postmodern architectural styles. But that's not the order. That's not the mandate. It's a neoclassical mandate. And once we're not giving the felons the trans surgeries that's all nice money for nice building materials. Yeah but these things all I feel like have to be heavily subsidized by the federal government in order to function. Well they should be. Yeah they should should be, but that's.

I'd rather my tax dollars go to having beautiful architecture. No, of course, but that's like economically inefficient, uncompetitive. Well, because it's much more costly and time consuming to create those kind of buildings, to hire people who can build them. But once we drain the swamp.

I know, but this. It's just about a reallocation of resources to Americans who can build beautiful things instead of like bottom surgery for some felons. I know, I know. Well that when I was sparking about factory farming, of course like something like the reform of factory farming cannot happen immediately because we are in the midst

of an inflationary period where consumer costs, the cost of food, the cost of living is out of control. And if you start reforming factory farming now, the cost of food is going to go all the way up. So yeah, that's like, I mean, it's a pipe dream. Yeah, it is. It's like totally idealistic and retarded. But it doesn't even have to be perfect. It can be, we don't need like, you know, it doesn't, we just, I don't want the pigs in a fucking cage where they shit on their babies and fucking feel stressed out and crazy and scared and stuff.

And you know, there's a middle ground, I think, as a policy wonk, as a famous. Factory farming has to get way worse before it could get better. Oh, God, no. I don't think it can get worse. It's already as bad as it can be. But like, yeah, like Trump's at a McDonald's head,

you know, McDonald's being more expensive. Yeah, I don't think this is like at the top of his agenda. I was just trying to manifest it and see what happened. I did not foresee people getting mad at you about that. Fucking Noah Cohen. What is this problem? I don't know. I have nothing to say about that guy. He has like fixation on owning me by getting at me

through mentioning my kid. It's horrible. It's like next level creepy. People were like, oh, well, you're just trying to point out that you're stupid. It's like, there's like thousands of ways you can say, I'm stupid without bringing my kid into it. Come on, that's not what's going on.

But whatever, I don't care about that guy. He's like- I know, it doesn't matter. I mean, we were friends. You and Noah called me. Well, he was a friend of Adam Friedman's. Oh. And yeah, so I was like,

hanging out with him and like his girlfriend at the time, like, you know, we spent time together. He came up to me, he told me who Marianne Williamson was. Oh, interesting. He was like, you guys should really talk about Marianne Williamson. She's kind of a Red Scare Canada, like years ago. And I was like, oh, huh. Like, yeah, we had like a friendly, you know, whatever we were like, friendly, we know we

were close. But like to see the way he like a friendly, you know, whatever, we were like, we were close, but like to see the way he is lashing out, I'm like, for fucking what? Yeah, I don't know. You get out of this, and what do you want? Like, you want factory farming? What are you saying? Yeah, I don't think that he's a fan of factory farming.

There's no way. Oh, how could you be? Yeah, I think he's just like mad at me for some weird indecipherable reason because I'm like a traitor to the laughter or whatever. He's always been angry at me for years now. I know he's so bad. He's me as well. He's but I'm like, He gave me his wallies, but I'm like... But I feel bad because it's like, okay, if I ever ran into this guy in person, I'm assuming he lives somewhere in New York City. He's like a Brooklyn boop.

Yeah. It would probably be totally fine and civil. He'd probably like avoid you and be scared. Yeah. Honestly, I'm gonna kick his ass. The baby will kick his ass. He was beat up by girls. Yeah.

A little girl that beat him up. Whatever. I wish I could have like an epic clap back against Noah Colwin, but I just think he's so desperate and creepy. I know it's nothing interesting to say about him. No, it's literally sucks.

Buckle buckle up. Because it's gonna be a long four years, eight years, 16 years, 200 years, 1000 years. Now it'll be- A thousand year Trumpian rite is upon us. I'm not like delusional. I'm open to the possibility that I've been deceived, you know, and like the deep state. I'm so, I mean, by which I mean I'm so paranoid that like, you know, I'm like the deep state actually is like tricked us all into this massive scheme to initiate some tech oligarchy that makes our lives worse and you're taking the bulbs away. But thus far I've been I'm very um I feel pretty good and um it I mean, okay, like Richard Hanani, a message me and he was like, Why are you so against Kathy Young? And I said, I'm not a barely know who she is, and just learned about

her today. And he said, like, Anna, you know, like, it's okay to talk to people on the left and criticize people on the right. And I said, Yeah, sure, Richard, like, I agree that there are many disgusting and deplorable right wing figures in the world. Yeah, I'm not like, triumphantly, unequivocally pro right. And even if you identify as a right-wing person, you should be able to criticize people on your own team. I think, I just think the binary is not so useful. I think it's important to, as a person who's generally like, I don't know, cynical is like a bad way of putting it, but as a person who just assumes things will go wrong

and be much worse, as Spurgler put it, I'm not an excitable person. He really read me with that one. I just think it's nice to try, at least to believe in something. For sure. To like fake it till you make it. Yeah.

Because what is your other option? Okay, I'm not like uncritically pro-Trump believe it or not. I just don't think that it's wise or productive to be an ankle biter like Nick Fuentes and like relentlessly complain about MAGA and its various influencers Supposedly in the spirit of pushing them to do the things that you want them to do but really because you're like disgruntled and jealous And but really because you're like disgruntled and jealous. And like, I don't know, you just like put on a nice face

and have those conversations in private. You can, what are your issues with Trump? I can't even think of one right now. Ha ha ha ha. Thus far, I really have no, I thought the Palisades press conference was handled extremely well. I thought, I think he's like, clearly working very hard. The media has way more access to him than they did to Biden or Kamala.

That is not like a endorsement of every single thing he does. I'm not like a don't blame me, I vote for Trump, bumper sticker, I like... Yeah, thus far I mean it's very early, it'll be a lot, you know, more will be revealed. The bulbs are back, so that's good enough for me. And the rest, like it's, I'm not culpable for. I voted for these people to voted for these people to initiate the pragmatic political changes that they promise that they whether they seem like they're delivering on there's going to be losses, there's going to be complications, there's going to be blah blah blah, it's going to be involved. I'm not responsible for every single thing Trump does,

everyone who suffers. It's none of that. It's not. Yeah, I am a Democrat. I participated in the democratic process and voted for the candidate that I thought would benefit the country the most, which has come to fruition and thus far has been pretty good.

Yeah, it was a pragmatic decision. Not a vibes-based one. Well, I also have been told, love Donald Trump. Yeah, the vibes were good, the vibes aligned. They dovet Trump. Yeah, the vibes were good, the vibes aligned. They dovetailed. Yeah, it was a big part of it for me. And I am, I do, I love my big orange.

We're wholly in president. I love the, I'm very happy with how things are going. That could change I could see enough, you know Sad migrant videos that will cause me to have emotional reactions. I could feel differently But thus far I really haven't and I'm feeling pretty good And like if you're a successful media pundit or influencer and you have an issue with something that is not being done, your best strategy is not to like back bite and be a doomer.

It's to steer things in the direction that you wanna see. Like Chris Ruffo, I know again, many people have issues with him. I know we like to make fun of him for hiring the porn star, blah, blah, blah, blah. But he was extremely powerful and effective in getting the message out there and rolling back the worst excesses of DEI.

Do you think he was at the ball? He was, no, I mean the real ball. Oh, probably, yeah. Not us. So don't get mad at us, because we weren't even at the ball. I wasn't even with Vince Vaughn. No.

Who wouldn't have hover handed me. He would have touched my waist. It could have been amazing. Super spreader event. It could have been amazing. Getting AIDS. You're really not. Okay, we should go.

We did it. It's been a long one. Really? I mean, besides the bathroom break. Okay. All right. Well, see you. Thanks for watching!